Four Days Later - Is the Nintendo Switch OLED REALLY worth $350 ? | MVG
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ต.ค. 2021
- The Nintendo Switch OLED Model is here. And I've spent the past four days with one and have really put it to the test. Here is a no nonsense review of the OLED Switch - my thoughts, and whether you should consider upgrading to one if you already own a Switch. Is it really worth $350 ? Were mistakes made? Please Enjoy!
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USB 2.0 limit is 480 Mega **BITS** per second, once you discount framing and packetization overloads, it's more like 48-50 Mega **BYTES** per second, on top of that you'll have "losses" when wrapping the ethernet packets, that will introduce their own overheads (control fields and so)... . Great channel, keep on it.
Ok... Sure... But he consistently said bytes when he meant bits. The speeds on screen are labeled Mbps so that's supposed to be bits and he said bytes, and he mentioned his internet speed is 1000 Mega Bytes but I don't think anyone offers that as an option, I'm pretty sure he means 1000 Mbps, and yes he said 480 Mega Bytes and meant Mega bits.
The question is as much about latency, surely, rather than bandwidth?
@@TheGodOfAllThatWas We do actually have one ISP here in Sweden that offers 10 gigabit connections. That would be 1250 megabytes per second.
There's really no point here other than a correction, as the speeds given in the speed test are in megabits, not bytes like you say. So 70 odd megabits per second. In his narration he basically called it all bytes, but it makes no difference here to the message unless it was in fact 70 megabytes.
@@guderian557 Here in Tennessee we have 10 gigabit.
As a launch Switch owner, the Switch OLED is definitely a case of want and not need. Since I also primarily play docked I think I’ll pass and instead invest in a OLED TV.
Already had an oled TV and a launch switch but I also grabbed the oled switch
Nailed it bought it because i wanted it i already had a switch. I still haven't opened my OLED
to me its not worth it at all if you already have a switch, the panel might have nice colors but its pixel layout is different and it has less subpixels so its technically less resolution than the old ones, so its an upgrade in color but a downgrade in clarity. Not worth any amount of money if you ask me. The kickstand is the only thing going for it atm. It would be much better to wait another 2 years until they are forced to released an upgraded revision due to new games not being capable of running on the current hardware.
I had a launch edition switch and happily bought OLED since I play primarily handheld and the bigger screen, better colors and battery life have been worth it for me. Absolutely loving it so far.
@@drudigger I agree totally how could you just bring out a oled display on a obsolete chips. Set, why didn’t they just upgrade the dang thing
Only Nintendo can getaway with these type of thing if this was Microsoft or Sony they would get flame for it ..
For me personally, the OLED screen was absolutely enough reason to upgrade (that, and the kick stand). It just feels… right? Like my old switch looks awful in comparison to it now. The screen size is fantastic and visually games look markedly better and it’s made me want to actually play switch games again.
Exactly. Also, the 64GB is a very welcoming addition after 5 years of existence.
@@ifabianxd1338 YES. So many bigger games are too big to even be the only game on the original switch’s internal storage.
what you're arguing is that a minor upgrade to what's supposed to be half of your switch experience justifies buying an entirely new version, despite there being no overclock/higher clock on any of the hardware, or any changes to the hardware period apart from 64GB of base storage. it's quite weak an argument and i personally don't think that it's justified paying $50 more than the og RRP lmao
(Edit: forgot to mention that in portable mode, it still runs at 720p. which is quite disappointing)
Glad you mentioned the underrated Vita. The display on that was enough in and of itself to convince me to order a Switch OLED
"Look at Shantae, the game looks georgeous, thanks to the *excellent porting job* and also the OLED panel"
haha yes the excellent porting job needs to be emphasized too!
Shantaes hips don’t lie
He be flexing on us 💪
Lol well ya can't really blame him for being proud of his own work. Am sure he worked hard on it & is very happy w the way it turned out. Might be his crowning achievement. I'd be damn proud of myself too for that.
@@Wingedmagician Shakira ain't got nothin' on her.
I'm going to say this again, I really wish that Nintendo just upgraded the switch lite with an OLED screen. You don't dock that console, it's always portable, it makes the MOST sense to have. Specially with that smaller bezel, and on a smaller device, it would make it look like a modern piece of tech. Anyway, no it's not worth 350.
perhaps in a near future they might do it?
I agree fully
BTW, did you misspell portable by accident?
That's why you're not in charge man, you can't go around making sense like that.
No way . If I want that small of a screen ilk stick to my 2dsxl. I love the 2 screen idea anyways. Now I could see them adding a oled lite in the future . But I'm so thankful they didn't just go that route .
I want Switch Lite OLED
Thanks for testing it out. I got my first switch a month before this released, and know I only really missed out on a screen.
Though I have had a Samsung A3 before, and those amoleds are gorgeous.
I am considering getting the OLED Switch, just because I have a launch switch, and I would benefit from both the OLED screen and the increased battery that the 1.1 versions got
But that's about it... 650$ gone like that
@@rchaelk2319 worth it every cent my dude, I use my switch oled far more than my OG Switch thanks to the better battery
@@DeadLineGame that's actually what matters.
Gg dude
I also have the v1 switch from 2017 and the OLED switch I have now is miles better
@@DeadLineGame it’s still a 720p screen tho. Not to mention no new internals.
I think that it's pathetic that stick-drifting roughly 23 years after the release of the Dreamcast, with it's _bullet-proof_ hall-effect based analog-sticks (and triggers) is still a major issue.
I totally agree, I have: a ps vita, ds lite, 3ds xl, wii u with game pad, many systems that use a controller and NONE of those have ever had drifting issues with the analog sticks so the switch is the only console I’ve had that has drift issues, really shows how badly made and unreliable those small sticks are
Hall effect sensors FTW
SEGA does what NINTENDON'T !!!
@@Sashko_Dee to be fair a Nintendo gameboy survived a bomb blast, Nintendo used to take their durability game seriously but nowadays that doesn’t seem to be the case
Dreamcast sticks are the worst for me also dpad i own 3 pads and none of them play well :/
That comparison with the Vita made me realize just how ahead of it’s time it truly was and still is today. I’d even go as far as saying the scene comparing Final Fantasy X HD looks better on the Vitas screen. An absolutely phenomenal handheld that I still play all the time. Killzone Mercenary FTW.
