No so vintage prevost has a lot of issues discovered on day 1 of the bus inspection.
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- Wow this modern prevost has a lot of issues uncovered on day 1. Lack of grease is a big problem. Allison transmission problems and prevost updated repair items will effect the budget.
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That’s the fastest I ever seen a bus climb that driveway lol
That's the difference in torque between a 2 stroke and 4 stroke diesel engine.
I've 97 H3-41 Detroit 60/Allison B500R... and 6 stage Jake. It'll descend that grade at a near crawl (Jake cut out RPM) without touching the brake valve when both Retarder and full Jake are activated.
I've owned/operated many D60 semis (and the competitors) for cross-continent service. Like them or not, by far the least expensive and most efficient powerplant for OTR.
In terms of the ride and comfort... you'd be hard pressed to find better than Prevost.
Yeah, that looked like one of those Dubai sand dune climbing videos😂. He was cookin’!
1:07 To paraphrase Crocodile Dundee: "THAT'S a dipstick!"
I wonder how many have had that dipstick wrap around the spinning belts. It’s all I could think of.
I saw the rag getting close and almost had heart failure.
@@66skate yeah he definitely ain't a retired motor mech
at 1:08
Listening to that turbo with the bus going up the hill....I thought I was listening to "Top Gun" the movie
That's my RVs sister bus. I have the H3-45 from that same le bus fleet.
I would love a variant of Ground Force one, a Prevost X45 coach. I hear it's got the same powerplant as the Abrams tank 😂. I would imagine that thing would go airborne once it got to the top of Scott's hill.
It is great ti hear the estimated costs of parts and labor during a project.
Always nice to see something from the 4 stroke world. Thanks for the video!
Darn, and I thought my Ford van had a long transmission dipstick !!!!
Front end looks like it was thrown together from existing parts supply, at that time
That's exactly what they did.
And the award for "World's Longest Dip Stick" goes to....this bus! 🤣
😂
When you get that trans leak figured out , make sure and check the oil warm with the keypad. way more accurate. If that lower pan is cracked, you can weld it. We had a bus that was on the hoist once and we accidentally let it down on a jack stand and cracked it. I welded it, but the first time we tried welding it it cracked again when it cooled. The second time we after we preheated and welded it we stuck it in our barbecue grill and slowly turned the heat down and then wrapped it in a bunch of blankets. Worked perfect. We had a 2000 h-345 with a series 60 go almost a million miles on the engine. Love the videos
Series 60 for the win! Great engines!
$5k in parts and $10k in labour. That escalated quickly...
lol
It may have problems, climbing the hill isn’t one of them 😳 Wow!
My axle shafts certainly did not have the line down them when I had them out for the inner axle seals
Forging line?
Those Tiger Tools are so great. Any shop that says they are too expensive, just doesn't understand the time and energy saved by their mechanics. You people sure do great work.
Ah I remember driving the Prevost H341, from an operator's perspective - almost car like. 45 foot long, but has a 42 foot turn radius. We had Detroit's as well, but ours were governed down to 425HP.
looking forward to seeing you folks getting into those trans issues.
Looked like a tornado going up the hill...
I love 2 stroke Detroits, but I think the Series 60 is the most reliable engine they ever made. Great design that incorporates a lot from the 2 stroke engines. I would recommend a gear case support kit to be added while you are in there, the block and the gear case tend to leak because of all of the weight of the 50DN hanging out there off it. Early Series 60s (pre 2002) have button adjusters on the rockers and they can come apart. If you are doing an overhead adjustment it’s recommended to replace them with the unitized adjusters. There are a total of 30 adjusters needed.
Kudos for doing it right. Looking forward to the next video.
...I think I see a bit more space to put a few more belts on that engine!!!
After watching, owning a bus is way too expensive way to travel. Give lots of room to the bus you are following. It too may need $15,000 of repairs and the owner has not a clue. Bus ownership can exceed the cost of owning a plane. No wonder why RV's stop traveling when the bank account runs out.
Correct, that is why i converted a 1980 schoolbus. All the maintenance i can do myself. No complex air ride, fancy electronics or mechanical luxury.
Hey Scott, great video fixing the bus! I was wondering if you have a washer and dryer in the shop. Your guys clothes sure get dirty! Thanks much for the video.
