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As a ramper i can say that the workers of the video don't represent our work, in reality and with no cameras we treat the baggage like 50 times harder with kicks and everything. But not bc we want, but bc we are ordered to do what it takes to load the airplane in time.
Yes and no. It really depends. When there's a light load like this, there's hardly any reason to be super abusive with the bags.
This couldn't have been any further from the truth. Been working on the ramp for 6 years (for AA) and I've worked many many many flights and never has myself or anyone I've ever worked on a crew with ever treated bags any rougher than what was shown in this video, looks like any ordinary flight that I've ever worked. Not sure if you work for an actual carrier or a contractor but I'd imagine that intentionally being abusive to peoples bags is mostly seen with contractor companies. Not saying that everyone who works for an actual carrier is perfect by any means.. obviously their are some bad apples out there.
@@tylersutton142 i have never seen that, and i work for a carrier. Time is money, and they make you that very clear from day one.
@@tylersutton142 you aren’t wrong. I mean I’ve worked for delta, Alaska, and American and this is fairly accurate specially for American. If you have a good lead or someone who has common sense knows to keep the belt loader at a reasonable pace. At American, it was strict that 4 bags only on the belt least in SAT. Alaska was kinda the same but faster and same with delta. There should be no need to kick bags in if you stack correctly.
@@tylersutton142 I work for a contractor and this is similar to how we treat bags as well. Sometimes we get the odd bag that weighs 70-80 pnd a in which case we do kind of throw that shit to the back of the pit with the entire force of our body but that’s just what it is lol
I do this same job, but here in LAS we feed the bags way faster than this. This would be a dream come true for most of us in our company if the bags were fed this slow. Lol it's a tough job but it pays the bill's. 🤙
Oh and yes, there are turn around times that have to be met so that travelers who check their bags in, don't expect gentleness all the time because the guys on the bottom have a very tough and hard job to do in a professional and timely manner so that you as passengers on the aircraft can get to your destinations on time or earlier. I personally recommend not having anything fragile in your checked in luggage, you should always carry on your fragile items. Oh and another note. Just because you can pack it, doesn't mean you should. Meaning when you travel, travel light.....don't pack your entire house or 3/4 of your house in your luggage lol (sarcasm). Pack light and go home heavy lol makes sense right 🤙 Stay blessed and safe travels everyone.
I was wondering how the fragile luggage (like my surfboard) is loaded in there, could you give me some insight so I can prepare it for it?
HY III I completely agree turn times are tough being an agent that worked in SEA ramp back to back flights no lunch on some days. But having airplane tires to 5k of fish boxes with 200 bags on a plane on a download and upload is just beyond crazy
HY III I really respect your job! It must be really hot in there during the summer. Thanks for doing what you do!
this is a tough job! Salute!
this is why you should have a luggage with 4 wheels especially when flying on a low cost airline
Hownottobuild As a ramper that has worked on low cost airlines. I can confirm your statement.
Hownottobuild YES BUT PLEASE DONT GET THE PLASTIC CASE ONES. THEYRE A BITCH TO STACK
Better yet, don't fly on 737s, fly on A310s, 330s, etc..
Idunnohuur I don’t fly on low cost/budget airlines luckily
@@glaxko2 won’t make a difference in narrow bodies. When you’re pressed for time you have to. The 737 you can use the power store belt loader in.. the a320 series you can’t so you have to do it this way. Widebody planes are typically for long haul flights so the chances of flying on an A330 or bigger are limited if your flying within the country
And this folks, is why you take your laptops, tablets or other easily damaged items in your carry on baggage.
Bloodgod40 And this folks, is why you get 4 wheel rollers and don’t be a cheap ass on bags😂
Honestly😂
And your a dumbass if you put your laptop in a carry bag instead of a bag you can put inside
Only Morons leave laptops in their bags
It’s actually against FAA regulations to pack your lithium battery powered electronics in your checked bags. If somehow the item catches fire, no one can get to it if it’s the baggage hold.
This brings back memories! I had such a great time being a ramp rat! One of the best most fun jobs I’ve ever had. Unfortunately there is a time limit and the body says no more.
My respect to them, this is a very taught job, loading all these heavy luggage all day is not easy
Actually is not that hard 😎 been doing it for 4 1/2 years
That's a tight stack. Nice work fellas! -PDX
🤔 So the moral of this story is, get a bag with a full set of wheels and it won't get thrown.
Nope ,the wheels will be snapped of sooner or later!
Yes
I miss being a ramp agent, it kept me super fit and made me stronger.
What do you do now? Im curious
Work smarter, not harder. That's the first thing that came to mind when I saw this video. Amazing job.