Every time you mention the Vita, it makes me sad. It could have been a great console. But killed by Sony's push to get every gadget to use their own propietery storage. With hindsight, I am suprised that PSP still sells well despite the UMD disks.
Sony dropped the ball on the Vita. It should still be in production.
I love my Vita through and through. Beautiful screen for its time and Killzone Mercenary is still the best handheld/mobile shooter to date. Such a damn shame it didn't catch on.
I loved the Vita. It was definitely the Dreamcast of handhelds. I think if Sony just cut back a bit and lowered the price, it could've done well. Did anyone really need 2 touch screens and 2 cameras? I know Tearaway made great use of them but all that hardware for 2 or 3 great games to use is just a sign it was overdesigned.
@@phamquanghuy8000 The UMD was just a game format, it's not surprising at all that it sold well. You went into a store, bought the psp game and played it. Memory cards are a whole different comparison.
This was such an interesting video I loved it!! I just bought a switch oled online today, still waiting to actually get it but I'm so excited. I already have a switch lite however I was wanting to upgrade so that I could have a switch that had docked mode so it made way more sense for me to get the oled and have the full nice upgrade rather than going back to a regular switch for that. I can't wait to see this beautiful screen for myself and be able to play switch games on the tv with my family :)
same here! Get mine on Monday..and it helps we will be able to sell the Switch Lite to help with the costs :)
I love the music you use for your videos! That intro is 🔥
Staying on the old one myself. I primarily play docked so there is no reason what so ever for me to get the new one.
I will get one eventually, I can sell my Switch for $300+ still because it's unpatched which has a demand for it.
So $50+tax upgrade for the new one? Sure not a big deal.
I still hope Nintendo will one day make a permanently docked version with gigabit ethernet, the pro controller, and 4k compatibility, not holding my breath though.
Same, especially since I have the 2019 model
Quite frankly, as much as an OLED screen is much better, I don't think it's worth it.
If you don't have a Switch yet, I still think it's better to pay cheaper on Lite (if you play first in portable mode) or on the normal model since there is no difference in games and the hardware is exactly the same.
If you already have a Switch, would you really pay $350 for a model that has exactly the same hardware as the console you already own? (And worse, if you play first in the dock you won't have any difference and if you play first in portable mode, it's no longer worth getting a Switch Lite which is cheaper and more ''portable'' since it's smaller and easier to take anywhere and have a d-pad ? ), in my opinion it's even more worthwhile to buy a Steam Deck since it's only $50 more and besides having a much more powerful hardware, it's capable of running games that the Switch doesn't can rotate. ( Aside from some games that run at 30fps on Switch that can be played at 60fps on Steam Deck like Doom Eternal not to mention games that run on Cloud on Switch but natively on Steam Deck like Control )
Yea, and can't hack this OLED model without hardware mod.
As a Latin American, watching MVG downloading stuff at Ultra lightning fast speeds and claiming its unacceptable makes me feel like 🤡.
I feel you hermano :v
What does you being Latin American have to do with it?
@@ohwell8765 kind of an old post here but iirc the speed at which MVG is downloadong far higher than the top tier, very expensive, speeds we have here
@@VagrantValmar me with Australian speeds 💀
Provence of italy too 🫡 feel you brothers
i owned a switch lite and used it undocked or in a charging stand while playing.
I bought the OLED for the larger display and nicer quality, glass screen etc. I am not disappointed so far. owning a first gen vita since launch I know how nice oleds are and glad to have one for a gaming console again.
I agree and hope that they update content to be more OLED friendly tho without static borders etc
I got a nintendo switch oled and the first thing i love about it is the stand. The older model just has a flimsy stick kickstand that only realy works on a table. The Oled model has a super nice one that you can set at any angle, and you can prop it up on your lap with detached joycons. just being able to prop the switch up easily and at any spot or angle is worth 20 dollars.
The fact that they still haven't enabled USB3 and real gigabit speeds is utterly disappointing.
I was expecting more from the new docking station.
Impossible. USB-C HDMI alternate mode uses up all the USB3 pins, leaving only the USB2 ones. You simply can't do HDMI and USB3 over a USB-C cable at the same time. Not without workarounds, anyhow. They could switch to USB-C DisplayPort alt mode, since that supports using less pins if less bandwidth is required, and you can do up to 4K60 with only half the pins, leaving enough pins for full USB3 speeds. However, they would then need a DP-to-HDMI converter in the dock, increasing costs. Thunderbolt would be another workaround, but isn't practical at these pricepoints.
All that said, nothing stops them from delivering at least ~300 Mbps speeds over USB2.
Your first mistake was expecting anything from Nintendo
@@guspaz people have forced usb3 on switch btw, all it does it lower bluetooth singles lol
It’ll probably be a dlc unlock later on ;)
It's nintendo they do the bare minimum.
I still think they should've made a dedicated 'home' Switch, packed with a Pro controller. It would be considerably cheaper to produce, and there are millions of people out there that don't game on the go.
If Nintendo was smart, they would do that…. Of course, if they were smart, they would release all of their old games on Switch as well.
Why would anybody but that system though? I mean, the WiiU didn't sell worth a darn, and the main chip in the Switch is so underpowered compared to the other stationary consoles, that no one would want to buy it. The switch-iness of the Switch is why you buy it.
@@predabot__6778 "the switch-iness of the switch is why you buy it."
I think the Switch Lite existing and selling as well as it has instantly proves that wrong.
It would make perfect sense to have a more traditional console version of the Switch, a large amount of people have never played their Switch outside of the dock.
@@predabot__6778 A lot of people never play on the go. Also the Pro controller is fantastic.
There’s definitely an argument for it! Perhaps they’ll do it as a budget option when they’re ready to release their next generation console though as selling an underpowered “home” console probably devalues the Switch ecosystem right now.
Just bought the OLED. I went in for the Lite but when I saw the OLED I really wanted that instead. I may also purchase a Lite later on. I am planning on mostly using it undocked but the ability to use it on a tv or monitor is nice to have. If I already had a Switch I would be happy with that but for $50 more you might as well get the OLED. A Lite to an OLED comes down to cost with the Lite almost being half price, its a big difference.
