Tripping Every Breaker in Italy
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By: Mehdi Sadaghdar - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
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Hotel receptionists question him, outlets hate him, breaker boxes fear him. This man is insane
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@@NovianLeVanMusic Border control officers shun him.
Next trip assignment - short-circuit loop impedance measurement for the main hookup to the building.
@@limaoscarjuliet outstanding
Yes
"Hello, I have tripped the breaker for my room"
"What were you trying to do?"
"Trip the breaker for my room"
Reminds me of the time I was in Dubai and tripped my breakers. They asked what happened, and I told em "apparently this universal power strip is not so universal as they claim"
This man is legit a genius, he makes a short video and then gets to write off the entire vacation as a business expense
+sponsorship
Hehe, literally "Short"
Hes an electrical engineer so he knows what he is doing
@@Tim_3100 Hence "business expense"... We all know he's an electrical engineer.
@@Tim_3100 really? I thought he was a zookeeper.
"They set the city on fire, before i could get the chance to do it myself!"
-Mehdi Sadaghdar
AS Roma ultras do it all the time 😭😭
Dude's a menace
when did he say that
@@aaryasuparey_12:03
🤣
The kind of vacation adventure only electricians will enjoy: figure out the electrical installation of other countries 😂
Und ich dachte ich wäre der einzige der in den Urlaub fährt und als Elektriker fasziniert von den Elektroinstallationen anderer Länder ist 😂
Electrical Engineer*
Mehdi would not enjoy being called an "electrician"
@@dxstrix1983 löst meistens Kopfschütteln aus bei mir^^ also die kunst der Installation in anderen ländern
@@the_real_editor I don't think he would mind if you check how much Mehdi gets bullied on Reddit.
3:36 Wieso ist denn Schwarz der Neutralleiter??
Ich dachte in der EU wäre Blau=Neutralleiter, Braun/Schwarz=Außenleiter?
He takes the word "Trip" to a whole other level
LMAO :D
can't have a trip to italy without also tripping the breakers there now can we
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i was thinking about drugs lol
It’s ‘nother’, not ‘other’. Weird but true.
Medhi's family: "Let's enjoy the scenery of Italy!"
Medhi: "WhErE Is ThE FuSe BoX?"
Forbidden fruit everywhere 🎇
As an Italian, is really pleasant to know I'll probably not die from touching things I'm supposed to don't touch
as a Scottish electronics engineer living in italy, I'd advise you not to test it. anything that was built or comercially renovated after about 2000 should be okay, anything before that is pot luck as to whether they've even got a ground circuit, or even use breakers instead of fuses.
In North America, as I'm sure you all know black is the hot wire. So at 3:38, I thought "Black is neutral. Isn't black supposed L2 in 230V/400V three-phase? Because in Europe, blue is neutral.
@@coastersaga I don't know for the italian but in france it is . maybe electrician was colorblind
@@sebastienolivier1632 That would be a violation of standards, regardless of whether they were colourblind or not
@@coastersaga according to the regulations black, brown, grey, red is for Live and blue is for Neutral
Imagine he just goes to each and every country and judges their power breaker and outlet
You're late to the party it seems
we want this playlist
Perfect way to write vacation off as a business expense!
Well its kinda what hes doing as a series. Hopefully germany comes soon, would like to see it.
Can't wait for the "countries fuses and outlets" tier list
Let’s make Mehdi the best International Electrical Inspector. 😎
..and welcome to Europe 😉
okay, but he is not allowed to touch anything :D
Love your channel! It’s always fun seeing other TH-camrs in the comments! @marsgizmo
Europe is the best
@marsgizmo -
Mehdi the best International Electrical _BreakerPopper_
hello marsgizmo
Hi there, italian certified electrician here!
Ground fault protection is not only mandatory everywhere, not only it has to protect the whole apartment, it went from best practice to mandatory to split the two circuits(lights and outlets) for extra protection and safety!
(Every public accessible facility, be it hospital, hotel or whatever, has to check the time it takes to break the circuit just in case the GFP is starting to kick the bucket and replace the "slow" ones to keep staying open)
Esatto!!! 👍
I love the fact that the whole family is enjoying the beautiful views and the trip and Mehdi just sticks probes into sockets and pops the breakers. I love this channel
Сигма момент респект
If I ever see a news headline saying "A massive black out had taken place in Italy", I would immediately guess the answer of who caused it in the first place without even having a second thought
Photonic induction :)
@@rollymaster16 I want flaaaaaams! Where's my hammer?
we had a serious one in 2003..now I finally know why
I'm italian, i can tell you that we have a lot of black outs because in Summer the Heat Is so much that the distributed electicity units melts
@@tenna1201 yes but in 2003 was massive! involved the whole country and it lasted sooo long
ElectroBOOM is the only guy that I genuinely believe would go “sightseeing” oversees just to look at some electrical plugins.
There's no way he didn't ask permission from the hotel, X-D and just unscrew thing and try to trip the protection.
He asked permission for sure.
God bless.
Sometimes it’s better to ask for forgiveness than permission because otherwise the hotel be wondering what the heck you were doing. And no no no I do not know anybody else who would go overseas and travel just to see outlets I would I would totally not not not not not do that.
There was another uk electricians channel that when he traveled look at the electrics can’t think of the name right now
The hotel where the GFCI tripping didn't also shut off the lights is an Italian thing. Prior to only a few decades ago it was common in Italy for buildings to source the electricity for their lighting fixtures and sockets from different providers, and consequently on buildings that were electrified in that era the sockets and lights are on completely separate circuits.
It's common in Poland too, even in buildings from 70s and before, and it's a standard still.
What is the advantage of using two providers? Since lighting is a lot less power, why not just get that from the same provider as the sockets? Is it incase one fails, so you can still have some power? Doesn't this mean two grids and more pylons?
@@lambertovitali3152 They used to be taxed differently and even ran at different voltages. Back when they were fully separate providers lighting ran at 127 volts.
