MARIO KART 8: The Winning Formula | GEEK CRITIQUE
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 มิ.ย. 2014
- Mario Kart finally nails the perfect balance between frantic chaos and deep mechanical skill, and gives the Wii U the closest thing it would ever have to a golden age.
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This video is part of TGC's very first season, covering every Mario Kart-a! Excuse the somewhat shaky quality of these early episodes, and check the rest of them out here: th-cam.com/play/PLYoabN6QznuI4o6iXCF3XThSP08LQZyCv.html
The Geek Critique so this series has been over for a while but do you think when 8 deluxe comes out do you think you'll make a mini episode
I am glad to see that you view this as the best Mario Kart thus far; I have been iffy about if it is worth getting as a guy who played every other main Mario Kart. I never actually got a Wii U because of constant discouragement from my big sister; but I vow to get a Switch after I complete this semester of college so I can get my hands on Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (and Breath of the Wild [and Splatoon 2 {and Super Mario Odyssey}]) as well as other titles later down the road.
The future of gaming has never looked so good; Thanks for reminding me that.
N64 Battlemode is my favorite, Wii is my least favorite.
I love being turned into a bomb if I get knocked out first with 3+ players on N64 and chasing down my opponents. >:3
Have you seen Mariokart 8 deluxe?
Add Mario cart 8 delux now!
It's fun to watch this since most of the complaints and suggestions got adresses and expanded in the DLC. You should really do a video about that.
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And now, MK8 Deluxe
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Completely agree. The game was lacking in just a few points (that are aaalmost completely remedied at this point) or didn't have some basic option features, but other than that I absolutely adore this game. It's balanced, it's flashy, it's polished, it's fun; it's what Mario Kart has always been striving to evolve to. It's my favorite in the series to date, and I would say it's easily the "best" in the series.
I agree with you on the roster front, but I do like the Koopalings. However the metal characters and babies are the ones I find massively redundant.
I guess I'd compare it thusly: My favorite Nintendo franchise is Donkey Kong Country. Suppose the next Mario Kart features DK, Diddy, Dixie, Cranky, Funky, Tiny, Chunky, Lanky, and (because why not?) Ted the Boatbuilder from off of Conker's Pocket Tales. I personally would love that. But at the same time, I'd have to admit that there's a real problem with pulling so many similar characters like that. Unless you're as fanatical about DKC as I am, that roster is just going to feel redundant. "Oh good, I unlocked ANOTHER freaking Kong."Still, you're right that compared to the Metals and babies, the Koopalings look like the most diverse and interesting set of characters in gaming history.
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2019 and I'm STILL playing the Wii U version of MK8 all the time
This is absolutely the definitive Mario Kart experience ♥
MichaelLeroi Same it’s my favorite in the series next to 64.
I love having all seven Koopalings in this game; it's the duplicate Mario and Peach characters and the babies that bother me. I may be alone here, but I want to play Paratroopa again! I love that little guy!
Now that the Nintendo Switch is going to have Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, are you going to review it when it comes out towards the end of April?
Mario Kart 8 is more beautiful than any game on the X Box One and and PS4.
Change my mind.
You are spot on with the lack of options. I would love to customize races in Mario Kart. A one-on-one race with no items. A 12 man race with only bullet bills. There are so many crazy things you could do in Mario Kart and they don't give you the freedom to do that. I hope the next one has more options.
I'd say 8 is the best Mario Kart yet, and my second favorite behind Double Dash. 8 is SO full of charm with its unique levels, and fun as hell either online or with friends.
Someone is going to kill me for this, but I'm saying it:
Mario Kart 8's Rainbow Road is, in my opinion, the best Mario Kart track ever created. The futuristic yet realistic space theme just WORKS for me.
Jhozan THANK YOU
@@immersion726 The music is really good too.
It’s certainly creative and I love when Nintendo tries new things
Kind of unreal that this game’s foundation is so solid it’s been the current Mario Kart for almost 10 years with minimal complaints.
I think 1 lap for N64 Rainbow Road is good, but the actual track layout has been shortened, I think. Not only are we racing less laps, but racing less within a single lap...once again, I think.
If the track layout were extended slightly, I think it would've had a good length.
