2 PC STREAM MASTERCLASS - Capture Cards, NDI, Aaalllll The Video Things

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  • I'VE MOVED FROM TWITCH TO TH-cam LIVE ►► / harrisheller
    Setting up a 2 PC stream isn't actually that difficult.. if you know what you're doing. Here is the first bit in my masterclass on setting up a 2 PC setup.
    EDIT: It's been about 9 months since I stopped using NDI and I had someone come into my Twitch chat to inform me there has been a MASSIVE change. You no longer need to have OBS installed on your gaming PC to run this. Thanks, @NerfedRogue, for helping me give people more accurate help. I'll be doing some serious tests of my own and releasing a full video on it soon.
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ความคิดเห็น • 711

  • @Senpai
    @Senpai  5 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    What questions do you have for future 2 PC setup videos?

    • @louie8604
      @louie8604 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Could it be for gaming?

    • @sparks1213
      @sparks1213 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Is there a way to use 2 pcs, one pc tower, one gaming laptop, with a capture card?

    • @OutlawScotty
      @OutlawScotty 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Question. Is a dual pc (saying gaming pc 9900k and streaming pc 2700x) better than...saying using the future AMD 16 core 3950x with a 2080ti?
      BTW; big fan on TH-cam/Twitter/Twitch. Keep it up!

    • @thomaskuzma1054
      @thomaskuzma1054 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      If i have a 60fps capture card will my monitor still run at 144hz?

    • @SkaterkingJOF
      @SkaterkingJOF 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Different Audio set ups. I know you said there is a video to come. But that is important to me after watching this. - AZnSlickSlaya

  • @KristoferYee
    @KristoferYee 5 ปีที่แล้ว +108

    You're getting a lot better at this, it's fun to watch.

    • @OG_Zero_Cool
      @OG_Zero_Cool 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just found your comment, love you @Kristoferyee!! 😁

    • @vkuani
      @vkuani 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreeeeeed

    • @DerbyMods
      @DerbyMods 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Kris!

  • @DG-america
    @DG-america 5 ปีที่แล้ว +119

    I wish someone would do a tutorial series of start to finish listing their builds, to cable routing from PC to PC and PC to monitors, then to setup, to audio setup for a final result.
    Videos like this are all over TH-cam, but they all lack the necessary details.

    • @StevenTheGeek
      @StevenTheGeek 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Because cable routing is either a non event or a nightmare depending on how you go. Everybodies setup will be different depending on Monitors, Capture cards and mixers used.

    • @DG-america
      @DG-america 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@StevenTheGeek
      A 2 pc setup is going to be set up the same for the most part. Monitors are monitors. Capture cards are either pcie or inline. How is it all wired together is what I want a tutorial on. What's it matter whether they use a GoXLR, or a usb mixer? It may wire slightly different, but it still has to be on one of the PC, and connected to the other one somehow too. Choice of peripherals doesnt matter.

    • @StevenTheGeek
      @StevenTheGeek 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not really, here are 3. I use Turing nvenc and a lightweight overlay. This means my stream PC is 85% idle. So I have my GoXLR, discord, TH-cam etc on my stream pc and my game pc has nothing installed except games. I literally have 4 wires: mic to goxlr, GoXLR to streamPC usb, game pc hdmi to capture card in (in stream pc), capture card out to gaming Monitor. Simple but my stream PC has to be always on.
      This is not how most 2 PCs are setup, most put the GoXLR on the main pc so they can power down the stream Pc when not recording or streaming. They have to link the GoXLR audio out to streamPC sound card audio in.
      Harris’s is more complicated because he can stream an overlay to twitch while also capturing clean gaming direct on his gaming PC without overlay and Mic. So he has 2 GoXLRs (1 to each pc), wiring to join them together.
      So you see already we have 3 sets of wiring. I just see the video being 30- minutes long, but people seem to get bored after 10.

    • @kaycee___
      @kaycee___ 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      StevenTheGeek do you plug your headphone/speaker to your stream PC with this setup?

    • @Infostalgaming
      @Infostalgaming 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@StevenTheGeek i dont think he actually asked you to answer he was asking the youtuber

  • @TheDropshotPodcast
    @TheDropshotPodcast 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Harris I'm a huge fan, but I use NDI and have none of the issues you've mentioned. For the asynchronous audio-to-video, all you have to do is apply a simple NDI filter to your desktop audio and mic audio from your gaming PC, and they will then be synced up perfectly. Additionally, NDI is made to be used with an Ethernet switch - a 1 gigabit switch is sufficient, and costs around 15 bucks.
    I use a 240hz gaming monitor, and only the most expensive capture cards are capable of this passthrough; with NDI, this isn't an issue at all. Thus for me, it was either a 15 dollar switch or a couple hundred dollar capture card. My video quality also does not suffer (which is to say, is no worse) compared to using a capture card, making that decision a no-brainer. As long as your internet is of good quality (which it needs to be if you're streaming regardless of your setup), NDI has no downsides whatsoever if configured properly.

