FOMOs channel is the best because he actually covers the underlying tech instead of just the consumer products. And this actually helps for people that like to buy a TV and keep it for 7 or 8 years
@@dante19890 Depends on the tech. But yes only if the consumer market adopts it will the tech survive. See Bose's Electromagnetic Suspension, man this was genius.
same here, i'm gonna squeeze every bit of life out of it until i start worrying about how much % better the new models are ps. you're gonna have a blast!
Recently watched a video about how it took 30 years to find a way to transmit blue via LED. This is like watching a prequel to a show about blue light emitting diodes.
So we have multiple OLED advancements on the way plus QNED. Seems like we are about 3 years away form the next major jump forward. I'm still stunned with my A80j so I can wait!
I don't know about you guys but LG does the best aftersales in the Philippines. Repair is done via homeservice while Samsung would you require you to pay for transporting your TV to the service center.
I saw on LG display's OLED monitor roadmap they are dropping the white subpixel and going RGB late next year. This announcement makes a lot of sense. I'll believe in blue pholed when I see it though. UDC always say their blue pholed is ready and then miss the date, let's see if they make it by the end of the year.
True… they either reduce brightnes or they have new more bright oled screen that does not need white oleds! This would also make the text problem of current oleds to go away…
@@lewisevander Its what we all want, the soonest it could be is H1 2026. Even if its marginally off QD-OLED's color volume I prefer LG over Samsung and Sony just charge too much for a panel and ancient mediatek SOC.
@@chinogambino9375 ok but it seems like the display hurts the eyes on the iPad, the tandem one and it also seems to be very expensive, I can't wait that long, I hope they borrow samsungs qd oleds and use them instead, then I will buy it or else I will have to buy samsungs qd oled.
It will be my dream OLED if it can do 500 nits full field and 3500 highlights. Another stack sounds delicious but I want all the gains going to brightness forget about longevity
If they can hit 1000 nit full screen it's going to be game over for other Technologies. If they gave us a panel that was 960 HZ but could do 480 HZ with black frame insertion 1 - 2 milliseconds of image persistence per frame for better than plasma motion handling. It's endgame baby.
Only if they can also fix burn in and longevity issues. And I mean properly fix it, not implement hacks like screen dimming that negatively affect the image and if you disable them you void your warranty. Even though there are lots of anecdotal stories of people with long lasting TVs, the problem still remains.
@@piefliesOLED lasts a long time. I keep hearing these comments of them having longevity issues and yet my folks LG EG9100, released in 2017 continues to happily work with plenty of brightness despite being heavily used on a daily basis.
I love the fight and that they bring new and better products. At the moment I hate that my OLED TV S95B doesn’t get very bright after a while at hdr, I expect in a near future that we but an OLED with sustained high brightness with very burn in risk
I got the 85 inch Hisense U8N for $1,800 and shockingly have zero issues with it. Gets super bright, I love the contrast and no blooming. Clean panel and no bugs. So I think I'm going to be good for a few years until LG comes out with something more innovative beyond a supposed "new" processor every year. An OLED would obviously be better than the Hisense, but not over $3,000+ better and especially not enough to sacrifice the brightness for which I'm really enjoying. At most I would love to have the QM8 back, but I already had a bad panel and since my panel is clean I don't want to deal with the panel lottery or other buggy tvs.
My hisense wont turn on after only 2 years of use, the screen turns on but no backlight 🤨, so i bought an LG oled C2 and its an amazing tv i dont think i will ever go back to LCD after owning an oled, and probably will never buy another hisense after my experience.
There is a lot of way to make an oled panel bright but you have always a tread off in reliability and also speed. Using phosphorus can be a detrimental at speed. The emission in an OLED panel is mainly due to singlet and not triplet, losing efficiency but gain in speed. You can make very bright and efficient oled by enhancing the triplet emission (like lighting OLED) but it is slower. We are talking even of ms which is nothing in lighting but too much for a panel.
Biggest WOLED issue with colors is due to abusing W subpixels - even for darkest tones. W subpixel stimulates rods too much so when there is black and dark gray next to eachother then black sticks out. I bet LG is aware of this and how Samsung's QD-OLED panel don't have this issue. People are not aware of this issue but sooner or later people will notice how WOLED is broken and we should NOT see black sticking out - for now people think its how it has to be and ignore it. LG definitely wants to fix that issue by getting rid of W subpixel and doing colors more like Samsung do them.
