Dr Lupo’s Commander Deck Is Poggers! | Shuffle Up & Play 54 | Magic The Gathering Gameplay

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  • DrLupo come to play Commander under the condition that I use one of his decks. Join Ashlizzle and Nile Joan Rivers for a game that is totally poggers.
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  • @TolarianCommunityCollege
    @TolarianCommunityCollege  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +98

    Did you miss our Canadian Highlander episode of Shuffle Up with Ben Wheeler, Serge from LRR, and Pascal Maynard? Check it out here: th-cam.com/video/-adOmMegMQc/w-d-xo.html

    • @j453
      @j453 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Prof, I like ya, but screw you man. I don't play helldivers, i don't play video games even at this point but i would just tell someone i don't care about your game. You would care if it was wotc ruining mtg. Oh wait...

    • @Spoodabandit
      @Spoodabandit 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I hope to see one day a game where everyone builds a deck and trades them between each other but you all roll for highest then pick which deck you want besides the one you built

  • @RoninRose541
    @RoninRose541 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1332

    As a Tomb Raider fanboy I feel the need to to let everyone know that Lara Croft does indeed have a PhD in Archaeology and Comparative Mythology from Oxford.

    • @halcyon6098
      @halcyon6098 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

      Yup. She's an accomplished Woman.

    • @dragonmaster1601
      @dragonmaster1601 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      It was mentioned in the new tomb raider games 👍

    • @thelegendofbardock3816
      @thelegendofbardock3816 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Correct as a fan i can also confirm.

    • @ZoidbergForPresident
      @ZoidbergForPresident 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@dragonmaster1601 It's a reboot though... what about the original Lara? :D

    • @ZETA14.88
      @ZETA14.88 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      @@ZoidbergForPresident the original Lara went to finishing school. They mostly teach about etiquette, language, history, and practical skills demanded by high class young women. She skipped higher education entirely and went archeology expedition early

  • @samtrue3
    @samtrue3 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +909

    From "screw the initiative" to "you are not getting it back"

    • @TolarianCommunityCollege
      @TolarianCommunityCollege  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +306

      Turns out is is pretty good, but you'll never hear me admitting it! ;p

    • @tylerabrams8063
      @tylerabrams8063 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

      @@TolarianCommunityCollege im waiting for Vince to come charging into the comments :D

    • @ThrashMetallix
      @ThrashMetallix 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      ​@TolarianCommunityCollege I kept saying "I'm so proud of you" this video when you advanced.

    • @lotrloreman
      @lotrloreman 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      I'm telling Vince that you love initiative

    • @filippomilan2656
      @filippomilan2656 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Character development

  • @dealinoutdevon5498
    @dealinoutdevon5498 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +334

    Someone should have told Lupo and the professor that this was 2 headed giant.

    • @flanbeau
      @flanbeau 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      One of the giant kept headbutting himself, probably ogre magi, which is a gamer reference.

    • @tarvox14
      @tarvox14 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

      Honestly the most frustrating part of the episode for me, so much talk about threat assesment while completely ignoring half the table 😐

    • @jacobisbell9388
      @jacobisbell9388 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      @@tarvox14 Literally the first time they said "we know threat assessement" was to have Prof attack Lupo instead of Ash, because his commander is scary I guess? But on the board Ash had her priest of the forgotten gods, making Lupos board basically nothing, on top of having more life than Lupo, but still he's the threat

    • @29aoutmusic
      @29aoutmusic หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Never listen to sacrifice players

    • @Fishmeaker
      @Fishmeaker 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      So I am not the only one seeing that…
      Tbh the girls are very arrogant imao

  • @jarzz3601
    @jarzz3601 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +541

    the professors complete inability to give half a fuck about helldivers 2 is great :D

  • @eduardoramirezjr1892
    @eduardoramirezjr1892 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +400

    Plays 1 Commander Game. Brings 15 Commander Decks. this DrLupo is of my people.

    • @williambrown5934
      @williambrown5934 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      DrLupo has a “Seven tools of the bandit” sort of way of thinking- be ready for anything lol. Always nice to have options, plus if you KNOW an opponent is playing a deck that has cards that block or stop incursion you can know what lovely masterpieces not to play to avoid someone playing a counter to it deck lol 😆 The cleaver player comes prepared- 😎 but 15 decks and never played commander before… *I feel that says* he has WAY too much free time… 🤭

    • @Logan_MZR
      @Logan_MZR 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I’m replying with a 👍 because I don’t wanna wreck the 69 likes 😂

    • @bradsimpson8724
      @bradsimpson8724 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I specifically bought a bag that will fit twelve deck boxes for the rare occasions that I go looking for a game outside my own rec room - one deck in each two-colour combination, one for dice, and one for tokens and counters and such.

