Everything we know about the 2024 Porsche Macan Electric!
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- MotoMan goes on a deep technical dive of the all new for 2024 @Porsche Macan Electric. He presents both the 402 HP Porsche Macan 4 Electric as well as the 630 HP Porsche Macan Turbo Electric, interpreting some of the key engineering & design elements as Porsche evolves from the Taycan. Back at the hangar, he presents an overview of the Porsche Macan market moving forward as Porsche grapples with changes in worldwide EV demand.
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We should have had a decade+ transition period where cars are PHEV instead of full electric.
That has been the way for a while now.
This makes me glad I purchased a Macan GTS last year.
It is still available and will be for a whole
@@sexpistill True. However, the next few years is the timeframe for stocking up on non-hybrid and non-EV cars for those that want them. I have a moderately sized garage and have been acquiring ICE vehicles with special sounding engines over the past few years that will be gone soon. LC 500 is probably next on the list.
@@Closertotruth2 oh yeah the LC will be such a treat. I have a feeling they will backtrack on a lot of this unless by some miracle they make better batteries because right now 30 million BEVs a year don't look appealing.
Anyway I'm in South Africa and this nonsense will not fly for a decade problem we get European specc cars so no more of that 😥
i dont understand the widespread hate for EVs.
I’ve always loved the Macan so I’m not surprised that I like the EV version as well. It’s a little pricey, but when have Porsches been cheap? It’ll be interesting to see what happens with the gas Macan as I think it’s going to end up sticking around a lot longer than Porsche thought.
Agreed - I think it'll be the perfect daily. Love that it maintains physical controls. And yes, Porsche has announced they will continue selling the ICE Macan for longer, particularly in the US.
On the price front, it'll make a fantastic used buy given EV depreciation curves right now. I bet there will be good lease deals on ~2 years too (EV oversupply = discounting, +$7500 tax credit).
Great report as always. I’m really looking forward to your driving review this summer. I love my ‘22 Macan S.
Regarding your suggestion that Porsche update the ICE Macan (8:20), I would prefer that Porsche produce a PHEV version of the Macan
Plug in hybrids make no sense. You’ve got to plug it in to charge and range is not that much improved. Also most Porsche owners have no interest in using the electric only mode
I think a hybrid would be better
The pricing is out in Europe and several youtubers have went online to the configurator for the Macan 4 and fully loaded it tops $100K and mildly loaded it is about $85k.
I say it again, they should've started with hybrid and go with that. This is more expensive and it's going to have less range compare to the current Macan.
80k for a base Porsche SUV……tough sell for me. It’s a packed SUV market let alone a EV SUV. It’s good to go EV to have a place but for right now, if I had 80k I wouldn’t be spending it on this. Curious who the buyer profile is for this.
Third or fourth car for those with one or two P cars already.
Top tier Tesla model y was about that price when it came out. I would bet this will be better than that was and that it will do pretty well.
Please: What is the exact color of the gorgeous dark blue Porsche 911 in the background starting at 5:36 into your video? Is it Gentian or a PTS color? Thanks MotoMan!
No pricing details?!?! (5:25)… The day that you’re posting this video (2024 February 17), the prices have been available online at the Porsche configurator for several weeks now
This episode was shot in mid January. At that point, the only pricing details were the base prices. A lot of moving parts here and at some point I may share the behind the scenes story of what this episode was supposed to look like compared to what it is today.
Any info on when it will be available
@@MotoManTV
I always enjoy your videos not just because of what’s is visually shown but the different takes, angles, perspectives, directions, etc on where things are, would , could be. And as always you raise many good and interesting points.
Psshh… Just between you and me, did you overhear behind the scenes as to when the Macan EV 4S will be available to order and its pricing ($86-87k) ?
I have skin in the game as I “finally” put a “written deposit” first week of January 2021 after delaying.
Any info you have will be appreciated!!!
Thank you!
P.S. I am also an ICE Porsche owner.
Excited about these used in a few years.
If Porsche is successful in bringing eFuel to mass market I would never by an EV , still in love with with my 958.2 TTS .
Rear doesn’t look like a Porsche. Bad design. Front is still Porsche
This partnered with a 911 Turbos S - a good garage duo.
Shit, it looks like a Hyundai Kona that opened its eyes.
No it's not quite that bad..🤣
@@XENONEZZ2 as a Porsche fanboy who’s also looking to retire at 47, these new designs aren’t encouraging to work/save for.
