Taking a total of nine schools from the MW doesn’t dissolve the conference. When you announce you’re leaving you lose your voting rights. You have a three school conference that will divide around $200M by three.
@@saturdayswarriorbyu most of the people who are blathering about dissolving the conference to avoid paying exit fees must think that the presidents, AD's and the lawyers at the schools left behind are idiots. Most of these fans have very little understanding of contract law nor do they really understand how the conference by-laws were written, voted on and adopted. In short, the real idiots are the fans who think they have all of the answers.
If 9 were in agreement to leave at once, they have the power to dissolve the conference , which would also do away with the penalties/fees , if they do it a little at a time and don't vote first, then of course they lose that advantage, that is why its not likely many more MW teams go to the new PAC. There are rumors now that MW is negotiating reduced fees if PAC takes most or all, but that would hurt TV revenue and overall strength so I doubt it happens.
That is not correct. If 9 out of the current 12 schools vote to dissolve the conference the conference is dissolved. If the conference is down to 8 teams then I believe it’s only 6 votes that are required
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I've never doubted that the Montana schools should be at least frontrunners for MWC expansion, but I wasn't sure if they'd want to go FBS. Sometimes it makes sense to continue to dominate where you're at vs possibly struggling at the next level.
Would be awesome to see The GRIZ MOVE UP....Zoo town on Saturday is crazy. Grew up in Anaconda so I have always had love for Griz Football. But I am a Boise State fan through and through. Always have been. Went to school with Ciche Pitcher. And worked for Braxton Hills dad when I was in HS. Griz absolutely need to do this!!!
@bryanpbrowning8620 Agreed! 🥳 Just Watching Applichian State Play a Nationally Televised Thursday Night Game, I Was Thinking That Should Be The Montana Schools Instead! 🫨
What the Grizz fans believe & what UM & MSU will actually do are two very different things. I wont be shocked when they don't join the MWC, but it would be a shocker if they actally did.
Memphis Tulane UConn and i know this is a long shot from hell.....but Notre Dame if they could possibly be persuaded....... Notre Dame tho would be huge for not only the clout but also in helping the PAC conference regain an automatic bid....... I honestly feel even tho its not likely it should be pursued........ Fortune favors the Bold
People keep underestimating what UNM brings to the table. Top 50 TV market. Huge basketball program that sells out the Pit regularly. Also Bronco Mendenhall is transforming the football program that has a 40,000 seat stadium as an asset. If the Pac goes back to the MW table, UNM is definitely being added.
Too bad Bronco didn't go there a couple years ago. I believe UNM football would look much more attractive. We'll see if the people in charge feel the same.
That program is only doing better because of BM. As soon as he has any success he’ll be pulled up to the next gig and UNM will be back where they started.
Y'all just lost to Montana State. I am a former resident of Bozeman.....you guys should have won by a good margin. Unfortunately N.M. lobos football has been bottom tier for far far too long. As a former member of Local 76 Heat and Frost Insulators of Albuquerque NM. I also know that most everything you said is true ......the pit does sell out regularly. When I lived down there Danny Granger was killing it in basketball......so if Bronco Mendenhall can turn that program around it would be great to see what the future holds.....
@@BroncoBleymaier Bronco Mendenhall himself has said that he’s not interested in a big program that is already successful. He likes building success stories with struggling programs, he said that even when taking this job. He would’ve stayed at Virginia much longer if he didn’t leave for personal reasons. Having said that, BYU is still solid to this day because of the foundation that Bronco built. Don’t think that if Bronco stays at UNM for 10 years, that this program won’t be changed for the good. Bronco got married and had his first child while he was DC at UNM under Rocky Long. Don’t think for one second that this isn’t personal to him. Bronco Mendenhall isn’t in it for the money or fame and that’s what makes him so different from any of the other FBS coaches. He could’ve easily gotten other jobs but he chose this one in a heart beat.
@@saturdayswarriorbyuMendenhall was in Albequerque before he took the Provo gig, promising to clean up the Crowton "mess". Not only did UNM badly suck when Bronco was HV there, like always; the BYU FB team following the honor code is more about lies & cover-ups than reality... just as ut was under LaVell.
Its actually close, yes. The Big Lubbock, with zero west coast venues is untenable. Stillwater, Lubbock, Waco and Provo Or San Diego, Oregon Coast, New Orleans and Memphis? Its close. Too close.