It is a big difference. $200 vs $350. That's almost 50% jump! Almost PS5 territory
Thanks for this run-down.
I recently got a V1 model for soft-modding and I love it, but I still find OLED screens to be quite amazing so seeing the comparisons is interesting.
When you say v1 do you mean the old original or the updated original?
@@jayle203 only the original non-red box switch can be soft-modded and even then you need to check the serial number as Nintendo made some updates to stop the joycon short payload injection method working before releasing the red-box update model. There are serial number checkers online.
@@jayle203 old original, updated original is V2
I've personally liked the premium look and feel the OLED Model has, and as someone who uses a full Switch in handheld mode quite a bit, I've liked the physical quality of life upgrades. I got mine on launch day and I've barely played any games on it because... Well... The download speed, as you mentioned, which is super disappointing for all Switch models overall. You can't bring your games/apps/updates/DLC over from one microSD card to another, you have to just redownload everything, so my Switch spent two solid days doing nothing but downloading all of my content.
2 days??? A game typically takes 20-30 minutes to download lol
you can transfer all games and save on a sd to another there is video on youtube that show how to do it, i'm gonna do it in 10min cause i've just got a new sd card
@@enzog1078 not over shit internet.
'Premium look & feel'? It's the same plastic as before...
@@pinkace nah the screen makes it look much more premium. And the kickstand is far superior. It’s mainly the bezel reduction but it looks 10 times more premium.
"70mbs is unacceptable in 2021" that burns. That's my top speed here in Wales haha.
They did just release a 900mbs option though.... At a price
Mean while here in ONtario Canada I can only afford 25 mbps plus home phone (since I can't afford internet and a cellphone together)
Stop complaining 70 is more than enough
Here in Washington state living on 10mbps, to upgrade to 40mbps is a $9,000 install fee.
The games are far to large digitally, its not like 70mbs is slow in terms of 2021..
I'm totally fine with 70. I generally put stuff to download before work or before bed and I'm fine. I've looked at getting the faster internet. I think it's £60 a month plus line rental, but I generally don't need that speed.
The only time it pisses me off is when I get home from work and get stuck with a massive game update haha
I liked the way you tear each part and give a review about the hardware as well...keep it up....
I’d have double checked the cable and connection with a laptop to check for issues with the router or cable too.
Hopefully the speed issues will be patched on the fly with dock firmware.
One thing I’d have loved to have tested is a direct usb3.0 USB-C Ethernet adaptor to see if the speeds improve.
Reminder that network speeds are measured in bits, not bytes. Loved the review! Really appreciate you being so thorough.
USB bandwidth as well.
So is better that presented In the video?. I dont know much baour bits and bytes?
I love that the PSvita is so incredible that the Switch keeps getting compared to it
Imagine how much Sony regrets not putting a little more effort i getting the Vita right, thy were a nat's hair away from getting it right, all they needed was a normal SD card slot, more first party games, I mean they have so much choice in that area, think of all the PS2 ports that would have played and look amazing on the PSV OLED screen, Dark Cloud 1&2 Vita edition anyone, not to mention ICO, Shadow of the Colossus, the Silent Hill games, a Resident
Evil games Vita collection, a GTA pack consisting of GTA 3/VC/SA would have sold like hot cakes not to mention millions of Vita's (now the NS has the tipple GTA pack coming, you watch how many it sells, mark my words, it will sell silly amounts not to mention millions of Switches just for that release), point is there was so much low-hanging fruit they could have easily ported to the Vita to sell consoles by the bucket load, not to mention all those IPs they could make new handheld orientated content for, I even heard rumours of Dreamcast games coming to the Vita, which would have been amazing, especially at the time, so much missed potential with the Vita. Still at least we have it now with CFW, thanks to having a native PS1 and PSP CPU it's perfect for playing PS1 and PSP games, especially on the OLED, you can have your whole PS1 library on the Vita, plus so many amazing PSP games in 2X native resolution, like Vice City and Liberty City Stories, both amazing games that look incredible on the OLED screen, the Vita even has a really good version of RetroArch, opening up thousands of classics that look amazing, again thanks to the OLED.
I wouldn't be surprised if Sony had another crack at it, releasing a PS4 level handheld, with the capability of playing most of its legacy library from PS1/2/3/4, as well as handheld versions of it's latest AAA titles, now that would sell gang busters if it was sone properly, remoteplay with PS5 would be amazing, another amazing feature of the VITA, that is RP with the PS4, it may have had it's control quirks, but playing the Last of us on the Vita was awsome back in the day.
@@Wobble2007 Sony did a horrible job supporting the Vita with first party titles. It was a good JRPG machine but not much else. In the long run it worked out for the best since they put everything into the PS4.
Count on the next major Switch update, whenever it happens, to bring performance up to the PS4 level. This is reasonable given where Apple SoCs already were back in 2018 and that Nvidia will be able to make something at least as performant with a cut down Orin SoC.
@@KoolAidManOG Given that the current NS is already pretty close to a base XB1/PS4, especially in docked mode, the NV Tegra X1 was and still is no slouch, it is a full fat Maxwell GPU with 256 cores don't forget, the next NS will quite likely use the latest Nvidia Tegra based SoC, which uses an Ampere or the Ampere-Next based GPU with 2048 CUDA or more cores, meaning the Switch2 will be far more capable than even the PS4 Pro, obviously it won't be in PS5 territory, but it will be capable of 4K for one thing, in docked mode that is, I'd imagine Nintendo will approach the Switch 2 slightly differently though, separating the specs between the dock and console, I.E having a second GPU in the dock capable of 4K, perhaps some type of custom SLI chip with DLSS capability to help out pushing 4K @ a stable 60 FPS, could also just be they design the dock similarly to a USB-C external GPU, putting a Tegra with fewer cores and RAM in the handheld console, and one with many more cores and RAM in the dock. This way they can also offer a cheaper Switch 2 Lite sans the dock. Who knows though really, it's just speculation, but fun to ponder.
@@Wobble2007 Nintendo won't do such thing. Why? Because of the cost of the hardware and all the technical hurdles they would need to jump. Nintendo is very cost-aware company. Today's level of performance for handheld systems that is at reasonable cost is something like Steam Deck which is what I would call "pretty close to PS4". In 2-3 years it might double and of course if they stick with NV then DLSS would be used extensively on such system so we might actually see quite high resolutions on such console. Given Nintendo cost-awareness I would rather expect them to make 1080p handheld, 1440p tops, give it ~2TFLOPs and call it a day. Why? No competition and no need to make it any faster.
