Why Ricciardo wouldn't be surprised if McLaren wins in F1 2022
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ส.ค. 2024
- McLaren has had a bad start to the 2022 Formula 1 season, managing just six points in the first two races of the season.
Given it has only the eighth-fastest car, it has a long way to go to turn its fortunes around and have any chance even of repeating last year's fourth place in the constructors' championship, let alone take on the leading teams.
Yet after the Saudi Arabian Grand Prix, Daniel Ricciardo said he wouldn't be surprised if the team could win a race later in the season. So while it was not a prediction, why was he so confident McLaren can make so much progress?
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2:14 "re-establish itself as a top-ten team"
I really hope they are in the top 10 team given that there are only 10 teams.
lol i thought the same haha, should have said finishing in the top 10/ top 5 team
Yeah mabye “a points scoring team” would have been a better way to put it
you could be onto something there.....:-)
20 cars: A team whose car regularly finishes top ten on track - a top ten team.
he watched a lot of football lately i think
The last interview with Lando was brutal where he said It could get worse as well [compared to other teams probably]. Not so convinced personally that McLaren is on top of their problems
Well of course that could happen but lando has really been on some sort of depression bender since the start of the season, so I wouldn’t read too much into it
Facts. I’ve been paying ZERO attention to media based on mclarens performance, the lando interview was ALL you needed to see to know what mclaren is gonna do this season; and that’s probably not much. Media ain’t covering the interview AT ALL. Can’t have social medias favorite team looking bad now can we?
Yea he has been really vocal about how much he disliked the performance.. i guess that's just Lando being Lando .. he has a long contract (allegedly without an exit clause, but i find that unlikely), with how good they looked in preseason it's sad to see em struggle in real race pace
@@ciggy_ I don’t think it is a depression bender. McLaren has been on the rise since he got there and expectations are higher than just squeezing into the top 10. They are used to being in the fight for the podium or 1 mistake from a podium. I think he is just frustrated that they are starting behind so far from the front.
During testing we all thought maclaren had a handle on porpoising. Turns out they were so slow they they didn’t have to even worry about it
April fools was 3 days ago fellas
You win the comment of the day
my point too
They opted for a different approach to the new rules vs the other teams. It was a gamble, and they lost. Sucks. Hope they can turn it around.
How does their approach differ?
@@klemenkastrevc8600 different floor design i think, and they have different front and rear suspension designs to almost everyone else
@@antonygibson_ redbull went similar path eith suspension and are killing it
They could had learned with the last time they gamble with that GP2 engine 😂
@@josephfailla3955 idk im just offering my opinion. I guess its a combination of the front brake issues, the unusual floor design (stronger vortices i think. watch the 'The Race' video on it) and the slower Mercedes engine
Here's the thing, it's a free development race, that's the plus side, there's no token homologation greatly limiting what you can and can't change (save engine) however, there's a budget cap and limited wind tunnel and CFD time so there will be no mass brute forcing resources to get your way through to a fix.
There isn't brute force but at the halfway point the wind tunnel and CFD allocations reset based on positions so in the second half of the season they might get a boost to resources
Can someone pls illuminate me on how the engine homologation is working? I heard that its locked until 2025, but then in bunch of places I heard mention of a chance to improve it until September, what's the deal?
@@jamescurrie01 parts are homologated already, mainly the combustion engine part. Other powertrain elements like I think MGU and some battery stuff are homologated in September. Engines can be upgraded after homologation for reliability reasons, but only if all manufacturers agree to it.
@@lonyo5377 thank you! that's a great explanation.
I fear similar to cutting back on actual testing was intended to reduce costs and it sort of did until the teams with money started tossing hundreds of millions into wind tunnels and the CFD... Any time there are rules these very clever people find ways around so all rules need to be continuously measured against the intended result (and unintended).
It's a stretch to imagine them competing to win, but they could land top 5 after a full year.
It's two race in dude
@@jtwjtw1996 Lando himself said that it would take a long time to fix the car, dude.