@@asteroidrules Excellent! So you just run everything off the lower tax one.
Honestly now i just wonder why we ever thought putting the lights on the same circuit as everything else was a good idea.
You know, tripping hazards in the dark when the hair dryer breaks and all that.
I wonder if there's any disadvantages to putting the lights on a separate circuit, other than cost of additional materials... Because honestly, i'd kind of want that to be standard.
Italian sockets have two side holes 10A (small) and 16A (large) then there are sockets like those in the video which are called 10/16A sockets with double holes, the shuko plug (CEE 7) cannot be inserted in either in the 10A socket nor in the 16A and not even in the 10/16A because the center distance is different, only by forcing it a lot you can insert it but you shouldn't because the earth is not connected, the Italian legislation requires at least a differential general switch and separate switch for sockets and light (16A for sockets and 10A for lights) protected against short circuit and overload, 0.01A RCDs are sometimes installed in bathrooms for greater protection, these are the minimum required by law but usually many more switches are installed in new plants, the colors of the cables are blue: neutral, yellow green: earth, all the other colors: live, specifically black, brown and gray are used for the three live or fixed live, all the others for the controlled live (lights , relay etc)
Also if you force the shuko you can damage it. I've seen lots of damaged shuko plugs cause of that. The socket can be damaged as well.
@@-EcchiGuy yes! What about if you shot with an m16 on the plug?
@@zonapa
You destroy it.
I’d love to imagine one of these days a receptionist recognizes him on check in and simply tells the maintenance guy to sit by the breakers all night just waiting till he trips them with his test.
You mean kik him out of the hotel?
You mean kill him if an actual accident happens 😂
@@tonymouannes unless mehdi bribes the technician with high quality electrical equipment 😉
@@halzion “A Keysight scope for you, sir?”
Imagine the receptionist sitting next to the breaker like: I've been waiting for you
Imagine if Mehdi became a full on travel vlog that goes around internationally, popping every breaker on the grid
He will make a great IAEA inspector..
International AC Electricity Assessor
@Ailsa Ni it's mandatory, but only in last probably 7 years, then it was for another XY years mandatory only for bathroom and kitchen. Nobody tells you to update to most recent standard (if you are not rebuilding), so old houses can have even old ceramic fuses.
@@fidelcatsro6948 Probably makes more doing this from his youtube
Come on man,it’s mehdi,not Medhi
@@Imsolame-pf8xm done
Don't try this in India 😂😂.... Whole village breaker will pop open
As an electrical installation contractor myself these videos really did remind me about these basic but very important stuff, which he presents in a hilarious fashion.
Can't imagine if I'm the hotel manager and there's some random dude tripping every single outlet he could possibly find lol
Fun fact:
Here in Italy we call RCDs "salva vita" literally meaning "life saver"
già!
Was about to say the same, also it is possible to read it on the device
vero
Funny thing, in spanish "salvavidas" (salva vita in italian) means "lifebuoy". I think we are afraid of water more than electricity :D
Here in the philippines we have "salbabida" which means the same thing but is used in pools
I could watch a whole series of this random dude popping breakers around the world while on vacation.
true true 🤣🤣
Wut if he started this trend,
Popping breakers in hotel.
@@mj31382 That would be very concerning for hotel owners
@mj31382 that would be dangerous but hilarious
4:50 his wife is in bed and has to suffer the consequences of his shenanigans lol
That’s his daughter
11:21
the bell ring of judgement.
Why do I feel like I am about to be judged for every EXP I earned and every LV I gained?
The “doors” in the plugs are children protection, seems like they work fine :)
Those are pretty common in North America too, surprising that Mehdi was so perplexed by them.
Yes, and the safety doors are there or absent depending on manufacture date. New ones the door is mandatory, the old ones it was optional, so the old sockets do not have them, but replaced ones do have them. The difference between 5mA and 30mA is the 30mA is the whole house, so using 5mA would result in nuisance tripping. The UK has solved that by making it mandatory on new to have each breaker be a RCBO in itself, each circuit being individually protected with 30mA, so a trip on one does not trip out the entire house. They even have AFCI built into them along with RCD and overload detection, in the same width as a regular 1 module wide DIN breaker.
@@SeanBZA For example in Belgium a 300mA whole house is mandatory unless you have a bad earth resistance which would require a 30mA for the whole house.
For places that can have higher humidity (for example bathroom) a 30mA is mandatory for those circuits and depending how close sockets are to water taps it might even require a 10mA.
So in every house you'll find at least two GFCI unless you use a whole house 30mA but that can be very annoying.
About the safety doors in sockets : In more recent installations they are mandatory.
we have those in extension cords in germany as well. New ones are usually so stiff that you need a sledgehammer to get the plug in, so what i do first is open it, remove the whole child protection thing and be happy.
@@Sharpless2 I am not a fan of removing safety features. I have learned over the years that if you a buy a decent extension cord those safety doors work MUCH better.
All extension cords I use are homemade with plugs and cable from reputable brands. It'll cost you a bit more but they'll last forever and are much safer if assembled properly.
The worse part of cheap extension cords is the lack of decent cross-section.
In Italy we have 3 types of plugs: the 9:22 one (maximum 10 amps, called "small Italian socket"), the most common as 4:19 (maximum 16 amps, called "Italian socket") and the European standard socket at 15:17 (maximum 16 amps).
What you said at 15:22 is usually wrong, you cannot insert a European male plug into an Italian female socket (that socket was worn out or just plain broken) so you always get a ground connection.
In Italy we had 220VAC 50Hz (or 380VAC three-phase 50Hz) but now we have almost switched to the European standard 230VAC 50Hz (or 400VAC three-phase 50Hz). So somewhere in Italy you can still have 220V AC 50Hz (but I think you measured 222V AC at 1:45 just for the fluctuation of the power grid).
Also:
Every house or building in Italy has an RCD but we don't have a specific RCD just for the bathroom.
