I use jumbo grips to help fix my hook problem. Hands are less active which for me is a good thing. I notice a little less spin on my mid to short irons but a good compromise for me. Plus they just feel better in my hands.
I used to use a Golf Pride regular grip but with my longer fingers I found it difficult to properly grip the glub. 5 years ago I switched to a mid-sized Golf Pride grip and I find it much easier to grip the club now. True story, I was in my local Golf Shop and was near the Tech area where they replace grips etc. I overheard the Head Tech guy telling his customer that he would probably never be able to hit a draw with the grips he wanted to buy. I didnt see the customers hands but he must have had smaller ones. So your theory is true and it makes sense. Thanks for the great inside knowledge.
You’re exactly right. I am sure there are several golfers who like the feel of the fatter grip and this may relax them and actually help them release the club. This may be especially true for golfers with poor grip strength or arthritis.
I use jumbo grips because I have large hands and found that a regular grip rotated in my hands at impact causing an open face. I got jumbo grips to help fill the gap and I use less grip pressure...I draw the ball now
Interesting. For 3 years I was using Golf Pride CP2 wrap oversize grips and changed this year to the MCC +4 grey midsize grips. I find the feel and the club face contact much better.
Obviously in golf we see golfers using their own swing and then finding clubs, balls etc that fit their motion and help them play better. As a teacher I have always pushed my students to swing more efficiently. This usually starts with helping my students understand how to properly hinge and release the club efficiently.
Yes sir! Learned to place the left hand as you describe as per Ben Hogan. I have just received a set of "Roddio" forged irons from Japan with "Elite" grips, marked "1.8" . When I put them in my hands I knew they were smaller than standard but feel good in my hands. My research revealed indeed the 1.8 is undersize or ladies, their "2.3" is standard. I can't wait to hit these on the range and see the results, I have smaller hands and have played standard size grips all my life.
I had the opposite problem, my hands were too big for standard grips, I changed into large and vastly improved my shot making. I actually have a nice draw on my drives now, I always had a slice before.
Yes. I started inventing a grip size chart that measured both the length of the fingers but also the breadth of the muscle pad and found extreme hand sizes in both directions. Golfers with extremely long fingers and thin muscle vs short fingers with puffy or fat muscle pad. Both golfers need the right size grip for them and this is usually hard to get.
I’ve changed my grips from standard to the jumbo grips. Standard grips I use on my irons 9 to 6 , jumbo grips on driver fairway woods and most wedges, except lob wedge I use standard grip to get out of the sand . Standard grips make me swing the club very fast and wristy , that helps me on my Iron shots. Jumbo helps me more for pure straight , accurate shots. I change my grips myself so I can experiment myself. Also try experimenting with 6 to 20 OZ weights on the end of your clubs . The pros do it so can we . Good luck
I’m more of a handsy player and keep hitting weak fades with jumbo size grips. I use a medium/large cadet glove. Think I should move down to standard grips?
I use midsize grips on my irons and driver and it really helped with my hooks and left pull. I don't use midsize on my hybrids or fairway woods, as I don't hook those much, go figure.
My pinky finger is very short relative to the rest of the hand ... it is so short that when the hand open flat, the pinky can only reach up to 3/4 of the 2nd joint of the ring finger. My other fingers are relatively in good proportion with the length of the palm about 25cm long overall. I play a standard size grip. So I am not sure if my tiny sized pinky finger is important enough for me to go and do all custom grips?
M/L glove with 5 handicap. I love the undersized grips with a two-wrap build under the right hand on all my longer clubs. It allows me to really set the left wrist for maximum power. 7-LW I like the MCC Plus4 standard because it has a larger lower right hand. Easier to drag the handle with the shorter clubs for ball flight control. People should experiment with the old school of "tape wraps" with a standard grip. Tape build-ups and build-ups for only the lower hand make for a true custom fit.
Agreed 47 arthritis bad ....from years of manual labor ....and I use midsize grips and I play a cut most shots not a slice a 5 to 10 yard cut ...not curl ....and I haven't ever had the larger grip cause me to slice ...
The goal of instruction is to educate students in way that they can develop or improve. Everyone knows that what works for one person probably doesn’t help the next. I would applaud you for finding something that works for you. Please understand that my attempt is for students to understand there are best practices and if you want to develop your swing over a lifetime it is best to work in a direction that has proven success.
You probably have a good to adequate golf swing. I guarantee you that many poor swings are created because golfers don’t know how easy it is to release the club with a proper grip and grips size. When they can’t, we often see poor to awful swings develop using inefficient swing mechanics in an effort to square the open clubface.
I wear 3xl glove and thought XL jumbomax grips would be right for me. Wrong. Went to midsize +4 and took 10 strokes off my handicap. No more weak blocks and push fades.
