Getting a vintage bus road worthy again. 1950’s gm 4104 needs lots of repairs Part 1
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ส.ค. 2024
- Getting this vintage gm bus back safely on the road is going to be a huge project. Part getting it running again after sitting, 1 king pins were very bad and difficult to remove.
I'm an Industrial mechanic not an auto mechanic because I hate the new cars. Can't do anything unless you have specialty tools for the motor. In some cases having to drop the motor for what would be a simple repair. There is something about these old buses though. You open the back hatch and there it is...everything you need to get to pretty much and they aren't foo foo motors. Cast Iron behemothes that come to life out of the grave yard! Love watching you guys work on them! retirement is around the corner for me. These old buses look like some fun to work on.
I would disagree with you on the V engines.... they look like a nightmare to work on in these buses...
@@ricksmith4736 just the opposite. They could swap any motor out quickly to keep in service.
Worked on quite a number of buses with Detroit engines. They are all a bit tight to get to. The transverse 6l71 is a bit better, but not by much. Cat, Cummins and Series 60 are tight and difficult to get valve covers off. 6V and 8V Detroits are a squeeze to do a tuneup or replace the air compressor or alternator.
@lordkevork Yes, pulling the engine and transmission assembly out is relatively easy. Tuneups, especially with Jake brakes, alternator and air compressor replacement are a tight fit and are performed with the engines installed.
The engineers knew these engines were junk so they designed them with quick change drivetrains.
0:15 I like watching your videos, My Dad had a 1952 GMC PGA3301 built for the US Army that he converted into a Motor Home. He used it until 1976 when the insurance was too high. It was sold years after his passing in 1977. I'm currently retired, and I was trying to purchase a Bus, however, my loan was declined due to it's age (1995). I've currently put my desire on the shelf, however, why I haven't thought about it, after your video about setting up a Bus for your Daughter and Son in Law, and helping to pay for it with sweat equity, That would be something I would like to do. I am rather handy with tools, and not afraid to get dirty. Again, I truly enjoy your videos. Have a wonderful and blessed day!
Years ago, after graduating from a Diesel class at a local Community college, my friend went to work at a local Diesel Truck repair shop.. After a year or so, he moved 150 miles away and went to work at a Cummins repair shop working there for 10 plus years....
We are both in our late 60's now... After watching Grease Monkey and Ol2 stroker on you tube I have learned a little about detroit diesels..
My friend and I were talking the other day on the phone, and told him what I was watching... He chuckled a bit and said " I went to work for cummins so I would NEVER have to work on a oil leaking Detroit ever again......... News to me....
Thank you for using a Rose Bud tip on the oxy-acetylene torch, it really gets me when so many people will use a cutting torch for heating up a part, it seems they do not understand that the cutting torch is designed to heat a small area rapidly for the cutting process . Enjoy your posting about keeping the older busses on the road.
I love to watch stubborn parts finally yield to the mighty force of power tools.
I was amazed at how good that head looked. That Detroit sounded pretty good when it decided to fire up. Pretty impressive for sitting for so long.
What a testament to the quality of the build that went into these vehicles
Thank you for posting all of the interesting informative videos. Takes me back to times with things were built to be used for generations. The old school values of a positive circle of support is still with a percentage of Americans. Have a most wonderful day !!!
I like the vintage bus revivals, nice work.
Love the shape of these GM buses. They are very attractive (even under all that grease). Best thing about the videos is hearing you run the engine.
yeah she was sure stuck on 😊
Great to see old school mechanic work still exists
man, that kingpin removal tool sure saves a lot of beating and cussing doesnt it? lol,,, looking forward to the progress!
Yea the kingpin press is a time saver
I remember working with all hand tools. Not on busses though. I can imagine how hard it would be. Even using those
old 1" impact wrenches that weighed 80 pounds
I could feel the heat from that torch through my screen! 🔥
The crust and the dirt and the corrosion really give these big old parts such an organic look, like they grew and weren't built. Calling these buses old beasts really feels appropriate
Awesome video. I wish I could have had someone to teach me and work with me like this hands on.
Powerplant sounds pretty good really...
Thanx for saving all these old rigs, Scott and co..
love these videos .
✌️❤️😁
You got a great shop hand.. I miss Working on heavy equipment... Keep up the great work. I love the videos.
What a piece of BUS. I can’t forget when I was a young boy and I travel from Lima Peru To Santiago in the early 70’ In those time was the best bus you could take in PERU. And was great challenge for the Chilean’s buses they have like Mercedes Bens 0302 a fantastic German Bus. TEPSA also use Lenny’s Brothers. To bad I can't post pics of those buses
That old bus sounds good!
Nice! breaking out the "Fire Wrench" to loosen those nuts and bolts
So much crap goes flying when doing the work. Take a look at Spoggles for Jonathan’s eye protection. They seal well around the eyes.
I love 3751s and 4104s but they are worn out machines that haven't been maintained for decades requiring astronomical costs to make them safe and reliable again.
Nice video of king pin removal you used all your tools to get this one out.
The humble air hammer is my favourite tool in the world, and I'm guessing it might be one of yours, too. Very nice bus, can't wait to see more of it.
