Like Parnelli Jones once said about the disadvantage of the boss 302's lack of low end power , "I'm not at a disadvantage, because I never run under 5000 rpm's".
@GHIGboss - I'm just thankful for being there in the mid 60s and into the 70s at Lime Rock Park. Little did I realize that I was watching in person races that will become historic for many reasons. Mark, Parnelli, George and the gang were some of the very best road racers one would ever see. 🏁🏁
@@Loulovesspeed I'm from Connecticut, been to several races at Lime Rock, but the thrill of a lifetime came in 1970 when my grandfather took us to a Trans Am race at Bryar Motorsports Park in Laconia, N.H. I remember rooting for Parnelli Jones in his Boss 302 Mustang.
This video is a time machine for me. Back when I was a teenager, I managed to get a blue and black 1970 boss 302. I put the trans am exhaust on it. That engine sound turns me into a kid again. It is just like my old car.
THE large 2 1/4 " intake valves and huge intake ports is what steels it's low ends away from the BOSS,but makes it a monster on the HIGH END!! That is most of road racing is 4000, to 7800rp's.
If its factory valve sizes, 1970 was a 2.19 intake, and 1969 was a 2.23 intake. My dad ran one in H1 mod production in NHRA drag racing. 9600 rpm thru the traps 9200 at a shift.
Fantastic. A Boss @ 8,000 rpm is a sound as perfect and unstrained as The Vienna Boy's Choir in concert! @ 9:04 - Love the way the Boss 302 ate the Stingray's lunch.
WOW! That was a real treat to watch! John does a masterful job of driving that Mustang around the track, that was epic watching him weave through multiple cars at a time. I'd love to know who built that engine !!! (I need one for my '70 Fastback!)
Thought I saw 8,200 a couple times ! Just making sure the rings are seated high and stretching the rod bolts. John was definitely up on that wheel in the second half !
First new car 1966 Corvette 327 365 HP solid lifters, next 1969 351 Mustang 290 HP and back in thhe day we thought they were fast.. Now that I am age 70+ old and feeble my new F150 5.0 has 375HP and I seldom hit 60 MPH.
It's too bad no one could really run the line they wanted to into the toe of the Boot with all of that oil dry out there. And, he really has to pedal that thing going up through the Esses. I've only driven 4 cyl cars at Watkins Glen, and you can just short-shift and mat it in 4th gear after you turn in at the bottom of the hill and just jam in a lower horsepower car, then shift into 5th at the corner worker's station in the right-hander that leads onto the back straight. Man, that's a lot of traffic to work through. Once he cleared the traffic you could really see he could finally run the line he wanted to. That is def a quick car, and great audio!
Coupydog The trans is probably a 4-speed Ford Toploader, the trans used in NASCAR and many other race cars since 1964. Good, strong synchros so you can jam them gears. www.hemmings.com/magazine/hmn/2007/02/Ford-Toploader-Four-speed-Transmission/1411504.html
@@jfsssp - That's a close-ratio Ford toploader, and it's the easiest-shifting 4-speed of its era. If you think this is fast shifting, check out the Super Stock NHRA A, B, C, and D classes. Those guys shift a four-speed quickly enough to make it sound like a really tight automatic or a Formula 1 electronic trans. Bang shifting is a REAL skill.
Was that 33 car (the only one that passed you) an old Richard Childres car? Wish I could have seen the outside of your car before you got on the track.
Wow what a video, it was fun watching it , just imagine driving that car. I would love to see that car and the motor 1970 boss 302 grappler yellow with a black stripes my favorite boss
Best ride along ever, a real t/a car with a stratospheric small block, its a shame this engine wasn't available in 68 as the ill fated tunnel port engine didn't have a chance, especially against the dz 302 from gm.
Could have stayed a little longer on the throttle before the apex. The Glen is my favorite track on the east coast however Summit Point is a close 2nd.