🤷 Lando is good but that’s a big if.
nah it’s def possible
No, it's sauber time
I'm not sure about that... but let's see
Daniel is headed to a career as an on air sports announcer. He has the perfect personality.
while mclaren is trying to catch up, all top teams are trying to improve even more. Pray for McLaren
It's just the Google Chrome wheel hubs that are slowing em down.. just don't use chrome
McLaren, like Ferrari is running a car that is widely similar to the one presented in February. That means that they have obtained a lot of data of the intrinsic characteristics of the car in its current form and it's easier for them to know where to focus. The upgrades they will (eventually) introduce in the first part of the season will be critical for them as they will see if the direction they have taken are correct, but if they are still a team that can react efficiently, while not forgetting that upgrades will be a rare treat in the coming years.
There is just a little difference between Mclaren and Ferrari : Ferrari has a championship-worthy car, Mclaren has a maybe Q2-worthy car
We still have to see how cars work at wet track (race/Q pace I mean - some slow-ish cars might turn out competive) and also how deep development options are for each "philosophy".
Wet races are usually higher downforce, if the Mclaren doesn't have any of that they're fucked in the Wet.
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A lucky win like Hungary 2021 or Monza 2020? Probably. A win on pure pace like Monza 2021 or fighting for a win on merit like Russia 2021? LOL wishful thinking.
They could win in the new F1 2022 Game, but in real life… difficult
How far McLaren have fallen , from winning multiple world championships, to scraping in the points , as a McLaren fan since the 80s it's painful to watch.
I switch to McLaren after imola 94 and there's one thing you have to remember, it's not the same team anymore Dennis , brawn have gone it's not the same team only by name .
I'd go bk to Williams but Frank isn't there anymore and I don't back filthy lowlife capitalist scum
Imagine how Williams fans feel
@@HarryCrackz At least Williams fans can find comfort in the fact that the team is still broke AF and is in the process of rebuilding. McLaren are well funded, have state of the art facilities and yet their car is a shitbox.
we've had worse times before. I have hope.
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McLaren, the most underperforming team in sport.
So tired of the line, it will take time, this is all we've heard for years.
This will be the 14th year they aren't in the championship fight
While it is true that McLaren typically can easily out develop Aston Martin, Williams, Alpine, AlphaTauri, Alfa Romeo, and Haas throughout a full season campaign; there is a lot of pace to make up. McLaren isn’t porpoising because they don’t even make enough downforce to porpoise.
It's nice to have an air of unpredictability in F1 again. While it's clear McLaren are off the pace and need to push on that development, but it's also clear that other teams are struggling. It could be that whatever is holding back McLaren is something they can fix much more simply than the issues facing Aston or Mercedes. It's probably likely it will be a two way shootout between Ferrari and Red Bull but the arms race is going to be exciting to watch nonetheless
That's a very valid point of view. I was actually surprised at how much they improved for the second race. And since you mention them, one only needs to see the improvement made by AM in the same time, which was... very little, imo.
People are quick to count them out it seems
Given the trajectory over recent years ever since 2017 this is nothing more than a misstep
There's a development race as well, so we'll see where they end up at the end of the season and going into '23
Daniel giving his fans some false hope as per usual 😂
7th out of 13 finishers isn’t impressive. I really thought McLaren would be up at the sharp end but I am very disappointed in their performance.
They weren't going to finish any lower without the retirements dude. Maybe 8th if everyone finished.
I think we might see a reshuffle of the order in Australia.
Agreed. Also Europe/cooler tracks are gonna be fascinating to see. Still worried about McLaren.
what makes you "think" that...??
@@stratman9449
Teams have had a bit of time to assess their cars and develop some improvements during the two week break. For instance, I heard Mercedes have a new floor design for Australia.
@@idkjustchangingmyname7343
Hopefully McLaren have been able to develop a better solution for their brake ducts at least. They seemed to go really down hill after discovering the issue and never really had significant time to address it properly.
@@Son-Of-Gillean same old McLaren for the past 4-5 years , turn up at Barca with a semi competitive car or with everything turned up . Then creep along without much upgrades then after the 3 week break come back with a few upgrades finishing a strong 3-4 towards the end of the season .
Then building up hopes for the upcoming season ( ie 2023) and then repeating the process .
I live 10 minutes from the MTC McLaren hq , when I drive past I used to think " let's go " now I drive past and think " what a shame "
Been a F1 fan since 89 and I never thought one of my childhood hero's would end up like this , same could be said for Williams tbh .