As you reported correctly, normal trains run at 3KV DC while high speed trains use 25KV AC 50Hz which is a common European standard.
I have never seen the outlet at 9.16.
By the way, nice video!
Also we use to have at least two breakers, one for lights and the other one for sockets. Modern houses tends to have a pair of breakers (light/socket) for every room so if there's a fault somewhere you could isolate that room (part of it) and waiting for the technician without worrying about food in freezer
La presa a 9:16 è una presa telefonica anni 70 di proprietà della bTcino.
Molto raro trovarla, si vede ancora in qualche vecchia scuola!
The socket at 9:16 is a 1970s telephone socket owned by bTcino.
Very rare to find, it is still seen in some old school!
@@MyNotSoHumbleOpinion mai capito il perché di quella presa quando c'era la classica tripolare... assomiglia alla magic bticino, anche di quella non ho mai capito lo scopo
La presa al minuto 9.16 non è una presa telefonica ma una presa “magic” (ormai obsoleta ma impedisce di invertire fase e neutro)
The 9.16 outlet it’s not a telephone socket it’s a “magic” outlet (obsolete nowadays but it prevent you from inverting live and neutral)
I thought 230V was a compromise between the 220V used in mainland Europe and the 240V used in UK/Ireland. 220 volts is still standard because it is within tolerance.
The one at 9:14 is an old proprietary telephone socket from producer BTicino (mod. 2021), it was used in the '80s for sure, maybe even the decades before. I think they still produce the plugs, but not the sockets.
Cheers
This is more worth watching than sleeping
15:22 actually that plug ("german" schuko) normally does not fit in that socket! That socket is either broken by somebody doing what you did previously (and it takes a LOT of force to do that the first time, the prongs are closer together and they're way thicker than the hole normally), or that socket is not up to standard.
Glad you enjoyed your time here! I'm happy to know that at some point I was less than 20km from you, lol.
Here in the Netherlands you can plug that exact same "German" schuko plug into any ungrounded outlet. No extra force required.
what was the plug at 9 something for?
@@stapuft The unknown socket is called Magic Plug! Is a very old Heavy Duty (up to 20A) socket!
@@PaoloPaterna very cool, thank you!i just looked them up, -they look like they might be some sort of dual-phase type plug, im saying that because i noticed it has 4 pins, instead of 2 or 3.- oh no they are polarized three phase plugs, thats pretty cool.
@@PaoloPaterna No, it's a telephone socket, also from the B-ticino brand. They were once used for room telephones.
I love Mehdi just casually wandering in the electrical rooms of hotels like they are in free access.🤣
"anything is free access if you can gain access for free!" - Le Crimno'Thiefo
@@kuva Was a big high wall there that tried to stop me/A sign was painted said: Private Property/But on the back side it didn't say nothing -Woodie Guthrie
soon hes gonna learn lockpicking to let himself into all the electrical rooms
@@derpsakry4464 kidnap LPL maybe?
wear a fluoro vest
"I don't want them to figure out about my behavior" only now did I die laughing
I hope he doesn't come to Brazil. He could burn the entire hotel here 😂🔥
Small explaination from an Italian SW engineer who grew up working with her father in cabling their whole home (he's a Electrical Engineer/architect):
the three holes outlet is called "Bipasso", the small one is for 10A while the bigger one for 16A, the hole in the center is the ground.
We also use the german "Shucko" plug (the round one) for heavier appliances (usually 16A appliances) that are sold worldwide (eg washing machine).
Ground fault protection applies to the whole circuit in the home (all plugs are covered) as the (larger) breakers have it integrated (they're literally called "Salvavita", literally "life savers").
the "doors" in the plugs are a safety standard introduces around 15-20 years ago, so older plugs don't have it.
The standard for modern circuits (at least the ones I saw my father design) is the following:
main breaker -> room light breakers & room outlet breakers
So, each room has two breakers, one for lights and one for outlets. Then, there's a main breaker for the whole house. They are all Salvavita (with GFP) - then we have smaller breakers (without GFP) for sub-sections (eg. left wall of the living room, right wall of the living room, kitchen appliances, kitchen usable outlets, etc)
Schuko = Schutz-Kontakt
=)
Here, Schuko is the standard in Germany. And the plugs in the Video are 'compatibility plugs' that have an additional hole for countries that use ground that way.
Yes, and please note that it's not easy to plug shuko into standard Italian plug. It will eventually plug causing some damage to the socket. Forceful insertion will make you clearly feel you're doing something wrong like trying to insert diesel fuel nozzle into hole for gasoline refueling
@@dwydd5729 Also I think the hole is for Poland and France.
@@AmstradExin The hole in the multi-country 7/7 plug is for groundin in French hermaphrodite sockets, which prevent reverse insertion but has no consistent standard as to which side is neutral. The metal rails on the side of the plug are for German-style sockets that (like the old Italian sockets) have nothing preventing people inserting plugs backward swapping live and neutral. In contrast, the national plugs in Switzerland and Denmark have well defined live and neutral positions with the grounding pin preventing reversal for grounded equipment. Ungrounded plugs are just 2 pins and are always reversible.
Norway is the same as Denmark, but some villages have 2 lives and no neutral to keep the power on if something shorts live to ground on the power distribution poles.
9:11 it's a phone plug by BTcino. In the 70s they tried to introduce a whole new type of plugs for electricity and phone called "Magic" providing extra safety. The project turned out to be a commercial failure, but some of these plugs can be found in hotels originally built in the 70s and 80s. That one in particular is a BTcino Living Classic 4521.
what an unconventional time stamp
@@dukkadukkah3155 didn't even realise this lmao
Also, if I'm not mistaken, you could use the same connector as a 12V source in some applications. At least, you could with the Magic series
I still have magic plugs in my house. We are slowly replacing them, tho, since adapters are hard to find and by now a lot of the ones we had broke up.
@@Shendue maybe with some counseling they will put themselves together again
Have you ever considered visiting Finland to test our electrics?
