These coils are really sensitive for some reason. When they begin to fail or have fail and current is applied to them they get really hot. That heat builds up and builds up and eventually warps / melts the coil pack in place. The only reason I know this is because a 04 Accord V6 came in with a misfire on no 2, she drove it over to me and I popped the hood. Put my hand on all the coils and #2 was scolding hot, almost burnt my hand. Since it was still hot I pulled it out with vise grips right away cause I knew if I didn’t it would have gotten stuck like the one in the video. Also if the oil tube seal is leaking oil down into the oil tube, the oil will cook the coil pack as well, causing the same issue(s). Hope this helps and thanks for the question.
this happens not because of the actual coils it happens because of loose spark plugs . The loose spark plugs will allow a tiny bit of hot combustion to get past the treads and slowly cook the coils over time and cause them to expand in the coil tubes and get stuck. 100% if you got a stuck coil in a Honda V6 when you get that coil out you will find the sparkplug is loose and you can unscrew it by hand.
2 moths ago I was driving and heard a popping sound and like 5 minutes later my car died and would not start. I actually thought it was the timing belt that broke so I left it alone got it towed home . 2 months later I checked the timing belt and I looked good , I was thinking that I was gonna need a new engine . so today I checked my plugs and found a blown coil and the spark plug is gone!! I wonder what happened there. I hope if I replace my plugs and get a new coil that will fix it.
@@randygonzales6559 The spark plug just came out or unscrewed it self and the compression of the engine blew the coil and plug out the tube. A new plug and coil will fix your issue for sure but I would also check the other 5 cylinders and at the very least change all the spark plugs and torque them to spec. Trust me if you had 1 spark plug pop out ,you have other spark plugs that are loose for sure and won't be long until it happens again. But if you tackle the job and have a few coils stuck it the tube they can be a pita to get out. Some come out easy with a needle nose pliers and other will take you hours of using penetrant and picks and screwdriver ,pliers and heat to break them out piece by piece . But stick with it and they will come out .There are vids on TH-cam on this exact issue giving you tips how to get them out.
Great I am experiencing it on the backside. Have to remove the intake and valve cover but thank you I will try as safe as possible to use your technique
Just ran into this problem on my 07 Odyssey. Was gently trying to pry the coil pack out since it was stuck and it snapped right off flush with the spark plug tube like yours did. I tried putting two long wood screws into it and clamping vise grips across the screws, then prying on them with a 4ft pry bar. I couldn't get it to move at all. I figured it was just stuck to the spark plug somehow, I never thought it would be melted. Figured I might have to replace the spark plug tube if that's even possible. Thank you very much for this video, I already have a map gas torch as I live in the Ontario rust belt, everything here needs heat if you don't want to snap bolts taking things apart lol.
Thanks for the response, I was doing this job to adjust valve lash but I bought all new valve cover gaskets too, the rear valve cover looks a little wet so I suspected something was up, I guess it really needs them! Any idea if the melted coil would cause this problem: If I try to pass on the highway by flooring it, once the rpm gets high enough the van acts as if the fuel is being cut for a moment and then comes back over and over again until I let off the gas. It feels like the whole van is bucking and you loose power enough that you can't accelerate until you let off the gas.
Exact same thing happened to us yesterday. ON THE BACK SIDE!! on an 07 Odyssey i purchased less than 3 days ago. 😭 Gonna try this somehow. God be with us.
How did it go for you? My #1 cylinder pack is stuck in and won't budge. It's all in one piece so far but it's so stuck that prying it up is breaking pieces of the coil pack off
@@scottbaker240 we got it out! It was a pain in the azz for sure. Sprayed a little pb blaster around it. Just kept working it little by little with a wrench. It finally gave. Then the little rubber boot was stuck inside too. Had to fish that out with a coat hanger. Another pain in the azz. But after that we replaced coil pack and been running smooth.
started one last night top of pack was getting beat up so i finish that off thinking id get it but nope looks like ill be doing the same thing THANK YOU SIR for the way out ill give that a shot
I just had the exact same thing happen in a 2007 Honda Odyssey. Honestly, without this video I would have been lost. Thank you so much! I followed exactly as you showed and was able to remove the broken coil pack. I will say applying heat to the bottom of the tube was the most effective. Pulling actually didn't help as it was literally welded in there. Once you get the heat high enough the plug push out. Again, thank you!
You are welcome. What I figured out later was that the oil tube seals at the top of the valve cover (on the inside) were cracked and leaking. Over time the spark plug tube filled with oil and the oil ended up "boiling" the coil pack. Like an egg in a pot that you are trying to hard boil. So it cooked the coil pack in place. So my advice to you is to pull both valve covers and replace the valve cover gaskets and oil tube seals with a quality gasket. Mahle or Beck Arnley. Stay away from fel Pro for the valve cover gaskets, I have had multiple issues with them. Hope this helps.
