I was lost in a mall once, and when i ran into Wheeler and asked him to help my find my Mom, he told me i needed to start liking combo more. (This is a joke, my one interaction with Wheeler was quite nice)
North 100 Showdown is the best MTG content out right now. Not enough people playing this format. Regarding the Mox conversation at the beginning, it has felt like the show has primarily featured aggro and midrange piles a lot recently. I'd love some more control and combo. But then again, I could just watch Wheeler play Eggs all day
Somebody should make a meme that's a cat attacking it's reflection in the mirror and caption it: "Flametongue Kavu when it's the only creature on the battlefield".
Is there some reason that Wheeler was able to cast Molten Collapse at the end of Serge's turn? I noticed that it was a sorcery while reading it on the card reader and was confused. Was it just a mistake because its a new card?
so wheeler cast terminate on serge's start of combat killing the glorybringer, then takes 3. serge passes turn. wheeler draws molten collapse, fetches and kills scooze and clue main phase.
With the caveat that I haven’t personally seen anyone complaining about moxen - this is like. The moxen format. This and Vintage. Anyone complaining hasn’t seen a mox in their life. (I haven’t either, which is one of the reasons I enjoy watching these)
Hey collaboration does bring new players to your channel! I have seen both of you, Wheeler + Surge (no particular order) on The Spike Feeders. Canadian Highlander is the second best format after Aussie 7 point Highlander.
Not sure what you're asking here, Serge passes priority after casting Minsc because there aren't any game actions he can take, Wheeler casts an instant to remove Minsc when he gets priority after the Minsc ETB trigger (create hamster) goes on the stack.
I wonder what wheeler was thinking about after realizing that shadowspear would have been perfect in his situation, and then realizing it's not in the deck
I hate to be "that graphic designer" who nitpicks things like this that is almost not worth a mention, but the font used for the deck names for the thumbnails in this series has a really weird default "A-Y-A" kerning to it, theres so much air in between those letters in NAYA. It has slightly bugged me and I wouldn't mention it if I didn't know Graham also was a font nerd. (Kinda weird since for the rest of the letters seem completely fine)(sorry if this is annoying 😔)
Feels like the eternal witness attack in game 1 was a bit too aggressive even if it didn’t change things. Think you are fine with Boo trading for the adventurer and if it doesn’t trade you are left with the extra body to fight for initiative/monarch which might have been a big deal if wheeler had one more removal spell 🤷♂️
Like attacking with boo gives you initiative no matter what, it attacks as a 5/5 trample cause of hierarch so the attack was 100% incorrect with witness.
I do not play 1v1 formats very much except for historic brawl on Arena, but I watch these videos and find myself entertained nonetheless. However, I have to be honest in saying that high-powered 1v1 formats do not seem all that engaging to me. In fact they seem to be rather 1-note in that games tend to play out in one of only a few ways every single time. The typical rhythm of Highlander, and I would extrapolate to other "non-rotating formats" such as vintage and modern (and this applies to historic brawl as well, which is why I am quickly losing my fondness for it) is Threat-Answer-Threat-Answer-Threat-Answer, and the moment this repetitious balance is broken the game is essentially over due to the incredible speed at which threats end the game in these formats. If one player fails to answer a threat, even a simple one-drop (Looking at you, naughty monkey), that player is almost certain to lose the game within only a turn cycle or two, or at the very least fall irreversibly far behind, with very little chance of maneuvering their way out of it. And due to the sheer amount of threatening permanents (especially creatures) that accrue essentially endless value beginning the very same turn they are played, there is enough redundancy that it is very likely any player with threat on board, capable of stockpiling resources without fear of losing their position in the lead, will draw into even more threats while their unlucky opponent is scrambling for a response to the first problem, in essence creating an inevitable cascade wherein defeat is assured by only the slightest margin of error or misfortune. Assuming the decks are evenly matched and the two players draw equivalently powerful hands, the game often seems to just come down to who goes first- essentially a coin flip. And in games where the balance is not so perfect- well I think you can imagine the problems with that. Slower and lower powered formats mitigate this issue by increasing the length of games, and thus increasing the number of opportunities players have to recover from a mistake or bad draw. Formats like pauper and commander will go on for many more turns on average than a game of legacy, Canadian Highlander, or Modern, which I think is overall a positive. Not only is there less shuffling and wasted time with administration and restarting games, as well as less pressure to keep fast hands, thus decreasing mulligans and increasing playtime, but it also reduces the impact of going first and of getting lucky card draws throughout the game. When a single efficient threat played on curve is enough to single-handedly win the game without additional support or synergy or planning, the games just boil down to who gets