Nah he's a big reason but not exactly the reason they've been trying to make this movie since '07 and it's been delayed so many times that it was just basically a guaranteed way to fail Miller didn't make things any better, but this film was always doomed
I'm assuming James Gunn used Clooney because Christian Bale turned down appearing in the post credit scene (rumored), Keaton was already in the film, and Gunn doesn't want Pattinson connected to any other universe. To me, it felt like the movie was trying to say that Ezra Miller's Flash is now in George Clooney's timeline. Not in Gunn's DCU. Gunn already confirmed George Clooney isn't his Batman in the DCU and Gunn already casted his Superman. Seems like they didn't know where to put Ezra's Flash so they just stuck him in Clooney's universe. I will say the ending can definitely create miscommunication and it's the job for the writer to make it clear to the audience. Especially if you want the audience to know your about to reboot the franchise.
Being trapped in the Clooneyverse hell is the funniest thing that could’ve possibly happened to Ezra. Hoping that the next live action Flash we get is Wally.
It’s the same thing that happened with X-Men, a reboot was announced before the release, so everyone lost interest because they knew it wasn’t going anywhere
This movie was finished and in the vault and reshot because of Ezra multiple times. James Gunn did nothing to or for this movie besides promote it and he even said in subtle ways that this was before he took over. Blue beetle is the same, it’s not a James Gunn product BUT he’s much more openly supporting it and he’s actually planning to use Xolo Maridueña as Jaimie
It's two reasons 1.) Ezra Miller. Nobody understands separating art from artist 2.) Gunn pulled a dumb move by saying this movie will have no effect in the reboot
@@xguy2950 i would have had the universe reboot and when it's rebooted, it changes Barry's anatomy so he's another actor, that way we keep the same flash but he just looks different
Besides Erza Miller , James Gunn basically killed this universe. No Reverse Flash, no Cyborg, the Batman cameos were overhyped, and the store was not good at all
@@theclutchxgawd He publicly said the DCU as we know it was ending . So naturally people are gonna lose interest in seeing the movie. Why would anyone pay to go watch a movie that leads to nothing. Use your brain idiot
I think this is before the upcoming reboot but who knows. I think some other people besides James Gunn could do the Elesworld movies and have the people that James G don't want to work with to play a different version of their characters or some one else entirely. I couldn't see it because it didn't last very long in theaters. "Spider-Man across the Spiderverse" last much longer. No matter what I did love seeing the classic yellow circle bat symbol. Everyone have been putting their logo on a black on black or grey suit.
Something else. The only reason Nora survived is because of Henry being home. So her killer can’t be Reverse Flash, because what’s Henry going to do against him? But apparently according to the director, he planned on bringing in RF in the sequel to reveal he’s Nora’s murderer. Wtf?
Mentioning how this movie was a super mega flop without mentioning the HUGE elephant in the room is crazy. DC has released about 3-4 stinkers that did well. Thats not why this movie flopped.
The flash messed up the timeline so bad he not only changed batman but also his dad. Hint: they changed the actor who played his father from the Justice league movie.
And then Geoff Johns HAD to bring Barry and Hal Jordan back because he didn't want to write characters he didn't grow up with. So he stuffed Barry back into the story when we had over 20 years of Wally as the Flash including Barry in the speedforce telling West he is better and quicker than himself. But then nah, Barry because *THATS MY FLASH DAMN IT*
@@thalmoragent9344y’all dumb 😂the second flash was him 😂he created him without knowing n it was actually a dope movie n yes he did the other flash who push him out of the speed force 😂
8:09 I’m positive that we won’t be seeing George Clooney again. I believe it was an indication that we will be leaving this specific universe in the dust. It was goodbye to them in my eyes.
I liked the flash movie. It doesn’t compare to the animated movie flashpoint paradox, but it wasn’t bad at all. However, I was annoyed by the fact that reverse flash was not mentioned, as he is the one that took out his mom, but I got the vibes that they truly tried their best with this movie and it wasn’t extremely lazy like certain past super hero movies. ( that includes lazy marvel and DC movies )
DC hasn’t had decent live action movie since man of steel story wise and cgi wise other than maybe aqua man in my opinion. The animated series’ for DC continues to carry because they have a better creative direction and can do a lot more thanks to it being animated.