@@bundysgarage Just as a follow up I was able to get most of the boot out with heat. However, I still had 2 inches stuck down inside around the spark plug. The boot and some plastic separated. I tried heating a spark plug socket red hot and dropping it in there hoping to melt my way down to the plug....no luck. I heated the lower part of the tube with no success. I finally got a 1/4" wood chisel and cut the handle down to fit the tight area and slowly chipped around the plug. Used a vacuum to get the chips out periodically. Oh, I also ground some teeth into a spark plug socket and put it on a drill with a swivel bit trying to cut my way down to the plug....that didn't work. Eventually, the chisel and patience got enough of the pieces out where I could get a socket around the plug. It came out. I rigged up a long tube to the vacuum and inserted it into the cylinder to hopefully get any pieces that fell down. Then, I put the valve cover and intake back on. Started the motor without the plug in that cylinder. The compression should blow any pieces out that were left behind. It's been running just fine since then. What a nightmare! I was almost thinking a mechanic was going to have to take the head off.
It sure feels good when your able to do it yourself! Thanks for sharing and glad you were able to get the spark plug out. Great tip on starting the motor without the plug to get out any debris. Good job!!!
I have two broken coil packs. Those things are stuck lie chuck. Thanks for the video. This is frustrating. I'm going to take off cover when I get home from work and have at it again. Thanks again
BundysGarage man, it's been a test on my patience for sure. So I had a coipack broke on cylinder 5, cylinder 2 and 3. That's right in the back. 🤯. I still have one left to pull out. I went ahead and pulled off intake and valve covers also to make it easier and I wanted to see how the car was maintained. I was surprised to see that it was very very clean under them covers. Thanks for your help Buddy and mostly for replying. I Apreciate your videos and knowledge. Your a big help. I'll post sum pics. God bless
i had same problem i grabbed i pointed thin knife hammered into the broken coil pack as soft as i could while still digging the knife in enough to get leverage and pull it out ! good luck
Thanks for the info still can't find much on these engines. I got 10 TSX 3.5 and it melted in cylinder 1 on the backside so I don't want to torch it due to the wires. The reason it melted is either an open in the signal wire or short to ground. My car was started and shut off. The key switch was left on and it melted the coil while checking the codes
Most likely it melted because the spark plug tube seal cracked and let oil in. The tube filled with oil and cooked the coil or you have some cheap coils in there. Stay with Denso or Hitachi coils.
This just happened to me with my 07' Honda odyssey touring. It was cylinder #4. It took a few days and only a couple hours after work to get it free. Used some pb-blaster and some small flat heads, needle nose vise grips and trying to free it up. Long story short I was able to get it free and out by drilling a hole through it using an extension on a drill and impact drill bits. Grabbed my long needle nose pliers and was able to get it free with a couple good pulls without taking the valve cover off.
Get as much of the copper wiring out as you can of the old coil which will help free it up. Get all the plastic from around the hole, spray lube really helped once I was able to make some room between the broken coil and the spark plug tube hole. Most importantly take your time and come back to it if you have to.
Make sure you don’t have oil down in the spark plug tube. That’s what “cooks” the coil packs and they swell up. Causing them to get stuck. If yo do have oil down there make sure you replace the valve cover gaskets and the oil tube seals. You don’t want to cool another coil pack. Or if it’s just gone bad and you have been driving around with a check engine light on.
This is the video I was looking for I’m going thru this same problem right now on my 04 TL and been trying to figure out how I’m gonna pull it out glad I found this cause like you said you can’t find anything else but stuck packs or broken what’s crazy is mine is in the same cylinder don’t understand how it even happened the last owner ain’t really do anything to the car I’ve been dealing with problem after problem
Wow i have never seen that I have a Honda Odyssey and I hope 🤞 this will never happen to me. Thanks for sharing your experience well appreciated now we now what steps to take thanks to you great 👍 job keep up the good work you do.
I've got a 2005 Odyssey. This exact thing happened to me while driving down the highway at 70+mph! Coil on #5 just blew up/melted! No one I approached for help had ever seen anything like it. Ended up having to re-thread the spark plug hole (the plug fried as well). The more I check into it, the more I discover that this is not as rare as one might think, especially with these vTech engines. Do you know what causes it? I used to think Honda was the Primo vehicle. But, I've had so many problems with this '05 Odyssey and an '09 Pilot that I'm now looking at NOT buying a 2018 CRV due to similar engine problems. I guess Toyota is going to have to be my next go to.
