That last point is heartbreaking. For Waldner of all people, who has toughed his way through so many difficult opponents by staying cool, to lose like that. 😢😮
Nothing heartbreaking,he won his medals in the past.Of course with the new rules he probably wouldn't have to play two Chinese to get a medal. That's why the Olympics after 2008 don't have the same difficulty.I mean Zhang Jike got a silver for just beating a 40 yo Samsonov.
@@tomspice73 The Olympics is a prestigious event because a player represents his country. But the Olympics does not include most of the world's best players. Each country represents by 2 of their best players, not necessarily the top players in the world. While the WTTC traditionally determines who will be the #1 rank player in the world. This is because all the best players in the world will compete and try to win this tournament, the toughest TT competition, once every 2 years. Wang Liqin is one of 3 players who won 3 WTTC Singles since the 1950s. I would say even Ma Long will have trouble winning against a peak Wang Liqin.
I agree. World championship is the most difficult tournament. Olympics is diluted because only 2 or 3 are allowed per country. Wlq winning 3 wttc is amazing. He is the only player that could beat ma long or Zhang jike at their peak
@@TableTennisHero I believe a peak Ma Lin would be able to beat them both. But we can't prove that unless we can manipulate time. In the 40mm era, the achievements of Wang Liqin and Ma Lin were just as good as over-achiever Zhang Jike and the Great Ma Long. But Wang Liqin was not as good as Ma Lin or Waldner when they were in the 38mm ball era. The 40mm ball has a lower angular velocity. That somewhat took away the effectiveness of both Waldner and Ma Lin's serves.
Perfect games with speed and imagination !!! Its very sad that they made the balls plastic... Table tennis lost 30 years of technic evolution with this plastic non spin brick that replaced celluloid at 2013
he didnt do that for respect. he wanted to check the flight path because he missed the serve. probably wanted to check if there was any wind or the ball was dented or something. whatever it was he lost and i agree he is legendary!
voltei no tempo agora quando joguei exatamente neste lugar nas Paraolimpíadas em 2004 contra adversários poderosos...como o Chinês Ping au Pong ...um espanhol número 4 do mundo na época e outros mais....
mola alınca devamını waldner alacak zannettim ( videonun bitmesine daha vardı ) adam gitti servis kaçırdı : ) harbi şaşırdım,,, bu spor gerçekten çok tuhaf sürprizler barındırıyor.
I think this was the match when someone had aimed a laser at Jan to temporarily blind him. DIRTY PLAY FROM THE AUDIENCE 👎🏼 But Waldner is awesome 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Waldner in his prime and in form was pretty much unplayable. Waldner is the goat with the old ball. Ma Long is the goat with the new ball. Tabletennis was funnier with the old ball. Could switch up the game and Waldner was the master at it. Nowadays it's all about who is the best robot.
Waldner certainly was not "unplayable", he in fact had a losing track record against top Chinese players even before 2000. But he was a very clutch player and can perform in big events. He is considered by many as the Goat due to that and his longevity (e.g. WTTC 1989, 1997 and of course the 2004 Olympics run).
@@afmirror01In fact he was 7-3 against Kong Linghui and owned players that beat the Chinese like Gatien and Kim Taek Soo.He was the most consistent players of the 90's.
j'ai eu l'occasion également de battre Waldner, ce fut en 1988, dans un camping de la cote d'Azur.Il était à 2,5 grammes et moi à 3 grammes. N'empêche, je lui ai donné une leçon avec mes services type"revers vrillé"... après on a rigoulé
Wang Liqin has defeated Waldner... but,, where's Wang Liqin now ? is there any update ? btw, i respect Wang Liqin that plays all out.. congratulation..
Waldner beats all the top chinese players with ease, and that means the best players in the world. But he usually have a hard time against any other countries players. It's a little weird
Pontus Schroder I know that, and that’s why it’s ridiculous because all his serves are false and the one of wang liqin are more « legal » than waldner’s
@@DizXBear Waldner had one of the most legal serves after the new rules were imposed, he immediately placed his left hand on his hip after tossing the ball.Wang Liqin served with his back facing the opponent,Ma Lin also cheated with his serve.
Chinese are always admiring Swedish players like Waldner and Persson while Swedish people insulting Chinese players with arrogance. That's the difference between a Empire with 5 thousand years of history and uncivilized Viking pirates.