Respect! Because of these heroes, people can go and enjoy their holidays.
Enjoy the holidays with broken baggage.
wow! im impressed! your handling of baggage is a lot better then the standard!
Wow. That looks like hard work. Has anyone ever accidentally got locked in the cargo with the bags and the plane took off?
No, I don't think that ever happened because the ground crew will notice someone is missing in their team. The pilots will know it quick and the guy in the bulk will probably have to pay a fine or maybe go to prison.
the hardest part when a passenger dddnt showed up and u need to find his bag 1 out of a hundred of these to remove on the flight 😂
I actually was looking for a video on this
the real goal in my life is to see my bag in one of these videos
At this what u do. Those 100 degree days are brutal man. Gatta u load and load up again in under 30 minutes
This is what I do*
josh reed liar you don’t work
United airlines Thought that their customers were luggage
Daaaamn your belt loader is going so slow! LMAO
That or the crew down on the ramp are spacing out the luggage
If its less than 30 bags I would half stack it. Makes it easier for the people that work the flight at the airport the plane is flying to and for the guys loading the plane.
Its not Reagan over here in New Zealand you’ll see over 100 bags more often, 30 to 50 bags is a rarity and that’s just the forward hold
turnaround time matters. every minute counts
JESI EMMANUEL BUENSUCESO these guys are slow
@@stevewaite381 not
So basically have a 4 wheel luggage for slightly better treatment 😂
Moral of the story - If you don't want your bags thrown, get a bag with 4 rollers on the bottom. Two isn't enough.
The 4 wheel luggage (cheap luggage anyway) breaks and you end up with 3 wheels or 4 wheels and one is broke (this causing it to stop from rolling at all)
This was really calm and really slow, REALLY SLOW. Try doing 100 bags, heavy bags as well, golf clubs, etc…. Faster paced too. The loaders onto belt were super slow
Where I work we typically go double or even triple that pace. Needless to say our stacking isn't nearly that neat at the end of the day.
Quality over quantity
Just means your not organized! No way should bags be on top of each other!!
When the hold is not 100% full, do you retain the bags with a net or something to stop them from shifting?
Yes, most aircraft have netting that will stop bags from getting close to the cargo door. Some have netting throughout the compartments to stop bags from moving around as much. This is a 737 so there would be 3 sets of netting that will be done up around where the guy closest to the camera is sitting.
Wow I love how much they realize how fragile our belongings are and handle the bags with care
R_CADEIOUS just don’t be a poor bitch and get a 4 wheel roller bag and your good
But baggage handlers would appreciate if you understand how fragile our body is, so as not to load them unnecessarily.
You have no idea how much weight do we have to load every single day and how that affects our health in the long term.
Do you want to get to your destination on time or not?
I was stacking the other day. Over 100 bags in one bin, each weighing anywhere from 30-70, possibly more. If the average was 40lbs, that’s still organizing in a smaller space, 4,000lbs. And at a faster pace than this.
This does not include moving bags from carousel into carts, from carts onto belt loader, and then unloading, loading onto carts and then taking carts to baggage claim and then from carts to baggage claim belt
Now they have a much more advanced method called The Snake that moves the bags all the way to the back on automated rollers.
Power stow. It also gets in the way and doesn’t make a big difference
Also very expensive lol
This is narrowbody, wide body planes use ULDs. ULDs are big metal bins that go into the bin.
Key takeaway: always use a luggage with wheels, and make it as heavy as possible so they can't throw it 😅 anyways, it's so satisfying watching this video =) and it's a tough job indeed!
4 wheels is the best 😅
I came here from daly dose of the internet.
Same 😂😂
Link?
This is hard job for your back I hope they pay good 👍
How do you pack bicycle bags that aren't made of a solid material? Do you make it stand up so rear casette and the disc brakes get no pressure from the other luggages put on the top of it?
As a ramp agent in SJU we normally set it aside and leave it for last
I heard the Union Rep in IAH is the worst Union in the world. They said people were just wasting their monthly union due. Bec I heard the union will not flight for you if you are not CLOsE with them.
note to self buy luggage with four wheels and salute to you guys if I was pushing it wouldnt even make it halfway to the guy stacking
THIS JOB GAVE ME SIX PACK
Good thing they make Luggage 🧳 as durable as they do 🧐😲
What are the basics things a person needs to know about Airport loading
It's alot tougher when loading A1 instead of F2
hard working
Very nice
Hey guys ..Question...you could stack them to the top of the bulkhead but you have to leave 2" from the ceiling ?
