The thing about Hislop (and his long time panel show colleague, Paul Merton) is that he is one of the vanishingly rare few people in the public domain who hasn’t turned out to be a bastard, or allowed his advantages of being popular in the public eye to corrupt him at all. I’ve been an admirer of Hislop’s since the 1980’s, reading his rag since the days when Richard Ingrams ran the show and Ian Hislop, “stuck to him like a limpet,” as Peter Cook put it. And I’ve seen every episode of Have I Got News For You since its inception. When he does a documentary series, or writes for a TV show, he always uses that opportunity as a way to serve the public good; either by giving us insights into current affairs and laughing at them, or showing us lesser known aspects of history that have come to define us, or resulted in the institutions we have today. One of the very few people I know of worthy of our, “admiration,” and perhaps, “National Treasure,” status.
I'd put him up there with George Carlin and Christopher Hitchens. Joe Rogan would've been there , but sadly seems to have sold out in order to ride the anti woke sludge.
@@colloquialsoliloquy6391 To consider Rogan to be anywhere near the calibre of Carlin, Hitchens or Hislop, is delusional. Even before his Spotify deal, he was nothing more than a hack comedian. Since the deal he has become a toxic sewer of misinformation.
I would never have had Rogan in such exalted company in the first place. After all, if you can be conned by someone you know to be an habitual liar, and then line up behind him, then there must be something fundermentally wrong with your judgement. Neither Hitchens, Carlin or Ian Hislop would ever have fallen for an odius, corrupt rapist like Trump.
Wow, thanks for the info, from Czechia. The little that´s available to me suggests you´re totally right. "The Stiff Upper Lip" was a rare and enlightening delight.
To be honest, whilst I’ve thoroughly appreciated PoliticsJoe for a number of years now, Mr Hislop’s consistent contributions, despite the Eye’s reluctance in respect of the ‘content space,’ really did direct me towards this jewel of TH-cam. Can’t think of a more compelling endorsement in the current iteration of political and societal catastrophic evolutions of Britain
Ian Hislop is an International Treasure, I am glad I came across him, Private Eye and HIGNFY early in life. Being American I can be confident in him not only making me laugh, but also give it to me straight on world events, and other news stories no matter how depressing it is. He doesn't play into the rich, celebrities or politicians, and that realness makes him a legend, a figure that we can all look to for the facts!
He's a *National* treasure. I really wish American's would stop claiming prolific and wonderful Brits as "International Treasures". You've got plenty of your own, let us keep the few we have.
@@BSideWasTaken I don't think they were trying to take credit for Hislop; I think they just meant that Hislop is appreciated by intelligent people the world 'round
@@BSideWasTaken I´m Czech and I was actually thinking about writing the "international treasure" thing before I found this comment 🙂 No claiming about it, just delight and respect. You´re free to call any Czech an "international treasure" if you want 🙂 You´ll be getting our orchestra conductor Jakub Hrůša for the Royal Opera soon, so there´s a candidate for you 😜
Before 1984 farmers payed inheritance tax at a higher rate than proposed, there were a lot more family farms back then than now. Since the tax loophole was introduced land prices have skyrocketed probably a huge reason why there are less family farms now than then.
Yeah, as a layman I'd have assumed given land is currently priced too highly to make actually farming viable for most farmers due to its use as a speculative resource by the massively wealthy (like housing but more so), that discouraging it consolidation in the hands of like 100 people, all while regular farmers have to sell land and work second jobs to keep the lights on would be a good thing. But some guy from the tv with over 50 million told me it was a genocide against farmers so I guess I must be wrong.
Indeed - behind the NFU bluster about impact on multi-generational farms is the less media-friendly fact that owners of agricultural land are looking at 20% reduction in realisable asset value and potentially further reductions as investors price risk of further removal of IHT relief and take their money elsewhere. Meanwhile, the multi-generational family farm is rather less prevalent these days than the NFU would like us all to believe...farming is now only profitable at scale and with significant investment typically requiring borrowing. The pattern in my area (South West Scotland) is smaller farms exit traditional farming but family often remain working in rural economy as contractors to the larger farms. They retain the farm house, yard, barns and some infield but sell off the rest of their land in lots suitable to investors looking for low risk investment with the benefit of IHT relief. The investors then lease it to the remaining larger scale farms at relatively low yields reflecting IHT relief and minimum maintenance costs for an asset that typically tracks inflation. At those valuations, it's not other "family-farms" buying the land. (disclosure - I'm potential investor in agricultural land)
In real terms farmland seems to have been falling in value now for a few years so what gives? I suspect its not just iht but rather bread and butter business (e.g. other taxes, macroeconomy, SUBSIDIES - or changes to them - and so on)
Hundreds of comments rightly praising Mr Hislop, but let's have a bit of love for Joe's Oli as well, we need a level headed next generation to take up the reins one of these days.
Millionaires have been openly telling people how to avoid tax and what they do to avoid tax for years, Clarkson is just surprised that a government is doing something about it for once.
Except they really arent. In fact the gov even just states its not actually an issue, because you can just use tax loopholes... In fact its arguably beneficial to the ultra wealthy. This is the left supporting a policy of ultra wealthy accumulating land faster than it had been, its just not the gov has sped the process up, in exchange for a cut.
@@fabioq6916 All who did? The current government haven't pushed up prices for farmers (until they die). It's Brexit that's royally shafted (living) farmers.
The issue is, the policy doesnt actually target the wealthiest., it was never supposed to. In fact its more likely going to be beneficial to them. If it was a genuine issue for the gov, the legislation would be passed to address it. What we see, is the state slitting the throats of small and mid holdings, to the benefit of the wealthiest, all for a cut.
@@tisFrancesfaultDoes it not? Seems to have riled up Farage and Clarkson, both of which happen to have £3m+ holdings deliberately to avoid inheritance tax.
