I ordered both recently and came to the same conclusion most people are commenting: the R1700BT is a little brighter and my pick for "winner" of the two sound wise. The 1280 still sounds good, boosting the treble a little improves it too, but with everything at 0, the 1700 in an easy win. Vocals and live music sounds much more natural on the 1700. I don't see an issue with not having a sub on either set - there is plenty of bass for most of the people that will probably be buying this speaker. Note that the 1280 has a digital out and cox out, that the 1700 does not. This may factor in some peoples decision as the 1280 will be easier to connect to most TVs via the digital out (i actually found this super annoying, since I then needed to use two separate remotes to control the tv and then the sound). Aesthetically, it's a hard pick for me. I do like that the 1280s have a flat front as opposed to the 1700s slant. This has to do with where I have the speakers mounted. I like the 1700 cabinet well enough and the build quality is far superior to the 1280, but something about the 1280 color scheme draws me to it more (both were the wood grain versions). Hope this helps.
Hi, just wanted to touch more on the idea about controlling the 1280's tone, adding more treble to get close to the 1700 brighter sound. Do you think it's possible to do that and save money and getting more options in terms of outputs as well.
so if I will connect 1280 via optical, I will have to use separate remotes for volume, tv volume not going to work? does tv remote work when connecting with line imput ( red and white)?
I've watched sooo many video comparisons at this stage and thanks to Digital Stereophony and the user comments I've just ordered the R1700BT for the best overall value/price and sound quality. I miss something in the R1280DB sound, kinda muffled to my ears. This channel is invaluable!! Thanks a lot.
Vocals are clearer with 1280 because 1700 is more mid scooped. The other point of view is that 1280 has less pronounced highs which opens up the space for upper mids.
I did a side by side test with these speakers and this is very accurate. The 1280db has slightly deeper bass but the 1700bt is SO much crisper with a much larger sound stage. The 1700bt is better overall, especially for movies as it's much easier to hear dialogue with the clear separation of sounds.
To my eyes, R1280DB's with speaker covers on them look very good/fancy but sound wise R1700BT got the scores. Love all of your videos, big fan here. Cheers!
@@TestAccount-uu9vp The 1280db sounds more bassier because it's tweeters has low impact on the bass while the 1700BT is rich in sound and perfect and much balanced sound that 1280db
you found a good way to record this speakers and it gives a usefull comparison. Thanks! I would prefer if you would include more tracks with a singer. Our ears are usually very sensitive to the sound of the human voice. Its a good test for a natural sound reproduction.
Bought the 1280db at first cuz I was on a budget. Today I got the 1700bt on sale for 110$. Instantly sold the 1280’s to my dad. There is no going back lol. I was so torn apart choosing between 1280t and 1280db at first and eventually went with the db’s just because I’ve got a potent motherboard on my PC which has digital output and I was thinking that’s going to make a difference, but eventually I feel like I made a mistake since the db’s sounded so muffled. Lucky for my dad though is that he needs the BT mode. Now with the 1700bt’s it’s day and night difference and I’m no audiophile by any means I just wanted something decent for my gaming rig in the 100 euro range and I feel like these are unbeatable, they are definitely worth the “entry-level audiophile stereo speakers” tag I have read on various reviews about them. And of course thank you for these videos. Really helped me finally making a decision.
I initially tot this comparison won't give much overview, the recording and the way we listen to our own equipment... yet I am glad I was wrong... keep up the good work!
I'm currently using the R1280DB's, the R1700BT's, the R1850DB's, the R2000DB's, and the S350DB's (2.1 system). In each case, the sound quality go's up a notch or two as you climb the model ladder. In a real world scenario, using great cables, etc., you'll find that although the 1280's are nice (especially for the money), they are a bit boxy sounding on some material. When you jump to the 1700 BT speakers, the sound becomes a bit more open (and yes, just a tad brighter if you want to use that term - but still nicely balanced). I've got several DAC's (that I switch back and forth via a switcher) and you should hear the unbelievable high-end sounds coming out of the R1700BT's whn compared with a DAC like the iFi ZenDAC - just remarkable and breath-taking. Now if you jump up to the RR1850DB's, you will begin to really notice a difference as the speakers are even more dynamic, have more bass and are even more open - more so than "next step up" R2000DB's. The Edifier line of speakers are surprisingly superb for the money and if you are careful with your other gear and accessories (such as using upgraded RCA cables, a great DAC, upgraded USB cables to connect to a PC for instance, etc., the Edifiers then become audiophile quality transducers to be sure. The only issue I have with the majority of Edifier speakers is that they use these old fashioned PC type of cables to connect the speakers. And the lengths of these cables are ridiculous - I believe they are 15-16' in length. Since many of us these Edifier speakers in a near-field environment by our desktop PC's (or laptops), having that long of a cumbersome PC style of speaker cable is ridiculous. Both the R1700BT's and the R1850DB's use the same type of 4-pin cable. I actually found a vendor on eBay that sells 53" versions of these cables - which comes to around 4.5 feet, which is ideal for a PC setup. Here is the direct link to that cable. I've already ordered 3 sets of these cables - they are quality using belden cable. The link is (just cut in paste if the link doesn't allow you to click on it): www.ebay.com/itm/GENUINE-MOLEX-4-Pin-53-High-Quality-Speaker-Cable-for-Edifier-R1700BT-R1850DB/333630116398?epid=1953258580&hash=item4dade7922e:g:JlUAAOSwB4Je7QyY Only the 1280DB's allow for conventional speaker wire to be used. and I use a better grade 14 gauge variety. On all of the others they use either 4-pin or 5-pin old fashioned DIN cables - which are almost impossible to find anywhere. However, I've managed to crack the code and I've had Blue Jeans Cables map out these cables and they made me some nice audiophile versions of these cables (5-pin) for the R2000DB and they sound wonderful. Have a great day! Ben Herrmann Fuquay Varina, NC
@@kamashi85 I am copying this brief article from David Salz from Wirewold. He says it best - better than I could - see below: Are USB cables really just 1's and 0's traveling down a wire? If not then what? Digital signals are actually square waves that are detected by the receiver when they pass a voltage threshold. Any variation in the shape or timing of these waveforms can cause errors in these signals. How sending a file of music is different than that of an image to print? It is just data after all. When a file is saved or sent to a printer, the error correction system in the receiving device can ask the sending device to resend the file until it confirms that the file is completely correct. Streamed music signals do not benefit from this resend function and therefore error correction systems cannot replace missing or corrupted data. What is happening inside a USB cable that could impact the sound or information being transmitted? The normal losses of cables will round and tilt the signal waveforms, creating data errors that cause audible losses, tonal coloration and distortion. Those losses and colorations can easily be heard when standard USB cables are compared to reference adapters made from USB plug contacts soldered back-to-back. Designing a USB cable for minimal loss and maximum waveform fidelity is the only way to minimize these losses. Separate power and signal? Computer power supplies are notoriously noisy and that noise can compromise the fidelity of USB audio. Most USB cables do not isolate the noisy power conductor from the signal conductors, so noise can mix with the signal and it can also enter the DAC through the 5 volt USB power conductor. Therefore, the 5 volt conductor needs to be isolated from the signal and filtered of noise or replaced by a separate quiet power source. Noise? Noise can also be generated from static charge interaction within the cable. This triboelectric noise adds roughness to the signal waveforms. That roughness creates additional timing errors (jitter) in the signal. Reducing this noise enables cables to sound closer to the purity of the reference direct connection.
