This is the only one that went over basics and easy to understand- I know this is 7 months ago but it just came up in my feed- 4070 Ti went from stock .950 volts to .900 @ stock 2490 MHz with the flat curve to the right and wow what a difference. a good 80 watts less power and cooler too ( not that it was ever hot ) your GPU just seem to run better at the under volt in every way- great job !
This is super helpful, thank you Bryan! Many over/under clocking tutorials assume user is already familiar with software, and your down-to-earth approach makes it much easier to grasp the basics.
My first attempt of OC'ing my GPU. Great tutorial for any card! Worked absolutely as shown here for my RTX 4070. I went with the under voltage option as my FPS is working plenty good for all my games I"m currently playing. Remnant2, Elden Ring, God of War, Mass Effect
Hi Bryan, instead of using a under volt curve try lowering the power slider on MSI Afterburner instead as it works better on Nvidia 40 series. The under volt on 40 series works differently than 30 series as it has a negative side effect of lowering the GPU Video and GPU Effective clock (you can see these in Hardware info 64). By dropping the power slider to your desired wattage you keep all the GPU various internal clock rates synchronized and FPS will be better than an under volt.
i just did that, well i did a mix, +200 on core +800 on memory and limited the power to 87%(not a big saving), so my 4070 can still hit the 3000 core while using 170W-175W max and i'm very happy for the results, of course i could lower the power if i don't enhance the core clock but i prefer this option
@@micb3rd Thanks again for the information you provided.....4060 Ti 8gb - 4K Resolution Maxed Settings "Super Position Benchmark" 91 FPS Max - 62 FPS Min at 75% Power 45 Degrees Celsius Max Compared to : 94 FPS Max - 64 FPS Min at 135% Power 75 Degrees Celsius Max
Does that include 1% lows, frame times and overall stability? If so I may have to consider the 4070 for my next desktop PC. My intent is to build a desktop which has similar or better power and efficiency to my 3070 ti laptop without any of the noise. I want to prioritize power efficiency and price to performance for this build because I just want a smoother experience at my current settings and having the headroom should I try my hand at some newer games would also be a nice bonus.
@@_shadow_1 a 4070 desktop is miles better than a 3070ti mobile :) You can OC or UV, I would reccomend UV with same performance because OC could give around 10% FPS but at 210-220W while stock performance is achievable at around 150W. Low and stability is good, also depends on RAM and CPU ofc
Excellent tutorial, best I've seen yet. My 4070 FE wasn't stable at 910mV at 2700MHz, but the tutorial gave me enough understanding to adjust from there and it ended up stable at 925mV at 2700MHZ. Not as good as yours, but it brought it under 160W, so it's still a win in my book.
The msi 4070s boost to 2850mhz. Which is higher than advertised. These cards don't get very hot at all. So with a good case with good air flow it will boost to 2850 95% of the time i found
*Good stuff, I always UV with a slight OC* *For UV I always started off with the -200/300Mhz & never pulled up the lower end to meet/go further beyond the original clocks, so will do that in future.*
Great video Bry ✊🥰🤩! Great to see a much better detailed undervolt / overclock video than the variety of less explained videos on the market currently. I used to overclock back in the early 486 AMD cpu days through to the Intel 3770k era ….. after that, undervolting took my heart ♥and been doing that ever since getting into the itx builds just after the Intel 4790k days 🥰👍🥳. Undervolting is underestimated imo.
My Gigabyte Gaming OC RTX 4070 is a pretty wicked overclocker, I was able to go +235 core +1700 memory. GPUz reporting 2800mhz Boost, 1525mhz Memory. This was the highest I could pull in TimeSpy/Port Royal without crashing. The VRM is way overkill on this card. You can crank up the power limit to 148% (320w) which is crazy considering it's a 200w card. Even with my max OC the most I was able to get it to draw was 236w. I wish the voltage wasn't locked down... I run a light OC for my normal usage though, just +35 core +700 memory (2600mhz boost 1400mhz memory). I care more about temps and longevity than a few more FPS.
I prefer the frame chasers method: Up clocks by 15mhz Play game Up clock by 15mhz more Repeat till crash Lower clocks 15mhz Flatten curve at stock speed with lower voltage Takes a bit longer but you get stock performance or better with lower power.
I know many people don't like the rounded Zotac design for the 4070, but I love it!!! Having magnetic back covers is a very clever and clean way to change the look for the graphics card! Very nice!!!
I'm not sure Furmark is a particularly good choice of load, what with it being a special driver case for a number of generations now. I'd probably use a different program, like one of the recent 3D Marks, to ensure that the results are skewed by the driver artificially limiting load during testing.
@@techyescitywitcher 3 maxed with RT (optionally portal RTX) are my go to game for stability. It has translated to stable gaming across other titles. 3dmark and furmark simply doesn't do this. I've done this on a 4070, 4x 4080s, 2x 4090s
Yes, this aggressive undervolt loses almost 2 thousand points in 3DMark, sweetSpot is 0.950v losing only 500 points, it went from 195w to 121W, losing 11°C in the GPU, 6°c in the Memory and losing only 4FPS, with 0.910v makes 119W only 2W difference and loses almost 10 fps compared to 0.950v
Awesome man!! Big thanks! I already tried it by my own and was happy about the result but today i changed it to your settings and i was shocked 😂 Before 180watt at 75fps now 130 watt and still hitting the 70fps in starfield @4k!!! Appreciate it!