Would jumbo grips help me from hooking the ball so much? I have spent 10 years fixing a slice/fade swing. Now my miss is a hook/pull. I am having a hard time taking a weaker grip because of how it feels. Showing 3 knuckles currently on lead hand. Thanks.
Hi Trevor, I am using Skillest app for online training. If you download the app and send me a video i will give you some feedback as to why you are hooking. I doubt it is the grip, but we will see. You’ll have to select me as a coach and then I will send you a voucher for the free analysis. Cheers, Don
Here’s all you need to know about grip size and hand size. Try different sizes and use what works best for you. There is no getting around the trying out part.
People go to the store to buy clothes have the option to buy clothes that fit them perfectly, baggy, or tight. Mostly no consequence, they create the look they prefer. However, if you tried this approach with shoes you may regret your improper sizing. Blisters, twisted ankles, sore feet… The same is true here with grips in my opinion. Choose what you want however understand the science and the consequences.
You got this completely wrong. Bigger grip requires less tension to prevent slippage from higher club speed swingers. Small grips cause slippage or force you to have to use interlock gripping… which in fact prevent you from swinging with max power. As for making up a negative of a big grip causing slices… if you switch to a bigger grip you have to readjust your grip position a little stronger. This technique is working into the benefit of a bigger grip quieting those who flip open/close in their swing. Now slices and hooks are eliminated from miss hits. A bigger grip allowed me to not have to rely on interlock for anti-slip, and now I can baseball grip for way more power than an interlock would allow. It allows me to have both a strong lead hand, and a neutral trail hand. All together, my wrist do absolutely zero twisting turning throughout the entire swing… keeping the face square 100% of the time. I driving 370’s with a 5° driver… and I’m never looking back. Mark my words, the future for distance and accuracy is a jumbo grip gripped with a strong lead hand and neutral trail hand position with all fingers wrapped on (baseball grip with no space between hands and thumbs wrapped around sides)
Exactly, and many will never experience this because their swing may promote an improper release. A good grip requires good positioning of the arms and club on the backswing and good sequencing of your motion. Often golfers set themselves in such poor positions that keep them from feeling or executing a proper release of the clubhead.
When you slid your hand down shaft to thinner part of grip, you had a much stronger grip. Much stronger. Midsize grips work if you know how to hold the club. Quit showing nonsense….
You’re entitled to your view. I would never say there are absolutes in golf. However, there is a best size grip for everyone anatomically - there hasn’t been enough research in this area to make a clear determination. Most club makers are happy to leave the golfer to choose what they prefer usually based on their preference instead of letting them know the science. I went to Golf Pride 25 years ago with this concept and they understood and liked it but let me know that tooling several more molds to accommodate all of the potential grip sizes would be very costly. Someone will do it someday soon I predict. Clothes makers size their clothes appropriately, but some prefer them baggy, and some prefer them tight…
Fat grips can be a cause of your slice, not an excuse for one. You may have different issues in your swing that need addressed. Perhaps you cross the line at the top of your swing or you hood the club going back?
ALL the best players in the world before Vardon had THICK grips, not skinny ones. The St Andrews grip was used by the greats of the game. Look at the old photographs and you'll see the grip was essentially the same as the natural one used by baseball players ie..a grip where the left thumb is not on TOP of the shaft, but wrapped around the grip naturally. But because Vardon was winning, everyone started mimicking him, whether it was the right for them or not.
I’ve seen lots of hickory shafted clubs and I’ve never notices a “THICK” one. There may have been some experimenting but the standard was as small as ladies grips of today. I’m not saying that everyone should be using smaller grips, I’m saying there are a lot of people with short fingers and muscular pads that can play better with the smaller option. Also, I agree many players used a “baseball style” or what you call a natural grip. I personally think that the grip evolved into the Vardon grip because the clubhead sweet spot is not in line with the center of the stick as it is in baseball. A baseball bat has no clubhead causing rotation around the axis.
I've seen and played with hundreds of hickory shafted clubs over the last 50 years and never seen anything but thin leather wrap over the thin wooden shaft.@@SwingFactoryGolf
This is possible for golfers with strong hands, however my experience has shown me that most cannot properly position the ulnar bone on top of the grip unless the grip is small enough to fit and they can close their fingers around the club.
I use jumbo grips to help fix my hook problem. Hands are less active which for me is a good thing. I notice a little less spin on my mid to short irons but a good compromise for me. Plus they just feel better in my hands.
me too....
I used to use a Golf Pride regular grip but with my longer fingers I found it difficult to properly grip the glub. 5 years ago I switched to a mid-sized Golf Pride grip and I find it much easier to grip the club now. True story, I was in my local Golf Shop and was near the Tech area where they replace grips etc. I overheard the Head Tech guy telling his customer that he would probably never be able to hit a draw with the grips he wanted to buy. I didnt see the customers hands but he must have had smaller ones. So your theory is true and it makes sense. Thanks for the great inside knowledge.