@@saturdayswarriorbyuTrue.. and thebiggest obstacle to that was always Cal & Stanford... the "cancer" schools. The also opposed expansion to the end- ruining the new TV deal & blowing up the PAC. I just laugh when delusional people suggest Cal/Stanford will return to the PAC- They are too good fr everyone;in their own minds.
An 8 team PAC will clearly be the strongest G6 conference, and will likely get a playoff bid 4 out of 5 years. OSU and WSU joing the MWC wouldn't make the conference any stronger than it is this year, which is probably the 3rd best G5 conference.
@@Archy_Tect San Diego State and Washington State are the only two that I see can be as big as a power 4 team. WS is already there and San Diego can take advantage of being the only team in San Diego outside of the Padres.
I think they attempted that, but it was complex and ultimately didn't make enough sense. And why don't you include Oregon St as a P4 team. They already were.
What other schools do you think the Pac-12 should add?
I know it's a long shot but Notre Dame...... would give the PAC conference clout and possibly help with getting an automatic bid
Tulane, Memphis, UNLV and UTSA. And then Gonzaga and St.Marys for basketball membership.
@@bryanpbrowning8620 It's an extremely long shot. Like close to 0. But you miss 100% of the shots you don't take.
@@DocSkirv Those eastern guys may want a couple more travel buddies. The basketball only schools is interesting if they're interested.
@@bryanpbrowning8620uh..are you stoned? Notre dame has NBC all to themselves. Why would they leave that to take a massive cut in the CRAC12?
Taking a total of nine schools from the MW doesn’t dissolve the conference. When you announce you’re leaving you lose your voting rights. You have a three school conference that will divide around $200M by three.
I'm not sure how the timing works, but that would make sense. But I've seen similar things about dissolving it.
@@saturdayswarriorbyu most of the people who are blathering about dissolving the conference to avoid paying exit fees must think that the presidents, AD's and the lawyers at the schools left behind are idiots. Most of these fans have very little understanding of contract law nor do they really understand how the conference by-laws were written, voted on and adopted. In short, the real idiots are the fans who think they have all of the answers.
If 9 were in agreement to leave at once, they have the power to dissolve the conference , which would also do away with the penalties/fees , if they do it a little at a time and don't vote first, then of course they lose that advantage, that is why its not likely many more MW teams go to the new PAC. There are rumors now that MW is negotiating reduced fees if PAC takes most or all, but that would hurt TV revenue and overall strength so I doubt it happens.
That is not correct. If 9 out of the current 12 schools vote to dissolve the conference the conference is dissolved. If the conference is down to 8 teams then I believe it’s only 6 votes that are required
Bronco you’re not correct about the TV numbers. Boise was #1, Fresno or CSU was 2&3. SJS was 4 or 5 and UNLV was 11. Hawaii was not listed
I'm surprised SDSU isn't higher.
Where did you get your numbers? Mine come from Action News Network and Sports Media Watch. If you are using Medium his numbers are widely inaccurate
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They’d be great additions! Pretty sure Boise State has hosted Gameday though
I've never doubted that the Montana schools should be at least frontrunners for MWC expansion, but I wasn't sure if they'd want to go FBS. Sometimes it makes sense to continue to dominate where you're at vs possibly struggling at the next level.
Would be awesome to see The GRIZ MOVE UP....Zoo town on Saturday is crazy. Grew up in Anaconda so I have always had love for Griz Football. But I am a Boise State fan through and through. Always have been. Went to school with Ciche Pitcher. And worked for Braxton Hills dad when I was in HS. Griz absolutely need to do this!!!
@bryanpbrowning8620 Agreed! 🥳 Just Watching Applichian State Play a Nationally Televised Thursday Night Game, I Was Thinking That Should Be The Montana Schools Instead! 🫨
What the Grizz fans believe & what UM & MSU will actually do are two very different things.
I wont be shocked when they don't join the MWC, but it would be a shocker if they actally did.
Memphis Tulane UConn and i know this is a long shot from hell.....but Notre Dame if they could possibly be persuaded....... Notre Dame tho would be huge for not only the clout but also in helping the PAC conference regain an automatic bid.......
I honestly feel even tho its not likely it should be pursued........ Fortune favors the Bold
ND won't happen. I haven't heard anything about UConn. Their fans were fixed on even joining the Big12. But Memphis and Tulane have to be top options.
We need Memphis and Tulane in the PAC 12. Throw in UNLV too!