  • @Ghostintheishi
    @Ghostintheishi 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +96

    I love this two headed Giant game where one is just sack black and the other keeps punching itself in the face.

    • @daniellewis1789
      @daniellewis1789 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Exactly the same threat assessment as most casual tables - you hit me, I'll hit you back. If you want cEDH, watch something else. If you want an observer's seat at a kitchen table, this is great content.

    • @Ghostintheishi
      @Ghostintheishi 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@daniellewis1789 uhh cool?? Unless your offended i shared my opinion of the game, your comment was unwarranted. I love the channel... so that's a thing.

    • @franklesisabella2942
      @franklesisabella2942 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@Ghostintheishi This episode could have been so much better if that couple weren't on it. Was boring. imo - loved the Prof and Dr. as always.

    • @xxhellspawnedxx
      @xxhellspawnedxx หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@daniellewis1789 No, that's not what he's saying.
      It's just not great content, neither to watch or to participate in, when people aren't playing by the same rule book. Most of this game was essentially a three player game, except one of them had twice the turns, twice the cards and twice the mana.
      I've had this happen to me at an LGS. Not a great experience, I have to say. It sort of low-key says: "We want to play at this table, but not against you". It abjectly sucks to sit across from.

    • @daniellewis1789
      @daniellewis1789 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@franklesisabella2942 Honestly watching a very typical casual table - they aren't playing optimally, they're making interesting board states happen and having fun - is what I watch this channel for. If you want a totally balanced tier Commander game, watch a competitive channel for it?
      Or accept that people playing casually play like casuals, and that's okay.

  • @jalbor
    @jalbor 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +160

    Feels a bit more like two-headed giant. Probably should have actually committed to helping each other, lol.

    • @camoking3609
      @camoking3609 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      3 headed giant from that one Ghidora meme

  • @CentaurionArcher
    @CentaurionArcher 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +347

    Profs confusion at the start is something I can really empathise with hahaha
    My younger coworkers talk about things that make me feel like that

    • @CentaurionArcher
      @CentaurionArcher 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      I recall them frantically trying to explain Fanum Tax (?) to me at the last Christmas part... I still don't really get it

    • @clasherking4528
      @clasherking4528 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I'm 25 and still don't understand what in the theros underworld they are talking about..... What IS poggers?

    • @williambrown5934
      @williambrown5934 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ⁠@@clasherking4528 the definition of *poggers: surprised or excited reaction to something.* Honestly, til I looked it up I had put my theory that it was a version of ‘crazy’ but something that goes beyond the normal realm… Like crazy to the tenth power 😅

    • @williambrown5934
      @williambrown5934 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@CentaurionArcherhuh, looked it up, simple definition of *Fanum Tax: An internet “slang term” describing the theft of food between friends*
      Originally coined by American *streamer* Fanum, the term has become an internet meme, particularly by Generation Alpha.
      The full listed definition on the net lol 😂

    • @casteanpreswyn7528
      @casteanpreswyn7528 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@CentaurionArcher is it weird I don't know what that is, but I know what Biboo Tax is? Lol

  • @TheForeverRanger
    @TheForeverRanger 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +110

    Lupo and Prof's interactions are so awesome. If you have seen their Commander at Home episode, this is just the tip of the iceberg.

  • @ethanr1247
    @ethanr1247 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +275

    For all the talk of threat assessment, the pod let the player who was actually the threat dictate all the plays. Never let someone control the game like that through politics; take them out swiftly because it shows they have hidden plans. I knew from twenty minutes in who would win purely because of that.

    • @MrDegan2
      @MrDegan2 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +89

      it was wild to watch her draw like 7 cards from braids, and still apparently be considered safe to negotiate with.

    • @eggbinary
      @eggbinary 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +75

      ​@MrDegan2 it was so frustrating, it felt like nobody's deck got to do anything because nobody was actually dealing with the problem

    • @sirmk8873
      @sirmk8873 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +69

      I’m so glad I wasn’t the only one who felt this way watching it. I could feel myself cringing every time she brought up being a pro at threat assessment.

    • @unanon_user
      @unanon_user 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      isn't that true...

    • @indigova
      @indigova 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

      I was actually getting angry at them for just letting her runaway with it

  • @Azeria
    @Azeria 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +375

    Pogger Up and Play

    • @williamaldred335
      @williamaldred335 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      That is a horrible joke, take my like

    • @ChillingWithChu
      @ChillingWithChu 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Pogger up and Slay

    • @Azeria
      @Azeria 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@ChillingWithChu hell yeah

    • @williambrown5934
      @williambrown5934 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Magic the gathering could be often described as the embodiment of “poggers”…
      Though even though I like & will play Magic, like YuGiOh, is broken with the madness you can do with a deck built right… When/ if you choose to play to win and care nothing about if others can still ‘enjoy’ the game playing against such a deck…

    • @joshrivet4011
      @joshrivet4011 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Shuffle up and Pog.

