I seriously believe alot more has to be considered when evaluating a piece of tech like a tv for what we are paying. From Sound and Speaker Quality, to OS features like smart home connectivity and ease of use, wifi antenna performance and even customer service. All those things are what you are paying for not just the screen and pixels.
The LG G4 had the highest cumulative score by a couple of points, so that TV wins this shootout/comparison outright! (Although the Panasonic will probably score high on this comparative scale as well)
cool - where is SDR rankings and content? the most widely used form, unless people are only turning their TV on to watch the latest blu-ray movies or play games? between the lack of SDR content and circlejerking over creators intent, you TV reviewers keep really dropping the ball. if your intended audience is supposed to be the public anyway, which i'm guessing so with these youtube (which is SDR ironically) videos. apologies for the tone but you guys just don't seem to get it. maybe never will.
Sdr is for people who watch "cable tv shows". Hardly a high fidelity experience where you need a high quality tv. Sdr is a 50 year old standard? More than that? Limitations of TV's over 50 years ago. Seriously think about how bad TVs were 50 years ago in SDR had to be built around them!
@@paulcox2447 nearly all TH-cam content is in SDR. Only 135 PS4 games out of the thousands out there have HDR capabilities and a good chunk of them have it implemented badly to the point that SDR looks better. Older movies are all in SDR too. SDR is still alive not just in cable tv and should get reviewed properly.
I would take the S95D or the Bravia 9. A95L at 5K is too high and there are still people having TCon errors/issues with newer builds. G4 is a calibrator’s dream and has wonderful features, but I can’t go back to WRGB after owning QD-OLED.
I had a Bravia 7 and a G3 side by side. The oled looked better in every category, imho. OLED gets very bright now so the lcd tech seems inferior to me.
Picking one of the four available in the video today and then updating later was probably the move 👍 I spent a lot of time watching and didn’t get an answer.
Fomo, I need your help! I'm stuck in between selecting 2 Tvs open box and got a great deal on both. I either choose the s90D 65" at $1363 or a S95c "77 inch at $1700. I heard a lot great things about the S90d. I already have the s90c 65" which I love. This is for the living room. Is there a big difference between the both?
i hope one day im able to have the money to buy a flagship but as of now i’m beyond happy with my hisense u7k. it has all the latest tech, affordable, and looks amazing. If i wanted something significantly better i’d have to pay significantly more. nothing but compliments for hisense and tcl and i pray they continue pressuring the industry.
I was trying to decide between Bravia 9 AND A95L with a side by side comparison at best buy I was noticing how damn close the image was in HDR content, but in SDR mode the oled was so damn abysmal compared to the mini led that I HAD to buy the Bravia 9. Since honestly only 30% or less is our HDR content watching. If oled was close in SDR I definitely would of went oled, but it's still no comparison. Keep in mind both sets in vivid and no energy savings enabled.
@@jkairi4Years ago I bought a Sony X950G after checking at the store that I could live with its documented limitations. Big mistake, still crying about it (especially coming from plasma).
@jeanbart9458 People that make comparison in stores and purchase a TV will often times return it after watching that TV in their own home environment. I have done that myself.
So how did the TVs perform with a 4K Blu-ray if we’re going to invest this type of money we want to see what the TV can actually do!!! Everything you’re saying is basically ridiculous, if you’re only streaming. All them are gonna look identical and sound the same. TVs can truly shine with a 4K Blu-ray. That’s where you’re gonna see the difference. Heck even a standard 1080p blueray would have been better than using streaming. You guys are reviewing TVs yet you’re not using the best quality you can as TV reviewers this should be a standard. You should be educating people on why they should want to have a 4K Blu-ray if they’re going to invest thousands of dollars into a TV.
Excellent video! I have a friend that is considering one of last year's models and this video was an excellent example of expectations setting in general. I forwarded this to him as a reference. Thanks!
I go for mid-tier more Upper mid-tier like C- Series.. I've never had in interest in going flagship super expensive.. But I always go OLED.. I like WebOS over the others.
Yeah I had to dip my toes into high end Mini-LED to truly understand why I'd rather just have OLED all the time. I bought a Bravia 9 and unfortunately, despite it being very impressive as a MiniLED TV it just kept bugging me the flaws with the panel tech. I know it's not Sony explicitly that's the issue (maybe a little, in that they could probably have put a faster chip on the board to help with some of the issues I saw) as you can tell they are driving the tech almost to it's limits and achieving some picture quality I didn't expect a MiniLED to hit due to their processing algorithm. But even the almighty Sony couldn't break past all of the issues. While motion is extremely impressive for a VA Panel MiniLED, it still has very noticeable ghosting in game mode and VRR? Forget it, it looks awful. And you still have to trade off between blooming and contrast (either going medium LD for great contrast but with blooming, or high LD for excellent blooming control and deep blacks but lower overall contrast and peak brightness). It's obvious that despite throwing their best at it, the panel tech is just too limited for high-end use cases. OLED, even midrange ones, just destroy it in game mode and in overall high motion clarity and you don't have to make the compromise between great contrast, deep black levels and blooming. Sure you don't get nearly as high of peak brightness levels/overall brightness but I'll be honest, in a dim room setting the brightness hitting 1000 nits total brightness and 2000+ peak brightness nits is overkill. It just wasn't necessary and I ended up dimming the screen anyways. That's not to say having the extra "real estate" so to speak isn't good. An OLED that can achieve that brightness or similar is great in that panel lifespan will go way up (same of LCDs) since as the panel dims over time, you can just compensate by going higher to reach the previous perceived brightness level. But yeah, unfortunately to me, MiniLED just has too many compromises right now, especially for the price point of some of them.