I like having all 7 Koopalings, but really, they could've stayed while retaining previous characters that have been cut. And there are definitely unnecessary characters. Metal Mario could just be an alternative skin for Mario, reducing clutter on the screen, and Pink Gold Peach could just be cut, or saved for DLC when Nintendo has run out of new characters.
And yeah, extra customization like lap choice, item choice, etc. would be great! I wish the game were more supported with DLC and updates that addresses concerns like that.
K-leb I feel a better compromise to rainbow road would be to make it TWO laps like that Wario stage in Double Dasj
I agree 100% with your review. MK8 is a great game with a few rough edges. I've had a ton of fun playing it so far and hope to continue enjoying it into the future.
Or at least until Smash comes out! xD
When will you do a part 2 for Mario Kart 8 addressing the DLC or MK8 Deluxe?
How does this guy only have 500 subscribers? He's AWESOME!!!
I know, right? :D
@@GeekCritique 5 years later, and this comment still holds water. You are awesome, and your content is awesome.
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I just found you guys and want to let you know what an awesome channel you have created! Also, loved the avatar reference in the beginning. Can't wait to see more in the future!
Sokka is the best! xD Glad you're enjoying everything. I'm getting to work on a new video tonight.
Oh yeah, and where did you find the channel, if you don't mind me asking?
Dude, dude. Leave the Koopalings.
What we have too much of is babies, metals, and costumes.
Don't leave the koopalings,Bowser Jr isn't in
It wouldn't really be that bad if they were part of the original character and nor an individual one
he mentioned them too
Yep, this video was worth the wait and I can see the 7+ hours you said you put into it! A solid review!
Hah, making this review was so funny. I'd spend hours and hours editing, get so sick of it... and then lay down to go to bed and play a few rounds of Mario Kart 8 before going to sleep. That's how good the game is.
7 years later this video is still entertaining, but the advance of time & release of not only the original DLC packs, but Mario Kart 8 Deluxe really make me wonder if you'll make a video on that version in the future.
Great video! You make some quality content and I'll definitely keep watching
Thank you!
Just subscribed. Great retrospective. I love to hear that someone else than me also don't care fore the battle mode. I play Mario kart to race not battle with balloons
Why is it that every time I hear someone talk about the roster, they always say that the Koopalings are the problem? I just don't get it; if the babies and re-skin characters were not there, there would be room for all the other characters people want. Seriously. It makes NO sense.
I'm sure that the reskin characters took far less time to make than any other character on the roster. Taking them out would probably just result in one less filled slot, it's like when people bitch about clones in Smash Bros without understanding why they exist
After watching about say...and hour or two of your stuff, I'm most definitely subscroobing.
Chris BDude Man, there really is quite a lot of it at this point, haha.
Bless you for saying that an option to keep the camera upright during the anti-grav sections would be good.
My friends gave me nothing but crap for saying that.
"No one game can save a system."
Halo would like to have a word.
The people upset about your Double Dash review are just holding on too much to nostalgia lol But yeah MK8 definitely is the pinnacle of the series. Well...I should be clearer. MK8 Deluxe is the perfect Mario Kart. All the DLC and the new battle mode makes it perfect along with the ability to use 2 items now.
3 years and a remaster later, Mount Wario still gets picked way too frequently in online matches.
Well, to be fair, to a lot of the Switch players, the whole game is brand new. But yeah, not much has changed! At least there are 50% more courses, so it doesn't come up as an option quite as frequently!
I remember one time, and I don't know if I referenced it in this video, but I played Mount Wario in something like 6 out of 10 games online. It was awful, and I still resent the stage to this day, haha.
Excellent use of The Last Airbender opening theme. True video poetry.
I still miss Dry Bones. He was my favorite racer... It is really hard for me to play the new game because of that. I just loved that character so much. Right now I play as Baby Daisy... but :( Yeah just not as good. I have the DLC though and the DLC is great. I just really want Dry Bones. And I don't think he is ever coming back.
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That use of Avatar the Last Airbender music in the beginning was so hype, outstanding!