Fortunately I was able to unstick it by using WD 40. Unfortunately removal dislodged to plug electrode and left the boot gasket. Man I can wait until this is done. I am so glad this happened on the front.
Right! Can you image the back one. Make sure you check your spark plug tube seals. If they are leaking and causing oil to fill up the spark plug tube, you need to change them or it will happen again. What happens is oil gets in there and cooks the coil pack.
Man that sucks! No once the old stuck ignition coil was out it was smooth sailing. Make sure you use a quality coil for replacement. Denso NGK or Hitachi
For my Honda Odyssey 06I was driving and it basically popped out while I was driving on the freeway including the spark plug and it sounded like crap,Anyways got it fixed and when I got my van back I went over 65 on the freeway and it popped out again fixed it again and now the coyle agin is popping out I don’t go over 45 cuz I’m scared it’s gonna pop our like last time idk what to do
This happened to our odyssey once. The plug melted causing the entire metal piece of the plug that goes straight through is now in the shape of a C or S making the coil become stuck.
I have a 2006 Honda Accord 3.0 V6 (160,000) and it was having a misfire problem. When I talked to the mechanic, he told me that one of my coil packs was melted. I don't think he had to go to as much trouble as you did, but he did have to break it to remove it. I would like to know what caused it to melt. I was having an EGR code and replaced the EGR valve, but apparently the ports need to be cleaned out because I kept getting the code. I have no idea if this had anything to do with it, but as I write this, he is replacing all of the plugs and the coil packs. Got my fingers crossed that nothing else is damaged.
i got a 02 honda cr-v... two of the coil packs in cylinder 2 and 3 snapped off half way down the spark plug tube. its not melted on like this but doesnt want to let go of the spark plug any ideas
That sucks dude! I know your pain. Does it move at all? Or are they stuck in the spark plug tube? If it’s not stuck, You can try grabbing it with needle nose or one of those hook tools that has 4 clasps they come out when you push down on the top, it’s real thin and about 25 to 36 inches long.
@@bundysgarage i got them out!! :D 3 days of drilling holes in the porcelain flat head scew driver knocking the plastic edge out peace by peace needle nose pliers channel locks and some leverage thank you bundys garage
I had this problem on my 2003 Odyssey, the number 3 cylinder. Had to remove valve cover, the coil was melted into the tube due to sparkplug working loose. Ugh!
My odyssey had a misfire on #2 went to change coil on the back side cylinder 2.. it melted melted inside spark plug tube and the spark plug was just as bad I would post pictures but it won't let me
@@bundysgarage yes I had to use picks,pocket screw drivers I was able to finally get it all out and I blew out the whole so no debris would fall and when I remove the spark plug spark plug was melted and when I got it all back together was not receiving signal on Bank One which is cylinders 1 2 and 3 come to find out I had fried the PCM replaced all spark plugs and the PCM to find out that it still has a misfire on that bank but it is receiving signal now the good chance that a valve got banned or stuck open lost his seat I just have not fooled with its since.
Wonder if freezing it with upside down canned air would harden it and allow it to snap free...has worked on other stuff..never had this exact problem..thank you odyssey gods 😬
I think it would make the spark plug tube tighten down onto the busted coil pack not letting to loose. I heated it to help try to expand the tube as well as melt the plastic of the coil pack.
May i ask what specific map torch you have? I bought one off Amazon,but when i go to tilt it it goes off. Then i relight it and it goes off again when i tilt it.Thank you!
There should be a little screw adjustment at the very end of the tip, where the flame comes out. If that is opened too big, too much air gets in. Also make sure the bottle they sent you is full. You might have to weigh it to see if it’s full.
I'm literally going through the same issue with my 2006 honda pilot. Spark plug and coil pack shot out of cylinder 3 while driving down the road. Someone had cross threaded the spark plug when the replaced it before I owned it. Rethreaded it and replaced coil pack. Now the coil pack is melted in the cylinder.
I just had to do the same thing but on the back side. i used a 1/4 lag bolt and a Milwaukie ratchet drove the bolt in and pried it out. took around 45 min it was flush wioth the tube so no way to get channel locks on it.
i just got done drilling half of coil on my 08 tsx lol, that sucker took a while drill beat and vacuum until i hit the bottom and the spark plug coil was only left then i wrenched it out . defi gonna lube it when i put new ones in lol.
Get an extra long pair of needle nose oilers. Sears use to carry them but they are closed now. You need something like this and I believe Lowe’s sells them:
Where did you send your head for resurfacing? Russia? The machine shop I use can have it back to me in a day if I tell my machine guy it's a rush job, cash and a cold 12 pack go a long way with machine shops!