To each his own but when I put on the JumboMax Large Ultra Light…my control got better and at 70 years old my hands don’t hurt anymore
You’re exactly right. I am sure there are several golfers who like the feel of the fatter grip and this may relax them and actually help them release the club. This may be especially true for golfers with poor grip strength or arthritis.
I use jumbo grips because I have large hands and found that a regular grip rotated in my hands at impact causing an open face. I got jumbo grips to help fill the gap and I use less grip pressure...I draw the ball now
Interesting. For 3 years I was using Golf Pride CP2 wrap oversize grips and changed this year to the MCC +4 grey midsize grips. I find the feel and the club face contact much better.
Obviously in golf we see golfers using their own swing and then finding clubs, balls etc that fit their motion and help them play better. As a teacher I have always pushed my students to swing more efficiently. This usually starts with helping my students understand how to properly hinge and release the club efficiently.
Yes sir! Learned to place the left hand as you describe as per Ben Hogan. I have just received a set of "Roddio" forged irons from Japan with "Elite" grips, marked "1.8" . When I put them in my hands I knew they were smaller than standard but feel good in my hands. My research revealed indeed the 1.8 is undersize or ladies, their "2.3" is standard. I can't wait to hit these on the range and see the results, I have smaller hands and have played standard size grips all my life.
I had the opposite problem, my hands were too big for standard grips, I changed into large and vastly improved my shot making. I actually have a nice draw on my drives now, I always had a slice before.
Yes. I started inventing a grip size chart that measured both the length of the fingers but also the breadth of the muscle pad and found extreme hand sizes in both directions. Golfers with extremely long fingers and thin muscle vs short fingers with puffy or fat muscle pad. Both golfers need the right size grip for them and this is usually hard to get.
I’ve changed my grips from standard to the jumbo grips. Standard grips I use on my irons 9 to 6 , jumbo grips on driver fairway woods and most wedges, except lob wedge I use standard grip to get out of the sand . Standard grips make me swing the club very fast and wristy , that helps me on my Iron shots. Jumbo helps me more for pure straight , accurate shots. I change my grips myself so I can experiment myself. Also try experimenting with 6 to 20 OZ weights on the end of your clubs . The pros do it so can we . Good luck
I’m more of a handsy player and keep hitting weak fades with jumbo size grips. I use a medium/large cadet glove. Think I should move down to standard grips?
I use midsize grips on my irons and driver and it really helped with my hooks and left pull. I don't use midsize on my hybrids or fairway woods, as I don't hook those much, go figure.
My pinky finger is very short relative to the rest of the hand ... it is so short that when the hand open flat, the pinky can only reach up to 3/4 of the 2nd joint of the ring finger. My other fingers are relatively in good proportion with the length of the palm about 25cm long overall. I play a standard size grip. So I am not sure if my tiny sized pinky finger is important enough for me to go and do all custom grips?
M/L glove with 5 handicap. I love the undersized grips with a two-wrap build under the right hand on all my longer clubs. It allows me to really set the left wrist for maximum power. 7-LW I like the MCC Plus4 standard because it has a larger lower right hand. Easier to drag the handle with the shorter clubs for ball flight control. People should experiment with the old school of "tape wraps" with a standard grip. Tape build-ups and build-ups for only the lower hand make for a true custom fit.
No they dont i use jumbo grips on all of my clubs due to hand damage and i hit the ball straight
Agreed, I’m 70, with BAD ARTHRITIS. The Oversize is a huge help.
Agreed 47 arthritis bad ....from years of manual labor ....and I use midsize grips and I play a cut most shots not a slice a 5 to 10 yard cut ...not curl ....and I haven't ever had the larger grip cause me to slice ...
Same here. Switching to jumbo because of bad arthritis the last few years. Your body sorts out the grip if you let it.
The goal of instruction is to educate students in way that they can develop or improve. Everyone knows that what works for one person probably doesn’t help the next. I would applaud you for finding something that works for you. Please understand that my attempt is for students to understand there are best practices and if you want to develop your swing over a lifetime it is best to work in a direction that has proven success.
You probably have a good to adequate golf swing. I guarantee you that many poor swings are created because golfers don’t know how easy it is to release the club with a proper grip and grips size. When they can’t, we often see poor to awful swings develop using inefficient swing mechanics in an effort to square the open clubface.
I wear 3xl glove and thought XL jumbomax grips would be right for me. Wrong. Went to midsize +4 and took 10 strokes off my handicap. No more weak blocks and push fades.
Would jumbo grips help me from hooking the ball so much? I have spent 10 years fixing a slice/fade swing. Now my miss is a hook/pull. I am having a hard time taking a weaker grip because of how it feels. Showing 3 knuckles currently on lead hand.