I’d be interested in a revisit to the game given your modern writing and now that this game has over double the courses it had at launch
My problem with Mario Kart 8 is the same problem a lot of people have with the game: there are too many items that don't make enough of a difference on the match. In Mario Kart 8, you're either fighting for the lead, or you're hopelessly behind. Items can't net you new places as much as they used to. When you're in the top few spaces, you don't get much of anything. If you're between 4th and 8th place, you get the best items in the game...but they still don't last long enough or make enough of an impact to change the match. 8th-12th place saddle you with a bunch of items that are quite powerful, but you're so far behind that they won't matter....they'll either wear off or be used up and you'll have climbed into the tier where nothing much happens.
I still think 7 is better.
All the koopalings was a great addition they are some of the best character I'm Mario games
Such an orgasmic soundtrack. Whatever corners they cut elsewhere in the game, as long as it went towards sound design, it was worth it.
Another great video, keep it up
Really awesome video man, keep it up!!
Thanks a lot!
6:24 WOW! I am SO not used to seeing only 8 cups instead of 12. I got 8 Deluxe, but one of my friends had the original and all the DLC too. So I rarely ever saw the original release’s selection screen!
I for one loved double dash. I loved the gamecube as well. Even tho i never had one, my brothers did
Looking forwards to your commentary about the DLC, man~~
Loved the use of the Avatar theme at the beginning.
That intro hits different after how the Wii U performed :v
At least 8 Deluxe has a proper Battle Mode
That outro hits even worse after all them ports
How to make my favorite mario kart: Put fawful in it
Glad to see some one love 7 and 8 the most for once
So in other words they made it easier for the casual gamer. That's why I'll always love double dash. The fuckery while racing friends made it so fun. I've never had closer and more exciting races with friends than with double dash.
Loving the Avatar music at the beginning there lol
Wario and Luigi have been my mains ever since Mario Kart 64.
thank goodness dry bones and bowser Jr are getting added, though although i didn't see diddy...
Nice legend of korra music at the start
The best thing about double dash is bob bom blast with 3 or 4 players
I hope Mario Kart 8 Deluxe can fix the very few problems in this gem of a game. More characters, stages, and a fixed Battle Mode are are colossal steps in the right direction. Now all we need are those character and item switches and Old Diddy back behind the wheel.
All previous characters and tracks plus a few more like kirby and metroid as well as f zero to expand the cast etc. And boom its mario kart ultimate
was hoping you had done an updated version for MK8 deluxe to touch on the new features!!
Really hoping TGC makes a new video looking at MK8 DLC and MK8DX to round out this series :D
I love having the Koopalings due to nostalgia from SMW as a 4 year old. The baby characters the different color/metal peaches is just dumb. The latter are what SSBU would term "echo fighters". And there could have been one baby character with different skins.
Now let's see your retrospective on MK8 DX since now we have way more DLC tracks available!
My only complaint is the super horn, overall one of the best
Really enjoy the videos. Agree to disagree on the Koopalings. Can't have one without all of them. And they're all fantastic. The Babies? Agree.
Fawful... FAWFUL?!
We'll show them, see? Rookie!
The soundtrack to this game is S+++++ tier. Dolphin Shoals and Bowser's Castle are just *smacks lips with Italian finger jesture* magnificent
8:25 I didn't catch that. What exactly were you saying that's unpolished?
+Killermy3 I probably should have just said this, but eh, this was one of my earliest videos. The MKTV animation that I zoom in on doesn't loop properly for some reason.
And the good news is: if you skipped over the Wii U like I did, you get a 2nd chance with the Switch version which addresses a bunch of the gripes you mentioned.
Though there's still no Diddy Kong on the roster >:(
funny thing is the delux version is better in every way, they took a hint from double dash with double item slots and added a bunch of new characters, even reintroducing several who SHOULD have been in (sadly no diddy) also added two items in the ghost and feather I think new karts too and most dlc carts are unlockables as they should be, they may have done rebalancing too cuz items don’t seem anywhere as invasive compared to what I rememberedbefore
Well there goes my shot at ever playing this game. I used the hell out of Dry Bones in MK Wii.
