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- An informer speaks about their experience of the London swinging scene. Sex parties can provide a great outlet for sexual freedom and positive, consensual experiences. However, they can also become an all-consuming obsession or a tool for abuse in coercive controlling relationships.
Informer is a series where we hear the anonymized confessions and insights of people in positions of power on the inside of important institutions.
00:00 Intro
00:26 What is the Swinger Lifestyle?
01:45 Orgy Etiquette
02:48 What Sex Parties Have You Been To?
04:11 The Dark Side of Swinging
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When I go to a party I just end up eating cake in the corner and talking to strangers about my holiday plans.
A lot of people do.
Much better
That’s my preference for a party. Food and drinks and wholesome small talk. Some laughter.
Oh yay! You're so virtuous!
@@khweziza5397 yes. It feels good to not need to wear a rubber mask when I want to talk about my lifestyle.
‘It’s a space where people can really convince themselves that they are ok with things that they are not.’ Interesting observation.
Self-Gaslighting.
sounds like polyamorous youtube
uh sounds like church and real life
Sounds like forcing yourself into wickedness for the sake of public approval even if you feel bad about it. Ive felt this with sexual partners in the past. Truly sickening and anti humane.
@@PolishBehemoth I suspect the "public" in "public approval" are groups of sociopaths and their ilk that these people associate with to make themselves feel better. Some people are desperate to "keep up with the Joneses", even if the Joneses are crooks and psychos. It's terrible. It's like being in a Cult.
This sounds like a introverts worst nightmare.
😂
As an introvert, besides it being completely degenerate, yes it is the worst nightmare, Unironically.
@@cuber5003 🤣🤣
yeah I would probably be completely creeped out and leave within minutes of arriving. this crap is totally over the top hedonism
I would just be in a corner thinking about my next Elden Ring build or something 🤔
Imagine the STDs being passed around , both sexually and spiritually. Be safe out there.
They'd probably get sued and shut down if they don't require a paper from the clinic from their clients
@@Pllayer064 in my experience and knowledge, they don’t require that
@@Pllayer064 I've been to multiple sex parties before as an observer. They definitely don't check that ever
@@Pllayer064😂 I don't know where you're from, but in The UK swinger clubs don't ask for any proof of clear STD's. They sell condoms, and also recommend you bring your own, but that's it.
Doxypep is out now. Reduces STDs transmission rates as much as 50% for syphilis and gono, and 88% for chlamydia.
Honestly, just sounds like a lot of effort for hedonism
Yeah like the Japanese culture isn’t known for that. You hypocrite
We can only hope
then it's not hedonism, all this sounds pretty awful.
I'm happy just having one partner to give all my love to. These people seem genuinely unhappy.
it's not effort for the bored zionist elite that produce this garbage. he didn't mention the children involved.
this is a lifestyle that I'm happy to know very little about..
Well you sound boring
yet you saw the title and clicked the video, watched and engaged with the comments. Proabably touched yourself a few times too. But it feels less dirty if you post a judgy comment.
@@fundifferent1Your sexualized brain just can't imagine watching a TH-cam video without touching yourself lol
@@jamess6719 butthurt old swinger detected
@@fundifferent1 found the 60 year old snowflake
Every swinger I've known was about as attractive as the average employee at the DMV. They tend to have dull personalities and a real needy energy about them.
No lies detected 😂 I know two ✌ couples that use to be in these clubs and they asked me and my partner at the time if we were interested and it was a big no. I definitely would've been the one losing out in the situation.
Yep same here. Some ugly couple wanting to get my wife interested. @@WiLLy2xs
Agreed most if not all people that I've met in those lifestyles we're old unattractive with off-putting personalities. It probably has to do with where I live though. Florida is where America's old people go to live their best life before they die. The Villages being a perfect example not the only example however, it's everywhere.
most women in their 40s clinging onto youth
@@cmh9932 Florida is America's syphilitic wang, after all... ;)
I cant begin to imagine the STINK of those "get togethers". 🤢🤮
Yes!🧟♂️🧟♀️
Gwaf I'm hollin😂😂😂😂😂😂
Whatever you do don't sit on the furniture
Ass juice, body odor and fish smell 🤮😂😂😂
A late friend of mine, who worked for Hugh Hefner in New York in around 1966-70 (and attended a number of his orgies), said the same thing.
And that the men with small wieners (usually the majority) would sometimes become hostile if they saw you were packing.
One of the best vacations I ever had was to Birmingham. No orgies or sex involved, but lots else to do, some lovely art, aquarium, pen museum.
Lmao
Congrats lol
Okay? Ahah
My best vacation was not going to Birmingham.
Birmingham, Alabama has all of the above and the orgies all conveniently offered at a typical family reunion! Roll Tide!