I love this guy. Given the choice between full vacation and no work and 7/8 vacation and 1/8 work, he chooses to vacate AND work! Shows he truly loves his job. Love you Mehdi!!
9:16, that is usually refereed as a "bticino Magic" plug standard, it's very old and doesn't get used anymore the only difference with normal plugs is that it can't be reverted and it sits flush with the wall we stopped using those when we adopted the shuko(the round plug with the extra earthing) standard from Germany
the outlets door are a MUST and required by standard the italian name is “gonne” (skirts)
as you noticed we have a “small plug” and a “big plug” the small plug only goes up to 10A 220v and the big plug goes up to 16A , the standard Italian contract goes up to 3KW single phase 220v
if you have more questions feel free to ask :)
You're wrong. That's a BTicino phone plug. Magic is similar but bigger.
@@danielec correct!
Pretty sure we didn't adopt shuko, we just use it for some appliances, but that's it. Most houses don't even have a single shuko plug, and even newer ones have just a few shuko plugs in bathrooms and kitchens
Only a little precisation: our standard now is 230V, not anymore 220V. @leonardo ferlito
@@TheoJouvin confirming the correct as being correct.
The "magic" plug has a "bump" in the middle.
this one is a BTI-2021 (no reference to the year 2021).
It is no longer being manufactured... pretty much the whole world has adopted the RJ-11 standard for telephones.
Having the external breaker box be located next to receptions head is such a genius idea. It's not an event that should happen often, and when it does, you want to know about it as quick as possible.
Between saving people's lives to stopping fires or starting evacuation before they grow large. Very simple and great idea.
Also you can help Medhi faster when he fucked up again ^^
The receptionist has to be a bit attentive and hear the distinct klick of the breaker flippin? As it seemed there is one for every room
@@Keneo1 tho this hotel didn't have it, there are sensors for some breakers that can be connected to a PC and can notify you if a breaker popped. :D they are expensive af tho.
@Vladimir Nicola Chersi you can also put the breaker at the reception desk
In Italy is really common to have 2 different types of gfi.
0.03A as general purpose for the entry home and 0.01A for the bathroom, pool pumps and jacuzzi.
Good job man 👏
E che per mettere una presa schuko in una spina da 10 A. bisogna forzarla non poco i reofori hanno il diametro di una spina da 16 A.
@@okhtf
England has one type of plug, Italy has about 5!
@@therealavolpe it's just 2 + 1: 10A and 16A, sometimes we use the German Schuko too
@@gabriele476
You have 4 types - 1) "Thick 3" with 3 thicker poles, 2) "Thin 3" with 3 thinner poles, 3) "Thin 2" with no earth, like a phone charger, and 4) the round German Shucko type with earth for electrical items like a coffee maker , so that's 4 types
@@therealavolpe as said it's just 2 and they go in the same socket, exception made for the Shucko but that's not an italian plug and we usually use adapter for it. If you count the variation without the ground connection then also England has plugs with and without ground (made of plastic).
Kind of funny. When I'm on vacation, I look at the landscapes and don't try to trip fuses. But everyone has their hobby
My daughter and I have been watching your channel for years. She started to become interested in electronics at a young age. She played a joke for me where a capacitor blows up when I press a button. You have inspired so many. Keep it up.
I wish her a good future
Would be hilarious if hotels start putting out new design guidelines to hide breakers and a warning poster for staff with Medhi's face on it.
6:53 who else was expecting an explosion at this point?
this makes me want to go to italy so bad, the clips of the scenery is so beautiful
I wanted to say something about the "Shuko" inside the "Italian" standard outlet. It shouldn't fit, but with a LOT of effort you can force it in (i've never seen anyone do it btw). To me this indicates that the outlet where you put it was probably forced by other people in the past, tourists i assume, and slowly it became much easier to plug it in.
Of course that's not intended and you will find that on an outlet that didn't receive abuse it won't easily fit.
If the hole in the plastic is large enough the contacts should bend the 0.8 mm. In Finland we had from the 30s to 50s grounded plugs with 4.8 mm pins and ungrouned with 4 mm and they grounded was intended to fit the ungrounded. Now this will not do good for the sockets in the long run.
I've seen it a lot of times, unfortunately.
But yes, usually it's hard to do
In my experience at least in hotels and restaurants most of the plugs are of the type that Mehdi showed first that has two different set of holes or they are elongated.
Good luck if they have the "magic" plug though like in the first room.
Not that there is a need, but I can confirm. I've never seen a Shuko plug fit into a standard outlet or even thought that it was possible at all.
it's "Schuko" (abbreviation from "Schutzkontakt") ;)
12:05 agh they set the city on fire before i get the chance to do it myself .....😵😵😵
10:59 Bahaha just burst out loud laughing with tears down my face in my dead silent office😂😅
1:35 Italian sockets according to the old standard. There is a 10A version 9:24
and a 16A version. The distance between the pins is different. But there are 16A sockets that also accept 10A plugs. The Protection Earth is the third pin in the middle.
2:34 C 16Amps for the sockets and C 10Amps for the light.
yellow-green is PE
blue is Neutral,
black, braun or gray are live, European standard.
7:19 RCCD with 0,03A = 30mA. CAMERA 5 means room 5.
15:17 modified Schuko socket type F, fits old Italian system too. The plug is for type E + F
the cut away at 14:04 before her score was shown indicates she scored a lot higher than Mehdi.
how can you be sure?