![2015 WTTC (MD-R32) MA Long / Timo BOLL - XU Xin / ZHANG Jike [HD] [Full Match/Chinese]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/iMJdgTvSO30/mqdefault.jpg)
That last point is heartbreaking. For Waldner of all people, who has toughed his way through so many difficult opponents by staying cool, to lose like that. 😢😮
Nothing heartbreaking,he won his medals in the past.Of course with the new rules he probably wouldn't have to play two Chinese to get a medal.
That's why the Olympics after 2008 don't have the same difficulty.I mean Zhang Jike got a silver for just beating a 40 yo Samsonov.
its sad watching that last serve fault!
Spoiler alert!
Right... but always like.jo.service
Wang Liqin is one of the best TT players ever. With 3 WTTC Single Titles, his record clearly indicates his position in TT hierarchy.
I love hím, too. Bút the most important title. Is missing. Olympic champion. Waldner, Kong, guoliang and Long have it
@@tomspice73
The Olympics is a prestigious event because a player represents his country. But the Olympics does not include most of the world's best players. Each country represents by 2 of their best players, not necessarily the top players in the world. While the WTTC traditionally determines who will be the #1 rank player in the world. This is because all the best players in the world will compete and try to win this tournament, the toughest TT competition, once every 2 years.
Wang Liqin is one of 3 players who won 3 WTTC Singles since the 1950s. I would say even Ma Long will have trouble winning against a peak Wang Liqin.
I agree. World championship is the most difficult tournament. Olympics is diluted because only 2 or 3 are allowed per country. Wlq winning 3 wttc is amazing. He is the only player that could beat ma long or Zhang jike at their peak
absolutely he is one of the best
@@TableTennisHero
I believe a peak Ma Lin would be able to beat them both. But we can't prove that unless we can manipulate time. In the 40mm era, the achievements of Wang Liqin and Ma Lin were just as good as over-achiever Zhang Jike and the Great Ma Long. But Wang Liqin was not as good as Ma Lin or Waldner when they were in the 38mm ball era. The 40mm ball has a lower angular velocity. That somewhat took away the effectiveness of both Waldner and Ma Lin's serves.
Missing the last serve and still looks like a winner, LEGEND
Except he lost... If you think his facial expression at the end was that of a winner, oh man you must be a total underachiever.
Perfect games with speed and imagination !!! Its very sad that they made the balls plastic... Table tennis lost 30 years of technic evolution with this plastic non spin brick that replaced celluloid at 2013
4:27 - WTF
to lift up the ball to end his career as a respect for the tabletennis sport means just one word : LEGENDARY
he didnt do that for respect. he wanted to check the flight path because he missed the serve. probably wanted to check if there was any wind or the ball was dented or something. whatever it was he lost and i agree he is legendary!
ha
Lol 😂. ....this is the proof....we still have ppl who can say any act as legend act😂
@@horodomiltd7346 yes
@@sandysun8520 Body Language is hard to understand.You need to level up your intellectual mindset.
I admire Waldner's game! what concentration, precision of the shots. improvisation!
Especially his last serve...
voltei no tempo agora quando joguei exatamente neste lugar nas Paraolimpíadas em 2004 contra adversários poderosos...como o Chinês Ping au Pong ...um espanhol número 4 do mundo na época e outros mais....
J-O Waldner, The Mozart and The Ever Green Tree
He lost to Wang Liqin, one of the all time greats. Nothing to regret
Incredible match point !
Thats how the timeout work I guess...psychology game...
Breaks the rhythm and flow, at the very least.
Every European would be happy and excited to win a bronze medal at the Olympics. Wang Liqin just walked away sadly and without joy.
Legend
China lost 2 medals to Waldner that's why.
38歳でマリン、ボル倒してここまで来ることが伝説。
1:00 から試合
sweden 2004, they send old man to become player and young man to become coach. The young Man should feel ashamed.😅 LOL.
Jan-Ove is Best Ever. Finland says.
WHAT A MATCH!
J-O KING OF SWEDEN!
Fattade inte slutet,hade kineserna slut med ögontejp?
king of world
ワルドナーが審判に話しかけてたのってフラッシュかな？
mola alınca devamını waldner alacak zannettim ( videonun bitmesine daha vardı ) adam gitti servis kaçırdı : ) harbi şaşırdım,,, bu spor gerçekten çok tuhaf sürprizler barındırıyor.
