Most of these problems are beginner problems. Real riders don’t need gear indicators. What did riders do for 50 years without them? If you hand or wrist hurts its because you aren’t riding properly.
I’ll agree about the bars and the aches in the hands/wrists but with an asterisk *. My commute home from work is only 25 km but is stop and go bumper to bumper most of the way. About 45 minutes. By the end, my 50 year old hands are feeling a little tired and needing a break. However on a ride of 800 km, 11 hours in the saddle (Sargent) I was still good to go physically. I find the pace affects how the overall ergonomics feel.
I have the identical bike in fact it's #.......0003 , so 3rd one made. I'm 66 years old and this is my 35th bike, I LOVE IT, I find it comfortable enough for 400 to 600 KM rides, it can power wheelie, (without clutch) and I find it very smooth, handles great, but one thing I did add was bar risers, and that helped a lot.
#1. I changed to a Corbin seat on my VFR and found it less comfortable than the stock seat. You can save your butt by raising it when you hit bumps in the road. #2. If you learn to ride with your arms loose, and use your back to support you, it will strengthen your back, keep pressure from your wrists and will allow the bike to literally dance under you (hint from Reg Pridmore's Superbike School), #3. I've accumulated well over 60,000 miles on four VFR's, including a number of track days; while it's no superbike, I've found the pegs to be almost perfectly located. #4. My latest VFR, a 2014, has a gear indicator which I find novel but frankly useless. Beyond a reliable indicator for neutral, I find no benefit to knowing what gear it is in, as the engine will always tell you when it wants to be in a higher or lower gear. As you note, "it's not a big deal." #5. The 6th gen headlights are not bad, but the HID bulb replacement will change your whole opinion of night riding and even during the day do a much better job of warning cagers that you're coming. There is no perfect motorcycle, but if you spend time in the saddle of other machines, you'll find this one hits the sweet spots!
60,000 miles over four bike? What a wuss. Lets see, I put 32,500 on my 05 B4 she was stolen (I know, who the fuck steals a VFR right?). Then 22,300 on 07 that I replaced my 05 with until some cager tried to kill me coming back from Vegas and destroyed her. Lucky to get another 28k on the replacement 07 until a lil shit ran a red. Was only able to get 14,200 on my 8th gen 14 until a drunk tried to kill me but I was lucky enough to be able to get back in the saddle, find a SUPER clean 07 with under 2k miles and have put in another 5200 on her. 9 years, 5 bikes, 102,300 (&counting) miles. Get some miles in ya SLACKER ;^)
I bought a 2007 Interceptor ABS in early 2016, and have put about 8,000 miles on it since. You're right, the stock seat is uncomfortable--I bought a used Sargent seat on eBay and it has made all the difference. Clip-ons are a little low, until you take it on twisty roads (which fortunately we have not far from home and I go out of my way to find), then they're just right. Finally, I like the look of the front end, but didn't enjoy the hours it took to replace both main beam bulbs when one burned out. It's a real pain in the ass replacing them unless you've got tiny skinny snake-like hands and fingers (which actually I do and it still didn't help). All that said, the engine is buttery smooth, there's more than enough torque and power for me, the handling is superb and I love the way she looks.
Like you said, this is your own opinion... As far as the clip ons, you shouldn't put weight on your hands/wrists. You've got to squeeze the tank with your knees and keep yourself upright using your abs muscles like when you're on sport bike...As far as the seat goes, I find it OK but if you upgrade to a Corbin/Sargent, you'll see the difference. I've had so many bikes over the years and I've always had a VFR among them a a second bike. My experience on Honda's V4 goes way back in early 80's. Interceptor 750 1984, Interceptor 1000 1985, Interceptor 750 1990, VFR800 2003 and now, a VFR800 2015 and it's always nice to ride it. Most of the bikes I've owned over the years were Super Sport bikes...
I just installed some foam Grab-On grip covers on my 2015 cbr300r and they seem to really help cut down on hand fatigue. They're really cheap too so it wouldn't cost much at all to give them a try.
uwwdelta Thanks for the recommendation. I actually sold the bike recently for financial reasons. Next bike will be the new cb1000r once I have the money!
I think you are the first person I’ve ever heard say that the VFR is uncomfortable. It seems like a simple thing, you sit down and see what you think; but in reality, it takes some time to get accustomed to it ( as I’m sure you know ). On a VFR, 500 miles should be done in 1 week, or 1 weekend, not 1 1/2 months. That said, city riding is not a comfortable endeavor on most sporty bikes, so if that’s where you ride then I completely understand. I’ll have to agree with you on the headlights, I’ve never been too fond of them. Thank You for the review!