@@mushyomens6885 because joke moment
I love how this dude goes on vacation, trips a breaker, then gets 30% back from write offs
This man took dedication to the next level 👏👏
9:15 That's an outlet called Magic! Made in the 60s/70s by the BTcino
After way too much searching I managed to find something about that socket, on the "plugsocketmusem" website (which looks like it's from the early 2000s) and all it says about use is:
"This is an uncommon type of socket, which is only used in cases in which changing line and neutral is not tolerated (for example specialized hospital or laboratory equipment). Occasionally, polarized plugs are also used for local networks with a different voltage (
@@outsider344 That's because the site is only partially correct. Back in the day Italian sockets were not shielded, much like north american plugs, earth connections weren't common, and plug prongs didn't have any sleeving (again, like modern north american ones). Magic was developed to improve mainly on the shielding of the contacts and accidental contact due to partial insertion. The problem with them was that they are too complex of a design, and as soon as VIMAR invented "sicury", i.e. the "doors" on the neutral and live contact that prevent accidental insertion, and sleeving was introduced, Magic came out of favor and sicury became the standard known today as CEI 23-50.
sicuro? a me sembra di più uno slot per qualche antifurto, che ci starebbe anche perché in teoria le scatole del 230 dovrebbero essere separate da quelle dei circuiti di telefoni e antenne
@@sandropertini7497 è la versione magic per le prese telefoniche, la magic elettrica è più grande è ha una paratia di protezione
@@danielesatta3572 huh, mai vista la magic telefonica su modularità living e mi sembra un po' ridondante col doppino, però buono a sapersi
i like how mehdi cuts seamlessly from having a nice vacation with his family to “engaging my potentiometer”
3:38 There is something wrong with the colours of the wires, they are reversed. The Italian regulation says that the neutral conductor should be the blue one, probably a tecnician accidentally swapped the two conductors at some point upstream. It is't that unusual. There is more freedom about the colour of the live wire instead. It's usually black, brown, gray or red. With that said, i really hope you enjoyed your time in our country!
Likely that.
It doesn't really matter with sockets as all Italian and most european plugs are not polarized and as such most EU appliances won't care which way you plug them in.
The problem is with lights as a switch would work fine being installed either on the neutral or live wire but if it's on the neutral wire when you go to change the lightbulb the live wire will be "live" even with the switch in the "off" position.
Correct... In The Netherlands the live wire is always Black! No exceptions
@@FrankypankyV8 thats weired as
@@FrankypankyV8 Doesn't that make installation bit of a pain since you need to mark the wires to know which one is for what. If you just reserve two colors for neutral and ground other ones can be whatever lowering the chance that someone might wire something incorrectly.
It plain simply is wired wrong. Based on IEC should be black/gray/brown for live wire and always blue for neutral.
Your passion for electricity related stuff is inspiring.
1:48 It's probably the same in Italy but here in France the voltage the provider guarentee is 230V +/- 10% so a voltage between 207 and 253V.
4:38 This was unexpected 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Big boom
This is a Electroboom we're talking about you should always expect this
Tiny doors- *BOOM*
@@BulkedAmbulanceItalian:MAMA MIA WHO DESTROY THE BREAKER
@@yeetmanthe2nd529this channel is an r/unexpected user's wet dream
hi mehdi, I'm Italian and I can confirm that everything works like this here, usually in new buildings for about twenty years, breakers (lifesavers in Italian) have also been installed in the bathroom, but the reality is that there is always one or more protections, for example in my house the electric line of the lights and the one of the electric sockets are separated, if a socket is short-circuited the lights can be used, just to go and reset the "lifesaver" :) in addition there is another breaker upstream before the electricity meter (in case one of the two downstream does not work correctly), so in my case, if we consider the bathroom as a starting point, there are 3 breakers before the electricity meter.
yeah, agree my 2 floor - 100 sqm years of construction 1300, totally rebuild in 2018, have one lifesavers for each room, plus a thermal breaker each one on electric socket linem, one lifesaver for light each floor, and totally separeted electric line for air conditiong, induction and oven, and wood pellet auto stove too... and yes, everything ends in one single, huge electric box at the ground floor... quite a mess hide it, but safety first
Oltretutto negli impianti un po' più costosi ho visto mettere 2 differenziali 1 da 30mA per luci e prese e 1 da 10mA dedicato solo per la linea bagno
In my house (built in 2008~) I have a breaker for each room + externals and a lifesaver that shuts down the entire house.
But the real question is... *how the hell did he manage to plug in a Siemens plug into a regular one?!* I've never been able to do that... Lol
@@manupaz the schuko can be fitted in crappy plastic outlets with no problem at all, I’ve done it multiple times with class 2 devices
Note to Mehdi, we tend to use adapters for the schuko to keep the grounding connected
Io a casa ho luci e prese separati, ma se salta uno, pure l'altro salta... boh
Hello, I am from the Czech Republic. In the whole European Union we follow EN standards. The old standard says that the circuit breaker (FI or also RCD) must be for the whole circuit in a given apartment/building. The new standard states: When new buildings are built or renovations are made, the FI must be put on each socket circuit (16A) (a socket circuit can contain a maximum of 5 sockets). Each light circuit must contain separate FI and each light circuit may or may not contain only one socket (10A). FI in residential areas must be max 30mA. In non-residential production areas or on construction sites max 500mA. Typical building protection in the Czech Republic is designed FU50A at the building entrance at the measuring clocks is FU25A followed by (FI 20A 100mA)->(FU20A) then the socket circuits (FI 16A 30mA)->(FU16A) and finally the light circuits (FI 10A 30mA)->(FU10A). In some cases 24V SELV/PELV is used in the bathrooms. The FI for the sockets and for the lights are connected to (FI 20A 100mA)->(FU20A).
9:16 it’s an old outlet, here in italy we used to use those one a few decades ago, and it needed a specific plug…
People like Mehdi are the reason hotels have to leave their breaker room unlocked 😂
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The Pope wasn't happy when he tripped the power to the Vatican city. Well, we know where he's going. 😂
I’m headed to Italy with my family in a couple of months too. Glad to see Mehdi took the time to do so already so that I can visit the country armed with all the TRULY important information
If theres no power at your hotel you know why :p
Do you know that in Italy it's mandatory for hotels to check every two years the efficiency of grounding system? Only specially trained and authorized people can do it!
& ElectroBOOM, Mehdi can do it to.
@@howtomundane3109 Medhi, the rogue safety inspector
Love your content, never stop being you! Thank you for the constant enjoyment and entertainment.