As someone who likes what Hyundai has done with the new Kona, I don’t see that as a bad thing.
What a great summary. Lots of points I’ve not heard from others.
My pleasure!
The rear looks like a Toyota Crown. The ICE Macan looks much better
I think that the current issues with electric cars are not going to be solved for years, especially for those of us that like to travel with our cars. So yes Porsche should definitely update the ICE version of the Macan. They also need to put Android Auto in their base vehicles (Macan, Cayman/Boxster)...it's ridiculous that this has not yet been done and part of why I bought a BMW X3 M40i instead of a Macan S recently, along with BMW having more standard amenities, along with much, much more affordable options.
Unfortunately, vehicle development timelines are so long they almost certainly won't develop a new ICE gen, especially bc current one still sells so well. OEMs are global, and US is somewhat unique in our slower EV transition. No business case for a new ICE gen that would sell globally from ~2030 - 2037, as it wouldn't do well in China and EU.
And that sucks about Android Auto, didn't realize the refreshed Macan didn't have it. I ordered a 2021 992 and of course they added Android Auto for 2022 model year.
looking very good in this E platform.
We can see it here on the Canadian Porsche website. Base price 106kC$, so yeah... most probably high 70s in US$
lol If you could make a volkswagen beetle crossover, this is it 😂.... If you take the Audi front off, put a Volkswagen grill in front of it. You definitely got some type of beetle crossover
I gave a like for the red 993.👍 Hopefully it's a Turbo. ❤👌
In WSJ, Porsche will stop making the ICE MACAN for sale in Europe due to Cyber rule that took effect in 2022. "Some of the tech updates required to bring older Porsche and VW cars into compliance are too expensive, manufacturers say"
I think the car looks wonderful like you would expect from Porsche. Unfortunately I think there will be hesitation in purchasing this since it will not adopt the NACS charging standard for the time being. The biggest issue with most electric vehicles is that the independent charging networks are not up to par. Since Tesla is opening their network and they are the gold standard (at this time) something like this will delay adoption.
I can understand Porsche's decision to go fully electric with the Macan. However, the lower seating position is puzzling to me. Nevertheless, it seems that the transition to electric vehicles won't be as rapid as we thought a year ago. Perhaps Porsche will find a way to continue producing the current model with updated electronics for a few more years.
Porsche is smart to follow the market and continue to develop the product for the market. EV’s are certainly part of personal choices but at what scale is yet to be seen. Thank goodness they didn’t do what Toyota did which is make such an undesirable product so they could just keep it as a token that they did their part and pretend EV’s are not acceptable when in fact, they made a very undesirable product with wheels falling off. Porsche has gone out of their way to minimize the weight impact which, if adopted to the ice version would revolutionize their lineup. I know you put a pin in it but you’ll see. 10:31
Classic game theory problem. Car manufacturers are waiting to see what the others are doing
Can you do a meet up in NY area? Would be cool to chat
Perhaps in NJ or west Chester and have a drive as a group after?
Great suggestion! This is something we have been looking into but being you brought it up, what other cities would you guys be interested in doing a meet up? New York is an obvious one because that is my home town. And would you guys want to do a meet up with a drive or do a live 'Inside the MotoMan Studio' event at a central location?
I’m biased of course, but how about the great state of Texas. Austin/San Antonio, Houston or Dallas/Ft. Worth. Right in the middle of the country and easily accessible from either coast. Oh yeah, we have Buc-ees! We know how you love a good Buc-ees run. Let’s make this happen!😊
@@MotoManTVi am voting for the meetup and drive afterwards (perhaps to a casino in CT or bear mountain)
I thought the thumbnail made it look like a Toyota Crown but SUV body.
The Audi version has already been announced: Q6 etron
New transition music is massively out of place, just some feedback. Great vid as always
Appreciate the honest feedback.
I'm still having a hard time calling an EV "Turbo", but not calling a base 911 Carrera (with turbocharging) "Turbo".
Curious how this will play out given Porsche is not one to discount their cars. Looks like VW Financial will be incentivizing this model down the road :)
I believe the strategy should be similar to Toyota create hybrids!
All manufacturers should keep internal combustion engine around or at least a regular hybrid engine (not plug in hybrid).
More and more OEMs are realizing that is what needs to happen. GM announced recently that they are going to be bringing more PHEVs and HEVs to market. A stunning reversal from their strategy of the past couple of years.
