Video 18 - Home Poker Tournament Tutorial - The PERFECT Starting Stack, Breakdown & Structure
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- For the first time I go face to face with y'all to bring you a home poker tournament Starting Stack, Chip Breakdown and Blind Structure 14 years in the making!
I've had a successful No-Limit Hold-Em poker tournament, once a month for the past decade and a half - and I'm here to share with you everything regarding poker chips and how they play into a great night of tournament poker.
Please feel to comment and ask questions - I'm sure there's details I forgot, I will do my best to answer all of your inquiries!
I was watching this video and i thought to myself: "those are nice chips, i wanna buy 'em". Yea nah i don't feel like selling my house.
@@MrAntonGunnarsson You can buy them, you just need to find someone who is willing to sell them :)
@@MrAntonGunnarsson they do pop up on PCF from time to time at about $7-$8 a chip.
About to host a poker night with some friends for the first time, and this video had exactly what I needed in terms of the chip breakdown.
hope you had a good time
Thanks to this video I have hosted around 20 tournaments this last year ranging from 6 to 14 guys and it has been a blast. The 20K structure is great!
I'm adopting this format for a game in a couple weeks. I'm from the much lower stack crowd previously (1500). How long did you find your games go for by adjusting to this 20K starting stack with one rebuy format? I just wanna be sure it doesn't go all night.
I think as long as you get the blind structure moving according to how long you wanna play that’s what matters. 3 hours into my main structure the blinds are at 4K/8k so that’s when people really start getting out. But it usually goes about another hour after that.
Hi, Im now trying to customise my second poker set, and Ive seen this video, comments like yours. Ive decided to go with 25-100-500-1000-5000 denominated chips.
I will buy a 300 set, and I excluded 1-5-10s from that. Im customizing a set proper for this set up.
75 - 25$
75 - 100$
50 - 500$
50 - 1000$
25 - 5000$
this is what Im gonna buy but here is the problem:
this whole set makes 275 chips and I must choose one roll of 25 for any denomination. I cant decide which one to go, 25$ or 100$ ? one of them will be 100 chips and the other will be 75. We generally play as 6 men, but sometimes maybe 7. what do you suggest as a person who hosts tournaments? 100 pieces of 25$ and 75 of 100$ or opposite? (or another suggestion of yours)
Id appreciate if you help me.
@@Librarian85 I would personally recommend leaning towards more chips of a higher denomination for tournament play. For your situation I'd suggest the extra 25x 100$ chips. This is for 2 main reasons 1. if people want to buy back in or you have an extra person or 2, you can always give out a smaller amount of higher value chips yet still create the same overall value (for example 1x $100 chip can be given out instead of 4x $25 chips) and 2. if you are going to color up as you go through the tournament the smallest denomination will be colored up first meaning they will be played with the least.
@@Rageinggames1 Thank you, Ive just placed an order and did just as you said. 75x 25$ and 100x 100$. I think it will be much better like this, because of the reasons you said. Thanx again.
Chris, not sure how your video popped up on my channel but I’m so happy it did.
Before the pandemic hit, I was asked to run a charity poker tournament with 80 players.
This event would include re-buys in the first hour and I’m struggling to determine how many chips I need.
Watching your video gives me some sort of idea but my OCD to get this right is killing me.
Your expertise and experience would really be appreciated.
So glad you got some good info. I’m hopefully going to do a more in depth video on running tournaments soon.
how did it turn out?
pretty easy spreadsheet work
This video was exactly what I needed to order the right amount of tournament poker chips. Thank you!
Hi Chris. I hosted our first tournament this weekend. 19 guys. It went great. A few small hiccups, but very smooth. It's all because of your videos! Ty!
I hope your pokerplayers appriciate the effort AND the fact you got Aurora star poker chips. Those 25s are sooo gorgeous! Thx for the vid!
Just getting into Poker and I ran across your channel. Just wanted to say Thank You! Very informative and full of information explained clearly. You've helped me immensely! Great Channel Chris!
Great video man, thanks for sharing all the details of how you run your home tournament games in your garage plus how many chips people would need etc. that's awesome!
Some beautiful chips man. Gorgeous. Wish there were more out there for lower prices. Your set is my dream one day!
yeah super unfortunate they stopped making them for the public in 2015 or whatever
@@Ross-fo2vw these were never made for the public, it was a single buy by about 30 people from Paulson directly. Don't know the full story on the boat chips but that original purchase is all that's made it to the general market.