Per FAA we are supposed to leave 2” gap but most of the people don’t care about that 🤦🏽♂️ “I do care”
Some you can’t stack above the fire suppression line, if it’s above, the luggage will block the suppression material.
Something that I’ve always wondered is does that part of the plane smell like the cabin of the plane? I’m not talking about the smell from the fuel, I’m talking about the smell that you get when you first walk into the cabin upon boarding
Not really, most of them smells like fish 😂
I know the secret now, next time I’m gonna make sure my luggage is heavy enough so they roll it over instead of tossing in the air. Perhaps put some bricks too 😂
They'll appreciate the excessive weight fees you'll pay !
Glad this isn’t the E-Jet where the cargo hold is cramped
Embraer is every ground handlers nightmare, Fokker 70/100 is even worse but they are not much to be seen around anymore luckily. Can only stack two bags in the height, maybe three if you're lucky! 😂
Ur taking good care
Okay now i knew how my luggage bag tire was broken
LMFAOOO
Is it a federal offense if a baggage handler steals from luggage making more serious than a landfill worker stealing from a landfill recycling station
That's CRAZY ! why couldn't a bin be built that fits in there ? what if the cargo shifts ?
One, they have tie downs, two, the amount of time itd take would be unbelievable with bins
@@tomatosoupwoo Every other plane has bins, come on....
This is insane. Jesus!
This is nothing
Brother, I know what your up against. Great Job !!!
Never new the luggage compartment was that small
The “bin” job isn’t for tall overweight people, also not for the week. Maneuvering 40-80lb bags in a smaller space isn’t easy
Good job
careful with that red one....it's mine! Just kidding, but cool to see how it's done. Thanks!
Really? you're just kidding??
So that's how my new luggage received scuff marks and tears. 🤔😲😤
No power stow is crazy 😭
LUGGAGE TIPS 1, 2, 3
Tie two or three colored ribbons of different lengths around the handle to your luggage to warn others that this is not their luggage. People grab luggage at the turnstile and take it home before you ever see it.
Anywhere you put your bag, it could be grabbed in error. Example: overhead compartment, unloaded from the bus, at the hotel lobby, at the turnstile...
Use 1” wide ribbons 14” long. Cut the ends at 45 degrees then seal the end with one drop of Super Glue to prevent fraying. If each ribbon is slightly a different length by 1/2” or so, they will all show up no matter how they drape.
Tie the 3 ribbons as a sandwich, as if they were one ribbon. Use a man’s tie, a half Windsor knot for the best look. After it is tied on, the total length of the ribbons will be about 5 inches from the handle. It is too short to catch on anything.
You can see this ribbon from 40 feet away. Perhaps tie TWO handles or RINGS top and side of the case. This way, it won’t slide around. This knot does not loosen.
Put your phone number on one ribbon using a permanent Sharpie.
Example: “Owner 454-333-7878”
Choose one ribbon with an unusual pattern or fabric to really make it unique.
Stand by the output hole port of the turnstile to reduce the chance of someone else grabbing the piece.
Tie your skiies, duffel bag, and what ever with matching ribbons-even your computer case.
If you are a Travel Agent, you could hot gold stamp one ribbon with your name and phone number. Send them a set of ribbons, red and blue and BLACK to your customer as a gift. Record this gift in your database so you don’t duplicate yourself.
Buy a gold hot embossing machine. Gold emboss your business name on the BLACK ribbon. Put the customer’s name on it if possible.
Pleasant color combinations:
Red and blue
Chartreuse and purple
Orange and light blue
Orange and yellow
Gray and pink
Green and yellow
Red and Green
Red and Gold
Light blue and light green
The third ribbon could be white, gray, black, tan
Tip #2 Take a cell phone picture of the ribbon tied on. Then another picture of the full luggage piece. You now have a way to communicate “what it looks like”.
Tip #3 Place a strip of colored duct tape on the inside lining to your case. Put your name and phone number on this tape. If all identity is stripped from your case, you have this to show. If someone steals it and rips off identity tags, you can show the police officer the inside tape.
Or you could just throw an apple AirTag in your luggage, duh
Nice do you know if a bagage handler is cought stealing from suitcases is it federal offense same as TSA stealing
Short stack it! Common man!
ARx Productions exactly
Short stack it?
Summer time is the worst in ca
Im also a ramper and pisses me off when people put “FRAGILE “ on a 80lb bag!!!!!
There is nothing better than bulking out a well-stacked bin. Well, sex, maybe...
please do it with extra care
Saya dulu bekerja sebagai ini, haha seperti dikejar2 setan ketika memuat tas harus cepat, assemmmmmh belum lagi kena tas yg berat isinya, mungkin penumpang bawa batu bata ditas
You guys are doing just fine !
