Donkey Kong Country - Nintendo Strikes Back! | GEEK CRITIQUE
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This video is part of TGC's coverage of Donkey Kong Country games and spinoffs! Don't miss the rest of them: th-cam.com/play/PLYoabN6QznuIx7X1DnZyPICinmO9podH9.html
loved watching your review of the DKC series. I am moving onto your reviews of the newer DKC games now.
one request. I would love to hear your thoughts on two famous Donkey Kong country hacks. Donkey kong kremlins revenge and Donkey kong country 2 the lost levels. Many say they are as good as the games they are based on. I'd be curious to see if you agree
The Geek Critique i REALLY like your vids. i love dk returns. What dk game should i play next? Btw it would be awesome if you could do a geek critique on Donkey Kong 94 for Game Boy
I feel like DKC held up, the second especially
"Most other game heroes were out to save pricesses, conquer empires, save the world! But DK? Nope.. He was a man of the 90's. He just wanted his stuff back." LOL I love that :D
To be fair, Kirby just wanted to be able to dream again.
And I was three when it came out.
David Wise can't get enough credit! His soundtrack is a big part of what makes this game so memorable!
Wrong, it's your brain and thought processes and choice that makes it memorable. Something on its own has no influence on being memorable.
@@zebunker your brain is broken...
i think there some of the best soundtracks in gaming
@@zebunker Lol you're not wrong, but I think it can be safely assumed that the fact of your own perception having to exist in order to enjoy a thing is pretty much always implied when someone makes a statement like this.
"Winky is a frog and is absolutely perfect in every way."
Liked, favorited!
As a modern gamer, I can easily say that DKC's graphics still look fucking amaze-balls to this day.
Amazed how they can achieve it on the snes or amazed in general
@@somethingsomething9008 mostly how it has that nice 2-D yet 3-D look that’s just so charming.
I thinks that's one of the reason the newer Donkey Kong games lack the charm
@@somethingsomething9008 you’re not wrong, I still like the gameplay of the newer games, but something about the visual charm is off (except in the levels where you’re just a silhouette, those look perfect).
Not just the graphics, the music and overall atmosphere were 10/10. I will never forget seeing this for the first time. I am 33 now. Still like to go back to it sometimes.
My favorite atmospheric moment in DKC1 was level 4-1 where the snowstorm starts setting in as you progress throughout the level. First the beautiful mountain in the background disappears. Then the trees. By the time you hit the checkpoint the blizzard is in full swing and ONE wrong move sends you plummeting to your doom. At the time, it really felt like you were diving into a blizzard with no certainty of survival. It transitioned really well into the (unfortunately) one-of-a-kind crystal cave level, and then back out into another mountain level but this time with the blizzard quickly subsiding. Taken as a whole the trio of these levels is amazing, but it's that first level that gets all the memories.
I like to imagine the blizzard raging on during slip side ride and disappearing once ice age alley was playable.
We're liking this not for the very sweet shoutout at the end, but because of the expertly-crafted K. Rool Kredits joke. That got a good chortle out of us.
Seriously though, this is probably the best summary I've ever seen of why DKC is so magical. We've spent 15 years defending the damn game during the hostile GameCube years and the Tropical Freeze backlash, and you basically wrapped up the argument in 16 minutes. Fantastic. There's nothing we can argue about here. Also, you did it by throwing in an Enguarde "hologram" joke and a Brash Bear cameo. Bravo.
The prospect of you doing a video for DKC2 IS definitely exciting, since all of those criticisms were more or less resolved with DKC2 and it's more Geek Critique goodness. Then again, I'm sure you could find a way to make a video about Donkey Kong Country Barrel Maze exciting. Let's see that first!
DK Vine Glad you enjoyed it so much! And y'know, if I do for DK what I did for Sonic, I'll end up talking about Barrel Maze before this series is over. xD Also: The hologram joke was conceptualized months ago. The kredits gag was something I thought up while recording game footage. But the Brash Bear cameo was literally the last thing I added, in a state of semi-delirious exhaustion, as I was doing my final watch-through before rendering.
DK Vine I'm curious as to what this "Tropical Freeze" backlash was. Were there people who seriously didn't like Tropical Freeze?
bobrocks95 Mostly people who wanted Retro to make a fourth Metroid game instead. Reviewers were getting death threats for giving the game a perfect score.