Hi Bryan, thanks for thsese oc/uv vidoes. Can we get a comprehensive RAM tuning guide for ddr4 please ? Most of newer games push hard on cpu/ram , so it will be very helpful for ppl still using ddr4 to see some performance gains XD
This mirrors my experience with the 4070. I think I wound up running 2600@900mV just to shave off a bit more power and keep the top freq a bit more stable. Mine is topping off at 150 watts and averaging 130 watts (when using an un-capped framerate). Super useful tutorial, I need to edit mine to bump of the base uV freq as I do have occasional instability when idling.
The 4070 is not stable at 0.9v and the GPU ends up releasing more power than at 0.925 to maintain stability. The sweetspot is 0.95v, and please do not change the curve before 0.950, it will cause instabilities
i do that different. testet a lot rtx 4000 cards. i apply -220on the core, the curve, let it there, tham drag by 975mv up to 2900mhz, that is working an all tested cards and yes 1400 on the memory is also working on all tested rtx 4070 cards. the boost is huge and the power draw is super low 🙂👍🏻 love that stuff
Please do not apply -200 to the core, in addition to causing instability you are wasting energy, if before 1400mhz it was running at 0.700, now 0.700 is running at 1200mhz, it is a waste of power
I have a 4070 asus dual OC white, it was already quiet and cool stock, got it solid with +1600mhz on the memory, undervolt +OC not sure how to explain how I did it, 1st I added +240 on the core, and on the curve editor I flatenned everything from 1000mv to the right. This is what I found it to be stable at or lets say the sweet spot. No crashes after several stress tests, core frequency goes up around 2885, with peaks over 2900. Using same power, same temps and noise(same fan RPM, even maybe slightly lower) as stock.
Cheers for this Brian i learnt a few things from it. I went into the video thinking "meh I'm not your average neck beard i bet i know everything he is going to say". I was wrong.
Bro the way you made a video of you moving the mouse in slo-mo for input lag for the Phillips monitor is impressive! Haven’t thought of that, very nice way of “layman-ing” it! If this was a common way of testing the thing, I didn’t know…. Nice one, all the same!
My asus dual non oc I couldn't get it below 1.040mv but the power draw is still impressive. Drawing average of only 160w (3k-4k 60 fps locked) , and when I enable Dlss it even goes below 130w 🙀. My 550w psu couldn't be happier 🤗.
I hate this thing where people use some program to test the oc settings but then they say in games it crashes, for example, I've found outer wilds to really force the crap out of my rtx 3060 so why are people not using games to test this lol, you can put games in windowed mode too... So is there any reason to not use a game in the first place and use furmark or such instead?
exactly, the best way to Overclock or undervolt is to play the games you are usually playing, so it differs from people to people and games to games, but benchmarks are the tool to use to see where things are going qickly, meaning how effictive is your OC or UV, fps change, temps change, power draw and etc
Bought my 4070 Gigabyte as a open box from best buy for $459 as a back card for my 4090. Sweet spot for the 40 series power target of %50 -85%. Strange to play 4k 80 fps @ only 90-120 watts with the 4070.
This is so useful when running this card on flex psu with only 1x 6+2pin connector that is rated for 75w + pcie slot rated 75w for total of 150w. This is such a game changer as i can now run undervolted 4070 in my ITX safely.
Thanks for this data, Bryan! Really nice video! I've also looked at the under volting and OC of my 4070 but i have a single 8 pin dual slot card and it's a bit more limited than these 2 8pin configs.
Thanks! Just built a ASUS 4070 DUAL SUPER and I was trying to decide if over c or Under V was the best option. I have incredible airflow and cooling with my Fractal case, Especially with Nactua giant dual fin with fan cooler for CPU. I think it runs well enough that Under volt is a great idea, coming into summer.... BUT will save a little OC setting as well, for the winter time gaming😄
I hear that the RTX series are all good for underclocking. What about GTX 1650super, GTX 1660super are these not worth it because of no headroom or is there potential with lower end cards?
I always use the Bright Memory Infinite RT Benchmark to test my settings, cause with Raytracing the card has veeery different clockspeeds (4070 Super). I didnt undervolt too much (985mV 2805MHz) but the power consumption still went down from 220->180W. If i go lower I'm getting "Rendering Device Lost" problems in Overwatch with every 3rd driver iteration.
Great tutorial here! Just curious what you'd recommend for MSFS2020? Flightsim has always been more CPU dependent (limited), so I'm curious if this would even help in it...
Hello, I should have listened to you earlier a year later, the card began to warm up, the thermal interface became worse, the hotspot is hotter by 10 degrees at the peak of loading compared to the Bulk state, in the future I will lower the voltage of new cards.
You should never give up performance unless you are overheating. You can actually undervolt and still overclock you just can’t undervolt as much. Much better solution where you save some power and get a little more performance
Honestly at the numbers shown here, you should always undervolt. You save so much electricity, for a difference you won't be able to see at all. Also running on less power, means less heat and thus increased lifetime of your card. Fps past a certain point are just there to increase your virtual sexual organs, kinda like massive cars. Not going to argue about it, if the difference between undervolt and stock/overclock starts to be in 20 fps territority at under 100fps.