Talking about that woman who was uncomfortable knowing her partner was next to her with someone else is pretty sad. Power to people genuinely enjoying it, but it seems like many folks are just traumatizing themselves
she felt sad..... as she was under someone else "playing". what a dumbarse...
Can't be good for you mentally
I mean wasn't that person literally having sex with someone else at the exact same moment? That was a laughable example
@@maximilianomadrigal6661 the girl was having sex with someone else at the exact same moment but from what it sounds like she wasn't enjoying the experience but also watching her boyfriend railing another bird in front of her probably made her feel even worse. Like my uncle used to say (he was a heavy swinger back in his days) "swingers clubs are meant for single people, not for couple's therapy" lmao and it's so true. I hear it time and time again of couples fighting or breaking up because they wanted to experience other ways of exciting themselves sexually and it all goes tits up (pun intended ironically) on their first experience. I've personally been to a few when I was single and it was a lot of fun and it healed me from my break up with my ex because she cheated on my 3 times with people we knew for years the smelly cow.
@paparoach007 sorry she done that to you. Love youre user name though lol
This sounds like something from a nightmare.
The monkey life is a nightmare where they are the hero coming to save the day by jumping into the freak off. But she didn't mean to. Lol
@@Erica-cf1xb I mean, religious texts call this type of behavior wicked for a reason. In their own eyes these people think they're good and upright but in reality their ways are twisted.
@@Erica-cf1xbis this english
Someone elses nightmare, is another persons paradise.
@@stoiccrane4259 Not true. In esoteric traditions sex orgies are permitted. In any event, If you can control someones sex drive, you control their whole life.
So it's basically like playing a sick game of twister but after your done you are covered in body fluids with a stranger loose pubic hairs tangled with your owns.
And?
These people that do this don't mind it. They're having a good time.
So gross
...that's......that's the point
@@PresidentKamalaHarris. And well you will most likely have a std, even if condoms are used. Things like gonorrhea, syphilis, chlamydia, HPV can all be transferred very easy even wearing condoms, also from oral/kissing/saliva. Not to mention there is no test or cure for HPV and can cause cancer.
I’ve got zero desire to mix with the kind of people that are into this
No less risky than modern hook-up culture 😅
@@Kels12368 it’s not about risk. It’s the general sleaziness of it. At least with hookups there is generally some conversation leading into it than just making eye contact with someone and gesturing for their dick to enter you
@@Kels12368 That is also gross and should also be illegal.
@@clericaltotalitarian Yeah, adults shouldn't be able to have sex with other adults!!! Hahaha
@@Kels12368 Not that, i said hook-up culture.
i think the correct term is 'superspreader event'
Yup popularized by unmasked trump rallies
I agree
Happening to be a carrier of COVID would make it even more so xD :P
@@handlemonium imagine getting gonorrhea, herpes, covid and the flu in the same day
@@handlemoniumcovid is probably one of the least concern
I've no doubt in my mind some of the saddest people attend these 'parties'. Kindoff like that Black Mirror episode where people in a club try hard to feel anything through hedonism.
absolutly my thoughts bud
Typically women in their 40s whose husband have erectile dysfunction. I'm with a married 47 year old chick now that admitted it to me. I have hard suspicions she's a swinger. Because of the locations she goes for vacation. She also likes going on cruises which are filled with swingers. Stay away from chicks that like going on cruises without you.
100% people with major self esteem issues, personality disorders, drug problems and depression.
What episode is this?
@@khanabychkova5265 San Junipero if I'm not mistaken.
People are free to do as they please but I guarantee these practices catch up with you and leave you broken
Thank you!
Who gonna catch them if everyone is wearing a white mask? That's snitching and against the rules.
*will…
Broken?why?
@@krisgrymbecause it shameful and not good for your mental and physical health.
I've always been curious about the dynamics of swinger parties. It's fascinating to see different perspectives and experiences.
You should check out the FetLife life style groups if you're interested
how you got 6 mil
Yea sin is super interesting
@@chris64kbots cant make a question like this on a video like this without much human interaction
Smart gadgets warehouse
2:55 Perhaps "itch" wasn't the best word to use in such a topic. LOL
Its actually very accurate
I thought that as well lmao. When she said "I got an itch" I thought I bet you f*cking have xD
Ya that’s when the color grading changed for me
@@realSimoneCherie A slave to sexual impulse. Like a dog barking at a car.
Yup the story did not go in the direction I expected
The mask wasn't for disguise. She just came straight from the club...
Edit: she
you mean she
You can see it's a woman
@@galaxseeyou mean a gay man?
@@austinbaer5559 no, no, woman for sure. You can see the moves. And what she says also. No man would say things like this.