@desmondbrown5508 I 100% agree. This whole brightness thing, This brightness War it just doesn't mean that much to me. Yes the older OLED TVs by comparison to today's and even last year's were very very very very very dim. Hitting maybe only 300 to 400 nits. Me having an LG C1 I noticed it but only during the day. But I upgraded to an LG C3 65" and I can tell you it has blown me away. 700nits is what you need to have meaningful HDR/DV impact. The C3 hits that + and the difference it makes for highlights explosions ect ect is miraculous. To be honest I'm not even pushing the LG C3 as hard as it can go. Yes I got it up there. But I tweak my own settings and I got it in Cinema mode with my own tweaking during a bright sunny day in my living room and it is great for Moves. Game Mode is just as AWESOME. So I don't need the 1300- 2000 nits capable TVs and I'm not willing to sacrifice perfect contrast Deep Blacks motion clarity mixed with great colors and color volume an meaningful gaming features for high brightness. Yes higher brightness means higher color volume. But movies are graded in the DCI-P3 color space and Games are sRGB and DCI-P3 witch Modern OLEDs cover 99+% of. I like my picture to look more natural and realistic rather than blown out and oversaturated. So OLEDs for me are where it's at. The C3 does everything I want along with Cover everything I need and It's covered for 5-years(until 2029). $2000 for all that is WWEEELLL WORTH IT..
Hilarious ending! You said: “Not what you expect” . . . and you got that right: Talk about an ending “out-of left field!” Ok. Until tomorrow . . . and CEDIA too coming up real quick! Never a dull moment at this time of year.
Great video! Thanks for always being there with all the info. What about motion? I have an LG C1 (good with motion) and a S90C (bad with motion) and after I bought the S90C, I realized I have a sensitivity to frame skipping and jitter/stutter. But I love the colors on the QDOLED. Sometimes the S90C is.almost unwatchable in some panning scenes because of all the jumping it does.
Thinking about buying the 77 inch LG G4 but wanted to know the average price drop for Black Friday? Wanted to see if my pockets were ready for it lol. It's at 4,299 right now. I'm guessing another 600 to 700 drop in price on black Friday or am I off?
I don’t know much about TV calibration. Can you calibrate any TV ? How can you get it done? Does it make a big difference? I have a Bravia 9, what benefits would I get if it was calibrated?
It’s amazing to me how everyone is crazy about OLEDS, and I was until I got one, I sadly don’t vive with them I don’t like how dark they look, I returned the LG G3 a while ago I just couldn’t do it for how expensive that was, I just wasn’t happy with the look, contrast is amazing but at what cost? , the bright scenes look like garbage to me, and with MLA it was said that was brighter I can’t imagine how more darker they look before, white is never pure white is like yellow, also burn in is a concern to me, regardless of content, I don’t need to take care of my panel I just wanna enjoy content for years to come without worrying, my preferred choice is the Bravia 9, getting the 80” this holiday can’t wait
I have an a83l from last year. Really impressed with the black level and I love the Google ios. I have the tv on a dark wall, you can't differentiate the wall from the black bars on the tv. Heaven.
I use the LGs app and it works great as well as my PS5 with no issues. You can use a Ethernet cable directly to the tv for 5he best results. Try this before you spend any money.
I hope It gets down to around $2299 or less , $2899 Is still way more than I'd pay for that. S90D 77 could also hit around $1999 for black friday. I only want 77 Inches though nothing less , I think they know that's the size everyone wants that's why the prices on 77 oleds barely ever go down much , while 65 inch prices constantly drop.
Yeah, BF is probably the best option unless you wait till Super Bowl time or next spring by then the new models will come out. I’m in the same situation…BF or early November is looking like the best time. I want mine for football season but if I save at least 3 to five hundred dollars then it will be worth it. More money for Christmas gifts 😂
The QM8 has better blooming control than the B9 in normal scenes except that starfield scene which they chose to brighten the specular highlights more. I also think the B9 looks more hazy in comparison and the TCL has better colour saturation. I actually think the QM8 looks more eye pleasing than the B9 provided you get the right settings in.
Thanks FOMO. I was just thinking wow it's been a while since we had 4 flagships of this quality, now you're telling me there's a 5th? sheesh. 2024 is stacked!!
Oh, and a personal note since I'll be looking at 75” tv’s. Since the Hisense U8N uses a different panel in that size, I would appreciate it if you would include it.
