For Aussies, substitute for Kleen Off is Windex or generic clones. I've used it as an ersatz airbrush cleaner of water based acrylics for the past 40 years. Rinse with a water flush after.
Hey Bobby, loving the channel and all you post. My models are getting better because of you. I made your home brew cleaner and it’s great on Tamia paints but really struggling to clean some Alclad paints, specifically the primer. Have you had any problems and could you give me some tips.
Never let anything with ammonia (like Windex, etc.) "dry" in your airbrush. In fact, never run your cup out of paint OR cleaner. Keep it "wet". For example, if using Bobby's mix or any other cleaner mix that includes ammonia, first remove any excess paint in the cup, using a pipette. Add thinner and shoot some through the brush. Clean the cup and add a bit more thinner. Shoot some of it. Add the cleaner mix and shoot it. Do NOT' run your cup until empty! Don't let it dry inside your brush. Wait a minute, to let it work. Then shoot again. Once the brush shoots "clean", remove remaining cleaner mix from cup using pipette. Add thinner (I use IPA + distilled water blend) and shoot enough through to be sure to flush all the ammonia-containing cleaner out of your brush. Shoot - pause - shoot. Clean cup if needed. Inspect needle through cup hole. Repeat as needed. Once you are satisfied that you have purged all the cleaner, you are done. I learned this "secret" from a pro. If you don't let the paint cup run empty when painting, you will have less effort to clean up the paint. Don't let the paint get dried in the brush by running until the cup is empty. Same goes for the cleaner, but is much more important. The ammonia will not "de-chrome" your brush as long as you don't let it oxidize (i.e. dry) on the metal. Let it cut the paint but flush it immediately with IPA and distilled water.
Hi beau can I ask can you make this without ammonia as I can’t stand the smell. I can’t use tamiya green glue at all because of smell. Hopefully you might be able to help. Cheers Steve great videos
HI, love your videos but this one is very slightly confusing. In a nutshell is this the formula? Home brew thinners Amonia Cleaner (About 5ml) A few glugs of 3 in 1 oil Top up with 99.9% IPA So basically its got a higher concentration of IPA?
I'm almost sure it's isopropyl alcohol. He uses that same can in the thinner video ( th-cam.com/video/T8k3BJC80IQ/w-d-xo.html ) as well and it's a logical combination
The big bottle is Isopropyl alcohol, IPA, right ? That has very high odor aswell. You should mention aswell the danger of these substances. IPA is easily penetrated through your skin and can cause nasty things. And why not recommend of using gloves and goggles. I mean as an instructor, you should maintain good practises over everything else.
If you are old enough to buy it you are old enough to read the label and follow the instructions. Your all grown up now, you dont have to rely on your mum to come and clothe you in the morning and tell you whats safe to eat and do. We use sharp metal blades too, I'm sure that will stop you sleeping at night with that thought. Bobby - thanks, that was helpful to me.
I was going to ask the same thing, it was one of the first things we learned in chemistry. NEVER use ammonia on chrome or any hard metal finish as it will not just eat the chrome, it literally dissolves it. Personally I am going to try this myself but I am swapping out the ammonia for white vinegar as it will not react with and destroy the airbrush finish. I suppose though if properly diluted it would not be that bad but not sure I want to chance it on a $400 brush!
Kevin Morrison I am very partial to Badger as I’m friends with Ken the owner and his first words to me were don’t EVER use ammonia or even lacquer thinner in your air brushes. Not to mention straight ammonia. I was using windex with Ammonia in it. I actually left my airbrush which was a mess soak in my ultra sonic cleaner in lacquer thinner one time for four hours. Took it out cleaned it up went to use it and seals were blew.
Yea I had an old airbrush that I did a similar thing to using Windex w/ammonia and I think about the same time soaking as you did and watched as the seals literally fell apart. Was only about 6 months later and found that brush had some really bad pits in it and I know it was because of the ammonia.