Yeah 👍🏻 u talking about Rods !!! I know right way u know stuff ! I am on same boat ! Our EYES 👀 have 2 X sensory Receptors for Warm light than cool 🆒 (blue ) as long as the WOLED is BLUE based , it will NEVER look as Neat 🎉 vibrant as LED . Human eyes 👀 r adapted to seek SUN ☀️ Warmth . :) I went to science 🧬 program . Our PHD professor De BUNK Plasma etc /now OLED Myth . 😊 I just prefer LED (Samsung /Hisense ) Spring morning , out door nothing is Black . Eyes need Color n more warmth :) , otherwise cloudy day -- more blue light 💡 (cloud blocks Red light - long wave 🌊 length ) WOLED 🆒
Great news but what matters is how it is implemented properly. Who wins is always the one with better post-processing that can make use of these innovation well.
I would love to see more improvements in the Bravia 8, C series , and S90 models. I think the premium models should offer 20-25% more brightness, especially in SDR which is where OLEDs really fall flat. At the same time, the Bravia 8 is practically as good or better than the LG G2 so they are improving.
I never thought I’d say this, but with the rapid yearly improvements and streaming charging more premium for 4k each year, I kinda just want to go back to junk tier Walmart 1080p.
Yes planned obsolescence, processing chip fails in three years, LED panel fails in seven years, OLED burn in four years. Cheap TV's cause eyestrain, content is bit starved and overpriced, 4K disc players are unreliable.
Even if you stack them wouldn't the half that has a shorter lifespan still wear out sooner? Wouldn't this just band-aid the problem? I imagine buyers in that scenario, would count down the time when their TV will eventually lose much of it's brightness from the loss of the layer. I hope that's not the case. I want this to be the magic bullet for OLED.
as much as i want a sony, i cant help but appreciate lg for how great my experience with my cx has been. i was looking to upgrade to qd oled and had been holding for something better than the evo oled mla.
@@martinchitembo1883 if you are in those apps all day, that is the same as the banners on news channels that burn in Make a conscious choice to leave the apps here and there so the pixels show different colors
Great content fomo great info but for them not use the white sup Pixel they're going to lose out, White sub pixel stop the strain on the other colors, to make white they don't have to mix it if qd OLED did have white inside of it it would be the best, this steps of colors would be bad just like the Samsung now, it's like showing too much red and so on that would happen to it, You need the white to mix to make make it the perfect steps going up example different step of reds they're going to have to mix the white to put with the red from those three colors, it's not going to be good, its going to put the strain on certain colors, with the white inside of it, it will make it better I don't know why they don't see that
I’m assuming this new PHOLED display will be coming to the iPhone 7 and 2025 since this is the year that they’re doing the big upgrade changing what the phone looks like different different models etc.
I'm skeptical. If pho-blue OLED isn't stable enough to be used without falling back to fluorescent OLED, does that mean over time they're gonna burn out, resulting in a TV that loses its blue punch over time??
I'm hoping for QDEL in 2027. The Achilles Heel of the OLED technology in general seems to be the possibility of burn-on, hence why OLED PC Monitors have all those burn-in prevention technologies integrated. Don't get me wrong, for a general purpose TV viewing varied content, OLED might be just fine. If both QDEL displays as well as Ph-OLED displays arrive at around the same time, what would the advantage of a Ph-OLED display be compared to a QDEL display? Costs maybe, which of course could be a major factor I must admit. I'm very excited for what the future of QDEL displays could bring.
Thanks for getting my hopes up, and then crushing my dreams FOMO! Guess I will have to make due with a G4 or G5 next year. 😝 Will never consider a Samsung TV until they support Dolby Vision, and the Sony TVs are not good enough to compensate for the Sony tax. Well, maybe if Samsung ever releases a 4000 nit microLED consumer TV, but that's not likely going to happen within the next five years, if ever.
I'm not sure if LG could bring that technology to small TVs such as the 42" TV. Currently have a 42" C2 and my run-time is around 6,300 hours and counting.
Ofcourse they could, but they are gonna milk the new tech first in the expensive highend models! You can make 10” TV with this tech… as you see what Apple is doing with this tech in iPads!
Great content fomo ,LG can fall asleep if they want ,knowing Samsung they will rush this technology out next year with issues , with black outs and other issues they dont give a dam as long as they are first , , the s95b I had I would pick up the remote and the tv would turn on I had all kinds of issues with that first generation tv .
I love LG this is great. Samsung tech is redundant bcoz their quality control is horrendous at best. Only good if Sony use it like the A95L. Very happy with the G4
Competition is what breeds greatness. Victory for companies normally = defeat. But I still won't see LGs new new in my Living room for quite a few years cause of the cost they will market it at for the first 2-3 Generations (Early Adopters WE NEED YOU) and they will only put it in the G- series at the Highest cost possible. So in reality most people won't have them until after 2030.. But I'm happy with my C3 and it's covered till 2029
I'd rather LG focused on making larger Oled tvs. I want an affordable 150" rollable oled that can genuinely replace projectors with roll-down screens. The quality and efficiency of their current OLED panels is excellent. Unfortunately they are falling behind in size. They top out at 97" and their pricing for that model is just silly.