    • @KRysGamingYT
      @KRysGamingYT 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Very much this. Most people don't realize the choppiness and loss of quality they experience with NDI is either due to one or both of the computers not being capable of a gigabit connection and or not having a gigabit switch or router. Most of the cheap older routers and switches are only 100Mbps bandwidth and 720 60fps over the network EASILY breaks that peaking around 200 Mbps for really intense scenes or fast transitions.

  • @MattEatsMochi
    @MattEatsMochi 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Quick note about NDI, you don't need to run OBS on the gaming PC. Newtek has a tools suite that comes with NDI Scan Converter that sends over your monitor/audio from your gaming PC to your streaming PC. It has a low latency mode that is next to instant (same latency as modern capture cards). If quality and delay were your only concerns when looking into NDI as a transfer method, I'd highly recommend you look into it without running it using 2 instances of OBS like this tutorial suggests.

    • @cultdasilva
      @cultdasilva ปีที่แล้ว

      Where I can’t find a tutorial about this! That sound great

    • @ThomasShelby6213
      @ThomasShelby6213 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      How do you do this?

    • @MattEatsMochi
      @MattEatsMochi 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ThomasShelby6213 NDI updated their app to be called Screen Capture HX. its great.

  • @alwaystriggered6184
    @alwaystriggered6184 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The KING of making streaming and learning this stuff enjoyable, informative, and downright easy. Keep doing the great work you do. Mad respect and appreciation my dude!!!

  • @HydraFlick
    @HydraFlick 5 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    Harris the one and only stream doc, love your content dude very helpful!

    • @mitujuneja8602
      @mitujuneja8602 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      27th August Kya bomb phutega?

    • @bharat2151
      @bharat2151 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @HydraFlick bhai mai aise hi vid checkout karne aaya aur tumhara comment now i know where tos etup dual pc stream from

    • @SkullCrani
      @SkullCrani 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      lol bruv you here

    • @doc6188
      @doc6188 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'd beg to differ

  • @Rokushen
    @Rokushen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think one of the things that you forgot to mention is that you can delay both the camera and the mic audio and video to match the gameplay. that fixes at least the sync. amazing info and channel, btw. Has helped me a shit ton

  • @CoalitionGaming
    @CoalitionGaming 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    NDI woop woop! I love the flexibility NDI gives (especially the fact you can use an old desktop or laptop to run it). You can run everything in OBS on the gaming PC and just NDI it over to the 2nd PC for encoding (simplest, easiest, but maybe not the most efficient but still helps a lot) or just use scan converter as other people are pointing out to send everything on screen over to the 2nd PC without OBS being open on the main PC. This method is great too, but routing alerts audio and such back to the main PC makes it less simple, but improves gaming performance. Tradeoffs. My favorite function I can do with NDI now? NDI-ing my phone camera into the stream. Can use it within wifi range as a fun little mobile cam, or just as a secondary/tertiary camera (and mic). NDI ftw!

    • @TechTeardownYT
      @TechTeardownYT 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hey it's Mr NDI himself!

    • @CoalitionGaming
      @CoalitionGaming 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TechTeardownYT 😅

    • @BitcoinLouie
      @BitcoinLouie 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yooo! The NDI king is here. Nice.

    • @TonezCG
      @TonezCG 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Eyyyyy yooooo NDI pro himself eyyyyyy !

    • @CoalitionGaming
      @CoalitionGaming 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@TonezCG lol haiiiiii ♥️

  • @zyth6125
    @zyth6125 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The NDI one with the reaction thing is only if youre running your audio stuff from the streaming PC (Mic / webcam/ overlay etc) if you however set all this up on the Gaming PC you could run the whole schabang with a "mimiced" one PC settup with the streaming PC as a render rig. In that way, All signals have equal delay, of course you take a quality hit on those additional sources quality but its an option.

    • @KRysGamingYT
      @KRysGamingYT 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Can always add delays to the sources that need them too. I do not use ndi for audio and instead use my goxlr for audio and a webcam. Both of those needed a 250ms offset delay to the ndi to be in sync.

    • @zyth6125
      @zyth6125 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      KRysGaming yea that’s a great solution!

  • @catmasterOP
    @catmasterOP 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video as always.
    Important to point out with NDI is that you can compensate for the delay by using a "Render Delay" Filter on your camera and offsetting your Audio Input Capture in Advanced Audio Properties. The Render Delay Filter will only allow you to delay up to 500ms but you can add more than one to your source/scene.