Nice I like it. I'm was getting moist. Man he was passing everyone. What a motley of cars but I don't recall seeing another Mustang. But oh well. I likey!
the high tech engine in the ford gt may be good in their eyes but as a ford guy, this engine would have been much better, sounds awsome and they kick ass.
@edward myinychuk - No one will argue that the V8 sounds better, but it is larger and weighs more which would necessitate a completely new (and larger) body/frame combo. Ford wanted to keep this car very light from the start and the TT 3.5 V6 already had several years of successful racing in a prototype class, so it was a proven power plant. Add to that the fact it was designed to run in a class that has its output regulated for competitive reasons, and there was no need for a V8. It pretty regularly kicked the C-7 and BMW M8s asses in the IMSA Weathertech GTLM Class.
thanks for the extra perspective and its good for what it was designed for but for the street and everyday use, i would still go with the v8 engines without the turbos that shorten the life of the engine.
@@edwardmylnychuk5774 Agreed, and that's why I would prefer the '05 and '06 GT for street use. People tend to lose sight of the fact that Ford built the current GT to race, first, but also to sell a limited number for street use. In racing, it proved clearly that the TTV6 was the right pick as it certainly proved itself capable of beating the V8 and V10 cars. In its 3 year run in IMSA racing, it scored 19 victories and a Class Championship. Actually, I think I would prefer a Superformance built Cobra Daytona Coupe, more comfortable and easier to drive safely and sounds great doing it!
He was pushing it, considering the other cars of wildly different speeds made it pretty hairy if you ask me. Open wheel combined with this made me nervous.
I owned a yellow and black 69 boss 302, my first new car cost me $ 4160.00, also help Sherwood racing out Phoenix Arizona build the firs fuel injection unit for boss's running in CAMAM racing!.
I also owned a new '69 BOSS 302, mine was "calypso coral" with the sports slats. It was off the showroom floor for $4300. Wasn't very impressive until I put a set of "Doug Thorley" tuned headers on it and removed the 6150 rev limiter, that's all it took to make it come ALIVE! But, I had a "need for speed" and traded it for a BOSS 351 a couple of years later. Big mistake! The bigger was not much faster, even with Doug's headers. The '69 was MUCH more fun to drive! GOOD times back then!!!!!
@@351clevelandmodifiedmotor4 - Well to be honest, by virtue of the fact that you don't know who Parnelli Jones is, you are not a real fan of road racing, like Trans-Am road racing. He raced a Boss 302 for Ford and Mark Donohue raced for Roger Penske and Chevrolet.
@@Loulovesspeed oh right, no I'm from down under, you ever heard of Scott McLaughlin? Lol Penske was part team owner of shell helix v power racing his falcons and mustangs dominated the australian V8 supercars series recently , it's a far bigger more popular race series than trans ams
What?? There are scant few Camaros today on the track that beat Mustangs. Corvettes are in a higher class than the Mustang and are not meant to compete with them.
Like Parnelli Jones once said about the disadvantage of the boss 302's lack of low end power , "I'm not at a disadvantage, because I never run under 5000 rpm's".
And that's how a Boss 302 is supposed to sound. Totally badass!
This is why the BOSS 302 dominated the SCCA Trans-AM racing series back in the day!! LOVE IT!
@GHIGboss - I'm just thankful for being there in the mid 60s and into the 70s at Lime Rock Park. Little did I realize that I was watching in person races that will become historic for many reasons. Mark, Parnelli, George and the gang were some of the very best road racers one would ever see. 🏁🏁
@@Loulovesspeed I'm from Connecticut, been to several races at Lime Rock, but the thrill of a lifetime came in 1970 when my grandfather took us to a Trans Am race at Bryar Motorsports Park in Laconia, N.H. I remember rooting for Parnelli Jones in his Boss 302 Mustang.
The dude is keeping up with a tube frame modern race cars that is on slicks!
I love it when the Vette gets weeded by the Boss.