lucky and draws a threat that cant be answered first. Players may as well speed up the game by revealing their removal and threats in hand at the start and whoever has more can be declared the winner. With how many cards WOTC is printing with "modern" design sensibilities of efficiency and impact bundled together regardless of mana cost (power creep), even the singleton nature of EDH is not enough to stem the flow of one-sided games where the only interest comes from basically seeing what artwork will be on this generic creature that kills my opponent or generic kill spell that saves me from death for a turn. And it is really a shame because formats like EDH and Brawl and Commander have so much potential as a refuge from the nightmarish speed and consistency issues of other formats, but even these sacred temples are being faithlessly looted for all they are worth, left sundered to the point of unrecognizability. Every format is becoming vintage, every format is becoming legacy, every format is looking more and more like Yu-Gi-Oh by the day, and it is actually really depressing. It has gotten to the point where the only real magic around anymore is kitchen table magic- so for those of you who can't afford a house with a dining room, sorry you're out of luck. I honestly would hope to see much more magic like that, unformatted, untarnished, unfiltered and non-net-decked kitchen table magic. Some of my favorite content on this channel have been the old 60 card budget deck tournaments and the robo-rosewater and chaos drafts that you never know what to expect from. Certainly those games were very rarely won on turn 3 or 4, and there was a lot less do-nothing while both players shuffle and search endlessly for perfect consistency just so they can play threats as fast as possible and hope their opponent is just a single turn behind. Anyway I'm ranting at this point, and I still enjoy these videos for the hilarious banter of some really funny nerds- but certainly the gameplay of formats like this can never match up to the standards of the past. Take that how you will.
It's so weird... I have seen more content creators complaining about comments complaining recently than I have seen complaining in comments. Dudes, just keep doing you, don't pay attention to the comments! (including this one)
The queer person in me locked in on the words “my husband” and I’m like “ah I knew Wheeler was my favorite for a reason 😌” (this is probably public information that I should know by now but it still makes me happy)
Lmao "I'm just reading questing beast" what an intimidation tactic
Best first 140 seconds of any North100 Showdown ever.
the whole point is that they are in hour 3 of recording 🤣
Hi
HIII!!!
@@Cryonicity
Hi!
Love it when they get extra silly 😁
Like this comment if you said "Hi" during the opening bit, I want to see how many of us share the brain cell.
Well I tried, but Ben and Surge kept interrupting 😏
I say hi every time 😂
I also wave knowing full well they can't see me waving😅
Humans are weird and potentially awesome
I said hi during the 'echo'.
This series is easily my favorite MTG content on this site.
I initially was like "Eh, let's just put this on in the background" and now I'm super stoked whenever I get a notification for this series
Serge and the Professor: Magic players who have never won a game ever
Everyone needs friendships like Wheeler and Serge❤
Hi
Cool to see some Red in that Vampires deck.
I was lost in a mall once, and when i ran into Wheeler and asked him to help my find my Mom, he told me i needed to start liking combo more. (This is a joke, my one interaction with Wheeler was quite nice)
North 100 Showdown is the best MTG content out right now. Not enough people playing this format. Regarding the Mox conversation at the beginning, it has felt like the show has primarily featured aggro and midrange piles a lot recently. I'd love some more control and combo. But then again, I could just watch Wheeler play Eggs all day
Looking at EDH maybe not being played a lot is key for a healthy format.
Congratulations Serge, on your first ever N100 win! I always knew you might do it!
I love when the task of being the only adult in the room falls on Wheeler
Exciting game! "I'm just reading Questing Beast" is so scary and nonchalant, I love it.
I love how you can tell when they've been recording for a while
Thanks for making this, it's great to be here
Thank you for the content, it's great to be here
didn’t wheeler miss the attack trigger on caves of chaos adventurer when he attacks with it for the first time?
To North 100 I give my highest honor. Watching it at 1x speed on my main monitor. Try not to let it go to your heads.
I need more control decks in my life. I would love to see some more control in this series!
Wow this is a real wrestling episode, love the Glorious shoutout LOL
oh cherish this, love to see it buds
I look forward to seeing this show every week on youtube.
Happy new year and here's hoping Surge takes the last game of the year!
Excellent, as always. Thank you.
Love me some North 100!
I said Hi to Wheeler through my screen during the intro when he pointed at the audience :D
I love love LOVE this show!
i definitely said hi every time wheeler threw to the audience. thanks king
Serge is immediately in Wheeler's head gotta love it. Hi!
Hi!
Loved this matchup.
Ben with the perfect "HI!!!" at the end.
For those like me who might not remember what FTK is, it is Flametongue Kavu, a 4/2 that deals 4 damage on ETB.
Somebody should make a meme that's a cat attacking it's reflection in the mirror and caption it: "Flametongue Kavu when it's the only creature on the battlefield".