Hi Berned, sorry for the late reply but i hope you can help me. do you think that the s350db is an upgrade over the R1850DB or even the R2000DB. I'm not a basshead but i want a good par of sepaaker (2.0 or 2.1) for my pc (music, movies and gaming). thanks for the help in advance
@@DiogoSotero Well, let's clarify here first. Did you mean comparing just the bookshelf speakers by themselves (without the subwoofer on the 350)? I think the R1850DB and the R2000DB are superb speakers. Obviously, the R2000DB will give you a bit more bass due to the 5" woofer. It is of "my opinion" that audio quality-wise, both speakers easily beat the 350's. The 350's will obviously go lower because of the added subwoofer. During my tests, the 350's will first impress you - and this could also be psychological due to how gorgeous they look (especially the bookshelf speakers). But on extended listening, you find that the mids and highs are a bit shrill when compared to other Edifier speakers. Right now I am listening to a pair of R1850 DB's and also connected is the Edifier T5 subwoofer, which is basically the same subwoofer as on the S350 - but with more controls, etc). This combination easily beats the S350's with a much smoother midrange and superb highs. And the lows are handled quite well. I just got finished listening to Aaron Copland's "Fanfare for the Common Man," and the sheer impact was amazing with this setup (1850's and the inexpensive T5 subwoofer). Now if you don't want to go the subwoofer route, then yes, the R2000DB is an ideal trade-off. It has a nice full (rich) sound and you will be surprised at how much bass that baby pumps out. I can heartily recommend just those speakers alone also. The sky's the limit here - so many Edifiers to choose from. Ben
@@MrBenherrmann thanks for the help realy apreaciate it. You did go streght to the point. So between the r1850db + t5 and r2000db what is the best all rounder. A little piece of information. The r1850 has a successor, the r1855. I believe only the remote is different and the bluetooth now is 5.0. Best regards
Thank you very much for your great vids, your channel is fab for music lovers in need of a good comparison between brands. During many times of listening to this video I noticed more and more that individual instruments on te 1280DB have much more character than on the 1700BT. This is very noticable during the classical music, the cello sounds full and warm. Accoustic guitar sounds very natural, so do piano notes. At first glance the 1700BT speakers seem more open, but the sound is (imho) 'tuned to please' with way to much high frequencies, no natural sound, mainly bass and highs. So last week I decided to buy the R1280DB and all I can say is: wow! After 4 days of breaking in they sound amazing. One of my test CD's is by the Crash Test Dummies (album 'God Shuffled His Feet' with MMM x3 etc) and I hear all kinds of new little effects, riffs and individual background singers. I am very, VERY happy I bought the R1280DB speakers, they are a marvel. The bass is full and punchy, but not overpowering the mids and highs. You still hear melody in bass lines. They sound bright, warm, never tiring and very natural. I'd buy them again, and again. I'm hooked. Greetings from Holland!
Thanks for sharing an alternative perspective. The 1700BT sounds a bit shrill at times while the R1280DB is "warmer". Maybe that's because the 1700BT can reproduce treble tones better?
They seem to have similar curves, but the R1700 has a wider soundstage and clearer presentation. It also sounds fuller and warmer. Both sound very good. 👍🏽
Okay, so nobody ( as far as 10 comments down) thought about the tone controls of both speakers. So, I was wondering, would the R1280's be a better option because of the output options by tweaking the treble to achieve close to clarity sounds of the R1700? I mean, the bass and treble controls are there for a reason right? Judging from the comments below, some people prefer the crispness of the 1700 and some people find it harsh. So, wouldn't the R1280 be the best overall if you could just tweak the treble to match the 1700's?
Ссылаясь на данный видеообзор при поиске колонок от 4 до 10 тыс. и проанализировав рынок, характеристики, отзывы, фирмы, качество - все таки решился приобрести эти колонки. Описание и впечатления: 1. Звук заметно качественный после SVENа за 2,5 тыс. (легкие, MDF-пластик), но звук не идеальный по отношению к Сони за 15 тыс. и звуковым системам HI-FI (не сравнивал и не слышал, но как показалось что частотный диапазон бывает прям ВАУ по сравнению с этими качественными по звучанию EFIDER R1700BT по наслышке и интуитивно) 2. Качество корпуса + вес. Однако если возьмете черного цвета и колонки будут расположены вблизко (10 - 30 см) и при освещении от светильника внутри пористая структура дерева будет выделять грязь, белые пятна, пыль. При выборе цвета имейте ввиду если колонки будут вблизи перед вами, но по мне черный цвет идеально вписывается к монитору и системнику и решил поставить у монитора, дефектов внешнего вида уже не заметно. 3. Громкость звука удивительная. Через кабель если подключаете, слышно как 10 Вт вместо 30 Вт. Как и те SVEN-новские. Через блютус громкость 25-30 Вт ! Это маленькая бомба ребят! Звук качественный, громкий, вблизи не послушаешь но на максимум слышится немного каши в частотах, но это не особо огорчает вперевес всем частотам, качеству, громкости. Басы пробивают сквозь тело и на средней громкости, особенно если выкрутить бас на всю. Соседей достать можно но не нужно) . Кому не хватает баса чтоб прям, лучше прислонить колонки к груди) 4. Пассивная колонка звучит громче пассивной но не сильно заметно, если прослушать на маленькой-средней громкости вблизи. Наверное из-за длинного кабеля ко второй колонке. 5. По моей версии пульт на 6 кнопок. Все функции выполняет. Единственное когда выключаешь колонки с пульта он выключается, но механический выключатель на колонках остается включенный для галочки. В этом случае старайтесь не проеб*ть пульт, иначе хз как вы колонки включите) А лучше не выключать колонки с пульта и вовсе. 6. Блютус по айфону и андроид. По айфону - громкость регулируется везде (на колонках, с телефона, с пульта). Оптимальное решение - прибавить на всю на колонке/с пульта и прибавлять/убавлять громкость с айфона, что очень удобно. По андроиду - громкость регулируется только с колонок и пульта, что в некоторых случаях не очень удобно. Может мой телефон старенький не имеет возможности прибавлять/убавлять громкость, уточните у других пользователей и собственно вопрос и к вам!
I purchased both. I found the R1700BTs very harsh and tinny even with treble all the way down so much so I didn't enjoy listening to them. I found myself wanting to turn the R1700BT down and not listen them at a high volume. With the R1280DBs I enjoy them at high volume.