Something isn't fare at all. I want to see reviews on the new SHARP TVs. I own a 2013 80" Sharp Aquos Television and it still works 100% today even though it's a 1080p, 120hz Panel. Full Array with no local dimming but Blacks are excellent even in the dark, a little grey. Motion Blur is almost none existent and no Soap Opera Effect, fast motion is excellent better than than Samsung S95D which was a mess. Please review the new Sharp Televisions.
Hello Vincent I see That Panasonic are Releasing there New Range of 2024 Tvs from the Z95 Down to the W85 in The USA 🇺🇸 Market From 18 September 2024 The only Difference I have read so far is The Remote for the USA 🇺🇸 is Different from the European /UK 🇬🇧 Remote. Will you be doing a Review on the Z95 , Z85, W95, on one of your Channels. If not you your friend Brian Hopefully you do one or more.
This score is kinda a joke because he justifies it with the lack of “infinite contrast” and “off-angle viewing” on the B9. He already deducted a few points for off-angle viewing in accuracy, so why bring it up again for streaming? By that logic, you can also bring it up for gaming and sports. Instead, it would have been better to mention image processing in this category, after all, the A95L was given all the flowers in this category last year, in terms of the subtle, artificial image processing (sharpening etc) that the B9 also offers.
thank you for this video. this finally got me to stop that Bravia 9 curiosity, the LG G4, and since Samsung processor and upscaling are not as good as the others. This narrows me to the A95L. I wanted a bigger TV, but I think I would enjoy the perfect 65" vs like a Bravia 8 77".... I want 77" but, my A80J, while being a great TV, leaves a little to be desired. Otherwise, I wouldn't even be looking.
Suprise tv.. may I take a guess? Panasonic is using lg oleds (mla) and they do release models this year and they have additional speakers. They release al kinds of oleds. Also A german company named Metz is making oleds too, dont know which panel factory they use. I will make links below..
My guess is the mystery tv is the 75”/85” Hisense U9N!! 🎉 although they do have the 98UX still supposed to come out with crazy stats!! The U9N has been on the BB website for a while now but. It available. I’m excited to see if Hisense can finally prove all the ADS/IPS panel haters wrong!!! 🎉 imo, the ads panel trade offs in contrast Vs viewing angle are minuscule! Plus VA screens feel “cheap” to me when you touch it. (Notice slight waves in BB display models on VA) 🎉
I like how motion is rendered on QD-OLED generally and you'll likely only see this in sports where infinite contrast makes a bigger difference in motion resolution but they are essentially very close to indistinguishable more often than not
I think he has hinted at a Panasonic return to the states, and no they are not irrelevant. If they come back to the US market they’ll always compete as the top TV
I dont think lg is at the top for gaming anymore. Most of them limit the brightness to much and lock settings unnecessarily. Also, the great processing you pay for is completely locked out, leading to things like banding in many games. Samsung should be the top for gaming, especially on their oleds, sony second for the gradation and not locking settings and lg 3rd.
I had to download a separate app called color control to unlock the true capabilities of my G3 for Sdr, which most games are made for. You shouldn't have to do that, when you pay 3,000$ you should have options, and when they update these features in there next tv's, those updates should come to the ones 2 to 3 years prior. Last note on weird lg limitations, the 21:9 and 32:9 modes are limited to 60hz instead of 120hz like on the samsung, but funny enough, you can easily avoid the frame limit by playing in windowed borderless mode lol.
@@masomaf that's why you go buy a THIRD PARTY EXTENDED WARRANTY that covers PARTS AND LABOR. Hell, Costco tvs all come with it. Be prepared for the surprise if you call LG to fix a 4 year old G4.
@@MrUpscaleman You don’t need capitals to make your point, I can read small letters fine from my phone oleds panel.. I live in europe. Electronics 2 years warranty by law. Lg delivers 5 yrs on panel. Thus 3 yrs longer.. Costco does not exist here..
If I had $10,000, I'd have a Bravia 9 and A95L on two separate carts, and roll each one in my viewing area according to my lighting conditions, as well as what I'm watching.
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So sick of this stupid dark room/bright room nonsense. I appreciate the Bravia 9 and Mini-Led more in a dark room than a lit room. There are a couple really dumb narratives in TV land that need to stop and this is one of them
@@stopthefomo yeah, I'm referring to the whole this TV for dark room, that TV for bright room narrative. It drives me insane and it really confuses the folks who don't follow TV's like we do. A Mini LED is still amazing in a dark room, and OLED's can now look great in a lit room. As far as the whole infinite contrast thing, I'm not a believer in it. In fact, I would say that if a TV isn't capable of being watched in a lit room, or can't properly show detail in a dark scene, it is the inferior product, not the one that can be viewed in both environments. I have tried twice to go OLED and so far, I haven't been able to do it. They just look artificially dark and crush detail too much for me, it throws me off. Sure is nice that we have such great options now tho. Don't agree with that streaming score though 😉 Love the vids and the work you keep doing man.
LG is garbage. I have an LG G2 TV and after 3 years the motherboard is toast. This is a common problem if you search the internet. Do not buy an LG TV. I have had Sony TV for 10 to 20 years with no problems. Just buy a Sony for reliability!