I absolutely love that the intros are trending to the unhinged side of life
Exactly what I needed today, Wheeler pointing at me repeatedly
I love this format and I love these players
It was so dangerous to take a big drink of water at any point during that intro 💦
"I'm a Magic Player, not a Nerd" is a fantastic T-shirt idea
I’m a simple man. I see north 100 content. I click north 100 content.
Congrats! Great ep!
This series has evolved so far past the "I thought it was just a top & tail affair" comments of yore
Lmao I replayed that intro like 10 times
Is there some reason that Wheeler was able to cast Molten Collapse at the end of Serge's turn? I noticed that it was a sorcery while reading it on the card reader and was confused.
Was it just a mistake because its a new card?
so wheeler cast terminate on serge's start of combat killing the glorybringer, then takes 3. serge passes turn. wheeler draws molten collapse, fetches and kills scooze and clue main phase.
With the caveat that I haven’t personally seen anyone complaining about moxen - this is like. The moxen format. This and Vintage. Anyone complaining hasn’t seen a mox in their life. (I haven’t either, which is one of the reasons I enjoy watching these)
Hey collaboration does bring new players to your channel!
I have seen both of you, Wheeler + Surge (no particular order) on The Spike Feeders. Canadian Highlander is the second best format after Aussie 7 point Highlander.
Its great to be here!
Does Serge not have priority when Minsc hits the board before Wheeler destroys it?
Not sure what you're asking here, Serge passes priority after casting Minsc because there aren't any game actions he can take, Wheeler casts an instant to remove Minsc when he gets priority after the Minsc ETB trigger (create hamster) goes on the stack.
"Nobody's playing _Turbo Tomb of Annihilation_ ", Wheeler, number 1 pilot of _Turbo Tomb of Annihilation_ 😎
I wonder what wheeler was thinking about after realizing that shadowspear would have been perfect in his situation, and then realizing it's not in the deck
are we ever gonna get to see the fabled food deck?
I would love to see a combo verse control match up!
Will there be the Canadian Highlander Championship? It is very important
It didn't come up, but Eldritch Evo exiles on resolution
18:00 Eomer is such a sick include
Boo is outraged! See his fury! It's small, so look close. Trust me, it's there.
Big gremlin energy from Serge today =)
Is it Christmas that we're getting such gifts!
I love the fleetfoot dancer, its such cool card
34:44 "Nobody is playing turbo Tomb of Annihilation" says the guy that has a turbo Tomb of Annihilation EDH deck.
I hate to be "that graphic designer" who nitpicks things like this that is almost not worth a mention, but the font used for the deck names for the thumbnails in this series has a really weird default "A-Y-A" kerning to it, theres so much air in between those letters in NAYA. It has slightly bugged me and I wouldn't mention it if I didn't know Graham also was a font nerd. (Kinda weird since for the rest of the letters seem completely fine)(sorry if this is annoying 😔)
Gotta love the North 100 Showdown!
Yoooo go wheeler no.1 wheeler fan forever and always🎉
Feels like the eternal witness attack in game 1 was a bit too aggressive even if it didn’t change things. Think you are fine with Boo trading for the adventurer and if it doesn’t trade you are left with the extra body to fight for initiative/monarch which might have been a big deal if wheeler had one more removal spell 🤷♂️
Like attacking with boo gives you initiative no matter what, it attacks as a 5/5 trample cause of hierarch so the attack was 100% incorrect with witness.
Not playing the forest Serge got from taking the initiative after missing two land drops seemed even more sketchy to me
Best intro 😂
HI!
This is a sweet set of games!
Why does serge like voice of resurgence? It never seems to matter in games 🤷♂️ just a pet card?
I do not play 1v1 formats very much except for historic brawl on Arena, but I watch these videos and find myself entertained nonetheless. However, I have to be honest in saying that high-powered 1v1 formats do not seem all that engaging to me. In fact they seem to be rather 1-note in that games tend to play out in one of only a few ways every single time. The typical rhythm of Highlander, and I would extrapolate to other "non-rotating formats" such as vintage and modern (and this applies to historic brawl as well, which is why I am quickly losing my fondness for it) is Threat-Answer-Threat-Answer-Threat-Answer, and the moment this repetitious balance is broken the game is essentially over due to the incredible speed at which threats end the game in these formats. If one player fails to answer a threat, even a simple one-drop (Looking at you, naughty monkey), that player is almost certain to lose the game within only a turn cycle or two, or at the very least fall irreversibly far behind, with very little chance of maneuvering their way out of it.