1280 is warmer, 1700 is neutral. The 1700 hit the high notes a lot more confidently while the 1280 were recessed. Both were great but definitely prefer the 1700. I prefer brighter and detail over warm and "fun". Though during the "Man On Fire" portion it was a bit rough to listen to the 1700. Good thing both have EQ. The vocals on the 1700 is a whole lot clearer which is the whole reason why I'm upgrading my speakers. When I watch a movie I don't ever want to feel like I need to turn on subtitles again.
Men! You cannot find this level of comparison anywhere on the internet. My pick is the r1700bt, it sounded more natural, listen to the song dream a dream, r1280db has echo/hollow sound. Thanks
The R1280T sounds exactly as R1700BT ( good for rock music ) BUT THE 1700 has more power! R1280DB is kinda flat just like his big brother thE S2000 PRO ( good for acoustic music folk songs and oldies like beatles ) BUT THESE LITTLE DIFFERENCES CAN BE ADJUSTED BY THE TREB AND BASS TO SOUND EXACTLY THE SAME, YOU CANT GO WRONG ANY ONE OF THESE JUST PICK YOUR NEED IN TERMS OF POWER... im currently using the th S2000 Pro and sounds amazing, i test both A200 airpulse and S2000 pro, money wise i got the S2000, ok so i figured out that the edifier has 2 different settings, which and which? Hehehe its color coding, the black or dark in color is always in V setting and the light color like the R1280DB is the normal setting ( flat ), but again you can always change ur equalizers to sound exactly one of them because Edifier have this signature sound within their speakers including headphones, jeez try the new ANC headphone from Edifier it will blow your mind. Ok so there you go i hope it helps a lot of viewers...
Just opened and setup the R1700BT. Bought on sale for $134 AUD. My review is 3.5 stars. Good sound but the Treble control doesn't do much, and mine is not properly aligned (the groove at 12 o'clock is at 1 o'clock on mine; the Bass knob is fine). The speakers have a nice weight and feel like decent quality, except the wood effect feels a bit fake. I would recommend a minimum 5" driver (R2000DB maybe) for anything bigger than a bedroom. I got the Mackie CR5X on sale for the lounge room after my KRK 6" became faulty.
Wow, finally an awesome youtube channel with a proper set up where by you can ACTUALLY tell the difference between speaker sets through your own speakers. Brilliant. Subscribed.
Thank you for doing such great videos! I was between these two speakers..and I just bought the r1700bt but I wish they were not brown and I kinda like the looks of the 1280s more but sound wise I liked the 1700s more.
The R1700BT has overly bright highs compared to the R1280Db which are more muted (half way would be great). Not sure if I would pay extra to get the R1700BT instead of the R1280DB.. Maybe I like more the R1280DB...
1700bt tiene buenos agudos con mas vida pero tambien flaquea tambien porque a veces como q tiene mucho brillo en el sonido en cambio el 1280bt es mas plano mas aburrido pero no esos momentos de brillo. Depende el gusto de cada uno
Best speaker review on all of TH-cam. I appreciate all the different types of songs and just letting us listen without any banter. Thanks! I'll definitely buy using your links.
HI there wanted to ask if the 1700BT are still a good set to buy in 2020? or are there better alternatives in that price range? i do like how 1700BT sound cause i like the detail they produce. Thanks.
Seems all these guys fail to take one thing into an account, and that's that both these speaker systems come equipped with (easily reachable) equilizers on them for both bass and treble. Yes, out of the box 1700 sounds better, but what can you do with it? It lacks mid-range, and treble is already there, kicking ass and balls, you can only turn it down a notch, and that's a stupid thing to do. Its sound is already as good as it gets, with only minor bass adjustments, according to individual preference. And its high range does that slightly annoying hissing noise that i assume would only get louder if you turn up the treble. On the other hand, while in full balance 1280DB sounds kinda weak, its sound is fully in balance, mids, lows, highs. Which makes it perfect to adjust with equilizers! And mids are simply there as is! Unlike on 1700! You can't correct the lack of mid-range on bass and treble equilizers! Shit, if i always kept my old ATP3 equilizer on zero they would be mediocre AF. Don't underestimate the power of good treble/bass adjustments. Although, i do think that the spectrum of sound is still slightly going to be narrow compared to 1700, even with some fine-tuning. I would still have to test them myself, but i'm pretty sure that with some minor work on the sound spectrum 1280DB could kick ass of both 1280T and 1700BT.
obviously your volume setting are base on the manual turning , not base on equal db rating. both are same sound quality level , only thing 1 setting much higher volume
1700 sounds like it has boosted bass and highs, and lacks in the mids. That's where the 1280 is better I think. A few tweaks on the treble and bass knob on the 1280 might do the trick, might sound even better than the 1700.
Gracias por el video, es lo que necesitaba. Compré la 1700 para la sala de estar, y ahora quería una un nivel mas bajo que para el dormitório y la elección fué la 1280.
They sound really good at this price point. Man believe me in my country the 1700BT are 100$ even and the 1280DB are around 110-120$ i think they because they are newer released, it's crazy.🙂
thank you for this insight !! Im gravitating towards to R1700BT for the convenience of bluetooth as i will be doing a lot casual listening along with with occasional mixing and they sound on par with presonus eris 3.5.HAve any of of guys tried the pionee DJ 40 ?I just came across that and seems like it fills the room up a little more .
Best comparison video I've seen so far. I think I'll go with 1700s too. If the sound is a little too bassy, I think that with a bit of adjustment on the knobs, it should be fine tuned for my preference. The 1280s do sound just a little muffled.
The Edifier R1280DBs is the best neutral sounding entry level audiophile speakers for Vinyl playback, they have pleasant high and a good bass and more importantly the mid's come through quite well , so a good all rounder for all genre of music as well. Plug in a T5 subwoofer and can take it to the next level :)
R1280 are more warm, ( detailed mids , a bit boxy) A possibly good choice for vinyl maybe? In the other hand, R17OO sounds V equalized strong lows and highs, less mid, not bad at all. As always, usefull video.
I felt drum beats are better in R1280D. Is it because R1700BT are little bit bright, and the highs are masking the mids? Secondly, when you made this video, all the bass and treble controls are in neutral?
Hi I think these comparisons are very useful at least to realize how the two speakers sound between them, especially with different musical genres the test is of great help in the choice .... it is good eris 3.5 to mix using as soundcard that Macbook integrated? Thank you
Great video but I'm having a hard time chosing between the 2 speakers in my case I am going to use them on my laptop for watching movies and listening to music Wich ones would you recommend?