It’s a she
2:30 Imagine putting "Orgy Monitor" on a job app😂
Sound hilarious I imagine a referee with a whistle tossing yellow or red flags
Where do I apply ⁉️
@@92bagderif you showed up to one of those parties I’m sure we would laugh you out the room
@@The_Quaaludeare you promoting harmful substances in your username?
@@PresidentKamalaHarris. yes
I, at 21, had the opportunity to take a free cruise with a couple buds. There was literally dozens of offers to swing. Every single person was at least double our age, some triple. The smiles on the husbands faces while they talked about it was some of the creepiest stuff ever. Some of the wives had the persona of lets get this over with to make him happy and get on with our lives. Looking back it was hilarious.
So how was the swinging?
Where do we sign up, don't be stingy.
@@wayfaringstranger8430hedonism cruise. You're welcome.
@@wayfaringstranger8430also look up any lifestyle resort or lifestyle cruise.
Lmao what cruise line?
Y’all need God
There's nothing sinful going on here
There is @@noegonzalez6555
Amen 🎉Ashàe
Absolutely brother,
Exactly
Eyes wide shut
Fiction movie with fake settings. Conspiracy theory
Movie based on a true events💀
Was just thinking about that
Epstiens case begs to differ, plus the following cover up on clientele@@PresidentKamalaHarris.
Only difference is that Eyes wide shut was a pedo thing with reference to underage kids.
I searched TH-cam for a 3D printed Stanley Cup and this popped up in my feed!
That's what I would bring to the club.
😂😂😂😂
Some videos are pushed into your feed because of paid promotion.
VICE is paying to get this video to show up in everyone's feed from a certain age, geographic region, etc.
it pooped up?
@@theonlinecrunch7874Well I bet there's definitely poop involved sometimes......unintentionally 😏
There are no boundaries effectively through communication in these areas. Too many conflicting parts, people, emotions, mind state..etc. just like these polygamous relationships. Always conflicts in those relationships. Jealously, spite, manipulation, greed, anger...all the worst emotions come out and that's how people get hurt for seeking pleasure with strangers.
I've had many opportunities to join a group orgy but have never had the desire to act on it. To me sex is a spiritual experience that should be respected and shared with your soulmate or twin flame. I think it would be spiritual exhausting sharing your partner with so many other people, and then taking on their energy afterwards. I think people who are non-monogamous end up forgetting how to have that true connection with their primary partner, cause sex is so tainted, and that's the only dynamic of a relationship they have is just based around sex.
I've had many opportunities to join in a group orgy too.
And I took every single one of them!🤣😁
This would just apply to swingers, not all non-monogamous people.
True, although there is considerable overlap these days. Plenty of us who have poly relationships also participate in swinging.
I'd love to do it but I'm too self conscious about my small man boobs, which I have despite not really being particularly overweight (I need to lose about 5kg apparently), so I'll never do it
losing connection with self through the process too?
Thinking you live a fulfilling life but in actuality it's a hollow existence
Theres literally a few ppl we can all think of who:
1. outright own super yachts
2. can book the fanciest of hotels np
(and do weird things in those rooms...yuck)
3. Frequent Sex Parties $75K/year
(minimum)
4. Also are mega rich + have publically "clean" images
Vice does a great job shedding light on the more lascivious versions of life and the folks w/ money that frequent those sides.
Sexual experiences like swinging/swingers clubs have been happening for millennia, sex was a very popular commodity back in the days of the Roman Empire, Victorian Era etc.. because it allowed the poorer people in societies to earn a living. These days mainly in America sex has become far too expensive and more dangerous. In Amsterdam's Red Light District it used to be around $80-$120, now it's at $180-350 depending on where you go. Sex is a natural thing for us to do and appreciate but these days all of it has changed and not in a good way.
@@paparoach007 It's people who perverted it.
@stoiccrane4259 people "perverted" swinging?? Pretty sure it was already perverted 😂
@@paparoach007 I'm afraid your way of looking at it is false.
There are consequences to women that enjoy sex, and rewards for men that do the same.
thank you for that ancient goat-enjoyer wisdom
Just imagine the smell after awhile😳
Like a gym or any other place with large body of people. Try going to a GameStop or anime convention.
@@PresidentKamalaHarris. You've never had sex have you
🤢🤮
@@PresidentKamalaHarris. Lol
@@oohweeoohwee9222same with trump rallies
Sex for sex is no fun. People think they can do away with their emotions but it only works for psychopaths.
Many people have casual sex all the time. It can be great fun, and it can feel empty, but sex without emotional entanglement is not relegated to psychopaths. I had fun experimenting while young and have been in a loving, exclusive relationship for nearly two decades.
Ppl who like dark rooms would not agree 😅
pretty easy when you have your life set up far as good relationships with people in your life hobbies/passions. So added sex on the side without the big emotional labor of a full relationship with others on the same page is easy and fun. All the chicks i hooked with wanted the same, few times i thought of wanting more with a few but i knew we only mainly allied sexually so i didnt push for more.