Wrexicate honestly I loved the bike. I am nitpicking in this video because there aren’t many bad things I can say about this bike. But yeah, mostly city riding is my style and in the end it wasn’t for me. I chose the Yamaha FZ09 as it’s replacement
I have a 2007 VFR 800 and I love mine!! After I bought it I decided to figure out how well she could do a burnout and I was pleasantly surprised!! She smoked up the Dunlop real easy.😎
Did an 800km ride on my 2002 vfr800 last year. It was quite comfortable for the first 700km then my bum started to get a bit numb. Overall I would say this is a comfortable bike.
yankeedoodledandy11 I did sell it. I feel like people don’t get the point of a video like this. There’s obviously a bunch of things I liked about this bike. However, every 5 things I hate video has 5 things you hate about the bike/car or whatever...
@@treecityrider5232 I appreciate that but the things you hate are just nitpicking. I have s VFR and there a certain things I dislike, but to say I hate them is a bit strong. I dislike how long it takes the engine to warm up before VTEC works effectively. I dislike that it is top heavy and can easily be dropped. I guess I was looking for problems and not personal preferences.
I agree but I wouldn’t put it in that class. I would compare the Honda st 1300 with the FJR. I thing the VFR looks way better that both of those and your anniversary edition tops it for me!
i got the same bike and was interested in your opinion. As you write ..it is your personal opinion. And yes I disagree in some points: The seat - yes it seems to bee to "cheap" for this bike, but it has never given me any problems - and I take some very long trips. Also the clip ons i like - I love the riding position because you can ride relaxed or more sportlike according to your mood. Im interested in hearing your opinion about the engine because thats what make the bike special. It has taken me some time to learn how to put the throttle on in the corners in the best way...but im getting there - what do you think?
Per Arnoldi I agree that the engine took a few days to get used to. The change from 6000 to 7 with the vtec kicking in can be choppy on the throttle when coming out of turns. But I learned to like it. It feels like a turbo kicking in
Understanding it is not specifically designed for passenger comfort, is it decent as far as the Sport Tour models go? I missed out on an 84 VF1000 but have bought into the nostalgia and what the VFour is about, and this bike looks like it would tickle the itch when the time is right for me. I'd be solo for 80% of the time, but wouldn't want my passenger to hate being on the back. Do you have any input on passenger comfort?
Lol, do you feel like a big man now? . Congratulations for your attempt to put someone down on TH-cam today. When you’re giving your boyfriend a reach around tonight, I hope you feel good about yourself.
thestar111 Many. First bike was a 2007 Kawasaki 636. Gsxr 600, 750 and 1000. Cbr 600, cbr 600 f4i, some cruisers, my old nighthawk 750, fz09, fz6r and several others I’ve tested over the years
it seems like it is all about appearance to you. where is your valuation of the functionality versus appearance? Do you recognize it costs more money to plate surfaces which makes them stronger, easier to clean, and observable for defects? If you want painted black stuff buy a Chinese bike, right?
Really surprised about the comments here that were apparently made by ppl who don't realize that he likes his bike but just listed little things he liked least.
@@r.williamcomm7693 At the time I made this video, it was very popular to do a top 5 things you dislike about your motorcycle/car etc. but people are keyboard warriors. I just ignored them lol. Thanks for the comment.
@treecityrider5232 👍 You made an excellent video. I used to be amazed at ppl who obviously commented after being triggered by headlines without reading the articles. But for the last few years it's even ppl who comment without listening to what's said I'm the video. Thinking hard about getting a VFR 800 but since I already have 2 bikes in excellent shape, I needed an excellent video like yours so that I'm aware of what I'm getting into with this bike. Thank you for taking the time to help other riders with your videos. 👍 Stay safe and good luck with everything. ☘️
No OE motorcycle seat is comfortable. Manufacturers design them to sell the bike, so it looks good on the showroom floor. There's absolutely NO incentive for them to make the seat comfortable for longer than the test ride. Everyone knows this (or should). There's a reason there's a dozen different aftermarket seat manufacturers out there. As for comfort, the bike is a SPORT tourer. If you want a sport TOURER, look at an ST1300.