@@chrispomplun1511even if it ends up being cheaper to manufacture, if it’s the newest tech and ends up looking best it will be more expensive because it will be the new tech flagship.
Lmaoo ummm sorry to bust your manipulative delusions but the G4 actually has Color Loss at High Brightness. atleast my QD Oled does not have that problem . 😂😂 exactly why I retuned it and got a QD Oled Sony. It’s picture and colors are way better from my comparison
QD-OLED simply loses peak brightness up to 50%, after a number of operating times, if you buy a new TV every two years it is not important, but if you want to use it for several years I would take that into account. New 1500 nits, after years 900 nits, with the main price you pay for it is still bad.
Samsung should've doubled down on EL-QD. Ditches OLED. It's not gonna get better than this. You have to find a workaround after the workaround just to make it a practical product at least in a TV market. That also shows their limitation which we've reached already if we haven't you won't have to find a workaround solution.
It sounds good, I just hope this new tech doesn't end up with the QD-OLED issue of pinkish white scenes (over-exagerrated reds). One of the things I've always liked about WOLED is how much more pure the white bright scenes looked. Not to say that QD-OLED looks horrible or anything. But I ended up going with a G3 last year because the MLA brightness boost allowed a color vibrance boost that I felt like WOLED needed (even if not quite as saturated as QD-OLED) without messing with bright white and yellow colors at all, leaving them the almost non-tinted color I felt they should be.
Both woled and qd oled already use tandem oled in a sense. In woled there r 2 blue emitting layers and 1 yellow. Qd oled uses 3 blue and possibly 1 green. This, as u might guess, is done to increase brightness. That is my understanding at least. I’m not sure inkjet tandem would provide any benefits over qd oled.
@@techsamurai11. I traded in my old iPad and picked up an iPad Pro 11 inch OLED. It’s the absolute best display I’ve ever seen in my life. Even when the brightness is set to low brightness, the color is really pop. This is a perfect screen. I love how there’s essentially no display settings with the iPad. I don’t want to have to adjust a display, yes, settings are useful and the more settings. One can argue the more control they have over their outcome. But Apple just gets it right, there is no need to adjust anything not that you can anyway. This is probably the perfect laptop display, Uses less energy, more efficient and 1000 peak brightness, full screen absolutely incredible specs. With 1,600 peak brightness at a 10% window. Honestly, 1000 net full screen brightness is really what everyone was looking for. Highly recommend picking one up giving it a try even if you return it. Seeing it in the store, for a few minutes is not enough time to understand the display you need to spend time with it.
@@crowntotheundergroudah no they do not. Hence, why the iPad can do 1,000 nits full screen brightness and 1600 nits peak 10% window. Not many TVs in the world can do that OLED or non OLED. Come on man go with the program.
@@michael-4k4000 Yes, the iPad is able to do 1000 nits full screen, and yes, oled televisions don't get anywhere near that, but that is because the iPad's display has far less surface area. The iPhone 14 Pro and it's successor are able to hit 1000 nits full screen without the use of multiple layers. As I said, televisions already use a SIMILAR approach to tandem oled as they use multiple emissive layers to achieve their levels of brightness. QD-oled has 3 blue layers and some suspect there may be an additional green layer. WOLED has 2 blue layers and one yellow layer.
I have a QLED and a QDOLED, and I see some shows and movies are better on the QLED then on the QDOLED and vice versa. I am familiar with tv tech since the 1950's so I have to say that the content , programs and movies we are offered and watch is more important than what we watch it on. In 2024 tablets, laptops, projectors, televisions , all offer excellent picture quality and sizes from the budget to the flagship products. Still, I like to see what are the latest and greatest tech from the best brands. It's very interesting.
I am on same boat ! Our EYES 👀 have 2 X sensory Receptors for Warm light than cool 🆒 (blue ) as long as the WOLED is BLUE based , it will NEVER look as Neat 🎉 vibrant as LED . Human eyes 👀 r adapted to seek SUN ☀️ Warmth . :) I went to science 🧬 program . Our PHD professor De BUNK Plasma etc /now OLED Myth . 😊 in case u wonder why u enjoy LED more :). Spring morning , out door nothing is Black . Eyes need Color n more warmth :) , otherwise cloudy day -- more blue light 💡 (cloud blocks Red light - long wave 🌊 length ) WOLED 🆒
imagine a well known leader releasing a product towards the end of a year in september, being all but next years tech, and then winning best tv for that next year. crazy right? must be favoritism and its now gonna win every year
I actually think they will have this ready for consumer TV’s next year. We’re still talking 7-8 months away. They have to remain relative and competitive. I don’t believe this will be for just mobile devices. I am almost certain they will be introducing this tech to TV’s sooner than later.