DK Vine Wow, absolutely insane. They must not really enjoy games that much if all they want is for Retro to pump out Metroid sequels; as good as the trilogy was it's a waste of their talent to keep them on Metroid when it was probably their decision to do something else anyway.
bobrocks95 Well, the Metroid series hit a REAL critical low point with Other M. I think the Metroid fans were hoping for Retro to swoop in and bring the series back to prominence. When that didn't happen, yeah, some of them took it out on Donkey Kong.
Here I am, once again, starting to watch all the Geek Critique videos about the Donkey Kong franchise. There's something about these videos that I just love, I love them so much that no joke I lost count of how many times I've watched them.
I've been playing this game for 20+ years, and not once did I realize that the set piece found in the intro (3:13) is from the original Donkey Kong construction site. Wow.
Same here!! I only noticed because I read your comment! Playing this since 1995! Incredible how I missed it!
And cranky is the original donkey kong, Donkey Kong junior is who you are using in Donkey Kong country. Cranky (old kong), passed on the mantle.
@@aarongreenfield9038 yeah he points that out in the video
I only noticed it in this video too. I thought it was a stage or something. Makes a LOT more sense that they're construction girders.
I never had a snes growing up, but I started playing the trilogy recently and I fell in love with it. Even today, I can appreciate how the graphics look compared to everything else at the time. And the gameplay is so fluid it it encourages speed-runs on later playthroughs.
But why nintendo removed the trilogy off the virtual console in the US I won't understand...
Finalblue1234 The DKC trilogy has been out on the Wii U Virtual Console, and the Donkey Kong Land trilogy on the 3DS VC, for a couple of months now... in Europe. No clue why they haven't come out in NA yet. On a somewhat-related note, NA's first three Wii games on Wii U were Mario Galaxy 2, Punch-Out, and Metroid Prime Trilogy. In Europe, they got DKC Retruns instead of Punch-Out.
Geek Critique Reggie's probably been trying to appease the Metroid fanboys ever since E3 2013 by depriving Donkey Kong fans of their games. He probably has "should have been Metroid" ringing in his head when he tries to sleep at night.
"Where's Mother 3" and "It should have been Metroid" will be on Reggie's tombstone.
*Hears the DKC Credits music at **15:23*
"Keep it in old boy.....keep it in....."
*Tear rolls down*
was that DK fucking candy in his tree house in the end? lol
6:31 Funny you said that, you see in the SNES there was another game, called Plok, with such a great music that the man himself, Shigeru Miyamoto, he didn't believe that the music from Plok was coming from a regular SNES and that the composer must have installed a modified audio chip.
Of course that wasn't the case, the music was just freaking awesome for a SNES game, and the composer, Tim Follin, was that good.
I'm so glad that you pointed out the sound design of this game. One of my favorite subtle aspects that creates the particular atmosphere of each of these games were the sounds.
If I may ask, what's your favorite song in the DKC series?
Mine has to be Forest Interlude, followed *very* closely by Krook's March.
Oh goodness, that's a tough one.
I mean, they're all great in their own right; as in each create their own unique feeling that I love.
Hmm...
Donkey Kong Rescued and Mining Melancholy are close...
but funny enough, I'm the same as you. Forest Interlude is my (current) favorite, while Krook's March used to be.
And yeah, those are my favorite in the trilogy, not just DKC2.
My top 10 DKC songs:
10. Water World (DKC3)
9. Rockface Rumble (DKC3)
8. DK Island Swing (DKC1)
7. Stickerbush Symphony (DKC2)
6. In a Snow-Bound Land (DKC2)
5. Fear Factory (DKC1)
4. Life in the Mines (DKC1)
3. Hot-Head Bop (DKC2)
2. Forest Interlude (DKC2)
1. Mining Melancholy (DKC2)
This is my favorite Donkey Kong Country game. I disagree about the graphics though I think they aged well.
@@smokescast They have been now, if you get the switch version.
@@aarongreenfield9038 what switch version?
@@lecram59 Tropical freeze.
@@aarongreenfield9038 that’s a sequel not a re master remake or port.