@@prototypep4 oh wow I didn’t know that . So 30 people went in and bought millions of chips then sold them on the secondary market? And now what you need a casino license to purchase?
this was so helpful i am planning a poker torny as well, and before seeing this video i was kinda surprised just how similar everything i had was to yours
Dude, just found your channel. Long-time home tourney host as well, really enjoying these. Cheers!
Thanks for sharing Chris! I discovered your channel by this video and I must say that I am impressed with all these chips, Your collection is the envy of many ;)
I've played a few 2-table tournaments with this structure and I have to say it works really well.
For a one table game however (6-9 players), I've change the denomination to 12/12/8/7/2 (22500) as there are less chips in play and players love to have more chips in front of them. I've also change level 9 to 700/1400 (16bb) then which I find is by far the level where everyone comes out at the same time taking unecesseray risk with the recommended 800/1600 (14bb) (works well with multiple tables but finds it just too much for a single table game). I also increased the level time to 30 minutes and left the antes as they are. Tournaments usually last 5-6 hours, maybe 7 hours with a group of 9 more tight players. If you want 7 hours with 6-7 players, get rid of the ante.
Anyway, hope this helps anyone trying to set up a one table tournament and again thanks for sharing this valuable information. I would also love to have your thoughts on this, maybe you have different perspective that may even more improve a one table game, as I believe is the most played format by everyone as multiple table home game takes much more time, organisation and ressources.
Thanks!
Thanks for the great feedback. Yes, I have found over the years that a single table is a different animal than a mult-table event. We dispense with the ante but keep everything else with a single table and it seems to work fine. We are def aiming for more of a 4 1/2 - 5 hour tourney and not a longer event.
Hey can you please make a video on bounties. Or you can just reply to this lol how do I host a tournament with bounties . Thanks
If you knock a player out you get $5
How we play home cash games.
whites $1, reds $5, blues $20, greens $50.
(Chip values are 10-20 times higher than actual cash values.)
Blinds start at $1/$2 in chips as a deepstack warmup, quickly move up to $2/$5 and stay there.
min buyin, $200 in chips ($10-$20 in cash)
$1 x 20
$5 x 16
$20 x 5
$50 x 0
max buyin, $500 in chips ($25-$50 in cash)
$1 x 20
$5 x 16
$20 x 10
$50 x 4
Chip-to-cash conversion rates are pretty simple:
If the min buyin is set at $20, Chips ÷ 10 = Cash. ($200 in chips ÷ 10 = $20 in cash.)
If the min buyin is set at $10, Chips x 5 = Cents.
($200 in chips x 5 = 1000 cents = $10.00)
Other details: We run a $1 ante that you can bypass if you take a drink. Some of us roll 2 die to determine the size of our preflop open. We do alternative gambling games for low stakes (white chips only) every 10 hands or so.
Hope this helps.
Why go through all the nonsense of converting from a cash valuve to a nominal value and back when you're playing a cash game? Why not just determine a cash value for each denomination of chip and leave it at that? Then you can cut out the completely unnecessary steps of multiplying by 10 or dividing by 5. Just buy in for $20, get $20 in chips, at the end cash out with your $13 or $33.50 or whatever.
Also, why the denominatoins of 1,, 5, 20, and 50? Why not just use 1, 5, 25, and 100? May as well line up with casinos.
@@Trephining because when i wrote that comment we played microstakes for fun, and saying "I raise to 75¢" is lame. Abstracting the dollar amount makes the action a little more exciting.
Also our system uses chips more efficiently than other systems in my opinion, so I don't have to buy more chips than i need. Also the fictional dollar amounts line up with actual dollar bills in circulation ($1,$5,$20). And they work out nicely in their actual value (5¢,25¢,$1). You can color them whatever you want of course.
We stumbled on that system before any of us had ever been to a casino, and decided to stick with it.
You did very well on this video. To the point, with a few explanations and examples. Great job, and thanks for the help!
Just finished your video and I gotta say I really enjoyed this one !
As a tournament director I stand behind this video. Very informative and the 5 hour estimation for this structure is correct although im curious as to the restrictions you put on the re-entry.. can you use it at any time? I mean theoretically if they became heads up and lose but havent used their optional rebuy can they use it and get another chance? That would seem a bit wrong in my opinion and i would suggest the optional rebuy for everyone needs to be used before a certain blind level or before the money or something along those lines
Thanks so much for the kind words! Yes you are absolutely correct about ending re-entry after the first break, I can’t believe I forgot to mention that!