I might be in the rare minority, but I actually enjoyed this movie. I was never bored at all. I have a much better time watching this than I did majority of these other superhero movies we’ve gotten lately (besides gotg 3)
Same here. It was 7/10 quality for me. The reason the film bombed was literally cause of Ezra Miller. People were actively boycotting the movie because of him.
Tried to have hope in this movie but already knew with Ezra this Flash was ruined since he’s been introduced….tried of them making this awkward weird dude too. Literally have examples of the Flash characters from the animated series but they want to keep making him this nerdy weird dude who can’t get laid
Hamada fired Ray Fisher, they didnt do the flash point story They rebooted the Zack Snyderverse and used his villains this movie was made for no one this was for Snyder Fans it was for "dc fans" but yet these dc fans dont show up to see this trash
I am gonna defend this point becuse everyone seems to missunderstand it. The way things looks when Flash see through the speed force place and the last bit towars the end of the movie when we see old version of Superman and The Flash are not meant to look realistic it´s stylished but they did a horrible job at potraying that so everyone at first think that is suppose to look realistic. The only thing suppose to look realistic but did´t was the babies and the dog and they looked bad like the CGI dog did not look like the same dog later.
Why is Zod the main villain flash has his own villains maybe like Godspeed or a reverse flash or I think a gorilla grodd we are we using a Superman villain
Not TBH making the undercooked microwave joke as soon as the babies start getting put in the microwave😂😂😂. He had me right there 🥲. I went into this movie expecting nothing crazy but was hurt to watch most of the movie. Loved Batman and Supergirl.... But..... It wasn't enough. Also good point about having most of the movie in the trailer because that was definitely the case.
@@theclutchxgawd nothing is stopping anyone from enjoying movies. That doesn't take away from the fact that big named / budget movies have been in fact FAILING at the box office for years now.
Even comparing old movies that flopped financially are nothing compared to today. Just look at the old green lantern movies and adjust it for Inflation. Its honestly hilarious at this point.
I get what the movies ending is trying to do, alot of timeline changing films do it but did we really need DC doing the same thing after marvel just did it lmao
To be honest the only way the flash would a get better if the cgi wasn't bad and if grant gustin had a cameo and wish supergirl could didn't die and at the end instead of geroge clooney it should have be christan bale batman
The CGI sucked, the story was mid, the Ezra just isn't cut out to be the Flash, and... yeah. Batman and Supergirl were better highlights of the film than the Flash himself was... in his OWN movie.
Zack Snyder needs to come back and restore the Snyderverse because James Gunn movies are too quirky and offbeat for my liking and having a quirky Superman and Batman as well as The Flash won't suit these films
@@theclutchxgawd that wouldn't be realistic. They're in the business of making money. They spend a fortune to make them and need to recoup that money plus make a profit. You can say things like that because it isn't your studio losing money.
@theclutchxgawd you made a statement so I answered. Where is the confusion? Studio's have to make money to continue to make movies lol. If the movie is bad why spend money on it? Consumerism. Would you be ok spending money on crap movie? It forces them to think and hopefully do better.
@@DigitalBaller1 Because yall are trying to equate a movie not making money with a bad movie. Thats not the same thing. The Blackening was objectivly hilarious and got good reviews, did it do good in the box office ? No, that doesnt make it bad it just means people arent going the movies much since covid. Most people would also rather wait for streaming idk whats the point in beating a dead horse.
Maybe, but he never would’ve gone for it. I’m pretty sure he was originally meant to be in the end scene but he tuned it down instead giving a much more deserving ending to Ezra’s time in DC.
There is only one answer: Ezra Miller
Nah he's a big reason but not exactly the reason they've been trying to make this movie since '07 and it's been delayed so many times that it was just basically a guaranteed way to fail Miller didn't make things any better, but this film was always doomed
Facts!!
@@ikedatike2533Miller kept getting into trouble and caused delay.
@ftwsam2246 there's not a movie in history where one actor allegations movie didn't make money stop it
@@brianbabin6333 yeah he was ok, but he's still a piece of shit.
I'm assuming James Gunn used Clooney because Christian Bale turned down appearing in the post credit scene (rumored), Keaton was already in the film, and Gunn doesn't want Pattinson connected to any other universe. To me, it felt like the movie was trying to say that Ezra Miller's Flash is now in George Clooney's timeline. Not in Gunn's DCU.