@@dereknueveunowhat ever helps you sleep at night! Emotional labour? So you want to be alone?
The stretch of the century
It just makes me feel sick and sad and I want to cry. It is not about what is normal or not, it is about people changing value of love and intimacy to value of unlimited sex... hard to put my thoughts together, but it feels and sounds wrong.
There's a very easy solution to your dilemma: Don't get involved with it if it's not your thing.
@@kenofken9458there’s a better solution, making this illegal to avoid issues.
yeah I love swinging. it's [describes trauma, abuse and discomfort for six minutes]
"Eyes Wide Shut" was a documentary.
Change my mind.
That movie was silly AF to those of us in the actual swinging lifestyle.
@@kenofken9458was it super immaculate?
Craigslist: FREE 10x near new mattresses
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ay😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Finally!!!!!! After a longtime VICE is back again, with it's "INFORMER" series.
It’s a reupload
damn @@partysmoke
I used to be with someone who was very much into that scene. They said they were polyamorous (and I am not, they said they were going to be exclusive to me), but they continued to go to kink clubs and pressure me to go with them all the time because it’s their lifestyle and I should partake into things they like.
I was never comfortable with the idea of “sharing”, being touched by others, or watching others do things. I feel as though in those situations, it is not “Don’t knock it if you hadn’t tried it”. That doesn’t apply here.
Long story short, they came back home one night and got de dressed for bed, and They were COVERED in bite marks, hickies, and they smelt like other people (that particular sweaty smell that’s mixed with other stuff). They told me they wouldn’t, and they did. I packed my bags a week after and moved away
I found out the caught HSV and are still going to those clubs to this day. So I dodged a major bullet.
Some clubs done check for STDs and people don’t care…
Some sickos in the world.
Clearly, but hey, "you should not judge" lol
this is so tame compared to the other vids vice has made lmao
To each their own i suppose, but all of this is fucking disgusting honestly. Not to mention the emotional damage and baggage that inevitably ensues for people engaging in this sort of sexual promiscuity and debauchery.
Yes, brother. A twisted degradation of life for cheap thrills and dopamine spikes. Imagine all of the good these people could actually direct their attention and resources to instead of living to disperse their own filth and fluid among strangers.
Especially the hyper-affluent with the material wealth of nations. To whom much is given much is expected and they fall so erroneously short of the mark. Existing for ego instead of the All. We all have our struggles with vice and temptation but they relish in theirs!
@@stoiccrane4259 well spoken. Yes, I have had many many many struggles myself. We all suffer from one sort of temptation or another. Drugs are one thing for sure, but physically mixing bodily fluids with strangers let alone multiple strangers at once is beyond the pale imo. All else is arguably a personal issue or struggle but the entire sex for sexs' sake is nasty af. At least with drugs the high lasts longer I suppose but all of these sexual deviants and "free lovers" are all such broken people, not that I don't understand and empathize to a degree but damn, an "orgy pile"?????!!!!!! WTF. If someone thinks that's OK and an acceptable risk etc than there isn't anything I could say that would help them pull their head out of their ass. The most intimate and physically personal thing you could do or share with someone and these nasty fuckers act like young rabbits.......ughhhhhh no thanks.
It seems cultish and just disgusting
The combination of the mask, the tone of the informer’s voice, their accent, and speaking cadence/rhythm that makes this audio totally incomprehensible to me. There’s nothing wrong with their voice; it’s the combination of factors that makes them sound like Charlie Brown’s teacher.
The voice is intentionally messed up in order not to like it. This is feminism for you.
@@stefanostokatlidis4861 WTF
@@stefanostokatlidis4861 whaat?😂
@@stefanostokatlidis4861what 😂
@@stefanostokatlidis4861 Bro???
Swinging is the right space to feel inadequate about yourself and uselessly chase after validation.
Didn’t realize how upset this topic would make people in the comments. Considering how many awful things this series has covered, this is fairly benign.
"What's the password"
"Oooooooorrrrrggggggggy."
Dude, don’t embarrass yourself, they changed it to “orgy pile”
Great always sunny reference
“Oh I come here for the free snacks”
Doing this once will make you depressed for life
That's why I do it regularly🤣
If you are really, really, really emotional fragile. And if you are, something else will make you depressed for life if it isn't that.
@@milascave2is better to be depressed because of the regret of not doing something în the past when you could (like doing a bungee jumping or seeing a movie with friends you were invite but redused) than being depressed that you did something unhumane as an orgy.
"Quo Quobbicka Quo Quo Quo."
"YES-Miss Othmar??"
Charles SCHULTZ...What a Genius.
why depressed? cause normal sex will never be as fulfilling?