@@chrismanzoni3586 Well you had a lot of things to go over in this video, its an inevitability to miss a small detail. Keep doing what your doing your home games sound epic.
Thank you for this video. I feel confident about my home game I’m about to do in few hrs. Appreciate you bro!
Newbie...trying to set up a friendly game with my co-workers. Decided to set up a tourney...to cut time...cause 3/4 of us have to work the next day.
Thank you!
I used to implement a nearly identical structure in my friend's home game tournament. I think it worked perfectly. Then one day, a new player convinced him to change up the entire format. Now, the starting stack is lower, the on-time bonus has been removed, the rebuys are unlimited, and there's an add-on at the cutoff. It's warped into a turbo shovefest, which I think takes away a good chunk of strategy. I no longer attend this game.
That really sucks, how did he convince the friend?
Hi Chris, love the videos. I’ve patterned my hime games after yours including the 8, 8, 6, 6, 2 $20,000 starting stacks. How do you manage your rebuy chips? Seems I remember you mentioning in another video rebuys get you a large denomination chip? How’s that work at the table. Does the rebuy player then sit down and begin to make change with the big stack? What do you give rebuyer in chips in this tourney as well as a similar $40 cash came rebuy chips? Thanks in advance.
Yeah that's what we do at our university tournaments!
The structure is a lot faster annoyingly as the place is only open for five hours and there's usually 80-100 players (max. 130 entries, rebuys close either then or at first break) - 100/200 first level and doubles once 20 mins in (so down to 25bb average at level 2 as we only get 10k chips)
But that's usually how it works, we give the rebuys 2x5000 chips, and they change with the big stack when they need to, there'll always be enough change to go around!!
Thank you so much the guidelines were amazing.
Great vids, Chris. Ppl like Tourneys bc it limits their expenditures. They bring a buy in and 1-2 rebuys and they’re comfy w that. Others, like me, look for games where a cash game follows the tourney as people bust, and use the tourney as a gate to a profitable cash game. If Incash in tourney, great. If not, I try to make my buy in and more, through the cash game. But you know this, I’m sure.
Question about buying back in.
Suppose a single table, 10 player tournament. If you buy the number of chips you suggest, then all the 25s, 100s, 500s, and 1000s are in play, but there are extra 5000s. So when someone busts and buys back in, do you give them the exact composition of their starting stack again (meaning you would need more chips) or do you just give them the value of their buy-in a larger denom and have them make change at the table?
I just give them 4 5k chips and they can make change at the table. Makes it easier later on. If it’s really early in the tournament, I might give 5 1k chips and 3 5k chips
Hey Chris glad I found your channel. Enjoying watching your videos. If you have a table of 3 and for argument sake they're all staring even, how do you determine who to pull from which table if you lose players. Do you consolidate into two at 20 people or wait for 10 people and make one? You very well may have a video explaining this but I haven't found it yet. Thanks!
I do indeed! Video number 25 is all about the seating! th-cam.com/video/gCVScHKtzdE/w-d-xo.html
Just found your video. Mr. Jon Hobby also is a fan of Poker Chip Forum. Its great to get this new perspective. Now, I need to find your videos on these poker chips. They look great.
So glad I found this, I just learned the game and got my first set, 300 chips and then thought I needed a ton more.
I think one more sleeve of chips and I can hold my first single table tourny next month!
Unfortunately my set consists of 1s(100),5s(100),25s(50),100s(25) and 500s(25).
Using your setup im thinking to buy 25 more 100s and distribute 8-10-6-6-3 respectively.
Should work? ( I could return the set and search for a 500 )
Oh my! Look at those Aurora Stars. Minty fresh Paulson!
I am now devoting my life to becoming a friend of a friend just to join your game to prove you wrong
Really practical and sensible advice here! 😂
Lol "a face made for radio." Dude, same.
Thanks for your important information Sure helps. Can you also please include your breakdown on your cash sets.
New video - #20 - Cash Chip breakdown!
thats funny, i came up with a 20k starting stack almost exactly the same way you did!
Man.. those chips are Beautiful
These videos where very helpful, not related but only issue we ran into was when 3 or more people where in the pot and someone went all in and there were was still more betting. Got a little confusing at the end
Thats when you have to make split pots
How many chips will be needed of $5k or $25k for color ups later on? Do you have a recommendation for that? I watched your video on color ups but it only discussed coloring up green 25s and I would like to know how many $5k or $25 chips are needed to own for color up when the tournament gets later on. Thx!