Gunn already confirmed George Clooney isn't his Batman in the DCU and Gunn already casted his Superman. Seems like they didn't know where to put Ezra's Flash so they just stuck him in Clooney's universe. I will say the ending can definitely create miscommunication and it's the job for the writer to make it clear to the audience. Especially if you want the audience to know your about to reboot the franchise.
Wait I thought this was in the works long before Gunn was given the DCU reigns.
So, Gunn is gonna officially make a new, hopefully improved MCU, is what you're saying?
@@Squadplaya
Maybe they had some talks before it was official, perhaps asked him about it, should he be given rights later on.
Being trapped in the Clooneyverse hell is the funniest thing that could’ve possibly happened to Ezra. Hoping that the next live action Flash we get is Wally.
imagine black wally become the new flash instead of kid flash
It’s the same thing that happened with X-Men, a reboot was announced before the release, so everyone lost interest because they knew it wasn’t going anywhere
This movie was finished and in the vault and reshot because of Ezra multiple times. James Gunn did nothing to or for this movie besides promote it and he even said in subtle ways that this was before he took over. Blue beetle is the same, it’s not a James Gunn product BUT he’s much more openly supporting it and he’s actually planning to use Xolo Maridueña as Jaimie
3:13 Great point regarding the Wally west thing. I got those vibes as well.
Yooo this was a great review. Really gave me a laugh 🤣 you still got that old school MWN/TBH sense of humor I loved watching all those years ago
It's two reasons
1.) Ezra Miller. Nobody understands separating art from artist
2.) Gunn pulled a dumb move by saying this movie will have no effect in the reboot
Fr and he should of used this movie as a reboot by having barry to sacrifice himself and then a cameo of a new universe or somethin like that
@@xguy2950 i would have had the universe reboot and when it's rebooted, it changes Barry's anatomy so he's another actor, that way we keep the same flash but he just looks different
Grant Gustin appearing as young Ezra Miller wouldn’t make sense at all
Thank you for saving my childhood and 2 hours of my time. I believe your review might be better than the damn movie!
Ezra… At least it wasn’t kids I guess…
He should at least be catching a few beatings.
Besides Erza Miller , James Gunn basically killed this universe. No Reverse Flash, no Cyborg, the Batman cameos were overhyped, and the store was not good at all
Why do you guys keep thinking Gunn had anything to do with this movie? He literally changed the ending with Batman, thats it
@@theclutchxgawd He publicly said the DCU as we know it was ending . So naturally people are gonna lose interest in seeing the movie. Why would anyone pay to go watch a movie that leads to nothing. Use your brain idiot
"Scarlett speedster." That's quality writing.
I think this is before the upcoming reboot but who knows. I think some other people besides James Gunn could do the Elesworld movies and have the people that James G don't want to work with to play a different version of their characters or some one else entirely. I couldn't see it because it didn't last very long in theaters. "Spider-Man across the Spiderverse" last much longer. No matter what I did love seeing the classic yellow circle bat symbol. Everyone have been putting their logo on a black on black or grey suit.
Saw it yesterday on my plane from LAX to Dublin
Something else. The only reason Nora survived is because of Henry being home. So her killer can’t be Reverse Flash, because what’s Henry going to do against him? But apparently according to the director, he planned on bringing in RF in the sequel to reveal he’s Nora’s murderer. Wtf?
if barry never become flash,there will be no reverse flash
@@joalter3106reverse flash is basically a constant at this point with how many times he’s gone back in time messing with shit
Mentioning how this movie was a super mega flop without mentioning the HUGE elephant in the room is crazy. DC has released about 3-4 stinkers that did well. Thats not why this movie flopped.
The flash messed up the timeline so bad he not only changed batman but also his dad.
Hint: they changed the actor who played his father from the Justice league movie.
Wait, they did? Oof, why?
Tbh, remember that DCAU Flash is Wally West. They had him take up the mantle since Barry was dead in the comics at the time.