Solid picks. But I wonder if they'll need more eastern travel partners and to know they'll be making enough more to make it worth it.
People keep underestimating what UNM brings to the table. Top 50 TV market. Huge basketball program that sells out the Pit regularly. Also Bronco Mendenhall is transforming the football program that has a 40,000 seat stadium as an asset. If the Pac goes back to the MW table, UNM is definitely being added.
Too bad Bronco didn't go there a couple years ago. I believe UNM football would look much more attractive. We'll see if the people in charge feel the same.
That program is only doing better because of BM. As soon as he has any success he’ll be pulled up to the next gig and UNM will be back where they started.
Y'all just lost to Montana State. I am a former resident of Bozeman.....you guys should have won by a good margin.
Unfortunately N.M. lobos football has been bottom tier for far far too long.
As a former member of Local 76 Heat and Frost Insulators of Albuquerque NM. I also know that most everything you said is true ......the pit does sell out regularly. When I lived down there Danny Granger was killing it in basketball......so if Bronco Mendenhall can turn that program around it would be great to see what the future holds.....
@@BroncoBleymaier Bronco Mendenhall himself has said that he’s not interested in a big program that is already successful. He likes building success stories with struggling programs, he said that even when taking this job. He would’ve stayed at Virginia much longer if he didn’t leave for personal reasons. Having said that, BYU is still solid to this day because of the foundation that Bronco built. Don’t think that if Bronco stays at UNM for 10 years, that this program won’t be changed for the good. Bronco got married and had his first child while he was DC at UNM under Rocky Long. Don’t think for one second that this isn’t personal to him. Bronco Mendenhall isn’t in it for the money or fame and that’s what makes him so different from any of the other FBS coaches. He could’ve easily gotten other jobs but he chose this one in a heart beat.
@@saturdayswarriorbyuMendenhall was in Albequerque before he took the Provo gig, promising to clean up the Crowton "mess".
Not only did UNM badly suck when Bronco was HV there, like always; the BYU FB team following the honor code is more about lies & cover-ups than reality... just as ut was under LaVell.
12 to 14 teams water down the TV money. Can't always worry about teams leaving. It's unknown
Only if they don’t bring value. Can’t add teams just to add them but there are at least 6-8 good teams that would add strong value to the conference
Agreed. But they're probably working closely with the TV networks to make sure they're making additions to maximize TV money.
Utah
They sure do love the Pac-12 😂
But do we even want them…? 😉😂
Its actually close, yes. The Big Lubbock, with zero west coast venues is untenable.
Stillwater, Lubbock, Waco and Provo
Or
San Diego, Oregon Coast, New Orleans and Memphis?
Its close. Too close.
BYU they now are good enough to be in the pac12
The Pac-12 may not be in this position had they taken BYU.
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@@saturdayswarriorbyuTrue.. and thebiggest obstacle to that was always Cal & Stanford... the "cancer" schools. The also opposed expansion to the end- ruining the new TV deal & blowing up the PAC.
I just laugh when delusional people suggest Cal/Stanford will return to the PAC- They are too good fr everyone;in their own minds.
@@saturdayswarriorbyu BYU has less marketability than SLCC.
Pac 12 is just another G5 conference. They should've just merged with the Mountain West as the Pac12.
An 8 team PAC will clearly be the strongest G6 conference, and will likely get a playoff bid 4 out of 5 years. OSU and WSU joing the MWC wouldn't make the conference any stronger than it is this year, which is probably the 3rd best G5 conference.
@@Archy_Tect San Diego State and Washington State are the only two that I see can be as big as a power 4 team. WS is already there and San Diego can take advantage of being the only team in San Diego outside of the Padres.
I think they attempted that, but it was complex and ultimately didn't make enough sense. And why don't you include Oregon St as a P4 team. They already were.
@@saturdayswarriorbyu I always felt that Oregon State was the doorstop of the Pac12. They reminded me of Vanderbilt in the SEC.
BSU SDSU FS and CSU need to separate themselves from the lower tier MTN West teams. This should have happened years ago
To the PAC:
Memphis and Tulane
UTSA and Rice
Utah State and Wyoming
South Florida and Southern Miss
UConn and Georgia State
16
that's yucky lol
I realize that there's strength in numbers, but this conference will need every school to pull its weight for them to maximize profit.
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Memphis, Tulane and UAB.
@@dg1019 UAB? You'd stick to 9?