You will first need his home brew thinner that he makes. Here is the link (th-cam.com/video/T8k3BJC80IQ/w-d-xo.html). Wish he would have put this in the notes, it took some searching to find it and these Brits English is so bad it was near impossible to know what it was he said to watch but I found it nonetheless. Hope it answers your question...;)
Atomized ammonia and mineral oil?? REALLY.. I appreciate the good content you make, but this is a serious health risk. If you want to use such a harmful concoction you shouldn't be promoting it AT ALL. Most people have little to know clue about the harmfulness of such chemicals.. I'll quot just a few of the symptoms: Respiratory - the extent of injury produced by exposure to ammonia depends on the duration of the exposure, the concentration of the gas, and the depth of inhalation. Even fairly low airborne concentrations (50 ppm) of ammonia produce rapid onset of eye, nose, and throat irritation; coughing; and narrowing of the bronchi. More severe clinical signs include immediate narrowing of the throat and swelling, causing upper airway obstruction and accumulation of fluid in the lungs. This may result in low blood oxygen levels and an altered mental status. Mucosal burns to the tracheobronchial tree can also occur. Immediate onset of laryngospasm with respiratory arrest can occur. AMMONIA IS NO JOKE
For Aussies, substitute for Kleen Off is Windex or generic clones. I've used it as an ersatz airbrush cleaner of water based acrylics for the past 40 years. Rinse with a water flush after.
Hey Bobby, loving the channel and all you post. My models are getting better because of you.
I made your home brew cleaner and it’s great on Tamia paints but really struggling to clean some Alclad paints, specifically the primer. Have you had any problems and could you give me some tips.
alclads is laquier base mate, home brew is best for acylic based paints
Never let anything with ammonia (like Windex, etc.) "dry" in your airbrush. In fact, never run your cup out of paint OR cleaner. Keep it "wet". For example, if using Bobby's mix or any other cleaner mix that includes ammonia, first remove any excess paint in the cup, using a pipette. Add thinner and shoot some through the brush. Clean the cup and add a bit more thinner. Shoot some of it. Add the cleaner mix and shoot it. Do NOT' run your cup until empty! Don't let it dry inside your brush. Wait a minute, to let it work. Then shoot again. Once the brush shoots "clean", remove remaining cleaner mix from cup using pipette. Add thinner (I use IPA + distilled water blend) and shoot enough through to be sure to flush all the ammonia-containing cleaner out of your brush. Shoot - pause - shoot. Clean cup if needed. Inspect needle through cup hole. Repeat as needed. Once you are satisfied that you have purged all the cleaner, you are done.
I learned this "secret" from a pro. If you don't let the paint cup run empty when painting, you will have less effort to clean up the paint. Don't let the paint get dried in the brush by running until the cup is empty. Same goes for the cleaner, but is much more important. The ammonia will not "de-chrome" your brush as long as you don't let it oxidize (i.e. dry) on the metal. Let it cut the paint but flush it immediately with IPA and distilled water.
Whats the secret about that?? should be obvious.
Hi beau can I ask can you make this without ammonia as I can’t stand the smell. I can’t use tamiya green glue at all because of smell. Hopefully you might be able to help. Cheers Steve great videos
windex is a good replacment mate
@@genessismodels ok cheers is available in U.K.
@@genessismodels I’m only asking as been shielding for a year as dr won’t let me out as high risk
HI, love your videos but this one is very slightly confusing.
In a nutshell is this the formula?
Home brew thinners
Amonia Cleaner (About 5ml)
A few glugs of 3 in 1 oil
Top up with 99.9% IPA
So basically its got a higher concentration of IPA?
Try also to make a video about home brew lacquer airbrush cleaner
This looks marvelous! Can't wait around to start to see similar to this. Great job.
Have you considered adding an emulsifier to mix in the oil?
Q: Would it be wise to strip down and clean a new out of the box airbrush to remove any manufacturing contamination
You never mentioned what was in the big bottle. Is it some kind of water?
I'm almost sure it's isopropyl alcohol. He uses that same can in the thinner video ( th-cam.com/video/T8k3BJC80IQ/w-d-xo.html ) as well and it's a logical combination
Isopropyl alcohol
@@randallczaplicki3036 Is that better known as IPA ?
The big bottle is Isopropyl alcohol, IPA, right ? That has very high odor aswell. You should mention aswell the danger of these substances. IPA is easily penetrated through your skin and can cause nasty things. And why not recommend of using gloves and goggles. I mean as an instructor, you should maintain good practises over everything else.