@@MotoManTVBut GM is not really known to be a technology leader. They clearly has a challenge to make money on their EVs. That can be a devastating problem
Production of electricity, tires, mining lithium offsets the “environmental friendly “ argument of ev.
They don't want people to know that. Some people are blind to it ,nevermind sitting on a battery and the radiation from that and charging stations.
This simply isn't true. This is what special interest feeds masses that don't do their own research to get them riled up on their side.
How do power plants produce power? My electric bill keeps going up.
@@user-gs2ih7bb2b depends on the power source and how much the power company wants to turn a profit at your expense.
Under the current administration extracted more crude oil in US than all previous administration. So Motoman’s myth about EV mandates may be not as true as he tries to make it sound. The volume of extraction tells a different story. The president is not as progressive as this channel tries to make it to sound like
Lol over 2.4 ton? Porsche should learn how to make true EV sportscar from Hyundai/Kia
Only 240kW regen? Kidding me?
EV sales are not down. EV sales are up but Tesla et al have had to lower prices to keep sales growing. Porsche will end sales of ICE Macan in the EU this Spring.
ICE Macan sales are ending in Europe due to cybersecurity concerns.
Do more research EV SALES are down they can't even sell the Taycan's they are sitting in dealer lots.
People who tested it report very good range up from 300 miles.
@MotoManTV Have you heard of LENR Low Energy Nuclear Reactions? The Thunderbolt Generator is an air inlet and exhaust integration retrofit which transmutes carbon into oxygen. Effectively, the carbon in the fuel is not returned into the athmosphere. No plant food coming out, or very little of it. Another LENR setup has already passed per review in Nature journal.
If it can be scaled to a car, it might render all carbon restriction invalid. It was always about the carbon from the EXHAUST, not the mining and supply chain, right? Well, this retrofit looks to remove the carbon exhuast, as well as improve mileage. I'm here for it. Mostly due to the freedom aspects and overal car weight. That said, I do like me a silent EV that can keep A/C on overnight and power an over for home cooked goodness on the road. I feel ICE engineers have been lazy for way too long. Brands like Koenigsegg on a small budget keep showing up the reas tof the world, even with gearboxes. The EVs most brands are producing now 12 years after the original Model S are just blatantly lazy designs. Porsche might be an exception. Not offering their best effort, but still doing better than most.
There's a larger point here . . . The EU and US regulators have made decisions that are more about excluding solutions that have strong potential in favor of a one size fits all approach. Their decisions have already proven not to age well and will only get worse. And as you point out with a good example, EVs when well executed are a great solution . . .the foolishness of heavy handed mandates that do not address the stated issue is the issue.
Love your videos BUT YOU HAVE TO STOP SAYING “nacksuh” FOR NACS, i have NEVER heard anyone say it like a word, it’s an acronym, and you pronouncing something after the S, that’s how you would say NACSU or something like that
Then you don’t watch a lot of car videos on YT because a lot of the TH-cam reviewers referred to it is that.
A few observations. Until the number of EV charging stations across the country equal or surpass the number of petrol stations, EVs will remain a niche product. Moreover, the number of charging ports at each station would have to be two to three times the size of a petrol station because of charging times in conjunction with volumes each station would need to accommodate. The size requirements of charging stations would almost certainly make them impractical. We have to also consider that there seems to be little willingness to improve the output of the power grid whose demand from wider EV adoption could only be bridged with high energy density fuel sources like nuclear. Renewable energy like wind and solar are simply not cutting it and aren’t reliable enough. If you own your home and have to commute to work a finite distance then that’s the only use case an EV is practical but if it’s your only vehicle, it’s just a poor use of funds.
The fact this Macan promises 300 miles of usable range between charges has to some extent made this vehicle a potentially viable proposition.
You forget that most EV owners charge at home. I drive 25000 km per year. I would charge on a public charger maximum 3-4 times per year
@@Eddie_-_ I did not. That was my last point, that you would need to own your own home or at a minimum have a private garage to accommodate the charger to do it at home. I’ve seen rental apartment buildings with charging ports in the resident parking lot but they will only have a few of them and those are luxury rental buildings. As I said, if you’re using it as a daily to get around town it’s a fair use case. Road-trips beyond the daily distances are a different story.