Aleast they can repair it but here Samsung Uk can’t fix my 8k 75 Q900R as they say it’s main board faulty and it is not available anymore. I spent £7000 on this TV, now Samsung says it’s out of warranty best they can do is offer me 15% off on my next Samsung TV purchase. Just dreadful never going back to Samsung again.
Why can't the bravia 9 keep up in gaming? Because it doesn't have infinite contrast? Why do you need it for gaming? You really shouldn't make much such broad and sweeping statements if you are not willing to back them up with facts.
I mean it's common knowledge that an OLED's infinite contrast is going to make HDR gaming look better and more impactful than a LED panel that doesn't have it. Do you need it, no. Is it superior, yes. Smarten up before calling people out.
@@jaredstokes2204It's ok to have that opinion but that's not what I'm talking about. It looks to me like some part of the video script was lost or sth like that. This statement is out of place. You can't just say that Bravia 9 can't keep up when it comes to gaming because sth. contrast. I might as well say that oleds can't keep up in gaming because of burn-in.
@@jaredstokes2204My Bravia 9 smokes my Oled in HDR Gaming and is much more impactful do research before you call someone else out we’re talking almost 1000 nits full screen with 3000nit highlights. Oled can’t compete in that department. I have both
@@jaredstokes2204 But according to Fomo's score the B9 gets a 5 for HDR impact :D. The only reason you'd prefer an OLED over an mini-LED for gaming is the better input lag. But who the hell does serious, competitive gaming on an 65" oder bigger tv to notice that tiny bit of better input lag? Most of them use gaming monitors for that. You can argue about the better contrast on OLED vs. mini-LED but in gaming they often don't get as bright as with regular content. So...
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I seriously believe alot more has to be considered when evaluating a piece of tech like a tv for what we are paying. From Sound and Speaker Quality, to OS features like smart home connectivity and ease of use, wifi antenna performance and even customer service. All those things are what you are paying for not just the screen and pixels.
Can't wait to see your U9N
@@MrUpscaleman me too
If I had $3k in my pocket I would have the wrong pants on
The LG G4 had the highest cumulative score by a couple of points, so that TV wins this shootout/comparison outright!
(Although the Panasonic will probably score high on this comparative scale as well)
cool - where is SDR rankings and content? the most widely used form, unless people are only turning their TV on to watch the latest blu-ray movies or play games? between the lack of SDR content and circlejerking over creators intent, you TV reviewers keep really dropping the ball. if your intended audience is supposed to be the public anyway, which i'm guessing so with these youtube (which is SDR ironically) videos. apologies for the tone but you guys just don't seem to get it. maybe never will.
Modern people using lots of streams these days which are relative high quality vs linear tv.
Sdr is for people who watch "cable tv shows".
Hardly a high fidelity experience where you need a high quality tv.
Sdr is a 50 year old standard? More than that?
Limitations of TV's over 50 years ago. Seriously think about how bad TVs were 50 years ago in SDR had to be built around them!
@@paulcox2447 nearly all TH-cam content is in SDR. Only 135 PS4 games out of the thousands out there have HDR capabilities and a good chunk of them have it implemented badly to the point that SDR looks better. Older movies are all in SDR too. SDR is still alive not just in cable tv and should get reviewed properly.
You mean I will not enjoy American football this season if I get the A95L? Does it still have the dimming issue in sports broadcasting?
I would take the S95D or the Bravia 9. A95L at 5K is too high and there are still people having TCon errors/issues with newer builds.
G4 is a calibrator’s dream and has wonderful features, but I can’t go back to WRGB after owning QD-OLED.
I had a Bravia 7 and a G3 side by side. The oled looked better in every category, imho. OLED gets very bright now so the lcd tech seems inferior to me.
Picking one of the four available in the video today and then updating later was probably the move 👍 I spent a lot of time watching and didn’t get an answer.
They’re all winners
The other caveat is the S95D doesn't have an 83 or 85 inch. I want the best big OLED. that sounds like the G4.... Thanks
Fomo, I need your help! I'm stuck in between selecting 2 Tvs open box and got a great deal on both. I either choose the s90D 65" at $1363 or a S95c "77 inch at $1700. I heard a lot great things about the S90d. I already have the s90c 65" which I love. This is for the living room. Is there a big difference between the both?
i hope one day im able to have the money to buy a flagship but as of now i’m beyond happy with my hisense u7k. it has all the latest tech, affordable, and looks amazing. If i wanted something significantly better i’d have to pay significantly more. nothing but compliments for hisense and tcl and i pray they continue pressuring the industry.
Thank god there are good looking affordable options. These TVs are more of a luxury.
Hisense tend to have 4k upscaling built in which is phenomenal. No other brand does it I've looked.
I was trying to decide between Bravia 9 AND A95L with a side by side comparison at best buy I was noticing how damn close the image was in HDR content, but in SDR mode the oled was so damn abysmal compared to the mini led that I HAD to buy the Bravia 9. Since honestly only 30% or less is our HDR content watching. If oled was close in SDR I definitely would of went oled, but it's still no comparison. Keep in mind both sets in vivid and no energy savings enabled.