Love your insights! And all the details you share from your own experience. This makes figuring it out so much easier. I wonder if you have any tips on how to modify it to 1-table tournaments that should take something between 75-90 minutes. We play 6-max sit and go and we try to play 2-3 in one evening (approx 5 hours total). I went with your structure and 60 BBs starting stack as a starting point, but I wonder if you have any experience in this area as well. I bet there are more people who run home games as a few sit and gos (how to write that in plural?) per evening.
Thanks so much for the kind words! I've really never given much thought to hosting an evening with several shorter tournaments instead of one longer one - but I know the idea has lots of appeal for a lot of people.
I think you are already on to the best way to make it work - start with less big blinds. A 20K stack with blinds starting at 25/50 gives players 400 big blinds to start with. Starting at a higher blind level or with less chips in the starting stack would for sure do the trick and make the tournament faster.
Having never done it myself, I would be reluctant to give specific numbers - but I think you are already well on your way to dialing it in.
@@chrismanzoni3586 Thanks for your answer. After the first try, I feel like I need to switch it to turbo structure. So basically the opposite of what you did here. Nevertheless, your video is great, cheers!
I owned the full set but still comeback to see this clip
Hi Christopher M. I need some advice for dummies here. See my friends and I are all beginners (we still need a chart of hand rankings handy to see what beats what) and I'd like to host a simple home game for us. I have an ok set of poker chips and when I watch poker on tv I can follow what's going on, but as far as setting up and running a game myself I don't have a clue how to do it. Unfortunately I'm the most knowledgeable in my friend group about this so if I can't get this going it'll never happen.
Anyway here's what we'd hope for: a game that we can come together to play (maybe 5-6 ppl, def not more than 10), a game that'll last about 2 to maybe 3 hours tops to finish, and everyone would pitch in $5-$10 to play if they even want to pay to play at all. most likely it'll be a free event. Just a fun poker night with the guys, but I want it to feel official. If you already have a video that suits my situation please link it here, or if you know where I can find info on how to run it that would be welcome too. Right now everything I find online is too complex for what we'll be doing, because we aren't serious players. Also if anyone in the comments can provide help I'm all ears. Thanks in advance!
This video is probably the one of mine that most applies to your situation - I think a tournament is likely your best bet with a very new group. Low entry fee, with a cheap re-entry, is always a great way to go and get people coming back.
So glad I found you have already wanted to run a gentleman's card game I plan to use your videos as a Bible to follow as I like your setup and teaching
Im totally green but with experience and time perfection is learned
Any suggestions other than studying everyone of your videos
TABLES
RULES
SETUP
REQUIREMENTS
and so forth
Thanks look forward to watching all 21 videos
Wow Chris, Thank you SO much for sharing these great insights! Finally going to take the plunge and invest in some really nice Poker gear (table, chips etc) and start hosting a monthly Poker Night with my friends. This video gave me SO much inspiration and great tips! I also do videos here on TH-cam, but on Personal Finance, Investments and Real Estate - So a far short from your content! Feel free to drop by some time😃 Loved the Perfect Starting Stack breakdown, so smart (I hadn’t even thought of that)!!
Have all the chips for the 10 handed option but wondering what chips you give for re entry?
Yes, I believe my single table breakdown gives you a spare 20 barrel of 5K chips which is enough for 5 re-entries, which should be sufficient for a normal group with a single re-entry format.
If you have an especially gamble-y group or if you’re doing multiple or unlimited rebuys I would recommend extra 5K barrels for sure.
@@chrismanzoni3586 Yeah thats cool. What method are you using with this setup to colour up the 100 and 500 chips in the later stages?
It just seems like, to me, you would run out of low value chips really fast?! I don’t know tho... I host a poker night and I’m trying to make it a little more serious. But I feel that there is too few low value chips. Your thoughts on this comment?
Use the larger denomination chips when people have to rebuy or it’s time to color up. Don’t give a reentry/rebuy a full five denomination starting stack, give them four 5K chips and they can make change at the table.
Christopher M. Thanks Chris. Good stuff! I like the “on-time” bonus. Coulda used that last week🤔
Those chips are beyond beautiful!