I need a help. I like very much the test, but it is possible to choose the best song, but I would like to use in my home studio. So, my question is, what is more "flat" to use as studio monitors? my room is small, and I will not make acoustic preparation, it is only for my hobby. Thanks
I liked my 1280s for the money. But I didn't get the sub-out model. So I'm going to use the 1280's for my TV in a small room and get the R1700BT and sub for my living room. Thanks for the test. I can really hear the difference between the 1280's peak at 1kHz and 1700's dip at roughly 1.5kHz
The Edifier R1280DBs is the best neutral sounding entry level audiophile speakers for Vinyl playback, they have pleasant high and a good bass and more importantly the mid's come through quite well , so a good all rounder for all genre of music as well. Plug in a T5 subwoofer and can take it to the next level :)
idk if you listened through monitor speakers or monitor headphones but when I listen to the 1700 on my TV it sounds perfect while the 1280 sounds muffled. But when I listen to it on my phones the 1700 has a lot of treble, almost hurting the ears and it lacks medium when it comes to the electric guitar parts, snares, brass on the jazz. while the 1280 that sounded muffled now sound good becausa it has everything that 1700 lacks in medium
Не знаю как остальным, но мне очень понравилось звучание R1280DB, такое не агрессивное. Может, я ошибаюсь, но низкие басы на них круче звучат, но R1700BT мощнее, высокие звуки там просто супер чёткие. Но 1280 больше подходят для телевизора, думаю, что смотреть кино с такими динамиками в самый раз. Как в кинотеатре. Так что я бы купила их.
Отменил заказ1280 в последний момент. ХЗ почему, но во многих тестах они звучат так, будто хочется протереть уши, как будто заложило. Потом наткнулся на подобные тесты "лоб в лоб" и мои опасения подтвердились, все то же ощущение заложенности в ушах и резкое "прозрение" при переходе даже в этом тесте на 1700.
Great great great video comparison and a really good way to get around the usual limitations of YT Compression and recording to digital in general. My solution is to buy both so I get the best of both worlds! But its cleat that the 1700 is miles and miles better on the top end and mids are less muddy but the bass on the 1280 can not be denied. Hard to believe it's delivered by cones that small!
1280 is out of stock in my country. Is it possible to make 1700 sound like 1280 through eq? It's too bright for me. Also the bass going lower in 1280 is very good to hear
I had no liking about Edifier as Edifier produces low price speakers as well. Earlier I used Altech Lansing speaker. As per your recommendation I have bought Edifier 1700 BT. The speaker is good looking & sound is Superb. Thanks for everything ;)
I think R1280DB has more soft sound with low-med-hi freq all balanced so it will not make your ears get tired, whilst the R1700BT has more hi freq in it. For the audiophile fans, i think would prefer R1280DB than R1700BT.
believe me 1700bt's highs are not fatiguing at all. And i am a guy who realy dislikes headphones that are too bright with piercing highs. Listening to these speakers, i never heard same effect. Not sure about high volume, im only listening on medium. BTW it may actually be your headphones that make you think so :)
The R1700 seems to me to translate the music more faithfully. the r1280 sounds too dirty for my liking. I prefer the r1700, I'm going to buy some monitors to mix music and I'm between the r1700 and the JBL 140. which one do you recommend of the 2? to mix music.
I think 1700s lack bass, which is incorrectable ... 1280s lack mids, which is easy correctable. So 1280 for allaround, or 1700/1800 for bigger space (like over 20sq. meters). Coz where I live 1700s are 30% pricey, and they are definitely not 30% better, even with that much power in them.
those highs on the 1700 are too brittle! don't really love the 1280s either but for less than 100 bucks they're not bad at all and more inoffensive imo.
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I ordered both recently and came to the same conclusion most people are commenting: the R1700BT is a little brighter and my pick for "winner" of the two sound wise. The 1280 still sounds good, boosting the treble a little improves it too, but with everything at 0, the 1700 in an easy win. Vocals and live music sounds much more natural on the 1700. I don't see an issue with not having a sub on either set - there is plenty of bass for most of the people that will probably be buying this speaker. Note that the 1280 has a digital out and cox out, that the 1700 does not. This may factor in some peoples decision as the 1280 will be easier to connect to most TVs via the digital out (i actually found this super annoying, since I then needed to use two separate remotes to control the tv and then the sound).
Aesthetically, it's a hard pick for me. I do like that the 1280s have a flat front as opposed to the 1700s slant. This has to do with where I have the speakers mounted. I like the 1700 cabinet well enough and the build quality is far superior to the 1280, but something about the 1280 color scheme draws me to it more (both were the wood grain versions).
Hope this helps.
Hi Ryan, have you tried connecting 1700BT to a TV. 1280DB seems better with optical connectivity...
Hi, just wanted to touch more on the idea about controlling the 1280's tone, adding more treble to get close to the 1700 brighter sound. Do you think it's possible to do that and save money and getting more options in terms of outputs as well.
Heard people unliked the 1700s bassy sound. Is that an issue?
Can you elaborate on "1700 cabinet well enough and *the build quality is far superior to the 1280"* ?
so if I will connect 1280 via optical, I will have to use separate remotes for volume, tv volume not going to work?
does tv remote work when connecting with line imput ( red and white)?
I've watched sooo many video comparisons at this stage and thanks to Digital Stereophony and the user comments I've just ordered the R1700BT for the best overall value/price and sound quality.
I miss something in the R1280DB sound, kinda muffled to my ears. This channel is invaluable!! Thanks a lot.
Yes, definitely muffled sound in the 1280's, first demo revealed it right the way. 1700's have much clearer and fuller sound.
Vocals are clearer with 1280 because 1700 is more mid scooped. The other point of view is that 1280 has less pronounced highs which opens up the space for upper mids.
One can think it sounds muffeled, but I found sound like 1700s compared will get tiring after a while. The 1280 is easier to listen to
I did a side by side test with these speakers and this is very accurate. The 1280db has slightly deeper bass but the 1700bt is SO much crisper with a much larger sound stage. The 1700bt is better overall, especially for movies as it's much easier to hear dialogue with the clear separation of sounds.
To my eyes, R1280DB's with speaker covers on them look very good/fancy but sound wise R1700BT got the scores.
Love all of your videos, big fan here. Cheers!
@clavinetjunkie harsh? Dude R1700BT is much more clearer to me.
HELL NO 1280db sound way better
@@TestAccount-uu9vp The 1280db sounds more bassier because it's tweeters has low impact on the bass while the 1700BT is rich in sound and perfect and much balanced sound that 1280db
you found a good way to record this speakers and it gives a usefull comparison. Thanks!
I would prefer if you would include more tracks with a singer.
Our ears are usually very sensitive to the sound of the human voice. Its a good test for a natural sound reproduction.
I think Edifier sounds better
LOOL...thats was funny :D
You fool.. both are from Edifier...😂
No Edifier is much better
Wtt oh hell no edifier sounds much better !