@@Wobble2007 should be “gnat.”
Nice breakdown of the OLED model. I have no plans to get one at this time. My 1st gen switch is just fine. The screen burn in is something that is a concern as I use mine 98% in handheld and have tons of hours over the 3.5+ years now that I have had it. I’ll be watching for any burn in reports down the road. Zero issues with burn in for a regular IPS type LCD panel. I’ve been very happy with the switch over all and is my only gaming system. Sure I’ve replaced the battery after about 2 year but also redid the thermal paste while it was apart with arctic silver 5. Have a 1TB micro sd card. Both analog sticks have been replaced and also have clear joy con shells with a D-pad now on the left one instead of buttons. Yes Nintendo people do want a D-pad left joy con! The mini dock for the stock dock guts, also much easier to take with you vs the huge hunk of plastic that is the stock dock. My AC adapter went bad but a cheap replacement fix. I’m happy with the switch. Sure Xbox X/S or PS 5 power would be awesome! but not realistic for ~$300 system. They do exist but are in the $2.5K+ range, with like 30 minutes of battery life at 100% graphics. Overall I’m quite happy Nintendo 👍
Great video, thank you for making it! Since I already own a Switch, I think I'll hold out on buying a Switch OLED and just wait for Nintendo's next console to come out instead.
This is why I am a subscriber. No sugar coating when MVG delivers his honest opinion. Two thumbs up!👍👍
I would have bought one if it had a boost to performance, but sadly just the same Switch with a nicer screen.
I was hoping for the performance boost as well :(
@@Buggsucksatvideogames 4k visuals on a 720p screen like that would work
@@yarc9 Who said anything about 4K visuals on a 720 screen fool
There really is no reason to buy if you play in Docked Mode almost Exclusively.
@@yarc9 the switch can't keep up 720p on the 720p screen. A stable 720p/30fps is what they meant
Only had a few hours with mine so far, but I’m glad I upgraded. I’m partially sighted so always struggled to use the Switch handheld with most games (most of my handheld time was quick New Horizons sessions), but the larger more vibrant screen is a huge boon. Hopefully it’ll allow me to play a wider range of games handheld, and I’m really looking forward to trying more games with it.
Got the oled for the same reason, the classic switch screen size was a strain on my eyes
I just plug it to my high quality TV, problem solved. This should've been an upgraded model for the same price not 350$
@@Zeriel00 that completely defeats the purpose of handheld mode 😂
Very comprehensive. I appreciate that 👍🏻
"Before someone asks, there is no way to mod this device for homebrew." Welp, this video didn't stay current for long.
It’s only a matter of time until the homebrew community finds a way to crack the the system.
@@avatarlui9195 It was cracked before the video came out. The same device that works on the Lite works on the OLED, it just needs to be manually soldered with wires. MVG even has one in his Switch Lite.
@@AdmiralKird I see, I’ll probably wait for the scene to find new and more easier methods to install custom firmware on the switch as the current one I have bad luck with.
WHUT! You can mod Switches now? (I mean, ones released after the Joycon port hack was fixed...) That's really good news! I was watching this like "blah blah new panel blah blah who cares, can't mod it, don't want it."
@@nickwallette6201 I'm pretty sure MVG has showed pictures of his Switch Lite running homebrew before.
It's funny hearing MVG say those speeds are atrocious when I get less than a fraction of that where I live lol. I get what he was trying to say but it's still funny
Worse yet thousand dollar TV also have that same speed. (It's due to the USB 2 bottleneck)
haha yeah i feel you! i only have 9mbit/s down so the internet speed being slow via cable would not affect me at all
I'd kill entire worlds for less than half the speeds he's getting
When you remind me of the Vita OLED model releasing in 2012, it's depressing glaring how behind Nintendo has been at technology. Especially when you consider Nintendo also only fairly recently in relative terms got Bluetooth audio support, and that the original Nintendo Switch is the first Nintendo console with a screen that isn't sub standard definition in some form.
I remember when Nintendo used to be a bit of a powerhouse eg as far back as N64 and GameCube.
I don’t get how this doesn’t have more likes
@@AlexGray19 it's not just about graphics, although that was one of my points. But it's pretty underwhelming that Nintendo still yet can't get a decent online infrastructure in place (bad indexing on store, terrible on multiple device use, friend codes ect). Basic Bluetooth audio and HD screens arrived very late (those are very basic requirements, nothing to do with graphics). I like Nintendo. I want them to succeed and buy more of their stuff, but they really drag their heals when it comes to basic quality.
Nintendo purposely used older & cheaper technology on their consoles.
Not just for profit, they figured game developers could do better with technology they were already familiar with.
They aren't behind. They purposefully make cheap hardware for all gamers to afford
@@skycloud4802 about the internet thing, they recently started using a new technology for online games, but atm is used only for monster hunter rise and pokemon legends idk if it will be used for older games too. What bothers me is the lack of a browser to acces while in game, and the barebone home menu, the 3ds' home menu was definitely superior to the one on the switch
Great stuff! Thanks for such a thorough video!
Just a little correction, the DL an UL speeds are in bits not bytes. Other than that, great informative video as per usual
@Extundo he already seems calm, you can relax tho
This just shows how far ahead the Vita was, damn you proprietary memory cards
I loved the Vita a ton. I'm not sure it was the proprietary memory cards alone that killed it to be honest, but they didn't help. Vita got such an unfair rep either way.
@@paulbrookfield4133 Yep, both the vita and PS3 were too ambitious for their time
@@orlandofurioso7329 PS3 was a beast, that CPU it had was amazing
@@mjetektman9313 Indeed DosBox Otacon, indeed
@@mjetektman9313 only problem is not many developers knew how to use it
By far the most realistic and honest review of this device I've seen.