And then Geoff Johns HAD to bring Barry and Hal Jordan back because he didn't want to write characters he didn't grow up with. So he stuffed Barry back into the story when we had over 20 years of Wally as the Flash including Barry in the speedforce telling West he is better and quicker than himself. But then nah, Barry because *THATS MY FLASH DAMN IT*
@@richborn6700 Damn 🤣🤣
Grant gustin’s dad was my college professor I know no one cares but it’s still cool to me
That's pretty cool.
ezra is a menace to society, which is why i didnt see it
That’s the reason a lot of people didn’t see it. The boycott worked lol
5:30 exactly why I don’t watch trailers anymore
He didnt even bother to find out who killed his mom🗑
On gawd 🗿 I thought we were gonna see the Reverse Flash, but nah, guess not. 😅
@@thalmoragent9344y’all dumb 😂the second flash was him 😂he created him without knowing n it was actually a dope movie n yes he did the other flash who push him out of the speed force 😂
@@mickie5530
you literally didn't answer the question of who killed his mom, mediocre movie
@@mickie5530did he killed his mom? no he wanted to save his universe but needed flash 1 to make sure he can stay
My theater loved Clooney in the end. It’s diff when u watch streaming n watch in theater.
Clicked on this channel thinking it was JaxBlades alt. 3 seconds in, I think I'm stayin
8:09 I’m positive that we won’t be seeing George Clooney again. I believe it was an indication that we will be leaving this specific universe in the dust. It was goodbye to them in my eyes.
Damn and i was hyped fer this one too
Someone who worked on the movie came out and said they made the Cgi look like that on purpose
What show you working on TBH? Behind the scenes or are you acting? I hope it’s narration you would be goood in that field
It was basically a reality TV show for gamers. Still not sure when it supposed to come out
@@TheArtofKAS And I'm pretty sure that he's under NDA, so he can't say anything about it until he's got full clearance.
@@AndreTheTruth2 you're right. That's really all he has said so far during the streams that I was able to catch.
cant say im suprised it didnt sell well, its honestly so wild this movie still came out after the rampage ezra miller was on lol
Your trailer point is the reason I don’t watch trailers anymore. They reveal way too much.
I liked the flash movie. It doesn’t compare to the animated movie flashpoint paradox, but it wasn’t bad at all. However, I was annoyed by the fact that reverse flash was not mentioned, as he is the one that took out his mom, but I got the vibes that they truly tried their best with this movie and it wasn’t extremely lazy like certain past super hero movies. ( that includes lazy marvel and DC movies )
I knew it was trash when I saw batman and superman had to be in the movie to help drive up hype
Why didn’t they use the the tv flash actor for the movie or they just rather have a different one
What were you filming?
Bro how do u manage so many channels? I would love to see what your daily schedule look like.
I give it a solid 9.5 best Super Hero film ever no cap
TBH are you going to see Blue Beetle?
DC hasn’t had decent live action movie since man of steel story wise and cgi wise other than maybe aqua man in my opinion.
The animated series’ for DC continues to carry because they have a better creative direction and can do a lot more thanks to it being animated.
Joker 2019 and The Batman 2022: Are we a joke to you?
@@pierrefrancois7396 forgot about joker and Batman 2022 had me falling asleep the entire movie it was not good
I might be in the rare minority, but I actually enjoyed this movie. I was never bored at all. I have a much better time watching this than I did majority of these other superhero movies we’ve gotten lately (besides gotg 3)
I also enjoy the movie and alot of other people did too.
I thought the movie was fine. I dont get the hate.
@@jaysmooth4998 yea alot of people say the movie was fine
Same here. It was 7/10 quality for me. The reason the film bombed was literally cause of Ezra Miller. People were actively boycotting the movie because of him.
@@akilbrazier1421Yeah, I'm one of them.
Tried to have hope in this movie but already knew with Ezra this Flash was ruined since he’s been introduced….tried of them making this awkward weird dude too. Literally have examples of the Flash characters from the animated series but they want to keep making him this nerdy weird dude who can’t get laid
Hamada fired Ray Fisher, they didnt do the flash point story
They rebooted the Zack Snyderverse and used his villains
this movie was made for no one this was for Snyder Fans it was for "dc fans" but yet these dc fans dont show up to see this trash
I am gonna defend this point becuse everyone seems to missunderstand it. The way things looks when Flash see through the speed force place and the last bit towars the end of the movie when we see old version of Superman and The Flash are not meant to look realistic it´s stylished but they did a horrible job at potraying that so everyone at first think that is suppose to look realistic. The only thing suppose to look realistic but did´t was the babies and the dog and they looked bad like the CGI dog did not look like the same dog later.
