The old Colts had to be hand fitted because the parts were roughly machined. The modern CNC parts are checked by the machine itself, and it’s unlikely that the operator would input incorrect dimensions. I own 3 new Pythons, and they’re 100% perfect…except for the rear sights. The Wilson Combat sights are perfect.
The stock rear sights are loose aren’t they? Mine were very loose on my new python. My crowning also looked terrible. I purchased the first week of release so mine was flawed right out of the box.
pretty sure that is not entirely correct. Take a new(ish) Ruger revolver... rough as a cob. It is not just dimensions. It is how the parts mate. That being said... any quality revolver will be smoother after 5k rounds are put through it. Back in the day we would endlessly dry fire new guns. The machines these days are doing a better job for sure but not.... quite... like skilled gunsmiths. I have an old PPC competition gun based on an old model 10 smith with a custom barrel and a trigger stop and action job and crane lockup. it is as smooth as anything ever.
This has got to be the first boomer ever in the history of the Internet to make a comment where he doesn't put his wife on a pedestal or paints her as a drill instructor he has to walk on eggshells around. Admits to never listening to her, and when he finally does listen to her, it's because she made a good point that benefited his happiness. Good for him. 👍🏻
I got a Colt Python 4.25 inch in 2022. I try to get to the range once a week. The Python has been very reliable. The trigger pull is even smoother now..
Back in around 1984 or '85 I was in a shop that had a sale going on, had a 38 Diamondback for $289 , almost bought it, but then I saw a S&W Model 27 in a presentation box for $210 . Being a low ranking soldier not making much money, I went with the 27. Haven't regretted it yet, but whenever I see a Diamondback , 😢..... Wish I could have bought them both! Thanks for the revolver videos!
It has a horrible single action trigger unsuitable for target shooting. It also has a double action trigger that is super long, with a super long reset, that is unsuitable for even relatively rapid fire. It's also only 6 shots.
I think some advantages of the new Colt Python are, 1- newly designed/ engineered and less internal parts (less friction) for trigger pull and less chance for timing issues developing. 2- parts cut to exact tolerances via CNC machines (smooth exacting fit). 3 - beefed up top strap by 30% (strengthened frame). 4- easily removable front sight.
The modern CNC processes are far more repeatable than any manual machinist / bench assembler could ever be. There is zero need for any hand fitting anymore. The hand fitting was required because they couldn’t hold the tolerances coming off the manual machines.
Really? Think about that. They are not changing the dimensions when they handfit a revolver. What they are doing is smoothing the mating surfaces. Show me a mirror like finish gotten with a CNC machine. Someday maybe but we are not there yet. I think what you are saying is that what the machine puts out is 'good enough' and I would agree but let me put it this way... after you shoot a new revolver a few thousand times? It will be..... smoother. Trigger pulls will be lighter and more reliable. If things were perfect to begin with that would not happen. Sorta like what my dad said about haircuts. The differnce between a good haircut and a bad one is..... Two weeks.
@@silverstacker8282 Ok... you for sure know more about modern machining tech than I do but. If I am wrong and you are correct... can you explain how guns smooth up with use? Have you looked at the surfaces after say 5k rounds? Why is there a polished look that was not there before... one could almost say high and low spots? If you are saying 'good enough for the girls I go out with' then I would agree.. Without something like a trigger scale and without tearing into the gun? no one would know. I am shocked myself when what I think is a 3lb pull turns out to be something like 5 on a scale. Also... why polish the outside of a gun (or anything) if electrical discharge can make a mirror finish? Not saying you are wrong... just saying the machines have not quite taken over yet.. Skynet still has some glitches. Modern furniture vs old? The new stuff looks just as good mostly but may end up in the dump in 20 years. Old cars vs new (hot rods in my case) ? I am kinda thinking I can live without power mirrors or a ghost that puts my E brake on or lights and buzzers that tell me how to behave... or even power windows for that matter.. Just replaced the window regulators in my 74 C10 pickup.. they wore out after 50 years... But? I did convert the truck to 2010 LS drivetrain with..... computer! LOl Seat belts are optional and I rarely use em.