  • @rednite__8427
    @rednite__8427 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +152

    The Helldivers intro killed me lmfao that was hilarious

    • @avtv71
      @avtv71 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Correction, they stopped offering Helldiver's 2 in those countries

    • @edwardking9359
      @edwardking9359 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@avtv71 They did in fact do that, but it also blocked access to everyone in those countries that had already bought the game.

  • @KillSecureSona
    @KillSecureSona 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +173

    Sounds like Prof needs a piping hot cup of Liber-tea

  • @rexemjyrexemjy3211
    @rexemjyrexemjy3211 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

    18:07 must be the consequence of Prof winning the last Commander Shuffle Up & Play. The Universe tries to prevent it from ever happening again.

  • @fortniteguytheguyfromfortnite
    @fortniteguytheguyfromfortnite 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +161

    'i will open my heart to poggers'
    😂😂😂😂😂

    • @Mullinsakamullins
      @Mullinsakamullins 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Someone please make this a meme!

    • @poggerinreal
      @poggerinreal 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      im honored tbh

  • @afhaalfiets
    @afhaalfiets 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +116

    I kinda think threat assessment wasn't done correctly, While Nile kept pointing to others she was controlling the whole game. It felt a bit worse to see a 2 v 1 v1

    • @camoking3609
      @camoking3609 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

      Lying about threat assesment when you are indeed the threat is still a valid stratagy

    • @sirmk8873
      @sirmk8873 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Or just controlling the entire game with it.

    • @thatepicwizardguy
      @thatepicwizardguy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      honestly yeah. the others were so dumb to get tricked by that when it was very obvious how dangerous nile was just with how you knew the deck was sure to be constructed. I woulda been gunning them down ASAP

    • @IamPandaSteve
      @IamPandaSteve 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      I agree, I didn't like the style of gameplay by Nile.

    • @deviousalemanni4235
      @deviousalemanni4235 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​​@@thatepicwizardguy and it would have worked too

  • @bryanstrahm9961
    @bryanstrahm9961 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    The game pretty much immediately became two-headed dragon, except 1 team kept sniping each other instead of the enemy team.

  • @DrkNinja_
    @DrkNinja_ 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Also I do genuinely feel like both of the "comp" players refused to target each other basically all game... They even shared information between each other the whole time... it's a little crappy.

    • @JosePineda-jn8jk
      @JosePineda-jn8jk 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Wait so a game where they say you can make any sort of alliances you want and then someone does it is bad?

    • @DrkNinja_
      @DrkNinja_ 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@JosePineda-jn8jk When you have two casual players and two comp players; Yea I'd say so.

    • @JosePineda-jn8jk
      @JosePineda-jn8jk 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@DrkNinja_ I mean prof knows who he is inviting 😆 some people are just too sensitive I guess 🤷🏽‍♂️

    • @mcNuggetMuncher
      @mcNuggetMuncher 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You really think the professor knows less about mtg then 2 gothic girls 😂 any one can call themselves a comp player​@DrkNinja_

  • @unraveki
    @unraveki 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    Nice 2v1v1, makes the win feel really deserving

  • @gazza4589
    @gazza4589 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    Lupo didn't violate the alliance. He didn't attack you. That was the deal. I see nothing wrong here Mr. "Attack him, get the initiative, then agree to no more attacks." lol

    • @unanon_user
      @unanon_user 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      let me put it to you in this scenario. let's say two countries are involved in a war and another gets hit by their collateral damage. it is natural that that third country would consider the collateral damage as an attack.
      thus, the good doctor must certainly did attack the professor... no very indirectly. indirectly not, it is still an attack.
      The professor however should have simply forgave and forgot. The doctor could have been a good ally, at least for the moment. it was the unity of the women that was their greatest strength and weakness of the two fighting men.

  • @buddadragonmtg4848
    @buddadragonmtg4848 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

    Well this was basically two headed giant against two people. Honestly made gameplay a little rough to watch.

  • @eddric
    @eddric 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

    4 super villians just got their origin stories from breaking "contracts"

  • @darebrained
    @darebrained 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    Maybe it's just me, maybe it's her deck, but all Nile seemingly did was just preventing cool things from happening while Ash was profiting off her not being able to turn her head 90°.
    I hope this isn't taken personally - I don't know her as a person. I just can talk about what I was watching here.