What I don't get with the Post Office scandal is why all those postmasters haven't been given back their money IMMEDIATELY. I'm not talking about compensation - which they are also obviously due for their mistreatment, but I can understand that that one has to be worked out by the courts first, as to what they are due - but simply the money that the Post Office stole from them. The Post Office said "you owe us so many thousands of pounds" or tens of thousands of pounds, which many postmasters scraped together to avoid criminal prosecution for theft. But the actual theft here was the Post Office saying that that money was owed them. It wasn't. That's just theft. They just stole money from these people through fraud. Claiming it was owed when it wasn't. And, more crucially, when the Post Office itself knew the system was unreliable - so, at the beginning, they were at minimum suspicious that these numbers weren't right and then, later, absolutely knew that it was incorrect, but still pressed ahead with it. The postmasters were asked to make up the difference for money that had not, in fact, been lost. From their own pockets. That's just theft. We can go on to discuss additional compensation for their mistreatment. But, right now, this very instant, we can make the Post Office pay back the money it stole. There's really no complication there. The Post Office fraudulently told these postmasters "you owe us £XXX" and many of these postmasters, from their own pockets, paid that amount to avoid criminal conviction for theft. But those stated values were wrong. So, immediately, give them back that money you stole. After all, when the Post Office accused the postmasters of stealing the money, they were expected to pay it immediately. So now it turns out that that money was not stolen and was obtained fraudulently by the Post Office, they must return it to them IMMEDIATELY. And if they don't, then they are guilty of theft by fraud. Yes, additional compensation for their mistreatment is also due. But, first and foremost, as an immediate matter of urgency, GIVE THEM THEIR MONEY BACK.
In any decent society, those truly responsible (ie. the CEOs and board members) would be jailed for their part in the scandal. Like with the Grenfell Tower atrocity which cost 72 lives, where the entire council resigned in shame and scattered like cockroaches yet NO ONE was prosecuted for criminal negligence. And the PPI scandal where millions were stolen from taxpayers and not one person was jailed when, for instance, we know Baroness Michelle Mone stole £29,000,000 and salted it away in a neat little trust fund. In the UK, white collar crime is usually forgiven in some sense. But you put on a mask and carry a swag-bag and - hey! - you're nicked, mate!
If this was America The Post Office and all Senior Staff at the time would be bankrupt from having been sued for every last penny. In Britain, their victims are still begging to have their own money back. A thoroughly corrupt little country.
I completely agree, but there is an obvious problem. The Post Office didn't keep accurate accounts as the law requires, so no-one knows how much they owe.
Two nice, honest, decent , funny people. Chatting. music to peoples ears I hope. Refreshing at the moment. Great listen. Proud to be British and able to take the piss out of ourselves.
An annual treat - I've been watching Ian since I was a boy. A humane, reasonable and cheerful voice in a howling and furious media landscape. Thanks JOE and thanks Mr. Hislop.
I don't think Labour would have won if they said they would raise taxes. You know that the right-wing papers would have had a field day with it - 'average British home to pay £2000 more in income tax under Labour', and most people won't read the details (if indeed the Mail would publish them). A project fear would have been revived and I'm not convinced Labour can do enough to counter-act it. Especially since so many people bang on about the tax burden (although it's still less than comparable countries in Europe - and a lot less than the Nordic countries which enjoy much better public services).
Or they could've just said theyll do a wealth tax and followed through on it. But that doesn't take into account they were backed by some very rich and influential people!
There was a general expectation that that would be the case. But in a way classic of modern politics, they did its budget in a manner utterly bereft of imagination, both in collection and spending.
@@tisFrancesfault It won’t be the only budget, recently it was recalled that it was the budget in 2000 that turned the taps on for spending particularly the NHS. Despite the much more stable economy they inherited and calmer world situation then, they were very cautious for the first two years.
This. I think it's very easy to say 'they would have got in anyway' after they've already got in. If there's anything the past decade has shown itself that rampant populism is ready, really hard to defeat in elections. If one side is allowed to lie through their teeth and get away with it (in the eyes of voters, not the media), but the other side isn't, it's an uphill struggle before you've started. That's even before you've thrown in all the nasty fuelling of hate through moral panics that get people so riled up.
I agree with @meeds7473 Labour probably wouldn't have won if they said they'd raise taxes. Also in the video around 17:40 the interviewer gives a long list starting with "if they said they'd reduce winter fuel payments..." and ended up saying Labour would have won the election with a reduced majority if they were honest with the electorate about the cuts and tax rises they'd make. I totally disagree with his sentiment. Labour's plan was to appeal to pensioners and the wealthy - i.e. traditional Conservative voters. If they said they'd cut winter fuel payments and put up taxes there's no way they'd have won the election unless they had a completely different election campaign, strategy and leader.
I ordered a 1 year subscription to private eye as a direct result of last years video. Well worth it, and their coverage of the Lucy Letby case (and her likely innocence) is truly groundbreaking investigative journalism that you just don't really see much of any more.
the "guy showing up in public the day after a scandal as if nothing happened" thing, is because people in power and those circles *don't actually, seriously think what they do or say matters.* they're in it for themselves, and assume the world will keep on turning regardless and that nobody REALLY cares, because they don't REALLY care.
Ian and private eye are the only things holding politicians to account. We really need a new generation to follow his lead as there's only one ian hislop
Thankyou for this. As an Australian most media tends to ignore the southern hemisphere entirely so majority of broadcasts are about the scandals and political dramas of the northern. I feel calmer listening to you both. No drama, intelligent discourse, frequent humour, all diffusing the cutrent mongering esp abt the revolting trumpian power in the US. You're great examples of being aware, with detachment.