Not much different from Sodom and Gomorrah.
Treating sex this way shares a lot of parallels with shooting up larger and larger methamphetamine doses because the dose you used to take is dull like water.
detox every now and then
Very sad and dark times for the world.
You should read up on what the Romans and Greeks were into, this is nothing new.
@@nwmacguy stop. Ain't no way you being serious
This sort of thing has always existed, and it's not common. What is actually sad and widespread is...well, just watch or read Vice. It's a problem and it's everywhere. Society is sick. Up means down now
@@bigguyCI-hn9nzhe is. The Romans had giant orgies for saturnalia
the funniest thing I ever heard was in a documentary about either hugh hefner or larry flynt and the guy was reminiscing on the wildness of the 60s, he was clearly on the zesty side of things and the way you could see him fondly remember participating in what he called a "gravy train".....to this day I never want or need to know whatever that means. 😆Ppl nasty bruh. I mean have fun, but damn....call me modest. No other trees in my forest please. I couldn't even imagine.
Lol
well, urban dictionary says a gravy train is like a job or agreement that's very easy but also lucrative. there was only one sexual definition which was definitely wrong, since that sexual act has another name.
Well, I know what a "train" means. It is when one woman gets fracked by a bunch of guys, one after another. I imagine that "gravely train" refers to that or something similar.
Ppl nasty af
The gravy train reference would basically mean whatever was happening was happening in abundance. But yes, nasty.
I think the only people who truly enjoy it fully are psychopaths. The rest are those seeking escape or fulfillment through hedonistic pleasure only to find themselves caught up in addictions that are not conducive to contentment but rather stimulates endless craving, which is a hell in its own.
What the heck are you talking about? Why does it matter as long as everyone is a consenting adult. In this world, there are much more important things you should be concerned about
@@Kels12368 There are much more important things you should be concerned about other than my comment.
That's a gross overgeneralization. Please, there are tons of countless married, monogamous psychopaths out there.
@@AC-nw8cq Didn’t say there weren’t psychopaths elsewhere. So what’s your argument?
@@geoffy8245having internet arguments isn't worth it
It’s all out there - good and bad, all I can say is be careful. It’s a minefield out there.
Why do ominous music! And vibe 🤣
Show me a journalistic video without it !! 🤣. And this one with a sort of 'latest James Bond set & villain ' aesthetics... at least 50% of journalistic videos are actually 'nothing creatively dressed as drama'.
@@simon3314the music fits the scene perfectly. Mysterious and yet cautiously inviting.
Need some stock ukelele music to lighten up the vibe
@@remixisthis 🤣
@@remixisthis😂😂😂
As someone who’s a decently attractive and has been approached for said “parties” I can honestly say that sounds like an absolute horrid time and nothing I wanna be apart of.. a bunch of effort just to defile yourself
the image randomly turning into negative with part of what he said in big font became increasingly funny when it emphasized things like "WHOLE RESORTS" and "UNWANTED 24/7 SEX" lmao.
It's a she
Way to make a fundamentally enjoyable experience feel like an angsty, exhausting chore 🙄 The desperation is palpable.
that's what i'm saying! i know for a fact that there are shitty sex clubs and shitty people who attend them but there are still incredible places out there for consenting kinky people to open up and explore the pleasure in this world
Exactly @@ajaxjaxxy3537
Preach!
Lmao cope
Oh, the literature !
I’m so happy that I’ve NEVER been interested in this type of debauchery. Ur not just taking huge health risks but ur opening a portal to every spiritual infirmity that all these ppl have that u have no clue about.
Romans 1:24 "So God abandoned them to do whatever shameful things their hearts desired. As a result, they did vile and degrading things with each other’s bodies."
Amen. In Jesus' mighty name‼️ Thanks for the verse, brother.
The health risks are very low if you use condoms. It's more about the mental health of women who might get talked into it by partners and not really want to. I don't think many men are affected badly, but I'm just guessing
I experienced swinging in three different countries.Swingers in my experience were jealous,insecure,prudish with more rules and regulations than a West Australian mine site or a local council.Among the most sexually unliberated people imaginable.The complete opposite of what I expected.
Tell me you were the unsafe person that got asked to leave, without telling me you were the unsafe person that got asked to leave...
@@lucidnonsense942 So your the prude who wont admit they are a prude.No the opposite.I was simply liberal minded unlike most swingers.Also hard to ask someone to leave events they were hosting so I just mostly sat out while the double vanilla with extra vanilla"Sexually Non Liberated" did their vanilla thing.Hard to be unsafe when your not even turned on.
@@lucidnonsense942I do not condone and am immediately repulsed by people who engage in this lifestyle but your comment was too fucking funny. +1 like
@@ithinkimhipster502 Why be repulsed at the voluntary actions of others? If you saw how prudish many swingers are you would pity them not be repulsed.