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I dont even care who wins.. if LG or Samsung brings us something that could be this much better. I’m all for it no matter who brings it
👍 Exactly 🎉
Then they will complain about how expensive it is 😂😂
Samsung needs to work on their motion, Also the new LG oled will cost the first few years..
@@Jordanfiend361 bums are always crying
@@ALI-soon1Milli Ok billionaire, we peasants would like to deeply apologise to you 😂
FOMOs channel is the best because he actually covers the underlying tech instead of just the consumer products. And this actually helps for people that like to buy a TV and keep it for 7 or 8 years
The tech isn't relevant unless its make its way into consumer products
@@dante19890 Depends on the tech. But yes only if the consumer market adopts it will the tech survive. See Bose's Electromagnetic Suspension, man this was genius.
*15 years. Managed to use my Glaxy S6 for 9 years
i wonder why this wasn‘t covered why oled doesn‘t hold so long. so the general duration is lead by the blue oled.
"Brightest OLED TV in 2024 because Phosphorescent Blue OLED is coming!" This is his video from 2022.
I’m still rocking my LG C1 55 and STILL satisfied! 😊
I have my C9 and Im still happy with it compared to the recent new tvs. Happy to wait a bit
Solid analysis Fomo. On another note, what is the likelihood of us getting bigger QD Oled next year?
I went to every Pho restaurant in Los Angeles and Blue was not on any menu.
I'll keep you posted.
I can just imagine the demo reel with a steaming bowl of soup against a black background
I have a Son in the O.C. and he and his wife know every good Pho restaurant in the county.
Wow, Can't wait to see a final product.
To see color gamut, color volume, power consumption.
I’m good. My G4 83 will be pulling in my driveway with in the next 48 hours. There’s no waiting for new tech.
You did fine, wouldn't be surprised if it's 2 gens away anyway (Jan 2026 CES announcement?), but it could be sooner.
That’s the only woled id consider getting good pick
Did u get a deal on g4 83?
So happy for you! 😊
same here, i'm gonna squeeze every bit of life out of it until i start worrying about how much % better the new models are
ps. you're gonna have a blast!
Love your science updates on our favorite technologies!!!
Recently watched a video about how it took 30 years to find a way to transmit blue via LED. This is like watching a prequel to a show about blue light emitting diodes.
I always learn something from your vids. Often, you give me something to think about that I hadn't considered. Keep going!
Oh no fomo got grey hair, oh no we're becoming old!
So we have multiple OLED advancements on the way plus QNED. Seems like we are about 3 years away form the next major jump forward.
I'm still stunned with my A80j so I can wait!
Its already more than good enough but i wont complain.
Glad that you have put all this into perspective. Interesting and useful update!
I don't know about you guys but LG does the best aftersales in the Philippines. Repair is done via homeservice while Samsung would you require you to pay for transporting your TV to the service center.
I saw on LG display's OLED monitor roadmap they are dropping the white subpixel and going RGB late next year. This announcement makes a lot of sense. I'll believe in blue pholed when I see it though. UDC always say their blue pholed is ready and then miss the date, let's see if they make it by the end of the year.
True… they either reduce brightnes or they have new more bright oled screen that does not need white oleds!
This would also make the text problem of current oleds to go away…
But when will they release true rgb oled tvs?
@@lewisevander Its what we all want, the soonest it could be is H1 2026. Even if its marginally off QD-OLED's color volume I prefer LG over Samsung and Sony just charge too much for a panel and ancient mediatek SOC.
@@chinogambino9375 ok but it seems like the display hurts the eyes on the iPad, the tandem one and it also seems to be very expensive, I can't wait that long, I hope they borrow samsungs qd oleds and use them instead, then I will buy it or else I will have to buy samsungs qd oled.
"Brightest OLED TV in 2024 because Phosphorescent Blue OLED is coming!" This is his video from 2022.
It will be my dream OLED if it can do 500 nits full field and 3500 highlights. Another stack sounds delicious but I want all the gains going to brightness forget about longevity
If they can hit 1000 nit full screen it's going to be game over for other Technologies.
If they gave us a panel that was 960 HZ but could do 480 HZ with black frame insertion 1 - 2 milliseconds of image persistence per frame for better than plasma motion handling.