I picked a good day to subscribe! ^_^ I love Donkey Kong Country!! :D
Never been a better time!
wow Conner your on everything now
Hey conner
Get Rekt No
Nice to see you ConnerTheWaffle 😊
"It would have been as well remembered as Myst"
As I understand it, though, Myst is a cult classic held up as one of the best point-and-click adventure games.
Also, I feel the need to point out that you mention the game starting up DK Island Swing while you have Funky's Flights playing in the background.
Key word: cult classic.
I know it did sell well, but I feel that nowadays more people would recognize DKC than Myst.
It is weird though that Funky's Fugue was playing during that statement.
Caleb Jaaniste Maybe it's the people I hang out with, then, because I only ever hear about DKC when I go searching for it, and hear Myst mentioned frequently in comparison. And I grew up with DKC, and only ever played Myst for the first time this year.
Kraigon42 I've only heard of Myst through a Guinness World Records book and through conversation maybe once. I don't hear people mention DKC much either, but I know a bunch of people who know or played it, as well as it being something that pops up more often on the internet.
But it does depend on people's circumstances, yes. I look up DKC more, so that would be a reason why it seems to be mentioned more for me.
I think today most people would struggle to name the sequels to Myst, no matter how well they sold.
If you're trying to draw comparisons, that's a little unfair. It's easy to name a sequel when you only have to remember a 2 or a 3.
Miyamoto definitely said that line about Donkey Kong, it was in an interview with Stephen L Kent and was also reiterated in his book.
In a way, I can kinda see where he is coming from. Even for the time it wasn't a very complex game, and the level design was pretty simple. But what made it so good was that all the ingredients just fit so well together. The music, the rhythmic, straightforward feel of the game, the atmosphere, etc. It's like a really well made simple vanilla cupcake. It just tastes so good!
@@bubbythebear6891 I feel like DKC is an example of how most games were pretty crappy back in the day and so even though DKC didn't do much to move platforming into a new dimension, it was well polished controls and solid art that people were really aching for. DKC just feels good to play IMO. All I wanted back in the 90's was a game that wasn't janky.
From the Mariowiki.
"The claim originates from the 2001 book "The Ultimate History of Video Games", which has author Steven Kent claiming that Shigeru Miyamoto made the comment to Rare co-founder and Donkey Kong Country director Tim Stampers during an interview; the book goes on to detail that Miyamoto was frustrated after the original graphical style of Yoshi's Island was rejected for "not having enough punch" and that he was pressured by marketing to feature graphics more similar to Donkey Kong Country."
@@VampyreBassist Not sure how Yoshi's Island would have looked in a DKC style. Maybe like Yoshi's Story? I'm glad Miyamoto didn't listen. I couldn't imagine Yoshi's Island looking like that!
@@bubbythebear6891 It would look like shit
I kinda found it hilarious that Cranky Kong just roasts the game throughout it, even at the end and in the manual XD
This was really well put together. Keep up the awesome work, TGC!
This is definitely one of the best retrospective videos about this game I have watched.
You did a really great job on summarizing why this game is such a classic and why it still holds up well to this day.
“The game sounds beautiful “ gang plank gallon intensifies
I clicked on this video by total curiosity, as I've seen it appear a bit in my suggested videos feed.
About 10 seconds into the video, I was already immersed, and every sentence I listened to I was already waiting for the next. Outstanding narration ! The pacing is excellent, there isn't anything superfluous, and there is a constant flow of informations at just the right pace. Add in your way of talking, that puts emphasis where needed so that listening is an ease, and helps making the jokes land, makes for what i'd call quality content x)
This video might be 4 years old, but I've watched newer ones and they're just as good. Instant sub !
well said same here
TGC, I think I figured out one reason why your show is so good. You don't just review the video game, you review the "who, what, when, where, why, how" of the video game. My old mentor in writing would love your show if she was still around. She didn't play video games, but your videos are just so damn thorough and engaging, she would rave to me about you if she watched them. And she would explain how I needed to incorporate some of your technique into my work as well. If somebody asks me for writing tips, I'm gonna think of you, Geek Critique.
BTW: Nintendo just casually dropped Donkey Kong Country on their Nintendo Switch Online update today (7/72020).
What was that footage of Donkey Kong in his house at the end?!