@@lucidnonsense942 You sound like the prude in chief.I assume been UNSAFE,a very OH&S term is simply having a sex drive.Swingers are by and large people to stingy to hire escorts, that would be more honest.
My opinion on sex parties/orgies/swingers/etc. is this: As long as everyone is over 18, consenting, & are enjoying doing whatever tickles their fancy, then I'm happy knowing that they're having a good time. I'm not particularly interested in these activities & I've never personally been party to such events, but it's nobody's business what consenting adults do with/to each other.
I feel the exact same way about religions, sexual preferences, skin color, & pretty much everything else. There are 2 things that I wish could somehow be regulated though...
1) People should have to be properly educated, informed, consenting & proven capable of having & raising children (aka "we need a lifeguard at the Gene Pool" theory lol)
2) Politicians being limited to a certain amount of time in office, a salary cap, and criminalizing the act of voting for themselves to get a raise, especially when they keep cutting funds on important things & shutting down government workers due to our ridiculously immense amount of debt.
Just my opinion though!!! 🧐🧐🧐
Yah that'd be great if stds didn't exists, in reality that's ridculous
With regards to politicians, the issue is that most of those things aren't actually the source of political corruption. The main issue with politicians is the fact that every wealthy and powerful organization or entity who has a vested interest in an issue will bribe the representative one way or another in order to have them vote according to their desires. AKA, Lobbying. That's why, ironic and backwards as it may seem, there's actually evidence to suggest politicians being better paid actually *reduces* corruption and results in better political representation. Obviously, though, that's not ideal, as paying politicians an exorbitant amount of money in the hopes that companies aren't willing to bribe them even more doesn't really track.
This is compounded by the fact that, important consideration, if you need to get your name out and have thousands of people vote for you to win a seat in office, how do you do that? Obviously, advertising. How do you get that advertising? You pay hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars to campaign. You're not going to get that solely via donations. If you want to have success, you have to accept "Generous donations" from these same wealthy entities who have a vested interest in certain decisions being made. End result, it's literally impossible to become a politician, specifically in the U.S., without already being corrupt by the time you win the seat.
Now, I'm not saying I know the solution. I don't. But the single biggest thing that would "Fix" the political system instantly would be if the most powerful players in the economy were incapable of directly interacting with our political figures. How do you achieve that? No clue. Perhaps make a political campaign fund paid by taxpayer dollars, and ban all private or donated funding. Sequester all Federal politicians and their direct families in a dedicated section of Washington D.C. until their time in office is up, with no direct access to anyone except government employees? Perhaps, though maybe a bit extreme. Allow for politicians to make incredible amounts of money, based upon approval ratings and other positive metrics of their constituents, in order to encourage pursuing the needs of the people above all else? Just spitballing ideas. Maybe some that are particularly dystopian, but maybe that's what's necessary. Either way, the primary source of our political woes come down to who *really* pays the paycheck of our politicians, and it has nothing to do with their official salary.
Our opinions align
I like sex, but this makes it gross to me
I like money i like sex 🎉
Then don't do it. Keep watching videos about it and writing "eww" in the comments.
@@fundifferent1 I meant sex parties with strangers of unknown origins and health status. And most likely, unsavory sexual prowess. That's the gross part.
@@fundifferent1 it’s gross. Old bored people wanting to get it on. And sex addicts. It’s ew
I think that this person is talking about my place of employment.
I took a course in abnormal psychology in college. The instructor stated that people who are normal have monogamous relationships between a man and a woman, it is the healthiest lifestyle psychologically. Swingers would tend to be people who are nymphomaniacs or people who do not care who they sleep with, a low moral compass. You can see in almost every culture that a marriage between a man and woman is best. Fetishes are considered abnormal, although so many people are messed up, so what is normal?
I listen to what this man in the video is saying, and I wonder how he ended up in the places he went. I have looked at people that sleep around a lot, and they do not seem to be very happy people. It is like they are looking for love in all the wrong places. Then again there are so many guys that would have sex with just any woman, they seem to have no soul. When it is like that, it reminds me of the time my cousin and her husband, both psychiatrists, made me watch Looking for Mr. Goodbar, and told me be careful about looking for people for sex, you don't know what could happen. I was about 21 at the time, and most of the people my age were into multiple partners. I guess they were trying to scare me into having a good life.
SUGGESTION: I would love to hear a voice actress/actor over these testimonies, it would make it easier to watch/hear. Just a suggestion.
why?
Omg urethral what??? Ouch omg my jaw dropped and I out loud said WHATTT
A smooth and properly lubed insertion feels good. The instrument used is typically made of stainless steel or silicone.
@@simpindulgence6384 You do you
"Living his best life". Apparently.