  • @FLASHitude
    @FLASHitude 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I truly wish this video existed back when I was learning all of this on my own and struggling a couple years ago 🤣👍 Absolutely fantastic video for people trying to setup their 2 pc setup and options available!

  • @JohnoStreams
    @JohnoStreams 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You can actually clone the monitor and output to your monitor through a separate cable and use the input into the elgato at its resolution that way you can get the refresh rate of your monitor and the 1080p 60fps from your hd60s

  • @BillehOFFICIAL
    @BillehOFFICIAL 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I use a 1440p 144hz monitor, cloned to an Avermedia Live Gamer 4k capture card, and I use Voicemeeter Banana to send the desktop audio and microphone over the capture card on the streaming pc. Also use NDI to send my webcam feed over the network to my streaming PC, because I use my gaming PC to webcam chat with friends sometimes. Honestly this works perfect for me and creates the smoothest stream and gameplay.

  • @VIShots
    @VIShots 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    With NDI you are actually streaming to the streaming PC. Even though you don't click on the streaming button on the gaming PC. Once NDI output is enabled, OBS starts streaming. In other words, the only performance savings you might get are from overlays, which can be done on the streaming PC.

  • @Nick930
    @Nick930 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    @AlphaGaming Great tutorial - but unfortunately in 2020, it doesn't quite apply to Elgato's most recent Elgato 4060s+ capture card device. Unlike the 460 Pro mk.2, the 4k60s+ does NOT allow for 1440p/144hz passthrough, meaning the signal never gets sent and the main gaming PC has this weird 60hz lock rather than the 144+hz it should be running at.
    Do you have any more recent videos that cover this already?

    • @SandPipeHer
      @SandPipeHer 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you find a fix a fix to this?

  • @TorynGent
    @TorynGent 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thx for the video mate, it's astonishingly hard to find a decent summary of the stuff you just explained =)

  • @StoneMountain64
    @StoneMountain64 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Excellent video! 👏👏👏

    • @OG_Zero_Cool
      @OG_Zero_Cool 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wow, StoneMountain64! love your videos bro!!

  • @IamNinetyFour
    @IamNinetyFour 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I literally JUST bought the Elgato HD 60 Pro and it arrived on my doorstep WHILE I was watching this video. PERFECT timing!

  • @ColeRees
    @ColeRees 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this channel. I’ve found that I can watch your videos for an hour or so just to start bouncing ideas around in my head and by the end of it I’ve written down notes on a brand new thing I want to incorporate. Thanks for sparking so many great ideas!

  • @LASCurry
    @LASCurry 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was awesome! I haven't made the switch yet to pc gaming, still playing console! Shared this will some of my pc friends that are looking to start streaming. Thanks for the video.

  • @jersvids
    @jersvids 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dude! I looked everywhere to figure out how to do this stuff. After watching this and your Audio version I subscribed. Really easily explained and gave multiple options. Thanks a lot.

  • @GeneralKazar
    @GeneralKazar 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    You can add a delay to your mic and camera to match the NDI delay. Not optimal since you might have to change it every day but overall it is a solution for those using NDI.

  • @simbasiniego
    @simbasiniego 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I watched hundreds of videos and no one was as easy as yours, you are amazing bro!

  • @captainkearn
    @captainkearn 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Harris you don't have to run OBS on both PC's when using NDI, you can run the NDI Tool's Scan Converter standalone on the game PC and it will give you better performance. But thanks again for a great video.

    • @CoalitionGaming
      @CoalitionGaming 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      One of the reasons I love NDI, different ways to do it. Including NDI-ING my phone camera into the stream.

    • @KRysGamingYT
      @KRysGamingYT 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Glad you brought that up. To clarify for people, using the NDI Tools (Scan Converter, specifically) will capture your display and send it over the network. It acts the exact same way as mirroring to a capture card. The pro is less resources used. The con is that display is always captured no matter what. I prefer to use the OBS NDI plugin because you can have greater control of what is being sent over NDI through your scenes at the cost of slightly more system resources. Now when I alt tab, stream doesn't have to see all my open windows :P

  • @Killakris
    @Killakris 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Method 1 can be done with a 1440p monitor and a hd60pro even without the quality loss, just use windows settings

  • @JustinPlaysTV
    @JustinPlaysTV 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I disagree with the final statement. I have found it to be the most efficienct in the two PC setup, as I currently use it for my 1440p 144hz capture, and the quality is superb!
    The other two add a fair bit of load on the gaming PC, and can often show up resulting in frame loss and drops.
    However, I do use NDI for audio transfer and it is an amazing feeling to not use larger interfaces for my audio setup!

    • @RainyCreates
      @RainyCreates 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can you talk more about how to setup NDI better than what Harris says in the video? Never heard of it but I'm really intrigued right now.