They are the only team that is not using all of the floor entry tunnels to force and direct air under the car, they have this feature that pulls air UP from the ground around the front/underside of the sidepod, so it's not shocking they are missing a large amount of downforce.
and my ONLY hope as a McLaren fan is that when James Key said they have parts that if they put on give them the bouncing and that hopefully is the tunnel entry area and hopefully they can add a large amount of downforce back when they get their suspension setups figured out
To be fair, they've already won the fastest pitstop
I love Daniels optimism. It’s still early.
I really hoped McLaren and Ferrari would step up this year. Shame it was only one of them
Upgrades will result in big improvements this year. Much more than previous years. I have faith they can be a high end midfield team by the end of the year but it’ll take an accident or something very lucky to get a win.
I think they need to reduce the drag on the front wing and increase the DF with ground effect further back
"This new car suited my driving style"
-Daniel Ricciardo Barcelona 2022 testing
Wot? Are you saying Danny Ric won't be winning his Home GP this weekend...........................................................again
afraid so......:-)
I think as with most teams it’s more up to how quickly they get round to understanding their car
Eh idk. I think he said it to not break anyone spirit. Gotta remember that the top dogs are also working to improve. So that makes it hard for McLarens development to catch up and get ahead.
Can't find your league on Grid Rival and it's not in the description?
I would love nothing more than a 4 way fight for championship 👀❤️
If their main problem came from changing their brake ducts changing their initial aero design then it could be posible as it is only one thing but that doesn't seem likely
modest midfield contender... they are in the tail, shure they will improve but also the real midfield
I wont be surprised if McLaren gets 4th or 5th in the championship
Clickbaiters as usual
yup
a season is never fully lost at mclaren
they'll be back, don't you worry
I would be surprised by that chief.. would mean that some how Ferrari, RB and Mercedes would all have an off weekend? I don’t see that happening
And Alpine, and Alfa Romeo, and Haas
You forgot Alpine
@@TheJackOfAllTrades777 it’s a miracle
Well you could have a once in a lifetime opportunity like Hungary 2021 where all the top runners are taken out in one accident.
As a McLaren fan I am highly disappointed with the performance of the car this year. There is no excuse as to way it’s been so bad. I’m not one to call for people to lose their jobs but something has to give… Ridiculous!
Hi Guys,
Could you do a bit of an investigatory piece on the breaking link between F1 & F2 in terms of a route to F1?
Nobody seems to be highlighting this point but in the past 3 years, only 1 champion has graduated the season after they win and being realistic, this season will probably make it 3/4.
It used to be a given that the F2/GP2 champion would get an f1 seat the following season but now it doesn’t seem that way at all and it undermines the whole point of the F3/F2/F1 structure.
Have you guys heard anyone discussing this around the paddock and what do you think could be done about this in the future?
It's simple, talent carries a lot less weight than money.
Piastri has an F1 seat, Alonso is currently sitting in it hence the issue. Alpine won't give him up to another team and they don't have a second team to sit him at like Mercedes, Ferrari, or Red Bull.
pay drivers get priority over graduates, this wasn't always the case until the pandemic hit and as you may not know, Haas, Williams, Racing Point now Aston Martin, and Alpine were all in financial trouble. All of these teams needed emergency funds to stay afloat and even the richest teams like Ferrari and Mercedes suffered huge losses on their revenue. It's more of a recent disconnect as if you notice before 2019, most F2 champions entered F1 i.e. Leclerc, Russell, etc. Things will probably change as time moves on as the bottomline is these teams would rather have drivers that can give them more on pure pace than just financial backing i.e. Latifi
I hope that its "only" a problem of chassis for McLaren, but I fear its also about the Mercedes power unit lack of power....as all Mercedes clients on the grid....!?