We are in a really precarious position in the UK. The only G7 country with what would reasonably be called a centrist leader in power. The tax burden under the Tories was already the highest percentage in UK history - and everything was still broken, half the UK's key services were overwhelmed and staff were striking, often after a decade of pay not reflecting inflation. Of course Labour were going to have to fix this issue by raising taxes to fix things. This is partially to do with a global economy that has stalled. But, there are clear problems that a series of Conservatives governments caused or exacerbated. The problem for Labour is that, as we can see from the petition and general bad sentiment towards them now, as soon as you get in government, the previous government's mistakes become your problem to fix, and quickly. So now the left are angry that we aren't spending money we don't have to do as much for the working class, the middle are still squeezed, the rich are complaining that their great-great-great-great-great grandchildren won't be able to buy yachts as their tax burden is too high, and the right are continuing to spout simplifications and lies to ensure that everyone focuses their blame on the people who didn't cause the problems, but didn't fix them all in 6 months. The result is a more competent Government (at least more than Rishi, Boris and Lettuce loser) but with even less confidence. Where do people look if they believe that both Labour and the Conservatives have failed? To the extremes. I genuinely worry that we will have a real struggle to keep Reform out of power. A threat because their ideas are not only extreme, but are based upon simplified and misguided ideals, not any form of reality or good governance.
I feel like Macron and Trudeau are definitionally centrist, although they're both looking extremely precarious. Scholz is also relatively centrist. Within a year or so, you are likely to be correct - but I don't think I agree currently. Certainly have no questions about Japan, Italy and US It is a poor reflection of the state of the world that the UK has the most functional, centrist government of the g7, certainly
@jameskilgour387 Sorry, you are completely correct. I failed to indicate that I expect Macron, Trudeau and Scholz to struggle. All of them in uneasy governments or with upcoming elections where it seems likely that they will be replaced with a more extreme government.
These problems were exacerbated by the stupid decision to hold an incredibly divisive referendum in 2016. The result of that referendum which has damaged the UK economically and politically. People still do not understand the ramifications of leaving the EU and farmers are at the forefront of that. Now not all farmers voted leave, but the majority did. They lost their subsidies which government have said they cannot afford to subsidise so they’ve lost out there and trade deals have been signed (by Tories) that can potentially undermine them. In around 10 years beef farmers in this country could face difficulty as the quotas of cheaper Australian beef imports ramp up. Currently the quotas and tariffs are time limited but that will come to an end.
The things with farmers complaining some I know personally, it’s the children who have no intention of farming and will see the land complaining about paying inheritance tax .
The thing is both are in the wrong if the farmers were not so bloody stubborn their children may want to farm the way the want then the older farmers could put the farm in trust live a further 7 years and no inheritance tax would be payable . However no the elder farmers want to farm their land they have always farmed it so can’t bear to put the land in trust. Plus really every farmer I know and I know a lot just loves to complain. All the time about everything.
I a 70yr old Brit am proud of our countries Tradition, that Mr Ian Hislop carries on from William Hogarth, and he does the UK, people proud, may I thank him for his service, And make No mistake, Teaching too take the P out of posh gits is a Service,
Excellent interview - congrats to PoliticsJOE and Ian Hislop. The journalistic integrity of Private Eye - they speak truth to ANY power, unafraid, and based on proper research - and the basic human values of Ian Hislop are both things to celebrate, in a world full of propaganda, misinformation and identity politics. Long may this continue.
In the US there was both wage growth and inflation. However, people attributed pay rises to their own grit and hard work while inflation was the government's fault
With the greatest of respect to both, if Kier Starmer had followed their advice on being honest about raising taxes, NI etc., I very much doubt it would have simply resulted in a Labour win with fewer seats. Our electorate is not that sophisticated.
Ian Hislop should be made a Lord for his many years of public service and always being on the right side of history and events. I would love to see him in the House of Lords, leading the charge in holding governments and ministers to account. Can somebody start a petition please.
@@Josheroo I agree that MBEs/ OBEs are gongs to institutionalise rebellious souls, but being in the Lords could energise and revitalise the House plus Ian, being non-partisan, could use the platform to create some real waves.
Think the interview predates Lord Prescott's passing. He and Ian discussed coming to blows on HIGNFY (although Ian would almost certainly have a kind word for him).
I believe he would. Prezza was many things but a charlatan he was not. A damn sight better than a lot of current Westminster, though that bar is so low you'd need fracking equipment to find it.
@@brianbell3836 Pint in hand next to the working man. People of colour in photos just after claims of racism. He really has a look for every occasion, but absolutely zero substance underneath.
If there is an afterlife I hope Oli and Ian will continue to get together for these annual reviews forever. Entertaining, informative and somehow very wholesome. Like father and son lol.
With inheritance tax, there are many family farms worth 5,6 even 8 million , which should not have to pay it, for the sake of efficiency. However, there are many who should, for instance, Andrew Lloyd Webber owns a 5,000-acre farm; Viscount Rothermere, controlling shareholder of the Daily Mail, owns a 4,700-acre farm; James Dyson, who backed Brexit and then moved his business to Singapore, apparently has 36,000 acres of farmland - British super-farms being a great place to stash your cash for these super rich, so should cough up when the time comes
People in small town houses pay 40% inheritance on the value over £325,000. Why is something worth millions exempt? Ahh right, it was the Tories in the 1980s who changed the rules for valuable farm land.
Private Eye has been read and enjoyed for many decades by right, left and centre. Not so many on the far right. I recall the appointment of Hislop as editor and I just sighed and quietly mourned the magazine. It was a hasty judgement - and flawed. As a bonus, the cartoons are sublime.
Ian Hislop is profound, intelligent and has integrity in spades. I consider him an international hero, he has a clear line of thought enabling him to call out the nonsense on both sides.
The farmers issue is that ministers have been sent out who were very badly briefed, indicative of the dictatorial power and arrogance of the treasury. There is worry that if estates are taxed based on land values it will mean only a few hundred estates would be taxed but if the limit is based on the entire value of a farms assets where the tractors and a combine could be worth several million before anything else, is a lot scarier.