After I moved out, while I still owned my personal account and physical switch games, I was down a switch. Getting the switch OLED then seemed like a good idea, and in that case it was. I play equally on tv and in handheld. I really appreciate the sleeker design, it feels less like a flimsy toy now. People are viewing it like a $350 upgrade but it was never meant for current switch owners to buy as a replacement, same way as when they released the xbox one S or ps4 slim you aren't meant to view the smaller form factor as a $300 upgrade. It's a $50 upgrade for people already in the market for a switch, and atleast for me, the better screen size and quality along with the increased memory is worth that alone. The more robust and sleeker dock+switch cases and the increased battery life over my launch switch are nice bonuses.
US$510 on retail in Norway. I mainly play my Switch docked anyway, so even before it came out, I was not really looking to buy it. I don't get why it's so expensive here compared to elsewhere though. It would be cheaper to buy an imported one, pay shipping and VAT, than to buy it on retail.
Probably Supply demand. Norway is a small Market in Europe compared to France or Germany so a lot fewer Modells are shipped there and with the current chip shortages this drives up the price. In my country i've seen prices for the Oled Model go from 349,99 EUR to 500 EUR depending on the retailer.
That's normal, bet where I live will cost around $600-700...
Norway has a higher earning average than the USA has. Prices follow the budget people have, nothing is really "worth" it.
All of this is nonsense. My Steam Deck is going to be the best Switch option around lol
@@chiarosuburekeni9325 LOL no with that niche device. Good luck for Valve securing all those chips and good for you that the preorder worked for you...
Nintendo is a GLOBAL brand known by non gamers, not Valve...
Me as I watch this on my CRT monitor: "Damn bro that OLED looks clean af no cap"
My thought the entire time watching this lol
I use my switch almost exclusively in hand held mode, and as great as oled screens are, the switch light has a d-pad and doesn't have the flimsy feeling joycon slide ons for the controls and thus just feels soooo much better in the hands. If they make an OLED switch light, then I'd have a delima, but if I had no switch, and was offered a free one and had to choose between a switch lite and the new OLED switch as even up choices, I'd take the switch lite just based on how it feels in the hand compared to the joycon models.
D-pad is key for proper old-school gaming 👍
I understand completely.
I feel the exact same way about big boobies - they might look better but medium ones feel better in my hands.
@@amk8411 what a virgin thing to say
wait until you get joy con drift on the lite, it's gonna be a nightmare
I would think that they might have some board issues down the line just like previous models. Nice video on summing it all up.
The joycon drift is still an unforgivable flaw, expecting drift from these to be just as bad.
Buy a third party joycon
@@yarc9 3rd party joycons? What?
@@AchiragChiragg It means they are Joycons made by a different company besides Nintendo, I went through 3 sets of joycons in a few months, all had bad drift, then I got hori joycons and haven't had drift in over a year, seems like 3rd party is better than Nintendo's default ones.
Is it weird how I had my joycons for a year and they still dont have drift?
Better to buy a proper screw and openi up the joycon apply a piece of thick paper under the Joycon.. There's a tutorial on how to fix the drift. It's worth a shot rather than buying a new set of Joycons heck even a 3rd party one.
Hopefully there's no screen burn-in on the OLED display. Not worth $350 IMO
There will be burn in, it is an oled screen and has nothing for a screen saver
Burn-in is inevitable, it's a limitation of the technology
OLED tech has changed alot. My S3 had horrible burn in, my S7 a little bit. My S10/S20 have none. ( in the same time frame of usage )
@@visker81 I think you got lucky, my S10 got burn in after like one hour of watching TH-cam videos. I had to take it back and the same thing happened to the new one.
Depends, lower the screen brightness and it should be manageable.
have you noticed the "update dock" option in the system menus yet? I wonder if they might be planning on enabling that usb 3.0 sooner or later.
Amazing video! Have you had any issues with green tint?
I love it. Its so nice to hold with the oled screen it feels more polished material wise too.
The back stand is the best addition
I am so accustomed to homebrew on my Switch that it really needs to have a much better option than a $150-200 modchip to make me think of an upgrade.
Facts lol
Amen to that. Although, I'm happy there's at least ONE option. An un-moddable system is as good as a brick, IMO.
A softmod would be fantastic, but I'm willing to wait for EOL before one is available. Here's hoping...
I've never owned or played a switch. and i picked up a switch oled on launch day. still haven't opened it. i also have a hacked OG oled 3g vita and o3dsxl. even if i have to fi d a modchip somewhere, i would buy one. as the other person said, hopefully we don't have to wait until EOL. and i also agree with the statement that an unmoddable device is basically as good as a brick lol.
150 - 200€ is practically what They earn selling a console
Honestly, if i could find a mod chip I'd get one for this. Ain't no way I'm going back to patched
Absolutely loving mine so far!
4:40 that's mega*bits* per second, not megabytes. Megabytes per second would be MB/s. Quite a big difference and some people could get confused since many platforms like Steam show downloads in MB/s instead of the usual Mbps.
Correct. And at 11:58, those two chips next to the SoC are the LPDDR4 RAM chips, *not* the Flash memory. The Flash is soldered to the backside of the mainboard, behind another shield. Similar to the Switch Lite, and not like the previous Switch which had a replaceable eMMC module.
MVG: 4.5 hour for 27 gigs is unacceptable in 2021
Me with a 40mbit copper: bruh
Brother, I had 8mbps for over 5 years until Verizon finally became available in my area so I totally get you lmao
Well I'm in Mexico so for me you are in the heaven
5mbit DSL gang, waiting for Elon space internet to download larger games
I wouldn’t even consider downloading a 27Gb game, I’d go to Walmart and buy the physical version.
I can relate, I can get up to 5mb/sec on a good day and that’s using my hotspot which is leagues better than my House Wifi. That only gives me 500kb - 1mb/sec.
The X in Final Fantasy X is the roman numeral 10, that's how they choose to increment that series.
So loving your neon yellow drips😍Where did you buy them from?
Kudos on the Shameless Shantae plug MVG. 🤣
The main deal-breaker for me is eventual OLED related screen-burn... Maybe 1, 2, 3 years time or varies wildly dependent on User usage - who knows. Micro-LED (not mini-LED which is completely different) will be the real game changer... as well as Solid State batteries.
Probably one of the better reviews of the model. Nicely done
So, stick drift AND burn-in? I can't say I'm excited for it.
You'll still buy it though
Burn-in is quite rare if you actually take care of your screen. Don't leave it at max brightness and have some breaks to avoid having the same image on the screen for too long
@@AJ-xv7oh Never bought it.