When I was a kid playing MK64, I thought that speed was tops and so I played Toad a lot. As I moved forward though I really noticed the value of the heavier characters and by the time MKWii came out I was basically exclusively playing the heavies. Dry Bowser and Funky Kong were my jams, man. In the Offroader kart or in Wario's Bike. Usually the kart. AND I used the Wii wheel. And I wasn't bad at the game... Like at all? It's a little weird to think about.
But I use the gamepad for MK8 and it's glorious
I thought Toad and Koopa Troopa had low top speed, though. Maybe you mean the small characters can accelerate faster?
Thank you for your perspective. I have new appreciation for Mario Kart 8. And I appreciate your thoughts on the Wii U. Too many people tear it down just because it had relatively poor sales. It probably flopped harder than the GameCube. But I think its library of games is even better than the GameCube.
I'm still trying to play through my Wii U game library. "Nintendo Land" feels like a game that I'd have to play for 100+ hours to only complete about 90% of the content. I put 118 hours into "The Wind Waker HD" (hardly used the Swift Sail; wanted to get perfectly centered photos of all the figurines) after missing out on the GameCube version. I've liked "Tropical Freeze" so far (18 hours and only in world 2?). Then, I haven't gotten too far into 3D World or Smash. About 10 more games haven't been touched yet.
I shared this on /r/nintendo and /r/WiiU. Hope this helps you guys out!
Dude, thank you so much-a for-to sharing my video.
The Geek Critique No Problem! Fun Fact: I actually found your channel through the Mario Kart 7 retrospective posted on /r/3DS. You deserve it and I hope it brings more people to your channel! Here are the links to both of the shared videos on reddit: www.reddit.com/r/nintendo/comments/27xmpl/the_geek_critique_mario_kart_8/ www.reddit.com/r/wiiu/comments/27xjvr/the_geek_critique_mario_kart_8/
AlexReyesInHD The Geek Critique Yeah, I also found the channel through that post. Good work sharing, this channel deserves viewers.
What about having Goombas included as characters? I think just simply watching them would be hilarious and great. There's also the fact that Amiibo or DLC can easily add more characters. Also, I found that the Retro Rainbow Road was just way too edited, and I didn't recognize it. If it weren't for the reminder on the loading screen, I would've guessed it was a new track. And WHERE did that space train come from?
Yeah, I didn't mention that, but I agree. Maybe it's because Rainbow Road 64 holds so much nostalgia for me, but all those changes did kind of... I won't say ruin, but they CHANGED the atmosphere.
Yer Amiibo is sure to bring more characters to the game. I'll be very happy with that :)
Fixed most of the character issue in Mario kart 8 deluxe
I did enjoy this game over a friend's house but I still don't think its enough to sway me on buying a Wii U. Nothing about this game or the actual system has made me care about it at all.......until Smash Brothers comes out anyway. I really enjoyed this video and the retrospective itself so well done!
Thanks for the support! Yeah, I'm a big Nintendo fan, but generally, you should never buy a system until there are plenty of games you NEED to play to make the purchase worth it.
I might wait until Star Fox is out, then I think there will be plenty to get such as that, MK8 SSB, Zelda U and maybe a new Metroid
It's weird how he didn't mention 200cc....... But this analysis is great!
I've watched about seven or eight of your videos, and I've appreciated all of them.
It's been a while since I played Kart 8, but I had kind of mixed feelings when comparing it to the rest of the series. I know that I've owned Super, 64, and Wii. I don't think I've played any of "Double Dash" or the portable versions.
Graphics: I wish MKWii had looked like this game! The art style reminds me of 7, but I'm sure 7 wasn't in HD.
Music: I can't really hear MKWii's soundtrack in my mind. Kart 8 probably has the best remixes of the older music, and the newer songs might be the best in the series.
Beyond that, I think it gets subjective?
Characters: I remember playing often as Funky Kong in MKWii; now he's not in Kart 8? Also, when they did the Zelda and Animal Crossing DLC, I felt like that changed it from a true "Mario Kart" game to "anybody on Nintendo's roster can drive a go-kart." That seems like a slippery slope where they could turn it into a bloated Smash Bros. roster with third party characters.