I'm wondering the same, I've been looking for it too!
its footage of donkey getting it on with candy
It’s from an E3 I’m pretty sure
Nice little dose of nostalgia on my lunch break 😅
I played his game so much as a kid. Put in so much work then when I finally got to k. Rool and that song kicks in.... I still credit my love for heavy metal to that song. After so many attempts to beat it and I finally do that ending scene/ credits is nothing less than satisfying. I will never forget the times his game brought me my brother and father together, just having fun and tanking turns to play.
This and Super Mario RPG really impressed me back when they came out, and I still think they look pretty good now.
The WSG sent me here, Happy Birthday Josh!
man, you make me feel like it's the 90's all over again, thanks so much for this great review!
I remember the TV commercial for this game. Nintendo finally clapped back at Sega's years of antagonistic advertising. The message was simple "We have a game that looks THIS good, without the need for $300 worth of useless dust collecting add-ons!"
That one was really smart of nintendo
Was Donkey Kong getting it on with Candy at 15:42?
One of my favorite games of all-time, it never dawned on me that so much of this game never actually happened in the jungle until you aptly pointed it out. Regardless of locale, the game is phenomenal.
A guy who might like donkey kong more than I do. Never thought I would see the day!
Didnt realize until watching this that those are girders cranky is standing on a la the original arcade game. That's amazing
YEEEEEEEEES! Bout' damn time you did this review!
I've never really gotten the backlash against the DKC series over the years. I guess being overrated might apply to the first game, but even then it wasn't that bad. It was a somewhat flawed and short, still but solid platformer that set the path for both a fantastic masterpiece and an underrated gem on the SNES.
Patch93 Haha, I know, DKC was one of those games where there was no way I wouldn't be doing a video for it.
DKC underrated? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
This is one of the most critically acclaimed games of all time, how is it underrated? I love the DKC games but they are not underrated. In fact I always thought it was a tiny overrated.
lacoot Patch said that DKC set the stage for both a fantastic masterpiece and an underrated gem. I'm sure the underrated gem was in reference to Donkey Kong Country 3, which got largely ignored in its day since all the focus was on the next generation, and even now is often considered a lesser game than the first two.
DKC itself is certainly not underrated, but it has faced a surprising amount of derision in the years since its release.
prolly cuz the graphics haven't aged well compared to handmade sprites
Man I cant believe it took me this long to find these videos. Donkey Kong Country was my all time favorite game. No other game can come close to the greatness of DKC. I have just sub and i cant wait to see what other videos you make.
My 5th time starting this critique series again, this are PURE GOLD.
Your DKC vids have always been my faves, so, yeah, I'm watching through them again!
Sweet! It's always nice when you have a big backlog of evergreen content like this to go through, and you can build up a ton of it over the years. I do the same thing with DBD!
In honor of DKC1 being added to Nintendo Switch Online, I'm rewatching this video. Looking forward to finally beating this title.
DKC's been out long enough to where it COULD be many TH-cam viewers' father's Donkey Kong.
RazorBeamz ...woah.
I have never gotten tried of rewatching your DKC1 and 2 Videos, you truly speak to why I love the Donkey Kong Country series.
I keep coming back to your videos on DKC, Metroid and Smash. I just can't stay away.
The Geek Critique
Your review is just awesome, you really understood what the game went for. Your narration really gears me up to play the game again.
Found this through DK Vine and I love it! Very well done and a great look at one of my favorite series ever.
As others said - I'd love to see a similar video on DKC 2. You could do it justice!
Subscribed. Can't wait to watch more of your work.
Ben Stegner DKC2 is on its way!
@ 2:04 when you said the bit where "this isn't.... This is..Donkey Kong Country!" I let out an "YEAH, DONKEY KONG!" and here I am just watching this by myself.
To me the CGI renders of the 90's look so much better in terms of realism than the modern renditions we often get today in gaming. How is that even possible?
EDIT: Oh yeah I still have my original SNES with all three DKC games. I got my system as part of the original DKC console bundle for my B-Day one year. Still have the box somewhere. :)
25 years later, I'm still learning new things about Donkey Kong Country
LOL the walking away as the kiss is being blown @ you @ the save point!!! I remember doing that!