It would be amazing if a game took 4 hours to download with my internet.
I'm so sorry
4:36 75 megaBYTES per second would be a good speed for a wired network connection, but you were getting 75 megaBITS per second, which is one eighth the speed you claimed you got, as shown by the lowercase b in "Mbps".
I'm sure MVG knows this. The guy is a coding genius
@Reclaimer Leviathan I can't disagree. He should have done a text correction on screen
@Reclaimer Leviathan ok
Thank you very much!
I have a random question - what if you were an ex switch owner, and would like to get back on the switch (although owning a gaming pc, and next gen consoles) is it worth it? Or should i potentially wait for an "upgraded" version in a few years** (doubt that's when it'll come out).
Got mine for insane 155 € new in a nearby shop in some christmas sales coupon sale. Had to get it now. Thought long about to get a Switch. Love it and my get to go in breaks inbetween my job.
Hearing it's worse with glare, when it's portability is so important is a huge con.
Well yeah when pixels are turned off the reflection is more obvious no light to reflect away.
Probably the glass front
Can you elaborate on this?
3:57 - Yep, love the lack of a border. Whoever developed this port sure is smart and cool. 😜
I don't even like borders on displays that aren't as susceptible to burn in. Just let me focus on the game, get those distracting borders outta here.
Nintendo: I'm gonna release an OLED switch!
My TV: I'm years ahead of you 😈
Since I only use my Switch docked, the OLED is just not for me. We already have 2 launch Switches and 2 Switch Lite in the household and that is plenty for the 2 of us.
Finally a handheld console with OLED like the original ps vita. Still hoping to see a new ps vita
The vita was so ahead of its time.
@@theakiwar9118 fr
@@theakiwar9118 whenever I see or hold a switch and wiiu they really remind me of the vita
I also hope so, if that happens I will take the latest PlayStation handheld instead of taking the PS4 and PS5 with a note that Sony has started to clean up with its newest handheld.
I miss my Vita🥺
I was saving for OLED, but now I'm leaning towards the Steam Deck
I’m buying a Steam Deck too….. after it fails and they’re on sale for $100.
@@gimpinmypants good luck with that. It will most likely be the other way around and get scalped
@@gimpinmypants steam deck uses an 800p screen. Overpriced. 2hr battery. The series s is more powerful. Just get a next gen system
@@AniviaS I’m thinking 3 years ahead when the Steam Deck fails. It’s another PSVita. It’ll have a dedicated but small user base. The storage and battery life are going to be the biggest problems for the Steam Deck. So many companies have introduced a fancier handheld to the market and they’ve all learned hard and expensive lessons. Now it’s Valve’s turn.
@@mikeuk666 well, if you want a portable console, is the switch or the steam deck, the other consoles need a monitor, speakers, controllers, a desk or a table, is not for the same people those two different ideas
I DID notice tho in your teardown that the metal housing of the Analog Sticks appears to have a bit of metal that sticks out just a smidge from the base, which probably applies a slight bit more pressure to them which might help to prevent the Drift issue. This was not present in the old original analog sticks. That might be what they're talking about when they mention using improved parts.
The brightness seems lower for the OLED version in this video, but my personal experience (I own both) is that the OLED Switch is a lot (!) brighter than the LCD version, but you have to turn off auto-brightness. Especially in daylight situations it is a significant difference.
Having purchased one on launch day, it's honestly a really nice system. Internals aside, almost everything has been upgraded, and playing games in handheld mode look amazing. Basically, like every reviewer that went out and bought 4 of these on launch day has said, if you have a regular switch that's still functioning perfectly, or even a switch lite, there's really no need to upgrade to the OLED model.
If you DON'T have a switch or switch lite, and you want the docking feature, then you can either get the switch OLED, or get a regular switch if you don't really care about the upgraded screen and put that extra $50 on a pro controller and/or some extra accessories for it. Really just depends on how much you're going to play in handheld mode, cause if you're mostly using it in docked mode, then save yourself the money and get a regular switch.
However, if you're like me, and your switch isn't doing so hot, then it could be a decent opportunity to trade your old switch in and get the OLED model. My switch's fan was sounding like an electric toothbrush after 3 years, so I either had to get a new one, or fix the fan. If you're willing to trade in your current switch for the OLED model, you'll practically be getting it for $100 after trading it in, which isn't a bad deal imo.
You won’t get 250 for your old switch in trade in LOL
@@Alexander_l322 If you have a hackable switch, people are willing to buy it for around $250-300. I was thinking about doing it but I got the switch OLED and am gifting the hackable switch.
@@jo54763 you have a treasure in your hand don't sell it
@@Alexander_l322 I sold my Old Switch for 300 on ebay, actually 350 with accessories included. Became 315 after shipping and ebay fees. Only morons go to Gamestop to get value for their consoles.
I'm sure this has been said before, but the quality of your camera equipment is a pretty huge step up over every other TH-cam video I've seen.
Indeed
Same with My life in gaming. Superb video quality.
@@yvind786 Game Sack, Strafe Fox, those are another two I can think of off the top of my head. Dunno how much SF use cameras or 3D models but still.
I'm good with my hacked original switch. Got it used at a flea market for 150 3 years ago, still running strong.
I couldn't really see a use for the OLED screen when it launched since I'm mostly homebound nowadays. I do primarily play in Handheld mode, like the WiiU, out of convenience but I'd rather hook the thing up to my TV for a screen improvement. Hearing about the Ethernet Speeds is a big bummer to me. It was the one thing I was excited about since it would have meant less clutter with adapters.
I've had a Switch for over 3 years and aside from the day I took it out of the box I've never once used it in handheld mode. No reason to upgrade for a screen I'll never use and an Ethernet port that is nice, but isn't worth paying $350 for.
And for me I’ve never hooked mine up to the tv. Maybe they should just make a handheld and a proper console separately like they originally had.
I had a launch edition switch and happily bought OLED since I play primarily handheld and the bigger screen, better colors and battery life have been worth it for me. Absolutely loving it so far.
I've seen on other reviews that the joycons seem to hold in more securely for hand held mode. Do you feel the same way?
It sounds like the joycon drift problem fix is theoretically "improved parts" so they last just long enough for the warranty to run out since I know they lost a lot of money having to repair/replace the ones that were under warranty.