9:15 that's an old telephone outlet. It looks very similar to the so called "Bticino Magic" plug. It was created in the 70s as a more safe and irreversable plug by the italian company Bticino, but it really never took off, in fact it only really lasted until the early 90s.
Or a modem outlet
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telephone_jack_and_plug#/media/File:BTicino_spina_e_presa_telefonica.jpg
Pretty similar to the old french standard. Quite logical since it's located next to a RJ45 or RJ11 plug
@@geoffroyarnaux2854 i seen a very very very similar one on a phone and a modem
So you put the mobile in the socket to charge it? Neat:P
It's more likely to be for a phone that stays at home with a little antena
Fun fact: as you can see at 7:21, in Italy we have Ground Fault Protection breakers commercialized as “Salvavita” which literally means “Lifesaver”
Anyways, props to you who managed to shove a Schuko 15:28 into that socket. All of my attempts always miserably failed
What were those riots about?
@@Fneeps_TF2_Experience looked like a fan gathering for AS Roma(football team)
@@luke6565 they're basically the same, right?
@@Fneeps_TF2_Experience yeah but police won't do shit cause "calcio".
(Soccer/football)
@@Fneeps_TF2_Experience As other people said, that's just the average AS Roma fan gathering.
And yeah, they're basically "allowed riots" in Rome (the only thing a particularly disrupting fan risks in these cases is DASPO which is a prohibition to participate to sporting events for a certain period of time) so they're really not much discouraged, if at all.
I don't really know how safe it is to walk by them (it's better to avoid them, that's for sure), but what I can say is that foreign teams' fans frequently leave the city in a far worse state than they do
10:50 in good instalations the outlets and the lights are on different GFCI , so if one of both pops, you are not sitting in the dark.
But all the outlets of a house have to have a gfci.
For good reasons often the fridge has its own.
RCD*
That's for the walking over Treadmill electric now.
4:05 🤣 Woah the break *pop* to ear hurts and fall! 🤣
"Camera" means "room" in Italian. It took me a bit to figure out why he tripped the breaker for camera 5.
Yeah I was like «are they that open about having cameras in each room?😂»
In Indian we call it Kamraa.. similar!
The word (photo) Camera, comes from the latin Camera Obscura that was the first device used to project and sometimes paint images (manually). It literally means dark room.
@@hussainbharmal5998 The modern English word would be chamber. And camera in Italian is via Latin camera which in turn comes from greek kamara. I googled the etymology :D
In Spanish the word for a room with a bed or bedroom is “recamera”
i love how his daughter and wife are on vacation but mehdi touring the world reverse engineering the electrical standards of other countries
I love how the breakers are by German company Schneider "Sicherungsautomaten". That's a German word for "automatic breaker"
Schneider is from France. I used to think it was from Germany too.
@@Cbych Oh god, I was surprised at this, but then I checked further and realized I confused them with en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schneider_Rundfunkwerke on top of being confused with their name being German and them being French... haha
Australia also uses European style breakers. German breakers
@@kovacevd Do you know another thing America doesn't use? Kettles.
We have Kettles@@asdfssdfghgdfy5940 its just not something everyone has
I am an Italian electrician, black is not the neutral but the phase, blue is the neutral.. The system was connected upstream in reverse.
For protection against shocks to the earth there must be an Automatic Differential Switch (7:19)
17:41 This makes no difference how the device plug is inserted, the earth is connected to the metal body of the device if the metal part is exposed to human contact, so however the voltage in the device circuit goes you are always protected.
The device doesn't care how the voltage passes and this is our logic.
15:33 technically it would not be possible to insert the German plugs into the Italian ones with the holes in line, if that plug obviously enters someone has forced the insertion with a German plug by widening the holes, like you done, there are italian to germans adapters for those sockets.
PS: however you risked a lot because on the phase excluding the neutral there are not 220/230 volts but 380 volts (380 √ 3)
The live and neutral look "double-drilled" because Italy used to have slightly different sized outlets for lamps vs appliances w/ electric motors, because they billed those at different rates in the old days.
Huh, that is actually a cool distinction! How big was the difference in rates?
Good fact 👍
@@sys-administrator electricity didnt exist thousands of years ago though..
The smaller holes are rated for 10A, while the larger ones are for 16A. A socket with both is called "bi-passo" (two-step)
@@sys-administrator except with Tesla and Edison operating in America, America invented household electricity and the central grid. Why do you think the US plug standard is so relatively dangerous and called type A or type B; it was the first invented and before safety design.
You can't even imagine how under pressure I felt when I saw that Electroboom was going to judge my country's domestic electrical system.
Per poi scoprire che gli Stati Uniti sono decisamente indietro per certi aspetti legati alla sicurezza.
Infatti 😂😂
By the US standard for electricity Europe is a paradise of safety, when done the right way, you can even open any panel and still be safe, all wire connection are in recessed area and so bare wire if the isolation was stripped the right length. In us you will find a lots of bare busbar and bare wire even for domestic panel.
Even the ground is isolated in europe.
Don't worry....US electrical system is sh.t, EU and UK is good.
Since the NEC 2017 in America we do have GFCI at the panel in all areas where water may be present, and basically every circuit requires CAFCI with the only exceptions being appliances with large motors or anything else with a large in-rush current that would cause nuisance tripping
Here in Croatia our plugs are basicaly the same as in Italy but our wall plugs are recessed and ones without ground are different shape so you can not plug in a plug that requires a ground in there.
8:20 the intrusive thoughts came in
I would’ve done that not gonna lie
I love how his daughter and wife are looking for and enjoying the beauty of Italy and hes like "where breaker box?!"
Priorities right
@@kornaros96 to be fair if I where in Italy Id probably spent more time looking at cars then at Italy. We all got our priorities.
He's enjoying Italy in his own way.
This is how I was with phones and computers when I was a kid.