I don't think that Ricciardo's words are too far fetched. After all, no team truly has a handle on controlling porpoising. After all, McLaren had an even worse start to a season with revolutionary aerodynamic regulations changes, in 2009, than they have this year (they were nearly 3 seconds off the pace going into that season, yet by round 10 in Hungary, McLaren were race winners again and Hamilton scored more than anyone else from Hungary to Abu Dhabi in 2009
It's not happening
McLaren have been building the full size wind tunnel for like 4 years now.. whats the hold up
Money, or the lack of it, that’s why Audi are looking to buy McLaren…
Daniel really should have stayed at Renault/Alpine and he would be doing better but then if he had of stated at Red Bull he could be winning races this year and last year but instead his carrier has gone backwards. A pity. He is the new Alobso of the grid. I hope he and Mclaren do turn it around do. Be a pity to see him never do well again. He has time on his side do and a good attitude.
Alonso at least won WDCs And WCCs for his team. Dan hasn't
McLaren is a a top 10 team. Every F1 team is.
Williams isn't
Took a gamble on the suspension. Can't be changed now.
Mclaren could gain a lot of downforce from upgrading/redesigning their sidepods. They have no louvres, no dramatic curves or sharp edges to generate or augment airflow and generate downforce.
9:15 He’s indeed just keeping a positive mindset, you’re overanalyzing this.
Best thing a driver could do when you are performing below expectations
when i see the Alpine i still think it's Force India/Racing Point. :p
Same. I was even more confused when I first saw it because I didn’t know Otmar had gone to Alpine so I was wondering why Alpine had it and not Aston Martin.
LETS GO DANNY🔥🔥🤩🤩🤩
at best they finished 3rd at monza on merit...winning from behind a double dnf for the race leaders doesn't mean the car was good.
McLaren & Mercedes both . But if anyone's gonna win for McLaren , I would expect it to be Lando
As a McLaren fan since 89 , all I can say those days are gone different people and different team .
Zack browns been chasing sponcers rather than developing a good car and it shows .
I 100% agree. McLaren in name only these days. They are a disgrace to the proud name of McLaren. Worst design and aero team on the grid with the resources they have.
@@v4vendetta237 for fans it's embarrassing, I would switch to Williams but their not the same since Frank died . There's always Ferrari the only team that's kept their pedigree
@@papayamadness1019 unfortunately I cant switch. William's will make it back from the brink because F1 is their sole focus unlike McLaren. I've always been McLaren and I always will. Andreas and Zak are not capable and should be removed.
@@v4vendetta237 I agree you can't switch even through the bad times but McLaren ... What can I say I was originally a Williams fan but after imola 94 I just couldn't follow Williams anymore so switched to McLaren from then .
You're right about Zak I've always said it ,hes a business man and sport and business don't really gel well .
As far as Andreas is concerned I had high hopes for him , he was involved with BMW when it was BMW Williams they kind of got their act together and pulled out as far as I recall but I could be wrong , Andreas was also at Porsche GT3 during their winning spell but there's something really wrong ,if anything you're right competing in to many advents and master of none
Yes. When other teams DNF through crashes or mechanical failures, Even HAAS can win races.
They are down on power.
McLaren are very resourceful, they will find their pace! Can't wait!
After Norris getting fast enough to get into points (and also being lucky by having so many cars break), i am pretty sure they can.
Slow cars getting to podium and even winning happened before and 100% can happen again.
If they can then so can Haas and Alfa🤗
@@tonymontana4143 ln
I think Dan is eternally optimistic
Maybe they have been sandbagging 😂
@@TOMLINBISH exactly. That’s what sandbagging is!
I absolutely do not believe they can win without any divine intervention from the racing gods…
Agreed they'll probably win the same amount of races as you 🤣
well ocon won a race last year so idk
Tracks like spain and austrailia suit them because of the medium to high speed corners. They are bad in low speed corners and on the straight
As far as his car adaptation is concerned, he’s been very close to Norris in quali despite missing a lot of time in the car, and his race pace has been better than Lando in both races.
With the performances Ricardo has put up, not a chance
The biggest questions for 2022 season imo:
- Can McLaren return to the top spot and at quicker pace? (Mountain leap level of comeback)
- How long can Haas stayed inside the top 10 given how they have no sponsorship money to keep them afloat easily?
- Can Alfa Romeo keep their pace consistent?