I mean... half of the good coming out of the 4070 compared to the 3080 is that it uses less power so when you get the same fps with 100 watts less power and then come and lower the power even more you are just starving your GPU in my opinion @@peterfischer2039
People should keep in mind that the best way to Overclock or undervolt is to play the games you are usually playing or run the professional softwares you are usually running, so benchmarks are only a simple tool to use to see if things are going in the direction you want them to and by how much, meaning how effictive is your OC or UV, fps change, temps change, power draw and etc. You can spend hours testing different numbers and benching on furmark or heaven or 3dmark and etc and then you enter your favorite game and it crashes on the 5th minute. My way of Undervolting is to keep the same(ish) core clocks and undervolt as much as possible while pushing the memory as much as possible. The results are slightly better fps like 2-5% depending on GPU model and silicon lottery and 10-30% less power draw and temps again depending on silicon lottery and GPU model. P.S. Great Tutorial and decent content as always.
Hi Bryan! Great video, as always! I have a question. Is this not too stressful to the memory? Do you have any remarks about memory longevity when applying these overclocks? Thank you!
I just leave mine at stock, no idea what the power consumption is for my PNY xlr8 4070, but I do know the average boost clock speed is right at 2790 and it rarely ever varies. temps on my GPU? of course YMMV depending on your setup. I have an old Antec 1100 OG case, and have a nhd15 CPU cooler, so my airflow is weird. My wife would absolutely slay me for spending anymore money on my pc, so m temps of low 70s while gaming are good enough. I suppose I could try to UV, but honestly I just don't have the time(and now that I'm a bit older) and no desire to eek out that extra bit of perf or lower power usage. When I do have free time, I just want to play some games on my pc and only spend time tinkering when a problem does come up(which is rare). Anyway, he has a good guide, almost tempts me to go home and try it, but then I remember that I might have an hour each night and i just think 'nah'
Mine only starts to run stable at 2700Mhz if the voltage is at 0.925V. It still reduces the power by 40-50W and of course runs way cooler and actually faster than stock. Ingame the 40 Series is just so efficent. My old 1060 ran always at like 110-115W at low settings. The 4070 runs almost max settings with DLSS at like 70-80W. Of course it depends on the game. Once Human on everything max brings the card to like 170W with undervolt!
I did this with my 4070 super today at 975v , I did try 925v but it was being very glitchy and artifacts where all weird. 975v at 2760 and memory at 1000.
yeah my 4070 Asus TUF Gaming OC hits around 60% usage in 1080p 4x msaa in furmark, same UV settings as shown in the video and it crashes. Tried bringing memory clocks down from +1400 to +1200 but seems like the core clock spike at 910mv is too much xD
Hello. Can you please do some undervolting for AMD Radeon gpus. Just want to watch your method of undervolting. Preferably the Rx 7600. *I forgot your name
Nice video! - With OC you would also like to increase to power limit to get even more FPS - With UV I would mix it with OC so in the end you would end up with exactly the same performance as stock but will less power usage.
Excellent video! I personally like to undervolt so that I don't lose any performance. I've done this with my 2070 super and between undervolting the gpu and overclocking memory I get the exact same performace as default settings where I consume much more power.
No need to set it manually on that meter when you already set it on the graph. "Curve" means the curve that you have set in the curve editor. If you raise it to 3GHz and the stock is like 2.6GHz, that means you're already applying +400MHz but you're the one who's specified the curve.
Would be cool to see it against the other GPUs you tested but yeah I'm at 350w with my 6900xt but I'd like 200w for 200fps for apex but might not be possible 😢
it is. my 6900xt (last few days with it btw), is using 190w board power (140w core) and it i still outperforming a 6800xt. i'm only doing this because it coil whines, though.
with MPT, you can do a lot of stuff At around 220-240W, you can get over stock performance so I think even lower than that should be possible with still nearly stock performance
One of the profiles must be same stock clock and undervolt, so you have the same performance and much lower temps and watts. But overall nice explanation.
Zotac makes great graphics cards for anyone curious. I've got a GTX1070 Mini Zotac I purchased in 2016 and only last year had to replace the fan motor but I just used another fan from a old graphics card to jerry rig it. Still runs perfect and for over 7 years now!
what am i missing? i have the same values on the graph on the undervolting and when i hit the checkmark, absolutely nothing happens. idk what to do, i also notice a lot of settings dont really seem to save.
First set the settings, and left click the check mark. unlock the profiles by clicking the lock symbol, then right click on the number to save. If a profile is already saved then it will clear on right click. Click again to save.
When undervolting, I keep getting LIM POW, LIM VOLT and the occasional TEMP LIM. BAck when I was still using my laptop(RTX2080) I just lock it in a frequency and below the voltage to remove it. Now I dont know if it still is advicable with the rtx 4070 ti...
