Would be interested in your take on the 2 tier pricing more and more shops are bringing in. It feels even more exploitative than older points/voucher schemes.
i agree, I've been seeing this practice increase at alarming rates in the past year. the fact consumers can only access reasonable prices if they agree to have their purchases tracked by Clubcard etc. is so concerning, not to mention that these "discount" Clubcard prices are the same as regular prices before this was implemented. it's disgusting, and i would definitely appreciate your take on it.
Although I agree with the principle of the thing I'm a bit wary of nationalising supermarkets completely. In terms of profiteering last year tesco had profits of ~3bn on revenue of ~62bn. Given the monstrous size of tesco, though 3bn is a lot in absolute terms I am skeptical redistributing this would be enough to cut costs in any meaningful way to consumers or pay workers/farmers fairly. Plus, there's a lot of things supermarkets do that at least *seem* to help out poor people, like essentials like pasta being loss-making. Yeah they're not doing it out of the goodness of their hearts but in practice it does help. Overall I just don't know, I'm skeptical the immense cost of nationalising supermarkets would be worth it, and I'm wary of this passing on a bigger cost to poor consumers. I just need to see specific numbers and specific plans to be convinced, if poor people are squeezed enough already as it is, can they afford price rises needed to pay workers and producers fairly and treat them ethically? Perhaps my skepticism is just from the capitalist system making us feel as though being an "ethical consumer" is only possible for middle class people with money to spare..
Yes nationalise Asda sure but why not as an immediate recommendation tell people to shop at their local market, it’s cheaper, better quality and circumvents all the issues with supermarkets u highlighted here? I don’t know what it’s like down south but up north most proper towns have a local market. People too overworked and tired to choose anything other than absolute convenience and don’t know that u don’t have to eat ASDA shit quality chicken wrapped in 1000000x random plastics.
I think it's much harder for those living in cities to find and shop at a local market, because they're so few and far between, or don't exist at all. It's something I found when moving from a fairly urbanised town into the big city for work. The town had a few local shops and a weekly farmers market, but the city just doesn't have that option. Add in the fact that I don't have a car and do rely on the local Tesco for my shop.
Unfortunately the only market we get is every 3 months or so and it's basically just a way to get boar or venison. I don't even think there are any vegetables come to think of it.
I have thoughts. I don't think nationalising supermarkets is the correct route, however, nationalising local agriculture endeavours (crop, dairy, meat etc) I think would be the better option. This ensures that our local farmers get the fair pay they deserve. Then, legislate the percentage markup (maybe fixed at 10 or 15%?) margins on local goods to keep the prices low for the consumer, but still incentivise the supermarkets to sell them. This, I think would provide a win-win-win for all when it comes to local foods. Also legislate animal welfare, because duh. But this potentially wouldn't touch other things in supermarkets, such as convenience foods, toiletries, cleaning supplies, clothes, etc. However, I wouldn't know where to even start with imported goods. Maybe place the fixed percentage on fresh produce that is imported (mangoes, bananas, things that are out of season in the UK), but that might cause the international farmers to sell to those that don't have a fixed markup rate for maximum profit. This is actually a tough one because food is obviously integral to our survival, but it's also so international it would be hard to legislate and be effective in curbing price gouging. It's not like education or water, because those are essentially done 'in-house' i.e. within the UK (we don't import water or teachers as far as I'm aware), but the food industry is a whole other ball game.
I agree that supermarkets can go too far but nationalising them is going too far. There are 7 supermarket chains and lots of smaller ones. That's a healthy competition. People can shop at other supermarkets than Tesco.
Exactly. Considering that the UK public sector is rife with inefficiencies, mismanagement and possibly even corruption, nationalising it will probably introduce more problems than solving them.
@oscarmccoy9102 Labour syndicates are a means of organising production of economic value that places decision-making power in the hands of those directly charged with producing/providing the good or service in question, or in the hands of delegates elected by them to exercise decision-making power on their behalf, on an issue-by-issue basis. Though similar in concept to a worker co-operative, a labour syndicate differs in that it doesn't function within a competitive market, nor does it necessarily operate on a commercial basis.
@@davidparry5310 so farmers and other agricultural producers will have more of a say in the production line and payment they get from supermarkets? Why do you think they aren’t widely implemented?
Would be interested in your take on the 2 tier pricing more and more shops are bringing in. It feels even more exploitative than older points/voucher schemes.
i agree, I've been seeing this practice increase at alarming rates in the past year. the fact consumers can only access reasonable prices if they agree to have their purchases tracked by Clubcard etc. is so concerning, not to mention that these "discount" Clubcard prices are the same as regular prices before this was implemented. it's disgusting, and i would definitely appreciate your take on it.
i use towork at tesco . absolutely mind numbing !!! and insulting too !!!