That is an old worn out seat that obviously wasn't taken care of or probably even garaged. Based on your handlebar and seat complaints it is evident you do not practice proper riding position; you should not be using your wrists to support you. Can of black enamel spraypaint is like $8. If you wanted a gsxr you should buy one, totally different animal. I learned a cool trick in kindergarten; I can count from 0 all the way up to 6 and back down again. Sounds like you didn't buy the right bike for you.
I put 500 miles on in a weekend. You should have done your homework bud. You clearly are a new rider, you don't need a gear indicator if you are paying attention to your riding. I don't think you're cut out for motorcycling, most of us will get on and ride anything just to ride. Complaining about how the legendary VFR because it's not a GSXR. BTW, I've had a GSXR, you would hate that too, they are track bikes basically. A GSXR would kick your butt dude, you're coming from a Nighthawk 750. And how can you only put only 500 miles on it? No, just sell it and buy a KTM 330.
I have this exact bike. You're high. The VFR is legendary.
“You’re high”. Made me laugh. I have this bike. You’re right. High or inexperienced.
Most of these problems are beginner problems. Real riders don’t need gear indicators. What did riders do for 50 years without them? If you hand or wrist hurts its because you aren’t riding properly.
i agree i rirde 05 636 too and can ride it for hours now those bars are uncomfortable but you learn how to keep your elbows bent
I’ll agree about the bars and the aches in the hands/wrists but with an asterisk *. My commute home from work is only 25 km but is stop and go bumper to bumper most of the way. About 45 minutes. By the end, my 50 year old hands are feeling a little tired and needing a break. However on a ride of 800 km, 11 hours in the saddle (Sargent) I was still good to go physically. I find the pace affects how the overall ergonomics feel.
Gear indicator? WTF you don't even know what gear you are in and you make a video? Idiot alert...
I have the identical bike in fact it's #.......0003 , so 3rd one made. I'm 66 years old and this is my 35th bike, I LOVE IT, I find it comfortable enough for 400 to 600 KM rides, it can power wheelie, (without clutch) and I find it very smooth, handles great, but one thing I did add was bar risers, and that helped a lot.
Your opinion is your own, but since you posted, you're not going to get a lot of consensus.
They are the best headlights on any motorcycle I've driven
#1. I changed to a Corbin seat on my VFR and found it less comfortable than the stock seat. You can save your butt by raising it when you hit bumps in the road. #2. If you learn to ride with your arms loose, and use your back to support you, it will strengthen your back, keep pressure from your wrists and will allow the bike to literally dance under you (hint from Reg Pridmore's Superbike School), #3. I've accumulated well over 60,000 miles on four VFR's, including a number of track days; while it's no superbike, I've found the pegs to be almost perfectly located. #4. My latest VFR, a 2014, has a gear indicator which I find novel but frankly useless. Beyond a reliable indicator for neutral, I find no benefit to knowing what gear it is in, as the engine will always tell you when it wants to be in a higher or lower gear. As you note, "it's not a big deal." #5. The 6th gen headlights are not bad, but the HID bulb replacement will change your whole opinion of night riding and even during the day do a much better job of warning cagers that you're coming. There is no perfect motorcycle, but if you spend time in the saddle of other machines, you'll find this one hits the sweet spots!
60,000 miles over four bike? What a wuss. Lets see, I put 32,500 on my 05 B4 she was stolen (I know, who the fuck steals a VFR right?). Then 22,300 on 07 that I replaced my 05 with until some cager tried to kill me coming back from Vegas and destroyed her. Lucky to get another 28k on the replacement 07 until a lil shit ran a red. Was only able to get 14,200 on my 8th gen 14 until a drunk tried to kill me but I was lucky enough to be able to get back in the saddle, find a SUPER clean 07 with under 2k miles and have put in another 5200 on her.
9 years, 5 bikes, 102,300 (&counting) miles. Get some miles in ya SLACKER ;^)
I bought a 2007 Interceptor ABS in early 2016, and have put about 8,000 miles on it since. You're right, the stock seat is uncomfortable--I bought a used Sargent seat on eBay and it has made all the difference. Clip-ons are a little low, until you take it on twisty roads (which fortunately we have not far from home and I go out of my way to find), then they're just right. Finally, I like the look of the front end, but didn't enjoy the hours it took to replace both main beam bulbs when one burned out. It's a real pain in the ass replacing them unless you've got tiny skinny snake-like hands and fingers (which actually I do and it still didn't help). All that said, the engine is buttery smooth, there's more than enough torque and power for me, the handling is superb and I love the way she looks.
