Waldner"s level of anticipation, blocking, placing... His ability to adapt to the moments of the game... You can see how he changed to put pressure on Liu with his backhand on the 3rd set when Liu was trying to corner him in there... It"s unbelievable how he counter attacks as well... No words, just GOAT.
I would like to add some background information behind this game: 1. In year 2000, ITTF decided to change the ball size from 38mm to 40mm. This brought a huge change to the game, especially the decreasing of the ball speed and spin. The biggest weapons of Liu were attacking speed, and serving spin. Therefore, the ball size changing totally ruined Liu's play style. If you check old video before the ball size changing, Waldner was really hard to win Liu even once. 2. In year 2000, another big thing happened on Liu. Liu got detected using Doping by mistake. This was a huge shock to him, and he tried very hard to finally prove that it was a wrong detection. However, during the appeal period, Liu couldn't join normal training anymore. I think it was a miracle for Liu to get 3rd place in 2000 olympic games. No question that both of Waldner and Liu are legendary players in TT history, and they are competitors with each other.
@@biyu19850822 That's not the whole story.During Waldner's time the Chinese didn't play in non Grand slam tournaments to keep the Europeans unfamiliar with their style.Kong Linghui was one of the first players to play in Europe but he didn't play 3rd ball attack at all.According to Liu by the 2000 Olympics Waldner learned how to read his serves.Once Waldner figured Liu's serves out it was game over for Liu.The change to 40mm didn't hurt Liu so much cause he never played with spin;short pips do not produce much spin.On the contrary,it made his backhand side less vulnerable.Liu was a one trick pony. That's why the Chinese steered away from his style coping the shakehand game of the Europeans with Kong Linghui,Zhang Zike and co.
@@dickn.ormous1064 So it took Waldner 5 years and dozens of matches being destroyed by prime Liu to only figure out how to return none-prime Liu's serve? Great achievement no doubt about it :)
@@sanyasyniushkevych1868 Liu didn't have a prime as his style was solely based on his serve and return of serve,his rally skills were always subpar.Besides,in 2000 he was only 24.He simply had a very limited style and couldn't adapt once Waldner improved his return.It didn't take Waldner dozens of matches to beat him.From '92 to '99 they only played 5 times.Their head to head is 5-4.Beating a much younger player is not a small feat.
@@dickn.ormous1064 Give me a link to the official statistics of their head to head. What you say is a complete bullshit. Waldner has only two victories over Liu and both are in 2000. Link please.
like many of those decades that was 80-90ths great performers for sweden, not just in table tennis but many other sports, like fotball, with the third Place for sweden in World cup in 94 :D, handball and various players in the Olympics :), nowdays i rarely Watch much Swedish sport, national or international, i will prob Watch the fotball games, since sweden made it vs italy :D, those few persons that just were truly something else, like Waldner that is still a legend in china :D
That's because he didn't play washed up veterans in the semis like Ma Long/Zhang Jike did and run out of fume against a younger opponent who used to own.
Would have loved to see liu play waldner with a real bat.His long pimples were a clear advantage at that time and were soon completely banned by ittf, obviously.
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Waldner"s level of anticipation, blocking, placing... His ability to adapt to the moments of the game... You can see how he changed to put pressure on Liu with his backhand on the 3rd set when Liu was trying to corner him in there... It"s unbelievable how he counter attacks as well... No words, just GOAT.
I would like to add some background information behind this game:
1. In year 2000, ITTF decided to change the ball size from 38mm to 40mm. This brought a huge change to the game, especially the decreasing of the ball speed and spin. The biggest weapons of Liu were attacking speed, and serving spin. Therefore, the ball size changing totally ruined Liu's play style. If you check old video before the ball size changing, Waldner was really hard to win Liu even once.
2. In year 2000, another big thing happened on Liu. Liu got detected using Doping by mistake. This was a huge shock to him, and he tried very hard to finally prove that it was a wrong detection. However, during the appeal period, Liu couldn't join normal training anymore.
I think it was a miracle for Liu to get 3rd place in 2000 olympic games. No question that both of Waldner and Liu are legendary players in TT history, and they are competitors with each other.
@@biyu19850822 That's not the whole story.During Waldner's time the Chinese didn't play in non Grand slam tournaments to keep the Europeans unfamiliar with their style.Kong Linghui was one of the first players to play in Europe but he didn't play 3rd ball attack at all.According to Liu by the 2000 Olympics Waldner learned how to read his serves.Once Waldner figured Liu's serves out it was game over for Liu.The change to 40mm didn't hurt Liu so much cause he never played with spin;short pips do not produce much spin.On the contrary,it made his backhand side less vulnerable.Liu was a one trick pony. That's why the Chinese steered away from his style coping the shakehand game of the Europeans with Kong Linghui,Zhang Zike and co.