The questionable things you guys find that others did previously are never ending. Nice looking bus smoothly climbing bus grease monkey mountain.
I'll never understand the strange arrangement of the air bags on a unit like that. Some high some low ..very close together..
Just because the bus is newer you can not assume it is in bettef shape or does not have problems. This bus is still nearing 30 years old and probably has over half a million miles on it. Operators usually remove buses from their fleets when they are worn out and nearing costly repairs. They are not going to do a bunch of work just to sell the bus off and they do minimal repairs prior to fleet phase out.
You can not expect a $15,000 bus to be in perfect mechanical condition. When most people purchase a used passenger bus they are at the end of their life for commerical service.
Outstanding work thanks
Clunk in the drive train was 3 tubes of grease and one for the rig operator. Any diff Sparkils we shot 140w270 in it.
G'day,
The bus really made light work of your mountain.
Q. This bus seems to have a lot of corrosion on the bottom. Is this normal for this type of bus.
✌️ Peace from Melbourne Australia.
In the Eastern US, they salt the roads in the winter. It can kill a new car in 5 years. So glad they don't do that in the west where I am. We just learn to drive better and our vehicles don't rust.
Why do they make the air tank drains so inaccessible? Why not cable pulls like semi's have?
Hey, love the video's. Not a fan of Prevost buses lot of people i know changed out for production motorhomes as parts and the cost of repairs. It seams as if everytime they run the bus it would need service. Sort of like Jaguars or like my mom's old Daewoo car what a piece of junk that was. You could bend the frame by going over speed bumps at a crawl.
As much as I love buses, I just wouldn’t have the patience and skill to handle a major breakdown in a converted coach. I admire the folks who can do that but it’s not for everyone. I’ll take a hotel. If something breaks they have to hopefully 🤞 take care of it. Plus you won’t be stranded anyway.
@@crabbymilton390 Here the thing they keep changing parts on prevost bus every year they change parts or there custom and no replace parts available. Most of the time it used parts and how long is that going to last. One owner told me he says after 5 years of owning a Prevost bus the repair cost he could have bought two new amercain eagles coaches.
@@myk55501 Well I guess the old saying goes if doesn’t make sense then do it. In the world of motor homes, nothing is an end all beat all for everyone.
The buyers of these busses have status symbol in their eyes and don't understand how complex a bus is
These H3's are real beauties. And they cook as good as they look. Drove these for a bus company and I know that is a fact.
Always wondered what the part prices were bags, shocks, bearings, seals, etc. then the labor costs to remove and install. Thinking the knowledge of this would help buyers make better deals on these busses. Just hard cause I don’t want to be in someone’s personnel business. Great video as always.
Wow, was that Prevost submerged in salt water?! What a pile of rust & nasty paint on all the wheels! I hope the owner didn’t pay a premium price for that bus.
Rust never sleeps.....but most buy and never look underneath....I guess, 'out of sight out of mind'.....
That bus spent its life in the Salt Lake region. They salt the daylights out of their roads.
Seeing that flapping rag so close to the belt pulleys gave me ANXIETY...
Same here! Was waiting for the rag to get snagged and the fella lose a finger or two 😮😮😮😊
@carlbernard4197 - When I was a teenager (almost 50 years ago) I heard a man with only a thumb on his right hand explaining how he lost his fingers when an alternator belt on a running car caught his hand.
I thought my Chevy Express van had a long dip stick.
Aaahhh…the joy of bus ownership❤
Attack of the Grease Worm on the steering linkage ..........
OMG - It's CRAZY that you have to replace the WHOLE front steering rig for ONE Tie Rod End..... You'd think that SOMEBODY made one that was compatible!
The updated parts are a better design so the manufacturer doesn't want others to keep making the older, weaker design. 😊
Wow all new rebuilt front end 5 grand in parts 10 in labor yep sounds about right...Cant find a parts bus someplace grab steering parts off of?... you said it was 90s bus surely must be one sitting someplace. IDK new is always better peace of mind is priceless
Surprised to see a Prevost luxury motor coach without Alcoa wheels.
Was thinking the same thing, and previous owner/mechanic just rattle-canned the entire hub, I hate when they do that, just looks bad........