Every guy simultaneously felt a terrible pain in their crotch area after hearing that, for sure
@@tiIebreaker I felt the pain too and I'm not a guy, it sounded soo painful
Am I the only one that finds this kind of hedonism kind of immature and sad at the same time? Orgasm is basically the involuntary contraction of a few muscles which induces the release of feel-good hormones. Imagine being a slave to such a minuscule thing and revolving your life around it
And alcohol is a fermented food byproduct. Heroin is milk of the poppy. Etc etc
Dude, what are you smoking??
Our whole lives are about seeking out feel-good hormones 😂
Humans go towards feel good and stay away from feel bad. The brain has been conditioned for that since the first neurons started firing.
You sound like poor attempt at Sheldon Cooper, trying to be less human.
@@Chrisko1492Yes but not to THIS extent. This like comparing drug addicts to normal people who would like to get some endorphins going out to exercise for a bit.
Oh boy, here comes the wave of holier-than-thou commenters
"living their best life" yea something tells me that's not true.
Yup. People of twisted behavior struggle to tell truth from falsehood.
This is honest and i appreciate that.
Sound engineer really did their thing here.
I don't think humans are human anymore...
I feel like a lot of these comments are exactly why these conversations tend to be behind closed doors. People should be able to express themselves sexually and voice their experiences without being demonized
Man I would be so paranoid of getting disease lol. These people are reckless and brave at the same time.
Can't get sick if you been sick. Some are super spreaders for a reason.
Without the brave part.
Yeah I would be in there with a full body condom on, way too germ phobic
I was pretty promiscous when I was younger, and often careless and I never caught anything. I wouldn't be worried about sex clubs at all as everyone must use condoms
@@chrispekel5709sure mate sure 😂
I missed these Keep them coming!
If you need these gatherings, you'll never be happy or satisfied
So you discourage people creating communities? You are a harmony disruptor
@@PresidentKamalaHarris. I think he meant Mentally Healthy communities/gatherings lmao
@@PresidentKamalaHarris. Yes i am
When I first moved to los Angeles and realize how often and casual ppl here talk about these kinda parties I was horrified… it scared me and gave ne anxieties about what’s on everyone’s mind for a good 2 years…. The thing that worked for me is definitely stay away from ppl and crowds that talk about this casually, what you do on your free time is your choice… 😂 don’t throw it around at ppl when they didn’t express any interest.
I got std just hearing him talking, God damn it.
That’s not funny at all and shame to everyone who thought it was funny
@@PresidentKamalaHarris.Ah yes, the American liberal - always telling everybody what they can and can't think. You people really do love self righteousness don't you?
@@CornPopWazABadDude you discredited yourself by editing your comment. That’s a sign of cowardice. Good try though
@@CornPopWazABadDude
You are thinking of lefties. Liberals aren‘t left.
@@Chrisko1492 liberals aren't left? What planet are you from? 😂👌.... The internet, never fails to entertain.
The only thing I don't like is at the end when they tried to frame the parties as victimizing. I notice people do this with sex. It's like the world revolvs around them and everyone is a creep or predator or abusive and they're a target. NO. If you were in a relationship in a free country, you did NOT have to go to sexparties, have 24/7 sex, sleep with other people, etc. if you didn't want to. You agreed to that. you're an adult and gave consent. Don't go to these things or form relationships with people like this if you can't say no and set boundaries because then you will go on portraying it like you were just some innocent lamb captured and forced to do things that you actually consented to.
This sounds like those Hollywood mansion parties that are often talked about.
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😂😂lol Same
Consent is wonderful, and boundaries are important. Be safe. YOLO
Pig.
Yeah, and do not waste that only life you have, because after it, you will have to spend an eternity in either Heaven or Hell.
Jesus Christ loves you, so seek Him, believe and trust in Him, and turn from your wicked ways, so you shall be saved.
He died for your sins, so you can go to Heaven if you believe in Him and give up all wickedness for His sake.
@@rigobacsi6300 Okay well that's just a load of garbage. Religion is the most obsolete, delusional waste of a life ever created. Get with the times weirdo.
Half way through the video and iam already half dead, this woman knows EVERYTHING wtf
Eyes Wide Shut.
Wait, so every part of being a swinger isn't great and perfect?😵
Boring. I would rather continue to be celibate. I am enjoying it so much. I don't mix up my energy with anyone so it's clean.
If you were enjoying celibacy, you wouldn't be trolling stories about kink....
I can appreciate that this is definitely undercover and you can’t tell the person‘s voice the sex obviously visual what they look like. As opposed to some of these channels that say oh, we’re not gonna give the name but they show the feet or the person or they give the name and they don’t show the person because they want to protect them.
It's a woman. They've tried way too hard to hide it and so given it away. Look at the proportions
I miss the world when we had morals.