😩 I just had this happen to the back one and it's just the last inch of the coil pack that broke. sounds like the head has to come off. I think we are just going to junk this car cuz it has other issues too
Had a bit of luck with a lug nut removal tool , it is a Pain in the butt, but you can use a set of vise grips to tap it in place. Using a wrench on the outside of the socket to remove.
@@bundysgarage I tried using the fix a thread kit. When I use the tool to make the new threads for the insert, it grabs slightly and then gets loose. I don't want to screw this up, thinking of removing the head so I can get a better chance at repairing this.
Man that’s a bummer. Well if you need help taking the head off I have some videos on how to do it. And if you need more help we can jump on a phone call and I’ll help you out as much as I can.
Yeah I have 3 packs like this on a 2001 Jeep Cherokee 4.7 and my problem is they are in the back 🤬 I'll have to try this method. Really sucks!! Bought the Jeep and the previous owner never mentioned it, but I seen they did try to remove it.
It sucks when previous owners don’t tell you everything that’s wrong with the car. But then they are trying to get the most for their vehicle. So it’s a catch 22. Good luck in those coils.
@@Moparman58 I actually used a Dremel with a drill bit and screwed a screw into one, but then didn't work on the rest. So I Dremeled around the center and used the needle nose vise grip to pull it out. Jeeps running great now with some new fuel injectors too. I hope this helps cause I was so close to calling it quits.
My coil pack head pulled off. I had to take off the intake manifold and rear valve cover. Then used a propane torch to heat the spark plug tube (top and bottom, both sides). Much smoking from the coil pack but no fire. I was able to use needle nose vice grips to clamp onto a metal core in the coil. Initially could not move it at all, had to apply a lot of heat, then suddenly it released. I had the additional problem of the plug being held in with JB weld, which failed. Plug is out and it's either insert a thread or junk the car. (It's 210,000 miles and rusty)
Which bank do you think mine broke at?🤬🤬🤬 if you remove the valve cover couldn't you just remove the spark plug tube with the coil in it? Figured it be easier to grip.
What happens is the oil tube seal(s) fail and the tube that the coil pack sits in fills with oil. As the engine warms up and get hot it boils the oil, thus “cooking” the coil pack. A high quality coil pack, Hitachi or Denso, won’t cook like that unless it’s sitting in oil. As far as cheap coil packs, they can do all sort of funny things but usually you will see a misfire first, if ignored it will cause the coil to heat up and swell and fail.
Why do you think this happened?
These coils are really sensitive for some reason. When they begin to fail or have fail and current is applied to them they get really hot. That heat builds up and builds up and eventually warps / melts the coil pack in place. The only reason I know this is because a 04 Accord V6 came in with a misfire on no 2, she drove it over to me and I popped the hood. Put my hand on all the coils and #2 was scolding hot, almost burnt my hand. Since it was still hot I pulled it out with vise grips right away cause I knew if I didn’t it would have gotten stuck like the one in the video. Also if the oil tube seal is leaking oil down into the oil tube, the oil will cook the coil pack as well, causing the same issue(s). Hope this helps and thanks for the question.
this happens not because of the actual coils it happens because of loose spark plugs . The loose spark plugs will allow a tiny bit of hot combustion to get past the treads and slowly cook the coils over time and cause them to expand in the coil tubes and get stuck. 100% if you got a stuck coil in a Honda V6 when you get that coil out you will find the sparkplug is loose and you can unscrew it by hand.
2 moths ago I was driving and heard a popping sound and like 5 minutes later my car died and would not start. I actually thought it was the timing belt that broke so I left it alone got it towed home . 2 months later I checked the timing belt and I looked good , I was thinking that I was gonna need a new engine . so today I checked my plugs and found a blown coil and the spark plug is gone!! I wonder what happened there. I hope if I replace my plugs and get a new coil that will fix it.
@@randygonzales6559 The spark plug just came out or unscrewed it self and the compression of the engine blew the coil and plug out the tube. A new plug and coil will fix your issue for sure but I would also check the other 5 cylinders and at the very least change all the spark plugs and torque them to spec. Trust me if you had 1 spark plug pop out ,you have other spark plugs that are loose for sure and won't be long until it happens again. But if you tackle the job and have a few coils stuck it the tube they can be a pita to get out. Some come out easy with a needle nose pliers and other will take you hours of using penetrant and picks and screwdriver ,pliers and heat to break them out piece by piece . But stick with it and they will come out .There are vids on TH-cam on this exact issue giving you tips how to get them out.
@@mikealkarout9555 Thank you for the advice !! much appreciated.
Great I am experiencing it on the backside. Have to remove the intake and valve cover but thank you I will try as safe as possible to use your technique
HONESTLY SAVED MY LIFE WITH THIS VIDEO
Glad it helped you out!