My question is how they even used 200 million in the first place
Why is Zod the main villain flash has his own villains maybe like Godspeed or a reverse flash or I think a gorilla grodd we are we using a Superman villain
We can all answer that without your take but please go right ahead.
I actually liked it a little bit
NGL at least morbius doesn't look absolutely horrible.
Not TBH making the undercooked microwave joke as soon as the babies start getting put in the microwave😂😂😂. He had me right there 🥲.
I went into this movie expecting nothing crazy but was hurt to watch most of the movie. Loved Batman and Supergirl.... But..... It wasn't enough. Also good point about having most of the movie in the trailer because that was definitely the case.
I just watched the movie. It wasn’t that bad.
I give it a 7.5
Out of 100?!
Willing to bet Gladiator 2 will be hot trash following current movie trends.
You dont watch movies clearly
@@theclutchxgawd you clearly don't listen to earnings reports.
@@TheForever206 I don’t know if you knew this but um earnings reports don’t tell you whether or not you’d personally enjoy a movie. Hope this helps !
@@theclutchxgawd nothing is stopping anyone from enjoying movies. That doesn't take away from the fact that big named / budget movies have been in fact FAILING at the box office for years now.
Even comparing old movies that flopped financially are nothing compared to today. Just look at the old green lantern movies and adjust it for Inflation. Its honestly hilarious at this point.
They should have use batflick instead of Keaton 🤦🏾♂️
what!? no one liked the bat nipples and bat booty?
I’m never going to support another Ezra Miller movie ever again. It’s a bad financial decision to cast him.
I get what the movies ending is trying to do, alot of timeline changing films do it but did we really need DC doing the same thing after marvel just did it lmao
If you can't beat em, copy em lol
No one wanted go to support this movie. And everyone knows exactly why (cough) Ezra (cough)
I was at the movie with my girl enjoying drinks and sneaking bumps. Even partying this film was trash
Ezra miller
W
To be honest the only way the flash would a get better if the cgi wasn't bad and if grant gustin had a cameo and wish supergirl could didn't die and at the end instead of geroge clooney it should have be christan bale batman
George Clooney Batman is my favorite Batman.
No I'm not joking.
I’m fairly sure Gunn was legally required to say it was good
That movie was so garbage i was actually mad. Not even the eternals was that bad.
The CGI sucked, the story was mid, the Ezra just isn't cut out to be the Flash, and... yeah.
Batman and Supergirl were better highlights of the film than the Flash himself was... in his OWN movie.
Zack Snyder needs to come back and restore the Snyderverse because James Gunn movies are too quirky and offbeat for my liking and having a quirky Superman and Batman as well as The Flash won't suit these films
Next is blue beetle. That movie will flop because it is following a bunch of flops from well known characters unlike blue bettle.
Imagine if we just watched shit and stopped constantly focusing on how much money a movie made
@@theclutchxgawd that wouldn't be realistic. They're in the business of making money. They spend a fortune to make them and need to recoup that money plus make a profit. You can say things like that because it isn't your studio losing money.
@@DigitalBaller1 Its not your studio either so once again i ask, why does it matter?
@theclutchxgawd you made a statement so I answered. Where is the confusion? Studio's have to make money to continue to make movies lol. If the movie is bad why spend money on it? Consumerism. Would you be ok spending money on crap movie? It forces them to think and hopefully do better.
@@DigitalBaller1 Because yall are trying to equate a movie not making money with a bad movie. Thats not the same thing. The Blackening was objectivly hilarious and got good reviews, did it do good in the box office ? No, that doesnt make it bad it just means people arent going the movies much since covid. Most people would also rather wait for streaming idk whats the point in beating a dead horse.
Still I like Supergirl
I’m not gonna lie using Christian Bale probably would’ve sold more
Maybe, but he never would’ve gone for it. I’m pretty sure he was originally meant to be in the end scene but he tuned it down instead giving a much more deserving ending to Ezra’s time in DC.
Ay yo! Leave the puns to the comment section. It’s all we got!
Disagree
Because it was trash. I just finished watching. Terrible
They can’t blame this on “wokeness” evens though they try, so that’s why nobody is really talking about this.
Or maybe it’s just straight up bad and nobody really cares for it