IHT is based on Net Asset Value - similar to other business, farmers and growers lease and/or loan finance equipment. Meanwhile, the trend is using agricultural contractors who bring their own kit. And for any farms that are multi-generational family operated....they need to change their accountant if owned assets are 100% held by the oldest generation.
Ian Hislop is indeed a national treasure, and i too love every episode he and Paul do of HIGNFY good on the Beeb for put ting them on for sooo long, long may they continue to
I've been a PE reader and subscriber since sometime in the late 60's. I'm a great supporter, (but perhaps a little less so of Ian Hislop). I regularly feel better informed about scandals and things going wrong in our country (and, to a lesser extent, globally). If I was working for the Eye, I would be regularly very annoyed about all those causes which the Eye has been writing about for ages and others then pick up without due credit being given.
I appreciate why Ian has no desire to go into the bearpit of politics, but just imagine for a second what it would be like to have a man of integrity in charge.
Always been a big fan of Ian's, don't think I've ever missed an episode of hignfy, and it was great to see he's been rightly recognised for his exposure of the post office scandal 👍👋
I only ever hear about what Labour are doing by watching video after video from reform and the tories and EVERYONE else lying about what they're doing, and me having to look up what Labour are actually doing.. Where is Labour's online presence?? 🤷♂
I bought a subscription to Private Eye because of Ian's integrity and calling out people. He's an uncrowned hero. And humble.
same here
He has all the integrity of Sadiq Khan...
Ian H says it how it really really is 🤩 so refreshing
I STOPPED MINE BECAUSE HIS LACK OF ATTENTION TO DETAIL OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS. TIME HE TOOK ADVICE FROM PHYSICS AND NATURAL LAW NOT HIS DRINKS CLUB.
@@Yawnyamanexactly. Why do people fawn all over these creeps?
The man of legend, and treasurer of satire and truth, Mister Ian Hislop. 🎉
Said Jimmy Savile himself.
@@craigp4756Bright lad.
No, he's an odiously smug little creep.
@@craigp4756 Saville was a big Tory donor.
Which was why he stayed out of jail so long.
'Truth' ??????????????? lol Where was he in 2020/21?
The thing about Hislop (and his long time panel show colleague, Paul Merton) is that he is one of the vanishingly rare few people in the public domain who hasn’t turned out to be a bastard, or allowed his advantages of being popular in the public eye to corrupt him at all.
I’ve been an admirer of Hislop’s since the 1980’s, reading his rag since the days when Richard Ingrams ran the show and Ian Hislop, “stuck to him like a limpet,” as Peter Cook put it. And I’ve seen every episode of Have I Got News For You since its inception.
When he does a documentary series, or writes for a TV show, he always uses that opportunity as a way to serve the public good; either by giving us insights into current affairs and laughing at them, or showing us lesser known aspects of history that have come to define us, or resulted in the institutions we have today.
One of the very few people I know of worthy of our, “admiration,” and perhaps, “National Treasure,” status.
I'd put him up there with George Carlin and Christopher Hitchens.
Joe Rogan would've been there , but sadly seems to have sold out in order to ride the anti woke sludge.
@@colloquialsoliloquy6391 To consider Rogan to be anywhere near the calibre of Carlin, Hitchens or Hislop, is delusional. Even before his Spotify deal, he was nothing more than a hack comedian. Since the deal he has become a toxic sewer of misinformation.
I would never have had Rogan in such exalted company in the first place. After all, if you can be conned by someone you know to be an habitual liar, and then line up behind him, then there must be something fundermentally wrong with your judgement. Neither Hitchens, Carlin or Ian Hislop would ever have fallen for an odius, corrupt rapist like Trump.
His Select Committee appearances are a delight. Ian really doesn't give a tuppence unless it's worth giving a tuppence for
Wow, thanks for the info, from Czechia. The little that´s available to me suggests you´re totally right. "The Stiff Upper Lip" was a rare and enlightening delight.
Honestly this guy is so funny he should start a magazine.
get him on a tv show too. he'd be great on a politics panel quiz show
Yeah, he really ought to write some of these zingers down.
It's a credit to the Eye that he still manages to be one of the least funny things about it.
He has a magazine, it’s called Private Eye
@@ince55anthe’s a team captain WILTY, check it out
Ian Hislop is a hero and Private Eye should be essential reading for everybody.
And listening, they do a podcast called Page 94.
@@col.hertford9855 I didn't know about this, thank you.😊
Who hasn't a brain or independent thought.
@@Yawnyaman Did you mean to put a question mark at the end of that comment?
@@cliffhughes6010 No, I was just completing yours.
I look forward to these annual catchups now. Can’t wait.
To be honest, whilst I’ve thoroughly appreciated PoliticsJoe for a number of years now, Mr Hislop’s consistent contributions, despite the Eye’s reluctance in respect of the ‘content space,’ really did direct me towards this jewel of TH-cam. Can’t think of a more compelling endorsement in the current iteration of political and societal catastrophic evolutions of Britain
Same here! I used to feel the same about ‘Screenwipe’s Yearly Wipe’ … and then it stopped 🥲
@@jamesnunn7181 Absolutely. They were great. Now Charlie Brooker just produces TV that freaks me out lol.
The 2022 one involving Liz Truss literally had me in fits of laughter :D
Ian Hislop is an International Treasure, I am glad I came across him, Private Eye and HIGNFY early in life. Being American I can be confident in him not only making me laugh, but also give it to me straight on world events, and other news stories no matter how depressing it is. He doesn't play into the rich, celebrities or politicians, and that realness makes him a legend, a figure that we can all look to for the facts!
He's a *National* treasure. I really wish American's would stop claiming prolific and wonderful Brits as "International Treasures". You've got plenty of your own, let us keep the few we have.