@@randallvos I'm a coach driver and when you see steel wheels on a Prevost, it means the prior owners wanted the Alcoa rims and got some old steel wheels out of storage. Very common on smaller fleets to see them do that.
@@ewelmo3921True but steel is still standard equipment and a lot less cost.
@@ewelmo3921I’ve done the same, and had it done with me! The studs looked the right length on this one for steelies, though.
@@ewelmo3921 That thought occurred to me. That’s what prompted the comment.
I have that same set in the regular length and really like them
Thanks for the video.
Dipstick in the dirt. Oweeeee
Reminds me of getting the Newbie of checking the oil on a 12 v 53 in a work over rig. We added 3 gallons Is it didn't leave the yard and gave it 5 gallons if we had to work it.
Jonathon doesn't even need to use Q tips in his right ear anymore
hello you may like this , to build your work bus pit in side the 2 cargo containers awning inside awning for work in summer months //add more work space in the shop .
Ooof....some peeps dream.of big houses and expensive cars. I just dream.of a big beautiful cruiser like this
The prevosts are renound for bad rusting and as we watched this and seen the weld repairs !
Well, nice looking 👀
...after seeing that bus fly up the hill, I'm not so starstruck by the old GM 2 strokes
There is recall/bulletin RE: rear structure
I always use Flex seal for my leaks.🤪
It is the beginning of tests!
That DDEC IV is very likely the finest diesel engine on the planet.....fight me Scott!! LOL
Hard to believe that DETROIT DIESEL is now proprietary. You can only get a DETROIT is if you buy MERCEDES BENZ TOURRIDER. I’m actually a long time CUMMINS stockholder so I hope against hope that PREVOST would offer CUMMINS as an option. This bus still looks pretty sharp.
@@crabbymilton390 I wouldn't hold my breath; they'll likely also continue playing the proprietary game but with Volvo engines.
how does he wash his jeans!! 😂
I bet they have a separate washing machine for grubbies. Local thrift stores for the grubby resupply.
Usually you buy a garage sale or market place machine for cheap for stuff like that!
There is always that one !
I guess the rust is from Florida salt water in the air?
Licence plate: California. You know they have a bit of ocean there as well, right?
Hi Scott how is your wife Kelly doing and how is your son also do you guys really dig your apartment and the pool out back is that all working out real good
keep the clips coming
Nice
One wrong handed stud =wheel anti theft method. Lol...
That's not a dipstick. That's a dipstring!
Ouch
So close to being sucked into that engine by that rag.
Good job
A prevost without shiney rims....isnt that some sort of sacrilege? 😁
Lug thread issue is "NUTS."
Why would someone do that?
The cost of owning a coach that hasn't seen needed maintenance 😮
Grease is my middle name…. A little bit here and there every now and then can save you a lot of money! 💰
What's a no so?
Good work they didnt do much good on the maintance seemse like
Diff drainings look troubling
For a 97, that looks as rusty underneath as a 50’s or 60’s bus!
Rusty
That A/C compressor?! 😮
What a stupid setup for the steering
Who thought it was a good idea to do those stepped tie rod ends 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
That's how they turn so sharp...
Thought you guy’s only did old buses?
It’s over 25 years old…. It’s not a new bus
@@BusGreaseMonkey just for curiosity? Is there a age range you guys fix and do you only do Detroits ?
@@vincenzostagliano5011 looking at the other videos, I've seen Cummins on here but no import stuff.
There were other buses done before which had the Series 60, including a Scenicruiser that was repowered with a Series 60.
Something tells me vintage bus owners are lucky they found these guys. Great content.
I can understand painting the wheel but, DO NOT paint the lug nuts!
prevost junk . you can't replace the drag link ball joint? WTF
Just because the bus is newer you can not assume it is in bettef shape or does not have problems. This bus is still nearing 30 years old and probably has over half a million miles on it. Operators usually remove buses from their fleets when they are worn out and nearing costly repairs. They are not going to do a bunch of work just to sell the bus off and they do minimal repairs prior to fleet phase out.
You can not expect a $15,000 bus to be in perfect mechanical condition. When most people purchase a used passenger bus they are at the end of their life for commerical service.