Vehicles: Starting from MKWii, I think I liked the bikes more than the karts. They seemed less bulky and like it was easier to land tricks. In Kart 8, I've probably driven more in the karts, since there didn't' feel like a huge difference between them and the bikes. Also, the "customization" overwhelms me in Kart 8. Why do you keep unlocking wheels that look like reskins of existing wheels? Then they're not grouped together in a similar place, or I can't see a stat boost from using the different colors (I may be wrong on that). The gliders seem to be 90% cosmetic, because only a few of them (one matching your character?) appear to change your stats. There were maybe two to four extra vehicles in MKWii that I thought were hard to differentiate, but I liked how your selections were based on the weight of your character, and they kind of did the customization for you.
Controls/Handling: It's hard to say, since I'm out of practice with Kart 8. I think I LOVED how they took away the automatic "traction control" and forced you to manually drift. I always tried to use the manual drift in MKWii, and I wonder if that held me back in online races (assuming other people turned on automatic traction). When I did time trials in manual mode and then with the automatic handling, it looked like the automatic handling was always better (consistent lap times), which made it feel cheap or like a cheat code for less skilled players.
Tracks: I'd have to say that the design AND the selection felt disappointing in Kart 8. I started off at the slower speeds, so many of the tracks just looked like five lane highways with almost no obstacles to dodge or any "choke points." Why do some of these new tracks split up sometimes? If neither path is faster, and if you can't hit someone on a different path with your items, then it's tough to see the point. Didn't the Wii game have more shortcuts or areas where you'd risk slowing down unless you had a mushroom? It's hard to remember the selection in 8 to comment on them, but I have more fond memories of the Wii tracks. There were the occasional bland tracks (Luigi Circuit and the Yoshi one?). Also, in Kart 8, I felt like they were trying to copy track features from Wii instead of inventing something new. Is it me, or does the airport feel like a new Coconut Mall? Also, one track (new Rainbow Road?) had the alternating conveyor belts like Toad's Factory.
AI/Difficulty: In Kart 8, I started out "grinding" in 50cc. Unfortunately, it does feel more like a grind in this game, because the DLC makes it TWELVE Grand Prixs that you have to win, at four or five different speeds (with the addition of 200cc?)??!!! Anyway, at 50cc, it almost got boring how I'd spend maybe one lap moving up to first place. Then, for the rest of the Grand Prix, you would almost think I was the only person on the track doing a time trial. I think MKWii was similar at those difficulty levels, but I'd get hit by two or three blue shells on the final lap when nobody else had a realistic chance to catch me. I don't remember if it was in my race, or something I saw online, but there was also a Kart 8 example where a 3rd place CPU took out the CPU who was leading the race, so that the human driver could win. It just seems like Kart 8 is afraid to challenge you?
Gimmicks: Why has the series been teaching us that you'll slow down if you go off-road or hit something, and then, in anti-gravity mode, all of that logic is reversed? You'll go SLOWER by not hitting anything. It's crazy to have races/tracks with two alternating sets of rules. I even wondered if they added obstacles to the anti-grav sections because you might be racing in the lead with nobody to give you a boost.
Miscellaneous: I know you mentioned that they possibly ran out of development time, but WHY is there NO celebration cutscene when you win a Grand Prix? The series has been showing that podium on the console games since the Super NES days.
Basically, there are tweaks I would make to both games (Wii and 8), but probably more of them to 8? You or someone else was mentioning a way to edit items. I've seen that menu in Mario Kart Wii's "Versus" mode. There are about three options, and one lets you turn off anything besides shells and bananas. In Kart 8, I feel like the horn is kind of "useless." I usually get it when nobody else has a blue shell, and then I only have a banana or a green shell when someone else does get the blue nuisance. I'd get rid of the "traction control" in Wii to make everyone learn how to drift and boost.
Now I feel like playing Mario Kart 8 again! I'm kind of upset that it's not possible to play the Wii game online anymore.
9:21 You, my friend, are unreal.
Even with the release of MK8D along with the additions & fixes it brought... this is still the better version, in my opinion. It focused a lot more on balancing the racing, while MK8D flounders about with having double items ON TOP OF 12 racers per race. If things got chaotic at times in the original MK8, the Switch version gets bad enough to a point where it becomes unfun.
I'm totally like you. Play battle mode once or twice, never thought of again.