    • @franklesisabella2942
      @franklesisabella2942 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Couldn't agree more.

    • @bradsimpson8724
      @bradsimpson8724 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Yeah, this one was kind of an underwhelming. I gave up on this game when it was first uploaded, and am just circling back now.

  • @roeltoro
    @roeltoro 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

    This may be one of the harder episodes to watch. Not only did the decks not feel balanced. But it felt like 2 people were a team the whole time and the other two were just punching bags cause they were playing vs everyone instead of a team. 😬

  • @bookworm2442
    @bookworm2442 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    21:18 the censoring of the Director in the background made me replay it over and over, perfect sound editing!

  • @jasonmorley9217
    @jasonmorley9217 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +72

    The alliance was specifically a non-attack treaty; no violations occurred, until Prof decided to bully the good Doctor.

    • @deviousalemanni4235
      @deviousalemanni4235 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Agreed and the toxic deluge saved their ass too 😅

  • @drexciya8083
    @drexciya8083 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +151

    Professor zoning out to I don’t know what the Helldivers 2 that was is the Shuffle Up content I crave.

    • @yes.thatjanedoe
      @yes.thatjanedoe 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I thought TH-cam changed video on me for a sec

    • @orvar7035
      @orvar7035 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Should have left in the whole ten minutes of him zoning out

  • @homebrewed
    @homebrewed 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    This was a great two-headed giant episode, when is commander being played next? ;)

  • @gallicancourier5035
    @gallicancourier5035 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    I love that, since Prof never played the original Fallouts, he doesn't even know his Tragic: The Gathering joke is in Fallout

  • @DragonmasterSK
    @DragonmasterSK 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    I love Ashlizzle's accent and how she just brought mono black classics. I was laughing so hard when Prof did the Bugs Bunny joke 😂😂😂 I can't believe the rest didn't burst out laughing

  • @user-kq2oh2ks7p
    @user-kq2oh2ks7p 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

    Ashlizzlle didn’t grasp the fact that there are more opponents than just who is across her 😂

    • @unanon_user
      @unanon_user 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      imagine if Samson had been a commander player... I feel like his game would have went a lot like this one.

    • @mr.wafflesrz1137
      @mr.wafflesrz1137 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      She should've killed Mayhem devil instead of Kroxa

  • @noise.s
    @noise.s 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +73

    Prof's proposed olive branch was "let's stop attacking each other", they shaked on that. Prof broke the deal

    • @atk9989
      @atk9989 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      They shook on a temp alliance, killing the commander of a ally is a break of that. If the goal was to knock the other 2 down then nah Lupo broke it first. If Lara hadn't died once before he might have made her have it.

    • @MrDegan2
      @MrDegan2 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@atk9989 while that might be the spirit of the agreement, the wording was "lets stop attacking each other" and that's what they shook on. Lupo never broke that deal, even later on when he really should have to get back the initiative with Obeka, the only person who reneged on a deal here was the prof.

    • @RaineAshe
      @RaineAshe หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@MrDegan2 and then right after that in the very next breath he says remporary alliance in those exact words. He broke it.

  • @unseeliedream42
    @unseeliedream42 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    and that is why, Ladies and Gentlemen, you never-ever let a Mayhem Devil resolve. >.>

  • @calebm1827
    @calebm1827 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I don’t think I’ve ever watched a video with prof or lupo that I didn’t entirely enjoy. I get alliances and politics but this really was a 2v1v1

  • @xSling0x
    @xSling0x 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +60

    Lupo being on all my favorite magic shows is putting the biggest smile on my face. I’m so happy to see my fav streamer with my favorite magic personalities

  • @treebyful
    @treebyful หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    really seemed like a team of 2 vs two single players. Feel bad for prof and Lupo

  • @jamesaditya5254
    @jamesaditya5254 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    Only Prof could fumble an updog joke into a funnier, more endearing joke

  • @none-vr6vr
    @none-vr6vr 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +94

    so cool seeing Ashlizzle in a commander format, awesome episode :)

    • @cpugwash7085
      @cpugwash7085 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      She's been in quite a few episodes of The Worst Possible Commander Show recently too, in case you're unaware.

    • @JoseSanchez-cq9rg
      @JoseSanchez-cq9rg 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      I really like Ash but damn did she misplay by letting that Mayhem devil live. It cost her the game

    • @JohnSmith-vk9ds
      @JohnSmith-vk9ds 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@JoseSanchez-cq9rg Yeah at the tables where I regularly play, Mayhem Devil is pretty much a kill-on-sight regardless of the context.