I have a Zotac 4070 Twin Edge. When trying to make undervolt below 910mv (flat curve in the MSI Afterburner curve window), the voltage does not go below 910mv. When locking voltage and clock ("L" hotkey in the curve window) below 910 mv, the clock of gpu and memory drops to 405 MHz, at that time GPU-Z and HW-Info display the idle (utilization) state of perfcap, even if some game or furmark is running (of course, performance degrades). How to solve this problem, reduce voltage below 910mv without clock drop?
thank you! i have the spiderman edition 4060 version and i tried unvervolting aswell, and i couldnt go below 1v at 2900mhz can you please make another video for the 4060 undervolt? because it gets real hot (75c with an agressive fan curve)
standartboost on 4070 is arround 2.5ghz, shouldn't an undervolt to 910 and ramping up to 2700 + 1200 mem not be better then stock ? why is everyone talking about lowering the voltage and also loosing 5% ?
I followed the same method, but without any changes you're getting ~190 frames, while my Windforce OC is getting ~160. Not sure why there's a massive difference with the stock performance.
I'm new to using a gpu and don't know much about these, I'm buying a n rx 6600 , should I change some driver settings when I install the drivers or something?
My psu is 600watt and i have a 4070 with a i910900k I feel like my psu is low for my pc components so should I undervolt my gpu to save it from damage ?
I have a very aggressive undervolt on my Asus Tuf 4090, which I've applied on day one and not looked back since. I have no doubt I could get better performance but didn't want to mess things up so I haven't touched it. 2400Mhz @ 825mV (vram is overclocked +1000Mhz)
I will have to watch more of your video on try again latter. But doing what you were doing with my msi 4070 OC 3 fan model would just instantly crash with that curve you did at 6:32. Tried it with a couple lower clocks but still instant crash. Before I did what you did, I tested to see how far I could get mine to keep on working and it crashed at 1800. In the curve, I tried it at 1230,1000,800, 650. So just for the fun of it. I just messed around with bitch core clock and mem clock until I got the highest stable fps. Gained about 30fps. Once I booted up cyberpunk 2077, though I had to lower both a bit but still managed to keep my extra fps. My set up though is through an egpu with a Lenovo legion go.
I didn't touch the memory clock or the first dot to raise the bar. I just took the last dot dropped to 2300 and raised 950mv dot to 2700mhz and got better test bench scores. 54 degrees c max, max fps 144 that matches my monitor, min 30 fps. High quality settings used.
This is the control method, my personal favourite, hopefully you guys enjoy this one!
gross, water cool don't be a bum!
@@Tripnode01 get a life
The stickers make the GPU run a lot better !
What could be nice , in addition to undervolt video, is to make 60fps 1080/1440p wattage chart
Saw I need Baldur's Gate 3, fortunately I have that ;)
This is the only one that went over basics and easy to understand- I know this is 7 months ago but it just came up in my feed-
4070 Ti went from stock .950 volts to .900 @ stock 2490 MHz with the flat curve to the right and wow what a difference. a good 80 watts less power and cooler too ( not that it was ever hot )
your GPU just seem to run better at the under volt in every way-
great job !
This is super helpful, thank you Bryan! Many over/under clocking tutorials assume user is already familiar with software, and your down-to-earth approach makes it much easier to grasp the basics.
Agreed as I am 100% new to this! VERY helpful!
My first attempt of OC'ing my GPU. Great tutorial for any card! Worked absolutely as shown here for my RTX 4070. I went with the under voltage option as my FPS is working plenty good for all my games I"m currently playing. Remnant2, Elden Ring, God of War, Mass Effect
Lowering the voltage and pumping the VRAM is the best option for most cards IMO.
Hi Bryan, instead of using a under volt curve try lowering the power slider on MSI Afterburner instead as it works better on Nvidia 40 series. The under volt on 40 series works differently than 30 series as it has a negative side effect of lowering the GPU Video and GPU Effective clock (you can see these in Hardware info 64). By dropping the power slider to your desired wattage you keep all the GPU various internal clock rates synchronized and FPS will be better than an under volt.
i just did that, well i did a mix, +200 on core +800 on memory and limited the power to 87%(not a big saving), so my 4070 can still hit the 3000 core while using 170W-175W max and i'm very happy for the results, of course i could lower the power if i don't enhance the core clock but i prefer this option
Thanks for the tip!!
Is that the “Power Limit%” slider?
@@EJ20goesKaboom Yes it is the Power Limit (%) slider in MSI Afterburner.
@@micb3rd Thanks again for the information you provided.....4060 Ti 8gb - 4K Resolution Maxed Settings "Super Position Benchmark"
91 FPS Max - 62 FPS Min at 75% Power 45 Degrees Celsius Max
Compared to :
94 FPS Max - 64 FPS Min at 135% Power 75 Degrees Celsius Max
Managed to reduce consumption by 20-25% and the temps by 5-10 °C with no performance loss, definitely worth it (MSI Ventus 2X OC). Great video!
Great result! What's the build quality and noise level of the card (before and after UV)? Looking to buy that model myself.
Does that include 1% lows, frame times and overall stability? If so I may have to consider the 4070 for my next desktop PC. My intent is to build a desktop which has similar or better power and efficiency to my 3070 ti laptop without any of the noise. I want to prioritize power efficiency and price to performance for this build because I just want a smoother experience at my current settings and having the headroom should I try my hand at some newer games would also be a nice bonus.
@@_shadow_1 a 4070 desktop is miles better than a 3070ti mobile :)
You can OC or UV, I would reccomend UV with same performance because OC could give around 10% FPS but at 210-220W while stock performance is achievable at around 150W. Low and stability is good, also depends on RAM and CPU ofc
Have the same model hopefully I have the same results
@@xzSolarisIs this Ventus 2x a good model?