Chris you’ve got a sick garage going on there buddy. Love it. Your videos have gotten me back into chips. Already trying to find the Paulson private card room chips that I sold like an idiot back In the day. Rn I just have some cps chips. Here’s my predicament. I want to play tourneys with 9-10 players but I don’t have 25, or 100’s. I have 500s-1000s, 5k and 25k. Could you help me figure out a starting stack and blinds structure with this setup I have until I get ahold of some 25s and 100s
Yo, you have 4 different denominations. They can be 5s, 25s, 100s, and 500s. They can be 25s, 100s, 500s, and 1000s. The numbers are up to you, not dictated by some outside force. From there you can make it work I'm sure.
How long do you normally allow a re-entry for? Maybe until the 100s and 500s get coloured up? And how many re-entries do you expect from... say... a single table? It seemed like your chipset breakdowns didn’t account for people re-buying in as there was only 200k worth of 5k chips there in the set.
Re-entries are over after the first break. Sorry I didn't mention that in the video!
Good amount and perfect number too IMHO. Only thing I do differently is I use plaques for the 2 5k chips. If you're the one buying the chips plaques can add up $$$ quickly, but you shouldn't need a ton of them. I also do a 5k reload and whoeever chooses just gets another plaque. I don't know tourny etiquette for add-on's, so maybe 5k's too low. But on the normal game it's a $25 buy-in for 20k in chips, then there's a $10 reload for 5k at the end of round 6 for anyone still in who wants a bit more chips. But I know not everyone likes plaques. To me though there's something satisfying about tossing one into the pot instead of 1, or a couple regular chips. And just my opinion but having a stack of plaques can make you look like a more menacing player lol. If you have a stack of 6+ big plaques you means business. BR Poker Pro has some awesome chips with matching plaques for a lot of them. For dramatic effect I'm thinking about having some custom all-in plaques made.
Only downside to plaques aside from price, unless you have Shaq sized hands you won't be able to shuffle them lol.
What is your payout to 1st place, second place, ect?
VERY helpful video. Thank you! I have one question:
If you do a bounty and single rebuy tournament, I assume a person who rebuys get an additional bounty chip on reentry? If so, how do you handle the bounty situation when someone surrenders their stack and reenters?
Your assumption is correct, when you reenter after being felted you reenter for the full amount which includes the bounty chip. If you surrender your stack, which I allow both in play and at the break, you retain your bounty so you only pay the entry fee minus the bounty amount
Face for radio, faces gets red as soon as the sentence is over, my guy keep doing your thing and keep making videos, enjoy urself
Chris I tried to read through the comments to see if you answered this. I'd like to skip the 25s and start with a base of 100. Is the starting stack now 10-6-6-2 and do you now only need 100-100s 60-500s 60-1000s and 40-5000s?
Yes I mentioned in the video there’s an alternate blind structure with no quarters, it’s a great way to save on cost of chips, plus it eliminates a whole color up. Your breakdown seems correct. Might want to get one more barrel of 5000s just in case you have a gambling group that re-enters a lot.
Where can I find the "No One Cares What you Folded" sign? It's awesome! Would love to get one for my poker room
Custom made at SmartSign.com !
Hey Mr. Manzoni. What are your thoughts on the T100 tournament that supposedly is increasing in popularity. Have you done any T100 in your home games?
These days I have switched to a T100 base, I have to admit it’s a lot easier for a host. If I was to update this video I would put that in as the first recommendation. If you watch this video closely, you will see that it is an option.
@@chrismanzoni3586 Im just about to put together a T100 set and see if I can start gathering some friends for a friendly tournament every 4-6 weeks or so. Did you do any revision on the blind structure posted in the video? (Id probably start off with a single table, so in my case I'm guessing I can leave antes out of the game). And by the way, thanks for creating such great content. Good quality and very inspiring!
@@kristiangravem no revision but I do include a T100 base structure in the video! GL hosting!
I don’t understand this: are 8 chips of 100 enough? Is it because when u put money in the pot you can get change from the pot or because the dealer can give you change from the bank?
So I’m planning on having 5 guys total for a hold’em poker night. $50 buy in and I want the game to last about 2 hours before we switch to playing for change instead of chips and having dealer’s choice. Any suggestions?
I am hosting a tournament for the first time in a very long time and am trying to reacquaint myself with things. I like the bonus chips idea. Also, you said you allow players with micro stacks to forfeit their chips and participate in the one rebuy. What constitutes a micro stack? Is it the number of blinds they have available or something like that? Thanks!
I don't have a chip count requirement for someone to surrender their stack and re-enter, it's a personal choice of the player and they are free to surrender their stack and re-enter at any amount. Obviously they won't if they are close to having a starting stack..