    • @JoseSanchez-cq9rg
      @JoseSanchez-cq9rg 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@JohnSmith-vk9ds Specially if your deck is also a sacrifice deck. The ONLY reason to let it live is if you have removal in your hand, but even then you just let it live for a short while. There is no way Ash could win 1v1 if Nile has the devil on board, and Ash is a good player so she should know that too.

  • @1elfafa
    @1elfafa 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Oh my god, thanks for inviting Ash! Love her❤️

  • @montyk4834
    @montyk4834 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    The way my jaw DROPPED at how fast Prof agreed to attack Lupo, I'm dead

  • @demeyesoftheuniverse8170
    @demeyesoftheuniverse8170 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    This is the most interesting game of Two Headed Giant I have ever seen

  • @wolflol5390
    @wolflol5390 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    tell me why i already knew how this pod would end just from being at local lg's where couples team up till the have to kill eachother.

  • @CoolWhip125698
    @CoolWhip125698 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    the agreement: "Let's stop attacking each other as of right now."
    *gives each creature -6/-6*
    "You violated the alliance!"
    That is not in the agreement my guy, that was not a violation.

  • @sereenafarren3927
    @sereenafarren3927 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Ultimately, I don't think it matters whether or not Dr Lupo broke the deal - what matters is that he should never have made it. The Professor had the initiative, and Lup needed to take it back to get into the game. If the Prof decided to keep swinging into Lupo for the initiative, he'd have lost that race as Lupo's board was, at the time, bigger and more evasive. Professor had nothing he could meaningfully offer Lupo in exchange for nonaggression, and would only have hurt himself by continuing to steal the Initiative for value instead of focusing on the sacrifice decks that were triggering each other's synergies

  • @hyaciao
    @hyaciao 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    While the guests were great. I felt this was one of the furthest game from the spirit of commander and was pretty hard to watch as a shuffle up and play episodes. It was like watching a 2v1v1 on top of singleton without the commander part. While the professor and Dr.Lupos were trying to keep the commander on the board to show off the deck design by recasting/protection. After Ash and Nile lost their commander there's no attempt to bring it back or focus on their commander's idea. In fact they weren't even targeting each other from the beginning at all so it was clear the "commander politics" didn't matter and there weren't even much of it. The funniest part of the video was the prof and Dr.Lupo fighting over the initiative which is kind of saying something. It makes sense they are used to playing competitively but it didn't make for a fun viewing experience when you know one side of the side board clearly had all the threats. Even a non magic player could see there's more creature on one side and have more CARDS in the player hands.

    • @nilejoanrivers
      @nilejoanrivers 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Headline: greedy girl sacrifices a land to braids, immediately loses her 5 mana commander, struggles to find 7 mana after that 😅

    • @hyaciao
      @hyaciao 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@nilejoanrivers it would've be funny to ask for a deck shuffle by getting the land destroyed. That way another sacrifice could have been added to the stack. While playing some mega mind games.
      Again good game nonetheless, hopefully more semi competitive but clowning/jester rakdos commander decks in the future?

    • @joshlease7623
      @joshlease7623 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      The “commander politics” often resulted in a “you can’t gaslight us, we’re PROS, we KNOW how to assess threats”

  • @unforseenconsequense
    @unforseenconsequense 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Prof being ready to throw the game over the initiative is crazy. Also, keeping the initiative off your upkeep deck ally doesn't seem like an alliance

  • @lostmarble540
    @lostmarble540 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    the helldivers 2 incident is actually really relevant to mtg, it's a story of a big company doing something that pissed off its playerbase and then the players organized and retaliated and the company reversed its decision (sort of) (also steam offering refunds regardless of playtime and costing Sony a whole mess of money likely influenced Sony's decision)

  • @itsellysaurus
    @itsellysaurus 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    this felt like i was watching a 2v1v3 ngl lol

  • @Kaipo_Rozwolf
    @Kaipo_Rozwolf 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The Professor: "You play Magic online!"
    Ashlizzle: "Well, yes, but also no."

  • @strongaldweipemheiser
    @strongaldweipemheiser 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    it was actually painful watching Lupo and the Professor fight each other. The prof should have let Lupo hit for initiative and stop taking it from him. Lupo should have deluged for 5. They should have stopped swinging at each other as soon as possible ToT

  • @Orkimtor
    @Orkimtor 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    "I will leave you as alone as I am capable" - Proceeds to use everything possible on Prof. While breaking contracts is certainly a possible way to play, it does leave a sour taste in my mouth. Basically I would never make a deal with Nile again if I was in their position. Not in this game or any future games.

