@@OnlyMadnessPain if you want a stereo go for r1700bt, if you want a compact (minimalist) go for the d12. mono is fine, i have both the d12 and the r1700bt. d12 for my work office, as my cubicle didn't have much space, this "fat soundbar" works out great. the r1700bt for my home pc. both of these have the same good sound. and...we surely talking about these 2 speakers right? 😁 unless you really want to go all out with dolby atmos dts 3d hi-fi 9.1, then this video isn't it 😊
@@andreasbernardi3654 I was talking about using D12 as a desktop speakers. U can do it Just split the input with proper cable into 2 separate jacks and u can have an stereo output out of 2x D12 Otherwise that's quite useless while (for example) gaming
@@OnlyMadnessPain nice, but no can't do. don't have that much space. one will suffice 😁 beside not gonna blast them all out, just for my easy listening.
You can add more treble, yes the tweeters are real, you can also remove some bass from the d12, it is sharing two mid drivers in a pretty small box. Also hence the smaller soundstage vs having a left and right speaker separated by over a meter
I have both speakers and R1700 are much more clear and "monitor" sounding. Whats more important it has proper stereo soundstage which d12 lacks completely. I listen to r1700 at near max volume all the time which i rarely do on d12 cuz it just sound muddy. D12 has two modes "music" and "movie". Movie mode applies some strange shit to audio, bass becomes really powerful and messy and it also adds fake stereo effect . Music mode is ok, but r1700 are definitely better in terms of clarity. Also it is much more difficult to position d12 in a room for some reason as it causes too much resonance on nearby surfaces. It is possible though and d12 is a good solution for something like "kitchen boombox" but to be honest it is just "good" at best. r1700 on the other hand are amazing. But i think these speakers are just for completely different applications
Not a good idea. The best way to get good 5.1 is to use 5 identical speakers with good horizontal dispersion and D12 is a really bad choice for this. Worst-case scenario, the 3 fronts being identical and the surrounds at least with the same signature sound (i.e. same brand, same series). The woofer size of the 5 speakers is crucial depending on the listening distance. Up to 1m distance from the speakers 5" woofer is fine, for a 1.5m distance you will need speakers with 6" woofers, for 2m you will need speakers with an 8" woofer. The best upgrade to a 5.1, is a 5.2, followed by a 5.4, followed by a 7.4.
A center speaker has its specific channel from 5.1 audio sources, but D12 built in stereo altogether, if you use it as center speaker, you might end up hearing all sound mixing together, worse space separation than a real 5.1 setup
@lawlaw76, its easy, just use an rca jack with y splitter on center output and put the splitted rca jacks to the input of d12, with that both channels of d12 will hav the center audio only..
I have both, mr4 is more detailed and smoother, d12 is more musical, it feels like v-frequency response, I really like the sound of both devices, you need to take both, and then leave what you like best
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D12 sounds more closed R17 more open and clear. Bass on D12 is not natural or deeper than R17 cos of the compact size. Thanks for the video. 👍🏻
The D12 is almost identical to the original source. Can you put 2 in stereo to see the difference?
в любом случае 2 колонки будут лучше чем 1.. Эдики чем дальше разносишь тем круче они звучат
D12 in dual speaker setup might sound better and superb
It is similar to R1280 if you ask me, Edifier can bury a person with their 2.0 speakers
D12 is almost half the price of Edifier r1855 in Inidia. Would love to see comparison with two D12 as a pair of monitors
Which mode was the d12 set to?
Edifier D12 vs Edifier r1855db. Which one is better?
I'm also confused between these two.
So which one did you get??
edifier 1700bt or logitech z625 for metal music and movies?please sir
The d12 is the closest sounding to refrence track i've heard yet... is it the room/microphone? There's no way it's flatter than studio monitors lol
Please, if possible, do a comparison for Swans m10 vs it's equivalent and Swans M50W
are R1700BT still good when connect to TV ? I am still confused to buy, R1700 or R1280DB
their price varies a lot
If you want listen to music sometimes, the R1700BT are much better. For Movies the R1280 are better overall i think.
@@浩田李-i8g thanks
@@Knallchote yups thanks for ur info but I had already bought 1280DB from 8 months ago
I like both, help me to decide wich one I should buy for my little studio! Thanks
Buy both as I did too. The d12 in my livingroom, the other at my PC. I love them both.
@@thaifold For studio buy the MR4, instead.
always awesome!