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Bought the 1280db at first cuz I was on a budget. Today I got the 1700bt on sale for 110$. Instantly sold the 1280’s to my dad. There is no going back lol. I was so torn apart choosing between 1280t and 1280db at first and eventually went with the db’s just because I’ve got a potent motherboard on my PC which has digital output and I was thinking that’s going to make a difference, but eventually I feel like I made a mistake since the db’s sounded so muffled. Lucky for my dad though is that he needs the BT mode. Now with the 1700bt’s it’s day and night difference and I’m no audiophile by any means I just wanted something decent for my gaming rig in the 100 euro range and I feel like these are unbeatable, they are definitely worth the “entry-level audiophile stereo speakers” tag I have read on various reviews about them.
And of course thank you for these videos. Really helped me finally making a decision.
U charged your dad for used speakers? Must be rough.
@@jw7268 Thats all you got from his comment ? Some people find negatives in everything
I initially tot this comparison won't give much overview, the recording and the way we listen to our own equipment... yet I am glad I was wrong... keep up the good work!
I'm currently using the R1280DB's, the R1700BT's, the R1850DB's, the R2000DB's, and the S350DB's (2.1 system). In each case, the sound quality go's up a notch or two as you climb the model ladder. In a real world scenario, using great cables, etc., you'll find that although the 1280's are nice (especially for the money), they are a bit boxy sounding on some material. When you jump to the 1700 BT speakers, the sound becomes a bit more open (and yes, just a tad brighter if you want to use that term - but still nicely balanced). I've got several DAC's (that I switch back and forth via a switcher) and you should hear the unbelievable high-end sounds coming out of the R1700BT's whn compared with a DAC like the iFi ZenDAC - just remarkable and breath-taking.
Now if you jump up to the RR1850DB's, you will begin to really notice a difference as the speakers are even more dynamic, have more bass and are even more open - more so than "next step up" R2000DB's. The Edifier line of speakers are surprisingly superb for the money and if you are careful with your other gear and accessories (such as using upgraded RCA cables, a great DAC, upgraded USB cables to connect to a PC for instance, etc., the Edifiers then become audiophile quality transducers to be sure. The only issue I have with the majority of Edifier speakers is that they use these old fashioned PC type of cables to connect the speakers. And the lengths of these cables are ridiculous - I believe they are 15-16' in length. Since many of us these Edifier speakers in a near-field environment by our desktop PC's (or laptops), having that long of a cumbersome PC style of speaker cable is ridiculous. Both the R1700BT's and the R1850DB's use the same type of 4-pin cable. I actually found a vendor on eBay that sells 53" versions of these cables - which comes to around 4.5 feet, which is ideal for a PC setup. Here is the direct link to that cable. I've already ordered 3 sets of these cables - they are quality using belden cable. The link is (just cut in paste if the link doesn't allow you to click on it):
www.ebay.com/itm/GENUINE-MOLEX-4-Pin-53-High-Quality-Speaker-Cable-for-Edifier-R1700BT-R1850DB/333630116398?epid=1953258580&hash=item4dade7922e:g:JlUAAOSwB4Je7QyY
Only the 1280DB's allow for conventional speaker wire to be used. and I use a better grade 14 gauge variety. On all of the others they use either 4-pin or 5-pin old fashioned DIN cables - which are almost impossible to find anywhere. However, I've managed to crack the code and I've had Blue Jeans Cables map out these cables and they made me some nice audiophile versions of these cables (5-pin) for the R2000DB and they sound wonderful.
Have a great day!
Ben Herrmann
Fuquay Varina, NC
Upgraded USB cables for better sound? :/
@@kamashi85 I am copying this brief article from David Salz from Wirewold. He says it best - better than I could - see below:
Are USB cables really just 1's and 0's traveling down a wire? If not then what? Digital signals are actually square waves that are detected by the receiver when they pass a voltage threshold. Any variation in the shape or timing of these waveforms can cause errors in these signals.
How sending a file of music is different than that of an image to print? It is just data after all. When a file is saved or sent to a printer, the error correction system in the receiving device can ask the sending device to resend the file until it confirms that the file is completely correct.
Streamed music signals do not benefit from this resend function and therefore error correction systems cannot replace missing or corrupted data.
What is happening inside a USB cable that could impact the sound or information being transmitted? The normal losses of cables will round and tilt the signal waveforms, creating data errors that cause audible losses, tonal coloration and distortion. Those losses and colorations can easily be heard when standard USB cables are compared to reference adapters made from USB plug contacts soldered back-to-back. Designing a USB cable for minimal loss and maximum waveform fidelity is the only way to minimize these losses.
Separate power and signal? Computer power supplies are notoriously noisy and that noise can compromise the fidelity of USB audio. Most USB cables do not isolate the noisy power conductor from the signal conductors, so noise can mix with the signal and it can also enter the DAC through the 5 volt USB power conductor. Therefore, the 5 volt conductor needs to be isolated from the signal and filtered of noise or replaced by a separate quiet power source.
Noise? Noise can also be generated from static charge interaction within the cable. This triboelectric noise adds roughness to the signal waveforms. That roughness creates additional timing errors (jitter) in the signal. Reducing this noise enables cables to sound closer to the purity of the reference direct connection.
Hi Berned, sorry for the late reply but i hope you can help me. do you think that the s350db is an upgrade over the R1850DB or even the R2000DB. I'm not a basshead but i want a good par of sepaaker (2.0 or 2.1) for my pc (music, movies and gaming). thanks for the help in advance
@@DiogoSotero Well, let's clarify here first. Did you mean comparing just the bookshelf speakers by themselves (without the subwoofer on the 350)?
I think the R1850DB and the R2000DB are superb speakers. Obviously, the R2000DB will give you a bit more bass due to the 5" woofer. It is of "my opinion" that audio quality-wise, both speakers easily beat the 350's. The 350's will obviously go lower because of the added subwoofer. During my tests, the 350's will first impress you - and this could also be psychological due to how gorgeous they look (especially the bookshelf speakers). But on extended listening, you find that the mids and highs are a bit shrill when compared to other Edifier speakers.
Right now I am listening to a pair of R1850 DB's and also connected is the Edifier T5 subwoofer, which is basically the same subwoofer as on the S350 - but with more controls, etc). This combination easily beats the S350's with a much smoother midrange and superb highs. And the lows are handled quite well. I just got finished listening to Aaron Copland's "Fanfare for the Common Man," and the sheer impact was amazing with this setup (1850's and the inexpensive T5 subwoofer).
Now if you don't want to go the subwoofer route, then yes, the R2000DB is an ideal trade-off. It has a nice full (rich) sound and you will be surprised at how much bass that baby pumps out. I can heartily recommend just those speakers alone also.
The sky's the limit here - so many Edifiers to choose from.
Ben
@@MrBenherrmann thanks for the help realy apreaciate it. You did go streght to the point. So between the r1850db + t5 and r2000db what is the best all rounder. A little piece of information. The r1850 has a successor, the r1855. I believe only the remote is different and the bluetooth now is 5.0.