    • @JustinPlaysTV
      @JustinPlaysTV 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RainyCreates NDI basically clones the preview shown on the Main PCs OBS over the network onto the streaming PCs, though whatever issue that presents itself on the main Preview will show over in the streaming PCs as well.
      Once a GPU begins to run out of resources, it takes from OBS resulting In frame drops.
      Hard testing on several builds confirmed this.

    • @gonxareloaded
      @gonxareloaded 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JustinPlaysTV what about my mic and webcam? harris didnt mention that

  • @jochem148
    @jochem148 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    How is the first methode doing with high refresh rates? I am playing on 1080p with 240hz can a capture card capture that as 1080p 60hz?

    • @OgCollector
      @OgCollector 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I was searching comments for someone else who has this setup 😂

    • @ayeyomyles
      @ayeyomyles 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes it will capture it as 60hz

    • @tims.9883
      @tims.9883 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yea, would I have to game at 1080p 60hz in order to use this card?

    • @jochem148
      @jochem148 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ayeyomyles and I can game at 240hz?

    • @harryann1069
      @harryann1069 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jochem yes

  • @JBGecko13yt
    @JBGecko13yt 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    NDI Worked and with gigabit network, I cannot tell the delay!!!! you saved me bud, I will find your stream and follow!

  • @MightySquirrel724
    @MightySquirrel724 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you have a capture card, and want to run at 4k, they make a HDMI splitter that downscales the video to 1080p. So you can send 4k to your monitor, and 1080p to your capture card. They're only $50.

  • @NeroNightfire
    @NeroNightfire 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    THANK YOU! You finally answered my confusion as so many get it confused because they focus so much on consoles! THANK YOU!!!

  • @BEARFACE0187
    @BEARFACE0187 ปีที่แล้ว

    totally cleared everything up! the 1st option fit me best. THANK YOU SO MUCH !!! sigh of relief has been taken now 😅😅😁😁

  • @spawnsticks
    @spawnsticks ปีที่แล้ว

    this video really needs to be updated, we need the full walkthrough how to set up the 2 pc streaming setup + not only the cloning screen also we need the passthrough like ( how to play on HDR on the gaming PC and tone mapping SDR to the streaming PC )
    can’t wait for this video

  • @Mayankbhattacharya
    @Mayankbhattacharya 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    That ring light though!

  • @RickyNinja
    @RickyNinja 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    You don’t have to run obs on the game pc if you also download scan converter from new tec

    • @R3DST1CK
      @R3DST1CK 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yep exactly and its much better than the OG NDI plugin

    • @charliemyszkowski6681
      @charliemyszkowski6681 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@R3DST1CK This is true if your screen resolution is =/

  • @Scouppi
    @Scouppi 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you so much😊🤙. I must buy the new capture card! This really helped me to choose. I just asked few hours ago that what is the best way to stream 2 pc set up but there is you who help us all and gets my shout out and like!

  • @TheOvadex
    @TheOvadex 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In my experience the delay you mention on NDI is virtually nonexistent if rather than using obs to send the signal you use the NDI Tools scan converter.

  • @B_Clauva
    @B_Clauva 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So, pretty much bite the bullet and get yourself a 4k capture card for best/easiest on your PC an frames!
    Got it🤙😜
    Keep up the awesome knowledge

  • @tcufoxman
    @tcufoxman 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    For those who are streaming and not have Nvidia (or do, this works for both) you can use the windows key + P to bring up the display options and then click on duplicate. Assuming you only have one monitor.

  • @misdierekt928
    @misdierekt928 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was literally talking about NDI and 2 PC streams yesterday on the Alpha Gaming Discord :) - Brilliant Timing on the Vid :)

  • @BenjiDWJ
    @BenjiDWJ 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As per usual this was an awesome video, Harris! 😁
    Thank you very much as ever for the solid advice. 👊
    I've just now added this to a playlist specifically tailored towards live streaming setups to use as a reference at a later date.

  • @pariahgaming365
    @pariahgaming365 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude, this video is 3 years old and it basically saved my life today! Thanks!

  • @EnigmaZV
    @EnigmaZV 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is actually exactly what I was looking for!

  • @BryanLebron72
    @BryanLebron72 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    hello Harris! there's a newer method of capturing the display of the gaming pc without even opening obs on the gaming PC over ndi, its using the NDI scan converter, found within the NDI TOOLS 3.8 which is the latest version so far, it removes the load of having OBS open on the Gaming PC all together. i don't know if you haven't seen it around yet, but its very uncommon i don't see anyone else doing.