The sound of that 302 as it goes by that junkvette @9:06 is fantastic, what a badass machine....🤘🏻🇺🇸
Great racing video.What a sound track that motor makes!! Could listen to it all day....Great to watch-thanks for posting this one.
This video is a time machine for me. Back when I was a teenager, I managed to get a blue and black 1970 boss 302. I put the trans am exhaust on it. That engine sound turns me into a kid again. It is just like my old car.
Please give us a video with details
THE large 2 1/4 " intake valves and huge intake ports is what steels it's low ends away from the BOSS,but makes it a monster on the HIGH END!! That is most of road racing is 4000, to 7800rp's.
If its factory valve sizes, 1970 was a 2.19 intake, and 1969 was a 2.23 intake. My dad ran one in H1 mod production in NHRA drag racing. 9600 rpm thru the traps 9200 at a shift.
2.19"
Nice driving and Boy is that engine Angry !
I recently was converted to Ford Boss 302,and I love it it's. My new favorite hotrod,This video is so impressive,car, driver,and the 302!
That engine winds out so sweet!
Make sure you crank up the volume. Sweet video. Thanks for posting
Pure symphonic bliss!
Breathtaking ride along, with sweet ear candy. Loved every minute, Thanks.
Fantastic. A Boss @ 8,000 rpm is a sound as perfect and unstrained as The Vienna Boy's Choir in concert! @ 9:04 - Love the way the Boss 302 ate the Stingray's lunch.
8000 rpms great sound, Thanks for uploading this
WOW! That was a real treat to watch! John does a masterful job of driving that Mustang around the track, that was epic watching him weave through multiple cars at a time. I'd love to know who built that engine !!! (I need one for my '70 Fastback!)
L8RAlligator - Most likely Holman-Moody.
That close ratio 4-Speed music
Man that was good, I could watch this all day. I wish there where more races like this and that they where aired
a little 302 can run and a clinic on how a Mustang gets around a track
Thought I saw 8,200 a couple times ! Just making sure the rings are seated high and stretching the rod bolts. John was definitely up on that wheel in the second half !
Damn 4 speed really keeps that V8 in its rev range.
Some things never get old ……..
First new car 1966 Corvette 327 365 HP solid lifters, next 1969 351 Mustang 290 HP and back in thhe day we thought they were fast.. Now that I am age 70+ old and feeble my new F150 5.0 has 375HP and I seldom hit 60 MPH.
Nice drive John.
This vid should come with tissues so you can clean up afterwards.
It's too bad no one could really run the line they wanted to into the toe of the Boot with all of that oil dry out there. And, he really has to pedal that thing going up through the Esses. I've only driven 4 cyl cars at Watkins Glen, and you can just short-shift and mat it in 4th gear after you turn in at the bottom of the hill and just jam in a lower horsepower car, then shift into 5th at the corner worker's station in the right-hander that leads onto the back straight. Man, that's a lot of traffic to work through. Once he cleared the traffic you could really see he could finally run the line he wanted to. That is def a quick car, and great audio!
How about a video on how it was built outside shots of a vehicle and its history
Man I know it's vintage racing but you got it rolling reeling in everybody
That pass at 11:30 was spectacular!
Awesome video can't wait to try that
What a wicked car!!!!
That's one healthy motor
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That was pretty hairy at times with those slower cars, and the drivers of those open wheel jobs have balls of steel to be out there at all.
The Z28 had some more cam and higher compression but didn’t breathe like those Cleveland heads. What a ride...
That and Garbage Motors only manufactures rolling trash cans....
Was that the top loader transmission
this is fucking beautiful, John Garuti you know how to deal with the 70 - Boss 302 absolutely fantastic thank you and drive hard
Torque tongue's help midrange torque in boss/Cleveland headed engines. Not turning a 302ci eng over 5000 means the best powers not being used
And that’s why ALL NASCAR engines today use a Cleveland style head!