Of course why I not suprise Nintendo also hate Right to Repair act 😒.
Fixing the joycon drift would be easy, and its not “improved parts”. The metal part on the back of the analog sticks slowly bends with usage, and that is the primary cause of the drift, as the components inside no longer make proper contact. The fix if you’re experiencing joycon drift is to shove a thin piece of plastic between the stick and the hull. The fix nintendo should implement is to just add a bit more plastic to tbe mould, though i suspect they would have problems in assembly due to low tolerances.
The only way better parts can fix joycon drift is if they seriously increase the thickness of metal plate on the analog sticks, for which there isn’t enough room inside the joycons.
@@bhirawamaylana466 Nintendo actually cares enough to repair things but what law says businesses have to repair consumers products instead of making them buy new ones?
@@bhirawamaylana466 I'm sure Nintendo doesn't like right to repair all too much, yet they still make it pretty damn easy to fix their products.
After using my friends older switch and my OLED, I can definitely warrant an upgrade. $50 extra gets you a nicer, bigger screen and a MUCH better kickstand, as well as a little more storage if you end up not buying a micro SD. I play handheld a lot, so it was a no brainer for me.
Who doesn't own a Micro SD? 50$ for OLED is robbery it shouldn't be a different model, they should have just upgraded the Switch into this one. Nintendo is greedy and their fans will justify paying for anything, just look at the joke that is their online service.
I've jumped into the OLED whilst owning a gen 2 Switch (with better battery life). I sold this Switch to a friend of mine, so that comforted me to do the upgrade.
Zero regrets. I play handhed and on the TV more or less 50-50.
Had the Lite, so the upgrade was absolutely worth it for me. It’s like night and day. For normal or model 2 Switch owners..maybe not. Traded my Lite as well as my OG 500gb PS4 with 2 controllers, since I have a PS5. The OLED was basically free for trading in consoles I won’t use anymore.
Also thanks for showing some Vita love.
One thing that doesn't seem to be getting much attention is the fact it is a glass panel instead of plastic - that to me is a massive upgrade
The Switch OLED seems like a non-starter for those of us who mostly play ours docked. The inclusion of an ethernet port on the dock is welcome, though, and it looks like battery life got a boost. As for DL speeds, I'm sure Nintendo's got bandwidth caps set up on all their users' network sessions, so the USB v2 vs v3 issue doesn't really matter. Not that that's a valid excuse.
Excellent work, well spoken.
You swapped bits and bytes :) We will see if the OLED screen has burn in problems or not. But maybe with newer generations of OLES screens that problem is not so drastic.
It's a symptom of the technology and won't go away because the diode itself is something that wears out.
OLED burn in is the wrong term because it's not burn in, it's more like burn out. Because the diode gets weaker over time, that's what causes the image persistence unlike LCDs where the image is actually burned into the liquid crystal.
I bet it has same destiny as Vita with it's OLED. Burn in!
There's TH-camrs that have already had theirs on a frozen screen for over a week with no burn in. I think the average user will be fine. There's been over 10 years of improvements on OLED technology since the Vita.
@@bryanx0317 Wishful thinking from the same company who refuses to fix Joycons because they profit from the sales of new sets. I still have my launch Vita and it has no screen problems though. I think it's more of an issue for people who play at max brightness, but my Vita literally blinds me if I do so.
@@bryanx0317 a week is hardly any measure of the screen resistance to burn out.
Even high end OLED TVs are getting burn in after months of use as a monitor. Just check LTT or Bernacules for examples of less than a year old OLED TVs with image persistence.
Get back after several months of use. Either there will be burn out or the OLED will be noticeably weaker.
I had the old, bad battery switch so I wanted to upgrade anyway. Yesterday I played for 2 hours on my oled model and my battery was still at 88%. I don't regret my purchase yet.
but the old battery might need to be replaced, but those times, supposedly it was only like 30% better at most, you are reporting way better times
Most people would rather just want to a new switch than replace their battery
@@arch1107 If they have the old switch it may be one of the RCM capable ones. I got the oled one and I'm going to turn my old one into a homebrew machine, can't wait to play some of my old PS1 titles with it.
@@IdiotRace lol, i can do that without a switch on any pc i have, not seeing the point of homebrew, the small screen and the joycons are not for everybody
i think i wouldn't bother with homebrew
@@arch1107 you are aware that the switch is portable, right?
Sure you have a decent desktop, but if you're on a train I don't think you're going to be using it
I just hope with the next Switch they change the design of the Joycons. I think by the time the Pro or Switch 2 comes out it'll be warranted.
It was warranted the moment they knew there was an issue with the design. How Nintendo has handled it is completely unacceptable.
Got my Switch “Aul-LED” model yesterday. The kickstand is the biggest selling point for me. Display is amazing. I let my games download overnight.
@man with a username on the OG one no, cause it was terrible. Unstable and stuck at one unusable angle. I used to use a separate switch stand. The new one I use everyday and work.
2:20 First mainstream handheld maybe, but I'm pretty sure the actual first handheld to use an OLED panel was the GP2X Wiz back in 2009.
Ahh good ol' GP2X
Great video! Just a small note: Mbps translates to megabits per second, not megabytes. That’d be MBps
I feel like he knows this and it was just a small blunder.
@@fonicmaxxim maybe so.
@@creepysmilingcarl9742 not really, uppercase letters means byte (B) and lowercase means bit (b)
Mbit/s and MB/s
@@creepysmilingcarl9742 not at all confusing. 8bit =1byte, its like being confused by centimeter and milimeter.
Hey MVG I'm a bit surprised you didn't bring up the speakers at all in the tear down and upgrades sections. Why?
When I got the OLED I hadn't intended to, my original due to bad design on nvidia/nintendo part heat (it has been in the open, not in a cabinet) created the typical nvidia shield tablet corner/heat vent cracks, and I was starting to hit a rate where I knew it I was going to have issues. I grabbed the OLED, transferred my account, and when I had the chance before selling the tablet piece alone to a friend as he wanted to work on it, I compared things as you did. Sure the OLED pops, that stand is as every bit as amazing as you said too, it's a nice premium solid device... but what caught me as much as the screen, the SOUND. Those are not only improved quality speakers, but improved quality placement (direction) of them too. Side by side I fired up the same came and wow, the old Switch oddly sounded muffled compared with the smaller earlier downward facing speakers. The larger ones, maybe better quality(?) but facing forward made the audio cleaner, clearer, and louder, it was a huge difference. If you're someone to play this in hand or on stand, you will notice and largely appreciate the enhanced quality.