And due to the sheer amount of threatening permanents (especially creatures) that accrue essentially endless value beginning the very same turn they are played, there is enough redundancy that it is very likely any player with threat on board, capable of stockpiling resources without fear of losing their position in the lead, will draw into even more threats while their unlucky opponent is scrambling for a response to the first problem, in essence creating an inevitable cascade wherein defeat is assured by only the slightest margin of error or misfortune. Assuming the decks are evenly matched and the two players draw equivalently powerful hands, the game often seems to just come down to who goes first- essentially a coin flip. And in games where the balance is not so perfect- well I think you can imagine the problems with that.
Slower and lower powered formats mitigate this issue by increasing the length of games, and thus increasing the number of opportunities players have to recover from a mistake or bad draw. Formats like pauper and commander will go on for many more turns on average than a game of legacy, Canadian Highlander, or Modern, which I think is overall a positive. Not only is there less shuffling and wasted time with administration and restarting games, as well as less pressure to keep fast hands, thus decreasing mulligans and increasing playtime, but it also reduces the impact of going first and of getting lucky card draws throughout the game. When a single efficient threat played on curve is enough to single-handedly win the game without additional support or synergy or planning, the games just boil down to who gets lucky and draws a threat that cant be answered first. Players may as well speed up the game by revealing their removal and threats in hand at the start and whoever has more can be declared the winner.
With how many cards WOTC is printing with "modern" design sensibilities of efficiency and impact bundled together regardless of mana cost (power creep), even the singleton nature of EDH is not enough to stem the flow of one-sided games where the only interest comes from basically seeing what artwork will be on this generic creature that kills my opponent or generic kill spell that saves me from death for a turn. And it is really a shame because formats like EDH and Brawl and Commander have so much potential as a refuge from the nightmarish speed and consistency issues of other formats, but even these sacred temples are being faithlessly looted for all they are worth, left sundered to the point of unrecognizability. Every format is becoming vintage, every format is becoming legacy, every format is looking more and more like Yu-Gi-Oh by the day, and it is actually really depressing.
It has gotten to the point where the only real magic around anymore is kitchen table magic- so for those of you who can't afford a house with a dining room, sorry you're out of luck. I honestly would hope to see much more magic like that, unformatted, untarnished, unfiltered and non-net-decked kitchen table magic. Some of my favorite content on this channel have been the old 60 card budget deck tournaments and the robo-rosewater and chaos drafts that you never know what to expect from. Certainly those games were very rarely won on turn 3 or 4, and there was a lot less do-nothing while both players shuffle and search endlessly for perfect consistency just so they can play threats as fast as possible and hope their opponent is just a single turn behind.
Anyway I'm ranting at this point, and I still enjoy these videos for the hilarious banter of some really funny nerds- but certainly the gameplay of formats like this can never match up to the standards of the past. Take that how you will.
wheeler is right ive totallt noticed that both dengeon and inative tokens arnt shown in token lists and its annoying af
damn not even a minute in and this was clearly shot LATE in the recording session
Anyone understand why Serge slowrolled that Forest?
Came here to say this
Long recording session, probably mixed up the Initiative trigger with Monarch timing.
There's too many moxen. I've never played this format. Where's my mom?
Whaaaat Naya swinging for lethal? Who would have guessed.
Serge is a treasure 😊
It's a xmas miracle
Urza's Saga, what a card...
sick new n100
The fact that moxen are only three points still boggles my mind.
Hi nice video but do you know where my mom is I haven't seen her in like 5 minutes
Hiii!
Wheeler brings up a good point: Where IS my mom?
Hai!
It's so weird... I have seen more content creators complaining about comments complaining recently than I have seen complaining in comments.
Dudes, just keep doing you, don't pay attention to the comments! (including this one)
Hi!
The queer person in me locked in on the words “my husband” and I’m like “ah I knew Wheeler was my favorite for a reason 😌” (this is probably public information that I should know by now but it still makes me happy)
Where's my mom!?
I feel bad for Wheeler who has never won a game of magic in his life. (Biggest /s imaginable in case that wasn't obvious.)
Yeah worst comes to worst I'll just rip it off the top nbd
1% of the time it works every time.
Legitimately, though, where *is* my mom?
Green invests actual mana for dorks and still comes out with the win. Free mox didn't help. Sweet justice. Free spells suck.
There's too many moxen! I've never played this format. Where's my mom!?
Serge! Serge! Serge!
North 100 merch please
Howdy!
Ahoy hoy
OooooooOOOOooooo!
Hi! Lol
The comment section should try "Get high- lander." You smoke some cannabis take a commander deck, and just shuffle your commander in and play.
Also point count is 420
Quick engage
Hi
hi
Where's my Mom?
Mox to 4.
Honestly getting tired of how warped this format got from the initiative.