No wonder handling like this is a problem with most airlines.Ypur bags can get to the destination but always broken.
Lol passengers have not been into those long and short cargo holds
4 wheel best because if anything to break it ll with 2 wheel 😳😳😳
Hey guys.. great job! I have a question.. we are soon flying with a KLM 737-800 and our request to add surfboard (280 x 60 x 15 cm) is denied due to "too big size to fit in 737 cargo compartment".. is this true? It looks small door and cargo department but is it completely impossible to fit / twist / turn in a boardbag of this length?
My guess is their flights must have heavy baggage load. Where I work we get golf club bags, skis, surfboards, snow boards, bikes etc. We typically have 737-900er which is longer than the-800 but the door sizes are the same so I guess it just they would want extra space to make sure all the bags have ample space to fit.
Bags that put at bottom must be broken after that much load on the top :)
Not at all, manufacturers know what they go through and build them and test them
This is where the Airbus aircraft are clearly better for loading crew. These poor bastards are playing Tetris in the heat. Airbus uses containers on their A320 family aircraft.
DV556 I prefer loading boeing 737
DV556 i heard that most airlines don't use containers on their a320 because they can fit more if it is bulkloaded not sure if this is true.
Most airlines do not use containers on A319/A320s.
I have never seen a container on a narrow body Airbus, and I have loaded thousands of them. Not to mention the containers add weight and that cost money to every flight. Personally, I prefer the Airbus vs. the Boeing narrow bodies as they have more head room, and tossing the bags to the back are closer due to the position of the bin door with the exception of the forward bin on the A321.
From my experience, the Boeing 737-800/900 is cleary better to load since they have no height limit. The Airbus Aircraft has to have at least 2 inches of room from the highest luggage to the roof. If there is no limit, you can at least fit 15-20% more load. But be aware that the floor can not take too much load anyways. So at the Airbus A320 for example, we usually load 30-35 pieces of luggage per compartment. So that means around 100 piece in the front. But the Airbus is better to work since they are more high. Boeing is a bit more lower. Both have down and upvotes.
And this is how zips and wheels of the bag get damaged 😤
That belt loader is much too high
OMG
All these rampers on here an NO notices the belt loader in the plane lol or even touching the A/C
It would be nice if they wouldn’t just throw everything!
Ouch masakit sa likod at sa tuhod, buti naka short ang loader dahil kung pants yan dali mawasak at madumihan. Maganda talaga kapag laktaw laktaw ang paglagay ng bagahe sa convieur yung di apurado.
Didn't you use a powerstow or a rampsnake?
Powerstow/snake is a really expensive equipment. The ground handling companies are pushed with earning profits since the airliners wants the cheapest company to provide service. Therefore it limits the ground support equipments that can be bought.
Powerstow is getting more popular, but mostly on huge airports.
My airport still use equipment from early 90s...
This is exactly why I don’t check my bags in unless needed
try packing the bags on there side it will hold more
That would mean lifting luggage higher to stack on top. You’d probably lose storage space with that way
I Am Loader thailand airport it very hardwork
Waffen SS yes I can imagine you working at 36 degrees and 90% humidity.... Do you work at Don Muang Bangkok?
Boeing's are still good planes
Me to ,
I to work in dubai airport same work its not easy to hard work whole day and here the climate is also very dangerous from march to oct we have to work in very hot .god bless all of us
اللي جاء من عند د/عبدالرحمن لايك😂🏃🏻♀️
When it’s heavy you don’t frow it 🤔🤔
Thats how Jetblue broke my fucking suitcase
Oha
My luggage is new, after this video, I can see it being damaged and scratched. It a hard shell luggage and my favorite Color :(
I understand it’s hot and the job you guys do is hard, hopefully my luggage will not be damaged.
I work this job and honestly we don't have time to be gentle, and even if we were your luggage will just be thrown around in the baggage claim area. Best advice is not to spend too much money on luggage and expect to replace it often
Please don’t frow the baggages
Say goodbye to your back.
It’s not a job for tall people. It’s hard on the elbows, it can be anyway
seems like klmers trow with luggage
Lol no wonder my stuff always gets broken ahhhh I see.
Well bro sorry man ramp agents have a tight schedule it’s not like that’s their only flight to manage
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So what about animals?
No se volean las maletas
What airline is this?
Super Jello united airlines
I just want to know why you frow it
Because they only have 20-30 minutes to pack all those bags and don't have time to be gentle
Why do you throw it maybe there might be something in there that might break
Satta BRO
what is that airline
NICOCRAFT united Airlines
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