@@BSideWasTaken Don't worry there's plenty of Ian to go around
@@BSideWasTaken I don't think they were trying to take credit for Hislop; I think they just meant that Hislop is appreciated by intelligent people the world 'round
@@BSideWasTaken "take credit for" wasn't what was happening and I think we're doing fine on the "national treasure" front if you ask me
@@BSideWasTaken I´m Czech and I was actually thinking about writing the "international treasure" thing before I found this comment 🙂 No claiming about it, just delight and respect. You´re free to call any Czech an "international treasure" if you want 🙂 You´ll be getting our orchestra conductor Jakub Hrůša for the Royal Opera soon, so there´s a candidate for you 😜
Before 1984 farmers payed inheritance tax at a higher rate than proposed, there were a lot more family farms back then than now. Since the tax loophole was introduced land prices have skyrocketed probably a huge reason why there are less family farms now than then.
Yeah, as a layman I'd have assumed given land is currently priced too highly to make actually farming viable for most farmers due to its use as a speculative resource by the massively wealthy (like housing but more so), that discouraging it consolidation in the hands of like 100 people, all while regular farmers have to sell land and work second jobs to keep the lights on would be a good thing.
But some guy from the tv with over 50 million told me it was a genocide against farmers so I guess I must be wrong.
There's also the issue of small to medium-sized farms being far less profitable today, so there's less money to set aside to pay inheritance tax.
Indeed - behind the NFU bluster about impact on multi-generational farms is the less media-friendly fact that owners of agricultural land are looking at 20% reduction in realisable asset value and potentially further reductions as investors price risk of further removal of IHT relief and take their money elsewhere.
Meanwhile, the multi-generational family farm is rather less prevalent these days than the NFU would like us all to believe...farming is now only profitable at scale and with significant investment typically requiring borrowing. The pattern in my area (South West Scotland) is smaller farms exit traditional farming but family often remain working in rural economy as contractors to the larger farms. They retain the farm house, yard, barns and some infield but sell off the rest of their land in lots suitable to investors looking for low risk investment with the benefit of IHT relief. The investors then lease it to the remaining larger scale farms at relatively low yields reflecting IHT relief and minimum maintenance costs for an asset that typically tracks inflation. At those valuations, it's not other "family-farms" buying the land.
(disclosure - I'm potential investor in agricultural land)
In real terms farmland seems to have been falling in value now for a few years so what gives? I suspect its not just iht but rather bread and butter business (e.g. other taxes, macroeconomy, SUBSIDIES - or changes to them - and so on)
Capitalism bro. Look it up!
Hundreds of comments rightly praising Mr Hislop, but let's have a bit of love for Joe's Oli as well, we need a level headed next generation to take up the reins one of these days.
Probably in Chinese, Russian and Farsi.
I've been needing an Ian Hislop 2024 review since around March.
Is that a rabbit hole/hare joke? or am I over thinking? And what's half a hole look like?
@ZERO. It's somewhere around 48% against 52%.
Jan 1st for me
Poor you
@@Fatspurios What is? A hole? A rabbit? My thinking?
Every one of these I wish was an hour longer. Can't wait for next year!
Millionaires have been openly telling people how to avoid tax and what they do to avoid tax for years, Clarkson is just surprised that a government is doing something about it for once.
And all they did was drive up prices for actual farmers who actually wanted to farm the land
Except they really arent. In fact the gov even just states its not actually an issue, because you can just use tax loopholes... In fact its arguably beneficial to the ultra wealthy.
This is the left supporting a policy of ultra wealthy accumulating land faster than it had been, its just not the gov has sped the process up, in exchange for a cut.
@@fabioq6916 All who did? The current government haven't pushed up prices for farmers (until they die).
It's Brexit that's royally shafted (living) farmers.
The issue is, the policy doesnt actually target the wealthiest., it was never supposed to. In fact its more likely going to be beneficial to them. If it was a genuine issue for the gov, the legislation would be passed to address it. What we see, is the state slitting the throats of small and mid holdings, to the benefit of the wealthiest, all for a cut.
@@tisFrancesfaultDoes it not? Seems to have riled up Farage and Clarkson, both of which happen to have £3m+ holdings deliberately to avoid inheritance tax.
As an American, I can watch Ian all day and just be fascinated. Looking forward to my first issue of Private Eye this month!
He’s a very sharp guy. I’m Irish and I’ve been watching him on ‘Have I got News for You’ for the past 30 years. It’s a great political satire show.
@@supereliptic I love HIGNFY and so happy episodes are posted on TH-cam so us Yanks can enjoy them! Ian and Paul are so great!
@@flgbanjo The new American version on CNN/HBO Max is pretty damn good too!
You won't be disappointed with your fist copy, I promise! You can also look online for their annuals to catch up on the best bits for cheap.
What I don't get with the Post Office scandal is why all those postmasters haven't been given back their money IMMEDIATELY.
I'm not talking about compensation - which they are also obviously due for their mistreatment, but I can understand that that one has to be worked out by the courts first, as to what they are due - but simply the money that the Post Office stole from them.
The Post Office said "you owe us so many thousands of pounds" or tens of thousands of pounds, which many postmasters scraped together to avoid criminal prosecution for theft.
But the actual theft here was the Post Office saying that that money was owed them. It wasn't. That's just theft.
They just stole money from these people through fraud. Claiming it was owed when it wasn't. And, more crucially, when the Post Office itself knew the system was unreliable - so, at the beginning, they were at minimum suspicious that these numbers weren't right and then, later, absolutely knew that it was incorrect, but still pressed ahead with it.
The postmasters were asked to make up the difference for money that had not, in fact, been lost. From their own pockets.
That's just theft.
We can go on to discuss additional compensation for their mistreatment. But, right now, this very instant, we can make the Post Office pay back the money it stole.
There's really no complication there. The Post Office fraudulently told these postmasters "you owe us £XXX" and many of these postmasters, from their own pockets, paid that amount to avoid criminal conviction for theft. But those stated values were wrong. So, immediately, give them back that money you stole.
After all, when the Post Office accused the postmasters of stealing the money, they were expected to pay it immediately. So now it turns out that that money was not stolen and was obtained fraudulently by the Post Office, they must return it to them IMMEDIATELY.