You can't make a comparison in the store.
@@jkairi4 LOL, oh yes, yes you can. Especially when they let you control the content displayed on the screen.
Fine. I had both of those tvs in my HOME for a week and he's 100 percent correct.
@@jkairi4Years ago I bought a Sony X950G after checking at the store that I could live with its documented limitations. Big mistake, still crying about it (especially coming from plasma).
@jeanbart9458 People that make comparison in stores and purchase a TV will often times return it after watching that TV in their own home environment. I have done that myself.
Hey, do you have a video/guide showing the best settings for Samsung S95D 77”?
Bravia 9 85inch all day long
So how did the TVs perform with a 4K Blu-ray if we’re going to invest this type of money we want to see what the TV can actually do!!! Everything you’re saying is basically ridiculous, if you’re only streaming. All them are gonna look identical and sound the same. TVs can truly shine with a 4K Blu-ray. That’s where you’re gonna see the difference. Heck even a standard 1080p blueray would have been better than using streaming. You guys are reviewing TVs yet you’re not using the best quality you can as TV reviewers this should be a standard. You should be educating people on why they should want to have a 4K Blu-ray if they’re going to invest thousands of dollars into a TV.
He mentioned king of tv shootout test, there are blurays used
@@masomaf maybe I missed him say that, but still it’s the focus should be on 4K Blu-ray on top-tier TVs.
The best one.
I've been waiting on this video.
The best oled.
Then the best led.
Panasonic oled mystery tv ?
Excellent video! I have a friend that is considering one of last year's models and this video was an excellent example of expectations setting in general. I forwarded this to him as a reference. Thanks!
I go for mid-tier more Upper mid-tier like C- Series.. I've never had in interest in going flagship super expensive.. But I always go OLED..
I like WebOS over the others.
Yeah I had to dip my toes into high end Mini-LED to truly understand why I'd rather just have OLED all the time. I bought a Bravia 9 and unfortunately, despite it being very impressive as a MiniLED TV it just kept bugging me the flaws with the panel tech. I know it's not Sony explicitly that's the issue (maybe a little, in that they could probably have put a faster chip on the board to help with some of the issues I saw) as you can tell they are driving the tech almost to it's limits and achieving some picture quality I didn't expect a MiniLED to hit due to their processing algorithm. But even the almighty Sony couldn't break past all of the issues. While motion is extremely impressive for a VA Panel MiniLED, it still has very noticeable ghosting in game mode and VRR? Forget it, it looks awful. And you still have to trade off between blooming and contrast (either going medium LD for great contrast but with blooming, or high LD for excellent blooming control and deep blacks but lower overall contrast and peak brightness). It's obvious that despite throwing their best at it, the panel tech is just too limited for high-end use cases.
OLED, even midrange ones, just destroy it in game mode and in overall high motion clarity and you don't have to make the compromise between great contrast, deep black levels and blooming. Sure you don't get nearly as high of peak brightness levels/overall brightness but I'll be honest, in a dim room setting the brightness hitting 1000 nits total brightness and 2000+ peak brightness nits is overkill. It just wasn't necessary and I ended up dimming the screen anyways. That's not to say having the extra "real estate" so to speak isn't good. An OLED that can achieve that brightness or similar is great in that panel lifespan will go way up (same of LCDs) since as the panel dims over time, you can just compensate by going higher to reach the previous perceived brightness level. But yeah, unfortunately to me, MiniLED just has too many compromises right now, especially for the price point of some of them.
@desmondbrown5508 I 100% agree. This whole brightness thing, This brightness War it just doesn't mean that much to me. Yes the older OLED TVs by comparison to today's and even last year's were very very very very very dim. Hitting maybe only 300 to 400 nits. Me having an LG C1 I noticed it but only during the day. But I upgraded to an LG C3 65" and I can tell you it has blown me away. 700nits is what you need to have meaningful HDR/DV impact. The C3 hits that + and the difference it makes for highlights explosions ect ect is miraculous. To be honest I'm not even pushing the LG C3 as hard as it can go. Yes I got it up there. But I tweak my own settings and I got it in Cinema mode with my own tweaking during a bright sunny day in my living room and it is great for Moves. Game Mode is just as AWESOME.
So I don't need the 1300- 2000 nits capable TVs and I'm not willing to sacrifice perfect contrast Deep Blacks motion clarity mixed with great colors and color volume an meaningful gaming features for high brightness. Yes higher brightness means higher color volume. But movies are graded in the DCI-P3 color space and Games are sRGB and DCI-P3 witch Modern OLEDs cover 99+% of. I like my picture to look more natural and realistic rather than blown out and oversaturated.
So OLEDs for me are where it's at. The C3 does everything I want along with Cover everything I need and It's covered for 5-years(until 2029). $2000 for all that is WWEEELLL WORTH IT..
I'm either going to get the Bravia 9 or the LG G4.
Hilarious ending! You said: “Not what you expect” . . . and you got that right: Talk about an ending “out-of left field!” Ok. Until tomorrow . . . and CEDIA too coming up real quick! Never a dull moment at this time of year.