Just ran into this problem on my 07 Odyssey. Was gently trying to pry the coil pack out since it was stuck and it snapped right off flush with the spark plug tube like yours did. I tried putting two long wood screws into it and clamping vise grips across the screws, then prying on them with a 4ft pry bar. I couldn't get it to move at all. I figured it was just stuck to the spark plug somehow, I never thought it would be melted. Figured I might have to replace the spark plug tube if that's even possible. Thank you very much for this video, I already have a map gas torch as I live in the Ontario rust belt, everything here needs heat if you don't want to snap bolts taking things apart lol.
Hope it helps you out. It’s caused by a leaking oil tube seal and the oil “pools” up in the tube and “cooks” the coil pack.
Thanks for the response, I was doing this job to adjust valve lash but I bought all new valve cover gaskets too, the rear valve cover looks a little wet so I suspected something was up, I guess it really needs them!
Any idea if the melted coil would cause this problem: If I try to pass on the highway by flooring it, once the rpm gets high enough the van acts as if the fuel is being cut for a moment and then comes back over and over again until I let off the gas. It feels like the whole van is bucking and you loose power enough that you can't accelerate until you let off the gas.
Did you have a check engine light before you noticed the coil pack was broken?
Exact same thing happened to us yesterday. ON THE BACK SIDE!! on an 07 Odyssey i purchased less than 3 days ago. 😭
Gonna try this somehow. God be with us.
How did it go for you? My #1 cylinder pack is stuck in and won't budge. It's all in one piece so far but it's so stuck that prying it up is breaking pieces of the coil pack off
@@scottbaker240 we got it out! It was a pain in the azz for sure. Sprayed a little pb blaster around it. Just kept working it little by little with a wrench. It finally gave. Then the little rubber boot was stuck inside too. Had to fish that out with a coat hanger. Another pain in the azz. But after that we replaced coil pack and been running smooth.
started one last night top of pack was getting beat up so i finish that off thinking id get it but nope looks like ill be doing the same thing THANK YOU SIR for the way out ill give that a shot
Man. I'm dealing with that rn. On #4. Helped me se I didn't have to take the intake off.. Thanks great video, 👌
I just had the exact same thing happen in a 2007 Honda Odyssey. Honestly, without this video I would have been lost. Thank you so much! I followed exactly as you showed and was able to remove the broken coil pack. I will say applying heat to the bottom of the tube was the most effective. Pulling actually didn't help as it was literally welded in there. Once you get the heat high enough the plug push out. Again, thank you!
You are welcome. What I figured out later was that the oil tube seals at the top of the valve cover (on the inside) were cracked and leaking. Over time the spark plug tube filled with oil and the oil ended up "boiling" the coil pack. Like an egg in a pot that you are trying to hard boil. So it cooked the coil pack in place. So my advice to you is to pull both valve covers and replace the valve cover gaskets and oil tube seals with a quality gasket. Mahle or Beck Arnley. Stay away from fel Pro for the valve cover gaskets, I have had multiple issues with them. Hope this helps.
@@bundysgarage Just as a follow up I was able to get most of the boot out with heat. However, I still had 2 inches stuck down inside around the spark plug. The boot and some plastic separated. I tried heating a spark plug socket red hot and dropping it in there hoping to melt my way down to the plug....no luck. I heated the lower part of the tube with no success. I finally got a 1/4" wood chisel and cut the handle down to fit the tight area and slowly chipped around the plug. Used a vacuum to get the chips out periodically. Oh, I also ground some teeth into a spark plug socket and put it on a drill with a swivel bit trying to cut my way down to the plug....that didn't work. Eventually, the chisel and patience got enough of the pieces out where I could get a socket around the plug. It came out. I rigged up a long tube to the vacuum and inserted it into the cylinder to hopefully get any pieces that fell down. Then, I put the valve cover and intake back on. Started the motor without the plug in that cylinder. The compression should blow any pieces out that were left behind. It's been running just fine since then. What a nightmare! I was almost thinking a mechanic was going to have to take the head off.
It sure feels good when your able to do it yourself! Thanks for sharing and glad you were able to get the spark plug out. Great tip on starting the motor without the plug to get out any debris. Good job!!!
Same here 07 Odyssey. I am praying we get it out in one piece. Bought the car 3 days ago. No warranty. Im scared to death.
I have two broken coil packs. Those things are stuck lie chuck. Thanks for the video. This is frustrating. I'm going to take off cover when I get home from work and have at it again. Thanks again
Let us know how it goes. I know it can be a huge pain!