I'd probably go straight to a library or museum
The reason the UK have fuses in every plug is because the socket circuit (ring main) is 32Amps. The plug and apliances should be protected at 16Amps.
That is an RCD rated at 30mA of fault current. All sockets and light points have the earth cable. The can not be more than 24V contact voltage in showers and 50V in the rest of sockets. We have earth resistances here around 4-10 Ohms.
I love that italian plug! We have the same small ones here in Germany, but they don't have the middle pin, so either small without ground, or bulky but grounded.
When Mehdi was fidgeting with the potentiometer in the wall socket, my lights started flickering and the storm knocked my power out for a few minutes lol. Thank you for the immersive experience Mehdi, I appreciate you engaging the viewers more 😆
Lmao
I am an electrician in Northern Italy and the 2 different plugs are for different circuits. The smaler one is for the as we call it Light circuit witch has a 10A braker and 1.5mm² wires for smaller appliances and a second "Force circuit" with bigger and thiccer plugs, 2.5mm² wires and a 16A braker. Also we have seperate 16A brakers for things like wasching maschines, electric stoves or furnaces and dishwashers.
Some countries allow 16A for 1.5mm2 wire and 20A for 2.5mm2.
I was interested in the characteristics of the circuit breakers C. In Czech we use B..
I’m italian and i’ve been following you for about an year now…and seeing this video just now for the first time is freaking epic😂😂😂😂❤️❤️
The code for electricity is different in all European countries. The only thing that is common (except for the UK) is the voltage of 220V/50Hz for one phase and 380V for 3 phases. The two pronged plugs fit all European systems, have no earth and are limited to items with no more than 2.5A .And the law is that these items have to be isolated ( no metal case etc.) Many hotels have automatic fuses to limit those two pronged sockets to use with items that use no more than 1A. Had often the problem in hotels that I had to use my hairdryer outside the bathroom because the sockets were limited to only work with an electric shaver or other low current items. The plug of a microwave would fit, but not work, because of the limitation to 1A. I don't know how the law is in Italy, but In Germany you have at least two GFCI - one for the whole apartment/house with 30mA and one with 0.3mA or 0.1mA for every bathroom/restroom. And there are additional rules for the distance between sockets and switches and wet areas in bathrooms. And in Germany you won't find a wall socket without earth. There are fixed sockets for the standard European plug in some items, but those are shaped with a fixed collar that only the two pronged European standard plug will fit and have most of the times fuses that limit the current allowed. Germany uses normally only type C sockets that have a collar that stops you from touching the prongs and security features that close the holes if they don't used both at the same time like you had it in Italy for childrens safety.
You visited one of the oldest cities in Italy. I designed some electric implants, so I can confirm: Italian plugs have a design that prevents the insertion of a single terminal, and 2 different plug rated to 10 A max vs 16 A. Every house has differential breaker just under the main switch. Even our suppliers meters include a differential with idn 0,003 A So that the whole implant is protected from the source. Problems (in home environment) starts because we put in series a lot of differential breakers with the same idn rate so you are not granted that is the nearest one the that breaks when something goes wrong. We should put decrescent idn and reaction times switches in order yo perfect the system. In some hotel bathroom or other applications we have 0,001 idn so is safer, and hopefully you'll break terminal circuit instead of the main one for a local problem.
We've got selectivity-rules to prevent such situations from occuring in The Netherlands (and probably Europe, as the NEN and IEC-standards are ever more integrated). Special tables list which breaker-characteristic and tripping-current can be used after another breaker, without running the risk of having them both trip due to the same fault.
However, especially main fuse links, that protect the line coming into the home have a tendency to be weakened from earlier abuse or even temporary overcurrent situations at just an amp over their rating: they can last a very long time before the fuse link breaks at such low overcurrents.
A nice dead short behind a regular B10 breaker can then also kill the main fuse (a 25 Amp slow-blow) easily.
About the current ratings: are you sure you didn't put a zero too much in your tripping currents? 0,03 Amp is a regular current for RCD's to have to trip (while my experience as an electrician building cabinets, where every RCBO and RCD was tested before the cabinet would leave the factory, was that most of them would trip at 18 to 21 mA).
Why spread fake news?
The device present in the Italian "meter" is a C63 circuit breaker with a breaking capacity of 6000 A, there is no differential switch!
@@weeardguy In Italy, many electricians aren't very-well-taught on selectivity, especially for thermal-magnetic breakers. There are tables list from the breaker manufacturers which allow for coordination of cascading brakers, but they aren't generally followed (in residential wirings at least, perhaps not in industrial ones).
@@Laigh I've read somewhere that the old ENEL analogue meter used to have a ground fault switch, but surely enough it hasn't been around since they've swapped it with the electronic one in the early 2000s
In Italy, local regulations mandate the use of a RCB for the whole house (we usually use more than one, for example one for the outlets and one for the lights) and there is a good reason for that:
We use a TT system instead of the more common TN.
In the TT systems all of the ground wires coming from the outlets and the permanently installed appliances are connected to one or more earth rods buried around the building.... and nothing else.
Every building shall have his own ground which must be separated from the mains (no connection between neutral and ground is allowed).
In case of a dead short between the live and the ground, the fault current shall travel inside the ground wire, inside the ground rods, than shall travel trough the earth and coming up from the ground rods installed inside the transformer shed to reach the neutral connection..... this means that the earth system shall be able to handle the entire fault current in order to trip the breaker!!!!
Using a RCB vastly simplify the things (now the earth rods are required to carry only 30mA instead of hundreds of amps!!!)
BTW:
Light blue = neutral
Yellow wire with green stripes (bicolor wire) = earth
Brown, black and gray = live conductors (any of these colors are allowed in a single phase environment, for example to have a distinction between circuit1, circuit2 and lights, but of course three different colors are useful in a 3 phase environment).
Any color (except light blue and yellow/greeen) = switched lives (for lighting fixtures).
The electrical distribution system is 400V 3-phase with neutral (subscriptions up to 6kW are supplied in single phase between one phase and neutral, larger subscriptions are supplied with all of the 3 phases).