I've never understood the want for a gear indicator, do folk really not remember?
Like you said, this is your own opinion... As far as the clip ons, you shouldn't put weight on your hands/wrists. You've got to squeeze the tank with your knees and keep yourself upright using your abs muscles like when you're on sport bike...As far as the seat goes, I find it OK but if you upgrade to a Corbin/Sargent, you'll see the difference. I've had so many bikes over the years and I've always had a VFR among them a a second bike. My experience on Honda's V4 goes way back in early 80's. Interceptor 750 1984, Interceptor 1000 1985, Interceptor 750 1990, VFR800 2003 and now, a VFR800 2015 and it's always nice to ride it. Most of the bikes I've owned over the years were Super Sport bikes...
Your opinion change since you made this video?
I fucking LOVE the anniversary paint. But I got such a good deal on a red 05 with 12k...
Just sell it and stop crying, I love this motorcycle one of the best motorcycle
I just installed some foam Grab-On grip covers on my 2015 cbr300r and they seem to really help cut down on hand fatigue. They're really cheap too so it wouldn't cost much at all to give them a try.
uwwdelta Thanks for the recommendation. I actually sold the bike recently for financial reasons. Next bike will be the new cb1000r once I have the money!
I think you are the first person I’ve ever heard say that the VFR is uncomfortable. It seems like a simple thing, you sit down and see what you think; but in reality, it takes some time to get accustomed to it ( as I’m sure you know ). On a VFR, 500 miles should be done in 1 week, or 1 weekend, not 1 1/2 months. That said, city riding is not a comfortable endeavor on most sporty bikes, so if that’s where you ride then I completely understand. I’ll have to agree with you on the headlights, I’ve never been too fond of them.
Thank You for the review!
Wrexicate honestly I loved the bike. I am nitpicking in this video because there aren’t many bad things I can say about this bike. But yeah, mostly city riding is my style and in the end it wasn’t for me. I chose the Yamaha FZ09 as it’s replacement
I have a 2007 VFR 800 and I love mine!! After I bought it I decided to figure out how well she could do a burnout and I was pleasantly surprised!! She smoked up the Dunlop real easy.😎
Did an 800km ride on my 2002 vfr800 last year. It was quite comfortable for the first 700km then my bum started to get a bit numb. Overall I would say this is a comfortable bike.
You bought the wrong bike. Sounds like you want sport bike performance but don't want to (or know how to) ride a sport bike.
If you don't like it, sell it. If you can moan about a VFR 800, you won't be happy with anything though. Trust me!
yankeedoodledandy11 I did sell it. I feel like people don’t get the point of a video like this. There’s obviously a bunch of things I liked about this bike. However, every 5 things I hate video has 5 things you hate about the bike/car or whatever...
@@treecityrider5232 I appreciate that but the things you hate are just nitpicking. I have s VFR and there a certain things I dislike, but to say I hate them is a bit strong. I dislike how long it takes the engine to warm up before VTEC works effectively. I dislike that it is top heavy and can easily be dropped. I guess I was looking for problems and not personal preferences.
get real. looks like u ridin for 6 weeks in total
Tooooooo much whining.
If u think that is uncomfortable how did u ride GSXR ?
Mark Luciani My point was that for a bike that is considered sport touring, it’s not comfortable in comparison to say an Fj1300.
I agree but I wouldn’t put it in that class. I would compare the Honda st 1300 with the FJR. I thing the VFR looks way better that both of those and your anniversary edition tops it for me!
Sell it and get a car. You don’t deserve one of the best bike made
i got the same bike and was interested in your opinion. As you write ..it is your personal opinion. And yes I disagree in some points: The seat - yes it seems to bee to "cheap" for this bike, but it has never given me any problems - and I take some very long trips. Also the clip ons i like - I love the riding position because you can ride relaxed or more sportlike according to your mood. Im interested in hearing your opinion about the engine because thats what make the bike special. It has taken me some time to learn how to put the throttle on in the corners in the best way...but im getting there - what do you think?
Per Arnoldi I agree that the engine took a few days to get used to. The change from 6000 to 7 with the vtec kicking in can be choppy on the throttle when coming out of turns. But I learned to like it. It feels like a turbo kicking in
Understanding it is not specifically designed for passenger comfort, is it decent as far as the Sport Tour models go? I missed out on an 84 VF1000 but have bought into the nostalgia and what the VFour is about, and this bike looks like it would tickle the itch when the time is right for me. I'd be solo for 80% of the time, but wouldn't want my passenger to hate being on the back. Do you have any input on passenger comfort?