Great video! Thanks for always being there with all the info. What about motion? I have an LG C1 (good with motion) and a S90C (bad with motion) and after I bought the S90C, I realized I have a sensitivity to frame skipping and jitter/stutter. But I love the colors on the QDOLED. Sometimes the S90C is.almost unwatchable in some panning scenes because of all the jumping it does.
G4 all day, everyday! It's the very best overall TV on the planet!!!
I totally agree!!! The G4 is the best overall TV on the market.
Thinking about buying the 77 inch LG G4 but wanted to know the average price drop for Black Friday? Wanted to see if my pockets were ready for it lol. It's at 4,299 right now. I'm guessing another 600 to 700 drop in price on black Friday or am I off?
I don’t know much about TV calibration. Can you calibrate any TV ? How can you get it done? Does it make a big difference? I have a Bravia 9, what benefits would I get if it was calibrated?
It’s amazing to me how everyone is crazy about OLEDS, and I was until I got one, I sadly don’t vive with them I don’t like how dark they look, I returned the LG G3 a while ago I just couldn’t do it for how expensive that was, I just wasn’t happy with the look, contrast is amazing but at what cost? , the bright scenes look like garbage to me, and with MLA it was said that was brighter I can’t imagine how more darker they look before, white is never pure white is like yellow, also burn in is a concern to me, regardless of content, I don’t need to take care of my panel I just wanna enjoy content for years to come without worrying, my preferred choice is the Bravia 9, getting the 80” this holiday can’t wait
White is yellow? I have a c7 were white is white, had to play with settings because they will put it in some kind of warm mode.
@@masomaf lol trust me the settings didn’t help sadly , I was extremely exited but if I pay top dollar I need to love it and I didn’t
I have an a83l from last year. Really impressed with the black level and I love the Google ios. I have the tv on a dark wall, you can't differentiate the wall from the black bars on the tv. Heaven.
None of the TV can beat LG G4 i personally check other TV and found G4 is the beast.
All things considered, the Sony is Numero Uno. Better SOC and better algorithms. Samsung is your value King. LG well there great.
Unfortunately that’s a lie but you can your opinion
Come on man, dont leave us hanging like that..
What about Sony Bravia 7 ?
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what aboüt xiaomi t.v.?
Why was the S90D not considered?
This is a flagship TV comparison. S90D isn't a flagship.
@@davide4607 service menu make its the same with no matte coating tho
@@mz1929 I heard they capped peak brightness at 1500 nits
@@davide4607Its better than the S95D. Just give us glossy
How is the Bravia 7 compared to the X90L?
I orderd LG G4 because of the HDMI should I watch netflix from integrated app instead of apple TV because of the worse HDMI streaming?
Yes a better UX overall using the Apple TV.
Streaming box.
I watch everything threw Apple TV on my G4 it looks great.
I use the LGs app and it works great as well as my PS5 with no issues. You can use a Ethernet cable directly to the tv for 5he best results. Try this before you spend any money.
@@spursdynasty7378 Money is not a issue I just want the best quality. What is better? Netflix on LG TV or Netflix on Appletv?
The sony bravia 8 77inch is $1000 off at best buy, putting it at 2899. Worth it or should I wait for black Friday?
I hope It gets down to around $2299 or less , $2899 Is still way more than I'd pay for that. S90D 77 could also hit around $1999 for black friday. I only want 77 Inches though nothing less , I think they know that's the size everyone wants that's why the prices on 77 oleds barely ever go down much , while 65 inch prices constantly drop.
Yeah, BF is probably the best option unless you wait till Super Bowl time or next spring by then the new models will come out. I’m in the same situation…BF or early November is looking like the best time. I want mine for football season but if I save at least 3 to five hundred dollars then it will be worth it. More money for Christmas gifts 😂
The QM8 has better blooming control than the B9 in normal scenes except that starfield scene which they chose to brighten the specular highlights more. I also think the B9 looks more hazy in comparison and the TCL has better colour saturation. I actually think the QM8 looks more eye pleasing than the B9 provided you get the right settings in.
Thanks FOMO. I was just thinking wow it's been a while since we had 4 flagships of this quality, now you're telling me there's a 5th? sheesh. 2024 is stacked!!
Oh, and a personal note since I'll be looking at 75” tv’s. Since the Hisense U8N uses a different panel in that size, I would appreciate it if you would include it.
Really need ur help very much debating qn900d or a g4 in a living room that day time has a few windows? Any advice greatly appreciated
Please do this for more reasonably priced tv’s, for those of us with a lower budget.
I'm ready for a new TV soon, its between the QN90D or the Bravia 7. I can't find a comparison video of the two.
It's a pain, but should buy them both from Best Buy live with them for 2 weeks and then make your decision.
@@vidsbfree4me I might have too, shame that reviews are not talking about those. I need a 55in so the Bravia 9 doesn't come in that size.
Samsung S9AD - gloss version of s95d.
*Where Will b d sdr Vs hdr CoMparison..!?*
Without a doubt the Samsung S90D. But I'm getting the S95D open box.