  • @XTempestBuster
    @XTempestBuster 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Seeing prof with the initiative is a whiplash, i wasn't prepared for it

  • @Nimblewright1992
    @Nimblewright1992 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Loving how the prof keeps saying “Laura” instead of “Lara” through the whole game

  • @kwilson20021
    @kwilson20021 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +66

    sure seems like the game was thrown at the end with the wrong target for eaten alive. Other than that, it was not fun watching to people team up against two solo players.

    • @soapy5365
      @soapy5365 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Agree, I was really excited to see a Lara deck being played so I could pick up some ideas for mine but teaming up from the start kinda ruined the game for me :/

  • @justicepunch8758
    @justicepunch8758 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    When the comment was made about "Imagine disrespecting your creatures enough to just throw them into the trash," I thought about it. Mono black has a lot of Zombies, Skeletons, and Vampires, so technically the GY is their home and it reminded me of the Happy Gilmore scene where he's yelling at the golf ball to go home.

  • @aR0ttenBANANA
    @aR0ttenBANANA 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    DrLupo and Ashlizzle are just speedrunning every mtg channel and tbh I’m down for it

  • @MrDegan2
    @MrDegan2 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    Sorry prof, but the word of the temporary alliance was that DrLupo would not attack you, while the deluge may violate the spirit of the alliance no court would uphold your complaint

    • @joedoe7572
      @joedoe7572 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yup!

  • @Beowulfgang_Amadeus
    @Beowulfgang_Amadeus หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It should be on record that while Sony walked back the PSN requirement they failed to re enable Helldiver's 2 in the 180+ countries that the policy made the game unplayable in, meaning they functionally got what they wanted while tricking the community to reverse the review bombing.

  • @LX6R_Alexander
    @LX6R_Alexander 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Very weird to me that they let the Mayhem Devil live all that time.

  • @user-lk9mk9md9d
    @user-lk9mk9md9d 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This was basically 2v1v1 I guess these kind of commander games happen but it wasn’t really fun to watch the game. Loved the banter between lupo and prof though!

  • @tahoth5866
    @tahoth5866 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    TECHNICALLY 🤓: As with all multi-choice cards, Rankle and Torbran choices must go in order, so you would sacrifice first and THEN pick the additional 2 damage. Since mayhem devil triggers go on the stack and wait their turn to resolve it doesn't matter here, but its a tricky rule bit that does pop up occasionally.
    Nile is great though, so she probably is aware and just doesn't explain out full stack shenanigans since it is irrelevant here.

    • @user-jj2tr4pi3z
      @user-jj2tr4pi3z 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yeah, but modal effects are a single object on the stack (700.2b), after it resolves the sacrifices happen and the mayhem devils abilities triggers go on the stack.

    • @tahoth5866
      @tahoth5866 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah thats what I meant by "They wait their turn" but perhaps it wasn't clear enough. I was pointing out the order is top to bottom per 608.2c. So yes while it doesn't matter here because of how the mayhem devil triggers go on the stack, it DOES matter for say Cryptic Command, so its important to remember you MUST go top to bottom during resolution.
      As an recent example that actually happened to me I had a creature with "Your spells cannot be countered". Cryptic command counters, and THEN bounces. So they could not bounce my guy and then counter my spell after he is gone.

  • @unforseenconsequense
    @unforseenconsequense 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Did prof ever go a combat phase without attacking DrLupo? In that vein, did he attack anyone other than DrLupo? I wasn't keeping track

    • @DrBrangar
      @DrBrangar หลายเดือนก่อน

      He did send 8 at Nile, once.

  • @austingreen4775
    @austingreen4775 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Most excellent, a great video to listen to while working, cant wait for the Behind the Campus video! Also Helldivers 2 is a great game. Very fun.

  • @tommyoffret4147
    @tommyoffret4147 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Anyone else bothered that Nile went out of her way to turn this into to headed giant because RaC sAcK gIrLiEs when this could have just been a dope commander game.

  • @cptanarchy7
    @cptanarchy7 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    That helldivers intro is extra funny because all the review bombers were like "yay we won!! we made the huge company back peddle!" when instead sony just delisted the game in every place where psn isn't a thing. So the players still lost horribly and sony still got exactly what it wanted, they just took the illusion of a win as a win. So dumb.

  • @veridis_qu0
    @veridis_qu0 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    Yoooo I love Ash. I had a blast playing cookies during the standard season thanks to her

  • @arrivtuber
    @arrivtuber 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    1:25 Don't worry lupo I thought it was interesting

  • @giladbaer6433
    @giladbaer6433 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    the girl closer to the camera is cool, I watch her channel a lot, although she did make me use wildcards on a deck that ended up being very mid. The professor is perfect, as always, Dr. Lupo was my favorite streamer back in 5th grade when we were all addicted to Fortnite, and the other girl is scary. Overall pretty good.