Excellent tutorial, best I've seen yet. My 4070 FE wasn't stable at 910mV at 2700MHz, but the tutorial gave me enough understanding to adjust from there and it ended up stable at 925mV at 2700MHZ. Not as good as yours, but it brought it under 160W, so it's still a win in my book.
The msi 4070s boost to 2850mhz. Which is higher than advertised. These cards don't get very hot at all. So with a good case with good air flow it will boost to 2850 95% of the time i found
And with an undervolt just with the standard boost clock speeds you'll see good results also
Thank for sheering - that will help me
*Good stuff, I always UV with a slight OC*
*For UV I always started off with the -200/300Mhz & never pulled up the lower end to meet/go further beyond the original clocks, so will do that in future.*
Tech YES Undervolt FTW!
I was about to panic when I didn't saw you.
well technically ftw is dead, rip evga
@@KrashFries😔💔
Great video Bry ✊🥰🤩! Great to see a much better detailed undervolt / overclock video than the variety of less explained videos on the market currently. I used to overclock back in the early 486 AMD cpu days through to the Intel 3770k era ….. after that, undervolting took my heart ♥and been doing that ever since getting into the itx builds just after the Intel 4790k days 🥰👍🥳. Undervolting is underestimated imo.
Thanks so much for this video, I successfully overlocked my zotac twin edge, +1500Mhz in memory and 3080Mhz peak clock, original was 2790Mhz.
My Gigabyte Gaming OC RTX 4070 is a pretty wicked overclocker, I was able to go +235 core +1700 memory. GPUz reporting 2800mhz Boost, 1525mhz Memory. This was the highest I could pull in TimeSpy/Port Royal without crashing. The VRM is way overkill on this card. You can crank up the power limit to 148% (320w) which is crazy considering it's a 200w card. Even with my max OC the most I was able to get it to draw was 236w. I wish the voltage wasn't locked down... I run a light OC for my normal usage though, just +35 core +700 memory (2600mhz boost 1400mhz memory). I care more about temps and longevity than a few more FPS.
I prefer the frame chasers method:
Up clocks by 15mhz
Play game
Up clock by 15mhz more
Repeat till crash
Lower clocks 15mhz
Flatten curve at stock speed with lower voltage
Takes a bit longer but you get stock performance or better with lower power.
Furmark and other softerware is not really like play in game. i get my 4070 gaming oc over 3000mhz but in realworld, 0.975v@2775Mhz it is
I know many people don't like the rounded Zotac design for the 4070, but I love it!!! Having magnetic back covers is a very clever and clean way to change the look for the graphics card! Very nice!!!
I'm not sure Furmark is a particularly good choice of load, what with it being a special driver case for a number of generations now. I'd probably use a different program, like one of the recent 3D Marks, to ensure that the results are skewed by the driver artificially limiting load during testing.
I have found as long as you don't go too heavy on the MSAA (x8) for example or too little, it can actually be quite solid.
@@techyescitywitcher 3 maxed with RT (optionally portal RTX) are my go to game for stability. It has translated to stable gaming across other titles. 3dmark and furmark simply doesn't do this. I've done this on a 4070, 4x 4080s, 2x 4090s
Yes, this aggressive undervolt loses almost 2 thousand points in 3DMark, sweetSpot is 0.950v losing only 500 points, it went from 195w to 121W, losing 11°C in the GPU, 6°c in the Memory and losing only 4FPS, with 0.910v makes 119W only 2W difference and loses almost 10 fps compared to 0.950v
Awesome man!! Big thanks! I already tried it by my own and was happy about the result but today i changed it to your settings and i was shocked 😂
Before 180watt at 75fps now 130 watt and still hitting the 70fps in starfield @4k!!!
Appreciate it!
Hi Bryan, thanks for thsese oc/uv vidoes. Can we get a comprehensive RAM tuning guide for ddr4 please ? Most of newer games push hard on cpu/ram , so it will be very helpful for ppl still using ddr4 to see some performance gains XD
This mirrors my experience with the 4070. I think I wound up running 2600@900mV just to shave off a bit more power and keep the top freq a bit more stable. Mine is topping off at 150 watts and averaging 130 watts (when using an un-capped framerate). Super useful tutorial, I need to edit mine to bump of the base uV freq as I do have occasional instability when idling.
The 4070 is not stable at 0.9v and the GPU ends up releasing more power than at 0.925 to maintain stability. The sweetspot is 0.95v, and please do not change the curve before 0.950, it will cause instabilities
@@victorallahu That probably depends on silicon lottery
i do that different. testet a lot rtx 4000 cards. i apply -220on the core, the curve, let it there, tham drag by 975mv up to 2900mhz, that is working an all tested cards and yes 1400 on the memory is also working on all tested rtx 4070 cards. the boost is huge and the power draw is super low 🙂👍🏻 love that stuff
Please do not apply -200 to the core, in addition to causing instability you are wasting energy, if before 1400mhz it was running at 0.700, now 0.700 is running at 1200mhz, it is a waste of power
Definitely Undervolt for me! I missed these Tech Yes guides :)
I have a 4070 asus dual OC white, it was already quiet and cool stock, got it solid with +1600mhz on the memory, undervolt +OC not sure how to explain how I did it, 1st I added +240 on the core, and on the curve editor I flatenned everything from 1000mv to the right. This is what I found it to be stable at or lets say the sweet spot. No crashes after several stress tests, core frequency goes up around 2885, with peaks over 2900. Using same power, same temps and noise(same fan RPM, even maybe slightly lower) as stock.