But because it's only a $45 tournament some players will surrender if they have as much as half their chips remaining, or even a bit more than that. Others are more economical and won't surrender and re-enter until they have just a couple of big blinds. It really varies from player to player, the important thing is that they have the option if they feel they are too far behind to catch up with what chips they have left.
@@chrismanzoni3586 Great. Thanks. That's the conclusion I came to. If someone is willing to forfeit what they have and restart, who cares if they gain 100% or 10%.
I’m sorry but I’m confused why the extra 500 for “exact change”. Change for what? Great videos by the way!
The entry fee for my tournament is $45, so when a player buys in if they give me exactly the right amount and I don’t have to make change, I reward them with a 500 chip bonus. If I didn’t offer this bonus I’m sure I would get lots of people handing me three $20 bills and then I would have to make change. With a bonus incentive it’s much less work for me.
Please explain the bounty chip in your games. Thanks
its basically everyone has it and if you get someones bounty chip than you get $5 for each bounty chip you end with. even if you loose if you have bounty chips you will get some money
@@factualprod8758 so 2 persons go all in one wins, the loser hands over their bounty chip, right? ok now the winner has two, the winner goes all in with another player and losses, they just hand over one bounty chip and cash the other or how ever many they have for the $5each? and if they rebuy can they loss another bounty chip is they loss thier stack again?
Dude, great video- Just added some chips to my Tiki chips order- I’m using the 5000 plaques instead of chips so should be fun 🤘
This is great, thank you.
Love your videos!!
question for you...
If I have a 20 person tourney with 2 re entries how many of each chip would i need?
Great video! I was wondering if you could help me with my poker tournaments. I have chips with 1, 5, 25, 100, 500, and 1000. Can you help me with a starting stack and blind structure?
Jose Tamayo i have the same problem lol
you dont need to worry about chip values, just recreate his numbers as "number of blinds" and go from there, i.e. 20k @ 50$ BB is 400 Big Blinds, so for a $1/$2 tournament; the starting stack would be 800
A good and proven blind structure for a T1 base or a T5 base is not something that is readily available on the internet - I have looked and had limited success. I also haven't been motivated to really dial it in as I don't have a T1 or T5 base set.
I do plan to eventually take time to really think through it and figure it out, as I know this info would be helpful for a lot of people!
^^^ Please do this soon ^^^ LOL
1, 5, 25, 100, 500, 1000
Just bought the 500 piece Slowplay Set and plan on doing a tournament in a couple weeks
Chris, great video and thank you! What is your suggestion for the minimum bet to be made during any part of the game? Ive played where the minimum bet is either the SB or BB. Just wondering your thoughts. Thanks
The minimum bet is always whatever the Big Blind is. If the blind levels are 25/50 then the minimum bet would be 50.
Can this breakdown (8-8-6-6-2) be used in pot limit Omaha tournaments, in limit Hold'em and in 7 card Stud (tournaments)? Thank you
PLO for sure, we’ve done it and it works great! Fixed limit Hold-Em would also be fine. Stud however, since it’s played with antes and a bring-in, would have a different structure.
Great video! If I wanted to keep the game close to 4-5 hours would I add the antes even on a single table? or add antes after a specific Break? Thanks in advance.
I believe a single table wouldn't need the ante to finish in 4 to 5 hours, you should be good without it. Try it both ways and see what works best for your group. I suggest going without it the first time through. If it goes beyond 5 hours, which I doubt it will, then you know you can use the BB ante next time.
Is the needs for chips still gonna be the same if you don’t do any rebuys at all, or should you still get the same in the video as insurance I’m case something does happen?
Wait so you’re allowed to charge people to play the tournament but you’re not allowed to have a rake? 🤔
you didn't say what your blinds/ante are, which is crucial to understanding why your stack breakdown is like that.
I'm a newbie and I don't know if blinds are obvious 25/50 or what.
He does show the blind structure? At 8:19
Can these recipe apply for 4 players?
Sorry, I'm very new with the game 😅
Good info here. Thank you for sharing. One question: Is there a different between "re-entry" and "re-buy"? You say you don't like re-buys, but you permit 1 re-entry. Can you clarify please?
It’s not a very big distinction, it’s mostly semantics, but a rebuy implies that you stay in your seat and get fresh chips (which could be a different amount than your initial entry) by putting in money that’s not necessarily the same amount as your initial buy-in. For example, if you paid $60 for 20K in chips, you might be able to re-buy for $40 for 25K in chips and stay in the same seat.