We have never had them. Homo sapiens have been fucked up since the beginning of time. The only difference is that they were better at hiding it (at times).
Wow! Thank you to Vice for finding someone who would talk about the sex clubs. And a special thank you to the person who felt comfortable enough to share info about the sex clubs. The interview was so good and informative. ❤
Is this supposed to be shocking? Has anyone in VICE lived through the 70's-early 80's where there was porn theaters...Literally people having group sex...There are gay saunas-clubs where literally people have sex 1:1 or in large groups...I miss when VICE actually would do stories on NARCO Gangs...
the bathouses aren't that bad, at least not where i am, there are elements of privacy and boundaries.
There is no way on earth this behaviour can be considered psychologically normal. It's just like some total malfunction in the human brain, the same way some people's brains reward them for killing someone. People say 'it's harmless, it's a safe environment' - but the bottom line is, a lot of people in those kinds of environments are most likely suffering from psychological problems (I know this from meeting people who participate in this kind of stuff) and it's sad that it's just enabled by one another. If you respect people and have empathy, you simply would not participate in this kind of stuff because you know the potential damage you care causing. It'll be full of narcissists and people with personality disorders.
As someone who contracted Herpes from his first girlfriend, I would hate to know what one can pick up here. You'll definitely get your money's worth.
Why do people frame getting stds as something that was done to them? You had unprotected sex just like she did at one point. it's not her fault.
A cocktail in a room. A club brewery of infection.
@@fundifferent1 It's literally her fault then...
I got Herpes from the woman I lost my virginity to...that was 10 years ago.
Sounds like a fun time. She still in your life by any chance?
KitKat in Berlin is an example
Been there but wasn’t as extreme as it was presented here. No orgies whatsoever lol
so much 4MMC and meth parties in berlin
I'm ready for Jesus to get the believers out of here and for the Wrath of God to be poured out upon the world. Time is short. Jesus is the only hope for humanity.
Nothing can convince me that people who are into this stuff were not victims/perpetrators of SA at some point
You were probably a victim of SA. That’s your experience not theirs
@@PresidentKamalaHarris. okidoke
People can also just be gross
@@Praisethesunson how is it gross?
@@RastamouseTV you are projecting mister okie dokie
While I personally find this repulsive, these are adults and they can do as they wish.
It kinda turns me on personally
Exactly. If they're gonna be irresponsible, that's their prerogative.
Cringe, they should not be allowed to.
thanks for the subtitles
I loved this interview. I found the voice very hard to understand though and had to read the subtitles for most of it (like 90%).
Thats how all of those odd political bills happen. Business deals. Actors. Singers. Etc.
This may be his experience but as a regular attendee of swinger and BDSM parties his experience is unique, mostly very kind, very sweet people who just want to feel good , Brits may do it different but each to their own 😊
BDSM clubs/parties tend to be more careful around consent and aftercare etc. Plus the community kicks unsafe people out quick smart. Het vanilla places are so much more lax and impersonal. Pretty much what the interviewee said tbh, there's some grim bs allowed that wouldn't fly in the kink scene.
I actually get the feeling the speaker is a woman. Either way, I suspect they were specifically asked about the negative aspects of what they've experienced.
same. after listening to the way this person speaks, and, if you look at some of the close-ups, you can also see this person has wide hips. it's very likely to be a woman@@cweretelnyk
y’all all going to hell man😂
I thought this was a woman
I’ve been to quite a lot of these parties in different countries and also worked as a domina. And I must say that ppl who like extreme stuff (that’s apparently men in most of cases, I don’t think I even know personally a woman tho really likes extreme) they are not living their best lives. They are not okay! They need love and approval and they are seeking for it in that places, that can give them a feeling of something good. Some emotional connection, that last only for few hours or even minutes but anyway. I don’t think they are able of building healthy relationships. At least I don’t know any.
I don’t dont wanna generalise everyone but thats just what I’ve seen.
What are you on about, the entire scene is run by females.
The title of this post is merely clickbait & intentionally misleading.
Is there really a single Truth about any topic and why does this one person own it?
Like almost everything in life, this is one person’s current perspective of their experience.
The more people who are allowed input will give a different overall vantage point.
And over time those individual experiences will change because humans are dynamic.
🤷♂️ IJS
Damn, I never get invited to the freak offs 😭
Welcome to Rome 101 😂😂😂
Spiegati
George Orwell 1984?
I remember going to a spring break party back in 2018 btw i was 16 at the time and i was there till midnight it was basically on a beach and there was this girl who was around 17 or 18 dancing with some guy who was around maybe 20 or older so im not gonna lie this girl was dancing on me to and i remember asking the guy if this was his girl and he said nah i have a girlfriend bro he literally showed a wallpaper on his phone of him and his girl together looking like a perfect couple PERFECT MY ASS 🤧