Best regards
Thank you very much for your great vids, your channel is fab for music lovers in need of a good comparison between brands. During many times of listening to this video I noticed more and more that individual instruments on te 1280DB have much more character than on the 1700BT. This is very noticable during the classical music, the cello sounds full and warm. Accoustic guitar sounds very natural, so do piano notes. At first glance the 1700BT speakers seem more open, but the sound is (imho) 'tuned to please' with way to much high frequencies, no natural sound, mainly bass and highs. So last week I decided to buy the R1280DB and all I can say is: wow! After 4 days of breaking in they sound amazing. One of my test CD's is by the Crash Test Dummies (album 'God Shuffled His Feet' with MMM x3 etc) and I hear all kinds of new little effects, riffs and individual background singers. I am very, VERY happy I bought the R1280DB speakers, they are a marvel. The bass is full and punchy, but not overpowering the mids and highs. You still hear melody in bass lines. They sound bright, warm, never tiring and very natural. I'd buy them again, and again. I'm hooked. Greetings from Holland!
Thanks for sharing an alternative perspective. The 1700BT sounds a bit shrill at times while the R1280DB is "warmer". Maybe that's because the 1700BT can reproduce treble tones better?
Me too. The 1280 BT are really really good.
They seem to have similar curves, but the R1700 has a wider soundstage and clearer presentation. It also sounds fuller and warmer. Both sound very good. 👍🏽
Okay, so nobody ( as far as 10 comments down) thought about the tone controls of both speakers. So, I was wondering, would the R1280's be a better option because of the output options by tweaking the treble to achieve close to clarity sounds of the R1700? I mean, the bass and treble controls are there for a reason right?
Judging from the comments below, some people prefer the crispness of the 1700 and some people find it harsh. So, wouldn't the R1280 be the best overall if you could just tweak the treble to match the 1700's?
Exactly what I was thinking.
It's like night and day, with only 25 bucks difference. The 1700s sound much clearer and have much Better soundstage and bass response
I think 1700 is a bit more clear and sharpen in the sound than 1280, 1280 is better in spatial and soften sound. I will choose 1700!
Thank you for your comparison of these two speakers. Very helpful in deed.
u r the best! i had purchased a Edifier R1800BT, your channel help me made the decision. love the speaker! have a nice day ahead :)
Is there an R1800BT?
@@75yomu he means 1850
Ссылаясь на данный видеообзор при поиске колонок от 4 до 10 тыс. и проанализировав рынок, характеристики, отзывы, фирмы, качество - все таки решился приобрести эти колонки.
Описание и впечатления:
1. Звук заметно качественный после SVENа за 2,5 тыс. (легкие, MDF-пластик), но звук не идеальный по отношению к Сони за 15 тыс. и звуковым системам HI-FI (не сравнивал и не слышал, но как показалось что частотный диапазон бывает прям ВАУ по сравнению с этими качественными по звучанию EFIDER R1700BT по наслышке и интуитивно)
2. Качество корпуса + вес. Однако если возьмете черного цвета и колонки будут расположены вблизко (10 - 30 см) и при освещении от светильника внутри пористая структура дерева будет выделять грязь, белые пятна, пыль. При выборе цвета имейте ввиду если колонки будут вблизи перед вами, но по мне черный цвет идеально вписывается к монитору и системнику и решил поставить у монитора, дефектов внешнего вида уже не заметно.
3. Громкость звука удивительная. Через кабель если подключаете, слышно как 10 Вт вместо 30 Вт. Как и те SVEN-новские. Через блютус громкость 25-30 Вт ! Это маленькая бомба ребят! Звук качественный, громкий, вблизи не послушаешь но на максимум слышится немного каши в частотах, но это не особо огорчает вперевес всем частотам, качеству, громкости. Басы пробивают сквозь тело и на средней громкости, особенно если выкрутить бас на всю. Соседей достать можно но не нужно) . Кому не хватает баса чтоб прям, лучше прислонить колонки к груди)
4. Пассивная колонка звучит громче пассивной но не сильно заметно, если прослушать на маленькой-средней громкости вблизи. Наверное из-за длинного кабеля ко второй колонке.
5. По моей версии пульт на 6 кнопок. Все функции выполняет. Единственное когда выключаешь колонки с пульта он выключается, но механический выключатель на колонках остается включенный для галочки. В этом случае старайтесь не проеб*ть пульт, иначе хз как вы колонки включите) А лучше не выключать колонки с пульта и вовсе.
6. Блютус по айфону и андроид.
По айфону - громкость регулируется везде (на колонках, с телефона, с пульта). Оптимальное решение - прибавить на всю на колонке/с пульта и прибавлять/убавлять громкость с айфона, что очень удобно.
По андроиду - громкость регулируется только с колонок и пульта, что в некоторых случаях не очень удобно. Может мой телефон старенький не имеет возможности прибавлять/убавлять громкость, уточните у других пользователей и собственно вопрос и к вам!
I purchased both. I found the R1700BTs very harsh and tinny even with treble all the way down so much so I didn't enjoy listening to them. I found myself wanting to turn the R1700BT down and not listen them at a high volume. With the R1280DBs I enjoy them at high volume.
Treble too dominant even on Zero? For the 1700?
I plan to buy the 1280db due to optical from my intel nuc. Is the re humming if no sound is outputed?
@@maidvices1426 For optical (and sub out) you can get the R1850DB which to me, looks and sounds similar to the 1700 but with extra connectivity.
Same here
The R1280DB sounds like it has bigger midbass drivers than the R1700BT.
1280 is warmer, 1700 is neutral. The 1700 hit the high notes a lot more confidently while the 1280 were recessed. Both were great but definitely prefer the 1700. I prefer brighter and detail over warm and "fun". Though during the "Man On Fire" portion it was a bit rough to listen to the 1700. Good thing both have EQ. The vocals on the 1700 is a whole lot clearer which is the whole reason why I'm upgrading my speakers. When I watch a movie I don't ever want to feel like I need to turn on subtitles again.
It's been a year since this comment, did you get the 1700? How is it for movie dialogue? Was it bad with the 1280?
This video and the one comparing R1280T vs R1280DB are exactly what I was looking for.
Thanks a lot.
Edit: There is also a R1280T vs R1700BT. Amazing.
Amazing tests mate, i ordered the R1700BT cant wait to set them up, thanks for making my choice easier :)
Nice! Was thinking about the R1280DBs but after your test, the R1700BTs is a much better choice and worth the extra $20.
Men! You cannot find this level of comparison anywhere on the internet. My pick is the r1700bt, it sounded more natural, listen to the song dream a dream, r1280db has echo/hollow sound. Thanks
Lovely videos, please include music with distorted guitars as well, that will help the rock/metal musicians to make the choice.
There is, 6:00??
Trumpets, bass drum, hi hat, powerfull, attack, strings, voices... Edifier R1700BT wins.
Mononoke Also imaging and separation.