It's endgame baby.
Only if they can also fix burn in and longevity issues.
And I mean properly fix it, not implement hacks like screen dimming that negatively affect the image and if you disable them you void your warranty.
Even though there are lots of anecdotal stories of people with long lasting TVs, the problem still remains.
Panasonic oled.ex+mla have 2000nit!
@@piefliesOLED lasts a long time. I keep hearing these comments of them having longevity issues and yet my folks LG EG9100, released in 2017 continues to happily work with plenty of brightness despite being heavily used on a daily basis.
Then y’all will complain about how expensive it is 😂😂🥴🤦🏽♂️
4000 nit is minimum for to be even near ”end game”!
Most likely 10000 nit is the real ”end game” tech…
I love the fight and that they bring new and better products. At the moment I hate that my OLED TV S95B doesn’t get very bright after a while at hdr, I expect in a near future that we but an OLED with sustained high brightness with very burn in risk
I would like them to implement tandem oled tech into the existing woled monitors, they would benefit most from brightness and a burn in standpoint.
If you want me excited about new tvs - just add rolling scan BFI at native refresh.
I doubt this tech makes it to LG Display's tv panels anytime soon. Probably mobile displays first.
"Brightest OLED TV in 2024 because Phosphorescent Blue OLED is coming!" This is your video from 2022.
I spent that entire video looking at your shirt and saying “Where are my dragons!!!”
I got the 85 inch Hisense U8N for $1,800 and shockingly have zero issues with it. Gets super bright, I love the contrast and no blooming. Clean panel and no bugs. So I think I'm going to be good for a few years until LG comes out with something more innovative beyond a supposed "new" processor every year. An OLED would obviously be better than the Hisense, but not over $3,000+ better and especially not enough to sacrifice the brightness for which I'm really enjoying. At most I would love to have the QM8 back, but I already had a bad panel and since my panel is clean I don't want to deal with the panel lottery or other buggy tvs.
My hisense wont turn on after only 2 years of use, the screen turns on but no backlight 🤨, so i bought an LG oled C2 and its an amazing tv i dont think i will ever go back to LCD after owning an oled, and probably will never buy another hisense after my experience.
When the QDEL/Nanoled is coming ?
Definitely a few years out
Damn I just got my QD-Oled monitor and I'm excited to see what I'll buy when I need to replace it.
Looks like I’ll hang on to my G3 for a while. Good video, very informative FOMO, thx.
Panasonic coming back? I hope yes
Sure with 85 '' pholed !!!!!
The tandem OLED of the iPad Pro M4 causes some horrible eye fatigue for some people. They should work on that!
would you not want to do this to all colors an not just blue? would this not prolong life and reduce burn in ?
The only thing missing from woled is wider color gamut. Everything else is fine.
And the white oled prevents that! That is why they need eventually other option instead of white oleds!
There is a lot of way to make an oled panel bright but you have always a tread off in reliability and also speed. Using phosphorus can be a detrimental at speed.
The emission in an OLED panel is mainly due to singlet and not triplet, losing efficiency but gain in speed. You can make very bright and efficient oled by enhancing the triplet emission (like lighting OLED) but it is slower. We are talking even of ms which is nothing in lighting but too much for a panel.
Biggest WOLED issue with colors is due to abusing W subpixels - even for darkest tones. W subpixel stimulates rods too much so when there is black and dark gray next to eachother then black sticks out. I bet LG is aware of this and how Samsung's QD-OLED panel don't have this issue. People are not aware of this issue but sooner or later people will notice how WOLED is broken and we should NOT see black sticking out - for now people think its how it has to be and ignore it. LG definitely wants to fix that issue by getting rid of W subpixel and doing colors more like Samsung do them.
Yeah 👍🏻 u talking about Rods !!! I know right way u know stuff !
I am on same boat ! Our EYES 👀 have 2 X sensory Receptors for Warm light than cool 🆒 (blue ) as long as the WOLED is BLUE based , it will NEVER look as Neat 🎉 vibrant as LED . Human eyes 👀 r adapted to seek SUN ☀️ Warmth . :) I went to science 🧬 program . Our PHD professor De BUNK Plasma etc /now OLED Myth . 😊
I just prefer LED (Samsung /Hisense )
Spring morning , out door nothing is Black . Eyes need Color n more warmth :) , otherwise cloudy day -- more blue light 💡 (cloud blocks Red light - long wave 🌊 length ) WOLED 🆒
That'd be great, but how can the RG keep up if they're still the same? At least they can remove the W to get a W
This is so exciting! Sidenote: Nice lead in on the Panny....sounds like you got one on the way 🤔
Looking forward to 97” QD-OLED at an affordable price. In the meantime my JVC RS-4200 is unbelievable especially on a 135” screen 😊
I wasn't missing my dream OLED video
Great news but what matters is how it is implemented properly. Who wins is always the one with better post-processing that can make use of these innovation well.
the only oled i've owned is a 55in samsun s95b. LGs pholed will be my next long term upgrade! Lets go LG!