A reentry means you are treated like a completely new player, which means you redraw for any new seats that are available and don’t necessarily stay where you are, and you pay the exact amount of the entry fee that you originally paid and you get exactly the same amount of chips. So for $60 for 20K in chips, say you bust and re-enter, you would potentially draw for a new seat and pay $60 for 20K in chips.
The distinction is not that great, but the point of a re-entry is to give players who get unlucky a single second chance to pay full price and come back in, whereas the purpose of a re-buy is to encourage action and let players keep playing for a bit less money and even potentially more chips.
@@chrismanzoni3586 Thanks for the quick response. This is very clear. A subtle, but not insignificant difference.
A few years ago I started getting together with friends for a twice-monthly game night. Quickly became poker-only night. Progressed to a $1 buy-in, winner takes the entire $5-$10 at the end of the night. Recently moved to $5 buy-in and now I'm consistently getting 10+ every month. I don't anticipate moving past $5 for a while, but we definitely need to get more organized and formal to keep the chaos under control.
Thanks again for sharing, this is great info.
Do we use the highest denomination to reload? also I would use 8-8-6-6-4 meaning a 40k starting stack, but i would have a $40 dollar buy in rather than 20-25
Can you do a video on your poker tables?
Sure! Don't know when I'll have a chance, but hopefully soon, didn't know that anyone would be interested, but they're each a bit different so that might be interesting.
I also want to do a video on seating poker tournaments so that might happen first. Either one might not be for awhile.
Chris! Your structure at 10:56 shows blinds of 1,000/2,000 with a 1,000 BB Ante. Is that a typo (meaning it’s a 2,000 BB Ante), or is it really a 1,000 BB Ante?
Face for radio? I thought you were Jason Statham from 'wild card' 😎
Chris, Is it possible for you to make a video like this, but just with 600 poker chips? I'm going to do my first home texas hold'em tournament and I have 600 poker chips but I have 10 different colors: 100, 60, 60, 60, 60, 60, 50, 50, 50 and 50. what do you suggest me to do?
Another great video thank you. You spoke about bounty chip, could you explain more and can someone buy a bounty chip a place on another player? Thank you for your time.
Entire Bounty Chip video coming soon I hope!
@@chrismanzoni3586 I hope so too lol
Trying to start my own game this video has been great. Love the chips. 3 questions.
1. When coloring up which chips are going out for each break. (25s exchange for what chip value? 100/500?, 1000s) When do you send out the 25k’s?
2. When you say “ big blind ante” you mean a forced bet to every seat or a 3rd big blind.
3. What chips go out with rebuys? Are 2nd bounty chips included with rebuy?
For your first question, I need to do a second video on coloring up! In the meantime here's a short answer to your question -
Short answer - the 25s go away in the first break, the 100s AND 500s in the second break. The 1Ks towards the end when you reach the 10K/20K level. But I really need to do a video, stay tuned!
Second question - the big blind ante is posted by the big blind as a "second" big blind, in the middle of the table. This is dead money that represents an ante for the entire table. Example, if blinds are 200/400 with a big blind ante - the small blind posts 200, the big blind posts 400 and also puts another 400 in the middle. This is roughly equivalent to the entire table each posting T50 individually. (8 handed it would equal T400, ten handed T500, nine handed T450)
Third question, you don't need to remove chips for a rebuy unless the player is surrendering their stack. In any case, this re-buy is just four T5Ks. I don't introduce smaller denoms with re-entries. Yes, in my tournament a bounty chip is included with a rebuy, if it's a stack surrender they can keep their current bounty and don't need to purchase another one. (I prefer to call a re-buy a re-entry, I try to emphasize to everyone that it's not a re-buy tournament, the re-entry is in case someone gets coolered early).
Re-read question 1 - you buy up the smaller denoms on the table with the bigger denoms. Bring a new 5K to the table, make change using the stacks already there if you need to, then exchange the T25s for the bigger chips in your hand. More details coming in the video - I will try to shoot this weekend!
@@chrismanzoni3586 @Christopher M. how does this surrender thing works?they physicaly give you their chips they keep what ever bounties they have collected, and rebuy and get 20K plus another bounty chip?
Hi Chris! Love this video, gearing up to host a first tournament among friends. In regards to payouts, do you treat re entries as another player? For example, if you had 10 players who all re-entered, do you still calculate payouts as paying 25% of a field of 10 or 25% of a field of 20?