And if they don't, then they are guilty of theft by fraud.
Yes, additional compensation for their mistreatment is also due. But, first and foremost, as an immediate matter of urgency, GIVE THEM THEIR MONEY BACK.
In any decent society, those truly responsible (ie. the CEOs and board members) would be jailed for their part in the scandal.
Like with the Grenfell Tower atrocity which cost 72 lives, where the entire council resigned in shame and scattered like cockroaches yet NO ONE was prosecuted for criminal negligence.
And the PPI scandal where millions were stolen from taxpayers and not one person was jailed when, for instance, we know Baroness Michelle Mone stole £29,000,000 and salted it away in a neat little trust fund.
In the UK, white collar crime is usually forgiven in some sense. But you put on a mask and carry a swag-bag and - hey! - you're nicked, mate!
If this was America The Post Office and all Senior Staff at the time would be bankrupt from having been sued for every last penny. In Britain, their victims are still begging to have their own money back. A thoroughly corrupt little country.
I completely agree, but there is an obvious problem. The Post Office didn't keep accurate accounts as the law requires, so no-one knows how much they owe.
Private eye has encouraged me to start a town newspaper to restore democracy in my area.
Is your paper up and running? Respect to you for taking action. Now you have inspired me..
@lighttravelfly yes
Perhaps the best thing any journalistic body or organisation or even person can hope to do other than spread the truth
Where in the country are you?
always delighted to see oli and ian sit down for a chat, they riff off each other so well.
This should be a new yearly tradition, like the Royal Society Christmas Lectures.
it's true!
It´s called a Dual Relation in the Socionics psychological theory. Totally agree.
Two nice, honest, decent , funny people. Chatting. music to peoples ears I hope. Refreshing at the moment. Great listen. Proud to be British and able to take the piss out of ourselves.
9:14 'she was briefly in charge of something. Aren't they all?" might be the best summary of British politics over the past decade I've heard...
I love Ian Hislop and Private Eye. 🎉❤
An annual treat - I've been watching Ian since I was a boy. A humane, reasonable and cheerful voice in a howling and furious media landscape. Thanks JOE and thanks Mr. Hislop.
I love these, please keep doing them. It's a breath of fresh air.
Ian Hislop is a legend. Thanks for such a great interview
Ian is an outstanding example of a human being. Oli, a great interviewer and his hair cut is bloody perfect.
Love Ian and Private Eye - I live overseas and it’s the only thing I get posted on a regular basis. Always look forward to the annual wrap up.
I don't think Labour would have won if they said they would raise taxes. You know that the right-wing papers would have had a field day with it - 'average British home to pay £2000 more in income tax under Labour', and most people won't read the details (if indeed the Mail would publish them). A project fear would have been revived and I'm not convinced Labour can do enough to counter-act it. Especially since so many people bang on about the tax burden (although it's still less than comparable countries in Europe - and a lot less than the Nordic countries which enjoy much better public services).
Or they could've just said theyll do a wealth tax and followed through on it. But that doesn't take into account they were backed by some very rich and influential people!
There was a general expectation that that would be the case. But in a way classic of modern politics, they did its budget in a manner utterly bereft of imagination, both in collection and spending.
@@tisFrancesfault It won’t be the only budget, recently it was recalled that it was the budget in 2000 that turned the taps on for spending particularly the NHS.
Despite the much more stable economy they inherited and calmer world situation then, they were very cautious for the first two years.
This. I think it's very easy to say 'they would have got in anyway' after they've already got in.
If there's anything the past decade has shown itself that rampant populism is ready, really hard to defeat in elections. If one side is allowed to lie through their teeth and get away with it (in the eyes of voters, not the media), but the other side isn't, it's an uphill struggle before you've started. That's even before you've thrown in all the nasty fuelling of hate through moral panics that get people so riled up.
I agree with @meeds7473 Labour probably wouldn't have won if they said they'd raise taxes.
Also in the video around 17:40 the interviewer gives a long list starting with "if they said they'd reduce winter fuel payments..." and ended up saying Labour would have won the election with a reduced majority if they were honest with the electorate about the cuts and tax rises they'd make. I totally disagree with his sentiment. Labour's plan was to appeal to pensioners and the wealthy - i.e. traditional Conservative voters. If they said they'd cut winter fuel payments and put up taxes there's no way they'd have won the election unless they had a completely different election campaign, strategy and leader.
I ordered a 1 year subscription to private eye as a direct result of last years video. Well worth it, and their coverage of the Lucy Letby case (and her likely innocence) is truly groundbreaking investigative journalism that you just don't really see much of any more.
Politics Joe. Fab you’re interviewing Ian H. Icon of satire but more importantly icon of telling it how it really is ❤. Thanks Joe
the "guy showing up in public the day after a scandal as if nothing happened" thing, is because people in power and those circles *don't actually, seriously think what they do or say matters.* they're in it for themselves, and assume the world will keep on turning regardless and that nobody REALLY cares, because they don't REALLY care.
I'm old enough to remember when people were concerned that he was too young to be the new editor of Private Eye.
Ian and private eye are the only things holding politicians to account. We really need a new generation to follow his lead as there's only one ian hislop
As someone who has at some point used the Royal Mail, I apologise for my involvement and complicity in the Horizon scandal.
Thankyou for this. As an Australian most media tends to ignore the southern hemisphere entirely so majority of broadcasts are about the scandals and political dramas of the northern.
I feel calmer listening to you both. No drama, intelligent discourse, frequent humour, all diffusing the cutrent mongering esp abt the revolting trumpian power in the US. You're great examples of being aware, with detachment.
We are in a really precarious position in the UK. The only G7 country with what would reasonably be called a centrist leader in power.