How much gas did you have will you finally finish having your fun
Sounds awesome..
For this track what was the rear gear ratio
Definitely thanks
Get some of that!!
Geez, how does he shift so fast - up & downshifting? Incredible skills, brotha
"Seems" like he's running one of those no-clutch race transmissions which of course is not at all stock for a vintage Trans Am racer.
Coupydog
The trans is probably a 4-speed Ford Toploader, the trans used in NASCAR and many other race cars since 1964. Good, strong synchros so you can jam them gears. www.hemmings.com/magazine/hmn/2007/02/Ford-Toploader-Four-speed-Transmission/1411504.html
@@jfsssp - That's a close-ratio Ford toploader, and it's the easiest-shifting 4-speed of its era. If you think this is fast shifting, check out the Super Stock NHRA A, B, C, and D classes. Those guys shift a four-speed quickly enough to make it sound like a really tight automatic or a Formula 1 electronic trans. Bang shifting is a REAL skill.
its a Jerico no clutch up or down just from a start.
Made those cobras look like my granny was driving them.
@3:18 what was that
Was that 33 car (the only one that passed you) an old Richard Childres car? Wish I could have seen the outside of your car before you got on the track.
It looked like a mid to late Eighties GM product.
@@Johnnycdrums Monte Carlo?
Wow what a video, it was fun watching it , just imagine driving that car. I would love to see that car and the motor 1970 boss 302 grappler yellow with a black stripes my favorite boss
It's graBBer yellow, not grappler.
#TheBossIsBack
that motor sounds soooo cool!
Awesome. I've been around The Glen in my personal vehicle lol.
Listening to this sound track is better than heavy metal.
@ 10:35 when you caught up to that old stock car, I had a shit eat'n grin the size of my pool table! LOL some badass wheel work muh boy ! ! !
That looks like a fun workout
Best ride along ever, a real t/a car with a stratospheric small block, its a shame this engine wasn't available in 68 as the ill fated tunnel port engine didn't have a chance, especially against the dz 302 from gm.
Did I see 9000 rpm ??
I would love to ride with him just to hear that V8 sing
Ya me to
I listen to this when I go to bed some nights.
Could have stayed a little longer on the throttle before the apex. The Glen is my favorite track on the east coast however Summit Point is a close 2nd.
Absolute music
top speed?????
I see 8000rpm on that tach in places. that thing sounds incredible.
Sweet! American Power & Speed!
Yes that's it
I saw a go cart about 3:36
Nice I like it. I'm was getting moist. Man he was passing everyone. What a motley of cars but I don't recall seeing another Mustang. But oh well. I likey!
I was watching it on 42" LG from about 2 ft away. In the twisties, it got so intense that I was holding on to the TV stand for dear life!LOL
It's a typical Ford engine sound of the day....😊
11:15 the dog is barkin he wants out!
Awesome :)
THIS GUY CAN DRIVE , WHAT A RUSH
This is my happy place! 7 grand!
Omg. That is no normal boss 302. The shift from 2nd to 3rd.
Very sharp
The other racers are just in his way.
"Road obstacles" LOL
Yeah, great to be in race where there are only 3 cars in your class.
sweet beans chevy fans
Who needs Automatic Transmission..shifting by hand is same fast! :-D
That Jericho transmission is $4000+
the high tech engine in the ford gt may be good in their eyes but as a ford guy, this engine would have been much better, sounds awsome and
they kick ass.
@edward myinychuk - No one will argue that the V8 sounds better, but it is larger and weighs more which would necessitate a completely new (and larger) body/frame combo. Ford wanted to keep this car very light from the start and the TT 3.5 V6 already had several years of successful racing in a prototype class, so it was a proven power plant. Add to that the fact it was designed to run in a class that has its output regulated for competitive reasons, and there was no need for a V8. It pretty regularly kicked the C-7 and BMW M8s asses in the IMSA Weathertech GTLM Class.
thanks for the extra perspective and its good for what it was designed for but for the street and everyday use, i would still go with the
v8 engines without the turbos that shorten the life of the engine.