Did u do the service menu tweak?
And here I am with a 5 year old base model Hisense … I must be missing out
I won a casino jackpot and purchased the 75 inch...it is also a computer monitor with 4k
Thanks for the industry news fomo it matters 👍🏾
Time to wait a solid 10 years to see this in a consumer TVs at a reasonable price.
So if LG won't use W anymore, wont that set them back when it comes to burnin protection ?!
I would love to see more improvements in the Bravia 8, C series , and S90 models.
I think the premium models should offer 20-25% more brightness, especially in SDR which is where OLEDs really fall flat.
At the same time, the Bravia 8 is practically as good or better than the LG G2 so they are improving.
Love my lg cx! Ps5 pro let's go!!
I never thought I’d say this, but with the rapid yearly improvements and streaming charging more premium for 4k each year, I kinda just want to go back to junk tier Walmart 1080p.
Yes planned obsolescence, processing chip fails in three years, LED panel fails in seven years, OLED burn in four years.
Cheap TV's cause eyestrain, content is bit starved and overpriced, 4K disc players are unreliable.
By that time mico led and led walls will be much cheaper. Not to mention mini led is getting bigger and better with more zones.
Older lg tvs look oversaturated because they don't have a white subpixel.
Hopefully the the lg c5 corrects this issue.
Now I am glad I haven't bought a TV this year. I am going to hold off and see what happens next year.
Could this be the big comeback for LG?😊
Price is the vital bit for these panels
Expect higher prices at least for couple of years because this is new tech!
@@haukionkannelnot necessarily as samsungs qd oled are not expensive even though it's new technology.
losing to Samsung or Sony ? thats very subjective I think, I personally HATE the magenta look of QD-oled and obsoletely love the LG WOLED.
Even if you stack them wouldn't the half that has a shorter lifespan still wear out sooner? Wouldn't this just band-aid the problem? I imagine buyers in that scenario, would count down the time when their TV will eventually lose much of it's brightness from the loss of the layer. I hope that's not the case. I want this to be the magic bullet for OLED.
as much as i want a sony, i cant help but appreciate lg for how great my experience with my cx has been. i was looking to upgrade to qd oled and had been holding for something better than the evo oled mla.
Still no burn in on your telly? That is my concern with oleds as my phone 13 as a TH-cam and Facebook burned in on the screen.
@martinchitembo1883 Keep your phone on auto and not on full brightness your new phone should not get any burn in.
@@martinchitembo1883 if you are in those apps all day, that is the same as the banners on news channels that burn in
Make a conscious choice to leave the apps here and there so the pixels show different colors
@@martinchitembo1883 9,367 hours of use over 4 years. no burn in.
@@martinchitembo1883burn in is overblown my sony 65A8f Had no burn in over a 5 Yr period now just moved to the A95l 77inch what an incredible tv
Great content fomo great info but for them not use the white sup Pixel they're going to lose out, White sub pixel stop the strain on the other colors, to make white they don't have to mix it if qd OLED did have white inside of it it would be the best, this steps of colors would be bad just like the Samsung now, it's like showing too much red and so on that would happen to it, You need the white to mix to make make it the perfect steps going up example different step of reds they're going to have to mix the white to put with the red from those three colors, it's not going to be good, its going to put the strain on certain colors, with the white inside of it, it will make it better I don't know why they don't see that
and yeah that's sub pixel will lose it's longevity because it have to be mixing all the time to get white with the white it maintained the longevity
Please update us on what’s going on with qd oled research too.
If they are not using the white anymore, doesnthst lean it will be isong RGB pixel layout?
I’m assuming this new PHOLED display will be coming to the iPhone 7 and 2025 since this is the year that they’re doing the big upgrade changing what the phone looks like different different models etc.
I'm skeptical. If pho-blue OLED isn't stable enough to be used without falling back to fluorescent OLED, does that mean over time they're gonna burn out, resulting in a TV that loses its blue punch over time??
All oleds lose punch ower the time… it is just matter how fast it will hapen. So lets see, when this maybe is released 2027?