The tax burden under the Tories was already the highest percentage in UK history - and everything was still broken, half the UK's key services were overwhelmed and staff were striking, often after a decade of pay not reflecting inflation. Of course Labour were going to have to fix this issue by raising taxes to fix things. This is partially to do with a global economy that has stalled. But, there are clear problems that a series of Conservatives governments caused or exacerbated.
The problem for Labour is that, as we can see from the petition and general bad sentiment towards them now, as soon as you get in government, the previous government's mistakes become your problem to fix, and quickly. So now the left are angry that we aren't spending money we don't have to do as much for the working class, the middle are still squeezed, the rich are complaining that their great-great-great-great-great grandchildren won't be able to buy yachts as their tax burden is too high, and the right are continuing to spout simplifications and lies to ensure that everyone focuses their blame on the people who didn't cause the problems, but didn't fix them all in 6 months. The result is a more competent Government (at least more than Rishi, Boris and Lettuce loser) but with even less confidence.
Where do people look if they believe that both Labour and the Conservatives have failed? To the extremes. I genuinely worry that we will have a real struggle to keep Reform out of power. A threat because their ideas are not only extreme, but are based upon simplified and misguided ideals, not any form of reality or good governance.
I feel like Macron and Trudeau are definitionally centrist, although they're both looking extremely precarious. Scholz is also relatively centrist. Within a year or so, you are likely to be correct - but I don't think I agree currently. Certainly have no questions about Japan, Italy and US
It is a poor reflection of the state of the world that the UK has the most functional, centrist government of the g7, certainly
@jameskilgour387 Sorry, you are completely correct. I failed to indicate that I expect Macron, Trudeau and Scholz to struggle. All of them in uneasy governments or with upcoming elections where it seems likely that they will be replaced with a more extreme government.
@@jakemiddleton5266 absolutely, Starmer's government very easily could be the only sane government in the g7 by the end of its first term.
These problems were exacerbated by the stupid decision to hold an incredibly divisive referendum in 2016. The result of that referendum which has damaged the UK economically and politically. People still do not understand the ramifications of leaving the EU and farmers are at the forefront of that. Now not all farmers voted leave, but the majority did. They lost their subsidies which government have said they cannot afford to subsidise so they’ve lost out there and trade deals have been signed (by Tories) that can potentially undermine them. In around 10 years beef farmers in this country could face difficulty as the quotas of cheaper Australian beef imports ramp up. Currently the quotas and tariffs are time limited but that will come to an end.
The current Government is not centrist. It is Euro Maoist.
Always grat to hear from Ian Hislop
The things with farmers complaining some I know personally, it’s the children who have no intention of farming and will see the land complaining about paying inheritance tax .
The thing is both are in the wrong if the farmers were not so bloody stubborn their children may want to farm the way the want then the older farmers could put the farm in trust live a further 7 years and no inheritance tax would be payable . However no the elder farmers want to farm their land they have always farmed it so can’t bear to put the land in trust.
Plus really every farmer I know and I know a lot just loves to complain. All the time about everything.
That's the case with my family.. My uncle is complaining about his kids having to pay the tax but my cousins will sell the land to whoever wants it.
Oli is a very strong interviewer, really knows his stuff and puts the guest at ease whoever they are. Good lad
Two great guys having a great natter. Thank you!
So hopeful that this is an ongoing reoccurring thing because I still miss Screenwipe and Frankie Boyles New World Order so much. Thank you for this. 🎉
Finally I hear someone else say they miss Brooker and Boyle at the end of the year, was truly brilliant stuff, as is Ian of course
Legislate, Regulate and have public criminal enquiries for future Government/Corporate malfeasance
Love to you all always
God bless you all always
I a 70yr old Brit am proud of our countries Tradition, that Mr Ian Hislop carries on from William Hogarth, and he does the UK, people proud, may I thank him for his service, And make No mistake, Teaching too take the P out of posh gits is a Service,
Excellent interview - congrats to PoliticsJOE and Ian Hislop. The journalistic integrity of Private Eye - they speak truth to ANY power, unafraid, and based on proper research - and the basic human values of Ian Hislop are both things to celebrate, in a world full of propaganda, misinformation and identity politics. Long may this continue.
Thanks , brilliant as usual balanced and sane analysis .👏👏
I look forward to this every year.
Thanks folks
In the US there was both wage growth and inflation. However, people attributed pay rises to their own grit and hard work while inflation was the government's fault
With the greatest of respect to both, if Kier Starmer had followed their advice on being honest about raising taxes, NI etc., I very much doubt it would have simply resulted in a Labour win with fewer seats. Our electorate is not that sophisticated.
National Treasure Ian Hislop!
Politics Joe and the annual Ian Hislop interview is my new ritual for closing the year. I won’t call Hislop a national treasure, but he is. 🙂👍🏻🎄
When Trump refers to the weave he means his hair.
1:07 “I’m approaching this conversation as a weave…”
Aubrey: “Do you not know that in the service, you must choose the lesser of two weavils.”
Ian Hislop should be made a Lord for his many years of public service and always being on the right side of history and events. I would love to see him in the House of Lords, leading the charge in holding governments and ministers to account. Can somebody start a petition please.
Highly expect he would decline, he has refused gongs on multiple occasions I believe.
@@Josheroo I agree that MBEs/ OBEs are gongs to institutionalise rebellious souls, but being in the Lords could energise and revitalise the House plus Ian, being non-partisan, could use the platform to create some real waves.
No way. Three words of condemnation: Lord Jeffrey Archer. Served time for perjury - lying under oath - and kept the title. That says it all.
That would put a fox in the hen house
Definitely not, to honest
Never stop, Hislop 👁️
Fifty minutes of essential viewing for...well...everyone really. Good job.
I come back every year for this..and as always it was a blast! :)
Babe, wake up, Hislop's yearly review is up
Just Oli and Ian proving time and again to be a 10/10 double act 👏
How is nobody commenting on Oli's jacket? If Mondrian did tartan...I like it.
Anyone know where they can be purchased?
American citizen here. I wish the USA had an Ian!