Thanks.
Hi Trevor, I am using Skillest app for online training. If you download the app and send me a video i will give you some feedback as to why you are hooking. I doubt it is the grip, but we will see. You’ll have to select me as a coach and then I will send you a voucher for the free analysis. Cheers, Don
Here’s all you need to know about grip size and hand size.
Try different sizes and use what works best for you. There is no getting around the trying out part.
People go to the store to buy clothes have the option to buy clothes that fit them perfectly, baggy, or tight. Mostly no consequence, they create the look they prefer. However, if you tried this approach with shoes you may regret your improper sizing. Blisters, twisted ankles, sore feet… The same is true here with grips in my opinion. Choose what you want however understand the science and the consequences.
Jumbo max ultra lite -make the switch
Amen to that…best move I made when finding a grip
And yes the grip does-changed from midsize to standard and what a difference-dead straight
Happy this video helped you! Take Care, Don
Isn’t your left hand suppose to be flat on impact ? Not cup
You got this completely wrong. Bigger grip requires less tension to prevent slippage from higher club speed swingers. Small grips cause slippage or force you to have to use interlock gripping… which in fact prevent you from swinging with max power.
As for making up a negative of a big grip causing slices… if you switch to a bigger grip you have to readjust your grip position a little stronger. This technique is working into the benefit of a bigger grip quieting those who flip open/close in their swing. Now slices and hooks are eliminated from miss hits. A bigger grip allowed me to not have to rely on interlock for anti-slip, and now I can baseball grip for way more power than an interlock would allow. It allows me to have both a strong lead hand, and a neutral trail hand. All together, my wrist do absolutely zero twisting turning throughout the entire swing… keeping the face square 100% of the time. I driving 370’s with a 5° driver… and I’m never looking back. Mark my words, the future for distance and accuracy is a jumbo grip gripped with a strong lead hand and neutral trail hand position with all fingers wrapped on (baseball grip with no space between hands and thumbs wrapped around sides)
unfortunately many people dont release the club head properly.
Exactly, and many will never experience this because their swing may promote an improper release. A good grip requires good positioning of the arms and club on the backswing and good sequencing of your motion. Often golfers set themselves in such poor positions that keep them from feeling or executing a proper release of the clubhead.
When you slid your hand down shaft to thinner part of grip, you had a much stronger grip. Much stronger. Midsize grips work if you know how to hold the club. Quit showing nonsense….
I call bs. I use jumbo golf pride grips. I have more control and the ball goes straight.
You’re entitled to your view. I would never say there are absolutes in golf. However, there is a best size grip for everyone anatomically - there hasn’t been enough research in this area to make a clear determination. Most club makers are happy to leave the golfer to choose what they prefer usually based on their preference instead of letting them know the science. I went to Golf Pride 25 years ago with this concept and they understood and liked it but let me know that tooling several more molds to accommodate all of the potential grip sizes would be very costly. Someone will do it someday soon I predict. Clothes makers size their clothes appropriately, but some prefer them baggy, and some prefer them tight…
I snap hook with jumbo grips so thats not an excuse
Fat grips can be a cause of your slice, not an excuse for one. You may have different issues in your swing that need addressed. Perhaps you cross the line at the top of your swing or you hood the club going back?
ALL the best players in the world before Vardon had THICK grips, not skinny ones. The St Andrews grip was used by the greats of the game. Look at the old photographs and you'll see the grip was essentially the same as the natural one used by baseball players ie..a grip where the left thumb is not on
TOP of the shaft, but wrapped around the grip naturally. But because Vardon was winning, everyone started mimicking him, whether it was the right for them or not.
I’ve seen lots of hickory shafted clubs and I’ve never notices a “THICK” one. There may have been some experimenting but the standard was as small as ladies grips of today. I’m not saying that everyone should be using smaller grips, I’m saying there are a lot of people with short fingers and muscular pads that can play better with the smaller option. Also, I agree many players used a “baseball style” or what you call a natural grip. I personally think that the grip evolved into the Vardon grip because the clubhead sweet spot is not in line with the center of the stick as it is in baseball. A baseball bat has no clubhead causing rotation around the axis.
I've seen and played with hundreds of hickory shafted clubs over the last 50 years and never seen anything but thin leather wrap over the thin wooden shaft.@@SwingFactoryGolf
You turn your hand over to the stronger side you could have done it with the big grip
Exactly
This is possible for golfers with strong hands, however my experience has shown me that most cannot properly position the ulnar bone on top of the grip unless the grip is small enough to fit and they can close their fingers around the club.
@@SwingFactoryGolf I suggest you check out Shawn Clement with his female protege and black brother they crush it with a motorcycle grip