    • @SpiritStoneWarrior94-yx3gs
      @SpiritStoneWarrior94-yx3gs 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I mean she didn't "make you" use those cards...... you chose to use them, because she used then and you wanted to try it out.

    • @giladbaer6433
      @giladbaer6433 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@SpiritStoneWarrior94-yx3gs I'm not blaming her, I think she is a great content creator. The thing is, when streamers start going into TH-cam, in order to make their videos more interesting, they put the matches where the deck performed the best, which kind of distorts it a little. Everyone does it though, I should have checked her stream before building it. She even keeps a win-loss ratio on stream. Chillax brada

  • @jacobherrel7417
    @jacobherrel7417 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    I usually enjoy your gameplay content, but man this was an extremely frustrating game to watch. What horrible threat assessment and some truly bad politics and “alliances”. Dr Lupo has some amazing patience man, props to him for staying upbeat and avoiding getting salty.

  • @bartman64
    @bartman64 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I now want vids solely dedicated to explaining internet current events to the Prof.

  • @chazvegas_
    @chazvegas_ 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I'm here for the "Dr Lupo got bullied" comments, is that line forming over here or am i in the wrong spot? Haha this was a fun one!

  • @DerpHerper
    @DerpHerper 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Dr. Lupo's Obkea Experience(TM) is exactly why I can't groove with Grixis. I feel like every Grixis deck I make is so desperate to have mana up AND the commander out AND fodder on board. Glad to see it's not just me.

  • @xNINJ4xSTE4LTHx
    @xNINJ4xSTE4LTHx 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    1:01:35 "Shuffle up your hand and play" Oh you mean Brian Kibler's new show?

  • @BlastingRobbin
    @BlastingRobbin 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    God it hurts to watch sacrifice decks just kill everything every turn. I was so excited to see the upkeep deck 😂

  • @kv2315
    @kv2315 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    Tbh that teamplay ruined the match. the rakdos player should have targeted the mono black player too instead of constantly kicking Prof

  • @infinitokens6748
    @infinitokens6748 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Thank you for the support!

  • @sawtooth6679
    @sawtooth6679 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    he threat assessment was so bad this game 😭the 2 players who like hurting themselves to do things had vast more life than the other 2 players
    also lupo forgot to give generous another counter on endstep, minor thing tho

    • @unanon_user
      @unanon_user 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      it always seems like the women are far more unified than the men on shuffle up and play. not intended as anything other than an observation.
      The professor's problem is that he acts too old for his age. being old isn't a bad thing? if you don't let it impair your judgment

  • @fredouellet3160
    @fredouellet3160 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Prof, you are the wrost at the art of deals! "[Now that I stole the initiative from you,] let's make a deal to never attack each others!!" Also, Toxic deluge was not a break of your alliance.

  • @DaisyEdwards-md7jl
    @DaisyEdwards-md7jl 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Dr. Lupo info dumping about a random thing the professor had never heard of delaying the start of the episode was the neuro-divergent representation I needed today

  • @avrolcaster
    @avrolcaster หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Prof doing the "...electric Boogaloo" killed me. I'm happy someone else uses that joke lmao

  • @rileydport
    @rileydport 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    "St. Jude Charity Guy"

  • @richardfarley
    @richardfarley 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Me (watching all these back episodes of SUP): "If Proff dies first, I'll drink."
    Also me: [DRUNK]

  • @thomasdespain4027
    @thomasdespain4027 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    -5/-5 wouldn't have been violating the alliance, but -6/-6 definitely was.

    • @unanon_user
      @unanon_user 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lara Croft has access to blue and the professor didn't even use ONE COUNTERSPELL...
      Just saying how suspicious that is. I'm sure bad deck probably had access to counterspells.

    • @isthou
      @isthou 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      and then nile boardwiping him just after saying she wouldnt touch him, he just got f** , that's why you don't politic in commander :D

  • @derdes4475
    @derdes4475 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    hadn't heard of Lupo before, but seeing that a friend dragged me back in to magic (after over 20 years) with the Transformers cards (Love my "Ramos in The Skies" themedeck) and I absolutely had the same train of thought as him - must be a cool guy.

  • @Adamisawesome1497
    @Adamisawesome1497 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    This video is a great example to new players to not make deals with people that will not honor them

  • @Blargerhonk
    @Blargerhonk 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Those Mayhem Devil triggers couldn't target Prof's stuff, they have Hexproof. What? Oh I see all the damn stack stacking. Makes sense now.