I'm hoping for QDEL in 2027. The Achilles Heel of the OLED technology in general seems to be the possibility of burn-on, hence why OLED PC Monitors have all those burn-in prevention technologies integrated. Don't get me wrong, for a general purpose TV viewing varied content, OLED might be just fine. If both QDEL displays as well as Ph-OLED displays arrive at around the same time, what would the advantage of a Ph-OLED display be compared to a QDEL display? Costs maybe, which of course could be a major factor I must admit. I'm very excited for what the future of QDEL displays could bring.
I wonder what my plasma can do for luminence for blue. I bet it is superior to any oled with BFI on. And thats why om sticking to plasma
Good, but price for 83" OLED is my main concern.
Thanks for getting my hopes up, and then crushing my dreams FOMO!
Guess I will have to make due with a G4 or G5 next year. 😝
Will never consider a Samsung TV until they support Dolby Vision, and the Sony TVs are not good enough to compensate for the Sony tax.
Well, maybe if Samsung ever releases a 4000 nit microLED consumer TV, but that's not likely going to happen within the next five years, if ever.
I'm not sure if LG could bring that technology to small TVs such as the 42" TV. Currently have a 42" C2 and my run-time is around 6,300 hours and counting.
Ofcourse they could, but they are gonna milk the new tech first in the expensive highend models! You can make 10” TV with this tech… as you see what Apple is doing with this tech in iPads!
I thought QD-OLED’s had problems with color desaturation at low brightness levels? At least per HDTVTest’s comparisons
And woled has color desaturated at high peak brightness no perfect tv
@@Jordanfiend361 I know that, it’s just that he mentioned WOLED has worse dark color performance as well, which I thought was the other way around
Great content fomo ,LG can fall asleep if they want ,knowing Samsung they will rush this technology out next year with issues , with black outs and other issues they dont give a dam as long as they are first , , the s95b I had I would pick up the remote and the tv would turn on I had all kinds of issues with that first generation tv .
I love LG this is great. Samsung tech is redundant bcoz their quality control is horrendous at best. Only good if Sony use it like the A95L. Very happy with the G4
My dream oled would be one that don't have such a high response time and so not having to choose between stutter and soap opera effect...
Competition is what breeds greatness.
Victory for companies normally = defeat.
But I still won't see LGs new new in my Living room for quite a few years cause of the cost they will market it at for the first 2-3 Generations (Early Adopters WE NEED YOU) and they will only put it in the G- series at the Highest cost possible. So in reality most people won't have them until after 2030..
But I'm happy with my C3 and it's covered till 2029
I'd rather LG focused on making larger Oled tvs. I want an affordable 150" rollable oled that can genuinely replace projectors with roll-down screens.
The quality and efficiency of their current OLED panels is excellent. Unfortunately they are falling behind in size. They top out at 97" and their pricing for that model is just silly.
I think they should all focus on QDEL now and bring cost down.
When are we getting bigger (90"+) OLEDs at reasonable prices? That's my next upgrade.
Is the blue gonna be cheaper?
@@chrispomplun1511even if it ends up being cheaper to manufacture, if it’s the newest tech and ends up looking best it will be more expensive because it will be the new tech flagship.
When… there is competition. At this moment there is not in big sizes in oleds.
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Ofcourse more expensive! It is new tech, so more expensive!
This would be the only type of oled I'd buy for a all purpose monitor, current one's would not touch.
I personally don’t like qd oled so what’s the point?
Have all the time, just bought G4 for the next five years. At least I don't have peak brightness loss, like QD-OLED.
Lmaoo ummm sorry to bust your manipulative delusions but the G4 actually has Color Loss at High Brightness. atleast my QD Oled does not have that problem . 😂😂 exactly why I retuned it and got a QD Oled Sony. It’s picture and colors are way better from my comparison
QD-OLED simply loses peak brightness up to 50%, after a number of operating times, if you buy a new TV every two years it is not important, but if you want to use it for several years I would take that into account. New 1500 nits, after years 900 nits, with the main price you pay for it is still bad.
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Samsung should've doubled down on EL-QD. Ditches OLED. It's not gonna get better than this. You have to find a workaround after the workaround just to make it a practical product at least in a TV market. That also shows their limitation which we've reached already if we haven't you won't have to find a workaround solution.
Still has screen burn?
It sounds good, I just hope this new tech doesn't end up with the QD-OLED issue of pinkish white scenes (over-exagerrated reds). One of the things I've always liked about WOLED is how much more pure the white bright scenes looked. Not to say that QD-OLED looks horrible or anything. But I ended up going with a G3 last year because the MLA brightness boost allowed a color vibrance boost that I felt like WOLED needed (even if not quite as saturated as QD-OLED) without messing with bright white and yellow colors at all, leaving them the almost non-tinted color I felt they should be.