The ground rod should be able to handle more than 30mA. If it has a high resistance the voltage will be 30mAxresistance. Having a resistance under 3 Ohms is good because ven if the 30mA gfci is faulty it will handle the high current and trip a normal breaker.
@@mernok2001 Of course, the lower is the resistance, the better is the protection (and below a certain level the ground can also be able to dump enough current to trip a breaker) but there are some problems:
First of all, making a very good ground in some places (eg, where there is a rocky soil) can be tricky and costly.
Second, in a TT environment you cannot "cheat" by connecting your ground to the neutral wire: this operation is illegal and can also trip the main breaker inside the meter (many power companies check for current imbalances between live and neutral and trip the breaker in case of a 500mA difference).
Third, to trip a breaker you either need a current a bit higher than the designed current for quite a long time or at least 10x the designed current to get an instant trip: if the current that the ground system can dump is higher than the designed current but smaller than the instant trip current, the breaker needs some time to trip and everything that is connected to this ground become connected to the live conductor..... the safety ground is no longer safe!!!.
@@teslacoiler I saw a video of some people reconstructing the type of grounding Nikola Tesla used for his Wardenclyffe tower. They got 0.44 Ohms is I remember correctly. I bet they could get even better value by using longer ground electrodes and wetting it with an electrolyte like sodium carbonate solution.
@@mernok2001 ground rods are expensive. Idk why yall stuck on grounding capabilities. It’s just better that you would only let 30mA rather than the full fault current is why the RCD/GFCI are good. Its not that ground system cant handle the full fault but why would u want full fault current? Food for thought, if no breaker trips, it will see full fault current and continue to flow until someone discovers it by accident. It could be a few amps or may not cause fire but could still kill someone unsespecting. What if u had a regular breaker that trips at 15Amps but the fault is 3, quite enough to kill. Ground should sink it but there is paint on the wire or the box went rusty, whatever scenario increases the ground resistance so that it would rather flow thru a body, a GFCI/RCD would have caught such an event. Its a shame we don’t have whole home RCD in America
@@Wtfinc A 30mA gfci is only a supplimentary protection.You must still have protection if it fails.In France they use a 500mA gfci for the entire building and 30mA gfcis after that for separate circuits.If the 30mA fails the 500mA main will trip.Also keep in mind that water and gas pipes must be bonded to ground.(unless plastic of course).They will further improve grounding.
Nice video! Btw in Italy, if you want to certify any electrical system, you must have ground fault detection at each housing units (hotel room, apartment, house, etc.), plus you must use only double insulate wirings, only certified plugs, and the whole system has to be validated by a certified technician, otherwise the system will be declared illegal and it won't be possible to be used by anyone (owner included).
It is of course quite expensive, but a strict safety regulation helps to reduce fires and shocks
@ElectroBoom Ground fault protection is mandatory in Italy as well as circuit breakers, but they are generally placed just after the smart meter belonging to the AMI of the distributors, black is the phase, blue is the neutral. If it is not that hotel has some issue with the connections. This is an European standard. Black, brown phase, blue always neutral, green and yellow ground and you can use red for the phase when you need to connect to switches (deviators) for lighting a bulb from two different places. For the Voltage it is closer to 230V at night time since there is less load in the grid so the voltage raise.
Other people : "The vacation trip was great, might as well take good rest at the hotel."
Mehdi : "Haha, this breaker need to be test, cuz it be a good trip to see."
Obviously for Mehdi a good trip has to involve to trip a breaker or two. A very trippy tourist indeed...
Medhi's family: explores Venice and more
Medhi: I NEED TO SEE THE BREAKERS AND SOCKETS
Fun fact : the problem about dual standard of plugs around is also a thing in Spain. So many people use Schuko plugs on swiss-like outlets (Type J?) and get no ground for their appliances.
In fact, I've only recently started using grounded outlets.
Natural selection? Probably.
11:40 "it's been delayed" WELCOME TO ITALY, where not a single train is on time HAHA!
you'd get used to German rail service pretty quickly if you move if it's the same in italy
Love how Mehdi is the only guy who can take a nice trip to Venice and rather than talk about the local culture instead says "How can I mess with the electrical in my hotel room!?" 🤣
Normal people: Let’s check the famous locations
Medhi: FUSE BOXES! SHOW ME WHERE THEY ARE
8:25 ..hehhe i can turn off the entire hotel 😈😈 no not rn 🤣🤣
Hi Medhi, i'm italian and i'm now explaining you some things :)
Here in italy you must have a 30ma braker to cover all the house. Then in newer homes you have 3 brakers, 1 16A 30ma for plugs (the 16A plugs are the ones with the bigger holes or with the small and big holes together), 1 10A 30mh for lights (10A are also the plugs with only the small holes), and the one 5ma to cover only the bathroom area (they must be all in the same place and in a visible spot). Bye Bye
Can you please explain why they set Rome on fire 💀
@@mutated__donkey5840 Soccer thing, probably
@@mutated__donkey5840 after Rome wom a football match probably, and it wan not on fire ahhaha
@@mutated__donkey5840 AS Roma won the European Conference League
10A seems excessive for a lighting circuit, especially considering let through energy and cable sizing. Also, I've never seen a 5A breaker before.. what brand do they use?
14:14 look at all these people unaware that they’re in the presence of a certified electrical engineer
I don’t know if you had any at your hotel, but in my grandma’s vacation house in Sicily she has switches, but they are controlled by solenoids. This is usually on a three-way switch configuration.
Don't try in India 🌚
"Ah, they set the city on fire before I get the chance to do it myself"
Had me laughing! 😅🤣😆
What were they doing there anyway?
@@Scyth3934 Roma football club supporters cheering for their new player. I'm guessing it was Dybala based on the timing of the video.
@@MarcelloZucchi91 they do a tiki torch March?
@@MarcelloZucchi91 i thought it was an escalating demonstration because of the smoke everywhere