Thanks FOMO!!
Something isn't fare at all. I want to see reviews on the new SHARP TVs. I own a 2013 80" Sharp Aquos Television and it still works 100% today even though it's a 1080p, 120hz
Panel. Full Array with no local dimming but Blacks are excellent even in the dark, a little grey. Motion Blur is almost none existent and no Soap Opera Effect, fast motion is excellent better than than Samsung S95D which was a mess. Please review the new Sharp Televisions.
FOMO: What do you think of the LG G2 97 inch OLED? In Canada it lists at $ 35,000.00
Hello Vincent
I see That Panasonic are Releasing there New Range of 2024 Tvs from the Z95 Down to the W85 in The USA 🇺🇸 Market From 18 September 2024 The only Difference I have read so far is The Remote for the USA 🇺🇸 is Different from the European /UK 🇬🇧 Remote. Will you be doing a Review on the Z95 , Z85, W95, on one of your Channels. If not you your friend Brian
Hopefully you do one or more.
Bravia 9 has a streaming internal and streaming HDMI score of 3 makes it a poor choice as a TV to purchase in the era of streaming.
Then use an apple tv Spock
This is Fomo’s subjective opinion. With Reality Creation set to Auto and Smooth Gradation Low, the Bravia 9 will clean up streaming content just fine.
@j.rfrazier1855 What about viewing angles and blacks, usually LEDs fall short in those areas.
Streaming looks phenomenal on the Bravia 9 don’t always believe what you see. Check it out for yourself
This score is kinda a joke because he justifies it with the lack of “infinite contrast” and “off-angle viewing” on the B9. He already deducted a few points for off-angle viewing in accuracy, so why bring it up again for streaming? By that logic, you can also bring it up for gaming and sports. Instead, it would have been better to mention image processing in this category, after all, the A95L was given all the flowers in this category last year, in terms of the subtle, artificial image processing (sharpening etc) that the B9 also offers.
Wait didn't everyone say the audio on a95l was brilliant. So is s90d the real winner. Can you do this for mid range
thank you for this video. this finally got me to stop that Bravia 9 curiosity, the LG G4, and since Samsung processor and upscaling are not as good as the others. This narrows me to the A95L. I wanted a bigger TV, but I think I would enjoy the perfect 65" vs like a Bravia 8 77".... I want 77" but, my A80J, while being a great TV, leaves a little to be desired. Otherwise, I wouldn't even be looking.
Suprise tv.. may I take a guess?
Panasonic is using lg oleds (mla) and they do release models this year and they have additional speakers.
They release al kinds of oleds.
Also
A german company named Metz is making oleds too, dont know which panel factory they use.
I will make links below..
My guess is the mystery tv is the 75”/85” Hisense U9N!! 🎉 although they do have the 98UX still supposed to come out with crazy stats!! The U9N has been on the BB website for a while now but. It available. I’m excited to see if Hisense can finally prove all the ADS/IPS panel haters wrong!!! 🎉 imo, the ads panel trade offs in contrast Vs viewing angle are minuscule! Plus VA screens feel “cheap” to me when you touch it. (Notice slight waves in BB display models on VA) 🎉
A bit surprised S95d is behind for gaming , where color pop is very noticeable, and supposed to be superior to LG WOLED color
Lg tv’s are really gamer friendly almost as long as they had oleds.
Happily in the Uk Samsung have at year warranty too.
Great video. Is Qned85 actually mini led or is it edge led ?
yes 2024 model is edge lit STAY AWAY
@@stopthefomoThat is bad, why did they downgrade?
I use g4 for pc its unbelievable
Fomo please do the QM 8 versus the Bravia 7 I'd love to see the results
Why are the motion setting on the A95L better then on the B9?
I like how motion is rendered on QD-OLED generally and you'll likely only see this in sports where infinite contrast makes a bigger difference in motion resolution but they are essentially very close to indistinguishable more often than not
The best is if you had 3000$ you should buy the s90d and use that extra money towards anything
Where is WOLED SONY
This is null and void without the Panasonic z95 A and yeah I know not on the US market but still you tube is worldwide .
Panasonic is irrelevant.
I think he has hinted at a Panasonic return to the states, and no they are not irrelevant. If they come back to the US market they’ll always compete as the top TV
This is AMERICA.
@@MrUpscaleman no this is You tube
@@jkairi4 your irrelevant
Anyone have any ideas what the new flagship is?
I dont think lg is at the top for gaming anymore. Most of them limit the brightness to much and lock settings unnecessarily. Also, the great processing you pay for is completely locked out, leading to things like banding in many games. Samsung should be the top for gaming, especially on their oleds, sony second for the gradation and not locking settings and lg 3rd.
I had to download a separate app called color control to unlock the true capabilities of my G3 for Sdr, which most games are made for. You shouldn't have to do that, when you pay 3,000$ you should have options, and when they update these features in there next tv's, those updates should come to the ones 2 to 3 years prior. Last note on weird lg limitations, the 21:9 and 32:9 modes are limited to 60hz instead of 120hz like on the samsung, but funny enough, you can easily avoid the frame limit by playing in windowed borderless mode lol.