@@dickn.ormous1064 So it took Waldner 5 years and dozens of matches being destroyed by prime Liu to only figure out how to return none-prime Liu's serve? Great achievement no doubt about it :)
@@sanyasyniushkevych1868 Liu didn't have a prime as his style was solely based on his serve and return of serve,his rally skills were always subpar.Besides,in 2000 he was only 24.He simply had a very limited style and couldn't adapt once Waldner improved his return.It didn't take Waldner dozens of matches to beat him.From '92 to '99 they only played 5 times.Their head to head is 5-4.Beating a much younger player is not a small feat.
@@dickn.ormous1064 Give me a link to the official statistics of their head to head. What you say is a complete bullshit. Waldner has only two victories over Liu and both are in 2000. Link please.
Thanks a lot for this video! Nowadays is very difficult to find the matches of those years
What a great player he is.
Waldner was born only once..he was unparallel during his time...the time has changed now...
Most people are born only once. In my experience.
2020 ? anyone?
Me
2022
2023
2024
2024 😊
Amazing!! So cool of Waldner ✌️
懐かしいｗサーブは５本ごとに交替。２１点先取の時代。
great match
Walter a fait revivre la Chine et a fait son test dans le jeu de ping-pong permanent
we have Ma Long The Goat, but we had Waldner The Goat back then.
請問劉教練應否開中間短而弱的下旋球？似乎開勁球力掽對手，但無威脅性。
老瓦会搓到他反手底线
발트너.
부드러운 공격의 대가.
탁구의 미학을 보여준
진정한 황제.
Awesome Waldi
Thats why he's the GOAT! The GOAT!!!!
Ma Long is laughing.😂😂
@@lucashamilton151Wang Hao is laughing.
@@lucashamilton151Ma Long is a nobody compared to Waldner.Once he retires no one will remember him.
@@lucashamilton151Ma Long the goat for beating Mizutani and injured Zhang Jike.
Один из лучших матчей великого Валднера.
now ,this chinese man is coach of Ma Long , Zhang Ji Ke, Xu Xin.
Please correct the name, it is LIU, with "L" (not "R").
Leonardo Rozas Villegas
I'm sorry, I will correct it.
Thanks!
Leonardo Rozas Villegas But isn't it an "L" for a chinese?
Wolfgang Szlezak yes, that's why I asked the video publisher to change the wrong "R" for "L".
it's not Riu... it's Riu ❗
(Lol... think 'TheCraw' ... from Get Smart)
Very impress
あのワルドナーと互角にやり合ってたなんて、やっぱただもんじゃないな。選手に尊敬されるだけある。
互角も何もワルドナーが一番苦手にしてた選手だよ
great ^^
Waldner is the GOAT
like many of those decades that was 80-90ths great performers for sweden, not just in table tennis but many other sports, like fotball, with the third Place for sweden in World cup in 94 :D, handball and various players in the Olympics :), nowdays i rarely Watch much Swedish sport, national or international, i will prob Watch the fotball games, since sweden made it vs italy :D, those few persons that just were truly something else, like Waldner that is still a legend in china :D
+Elchupanibres
he makes million kronor every year by doing business with China
OK and your Point being??
2021
Нравится прическа Лю Гоу Ляна
グォリャン監督は頭まで表ソフトやったんか...
これっていまのかんとく？
インナーフォース ALF そうですよ
TT Japan せんきゅー
After this lost ,he trained national chinese team to take his revenage ,and revenage still works!
2004 Olympics Waldner met Ma Lin with Liu as the coach and Walder beat Ma.
Yes. Revenage, with no ragrets.
Right after this game, I believe his teammate avenged him in the final.
Jiarui Yan Yes, Kong beat Waldner in the final.
ahh yes, revenage
Валднер просто уничтожил этого китайца и правильно сделал здесь Ян понял как надо с ним играть.
uben vast!
China humbled again by waldner
That was 20 years ago
@@lifetravelessentialbtw kong linghui defeated waldner in the finals.
@@lifetravelessential'It was 20 years ago tday!..Sargeant Pepper taught the band to play!..They were going in 'n out of style'...
2023 anyone?
Waldner got beat by Kong Linghui, can't be considered a GOAT.
That's because he didn't play washed up veterans in the semis like Ma Long/Zhang Jike did and run out of fume against a younger opponent who used to own.
Would have loved to see liu play waldner with a real bat.His long pimples were a clear advantage at that time and were soon completely banned by ittf, obviously.
I don’t think the rubber was banned… there was only a change in serve rules, rules of a set and the ball