Where can get my hands on those chips they look amazing!
Mattias Åkesson see my poker chip video #7, these are very difficult and expensive chips to acquire! The classified section of PokerChipForum.com is your best bet, but be prepared to search for many moons and then pay top dollar if you do find some.
Where can I find those aurora star hot stamps? Or is there a site that will customize the same as yours with same material?
Really great video. I love your content. Keep it coming.
Sorry poker newbie when does the blinds go up please.
Thanks for sharing. how are the rules for the winners? i mean, im using re/buys, how could be the rule for the 2nd place? cheers
I think you mean payouts - I always pay 3 people for a single table tournament, with a money back for 4th place if I have a single re-entry or more.
If I have more than a single table then it's a sliding scale payout, with approximately 30% of the prize pool going to 1st place and sliding down from there. This is MUCH flatter than card rooms and casinos, who typically award 40%+ to first place.
Im so confused what the numbers mean, what does it mean to have a 20k starting stack and then all the numbers in the blind structures all set up in thousands. Isnt this buy in for up to ~ 80 bucks? Can someone help me out?
my next tournament (a company team building/thank you event) im going to with this break down, but i will go with an exact change bonus of 4 green and 4 black...i guess my question is how many people out of 25 buy in with exact change (on average)
Out of an average of 25 players at my monthly tournament, typically 1 or 2 people don't buy in with exact change.
I want to host a tournament with friends and neighbors. I think I have enough chips for 10 players + 5 rebuys, but thats at a starting stack of only 100. Breakdown could be T1 x 10, T5 x 10, T10 x 4.
To color up I have T25 and T100's.
Do you see any obvious issues with this small starting stack size or breakdown?
Any recommendations for blind structure, with the small starting stack?
dont use T10s...wastes a denomination
Sweet double sided bounty/all-in chip! Anyone know where to get it or something similar?
excellent video buddy!
How long would one table running this blind structure last roughly? 8-9 players.
Nevermind I saw a previous comment about it lasting about an hour less. Thanks for the great video!
What do you do for dealer? Also what are some ways you make money? You hinted at it but didn't specify
All my games are self dealt, meaning all players take turns dealing in line with every time they are behind the button, See my recent video (#28) on playing cards for a thorough explanation of how we do it.
I don’t make money at all hosting my games beyond having good results in the game itself. For me this more about hanging with my good friends in my home (garage) than it is about making money. I have a day job for that lol.
@@chrismanzoni3586 (I made this comment quickly and after only watching one of your videos.) But I have now watched almost all your videos and totally understand what's going on! And I love your method for 2-deck dealing/shuffling-looks like it will work perfect!!!
How often do you incrase the blinds?
Optional re-entry? Isn't that the same as a one time rebuy?
Thanks for the video. I recently bought some new chips and have been struggling to find a good starting stack. This helped a ton.
I’ve been running a monthly game with friends for over a year and attendance is not always as great as I would like. I’ve been thinking about trying to set up a year long league to spark more interest. Do you have any experience with a league or have any advice for starting one. Is there a program you could recommend to help me keep stats and points in order?
World Tavern Poker
Poker Timer ($4.99) iOS
For how long can you rebuy in to the tournament? When i played with your blind structure we played with buy in available until second break, what do you prefer?
Myself I prefer ending rebuys (or re-entry) after the first break, because if you allow them until the second break you have people buying back in with as little as 12 big blinds, or even ten big blinds if they reload during the second break. This is not great because people aren’t getting very good play value for their money. But if you and your players are ok with it then who am I to say that it’s not? If it works for you and your group then it works!
@@chrismanzoni3586 thanks :D
Hello chris. I have a question about the re-entry, i like the format with just one
"if they have micro stacks they can surrender and re-enter" So no Add-on, just give their chips to the bank and get another 20k?
Correct, no add-on, just surrender all chips to the bank and re-enter for a new 20K starting stack
@@chrismanzoni3586 Tanks for answering! Seems way better then addon will try this next time
Sweet top hat and canes.
What are those bounty chips? They look pretty neat.
Those are custom 49mm ceramics from BrProPoker.com, I've been meaning to do a video on my bounty chips for awhile now, hopefully soon.
How much is the optional re entry that you charge?
I do the same price for the same amount of chips - $45 for 20K plus a $5 bounty. If a player surrenders their short stack, then it's just $40 for 20K
Hi! Awsome video. How does your payout works?