Must be that new slug cooling system upgrade I been hearing about.😂😂😂😂
That was gross 😝 😐 😳
When a bolt or nut is stuck so much that it has to be forced off every inch, try reversing and forwarding while adding oil
Simply turning it left usually does not work well because dirt builds up on the thread.
You guys are awesome! Hope what I said makes sense
Jon, that seems easier than flexible axle shafts !!!!
Not easy work at all. these guys are good at what they do
Классное, интересное получилось видео! Мне очень понравилось! Круто Круто!!!👍👍👍
The big heavy duty puller. They are always fun.
I had one of those in Central Canada for many many years. Heavy salt to deice roads rots the aluminum after 40 years for sure. Took boy scouts and girl guides up North to the boreal forest and lakes. The narrow roads bush scratch the sides of the charter busses causing tens of thousands in damage. They said no no no. Good times. Took it to Tijuana back in the day. 🇲🇽. Economical on fuel.
Pieni neuvo😊 kaada kuumaan mutteriin vettä niin kauan että jäähtyy, sitte lähtee irti👍
4104 one of my favorites 😍 ☮️
Scott do you own a magnetic-inductive heating tool? Its flameless and gets nuts and bolts cherry red hot in seconds to about a minute depending on the size of the bolt and wattage of the tool. I own a Chinese copy ($200) version and it works amazing. Especially when working around stubborn bolts near the fuel system were you want to avoid flame.
These Greyhound coaches could be difficult to work on.
A bucket of patience tips and tricks goes a long way. Ever have one reverse on ya'? 🎉
Great video as always. Is that hissing sound the cicadas in the background? If so, Good Lord!
It can’t be seized up if it’s a liquid. 🤣🔥
Do privately owned busses have to pass a periodic DOT safety inspection to be licensed like commercial trucks and busses do? If not do you believe they should?
Great video!
That thing fought you every step of the way! Looks there will be a lot of videos on this one.
Why don't you use a cordless ratchet? It would save you so much time taking off loose nuts and bolts and tightening them to torque. I see others use them and they save so much time.
I appreciate your time.
Mick Australia 🇦🇺
Cummins or cat. Old school
We do have two stroke. Bit rear. (
What would you suggest.
Love the channel.
80s 90s bus. 40s 30 years old.
Can you do a video on what you think. Please
Mick Australia 🇦🇺
How easy is it to find parts for these old Buses?
Tools and time it takes for a diy guy just learning how the bus things work?
The old buses are definitely gorgeous, but in the long run expensive for a diy guy who wants to go traveling.
Better to start off with a newer bus. Fix it up mechanically first, then build in an interior next.
Sleeping bags, air mattress, camp stove, 5-gallon water jugs, porta-potty.
That's probably the poor man's solution at first.
Old Buses are for collectors. They're awesome but expensive to repair.
Easy to find most parts. Everything is made to be repaired vs replaced. Much easier than a modern bus to maintain
G'day,
I enjoy watching the hands-on videos.
Q. What's the history of this bus. And any chance of a tour.
Thanks for sharing the video Peace ✌️ from Melbourne Australia.
I would have appreciated some explanation of what was going on and what the problems were.
If nothing else the bus will be about 500lb lighter after you’ve removed all the old grease and crud from the wheel assemblies.
blast all that off with a steam cleaner in the pit before starting work //go lot faster
Would it be possible to take a drum and hub to your machinest. Have him creat a jig to go over 2 studs with several inserts allowing you to drill out the heads of the drum retaining screws without damaging the drum or hub. But also have a smaller drill to guide you thru the threads in the hub to allow a tap to be run thru.
Have you ever tried Marvel Mystery Oil mixed with ATF for penetrating oil?
It's IMPOSSIBLE to be tight when it's a LIQUID........ 🤣
keep the clips coming
Is there a risk of asbestos from the old brakes?
Asbestos is in everything. It’s still used today and imported in massive amounts.
Just curious why these busses do not use disc brakes?
No offense, but you need to be concentrating the heat on the nut only. You want the heat to expand the diameter of the nut so that it loosens from the bolt.
No offense but he heated the nut round and round round only the center of the rosebud on the nut. It’s a castle nut and a huge one at that. Impossible not to let the stud get hot too. It came off as planned.
Would it have helped power washing the engine first to try and clean it up.
No it would not have helped.
Closed captions are missing?
You are making a rivet!
Of the old kingpin?
Is that a " bash" hammer from Wilton vise?
Yep
Just wondering have you ever had a snake on these buses yo do in the wild
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IS THAT THE BUS YOU Bought FOR YOUR DAUGHTER JUST AFTER HER WEDDING
I thought it was a schoolie
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The girl in Florida who bought the schoolie is not his daughter. A lot of people made that mistake. He bought his daughter a 4104, but before they had time to start work on it, he ran across a great deal on a super nice MC-7, and bought it for her.
no way that pos is worth fixing.
Terrific point. Harvard?
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It's definitely worth fixing or parting to fix other relics, they're antiques
They ain’t makin any more of em!
....and why exactly are you here?