@@doranmaxwell1755 even with a stoned surface there will still be a wear pattern after 5,000 pulls. The stoning isn’t necessary anymore. The EDM process produces a more accurate engagement without the hand work. All the angles are perfectly in place. And there’s no risk of over doing it or damaging the engagement from stoning. Triggers that are EDM cut are far more consistent for far longer. Because the contact points and angles are perfect. The outside finish of a gun will always need to be blasted / polished to remove the tool marks. That will never change. But the internals are produced better than they ever have been.
@@silverstacker8282 I am sure you are correct on the outside surface thing. But.... why is it true for the outside that it can't be done but not true for the inside. When I talk wear patterns I am saying the wear pattern changes as the parts are mated in a normal fashion. And.... oddly enough? They work better after they have worn in. Stoning an action should remove almost no metal You are not trying to get rid of every scratch or pit. You are trying to get more of both surfaces to mate. If you have a high spot say on one surface and you allow em to mate through friction it will work but that high spot will create a low spot on the other part which will create high spots etc etc. Won't matter a whit if the angles are perfect. What matters is that a very small area is taking all the friction. The more surface area you can get to mate and.... quickly... the better. If machining could be perfected as you say then there would never be a ring around the cyl stops. Eventually the bolt high spots wear enough that they no longer ring the cyl... if bad enough they probly never will tho. And... there is wear happening on the cyl. which is mostly always highly polished and needs no wear. Yet.... there you have it. And... you actually can polish the bolt and completely or almost completely stop that 'ring around the cylinder' thing. Plus... it normally means that the bolt now engages the notch better.
IMO a $990 686 has a MIM hammer and trigger, unworkable and ugly finish, rubber grips, Hillary hole and a stacking coil spring. These are $1400 all day. $400-500 on top of a 686 is inconsequential for the fit, finish and superb lockup on these. This gun would be perfectly fine in a duty holster or OWB if you actually wanted to, there's nothing stopping you from doing it. I have Harrison fiber optic sights and a hogue custom wood grip on my 4.25" and I love every part of it, no malfunctions, no blemishes. Best part is it's not an investment and I don't care if it slides around on the table. Korths are not handfitted, they are made literally the exact same way as new pythons and manurhins, on five axis CNC machines
Handfitting arguments are so lame bro honestly, I don't know what you're even arguing. Every part on the new pythons and cobras are individually inspected, all the MIM parts have real inspection stamps that can be referenced back to a workstation in the factory
I own a number of original Pythons and several new Pythons in each of the barrel lengths. The new Pythons are excellent except for the rear sight. WC makes a nice click adjustable replacement which is better than the original's Elliason rear sight. Recently picked up a 4.25" Davidson's engraved model. The Colt revolver line is really one of the best values in the market today. Colts don't have sleeved barrels, alloy frames, frame key locks or any other non desirable feature.
Love the new Colt revolvers and really would like to get a Python and a Anaconda in my collection. I have a 2" King Cobra and Cobra in my EDC rotation. FYI: the Colt clockwise rotation vs. Smith counter-clockwise is a company tradition in both instances.
Bought the 4.25" yesterday, put a few cylinders through it. Supplants my factory engraved nickel SAA as my favorite. Had a 1st generation in the 70's and this peice lives up to expectations.
I paid waaaay over MSRP when I bought mine during the pandemic 😢. I feel a little sick when I see how much the prices went down but whatever. I feel like I’ve had good luck with it so far.
Very nice video. Good honest points presented in a non bias manner. Thank You for taking the time to present your thoughts so that the rest of us can learn and make informed decisions.
I have a colt python with the 4.25 inch barrel like the one in this video. I had to send it back twice to Colt. The first time with timing issues. The second time the 357 cartridges wouldn't eject out of the cylinder after it was fired..the cartridges were jammed in there so tight it took a half hour to dig them out. Colt reemed out all 6 cylinders and now it works fine.
Yep old Colt parts back in the day were put together with rough machined parts by expert gunsmiths. Today they are fitted with precise parts that can’t be duplicated by human hands
I tell you what! I have all the new sizes Gen - 2 pythons and Anacondas . But my dream revolver hands down is a korth. Good video. Also $1500 bucks for a Gen-2 Python is pennies on the dollar in todays age. Modern Milling processes have caught up to hand precision fitting.