Yeah, i found my 4070 very stable at 1 V, too. Mine wasn't stable under or over that.
How ? My dual non oc couldn't go below 1040mv 😭
@@clem9808 Two possibilities, either you're setting the 1000 mV limit at too high a frequency or you happened to get a poor quality silicon chip. :(
I run my 4090 undervolted with just 90% powertarget no problems at all. And saves a lot of energy. The8auer did a good video on it.
I would very much appreciate a guide for the 4080 as well
Cheers for this Brian i learnt a few things from it. I went into the video thinking "meh I'm not your average neck beard i bet i know everything he is going to say". I was wrong.
Bro the way you made a video of you moving the mouse in slo-mo for input lag for the Phillips monitor is impressive! Haven’t thought of that, very nice way of “layman-ing” it! If this was a common way of testing the thing, I didn’t know…. Nice one, all the same!
ur default curve starts at around 1700@700mv, mine is 1500@700mv, MSI Ventus 3x 4070 here. can this be card specific? that big of a difference?
My asus dual non oc I couldn't get it below 1.040mv but the power draw is still impressive. Drawing average of only 160w (3k-4k 60 fps locked) , and when I enable Dlss it even goes below 130w 🙀. My 550w psu couldn't be happier 🤗.
4070 in 550 watt rig 💀
extremly good oc and undervolt explaining thx man !
Great guide, my Asus DUAL needs .925 for 2700 to be stable, it's artifacting at .910
Loving the content as always, and cheers for picking my comment! It made my day! 😎
Mine crashes when I set 910 to 2700.
Guess I won the silicon lottery backwards
My 4070 founders edition needs 950mV for 2745 but memory above 1100 is unstable in cyberpunk
Could you maybe do a Raptorlake, 13600k undervolt guide? I heard those undervolt pretty well
I've been over clocking and undervolting for years with msi AB but this way will save me hours, just fantastic ty :)
Best guide I have tested so far. Thanks mate.
I hate this thing where people use some program to test the oc settings but then they say in games it crashes, for example, I've found outer wilds to really force the crap out of my rtx 3060 so why are people not using games to test this lol, you can put games in windowed mode too... So is there any reason to not use a game in the first place and use furmark or such instead?
I guess they are lazy, games can take hours to crash sometimes
exactly, the best way to Overclock or undervolt is to play the games you are usually playing, so it differs from people to people and games to games, but benchmarks are the tool to use to see where things are going qickly, meaning how effictive is your OC or UV, fps change, temps change, power draw and etc
5:30 how do you know there is no memory correction in that oc? You should test and explain that to people, they may lose perf without knowing.
Bought my 4070 Gigabyte as a open box from best buy for $459 as a back card for my 4090. Sweet spot for the 40 series power target of %50 -85%. Strange to play 4k 80 fps @ only 90-120 watts with the 4070.
This is another variant of undervolting steps than the 2 I saw on reddit. Will give it a try.
Great guide, especially the comparison in games. Thanks
This is so useful when running this card on flex psu with only 1x 6+2pin connector that is rated for 75w + pcie slot rated 75w for total of 150w.
This is such a game changer as i can now run undervolted 4070 in my ITX safely.
Using the preset at 8:00, my power consumption is still over 200w according to furmark. Also furmark crashed almost instantly.
my furmark fully stops working and freezes completely as soon as i press check at that point, im not sure what i need to change
@@dcgamester.Check your GPU temperature, if it goes over 90°C to about 92-95°C it will freeze. Always keep it under 90°C.
Thanks for this data, Bryan! Really nice video! I've also looked at the under volting and OC of my 4070 but i have a single 8 pin dual slot card and it's a bit more limited than these 2 8pin configs.
Thanks! Just built a ASUS 4070 DUAL SUPER and I was trying to decide if over c or Under V was the best option. I have incredible airflow and cooling with my Fractal case, Especially with Nactua giant dual fin with fan cooler for CPU. I think it runs well enough that Under volt is a great idea, coming into summer.... BUT will save a little OC setting as well, for the winter time gaming😄
I have the same model, do you have coil whine?
I hear that the RTX series are all good for underclocking. What about GTX 1650super, GTX 1660super are these not worth it because of no headroom or is there potential with lower end cards?
try ion 3d printing (in a vacuum tube) diy chips at home, similar to electron scanning/transmission microscopy, or crt.
With energy prices as they are right now, power consumption on cards becomes a pretty important metric for deciding which card to buy.
I always use the Bright Memory Infinite RT Benchmark to test my settings, cause with Raytracing the card has veeery different clockspeeds (4070 Super).
I didnt undervolt too much (985mV 2805MHz) but the power consumption still went down from 220->180W. If i go lower I'm getting "Rendering Device Lost" problems in Overwatch with every 3rd driver iteration.
Awesome video. Hope you do one with the 4070 Ti!