Jimmy Kimmell? That Oliver chap?
@@brianbell3836 Nope
@@janeblack7880 They're satirists, Jane
"it was a difficult year for commenting on public events" 43:30. Hislop is a master of that classic British Understatement
Really?
The Gaza headline was brilliant !
Think the interview predates Lord Prescott's passing. He and Ian discussed coming to blows on HIGNFY (although Ian would almost certainly have a kind word for him).
I believe he would. Prezza was many things but a charlatan he was not. A damn sight better than a lot of current Westminster, though that bar is so low you'd need fracking equipment to find it.
@@badgerbane What you saw was what you got
Been looking forward to this!
Love seeing these interviews , they have a real rapport which is fun to watch
Loud when needed.
And great speaker. Ho, hum, um and err are perfect moments for wilful pause.
Love the annual Hislop recap!
2 of my favourite people together. Merry Christmas
One day, someone in television will see the light and give Mr Hislop exposure to the main stream, perhaps on a satirical panel game.
Farmers have been mugged off with brexit yet still following the likes of farage deeper into the rabbit hole.
Oddly, no, he went down to London in his countryside cosplay and was largely snubbed - they wouldn't let him do a speech there
@@BrewVivo In his green wellies! My God! He's a f___ing Merchant Banker!
@@brianbell3836
Pint in hand next to the working man. People of colour in photos just after claims of racism.
He really has a look for every occasion, but absolutely zero substance underneath.
If there is an afterlife I hope Oli and Ian will continue to get together for these annual reviews forever. Entertaining, informative and somehow very wholesome. Like father and son lol.
I really enjoyed this.
These interviews get better every year.
Ian Hislop O.G.
Why you don’t do, in tandem, a review with Paul Merton will forever baffle me
Love these videos with Mr Hislop!
Top content, from both of you, long may you keep this up❤❤
I've a lot of respect for Ian H.
Good piece of trolling stating something so banal on the front page.
Thank you, I very much appreciate these and of the year roundups!
I think it was Willie Rushton whilst at the Eye who said...'We have to get Labour in, then we can bash them'
Its a loveable scamp and his doting uncle, making sure he stays true. 😊 Love these
Nice to see a piano in the private eye offices
It's a carefully disguised drinks cabinet...
With inheritance tax, there are many family farms worth 5,6 even 8 million , which should not have to pay it, for the sake of efficiency.
However, there are many who should, for instance, Andrew Lloyd Webber owns a 5,000-acre farm; Viscount Rothermere, controlling shareholder of the Daily Mail, owns a 4,700-acre farm; James Dyson, who backed Brexit and then moved his business to Singapore, apparently has 36,000 acres of farmland - British super-farms being a great place to stash your cash for these super rich, so should cough up when the time comes
And the Royals...
People in small town houses pay 40% inheritance on the value over £325,000. Why is something worth millions exempt? Ahh right, it was the Tories in the 1980s who changed the rules for valuable farm land.
@@muppet3901 Quite
Private Eye has been read and enjoyed for many decades by right, left and centre. Not so many on the far right.
I recall the appointment of Hislop as editor and I just sighed and quietly mourned the magazine.
It was a hasty judgement - and flawed.
As a bonus, the cartoons are sublime.
25:43 Trump/Harris is 49.9% / 48.4%. Much closer than the 'overwhelming will of the people' 52/48 Brexit result
I love these end of year reviews
It would be the fulfilment of my life's dream to sit down and have a conversation with Ian Hislop.
It's always lovely to watch Ian and Oli bro down for an hour or so.
I do see Ian hislop as a national treasure. I know what I want for Xmas now- annual private eye!
Ian Hislop is profound, intelligent and has integrity in spades. I consider him an international hero, he has a clear line of thought enabling him to call out the nonsense on both sides.
The farmers issue is that ministers have been sent out who were very badly briefed, indicative of the dictatorial power and arrogance of the treasury. There is worry that if estates are taxed based on land values it will mean only a few hundred estates would be taxed but if the limit is based on the entire value of a farms assets where the tractors and a combine could be worth several million before anything else, is a lot scarier.
IHT is based on Net Asset Value - similar to other business, farmers and growers lease and/or loan finance equipment. Meanwhile, the trend is using agricultural contractors who bring their own kit.
And for any farms that are multi-generational family operated....they need to change their accountant if owned assets are 100% held by the oldest generation.
Ian Hislop is indeed a national treasure, and i too love every episode he and Paul do of HIGNFY good on the Beeb for put ting them on for sooo long, long may they continue to
I adore Ian. How many erudite, moral & educated public figures are there out there? He's one in 10million❤
Alas smug Establishment creepy are a good deal more common than that and he is unambiguously one such.
Love Ian, I could listen to him talk for hours
I like this PoliticsJoe - Private Eye tradition and look forward to the next one.
Ian Hislop... national treasure. He wouldn't accept a honour.... thank goodness for his integrity
good reminder to order my Private Eye annual
New bishop: Richard Coles! He's funny and warm hearted! ❤
I've been a PE reader and subscriber since sometime in the late 60's. I'm a great supporter, (but perhaps a little less so of Ian Hislop). I regularly feel better informed about scandals and things going wrong in our country (and, to a lesser extent, globally). If I was working for the Eye, I would be regularly very annoyed about all those causes which the Eye has been writing about for ages and others then pick up without due credit being given.
I appreciate why Ian has no desire to go into the bearpit of politics, but just imagine for a second what it would be like to have a man of integrity in charge.
It's always a pleasure to listen to Hislop.
Always been a big fan of Ian's, don't think I've ever missed an episode of hignfy, and it was great to see he's been rightly recognised for his exposure of the post office scandal 👍👋
I love HislopWrapped
I only ever hear about what Labour are doing by watching video after video from reform and the tories and EVERYONE else lying about what they're doing, and me having to look up what Labour are actually doing.. Where is Labour's online presence?? 🤷♂