You must be deaf. The 1280s do not sound as good as the 1700s
nope 1700 sounds too bright, 1280 wins.
@@erdincylmaz2842 i have both models. The 1700s do sound better.
@@stevecharette4421 what about bass
The 1700BT has really crisp tweeters giving creating clear defined treble.
Wat too harsh/sharp, it gets annoying after some time.
Now i know what i want for my birthday present... R1700 BT !!!
The R1280T sounds exactly as R1700BT ( good for rock music ) BUT THE 1700 has more power! R1280DB is kinda flat just like his big brother thE S2000 PRO ( good for acoustic music folk songs and oldies like beatles ) BUT THESE LITTLE DIFFERENCES CAN BE ADJUSTED BY THE TREB AND BASS TO SOUND EXACTLY THE SAME, YOU CANT GO WRONG ANY ONE OF THESE JUST PICK YOUR NEED IN TERMS OF POWER... im currently using the th S2000 Pro and sounds amazing, i test both A200 airpulse and S2000 pro, money wise i got the S2000, ok so i figured out that the edifier has 2 different settings, which and which? Hehehe its color coding, the black or dark in color is always in V setting and the light color like the R1280DB is the normal setting ( flat ), but again you can always change ur equalizers to sound exactly one of them because Edifier have this signature sound within their speakers including headphones, jeez try the new ANC headphone from Edifier it will blow your mind. Ok so there you go i hope it helps a lot of viewers...
Is it possible to make 1700 sound like 1280? I feel 1700 is too bright for me. What was ur experience in doing so
Just opened and setup the R1700BT. Bought on sale for $134 AUD. My review is 3.5 stars. Good sound but the Treble control doesn't do much, and mine is not properly aligned (the groove at 12 o'clock is at 1 o'clock on mine; the Bass knob is fine). The speakers have a nice weight and feel like decent quality, except the wood effect feels a bit fake. I would recommend a minimum 5" driver (R2000DB maybe) for anything bigger than a bedroom. I got the Mackie CR5X on sale for the lounge room after my KRK 6" became faulty.
Wow, finally an awesome youtube channel with a proper set up where by you can ACTUALLY tell the difference between speaker sets through your own speakers. Brilliant. Subscribed.
thank you for this comparison video! it was very effective and has sold me with the R1700BT
Same here, to my ears the R1700BT sounds noticeably better. I guess I'll go with those bad boys.
This is the best illustration I have seen on speakers I am trying to decide between the two I think I'm going to definitely go with the 1700 BT
Not a fair comparison because of the difference in woofer height and bass port placement.
Thank you for doing such great videos! I was between these two speakers..and I just bought the r1700bt but I wish they were not brown and I kinda like the looks of the 1280s more but sound wise I liked the 1700s more.
really well done, almost overlook the R1700, although I think the 1280 isnt a bad choice, 1700 is a better one
The R1700BT has overly bright highs compared to the R1280Db which are more muted (half way would be great). Not sure if I would pay extra to get the R1700BT instead of the R1280DB.. Maybe I like more the R1280DB...
Thanks - Great video - really helped me make my choice - R1700...
When I turn up the volume on the R1280DB, it sounds much the same as the R1700BT.
I listened to this on my R1700BT's. I chose the R1280DB because they sounded better.
so did i
Same here
You saved me $40 . After reading this comment I cancelled 1700. And bought 1280
Yes. Same here
1700 to listen music. 1280 for the budget home studio.
I like 1280db more ,opposite common opinion
Another question how to listen this comparison. Is it enough to use average smartphone speakers?
1700bt tiene buenos agudos con mas vida pero tambien flaquea tambien porque a veces como q tiene mucho brillo en el sonido en cambio el 1280bt es mas plano mas aburrido pero no esos momentos de brillo. Depende el gusto de cada uno
Best speaker review on all of TH-cam. I appreciate all the different types of songs and just letting us listen without any banter. Thanks!
I'll definitely buy using your links.
Wow these speakers sound so good!!! Listening through only the left channel on my broken set of $20 logitech speakers
It seems like the highs are much clearer on the 1700BT. I think they also sounded better on the bass test.
This is what you call a great comparison vid
Thanks a lot! Bought 1700BT. Awesome!
HI there wanted to ask if the 1700BT are still a good set to buy in 2020? or are there better alternatives in that price range? i do like how 1700BT sound cause i like the detail they produce. Thanks.
Seems all these guys fail to take one thing into an account, and that's that both these speaker systems come equipped with (easily reachable) equilizers on them for both bass and treble. Yes, out of the box 1700 sounds better, but what can you do with it? It lacks mid-range, and treble is already there, kicking ass and balls, you can only turn it down a notch, and that's a stupid thing to do. Its sound is already as good as it gets, with only minor bass adjustments, according to individual preference. And its high range does that slightly annoying hissing noise that i assume would only get louder if you turn up the treble. On the other hand, while in full balance 1280DB sounds kinda weak, its sound is fully in balance, mids, lows, highs. Which makes it perfect to adjust with equilizers! And mids are simply there as is! Unlike on 1700! You can't correct the lack of mid-range on bass and treble equilizers! Shit, if i always kept my old ATP3 equilizer on zero they would be mediocre AF. Don't underestimate the power of good treble/bass adjustments. Although, i do think that the spectrum of sound is still slightly going to be narrow compared to 1700, even with some fine-tuning. I would still have to test them myself, but i'm pretty sure that with some minor work on the sound spectrum 1280DB could kick ass of both 1280T and 1700BT.
obviously your volume setting are base on the manual turning , not base on equal db rating.
both are same sound quality level , only thing 1 setting much higher volume
The 1280s shouldn't sound better but to me they do, and it's not particularly close.
You should see a doctor...
1700 sounds like it has boosted bass and highs, and lacks in the mids. That's where the 1280 is better I think. A few tweaks on the treble and bass knob on the 1280 might do the trick, might sound even better than the 1700.
Agree with you
Gracias por el video, es lo que necesitaba. Compré la 1700 para la sala de estar, y ahora quería una un nivel mas bajo que para el dormitório y la elección fué la 1280.
cual suena mejor?
@@augustogallo1934 1700
r1280 sounds better. The artificially induced clarity of the r1700 through boosting the treble, sounds annoying on half the tracks.
not to mention, if you want to do that, you can just turn down the bass a bit on the knobs on your 1280 as well. Or increase the treble.
They sound really good at this price point. Man believe me in my country the 1700BT are 100$ even and the 1280DB are around 110-120$ i think they because they are newer released, it's crazy.🙂
Same story in my country, the price bump with added functions puts R1280DB at the same price level as R1700BT...
thank you for this insight !! Im gravitating towards to R1700BT for the convenience of bluetooth as i will be doing a lot casual listening along with with occasional mixing and they sound on par with presonus eris 3.5.HAve any of of guys tried the pionee DJ 40 ?I just came across that and seems like it fills the room up a little more .