  • @OpenSourceSlayer
    @OpenSourceSlayer 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Super helpful man helped me out a lot with my setup for my channel, kudos

  • @Reggaedadd
    @Reggaedadd ปีที่แล้ว

    Welp, I found the reason that my Elgato HD60S+ was giving me so much trouble with my dual PC setup 😅 I appreciate the break down of the methods and the cons of using them.

  • @FRMLA_H
    @FRMLA_H 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    1 yr later.. and this video now comes into play for me. 2nd PC inbound.

  • @GetShrektMrKrabs
    @GetShrektMrKrabs 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I use NDI strictly for sending multiple audio sources. I.e music, discord and desktop audio. I leave the video capture entirely up to my capture card. Found it easier to set it up that way with voicemeeter

  • @JustDr3wpy
    @JustDr3wpy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    40$ stream pc. Solid. Being Harris Heller. Legendary.

  • @wakatikitaka
    @wakatikitaka 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    wait for your audio tutorial. thx a lot m8) rly like you videos

  • @Void-np6mb
    @Void-np6mb 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just a quick thought for anyone considering using the NDI method, you can add a delay do your webcam/audio just enough to put it all in sync.

  • @GlycerineOxide
    @GlycerineOxide 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    You don't need to run OBS as an NDI output on your gaming PC. You can use the ndi scan converter to output to the network and OBS will pick it up on the stream PC and not run OBS on the gaming machine at all.

  • @SundayNightGames
    @SundayNightGames 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    really wish you would physically show us how to do all options especially the first one

  • @SamScope
    @SamScope 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm spending good couple hours a day watching your videos... you are super intelligent and your channel is my University..

  • @bingbongkilla8524
    @bingbongkilla8524 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's right here is your best video boss thank you ones again!!!

  • @PLUSHii
    @PLUSHii 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    now im only in 6 min of the vid and dont know if u answered these, but.. (press read more)
    1. If I need to talk to my friends which pc would i use?
    2. If I were streaming audio what pc do I plug my mic into?
    3. Do I have to edit (if i record a video) on my streaming pc, or gaming pc?
    4. I think thats it
    (I just ordered a new pc and planning to make a 2 pc setup sooo)

  • @savagearmygaming7008
    @savagearmygaming7008 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I appreciate everything that you do and enjoy your videos greatly. Your fixes have helped me with a few issues my stream has had as well as equipment. You deserve all the praise and subs you can get and excited for what's next! Have a great day sir!

  • @ThatGuyWalter
    @ThatGuyWalter 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was running a two PC setup with NDI, but I just picked up a HD60 Pro (1080 is fine for me!). Thanks for this video! 👏🏼

  • @calebwagner7474
    @calebwagner7474 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This channel has helped my stream out so much, and I recommend that everyone checks out the discord because it has helped me out so much to talk to everyone about my streaming issues.

  • @andresquiroz3155
    @andresquiroz3155 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Does it work if I stream from my old laptop and use my pc as a gaming pc?

  • @UncalmChaos
    @UncalmChaos 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have always used a 2X PC set up, until recently. My gaming PC is a beast and my streaming PC was a 2017 27” iMac running Windows bootcamp. With OBS streaming, my CPU usage would shoot up to about 55-60%. I recently plugged everything into my gaming PC and have moved to a 1x PC set up. My gaming PC has a webcam, mic, capture card (for console only) and dual 144 hz monitors. Also cranked up the graphics to work seamlessly with my 144hz GSYNC monitors. This was best decision I have ever made. Even with Aqibmir’s animated scenes, stingers, mic, webcam, stream deck, dual 144hz monitors, streaming w/ OBS studio and graphics cranked, my CPU usage is only at 1.5%. I built a monster. The rig I am using is a i9 9900k With 32G of ram and a RTX 2080TI. I’ll never go back to a 2x PC set up. Although, I agree with Harris’ statement about splitting the resources. But with the type of rig I have built, I just don’t need a streaming PC, as my gaming rig handles everything flawlessly and uses less than 2% of my CPU. Thank you Harris for all that you have taught me the past few months. You have taken me from a laggy stream, using the Xbox One X’s Twitch app with the wrong bitrate and my Xbox headset, back to PC gaming and a quality stream so again thank you. You’re the man.

    • @GrandMasterLynx
      @GrandMasterLynx 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      How much did you spend on the build if you don’t mind me asking

    • @UncalmChaos
      @UncalmChaos 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      GrandMasterLynx Around $2,500. But I was able to justify it because now I won’t need a 2nd PC. I was able to completely delete the Windows partition on my iMac. It’s back to 100% Mac OS X which is used for my music recording in Logic X and to display my chat and creator dashboard on twitch.com.

    • @UncalmChaos
      @UncalmChaos 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      That price includes all components, case and shipping of components. I spent about 2,200 on all components, case, liquid cooling and shipping. Then about $150 for some software I needed.