Thank you for this amazing video series!
I think you read new comments from here but you intoduced me to 2 series I thought I would never like metroid and DKC recently bought DKC2 and Metroid so thanks just wanted to say how much I love your vids and your channel ! Alfo thanks for showing me games I now love !
this was fantastic story telling and editing!
nothing more satisfying than having Winkey and stepping on those giant wasps
4:20 If it's mundane motivation you want, in BFD (another Rare game), the entire reason the panther king was after Conker was because Conker was the right size to prop up a table leg so the king wouldn't spill his milk.
Fantastic channel. Whenever someone brings up Donkey Kong, I have to listen.
12:25 Not sure if it's been mentioned but that 'Leap of Faith' in the second level is there because the enemy placement makes it likely you will die and see the barrel on your way off the screen.
Lol at the end of the video it looks like donkey is getting it on in the tree house. But anyways great video dude donkey kong country is one of my all time favorites makes me miss the 90s so much as it seemed developers actually cared back then as opposed to now makes me miss the being a kid as now im 21. And im now a subscriber keep up the good work.
Ah, the nostalgia. I definitely remember it but forgot what some of the levels looked like. The graphics actually hold up pretty well nowadays in comparison to other titles released at the time. But yeah, I have not forgotten how hard those later mine cart levels were. Was really cool hearing the music again too.
Really enjoy your critiques!!! Keep them coming.
Those opening 2 minutes were so incredibly well done.
Enjoyed the video, I never played this game growing up, asides from the Gameboy version, but have really enjoyed it since adding it to my Super Nintendo games collection. this game is an integral part of the library of power-titles the Super Nintendo had, it was titles like this that gave the system such a well-rounded library of games. Also nice to see someone using 720p60 for retro game videos, looks great!
Qjimbo Yep! My Brawl video actually also had a few little snippets of 60fps, since TH-cam introduced the feature while I was working on it. But this is the first video where I encoded all my footage for it, and I agree, it's fantastic. Really makes me wish I'd been encoding at 60 all along.
The thing about Miyamoto is even funnier when you retweeted that blurb about Miyamoto being shocked when during DK64's development he pulled out a realistic looking gun.
As I hope to always state, 'Your videos are amazing!' In a way I could compare them to a good book or I guess audio book, you never want it to end! Although they seem to be few and far between that makes me appreciate them more, sucking up more of the detailed script, enjoying the thoughtful look at the games. DKC was a game I never really played, having been born a few years after its release but I thoroughly enjoyed DKC2 when I got the port for my GBA SP. During this video I realized a few things; that the HUD wasn't riddled with common things and that the levels had their own flair that no other game could compare to. This game definitely stands the tests of time and probably inspired may game developpers who are relevant nowadays. Until the next one! Cheers! :)
PokeSoxx Yeah, it has been quite the hiatus, but don't worry, they shouldn't be QUITE so few and far between from here on! I'd like to discuss the GBA ports at some point too, but we'll see where things go from here.
I completed this game on the Gameboy Advance. While a bit different, I can relate to a lot of the stuff GeekCritique says.
By far one of my favorite series on YT
Wow, this brings back a whole lot of good memories.
It's funny when you said: "Instead of powerups or hitpoints Nintendo created distinct characters". Because that is just what I feel has happened with the DKC-returns games: The characters were downgraded to being nothing more than extra hitpoints and powerups. This is one of the many problems I had with the DKC-returns games.
I mean it’s kinda the appeal. The characters only being able to take a single hit made sense in context, because why wouldn’t they? They just ran headfirst into a giant crocodile, bird, or beaver monster thing. The characters have distinct personalities and different characters, and give distinct gameplay bonuses as well. It’s not like they’re just there for no reason, it’s just a different system than your typical platformer might have.
So true about being a fast and rhythmic game! I've played so many times I love just blasting through the levels. Feels great.
I mean, don't exactly agree with your comment on Myst, but putting that aside this is a fantastic video. Keep up the good work - I'll need something new to watch when I finish catching up.
Fantastic video that sums up much of what made the original game so great along with its problems. Will you make a video for DKC2?