Pinkish whites? Not sure who told you that lies. Woled has the pink tint in white. Exactly why I returned the g4. It was terrible with the pink tint
FOMO, what about Tandem OLED like the display on the new iPad Pro? Tandem OLED seems like the way, Lenovo ordered 20,000 panels for computers.
Both woled and qd oled already use tandem oled in a sense. In woled there r 2 blue emitting layers and 1 yellow. Qd oled uses 3 blue and possibly 1 green. This, as u might guess, is done to increase brightness. That is my understanding at least. I’m not sure inkjet tandem would provide any benefits over qd oled.
For sure, Tandem will rule laptop displays especially at the 13-16 inch size. All the premium ultrabooks will offer it soon.
@@techsamurai11. I traded in my old iPad and picked up an iPad Pro 11 inch OLED. It’s the absolute best display I’ve ever seen in my life. Even when the brightness is set to low brightness, the color is really pop. This is a perfect screen. I love how there’s essentially no display settings with the iPad. I don’t want to have to adjust a display, yes, settings are useful and the more settings. One can argue the more control they have over their outcome. But Apple just gets it right, there is no need to adjust anything not that you can anyway. This is probably the perfect laptop display,
Uses less energy, more efficient and 1000 peak brightness, full screen absolutely incredible specs. With 1,600 peak brightness at a 10% window. Honestly, 1000 net full screen brightness is really what everyone was looking for. Highly recommend picking one up giving it a try even if you return it. Seeing it in the store, for a few minutes is not enough time to understand the display you need to spend time with it.
@@crowntotheundergroudah no they do not. Hence, why the iPad can do 1,000 nits full screen brightness and 1600 nits peak 10% window. Not many TVs in the world can do that OLED or non OLED. Come on man go with the program.
@@michael-4k4000 Yes, the iPad is able to do 1000 nits full screen, and yes, oled televisions don't get anywhere near that, but that is because the iPad's display has far less surface area. The iPhone 14 Pro and it's successor are able to hit 1000 nits full screen without the use of multiple layers. As I said, televisions already use a SIMILAR approach to tandem oled as they use multiple emissive layers to achieve their levels of brightness. QD-oled has 3 blue layers and some suspect there may be an additional green layer. WOLED has 2 blue layers and one yellow layer.
Yes! Where is Panasonic?
I'm working on bring in a flagship Panasonic TV this fall, be patient!
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Reliability at max brightness. One aspect where OLED tech needs to improve
It'll be years or more before it's affordable unfortunately.
i dont even care, affordability is relative
About. Ferking. Time!🎉
After all is it affordable
There's no way that changing one pixel type doubles the battery life of the watch, pure fantasy.
so basically we'll get Micro LED before Ph-OLED haha
If that happens their prices will be like 4k for a 55 inch 😂.
I thought Sonys flagship display this year was miniled not Oled like last year
Waiting for Samsung Display to make 83 inch QD-OLED panels so Sony can make the A95M in 83 inch size.
🎉😊 Woooooo 🎉 🎉🎉
❤🎉🎉🎉 time for -- pho 🍜--
Thanks
Those charts at 6:30 are very important.
Pholed is creating phomo for me.
I have a QLED and a QDOLED, and I see some shows and movies are better on the QLED then on the QDOLED and vice versa. I am familiar with tv tech since the 1950's so I have to say that the content , programs and movies we are offered and watch is more important than what we watch it on. In 2024 tablets, laptops, projectors, televisions , all offer excellent picture quality and sizes from the budget to the flagship products. Still, I like to see what are the latest and greatest tech from the best brands. It's very interesting.
I am on same boat ! Our EYES 👀 have 2 X sensory Receptors for Warm light than cool 🆒 (blue ) as long as the WOLED is BLUE based , it will NEVER look as Neat 🎉 vibrant as LED . Human eyes 👀 r adapted to seek SUN ☀️ Warmth . :) I went to science 🧬 program . Our PHD professor De BUNK Plasma etc /now OLED Myth . 😊 in case u wonder why u enjoy LED more :). Spring morning , out door nothing is Black . Eyes need Color n more warmth :) , otherwise cloudy day -- more blue light 💡 (cloud blocks Red light - long wave 🌊 length ) WOLED 🆒
A95L will still win next years shootout.
imagine a well known leader releasing a product towards the end of a year in september, being all but next years tech, and then winning best tv for that next year. crazy right? must be favoritism and its now gonna win every year
I actually think they will have this ready for consumer TV’s next year. We’re still talking 7-8 months away. They have to remain relative and competitive. I don’t believe this will be for just mobile devices. I am almost certain they will be introducing this tech to TV’s sooner than later.
FOMO, time for a haircut? sorry !