Edifier D12 is a nice set-up for PC.
just put it under the monitor like a sound bar, with a better output then the regular sound bar.
mmm..no
Yeah and enjoy mono sound xDD
U need 2 of them
@@OnlyMadnessPain
if you want a stereo go for r1700bt, if you want a compact (minimalist) go for the d12.
mono is fine, i have both the d12 and the r1700bt. d12 for my work office, as my cubicle didn't have much space, this "fat soundbar" works out great.
the r1700bt for my home pc. both of these have the same good sound.
and...we surely talking about these 2 speakers right? 😁
unless you really want to go all out with dolby atmos dts 3d hi-fi 9.1, then this video isn't it 😊
@@andreasbernardi3654
I was talking about using D12 as a desktop speakers.
U can do it
Just split the input with proper cable into 2 separate jacks and u can have an stereo output out of 2x D12
Otherwise that's quite useless while (for example) gaming
@@OnlyMadnessPain nice, but no can't do. don't have that much space. one will suffice 😁 beside not gonna blast them all out, just for my easy listening.
Hi How to find the "Deep" music ? I like this music !!!
I can't find it either! if you've find it pls let me know.
Hi I've found it. It's "Time of the Streets" by "Donna Havoc Fay".
Let's go D12!
R1800 better midrange and amplitude. A love the stereo.
please do comparison with swans m10. no one has ever did that with any speaker
D12 surprised!!!! Real good!!! But more for Dance music!
D12 needs more definition. more highs.. are their tweeters real?? functional? 1700 need more beef, sound hollow
thanks for the video.
You can add more treble, yes the tweeters are real, you can also remove some bass from the d12, it is sharing two mid drivers in a pretty small box. Also hence the smaller soundstage vs having a left and right speaker separated by over a meter
I have both speakers and R1700 are much more clear and "monitor" sounding. Whats more important it has proper stereo soundstage which d12 lacks completely. I listen to r1700 at near max volume all the time which i rarely do on d12 cuz it just sound muddy.
D12 has two modes "music" and "movie". Movie mode applies some strange shit to audio, bass becomes really powerful and messy and it also adds fake stereo effect . Music mode is ok, but r1700 are definitely better in terms of clarity. Also it is much more difficult to position d12 in a room for some reason as it causes too much resonance on nearby surfaces. It is possible though and d12 is a good solution for something like "kitchen boombox" but to be honest it is just "good" at best. r1700 on the other hand are amazing. But i think these speakers are just for completely different applications
now i'm thinking of 5.1 setup and this edifier D12 will gonna be my center... but which edifier can perfectly be my 4 others?...
Not a good idea. The best way to get good 5.1 is to use 5 identical speakers with good horizontal dispersion and D12 is a really bad choice for this.
Worst-case scenario, the 3 fronts being identical and the surrounds at least with the same signature sound (i.e. same brand, same series). The woofer size of the 5 speakers is crucial depending on the listening distance. Up to 1m distance from the speakers 5" woofer is fine, for a 1.5m distance you will need speakers with 6" woofers, for 2m you will need speakers with an 8" woofer. The best upgrade to a 5.1, is a 5.2, followed by a 5.4, followed by a 7.4.
A center speaker has its specific channel from 5.1 audio sources, but D12 built in stereo altogether, if you use it as center speaker, you might end up hearing all sound mixing together, worse space separation than a real 5.1 setup
@lawlaw76, its easy, just use an rca jack with y splitter on center output and put the splitted rca jacks to the input of d12, with that both channels of d12 will hav the center audio only..
treble spark is missing in d12
D12 seems more pleasant!
D12 no have sound stage stereo, buch overall sound quality is very good!
Edifier d12 vs sonos five , please!!!
in my country D12 20 dollar cheaper than 1700bt so...i choose D12 for compact
D12 sounds more natural
do Hivi Swans d1100 vs Edifier R1700BT
klipsch promedia 2.0 pls.
please bro, do compare swans m10
D12 vs R1280BT
D12
Edifier d12 vs Edifier Mr4 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Boa briga man jkkkkk tô querendo as duas
@@xpowerxMusic conseguiu ver alguma comparação por aí? to em dúvida em qual comprar tb
I have both, mr4 is more detailed and smoother, d12 is more musical, it feels like v-frequency response, I really like the sound of both devices, you need to take both, and then leave what you like best
@@ИльяЛисицкий-ч4и can i use 2 x d12 for stereo sound? i am going to upgrade my pc, making it a home cinema with these monitors
@@ElsweyrDiego theoretically it is possible, but you need to connect 2 rCA cables, from your source through a splitter, in parallel, not in series.
房间模式更严重了 60hz
d12闷
I prefer the xbox controllers tbh 😉