    • @UncalmChaos
      @UncalmChaos 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      JackVR You have a haas PC. I used pcpartspicker.com and just found what I wanted, for the cheapest price I could get. Had each component shipped individually. I use my PC for more than just streaming though so the components I bought are tailored to my personal needs. A 1x PC set up just works better for me. Although, I do agree if you have a dedicated, capable streaming PC, I would totally go for a 2X PC set up. But I needed a new gaming PC anyway. My old one was so old that it couldn’t run any modern games at 1080/60 and it was time. Would love to check out your stream.

    • @UncalmChaos
      @UncalmChaos 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      JackVR JackVR This is very true. I am new to streaming and only recently affiliated. However, I am not new to PC building, components and troubleshooting. Of course the cost are different. A 2070 is like $600-$700 less than a 2080 TI and AMD chipset is $150 less than the Intel i9 9900k. The difference of those 2 components alone are $750-$850. Which is enough to build a whole 2nd PC. Ram is pretty cheap these days so getting 32 over 16 wasn’t really anything major. I too, have a crystal clear stream. Difference is, I don’t have to pass my audio/video to another PC via a capture card or NDI plugin. You’re 100% correct, you definitely saved money on some of the components. Enough to build a whole 2nd PC. I chose to just pick the components tailored to my personal needs. Even after I built it, I used a 2x PC set up for awhile. Then I just moved it all to 1x PC and have had no issues. Not sure where the point of failure is? I am able to power everything including stuff I do off stream with only 1x PC. I don’t have to use a capture card or need extra cables unless I’m playing on console. I was not looking to save money by using different components, those are the components I wanted. I’m aware I could have saved money in certain areas much like you did. Everyone builds PCs around their personal needs. Which is why the market is flooded with components. I love talking tech with you guys.

  • @jsaktony1
    @jsaktony1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank god for this video. I just recently started using an older PC as an OBS machine and had a heck of a time getting it together. I would still love to see an actual in depth look at how this functions in OBS. For example, right now, I'm doing the first part, where I mirror my monitor. However, It's a 1440p monitor (using the HD60 PRO) so I can only play games at 1080p and I take a significant FPS hit (from 250 in Rocket League to something like 80). And on the OBS machine, I would kind of like the option of closing out of a game without my entire desktop being on display. I'm not entirely sure this works in any world, but it would be nice. Thanks for the killer content!

  • @gouldyoldyhd1351
    @gouldyoldyhd1351 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    There us a fix for method 1 . I use an legato hd60 with a 144hz monitor by connecting another monitor to my pc, then in nvidis settings get them to mirror. Then plug the elgsto from the mirrored monitor to ur capture device and you will have a 144hz monitor while recording

  • @StevenTheGeek
    @StevenTheGeek 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just a quick thing, what was gained by adding OBS on the gaming pc for NDI? Every streamer that mentions NDI always mentions OBS on the gaming PC but NewTek has always had its own system tray Scan Converter app that gave me nearly no latency. It uses about 4% CPU and 24mb RAM. Then you would just use the obs NDI plugin on the stream PC.

  • @cyph0rg
    @cyph0rg 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been running a dual PC streaming setup for quite a while now, first of all there is another method of streaming without a capture card and not using NDI which is a bit more difficult to setup but I found it yields better quality AND performance than NDI. Also, I'm using the AVerMedia Live Gamer HD 2 capture card which is capped at 1080p even for pass-through and for my games I have a 31.5" 1440p monitor, the monitor does run in windows and runs all games at it's native 1440p resolution, you can configure it in NVIDIA-CP so that it will "downscale" the output for the capture card, so basically it receives a 1080p signal which was downscaled from 1440p, definitely not the best/most elegant solution AND if you're streaming just scripting or text, will be awful, however in games it looks as good as a straight 1080p signal.

  • @Mentatstrategy
    @Mentatstrategy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "why am I doing that, I'm going to stop doing that" continues to do it lol

  • @doomsquadgaming9808
    @doomsquadgaming9808 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brrrroooo you by far the best video for this! Everyone else is terrible with words

  • @TeleVee
    @TeleVee 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I cant find NDI Output settings. I already downloaded it twice!

  • @rustyjojo5736
    @rustyjojo5736 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love how I instantly knew to look up “alpha gaming 2 pc setup” since you have amazing videos on everything!

  • @xCALYPTOxGaming
    @xCALYPTOxGaming 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish I would have seen this video back when I was figuring out how to do this. I fall under category two (1440p monitor, 1080p capture card) and it took me forever to find some obscure reddit post that mentioned the preview option. Your video just lays it out super clean and would have saved sooo much time.

    • @chrisjamesies
      @chrisjamesies 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hows performance for you? I'm going to be in this same boat. running ryzen 5 3600 / rx 5700.