I drove a 750 VFR for years...until I bought the 800 VTEC. You have 5 crybaby whines. Keep it up and your girlfriend will leave you.
Lol, do you feel like a big man now? . Congratulations for your attempt to put someone down on TH-cam today. When you’re giving your boyfriend a reach around tonight, I hope you feel good about yourself.
What other bikes have you driven?
thestar111 Many. First bike was a 2007 Kawasaki 636. Gsxr 600, 750 and 1000. Cbr 600, cbr 600 f4i, some cruisers, my old nighthawk 750, fz09, fz6r and several others I’ve tested over the years
U should try on the zx14r (zzr1400)
I Love this bike ..... Always wanted one of these....Great vlog
it seems like it is all about appearance to you. where is your valuation of the functionality versus appearance? Do you recognize it costs more money to plate surfaces which makes them stronger, easier to clean, and observable for defects? If you want painted black stuff buy a Chinese bike, right?
looks like it was left out in the sun too long, and exposed to extreme weather. get a cover or a garage.
Why the hell did you buy the bike......I hope you grow into it.
Really surprised about the comments here that were apparently made by ppl who don't realize that he likes his bike but just listed little things he liked least.
@@r.williamcomm7693 At the time I made this video, it was very popular to do a top 5 things you dislike about your motorcycle/car etc. but people are keyboard warriors. I just ignored them lol. Thanks for the comment.
@treecityrider5232 👍 You made an excellent video. I used to be amazed at ppl who obviously commented after being triggered by headlines without reading the articles. But for the last few years it's even ppl who comment without listening to what's said I'm the video. Thinking hard about getting a VFR 800 but since I already have 2 bikes in excellent shape, I needed an excellent video like yours so that I'm aware of what I'm getting into with this bike. Thank you for taking the time to help other riders with your videos. 👍 Stay safe and good luck with everything. ☘️
yo, the seat is damaged the foam is bad
No OE motorcycle seat is comfortable. Manufacturers design them to sell the bike, so it looks good on the showroom floor. There's absolutely NO incentive for them to make the seat comfortable for longer than the test ride. Everyone knows this (or should). There's a reason there's a dozen different aftermarket seat manufacturers out there.
As for comfort, the bike is a SPORT tourer. If you want a sport TOURER, look at an ST1300.
Don’t say that’s why the market is all messed up now...
Just say if you want a tourer get an st1300
If you want a sport tourer get a vfr800
That is an old worn out seat that obviously wasn't taken care of or probably even garaged. Based on your handlebar and seat complaints it is evident you do not practice proper riding position; you should not be using your wrists to support you. Can of black enamel spraypaint is like $8. If you wanted a gsxr you should buy one, totally different animal. I learned a cool trick in kindergarten; I can count from 0 all the way up to 6 and back down again. Sounds like you didn't buy the right bike for you.
We don't need no stinking gear indicators. My '87 VFR700 could pull well thru the same corner in 3 different gears.
I put 500 miles on in a weekend. You should have done your homework bud. You clearly are a new rider, you don't need a gear indicator if you are paying attention to your riding. I don't think you're cut out for motorcycling, most of us will get on and ride anything just to ride. Complaining about how the legendary VFR because it's not a GSXR. BTW, I've had a GSXR, you would hate that too, they are track bikes basically. A GSXR would kick your butt dude, you're coming from a Nighthawk 750. And how can you only put only 500 miles on it? No, just sell it and buy a KTM 330.
Mate, you have no idea about motorcycles..
All bullshit problems, that just aren't problems. Or are easily sorted. Just dont bother.
Bro is complaining about a bike i would kill for “the color” just go and ride it ffs that why you bought it and f GSXR
ALL honda seats suck on sportbikes, like sitting on a stone.
you sound like a new rider who needs a gear indicator listen to the tone of the engine it aint rocket science
Terrible review
Yo! The headlights look like a BMW. I give you my Suzuki bandit for your shit
Wow pretty crappy video. I have an 05 and disagree with most of your comments...Peace.
Enlightened Idiot congratulations.
@@treecityrider5232 lol thanks...
Nice color
are you on glue bud
That thing is ugga ugga ugggly...Yikes! Other then that i’m sure it fine.
Inexperience...
😂
You're mental. I have the same one. One of best all arounders out there...
Bla bla bla bla 🤦🏼