@Modern Vintage Gamer
I actually buy the Switch V2 (red box) months before the Switch OLED because of what I heard from other TH-camrs discussing that OLED wont be that great upgrade in Switch because I am dumb enough to believe them but after the release day of Switch OLED the very same TH-camrs they said it was a huge upgrade from Lite and V2 and now I am thinking did I do the right thing buying the V2 before the OLED release...? also how huge really the difference between the IPS LCD and OLED in terms of visual...? I am a handheld player for about 70-80% because of work...!
MVG: Complains about a 27 gig game taking 4 hours to download
Me with an average Internet connection speed of 0.5MB up and down: ._.
Haha first thing I thought. First world problems...
@@xCARPx2014 It's easy to overlook things. You must live in a place that has caused your eyes to open a little bit wider. I wish you the best.
yep, was thinking the same :)
Damn, I get 100kb/s
I wonder if the Ethernet issue could be fixed with a firmware update of some sort to enable USB 3 speeds at least
Enabling USB 3.0 on the dock is something they said they'd do later, even at launch, it's just not been followed up on, at least not yet.
Game companies have release multiple “minor change same thing” systems in each generation so I’m not really sure what all the backlash is, especially for only an extra $50 over the regular model. I have a V2 switch I got maybe 2 years ago and I’m eager to trade this one in for an OLED, I primarily use my switch in handheld mode so I’m looking forward to the bigger screen and upgraded internal space.
What they need to do is release a standard size unibody switch like the lite, I think I’m about to snap by joycons off the base off of these days lol
If you have a switch already, it's a complete waste of money. For $50 your getting $10 worth of upgrades if that.
If you haven't bought a switch yet? It's still overpriced for the technology they are offering in 2021. But still worth it because of the first party games.
I mean the screen barely beats the vita which is from 2013.... its 2021. We should be playing on a 900p -1080p oled screen by now.
720p oled is an old technology for basically a tablet. for $50 more you get very minor changes which is not worth it all. people who have never use an oled panel and fast Ethernet speed might think it's worth it but by current standard it should be 1080p oled panel.
oh I almost forgot to mention.. we are in deep Nintendo's monopoly right now.
@@Andy-hi9do please tell me where i can find an oled screen, 32 gb extra of storage, a better kickstand, metal frame for the screen and a lan wireless adaptor for 10 bucks.
cuz rn you sound full of bullshit with that statement of just getting $10 worth of upgrades andy.
@@freezeframeplease when you mass produce it. It's very much $10 worth of upgrades.
What? you really think that old 720p oled technology cost money these days???? $100 tablets have better screen technology in 2021. Probably cost $3 a screen, $5 at most for a company like Nintendo.
As someone who worked in the auto industry who seen the process of making tool dies to punch out car parts. I can tell you the mold dies for the new Nintendo metal case, stand, and dock probably costed around $15,000 a pop and another $1,500 to maintain. Probably under $1 to produce them.... same goes for the ethernet port. and the extra storage on the same old motherboard?? That's where your extra $4-7 are at, your not getting a 120GB of the latest storage tech, so trust me it's not much more money lol calm down. Ultimately I might off a few bucks and it's really $15 total. But I can assure you, your not paying for $50 with of "upgrades". Seeing how the LCD systems are flying off the shelf at $300. I can guarantee you if they priced this "new" system at $300 they would still be making a profit... But why do that when they have people willing to spend another $350 for the same tech.
The only thing that's "full of bullshit" is your financial skills if you ask me, if you want to buy a polished turd by all means I won't stop you, bc that's exactly what Nintendo is trying to sell you.
@@Andy-hi9do of course production wise is gonna be cheaper. everybody knows that companies don’t spent shit on selling expensive things. but the only fair way possible to see upgrades in their production cost prices is when you’re the one implementing the upgrades. of course the technology is going to be cheaper for nintendo, but average people is not going to buy an oled screen and better joysticks to replace them themselves. maybe you have experience on modding or building things from scratch, but average switch users are not going to upgrade their switches themselves to an oled even if nintendo sell the parts at a low production price. maybe you and me yes idk, i’ve nodded consoles before and for what i’m
reading maybe you too, but for the physical quality of life upgrades like, not having to buy an extra sd card in some cases, or not having to buy a damn lan adapter, not having to buy some case with a better kickstand cuz the og switch one sucks, and sorry if i’m repeating but these accessories are not easily available at a bulk/cheap price. this switch is clearly a move to give the people who don’t own a switch the chance of a better switch at a not so of a bs price
I'm still pretty happy with my regular model Switch.
the switch shouldnt even be the price it is now
As long as people buy it there is no reason for Nintendo to lower the prices. If you ask me, I wouldn't pay more than $150 for the hardware.
However, what people tend to forget is that Nintendo isn't a charity, even when they market themself as the "good child friendly console" compared to Sony and Microsoft.
The price depends on the demand and not the sum of components.
For example even if they sell Metroid Dread at $100 the demand would still be high.
It's the power of the brand over a consumer self-respect.
Supply and demand. The Switch has sold almost 90 million units and the OLED is going to get it over 100 million.
Why?
@@user-dm9fx9qn8c because some consumers have self-respect and different tastes in games thus different opinion ))) But the power of Nintendo brand is still high they could sell their Switch at the price of the top iPhone and most consumers would defend that decision.
I'll just save a lil bit longer, and emulate the Switch on a Steam Deck. 👌
Emulators are buggy
The steam deck 720p
@@yarc9 Dread runs perfectly from what I saw. Can you provide some proofs? Because Yuzu evolves constatntly.
The real Switch Pro lmao
lol, alot of people will do that
Love the Windjammers t-shirt! :)
I've had some issues with my joy cons (Red/Blue version of the OLED) have an instance where the thumbstick wouldn't move over to make a selection, and also seemed to have connectivity issue when changing the set up. Had a notice pop up to change the grip order. Have them out for repair. Hopefully fixes the issues.