Love your work Joe. 🧡
Suggestion: have you ever done a video on young, unpaid carers (
I'll put it on the list! It will be covered alongside my pension video (which is coming in the new year).
Although I agree with the principle of the thing I'm a bit wary of nationalising supermarkets completely. In terms of profiteering last year tesco had profits of ~3bn on revenue of ~62bn. Given the monstrous size of tesco, though 3bn is a lot in absolute terms I am skeptical redistributing this would be enough to cut costs in any meaningful way to consumers or pay workers/farmers fairly. Plus, there's a lot of things supermarkets do that at least *seem* to help out poor people, like essentials like pasta being loss-making. Yeah they're not doing it out of the goodness of their hearts but in practice it does help.
Overall I just don't know, I'm skeptical the immense cost of nationalising supermarkets would be worth it, and I'm wary of this passing on a bigger cost to poor consumers. I just need to see specific numbers and specific plans to be convinced, if poor people are squeezed enough already as it is, can they afford price rises needed to pay workers and producers fairly and treat them ethically? Perhaps my skepticism is just from the capitalist system making us feel as though being an "ethical consumer" is only possible for middle class people with money to spare..
Yes nationalise Asda sure but why not as an immediate recommendation tell people to shop at their local market, it’s cheaper, better quality and circumvents all the issues with supermarkets u highlighted here?
I don’t know what it’s like down south but up north most proper towns have a local market. People too overworked and tired to choose anything other than absolute convenience and don’t know that u don’t have to eat ASDA shit quality chicken wrapped in 1000000x random plastics.
I think it's much harder for those living in cities to find and shop at a local market, because they're so few and far between, or don't exist at all. It's something I found when moving from a fairly urbanised town into the big city for work. The town had a few local shops and a weekly farmers market, but the city just doesn't have that option. Add in the fact that I don't have a car and do rely on the local Tesco for my shop.
Unfortunately the only market we get is every 3 months or so and it's basically just a way to get boar or venison. I don't even think there are any vegetables come to think of it.
So how do we start to force change?
I got a video coming on that New Year’s Eve… as a start, anyway.
@ thank you sir! A cup of tea ready and waiting.
I have thoughts. I don't think nationalising supermarkets is the correct route, however, nationalising local agriculture endeavours (crop, dairy, meat etc) I think would be the better option. This ensures that our local farmers get the fair pay they deserve. Then, legislate the percentage markup (maybe fixed at 10 or 15%?) margins on local goods to keep the prices low for the consumer, but still incentivise the supermarkets to sell them. This, I think would provide a win-win-win for all when it comes to local foods. Also legislate animal welfare, because duh. But this potentially wouldn't touch other things in supermarkets, such as convenience foods, toiletries, cleaning supplies, clothes, etc.
However, I wouldn't know where to even start with imported goods. Maybe place the fixed percentage on fresh produce that is imported (mangoes, bananas, things that are out of season in the UK), but that might cause the international farmers to sell to those that don't have a fixed markup rate for maximum profit.
This is actually a tough one because food is obviously integral to our survival, but it's also so international it would be hard to legislate and be effective in curbing price gouging. It's not like education or water, because those are essentially done 'in-house' i.e. within the UK (we don't import water or teachers as far as I'm aware), but the food industry is a whole other ball game.
I agree that supermarkets can go too far but nationalising them is going too far.
There are 7 supermarket chains and lots of smaller ones.
That's a healthy competition.
People can shop at other supermarkets than Tesco.
Exactly.
Considering that the UK public sector is rife with inefficiencies, mismanagement and possibly even corruption, nationalising it will probably introduce more problems than solving them.
They should all be reorganised from below as worker co-operatives or labour syndicates if you ask me.
@@davidparry5310what are those?
@oscarmccoy9102 Labour syndicates are a means of organising production of economic value that places decision-making power in the hands of those directly charged with producing/providing the good or service in question, or in the hands of delegates elected by them to exercise decision-making power on their behalf, on an issue-by-issue basis. Though similar in concept to a worker co-operative, a labour syndicate differs in that it doesn't function within a competitive market, nor does it necessarily operate on a commercial basis.
@@davidparry5310 so farmers and other agricultural producers will have more of a say in the production line and payment they get from supermarkets? Why do you think they aren’t widely implemented?
Grow your own food. 🤷♂️
with what land?
I disagree with you. Supermarkets are probably the best example that exists of free market competition driving better outcomes for consumers.
How exactly is it better for customers?