  • @oldmanstrolseeyt2121
    @oldmanstrolseeyt2121 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    That Diregraf coming in with next to no counters on it is exactly the trap I've fallen into building Gisa myself.
    She's a zombie lord, but at the same time, playing zombies kinda feels off when you want to be committing crimes as often as possible.
    I'm currently building her more into a crime focused control/disruption deck and ditching some of the less impactful zombies😂

    • @barrychan3722
      @barrychan3722 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      +1/+1 counters are the bonus. You most likely care about his second ability

    • @ViliOlin
      @ViliOlin 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      just dont play trash commanders

  • @stillton5592
    @stillton5592 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I'm pretty sure the game shouldn't have ended that way because of rule 608.2c: Rankle and Torbran would have caused each player to sacrifice a creature before the final ability, causing the 4 mayhem devil triggers to only deal a combined 4 damage rather than 12.
    608.2c "The controller of the spell or ability follows its instructions in the order written."

    • @unraveki
      @unraveki 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Does the OG rankles abilities have to be resolved from top to bottom aswell then? Cuz if so I've just realised I got cheated in my lgs 2 years ago🤣

    • @sereenafarren3927
      @sereenafarren3927 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This is not correct - all the choices are part of one triggered ability. This means that all modes chosen are resolved before the Mayhem Devil triggers, so they still gain the extra damage

    • @jacobisbell9388
      @jacobisbell9388 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@unraveki Yes they do, and if I were to guess you were told to draw a card then immediately discard it, if you have no cards in hand Rankle would make you discard your nothing then draw a card in that order.

    • @user-jj2tr4pi3z
      @user-jj2tr4pi3z 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They resolve in the order written but the ability is a single object on the stack (700.2b) The creatures get sacrficed after it resolves, the sacrifice triggers the mayhem devils ability.

  • @rathlord
    @rathlord 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Wee bit cringe to say "We know how to do threat assessment" and then send Mayhem Devil triggers at Prof when his board has just been cleared and he's at single digit life... meanwhile the player directly to your right is at 31 and has a commanding board presence lol. And apparently no one else had the presence of mind to notice that as a problem...

    • @TheAlexRhodes
      @TheAlexRhodes 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You missed the keyword, "WE".
      The prof tried to subtly call out their team-play a few times but ultimately gave up instead of causing a scene.
      What can you do, some people just can't play fair in a FFA game.

  • @MrGenericNickname
    @MrGenericNickname 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I always like Shuffle up and play content but this felt like such a throw. Ash and Nile barely touched each other's board until the very end and even then it was very forced. For everyone talking about "threat assessment" it's crazy that nobody mentioned "that Mayham Devil has to go"

  • @rahondas_10
    @rahondas_10 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Lupos the goat. Hate it whenever people team the whole time in commander tho, kinda soils the game.

  • @henrykilman9639
    @henrykilman9639 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hearing “poggers” and “roflstomp” in the same episode was like learning cleopatra lived closer in time to the moon landing than the construction of the great pyramids

  • @silverchill1
    @silverchill1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +70

    Gaslighting is the real winner here.

    • @camoking3609
      @camoking3609 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hey if it works

    • @thatepicwizardguy
      @thatepicwizardguy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

      made the game way less fun IMO.

  • @kingokaze
    @kingokaze 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    @13:52 Lara Croft has a PhD in Archeology.

    • @RoninRose541
      @RoninRose541 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      And Comparative Mythology

    • @kingokaze
      @kingokaze 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@RoninRose541 ye

    • @thelegendofbardock3816
      @thelegendofbardock3816 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Cant wait for the next game.

  • @evarhart
    @evarhart 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    These have to be my favorite guests on this show ever. Such a wholesome episode! :D

  • @Spock1777
    @Spock1777 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I've known about this series for a while but never watched it because of I'm not personally a fan of watching other people play Magic online because a lot of shows are overproduced or have a bunch of expensive cards being thrown around that it loses that casual charm that I love about Commander. But this series just has the energy of a bunch of friends playing a game together in a basement, with a good mix of optimized and casual play that it doesn't lose that charm for me. It doesn't feel like I'm watching a show, it feels like I'm watching some people just play Commander in the back of an LGS.

  • @mikov6486
    @mikov6486 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    When the Prof said “I will open my heart to poggers,” I felt psychic damage. What I need is for the Prof to say “skibidi” and unleash his full psychic damage potential.😊

  • @Sirdoom34
    @Sirdoom34 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Hey, that's Dr. Lupo! He knows how to snipe!

  • @stephenlarson1493
    @stephenlarson1493 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This series makes me laugh.
    During a lot of hard times.
    Thank you