Hey buddy😊
LABOR IS FAR MORE EXPENSIVE THAN PANELS.
The LG 5 year warranty will cost you a fortune to fix.
But the other brands dont do anything. Warranty is dependent on store and country..
@@masomaf that's why you go buy a THIRD PARTY EXTENDED WARRANTY that covers PARTS AND LABOR.
Hell, Costco tvs all come with it.
Be prepared for the surprise if you call LG to fix a 4 year old G4.
@@MrUpscaleman You don’t need capitals to make your point, I can read small letters fine from my phone oleds panel..
I live in europe.
Electronics 2 years warranty by law.
Lg delivers 5 yrs on panel. Thus 3 yrs longer..
Costco does not exist here..
@@masomaf my what an ego to assume my comment was limited to you and you only.
@@MrUpscaleman bla bla bla over and out
panasonic 2024?
TEASE!!!
Mystery TV , is it Panasonic OLED?
Philips 959?!?
what 90+" would you buy for under 5 grand?
TCL QM8 FOR SURE currently $3998 howl.me/cm1eXtB8cvz
@@stopthefomo thank you
I know it's a Vizio (LOL)
If I had $10,000, I'd have a Bravia 9 and A95L on two separate carts, and roll each one in my viewing area according to my lighting conditions, as well as what I'm watching.
@@chriskelly1740 horses too?
lol ❤
Fomo teasing us with a new flagship tv, so mean. :P
QD OLED is always better than WOLED.
Your bias shows through, but there's nothing wrong with that. There's a tv for everyone.
😂😂😂
Dont buy Samsung i have the s95c firmware totally broke earc
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Most likely mystery tv = hisense u9n
So sick of this stupid dark room/bright room nonsense. I appreciate the Bravia 9 and Mini-Led more in a dark room than a lit room. There are a couple really dumb narratives in TV land that need to stop and this is one of them
It’s still a fact, your sensitivity to shadow detail increases in a dark room, but it doesn’t mean your TV isn’t awesome.
@@stopthefomo yeah, I'm referring to the whole this TV for dark room, that TV for bright room narrative. It drives me insane and it really confuses the folks who don't follow TV's like we do. A Mini LED is still amazing in a dark room, and OLED's can now look great in a lit room. As far as the whole infinite contrast thing, I'm not a believer in it. In fact, I would say that if a TV isn't capable of being watched in a lit room, or can't properly show detail in a dark scene, it is the inferior product, not the one that can be viewed in both environments. I have tried twice to go OLED and so far, I haven't been able to do it. They just look artificially dark and crush detail too much for me, it throws me off. Sure is nice that we have such great options now tho. Don't agree with that streaming score though 😉
Love the vids and the work you keep doing man.
LG is garbage. I have an LG G2 TV and after 3 years the motherboard is toast. This is a common problem if you search the internet. Do not buy an LG TV. I have had Sony TV for 10 to 20 years with no problems. Just buy a Sony for reliability!
Ok but you have a 5 year warranty to replace it?
5 year warranty is for panel only. You’re responsible for everything else.
@@Jodez23 And what additional costs are you suggesting? Shipping?
No sony pony
Aleast they can repair it but here Samsung Uk can’t fix my 8k 75 Q900R as they say it’s main board faulty and it is not available anymore. I spent £7000 on this TV, now Samsung says it’s out of warranty best they can do is offer me 15% off on my next Samsung TV purchase. Just dreadful never going back to Samsung again.
Why can't the bravia 9 keep up in gaming? Because it doesn't have infinite contrast? Why do you need it for gaming? You really shouldn't make much such broad and sweeping statements if you are not willing to back them up with facts.
I mean it's common knowledge that an OLED's infinite contrast is going to make HDR gaming look better and more impactful than a LED panel that doesn't have it. Do you need it, no. Is it superior, yes. Smarten up before calling people out.
@@jaredstokes2204It's ok to have that opinion but that's not what I'm talking about. It looks to me like some part of the video script was lost or sth like that. This statement is out of place. You can't just say that Bravia 9 can't keep up when it comes to gaming because sth. contrast. I might as well say that oleds can't keep up in gaming because of burn-in.
@@jaredstokes2204My Bravia 9 smokes my Oled in HDR Gaming and is much more impactful do research before you call someone else out we’re talking almost 1000 nits full screen with 3000nit highlights. Oled can’t compete in that department. I have both
@@jaredstokes2204 But according to Fomo's score the B9 gets a 5 for HDR impact :D. The only reason you'd prefer an OLED over an mini-LED for gaming is the better input lag. But who the hell does serious, competitive gaming on an 65" oder bigger tv to notice that tiny bit of better input lag? Most of them use gaming monitors for that. You can argue about the better contrast on OLED vs. mini-LED but in gaming they often don't get as bright as with regular content. So...
@@MrHorst38 it can definitely keep up in gaming it’s absolutely the best at HDR gaming 1000nit full screen and 3000nit highlights yea..it’s ridiculous
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So Hisense U9N????
Bestbuy qn800c 1999$ 75"