- When will Ferrari and Red Bull show the true pace of their cars? (Ferrari is currently not running their engine on it's normal settings whilst Red Bull is currently exceeding the maximum weight limit by 15kg the same as Mercedes)
- Can Mercedes bounce back before Red Bull and Ferrari becoming too far to catch up? (statistically)
Damn daniel have won his first the after 8 and half year according to the race
There's always rain I suppose to mix things up
Scenes if Daniel leads a 1-2 in Australia for McLaren
Positive is that the car is very neutral from what the drivers are saying, they both say the car feels good. More grip and more performance and they could be on for decent finishes. A win is a bit much, but the car as a base does seem solid, Ricciardo doesn’t seem to struggle with it.
Is kinda ironic that an open wheel car can suffer of brake cooling problems
Ricciardo "I still believe in the team" is a direct dig at Lando Norris. Lando's attitude to the team lately has been crap at best. Daniel is showing himself as a team player in a time where it's really needed.
Not sure how that's a dig, Lando is just being honest about the team's performances
@@Holoflux No, Lando is being dramatic and losing objectivity. It's his MO. It's early days and he's jumping to conclusions. I love the guy but he's quick to jump in the deep end of misery.
Not sure about 20222 (thumbnail), one would hope that humanity lives that long (far fetched)
I like Ricciardo, I hope the team are able to give him a decent fuking car.
Daniel ricciardo is the king of unlucky team changes.
Exposure levels cranked up for Danny boy
Wish I was smoking what Riccardo got.... must be some strong shit.
me to
All 3 Mercedes customer teams are right at the back and Mercedes itself is a midfield team at best. That suggests to me an engine power deficit. Now way all 4 teams have missed the aerodynamics that badly
Mercedes are closer to the front then Midfield. While the PU suggests the customers are struggling the works Mercedes isn't that far off suggests it's still aero to be more to blame than engine. Even Lando agrees it's the aero of their car is what's the greatly gains are needed and not the lack of engine.
@@Ghost-hj5jy I kinda agree but the works Mercedes team is almost a second behind. Perhaps more
All i can see is that some how the Mercedes powered car's became slow. Its not like the other middle field teams have become fast and closed gap to top teams, atleast thats what it looks like, these four teams have dropped back.
As a mclaren fan I hope Danny is right 🤞 however it's not the best start for any of the merc powered cars
I feel sorry for Mclaren fans as they were looking really good for this season and then unfortunately the car is not where many expected.
There is so much to understand and gain in 2022. I am sure that Mclaren will grow rapidly after a few races.
Having not watched this yet, this seems like an absurd topic along the lines of How Many Podiums will Latiffi get? I'll watch, but given the first two races and Mercedes engine seeming to be the least powerful, this seems very unlikely.
if there are "podiums" for crashing into the wall and turning a race result upside down, yes then Latifi will be on the podium every time......-)
If Daniel Ricciardo says something may happen, you better believe it will happen!
I would be very very surprised
Well done Daniel Ricciardo today for getting into 6th position
Also all the car retirements helped them out. Not sold on any opinions in this video haha
If they sort out the chassis, maybe.
Mclaren and Ferrari have a long history of talking a lot and so called investing a lot without any wow result. Let’s see
Well Ferrari has come from struggling to pass Q2 to lead the championships in just 2 years, so their investment is surely not lost.
Edge of Q3, my life story.
Shoulda just sucked it up n stayed with red bull
yep.
I think he regrets that more than anyone else lol
@@totalmadnesman everya where he been the team died and got better when he left so I guess he's trying to stick it out
Maybe Riccardo was referring to IndyCar.
I'm just not entirely sure yet as to what is going on with McLaren. I still have the felling a bit like Mercedes they have a strong package but had some serious issues that took them back by a lot.
Give it some time maybe they can find solutions that doesn't cut the entire performance of the car.
2:13 it must reastablish itself as a top 10 team out of 10 teams…
I think he had to say top tier team or something else 😂
They meant a top ten team, as in both cars finishing in the top ten on pace each race.
Finishing within the top 10 positions
@@sekou3758 oh yeahhhh that makes sense 😂
Norris is currently 10th with Ricciardo at 19th while McLaren is 8th out of 10 on the constructors category.
new regulations every team is going to find gains but now Mclaren are going to have to find twice as much as the the top teams, does anyone think that possible?