@@dfdf4874 but isn’t that how majority of all cars in western world are used? Going back and forth from home. Then some occasional road trips. Which then mean that public charging needs to be convenient, but it doesn’t need to cater for everyone’s daily use. I was in Shanghai last year, almost all cars were EVs. I have no idea how they manage their charging, but I guess it’s catered for in their building parkings. In fact it’s another source of revenue for the owner of the building. So they have the incentive to install it once the need is there
@@Eddie_-_ Yes that’s right but remember I made several points in my first comment. One of which was the demand on the grid and increasing electric supply and China just so happens to burn more coal than the rest of the world combined, using it to power more than 65% of their grids supply. We haven’t talked about cold weather performance of EVs that’s another problem.
I owned a Model 3 for 4 years and had to go back to an ICE car because I missed the engine! So we bought a Macan S. We love it! Porsche is making a mistake. They should have gone with a strategy like BMW where they have an ICE and EV alternative. I love the design of the new Macan EV, but won’t be buying one-it doesn’t have an engine! There are quite a few Taycans sitting on the lot. I’m hoping the lack of demand for EV’s will make management reconsider bringing back a new ICE version.
It very much resembles a Hyundai
Tesla is the future get used to it
It’s interesting how Tesla fanboys get triggered when another car manufacturer comes out with an EV. Why do you care? If you’re really a fan of electric vehicles, you should be happy that the rest of the car manufacturing world has embrace EV’s. Not everybody wants a Tesla and not everyone should have to buy a Tesla if they want an EV. Tesla will continue to sell cars. You don’t have to be panicked because Porsche is making one. Yes, it’s probably going to be a better car in terms of build quality than the Tesla, but there are enough people who like the Tesla infrastructure that will buy it regardless of its faults.
not impressed. I would just pick up a Tesla Plaid. Way quicker
porsche EV depreciates like crazy...
They all do.
Too bad the design of this Porsche is nothing I would buy. My wife has a Macan S, it’s an awesome small SUV with hips and design. This another Mercedes-Benz-looking bubble. I hope it doesn’t sell so Porsche is forced to redesign it.
The EU just is becoming a "comedy-shop" - which shows in this PORSCHE-specific (MACAN) product cycle as well. The EU is trying to regulate too much detail (remember the Farmer-protest a few weeks ago...) - but fails on the big picture. But what is to expect from an organization that has become nontransparent and staffed by (mostly) locally discarded politicians...
btw: this Macan is an excellent SUV/EV nonetheless :-)
Porsche should go all in on EV / this market can adopt to anything as long is it drives and feels like a Porsche. Why waste money on co development of a dinosaur?
Big mistake Porsche!!
Never buying electric ever. I rather buy used Porsche with combustion engine.
Really wish there was a full vegan option for this vehicle.....the upcoming Audi Q6 apparently may be animal friendly.... just wondering why Porsche decided not to go down this route with these initial versions.
As a Porsche owner, I can say that the likelihood will be high that one will be able to spec a Vegan option . . . only catch: It's going to cost you.
The exterior design of the new Macan is very disappointing. It has curves in all the wrong places. The petrol Macan is far better looking.
That's subjective. I think there will be more cars looking like this in the future as EVs become more ubiquitous.
I think the EV looks better. It looks more hunkered down and aggressive
EV is much better looking 😀
@@jays9211 if it looks more aggressive (a statement I disagree with), that’s likely coincidental as the EV design process is driven by air coefficient considerations above looks. Unfortunately, the EV Macan is heading towards a Tesla model Y in appearance.
agreed, the design of this is just "meh" but I suspect this is deliberate by virtue of this being a Gen-1 design and the inter-related business issue of Product Planning...
(see entry for "Holdback") because you can bet a more exciting/attractive design exists (in CAD) but see they're not going to give greedy and insatiable consumers all that NOW, because then it begs the question what would they have to give you 4 and 8 years from NOW...? 😅
unbeknownst (despite appearances) the Auto Industry doesn't wait to just pull "rabbits out of hats" at the last minute, no, Vehicle Design Evolutions are mapped out 10 to 20 years in advance...
yeah everyone saw this dynamic playout (well everyone paying attention that is) leading up to the release of the mid-engine C8 Corvette in 2020. so what GM basically did was string everybody along (by the nose) for the last 50 years by NOT building the car, but instead by building 3 different prototypes, and it worked.
I have never before rooted for a car to fail. Sorry Porsche.
Music sucks....
Can you tone down the talking with the hands, very distracting.
No.
@@MotoManTVcan you acknowledge that under current administration record volume of crude oil was extracted? Could you be objective and not just report about EV mandates?
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