So why didn't you add core clock in the overclock profile and undervolt profile? i don't know much about overclocking or undervolting. Thanks
Great tutorial here! Just curious what you'd recommend for MSFS2020? Flightsim has always been more CPU dependent (limited), so I'm curious if this would even help in it...
Hello, I should have listened to you earlier a year later, the card began to warm up, the thermal interface became worse, the hotspot is hotter by 10 degrees at the peak of loading compared to the Bulk state, in the future I will lower the voltage of new cards.
You should never give up performance unless you are overheating. You can actually undervolt and still overclock you just can’t undervolt as much. Much better solution where you save some power and get a little more performance
Honestly at the numbers shown here, you should always undervolt.
You save so much electricity, for a difference you won't be able to see at all.
Also running on less power, means less heat and thus increased lifetime of your card.
Fps past a certain point are just there to increase your virtual sexual organs, kinda like massive cars.
Not going to argue about it, if the difference between undervolt and stock/overclock starts to be in 20 fps territority at under 100fps.
My monitor is 165 refresh rate. Doing his settings gave me zero performance loss. Still at 165 fps
I mean... half of the good coming out of the 4070 compared to the 3080 is that it uses less power so when you get the same fps with 100 watts less power and then come and lower the power even more you are just starving your GPU in my opinion @@peterfischer2039
People should keep in mind that the best way to Overclock or undervolt is to play the games you are usually playing or run the professional softwares you are usually running, so benchmarks are only a simple tool to use to see if things are going in the direction you want them to and by how much, meaning how effictive is your OC or UV, fps change, temps change, power draw and etc. You can spend hours testing different numbers and benching on furmark or heaven or 3dmark and etc and then you enter your favorite game and it crashes on the 5th minute.
My way of Undervolting is to keep the same(ish) core clocks and undervolt as much as possible while pushing the memory as much as possible. The results are slightly better fps like 2-5% depending on GPU model and silicon lottery and 10-30% less power draw and temps again depending on silicon lottery and GPU model.
P.S. Great Tutorial and decent content as always.
Hello from Sydney :) love your work!
Hi Bryan! Great video, as always! I have a question. Is this not too stressful to the memory? Do you have any remarks about memory longevity when applying these overclocks? Thank you!
I just leave mine at stock, no idea what the power consumption is for my PNY xlr8 4070, but I do know the average boost clock speed is right at 2790 and it rarely ever varies. temps on my GPU? of course YMMV depending on your setup. I have an old Antec 1100 OG case, and have a nhd15 CPU cooler, so my airflow is weird. My wife would absolutely slay me for spending anymore money on my pc, so m temps of low 70s while gaming are good enough.
I suppose I could try to UV, but honestly I just don't have the time(and now that I'm a bit older) and no desire to eek out that extra bit of perf or lower power usage. When I do have free time, I just want to play some games on my pc and only spend time tinkering when a problem does come up(which is rare).
Anyway, he has a good guide, almost tempts me to go home and try it, but then I remember that I might have an hour each night and i just think 'nah'
I just bought a Zotac 4070 Twin Edge OC and waiting for it arrive and I just hope that mine is gonna do this too. This helps alot.
Did you tried any setting? What was the sweet spot?
Mine only starts to run stable at 2700Mhz if the voltage is at 0.925V. It still reduces the power by 40-50W and of course runs way cooler and actually faster than stock. Ingame the 40 Series is just so efficent. My old 1060 ran always at like 110-115W at low settings. The 4070 runs almost max settings with DLSS at like 70-80W. Of course it depends on the game. Once Human on everything max brings the card to like 170W with undervolt!
I did this with my 4070 super today at 975v , I did try 925v but it was being very glitchy and artifacts where all weird. 975v at 2760 and memory at 1000.
yeah my 4070 Asus TUF Gaming OC hits around 60% usage in 1080p 4x msaa in furmark, same UV settings as shown in the video and it crashes. Tried bringing memory clocks down from +1400 to +1200 but seems like the core clock spike at 910mv is too much xD
I dont get it. Running furmark stress test and there is a big decrease in Power. When running furmark benchmark the Power consumption are identical 🤨
Hello. Can you please do some undervolting for AMD Radeon gpus. Just want to watch your method of undervolting. Preferably the Rx 7600. *I forgot your name
Can you do 7900XTX (have the XFX Merc 310)? Thanks for covering this though.
Nice video!
- With OC you would also like to increase to power limit to get even more FPS
- With UV I would mix it with OC so in the end you would end up with exactly the same performance as stock but will less power usage.
Not worth it on the 4070, mine can pull 250w and it only gets 1 or 2 fps more.
Excellent video! I personally like to undervolt so that I don't lose any performance. I've done this with my 2070 super and between undervolting the gpu and overclocking memory I get the exact same performace as default settings where I consume much more power.
Why don´t you put +xxx mhz in all the curve? Also, at lower voltages you can overclock a little more than at higher ones.
Would you recommend undervolting and overclocking the RTX 4070 Ti Super? If so, can you make a tutorial on doing that? Thanks.
Just use the power limit. 80%, and you're good
So what was the core clock mhz, +100,+200,?? It just said curve
No need to set it manually on that meter when you already set it on the graph. "Curve" means the curve that you have set in the curve editor. If you raise it to 3GHz and the stock is like 2.6GHz, that means you're already applying +400MHz but you're the one who's specified the curve.