Maybe the koopalings could've been alternate 'colours' of Bowser Jr.
when mario kart 8 deluxe comes out could you do an updated review seeing as there are a few change being made. most notable 2 item slots. if you do that would be awesome thanks
They need to make about 50 completely new tracks, and add the cast of Golden sun as players. And fix every other issue. Other than that, I still love Mario Kart!
'If you thought MK8 was just more of the same you couldnt be wrong, theres actually a new feature which barely changed anything'
We love Mario Kart BECAUSE its more of the same.
O yeah, I forgot about the WiiU.
11:00 And it turns out they did just that with the DLC
That avatar last Airbender intro though
can you do a comparison between this and the deluxe version?
You know, I hope that Mario Kart 8 will get more DLC. This way they could add more tracks, more characters and maybe even more kart parts to the mix.
Yes, it already has DLC confirmed, there is some promo thingamajig going on between Mercedes and Nintendo, so there will be a Mercedes chassis available as free DLC, which means that further DLC is certainly possible. Also, I wouldn't mind paying a couple of bucks for a new cup or a character pack.
Agreed. Nintentdo very rarely does DLC but it's something I really hope we see.
WaddleDee105
There's dlc,but I guess when your comment was made,there was no dlc.
Lastly, i love the donut plains 2 remake!!!
no update for dlc, 200cc, battle mode and deluxe?
How do you feel about Mario Kart 8 Deluxe now? As I was watching this video, I noticed lots of points where I was thinking "That's been addressed now." Like the character selection and the custom items.
gained 4000 subscribers in less than a year, not bad hey? your videos are awesome by the way! what do you think about the zelda and animal crossing dlc?
JJmanrulez1 Absolutely awesome, some of the best value in DLC. I'd pay $10 per pack, and it'd still be more than worth it. Hope they do more!
yeah, I'm still waiting on some Kirby DLC!
Mount Wario is a masterpiece!
Man, that intro.
Wait, wait, wait! is that in 2:50 City Escape (Sonic adventure 2) Nintendized?!
What's the music in the 3:26?
1) No, but you're not far off! Both games took inspiration form the iconic downhill slopes of San Francisco, which is why they look so similar.
2) That song is Electrodome's course theme in MK8: Mario Kart 8 Music - Electrodrome
The Geek Critique
thanks!
Mario Kart still has a lot to learn, but I believe it can save the world?
SelfAwarePedant Have you heard about Guru Lakitu?
Best Mario Kart to DATE!... Unless we count Double Dash... Which normal people do...
Do another on the deluxe edition!
Tekken 3D s Tekken 6, except without the 6 part. I mean you got all 40 characters... but that's it. Not even joking.
10:47... foreshadowing
I think GameCube was the best console hardware Nintendo made (given the time it was released in of course) Nintendo managed to make a console very close to the Xbox at a much cheaper price. As for the Wii U, it is more powerful in some ways (more RAM, better GPU) and weaker in others (CPU)
Even if Mario Kart 8 was just more of the same, I think a lot of players would still be happy with that.
I really hope Nintendo puts out DLC for Mario Kart 8 (I want to see more retro courses!). I found it annoying how Nintendo shoveled out Mario Party games on previous systems when they could have put out a second Mario Kart game.
GameCube was awesome. I still have more physical games for it than I do any other system (aside from Sega Genesis/CD/32X, but that's kind of cheating). LOVED that thing.
The Geek Critique I prefer the N64's games myself (but that may be due to nostalgia)
I don't like that I can only hold one item. All I ever did was hold my one item behind me, afraid to ever drop it or else leave myself defenseless. And that got kinda boring. Mario Kart is about bashing opponents with items, not hoarding shields.
They should of included these characters.
1. Kamek
2. Diddy
3. Dixie
4. Cranky
5. Prof E.Gadd
6. King K Rool
7. Captain Toad (i know he wasn't really around then).
8. Dry bones.
9. Bowser Jr.
10. King boo
11. Funky
12. Fawful
vI M4YH3Mz Iv The saga will end up being Nintendo Kart/Smash Bros. Kart lol
What do you think about Mario Kart 8 Deluxe's changes?