Best comparison video I've seen so far. I think I'll go with 1700s too. If the sound is a little too bassy, I think that with a bit of adjustment on the knobs, it should be fine tuned for my preference. The 1280s do sound just a little muffled.
The Edifier R1280DBs is the best neutral sounding entry level audiophile speakers for Vinyl playback, they have pleasant high and a good bass and more importantly the mid's come through quite well , so a good all rounder for all genre of music as well. Plug in a T5 subwoofer and can take it to the next level :)
this channel deserves way more subs....
You just make amazing tests! All! Thanks!
R1280 are more warm, ( detailed mids , a bit boxy) A possibly good choice for vinyl maybe? In the other hand, R17OO sounds V equalized strong lows and highs, less mid, not bad at all. As always, usefull video.
It's a great compare testing
You not mentioned the bass and treble settings for the both.. is it full on the both 1700 nd 1280
I felt drum beats are better in R1280D. Is it because R1700BT are little bit bright, and the highs are masking the mids?
Secondly, when you made this video, all the bass and treble controls are in neutral?
Has anyone used the 1700bt for mixing??? Need some input befire deciding to buy these.
Please also use electronic dance music in your reviews, like tiesto, black sun empire, etc. thank you for your work!
Hi I think these comparisons are very useful at least to realize how the two speakers sound between them, especially with different musical genres the test is of great help in the choice .... it is good eris 3.5 to mix using as soundcard that Macbook integrated?
Thank you
Great video but I'm having a hard time chosing between the 2 speakers in my case I am going to use them on my laptop for watching movies and listening to music Wich ones would you recommend?
Listening with my R1700 BT. I love it
I also feel bit brighter. but more clearer and got sound stage. If we can adjust with tone control, 1700 wouldnt be bad choice.
Ordered edifier R1700bt should arrive this week it will look awesome in my home bar
i planned to get the 1700bt but there's a deal on 1280dbs with $70 only. so i went for 1280 instead and giving a chance for upgrade in the future.
I need a help. I like very much the test, but it is possible to choose the best song, but I would like to use in my home studio. So, my question is, what is more "flat" to use as studio monitors? my room is small, and I will not make acoustic preparation, it is only for my hobby. Thanks
I liked my 1280s for the money. But I didn't get the sub-out model.
So I'm going to use the 1280's for my TV in a small room and get the R1700BT and sub for my living room.
Thanks for the test. I can really hear the difference between the 1280's peak at 1kHz and 1700's dip at roughly 1.5kHz
The Edifier R1280DBs is the best neutral sounding entry level audiophile speakers for Vinyl playback, they have pleasant high and a good bass and more importantly the mid's come through quite well , so a good all rounder for all genre of music as well. Plug in a T5 subwoofer and can take it to the next level :)
idk if you listened through monitor speakers or monitor headphones but when I listen to the 1700 on my TV it sounds perfect while the 1280 sounds muffled. But when I listen to it on my phones the 1700 has a lot of treble, almost hurting the ears and it lacks medium when it comes to the electric guitar parts, snares, brass on the jazz. while the 1280 that sounded muffled now sound good becausa it has everything that 1700 lacks in medium
Не знаю как остальным, но мне очень понравилось звучание R1280DB, такое не агрессивное. Может, я ошибаюсь, но низкие басы на них круче звучат, но R1700BT мощнее, высокие звуки там просто супер чёткие. Но 1280 больше подходят для телевизора, думаю, что смотреть кино с такими динамиками в самый раз. Как в кинотеатре. Так что я бы купила их.
Отменил заказ1280 в последний момент. ХЗ почему, но во многих тестах они звучат так, будто хочется протереть уши, как будто заложило. Потом наткнулся на подобные тесты "лоб в лоб" и мои опасения подтвердились, все то же ощущение заложенности в ушах и резкое "прозрение" при переходе даже в этом тесте на 1700.
Great great great video comparison and a really good way to get around the usual limitations of YT Compression and recording to digital in general. My solution is to buy both so I get the best of both worlds! But its cleat that the 1700 is miles and miles better on the top end and mids are less muddy but the bass on the 1280 can not be denied. Hard to believe it's delivered by cones that small!
thanks ! helped to choose. All way for 1700, but i like much more the look of 1280
Alice Pozitivovna 1280 looks nicer to me too
1280 is out of stock in my country. Is it possible to make 1700 sound like 1280 through eq? It's too bright for me. Also the bass going lower in 1280 is very good to hear
I had no liking about Edifier as Edifier produces low price speakers as well. Earlier I used Altech Lansing speaker. As per your recommendation I have bought Edifier 1700 BT. The speaker is good looking & sound is Superb. Thanks for everything ;)
Got my 1700BT a few days ago. The left speaker is noticeably weaker on bass than the right one. What do heck? Anyone else experienced this?
Thanks :)
Thank you for this video!! you have made my decision absolute
love your videos ....keep em coming!
confuse bout this two.
how about R1280DB+Sub VS R1700BT ?
i already had JBL Sub
Hi, can I know what microphone you use for recording? And the between distance? Thanks
Los edifier r1700 tienen una inclinacion de 10 grados y eso los acerca mas al microfono y le da un mejor audio.
What do you recommend setting wise for treble and bass on 1700?
I think R1280DB has more soft sound with low-med-hi freq all balanced so it will not make your ears get tired, whilst the R1700BT has more hi freq in it. For the audiophile fans, i think would prefer R1280DB than R1700BT.
believe me 1700bt's highs are not fatiguing at all. And i am a guy who realy dislikes headphones that are too bright with piercing highs. Listening to these speakers, i never heard same effect. Not sure about high volume, im only listening on medium. BTW it may actually be your headphones that make you think so :)
I also feel bit brighter. but more clearer and got sound stage. If we can adjust with tone control, 1700 wouldnt be bad choice.
Very helpful vid thanks, planning to get one of those in the future
guide plase! wich ones good for a ( kind of a ) flatter responced monitoring !
The R1700 seems to me to translate the music more faithfully. the r1280 sounds too dirty for my liking. I prefer the r1700, I'm going to buy some monitors to mix music and I'm between the r1700 and the JBL 140. which one do you recommend of the 2? to mix music.
The Man on Fire music is by which artist? Thanks.
I think 1700s lack bass, which is incorrectable ... 1280s lack mids, which is easy correctable. So 1280 for allaround, or 1700/1800 for bigger space (like over 20sq. meters). Coz where I live 1700s are 30% pricey, and they are definitely not 30% better, even with that much power in them.
Thanks for that. As I am a fan of more highs than lows, I prefer the 1700s
Hello all, which speakers will be sound more good in low volume on the table?
those highs on the 1700 are too brittle! don't really love the 1280s either but for less than 100 bucks they're not bad at all and more inoffensive imo.
Which is more appropriate to use as a monitor?
Thank you, you deserve more fans
Thanks a lot! Really helpful with my decision.
if used on a piano, which one is better?