W.A.C. Considering I played through the whole game in the past two days, didn't bother to record it, and I still want to play through it again, i'd say that sounds like a good idea. :D
I know this video is old, but I gotta say I love everything about 13:40 to 13:56. The insults, the credits joke, everything. I was just waiting to hear you didn't actually mean any of it lol
Heheh, thank you! And hey, no worries about it being old. I try to aim most of my videos to be kind of ageless. Even three years on, I don't think there's anything in this video that doesn't still apply.
Nice job matching up the graphics with the remix DKC/Arcade Donkey Kong medley.
You made so many great points!
I loved the animal token bonus levels! I really missed them in the second and third entry!
15:35......................Was Donkey Kong getting JIGGY with Candy Kong?
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Well, knowing the combined success of Nintendo and Rare, maybe that could have been a hint at Project Dream, later renamed into Banjo-Kazooie. You never know.
Your videos are amazing I'm subscribing.
Thank you for making me realize how much I miss this game.
My parents and aunts came together to get me the DKC/Mario All Stars SNES bundle. I was playing these games before I could even read. It took me years to find the guts to git gud and finally beat K Rool. It was my first triumph in a game. The Gangplank Galleon theme still invokes a heroic spirit in me to this day. This game along with its sequels inspired me to be a true gamer. More than even Mario, Metroid, Mega Man, Sonic had yet done. I hold the DKC trilogy in the fondest place in my heart as far as games go. Next to Ocarina of Time and Majora’s Mask.
I just finished up my second DKC playthrough of the year, and I never realized there were so many cavern levels until watching this video.
I've watched this vid like 5 times already. Haha!! Great job man!!!
samusaran311 That's about 1/4 as many times as I've watched it! :P Glad you're enjoying it!
This game was released the same day as I was born, and ever since I learned how to use a controller I've played this game. I still do, and I still love it.
That music from the underwater levels always takes me back
Aquatic Ambience
15:02 I take great umbrage with this line. Myst is a quality game that is far more than just the pretty picture collection it's often stereotyped as. It's a quality puzzle game with unparalleled atmosphere, and helped lay the ground work for an incredible universe of games. There's a reason the game gets ported 50 billion times per year. It holds up surprisingly well.
Hell I'm not even nostalgic for it. I only first played it about two years ago.
The day I decide that I want to play through the Myst games is the same day I watch a video about Donkey Kong that randomly mentions how forgotten Myst is. I guess it's fate.
Oh, and subscribed!
There are many game reviewers who are easily forgotten. You sir are NOT one of them. Excellent work.
I just played this game for the first time on the snes classic (well kind of, I tried the 3DS VC port for a bit), and I had a blast. It definitely holds up.
Great video man!
Great critique! You really should make one about the sequel :p
I know I'm late, but this is still a phenomenal retrospective. I really need to get into the DK series.
one of the first games i'd deliberately turn the game on just to listen to the music. Funky Kong's Ride especially. DKC's music...all 3 of them really...is insanely fantastic
Great video bud. Loved this game
this was so fascinating because I've always sprinted though Mario levels as fast as possible and take my time through DK levels very deliberately
15:30 If DK's Cabin is rockin, don't go knockin, his coconut gun can fire in spurts.
I still have the Donkey Kong Country promotion video with Daniel Kayser on VHS, hilarious. _Im fuck old._
I was so stoked for DKC, and when it was released, it revealed it self as one of THE best games ever created. A game worthy of a Diamond Award, because gold and platinum was yesterday.
RARE games alone were System seller back in the days. Nintendo let them go, and M$hit destroyed them absolute and utterly.
Huge props to crediting all three musicians.
I am SOOO GLAD that you talked about the cave/mineshaft levels. But a/an correction-
There are 20!? Underground levels!👺👿bullshiz...
I appreciate your views and opinions. Well done. I don't fully agree with everything but I'm enjoying these and look forward to watching all of this series. Donkey Kong and Crash Bandicoot were my childhood games prior to being a teen for the most part. There were others but they were the main ones
Nice video as always man
Anyone get the VHS ad in the mail for DKC?
With the SUPER-SECRET teaser for Killer Instinct after the end credits!
I watched it more times then I care to admit, if I remember correctly, it was Fulgore doing an ultimate combo on the the Raptor? They really got me excited about DKC and KI!
I had the one for banjo kazooie.