I think this was the match when someone had aimed a laser at Jan to temporarily blind him. DIRTY PLAY FROM THE AUDIENCE 👎🏼 But Waldner is awesome 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
ワルドナーは1965年生まれ
当時38歳だったのか
私も頑張ろう
What happened in 3.15 did opponent supporter flash laser to make waldner blind, this how they won then.....hilarious
no tenial que a ver permitido al chino la parada tecnica, hizo trampa
Waldner in his prime and in form was pretty much unplayable.
Waldner is the goat with the old ball.
Ma Long is the goat with the new ball.
Tabletennis was funnier with the old ball. Could switch up the game and Waldner was the master at it. Nowadays it's all about who is the best robot.
But Ma Long's prime should occur in the celluloid era,he was third wheel till the age of 27 which is ancient by Chinese standards.
J-O Waldner, The Mozart and The Ever Green Tree
Waldner was good before 2000 when less countries competed, but was uncompetitive after 2000 against so many Chinese greats.
Waldner certainly was not "unplayable", he in fact had a losing track record against top Chinese players even before 2000. But he was a very clutch player and can perform in big events. He is considered by many as the Goat due to that and his longevity (e.g. WTTC 1989, 1997 and of course the 2004 Olympics run).
@@afmirror01In fact he was 7-3 against Kong Linghui and owned players that beat the Chinese like Gatien and Kim Taek Soo.He was the most consistent players of the 90's.
j'ai eu l'occasion également de battre Waldner, ce fut en 1988, dans un camping de la cote d'Azur.Il était à 2,5 grammes et moi à 3 grammes. N'empêche, je lui ai donné une leçon avec mes services type"revers vrillé"... après on a rigoulé
I like jo w always
вот если бы Ян подал подачу. был бы ком бэк ...
Hmmm, Waldner did win this but from what this video shows you would think the other dude won.
Wang Liqin has defeated Waldner... but,, where's Wang Liqin now ? is there any update ?
btw, i respect Wang Liqin that plays all out.. congratulation..
he's a consultant to the chinese team now
Liqin retired around 2014
@@suddenlee2336 what type of consultant.
He's the president of Shanghai Center of Table Tennis and Badminton right now
Whoever played better won.
Windy conditions, someone must have left a window open
Most likely strong air conditioning to blame.
AGT0M Most likely he just missed it himself and no one to blame
@@ongnarukami4451 Nope,there was a problem with the air-conditioning, Schlager said so.
@@dickn.ormous1064 agreed...but wlq played better that day and deserved win.
@@pingpong9005 He played OK but he never performed really well at the Olympics.
Duelo entre leyendas.... me hace acordar a Espartaco vs Teocles.
ワルドナーのストップうますぎやろw
Good game GUys!
7:24 XD
あれ？ユスンミンに負けたような気がしたんだが
３位決定戦ですね
no se le debería haber dejado parar el.partido al chino
最後あせったな
Those who say Waldner is the GOAT are either biased or delusional.
Ma long is the GOAT.
For beating minnows like Mizutani,Ovtcharov and injured Zhang Jike.
Waldner beats all the top chinese players with ease, and that means the best players in the world. But he usually have a hard time against any other countries players. It's a little weird
Waldner joked about communism
Cause Europeans are taller with better defence/backhand than Asians.
Actually he couldn't beat any of the Chinese greats after 2000.
@@mrhdebater1607 Fake news alert!
If waldner complained about the serve then it’s so stupid from him because he got far in table tennis only because he has a false serve
BearPlays There were other serve rules at that time
Pontus Schroder I know that, and that’s why it’s ridiculous because all his serves are false and the one of wang liqin are more « legal » than waldner’s
Waldner benefitted from hidden serve
@@DizXBear Waldner had one of the most legal serves after the new rules were imposed, he immediately placed his left hand on his hip after tossing the ball.Wang Liqin served with his back facing the opponent,Ma Lin also cheated with his serve.
Only jealous on Waldner...
WALDNER DONT LIKE SCREEEMING CHINIESE WITHOUT TEJP
WHO HOLD UP THEIR EYES!
Swinglish showing its dumb side again
@@jonathanmellqvist2 Kommentera då ej din höna.
Hela käften full med Pride!
Chinese are always admiring Swedish players like Waldner and Persson while Swedish people insulting Chinese players with arrogance. That's the difference between a Empire with 5 thousand years of history and uncivilized Viking pirates.