The Gift Economy | Daniel Suelo | TEDxGrandJunction
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ส.ค. 2024
- Our commerce has domesticated not only our plants and animals to be perpetually immature, dependent on outward authority, stripped of the right to adulthood (self-rule), but it has also domesticated ourselves to be perpetually immature, dependent on outward authority, stripped of the right to adulthood (self-rule). Daniel Suelo has spent almost 20 years living without money. Modern life presents enough challenges with money, it's easy to imagine that the challenges increase as finances decrease. However, Daniel has found that a comfortable existence is possible even without money and many of the troubles inherent to modern life simply disappear in the absence of currency. This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at www.ted.com/tedx
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TED didn't recorded it well. but idea of Mr. Suelo is magnificent.
There was more wisdom in this than I expected. When I first read your name in Tomi Astikainen's book "Rich Without Money" my intuition just told me to trust you immediately. Good thing I looked this up.
Life without money - is real Freedom! But how, how, how? Let's teach each other!
I'd also love to learn more. Let's share!!
Its not hard start with giving some of what you create
The solution is simple: We all share what we got with everyone for free.
Gift Economy is profoundly different than the society we live in now
You've come a long way Daniel, thank you for the encouragement.
I'm so happy he made it to Ted
The love of power and money is the result of the world we live in now. We are manipulated every day and we not even know it because we are not supposed to know it. Some of us do not want to listen to thinkers like Daniel because we are worried about how we are going to make it daily and it may not make sense speeches like this, for some of us. We are part of nature and nature is part of us. The the different between animals and humans is selfishness and the control we desire to have over others to benefit ourselves.
Daniel Suelo for president
This is perfect sir our community has created a center using this model it’s beautiful.Thank you so much for this awareness! We will show at the canter today !
Great man, nice son ,looking after his mother
To put it simple: He wants everything to be free. And that is the only way to go if we want to make this world a better place to live.
Thank you, Suelo
Why doesnt this have BILLIONS of views?
Thank you.
Wonderful. Thank you.
19k views, 4 yrs... YT buried this one. :-/
awesome!
interesting guy and I can understand his life choices
So few views, so few likes!!
Extraordinary.
Hard to see the overheads, frustrating
@Ralph Furley yes, I've never heard a Ted talk with such poor sound quality :-/
I love Daniel
Great points. I do believe in linear religion and believe there was a Fall. But I'm not sure how it all works.
He is a preacher.
Geeeeeeniiiuuuuuussssss
If you put money on a table it does nothing but be.
I wish there wasn't such a spiritual slant to this lecture. I would like to hear more about conceptualizing how an alternative gift economy could provide us with an equivalent way of life to what we experience today, a concept I think that would be necessary to convince the majority population that this kind of idea is viable.
This journey is a spiritual one.
@@kroneexe whether or not that is the case, it must be communicable. the secular language of the status quo must be met in kind.
Lev 19:27 'You shall not round off the side-growth of your heads nor harm the edges of your beard.
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There is a distinction that Daniel didn't make between taking and receiving. They are two different things.
Very good point. No, it's something important I've never really addressed. Something to think more about and address. Thanks, charmerci.
To me, you can "take" a gift, i.e. feel you have a right, be unappreciative, greedy etc, or receive one, i.e. be appreciative of the person's thoughtfulness, kindness, etc.
Yes, that's an excellent observation,@@charmerci . It reminds me of Daniel Quinn's "takers and leavers" in his book "Ishmael." We can take it a step further and say the leavers are also the receivers. And the takers are not the leavers but the wasters.
when you understand Nature, than you see, that GIVING & LEAVING etc. are all the same. Nature doesn't need the Definitions of Scientists. Nature is one Cycle, and we can be a part of it. ;) - so TAKING & RECIEVING becomme also the same thing :)
The only difference is attitude
Daniel's saying man mind-fucks.
You can't build and run a modern economy on a "gift economy".
Very true. And this is why a modern economy is so obviously, completely unsustainable and so blatantly destructive to the moneyless wild nature it completely depends upon.
You can't have decency in a "civilized" society. Do you think the current system is any betteŕ, or that voting will do something next time?
I admire this guy watched and read a lot about him but what he’s proposing is impossible. Nobody would work if it wasn’t for money that’s the number 1 motivation for people to work whether your a doctor or a labourer. When Daniel was living without money the only reason he survived was because of the food people had thrown out in bins which they had originally bought using money. It’s a sad thing to say but there’s only 2 things that are more important than money and that’s your health and your family’s health imo.
i don't know, it may seem too idealistic but i would like to believe that there is potential for a world where people would do actual productive work just out of the desire to do work that fulfills them. because even when they do get paid, isn't some of the best work in the world done by people who intensely love and care for their work regardless of money? that would lead me to conclude that, even though it is seemingly so integrated in the status quo, money has no net effect on the equation here. because it is, in the end, an illusion.
i also find it funny that a system that encourages people to throw away perfectly edible food is so widely accepted and seen as normal. like, of course Suelo survived on food that people had thrown out, that's just a matter of adapting to the environment. he argues that a world with no money would be more ideal, but that's not the world we live in right now. the question isn't whether he could have survived without food that people bought with money and then threw away, it's why we have a system where we throw away 30 - 40 percent of our entire food supply every year.
and the reason is painfully simple. that 30 - 40 percent does not produce any profits, because people either just don't buy them, or can't afford to. under the current system, we would rather make food and throw it away than feed those who cannot pay for it. because in the capitalist bible, the profit motive is above all; it's above individuality, it's above health, and it's above life.
Garage sales and tossing perfectly good food out are proof even people who make money don't value it. If their minds change, suddenly an item has different or lesser worth! So all it takes is a switch of thought? Hmm...It takes two or more people to agree on the belief called money. Anyway, every spirituality emphasizes giving up materialism or expectation of reward: the bible and gita are two major scriptures that say this and are 3000 years apart.
A lot to think about. I think we each have to weigh how much freedom we need and to what degree we can work without pay, and do some of that each day. @@neitgeist1
Oh Daniel I know you can clearly see the earth is flat immovable plain just as described in the scriptures.
Where is this quote in scriptures?
@@RonWrightwrites read the scriptures, start in the beginning.
@@stjo4756 does not answer my question.. You might be mistaken. Besides, scriptures are dead documents; of little use to living beings.
@@RonWrightwrites those that don't believe in the Messiah Yahusha (Jesus)and follow the Torah are already dead.
Man, you're so cool and edgy! What a thinker!
Daniel ignores the effects of the fall of Adam and the fact that Satan is the god of this world. Come lord Jesus!
neogovernment No, he’s simply not a crackpot.
Hmm, that's odd. Basically the fall from Grace (Gratis) and the very obvious effects of that fall are the very theme of this talk. Maybe you had a computer glitch and are commenting on a different video you watched?