BundysGarage man, it's been a test on my patience for sure. So I had a coipack broke on cylinder 5, cylinder 2 and 3. That's right in the back. 🤯. I still have one left to pull out. I went ahead and pulled off intake and valve covers also to make it easier and I wanted to see how the car was maintained. I was surprised to see that it was very very clean under them covers. Thanks for your help Buddy and mostly for replying. I Apreciate your videos and knowledge. Your a big help. I'll post sum pics. God bless
Thank you for sharing I hope I never have to run into this problem but if I do at least I have a little idea of what I can do about it
i had same problem i grabbed i pointed thin knife hammered into the broken coil pack as soft as i could while still digging the knife in enough to get leverage and pull it out ! good luck
WHAT A PAIN!! I feel for ya man. Kudos to you for having patience. Yeah, I'd get confused on all that too. ;) Great work!
Thanks. It was a little nerve racking thinking I might have to pull off the head.
Thanks for the info still can't find much on these engines. I got 10 TSX 3.5 and it melted in cylinder 1 on the backside so I don't want to torch it due to the wires. The reason it melted is either an open in the signal wire or short to ground. My car was started and shut off. The key switch was left on and it melted the coil while checking the codes
Most likely it melted because the spark plug tube seal cracked and let oil in. The tube filled with oil and cooked the coil or you have some cheap coils in there. Stay with Denso or Hitachi coils.
This just happened to me with my 07' Honda odyssey touring. It was cylinder #4. It took a few days and only a couple hours after work to get it free. Used some pb-blaster and some small flat heads, needle nose vise grips and trying to free it up. Long story short I was able to get it free and out by drilling a hole through it using an extension on a drill and impact drill bits. Grabbed my long needle nose pliers and was able to get it free with a couple good pulls without taking the valve cover off.
Get as much of the copper wiring out as you can of the old coil which will help free it up. Get all the plastic from around the hole, spray lube really helped once I was able to make some room between the broken coil and the spark plug tube hole. Most importantly take your time and come back to it if you have to.
Make sure you don’t have oil down in the spark plug tube. That’s what “cooks” the coil packs and they swell up. Causing them to get stuck. If yo do have oil down there make sure you replace the valve cover gaskets and the oil tube seals. You don’t want to cool another coil pack. Or if it’s just gone bad and you have been driving around with a check engine light on.
This is the video I was looking for I’m going thru this same problem right now on my 04 TL and been trying to figure out how I’m gonna pull it out glad I found this cause like you said you can’t find anything else but stuck packs or broken what’s crazy is mine is in the same cylinder don’t understand how it even happened the last owner ain’t really do anything to the car I’ve been dealing with problem after problem
Wow i have never seen that I have a Honda Odyssey and I hope 🤞 this will never happen to me. Thanks for sharing your experience well appreciated now we now what steps to take thanks to you great 👍 job keep up the good work you do.
I've got a 2005 Odyssey. This exact thing happened to me while driving down the highway at 70+mph! Coil on #5 just blew up/melted! No one I approached for help had ever seen anything like it. Ended up having to re-thread the spark plug hole (the plug fried as well). The more I check into it, the more I discover that this is not as rare as one might think, especially with these vTech engines. Do you know what causes it? I used to think Honda was the Primo vehicle. But, I've had so many problems with this '05 Odyssey and an '09 Pilot that I'm now looking at NOT buying a 2018 CRV due to similar engine problems. I guess Toyota is going to have to be my next go to.
Fortunately I was able to unstick it by using WD 40. Unfortunately removal dislodged to plug electrode and left the boot gasket. Man I can wait until this is done.
I am so glad this happened on the front.
Right! Can you image the back one. Make sure you check your spark plug tube seals. If they are leaking and causing oil to fill up the spark plug tube, you need to change them or it will happen again. What happens is oil gets in there and cooks the coil pack.
Good job man. Thank you for the advice.
I have the same issue. Unfortunately, it's on the backside of an 05 MDX. I'm curious if you had any issues once the entire coil pack was removed.
Man that sucks! No once the old stuck ignition coil was out it was smooth sailing. Make sure you use a quality coil for replacement. Denso NGK or Hitachi
I had this happen to me but it twisted so how would I know if it’s melted or not ?
Had it happen to me . Unfortunately I didn’t have any long needle pliers so it took forever using long scissors and a flat head screw driver
For my Honda Odyssey 06I was driving and it basically popped out while I was driving on the freeway including the spark plug and it sounded like crap,Anyways got it fixed and when I got my van back I went over 65 on the freeway and it popped out again fixed it again and now the coyle agin is popping out I don’t go over 45 cuz I’m scared it’s gonna pop our like last time idk what to do
Appreciate the video and technique! Im in the same predicament!!
I know your pain?
Are the injection coils the same for all these vehicles?
This happened to our odyssey once. The plug melted causing the entire metal piece of the plug that goes straight through is now in the shape of a C or S making the coil become stuck.