Would be cool to see it against the other GPUs you tested but yeah I'm at 350w with my 6900xt but I'd like 200w for 200fps for apex but might not be possible 😢
it is. my 6900xt (last few days with it btw), is using 190w board power (140w core) and it i still outperforming a 6800xt. i'm only doing this because it coil whines, though.
with MPT, you can do a lot of stuff
At around 220-240W, you can get over stock performance so I think even lower than that should be possible with still nearly stock performance
One of the profiles must be same stock clock and undervolt, so you have the same performance and much lower temps and watts. But overall nice explanation.
Zotac makes great graphics cards for anyone curious. I've got a GTX1070 Mini Zotac I purchased in 2016 and only last year had to replace the fan motor but I just used another fan from a old graphics card to jerry rig it. Still runs perfect and for over 7 years now!
I had both amp extreme airo and trinity 4090, they are the best 4090s you can buy. Use less power that asus tuf and gainward ghost.
what am i missing? i have the same values on the graph on the undervolting and when i hit the checkmark, absolutely nothing happens. idk what to do, i also notice a lot of settings dont really seem to save.
First set the settings, and left click the check mark. unlock the profiles by clicking the lock symbol, then right click on the number to save. If a profile is already saved then it will clear on right click. Click again to save.
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Such a great video!
When undervolting, I keep getting LIM POW, LIM VOLT and the occasional TEMP LIM. BAck when I was still using my laptop(RTX2080) I just lock it in a frequency and below the voltage to remove it. Now I dont know if it still is advicable with the rtx 4070 ti...
I have a Zotac 4070 Twin Edge. When trying to make undervolt below 910mv (flat curve in the MSI Afterburner curve window), the voltage does not go below 910mv. When locking voltage and clock ("L" hotkey in the curve window) below 910 mv, the clock of gpu and memory drops to 405 MHz, at that time GPU-Z and HW-Info display the idle (utilization) state of perfcap, even if some game or furmark is running (of course, performance degrades). How to solve this problem, reduce voltage below 910mv without clock drop?
thank you! i have the spiderman edition 4060 version and i tried unvervolting aswell, and i couldnt go below 1v at 2900mhz
can you please make another video for the 4060 undervolt? because it gets real hot (75c with an agressive fan curve)
standartboost on 4070 is arround 2.5ghz, shouldn't an undervolt to 910 and ramping up to 2700 + 1200 mem not be better then stock ? why is everyone talking about lowering the voltage and also loosing 5% ?
Tried a few 4070's and a 910mv seems to be the minimum voltage for 4070
Bryan said that several times.
is it ok that undervolt doesn't affect furmark but only other apps?
How about 4070 super. Could you make a video?
FurMark isn't stressing out your VRAM as you said at 3:52
what happend if u set low volt and higher clocks on the curve editor? Like 950 locked 2800?
I followed the same method, but without any changes you're getting ~190 frames, while my Windforce OC is getting ~160. Not sure why there's a massive difference with the stock performance.
I'm new to using a gpu and don't know much about these, I'm buying a n rx 6600 , should I change some driver settings when I install the drivers or something?
My psu is 600watt and i have a 4070 with a i910900k I feel like my psu is low for my pc components so should I undervolt my gpu to save it from damage ?
how'd you get all the 2:33 settings so you can see all the ones you want on top?
click and drag
I have a very aggressive undervolt on my Asus Tuf 4090, which I've applied on day one and not looked back since. I have no doubt I could get better performance but didn't want to mess things up so I haven't touched it.
2400Mhz @ 825mV (vram is overclocked +1000Mhz)
Why not overclock and undervolt at the same time so you get the same performance as Stock but with less power consumption??
Excellent guide ,thanks.
I will have to watch more of your video on try again latter. But doing what you were doing with my msi 4070 OC 3 fan model would just instantly crash with that curve you did at 6:32. Tried it with a couple lower clocks but still instant crash. Before I did what you did, I tested to see how far I could get mine to keep on working and it crashed at 1800. In the curve, I tried it at 1230,1000,800, 650.
So just for the fun of it. I just messed around with bitch core clock and mem clock until I got the highest stable fps. Gained about 30fps. Once I booted up cyberpunk 2077, though I had to lower both a bit but still managed to keep my extra fps.
My set up though is through an egpu with a Lenovo legion go.
please do a video on 4070 super undervolting too
I didn't touch the memory clock or the first dot to raise the bar. I just took the last dot dropped to 2300 and raised 950mv dot to 2700mhz and got better test bench scores. 54 degrees c max, max fps 144 that matches my monitor, min 30 fps. High quality settings used.
When I undervolt furmark ignores it and pushes the GPU with higher clock and temperature
You are my hero in the tech youtube scene, thank u for this video. I love everything about you. Godspeed.
Great guide, I couldn’t have done it better myself.
You do have the option most times to get a bit of an overclock while undervolting. I have my RTX 4080 running at 2.8 GHz on 0.975v and it's fantastic
Quick question why did you put the power slider to max and the gpu temp to max on the oc profile?
let me know the time marker of the video, and I will do my best to explain.
For safety
What about Zotac 4070 Twin Edge?