@@edwardmylnychuk5774 Agreed, and that's why I would prefer the '05 and '06 GT for street use. People tend to lose sight of the fact that Ford built the current GT to race, first, but also to sell a limited number for street use. In racing, it proved clearly that the TTV6 was the right pick as it certainly proved itself capable of beating the V8 and V10 cars. In its 3 year run in IMSA racing, it scored 19 victories and a Class Championship. Actually, I think I would prefer a Superformance built Cobra Daytona Coupe, more comfortable and easier to drive safely and sounds great doing it!
daytona coupe yepper thats the car i would take also, stylish, fast and practical.
@Sinuswave- This is how vintage cars get treated a lot of the time. Too expensive to really boot it.
John Ford
I don't agree that he was not pushing the car. 7800 rpm at times. He's driving smoothly. And smooth is fast.
He was pushing it, considering the other cars of wildly different speeds made it pretty hairy if you ask me. Open wheel combined with this made me nervous.
I owned a yellow and black 69 boss 302, my first new car cost me $ 4160.00, also help Sherwood racing out Phoenix Arizona build the firs fuel injection unit for boss's running in CAMAM racing!.
I also owned a new '69 BOSS 302, mine was "calypso coral" with the sports slats. It was off the showroom floor for $4300. Wasn't very impressive until I put a set of "Doug Thorley" tuned headers on it and removed the 6150 rev limiter, that's all it took to make it come ALIVE! But, I had a "need for speed" and traded it for a BOSS 351 a couple of years later. Big mistake! The bigger was not much faster, even with Doug's headers. The '69 was MUCH more fun to drive! GOOD times back then!!!!!
Hahaha passing all those other cars like people waiting at a bus stop
You are so right it sounds real real angry
Might as well remove the mirrors of that thing for aero improvement and weight savings...
This good old snake car left all behind. But, the blue Nascar wasn`t fair. Fantastic race!
I am coming move over
With shifts that fast, obviously he's running a crashbox.
Bon pilote de ligne droite
Go Johnny Go.
Steve McQueen alive and well.
All business. The Boss is pissed off.
He really needs to keep the engines revs up when he's coming into a turn, that's mental how he lets the revs come down
OK Parnelli, you tell him how to drive! Lol
@@Loulovesspeed let's the revs drop then needs 4 seconds to get them back up again, who the fucks parneli
@@351clevelandmodifiedmotor4 - Well to be honest, by virtue of the fact that you don't know who Parnelli Jones is, you are not a real fan of road racing, like Trans-Am road racing. He raced a Boss 302 for Ford and Mark Donohue raced for Roger Penske and Chevrolet.
@@Loulovesspeed oh right, no I'm from down under, you ever heard of Scott McLaughlin? Lol Penske was part team owner of shell helix v power racing his falcons and mustangs dominated the australian V8 supercars series recently , it's a far bigger more popular race series than trans ams
@@Loulovesspeed th-cam.com/video/V9OvdzR4PZc/w-d-xo.html, V8 supercars Australia
Absolutely love the sound of that engine, mmmmmm ear porn
PJ made up for that though he'll make a new road if they don't give him any
Don't come to a gunfight with a knife it's not going to work
Sunday drive... LOL..
Only a fool would hate this video. Best sounding V8 is a small block Ford. Fight me.
Play with me...c'mon....who wants to play....sweet Jesus ...now that...thats what Jesus made 302's for tell me I'm a liar
All that noise, but slower than a detuned E36 M3 with 220hp… interesting
i love mustangs and the sound of ford v8's but i hat e that camaros and vettes win the race. fords need up their game
What?? There are scant few Camaros today on the track that beat Mustangs. Corvettes are in a higher class than the Mustang and are not meant to compete with them.