How did you get it out?
@@bundysgarage mechanic did it
I have a 2006 Honda Accord 3.0 V6 (160,000) and it was having a misfire problem. When I talked to the mechanic, he told me that one of my coil packs was melted. I don't think he had to go to as much trouble as you did, but he did have to break it to remove it. I would like to know what caused it to melt. I was having an EGR code and replaced the EGR valve, but apparently the ports need to be cleaned out because I kept getting the code. I have no idea if this had anything to do with it, but as I write this, he is replacing all of the plugs and the coil packs. Got my fingers crossed that nothing else is damaged.
I had this happen today on the back cylinder on my odyssey wish me luck and thanks for your video
Just go slow and work it out. Also make sure you change your spark plug tube seals. It happens when oil is down there and it cooks the ignition coil.
@@bundysgarage thank you I am ordering the new gasket sea kit
i got a 02 honda cr-v... two of the coil packs in cylinder 2 and 3 snapped off half way down the spark plug tube. its not melted on like this but doesnt want to let go of the spark plug any ideas
That sucks dude! I know your pain. Does it move at all? Or are they stuck in the spark plug tube? If it’s not stuck, You can try grabbing it with needle nose or one of those hook tools that has 4 clasps they come out when you push down on the top, it’s real thin and about 25 to 36 inches long.
@@bundysgarage i got them out!! :D 3 days of drilling holes in the porcelain flat head scew driver knocking the plastic edge out peace by peace needle nose pliers channel locks and some leverage thank you bundys garage
I had this problem on my 2003 Odyssey, the number 3 cylinder. Had to remove valve cover, the coil was melted into the tube due to sparkplug working loose. Ugh!
My odyssey had a misfire on #2 went to change coil on the back side cylinder 2.. it melted melted inside spark plug tube and the spark plug was just as bad I would post pictures but it won't let me
We’re you able to get it out?
@@bundysgarage yes I had to use picks,pocket screw drivers I was able to finally get it all out and I blew out the whole so no debris would fall and when I remove the spark plug spark plug was melted and when I got it all back together was not receiving signal on Bank One which is cylinders 1 2 and 3 come to find out I had fried the PCM replaced all spark plugs and the PCM to find out that it still has a misfire on that bank but it is receiving signal now the good chance that a valve got banned or stuck open lost his seat I just have not fooled with its since.
Wonder if freezing it with upside down canned air would harden it and allow it to snap free...has worked on other stuff..never had this exact problem..thank you odyssey gods 😬
I think it would make the spark plug tube tighten down onto the busted coil pack not letting to loose. I heated it to help try to expand the tube as well as melt the plastic of the coil pack.
May i ask what specific map torch you have? I bought one off Amazon,but when i go to tilt it it goes off. Then i relight it and it goes off again when i tilt it.Thank you!
There should be a little screw adjustment at the very end of the tip, where the flame comes out. If that is opened too big, too much air gets in. Also make sure the bottle they sent you is full. You might have to weigh it to see if it’s full.
I'm literally going through the same issue with my 2006 honda pilot. Spark plug and coil pack shot out of cylinder 3 while driving down the road. Someone had cross threaded the spark plug when the replaced it before I owned it. Rethreaded it and replaced coil pack. Now the coil pack is melted in the cylinder.
oh many that looks terrible. going to over to help my son with one today. I hope his is not as bad as what you show.
I just had to do the same thing but on the back side. i used a 1/4 lag bolt and a Milwaukie ratchet drove the bolt in and pried it out. took around 45 min it was flush wioth the tube so no way to get channel locks on it.
He I really like your videos thanks
i just got done drilling half of coil on my 08 tsx lol, that sucker took a while drill beat and vacuum until i hit the bottom and the spark plug coil was only left then i wrenched it out . defi gonna lube it when i put new ones in lol.
Sounds like a pain in the butt!!! At least you got it outz
And what happen if piace of coil like little piece goin inside the spark plug hole ???
You gotta get it out!
I'm currently having this problem. It's down in the tube. It's the bottom of the boot. Any suggestions?
@@bundysgarage I hope you see this
Get an extra long pair of needle nose oilers. Sears use to carry them but they are closed now. You need something like this and I believe Lowe’s sells them:
Crescent X2 Straight Long Nose Dual Material Pliers - PSX200C www.amazon.com/dp/B0091KHK6C/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_44I6EbWFZZR8B
What a pain. Good to know if this happens to me. Im still waiting on the 1995 honda odyssey head.
Where did you send your head for resurfacing? Russia? The machine shop I use can have it back to me in a day if I tell my machine guy it's a rush job, cash and a cold 12 pack go a long way with machine shops!