If you are old enough to buy it you are old enough to read the label and follow the instructions. Your all grown up now, you dont have to rely on your mum to come and clothe you in the morning and tell you whats safe to eat and do. We use sharp metal blades too, I'm sure that will stop you sleeping at night with that thought.
Bobby - thanks, that was helpful to me.
Warning labels fucked up natural selection...
Won't ammonia eat the chrome plating ?
if you leave it in then it will mate, but its ok for a clean
"O" rings doesnt like it either
Will it work with AK real colors? How much should one use provided one does use Windex?
real colors work fine mate, as for windex you could what ever you want 1 3rd or half
Can i use the tamiya fluid retarder?(for the paint thinner)
I don't go anywhere near ammonia.
just use isopropyl alcohol it works so well
Indeed. Anyway, ammonia will be forbidden soon. Alcohol isn't enough for recent lacquers, they need stronger solvents thus more dangereous to breeze.
Oil in an airbrush cleaner! Should I be throwing my oil/moisture trap into the bin as this will surely make it pointless?
Defo not mate the moisture trap stops water from your tank coming out of your airbrush
I just looked on eBay for Kleen off cheapest is £39.99 for one bottle there was a two bottle one at £99.99 wow
ye covid has had an impacted on cleaning products sadley
I got household ammonia on eBay for a few quid. Bobby is right, some people are cashing in on COVID.
Fantastic
I made it by myself. I used Avasva solutions for that.
I think this tutorial is a month early. Its March 1st not April 1st.
nice
Thanks
Oil + alcohol = vinaigrette, where's the mustard ?
Won’t the ammonia dechrome your airbrush?
I was going to ask the same thing, it was one of the first things we learned in chemistry. NEVER use ammonia on chrome or any hard metal finish as it will not just eat the chrome, it literally dissolves it. Personally I am going to try this myself but I am swapping out the ammonia for white vinegar as it will not react with and destroy the airbrush finish. I suppose though if properly diluted it would not be that bad but not sure I want to chance it on a $400 brush!
Not to mention kill your seals in a matter of a week.
Yea if they last that long!
Kevin Morrison I am very partial to Badger as I’m friends with Ken the owner and his first words to me were don’t EVER use ammonia or even lacquer thinner in your air brushes. Not to mention straight ammonia. I was using windex with Ammonia in it. I actually left my airbrush which was a mess soak in my ultra sonic cleaner in lacquer thinner one time for four hours. Took it out cleaned it up went to use it and seals were blew.
Yea I had an old airbrush that I did a similar thing to using Windex w/ammonia and I think about the same time soaking as you did and watched as the seals literally fell apart. Was only about 6 months later and found that brush had some really bad pits in it and I know it was because of the ammonia.
¿Napalm to clean those fingers? :)
there are 3 ingredients, right?
ammonia based cleaner, oil and.... what?
You will first need his home brew thinner that he makes. Here is the link (th-cam.com/video/T8k3BJC80IQ/w-d-xo.html). Wish he would have put this in the notes, it took some searching to find it and these Brits English is so bad it was near impossible to know what it was he said to watch but I found it nonetheless. Hope it answers your question...;)
Thinking Isopropyl Alcohol. Not the best tutorial Bobby has done in a while. Don’t like the ingredients and not explained very well at all.
X.
Atomized ammonia and mineral oil?? REALLY.. I appreciate the good content you make, but this is a serious health risk. If you want to use such a harmful concoction you shouldn't be promoting it AT ALL. Most people have little to know clue about the harmfulness of such chemicals.. I'll quot just a few of the symptoms:
Respiratory - the extent of injury produced by exposure to ammonia depends on the duration of the exposure, the concentration of the gas, and the depth of inhalation. Even fairly low airborne concentrations (50 ppm) of ammonia produce rapid onset of eye, nose, and throat irritation; coughing; and narrowing of the bronchi. More severe clinical signs include immediate narrowing of the throat and swelling, causing upper airway obstruction and accumulation of fluid in the lungs. This may result in low blood oxygen levels and an altered mental status. Mucosal burns to the tracheobronchial tree can also occur. Immediate onset of laryngospasm with respiratory arrest can occur.
AMMONIA IS NO JOKE