    • @xCALYPTOxGaming
      @xCALYPTOxGaming 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chrisjamesies Performance seems to be fine. My streaming PC is not very beefy and I have been using x264. I might take a look at switching to the new NVENC to see how it compares.

  • @MichaelW.1980
    @MichaelW.1980 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The only solution sensible for a two PC setup is the mirroring option. any solution with a second OBS installation on your game PC in my eyes defeats the purpose of a two PC setup. OBS hits the CPU, OBS hits the Graphics card. If I do that, I am halfway towards the load of a single PC setup for streaming already.
    ...okay that’s not true. The camera and especially stingers and alerts hit the PC real good. But I stick to my point. I want to stream with next to no extra load on my Gaming PC if I go for a two PC setup.

  • @Death-gate
    @Death-gate 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I once met a super amazing Swami type character. And he taught me some of the secrets of life. One of them was how to speak in public and feel comfortable. He said always keep one hand above your waist. I'm guessing that's why you do it so you can feel comfortable. Thanks for the info peace out

  • @Roman_Bearman
    @Roman_Bearman 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey man I would just like to say thanks for all the information and helping me improve my stream. I just got affiliated and wouldn’t have been able to do it without you. Much love my g.

  • @ayeyomyles
    @ayeyomyles 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a next video recommendation! Instead of building a streaming pc, why not add a secondary gpu like the 1660 for the new nvenc and use that’s as the encoder for your stream. Knowing you have enough headroom in your PSU for the extra watts. Love your content my guy, see you in sanhok lol

  • @OracleFish
    @OracleFish 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wouldn't you use the out from the capture card to go to your monitor if you have multiple monitors on your gaming PC and don't have enough outs from your graphics card?

  • @incube80
    @incube80 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Audio set up should have been include in my opinion.. I mean.. the capture card is a setup but the Audio rely on this too... I'm in NDI so ALL the stuff (video, overlay,audio,etc) is on my gaming pc and send to the streaming pc... so it's really simple to manage. No capture audio, no setup on the streaming pc.. .well that what make me choose NDI over anything else.

  • @DjinnZhad
    @DjinnZhad 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    There's a better solution to the preview method. A program called OnTopReplica can replicate any windw fullscreen and use less resources than running obs. Also hotkey switching to the active window makes it easy to switch between games, programs, or screens.

  • @shadowchris_2kn852
    @shadowchris_2kn852 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is perfect in my case to use ndi
    Since I've gotten myself a gaming laptop and a simple 3200g desktop that can be connected though lan
    Thanks for the explanation!

  • @heavylog1c
    @heavylog1c 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    My monitor is 1080p 144hz and my capture card is 1080p 60hz. When I tried method 1 for the first time, I faced a problem where my monitor droped to 60hz. And I found a solution, there's one option in Nvidia settings that allows mirrored monitor and a capture card to work on different frequency. But I forget where it was exactly. Thought it worth mentioning that this problem exists and it can be fixed.

  • @dvalbuena
    @dvalbuena 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the fucking best explanation of capture cards, thks

  • @bullworkz
    @bullworkz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Harris, a little confusing when describing option 1. You talk about your gaming pc attaching to your gaming pc :). I think you meant to say the gaming pc is connected to your gaming monitor and there is also another connection that goes to the capture card of your steaming pc. ?? Yes?

  • @Vitonezz
    @Vitonezz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video was great, we could use a updated version and also i would like to add that Apex Legends is a pretty intensive game to stream, not even using nvenc offloads the issues entirely. The only solution to sucessfully play Apex at 144 fps or more and stream without losing quality and/or frame it is with 2 pcs, even with a 2080 its possible to feel the difference in how fluid the game is, and to be honest, to reach Apex Predator any frame counts. One more thing: Mirilis Action have a VERY effective engine that support multi gpu, to be honest it does have MUCH more quality and performance than OBS but lacks streaming features, like overlay and scene customization. Maybe would be cool to check it out!

  • @AChaser00
    @AChaser00 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't know if you know about NDI TekTools. It's the 'proper' way to do it, without the OBS plugin. It's easier to set up (at least when I tried both), gives you more freedom/options, and in my experience takes up less resources then the OBS plugin version. I'm in your discord (Chaser#2000) if you don't know about it and want to look more into it. Thanks!

  • @itsmeco11ey
    @itsmeco11ey 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Was trying to figure out solely on how to setup my capture card for the past 2 days and this video helped me a TOOOON! Harris the GOD

  • @Tubbo
    @Tubbo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Please do the audio version of this I can find a good guide anywhere!!