😩 I just had this happen to the back one and it's just the last inch of the coil pack that broke. sounds like the head has to come off. I think we are just going to junk this car cuz it has other issues too
Had a bit of luck with a lug nut removal tool , it is a Pain in the butt, but you can use a set of vise grips to tap it in place. Using a wrench on the outside of the socket to remove.
mine is stuck one cylinder 3, I feel like its not coming out! SMH
Same, mine stuck in cylinder 4, I tried crazy glue but it literally just ripped the coil more....
@@jaysmechs2457 added some wd-40, ran the engine and the coil flew out of the cylinder with the the spark plug. I've go no threads. SMH!
You could helicoil the spark plug threads
@@bundysgarage I tried using the fix a thread kit. When I use the tool to make the new threads for the insert, it grabs slightly and then gets loose. I don't want to screw this up, thinking of removing the head so I can get a better chance at repairing this.
Man that’s a bummer. Well if you need help taking the head off I have some videos on how to do it. And if you need more help we can jump on a phone call and I’ll help you out as much as I can.
Should of put a moist rag on the lower part of the tube so it only heats up the tube
Yeah I have 3 packs like this on a 2001 Jeep Cherokee 4.7 and my problem is they are in the back 🤬 I'll have to try this method. Really sucks!! Bought the Jeep and the previous owner never mentioned it, but I seen they did try to remove it.
It sucks when previous owners don’t tell you everything that’s wrong with the car. But then they are trying to get the most for their vehicle. So it’s a catch 22. Good luck in those coils.
How did you do it in your jeep? I'm having the same problem with my 4.7 in my durango.
@@Moparman58 I actually used a Dremel with a drill bit and screwed a screw into one, but then didn't work on the rest. So I Dremeled around the center and used the needle nose vise grip to pull it out. Jeeps running great now with some new fuel injectors too. I hope this helps cause I was so close to calling it quits.
Oh and with the Dremel I just kept poking holes around the center and twisted back and forth while pulling up slowly.
I have this problem on my 2011 Honda Odyssey. Rear passengers side. I'm 😢
thanks for the info. man! there is no info on these anyware and mine is in the back =\
Right, all the info is on Ford's losing spark plugs. Keep us posted on what happens.
3:32 you didn’t wanna what??
Used my wife's ear camera and ice pick and picked all of it out
Really helpful just happened to me
All my rubber boots on my coils were melted on my Honda Fit
Mine is on the backside of the motor🤦♂️. I dread it. The last 2 inches of the coil is melted
You can do it!!! Just take your time and work it out slowly.
Mine is on the rear bank on my Odyssey. Grrrrr.
My coil pack head pulled off. I had to take off the intake manifold and rear valve cover. Then used a propane torch to heat the spark plug tube (top and bottom, both sides). Much smoking from the coil pack but no fire. I was able to use needle nose vice grips to clamp onto a metal core in the coil. Initially could not move it at all, had to apply a lot of heat, then suddenly it released. I had the additional problem of the plug being held in with JB weld, which failed. Plug is out and it's either insert a thread or junk the car. (It's 210,000 miles and rusty)
Which bank do you think mine broke at?🤬🤬🤬 if you remove the valve cover couldn't you just remove the spark plug tube with the coil in it? Figured it be easier to grip.
Thank you for sharing
i went to pull cylinder 10 coil out of an 08 BMW M5 and it snapped right at the head. h e l p
Sorry I don’t have any experience with BMW’s
Mines stuck on the back side... FML
What part of the cool got the hottest? (MELT)
What happens is the oil tube seal(s) fail and the tube that the coil pack sits in fills with oil. As the engine warms up and get hot it boils the oil, thus “cooking” the coil pack. A high quality coil pack, Hitachi or Denso, won’t cook like that unless it’s sitting in oil. As far as cheap coil packs, they can do all sort of funny things but usually you will see a misfire first, if ignored it will cause the coil to heat up and swell and fail.
@@bundysgarage mines still stuck. It wiggles rotates a couple mm. I heated with heat gun but removing valve cover is above my paygrade
I have a 2003 Honda odyssey had a spark plug blowout of the head first time having a Honda odyssey and it was in the back boy that was fun
That sounds awful!
It was but when you have the right tool I got the job done so now the van runs perfectly and it has 208,000 miles on it oh my gosh
I know spark plugs blow out a log on Ford 5.4L’s. Have not heard that happening on a J Series V6. Did you have to helicoil the head?
BundysGarage No I had something different I had to get something different It had all the extensions on it to reach down inside the hole
🤦 this is my problem on cylinder #3...backside of my 3.2L V6 on my '05 Acura TL....lol fml
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What the hell are you saying!
I have a f150 do this
Ford sucks Bro!
Not his video whole experence