  • @TakenEnt
    @TakenEnt 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are wrong about the Capture card not being able to stream the 144 the monitor has, there are countless tutorials out there on how to bypass that and make it, so it doesnt matter.
    ive done it on my 2 pc streaming settup. i use Elgato HD60 and i play from my gaming pc which is 144 screen 1080p to the streaming pc.

  • @munch8187
    @munch8187 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Harris since you talk about audio a lot and I figured you know more than most is there a video where you talk about the Microphone settings in OBS, since now you can do compression and noise gates on there. And if not can you make a video speaking on the subject?

  • @Lendezi
    @Lendezi 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I tried doing the cloning monitors but haven’t been able to get it to work. What worked for me was projecting my obs capture (gaming pc) over to my 4th monitor (capture card) and that’s where the streaming pc was capturing the gameplay. Problem is I can’t figure out how to get display capture going when I’m not in a game. I’d have to constantly set obs to project my screen over every time I switch between game and screen

  • @Middow32
    @Middow32 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    All your videos have helped me so much. Any aspiring streamer needs to check out your content.

  • @TheBrandonAF
    @TheBrandonAF 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This mans a gift to the Internet. Even for those who know this, still compelled to watch. Great presentation as usual.

    • @CallMNinja
      @CallMNinja 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      No he isn't he don't even know what is 2 pc what is 2 monitors

    • @TheBrandonAF
      @TheBrandonAF 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      RoninLetsPlay that’s pretty negative and not accurate. Everything ok? If you play WZ let’s catch a duos. If you need someone to talk too, I got you.

  • @KRysGamingYT
    @KRysGamingYT 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Harris, just wanted to let you know that there's a way to do NDI without OBS on the gaming PC and it'll act exactly like a capture card for that display. It's called NDI Tools found on NDIs website www.newtek.com/ndi/. I personally don't use it as I like to have control over what gets sent so I prefer to use obs game cap then send that over. But for people with tight system resources, I believe NDI Tools uses less resources than if you were to use the OBS NDI plugin.

  • @papaturtletech4672
    @papaturtletech4672 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    There newtek tools another form of ndi you missed, uses scan converter on gaming pc then virtual input on streaming pc over the network

  • @scottweiderman9286
    @scottweiderman9286 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have been fairly successful using the NDI software package to send my screen, webcam, desktop sound, and my blue yeti to another computer downstairs to then send out to any RTMP. no need to run OBS on the gaming side at all, and pretty lossless, but i do see that "fuzzyness" but i equate that to the 720p on twitch side more than NDI (not partnered)

  • @Kevfactor
    @Kevfactor 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Full nerd 🤓 mode for this. Got the glasses action going On.

  • @Lineage2ErtheiaPvP
    @Lineage2ErtheiaPvP ปีที่แล้ว

    harris is the butters of streaming

  • @ImCrewy
    @ImCrewy 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I tried to use NDI for a while but even after connecting both PC's to a network switch, the audio delay kept changing so syncing was impossible. I tried making their own NDI outputs and nothing was working until I bit the bullet and bought a capture card. With VoiceMeeter Banana and an Elgato HD60Pro i've had 0 problems and it's been amazing

  • @CastleContent
    @CastleContent 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does anyone know if the updated video has been made? I was hoping for some help on determining what the best set-up is for gaming on a 240Hz monitor to a streaming PC outputing 60fps. Thx!

  • @AnimosityX
    @AnimosityX 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Harris, Hey Bud..I have been using NDI for a year now religiously and I believe in your vid, you told everyone they need to open OBS on their gaming PC as well. This is in correct for myself, all I need to do on my Gaming PC is open NDI and you are good to go, and then OBS Streamlabs on my streaming PC that’s it. I have NDI installed on my steaming PC as well, but have never had to actually open the program on there. just open Streamlabs OBS and go!!! Not sure about delay, but it seem to be the normal delay on stream that lags 10-20 second behind anyway when watching. Now I have never used wired connection with Caoture card, but will be getting too of the line Labtop here in a week or so, and plan on trying this method, but being it will have a 3070 Nvidia in there, this will actually be my capture card correct? Or do I need a separate capture card for the laptop too. I am using ten Samsung 49” G9 Monitor and NDI handles it flawlessly with my other PC using a 980TI

  • @nacho8090
    @nacho8090 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi! I’ve had a lot of experience with two PC setups and had to come up with a LOT of fixes for so many things! With the first method, cloning the monitors will automatically default your main monitor to the refresh rate of the capture card if you’re running that game in windowed mode, if you simply change the res to full screen you will get the FPS of the monitor you’re playing on. So while streaming games that have their full screen mode set to only windowed(rust) you will not be able to play at above 60fps on your own monitor. I am yet to find a fix for this.

  • @killbykill8850
    @killbykill8850 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank You !!! I have doing a'lot of research and been watching a'lot of videos and this really helps out.