This is a interesting comparison. I too felt that the price was too high, especially since my LGS has several in stock. But, tell us about the holster you have!
The price is not bad considering over 90% of the Python is hammer forged steel and a solid lug, one piece barrel. If you want to see a real screw job, look nor further than the Ruger Super GP 100 in 357 Magnum. Cast frame, absolutely no hammer forged at all, MIM internals and a "tube in shroud" two piece barrel for an MSRP of $1859. That is a fucking rip off and laughable price. Bill Ruger is screaming from his grave.
Hey Bro, I just stumbled on your channel. Love the old Colt's. I bought the "New" Python 6" when it came out. I paid north of $2,300 and is one of the first 3000 produced by Colt in 2019. LOVE IT. Is it better than my 71 Royal Blue 4" Python? Naw! Fun Video brother.
thanks! and very nice Python! Stay tuned as there is a heavy request for me to start showing my vintage Pythons...sooooo next vid we'll start looking at the vintage ones.
New pythons are made with 410 steel. Yoke geometry is thicker. Dimensionally it’s slightly different than the old python by like microns. Long story short. The new one is better and more durable. Anyone that says it isn’t. A. Is not an engineer B. They have to find approval elsewhere C. Most likely divorced
I have a 2022 Anaconda. I can say that it is mechanically miles ahead of the first generation Anacondas. The finished however is straight out of the tumbler. Very blurry in comparison to the revolvers Colt produced with skilled polishers on the line. I also agree with you on the rear sight. For the money I’m disappointed that I have to invest another 100 bucks in a rear site on a gun as expensive as the Anaconda to make it shootable.
I totally disagree with your opinion on cnc vs hand fitted . The reason Pythons were hand fitted is the level machining was not as precise as cnc machining is today . Cnc machining is very precise so hand fitting is not required . I am a retired Toolmaker with 45 years in the trades so l know a little about the subject . Of course thats my opinion and some will disagree . Thanks for your review on the Python . One of the most beautiful revolvers ever 👍✌️🇺🇲
I just shot my new Colt Python this weekend and it was great. Only thing I was expecting the .38 Special rounds to have a little less recoil, but to be fair I never shot .38’s before. Overall I was pretty satisfied. I have no problem with the serrated trigger or how the cylinder pops out and rotated. I have a Ruger .44mag and I like both guns but for different reasons.
I have this same one and have several S&W’s as well. The only thing that bothers me is the crappy rear sight. I’ll modify it with the Harrison bits. I will say it’s nice to see that there are only 3 mim parts. The hammer and trigger are a lot nicer than modern Smiths.
You are correct about the sights, but like yourself, I still have not changed them ! First thing I "HAD TO CHANGE" was those horrible grips !! First off, they are nothing more than cheap plywood, and not really fancy wood at that ! The upper back corners are kind of square shaped, and my thumb was beaten purple on the first 200 rounds of .357. They came off immediately, and I went to the original "Colt" Pachmayr finger groove Grippers, with the Colt medallion. The original grips will be much modified before they ever go back on the gun. And as a Grip Maker for some 30 years, I may look around for some "special " block of wood and make a new set for it ! The new Python has a very smooth D.A. pull, but compared even to my GP 100's it is way too heavy, and will most likely need a new set of Wilson springs soon. I'm also in the market for a set of the Original old Python grip panels. You have had your Python for a while, but I have only had mine for a couple months, and have not been able to put the time and energy into the improvements I feel are necessary, in order for me to fall back in love with the Python again as I was back in the 1960's !! Mine is the 4.25" Stainless Python! Sadly, . . . . now I need a new 6" blued Python too !!!!!!
I think the Colt cylinders are rotating the right way. The clockwise rotation pushes the crane into the frame. The counter clockwise cylinder rotation of S&W is pushing the cylinder out of the frame. That is the reason why S&W has to put 2 detent on the frame to keep the cylinder in the frame.
Great video, thanks! I really want one because I think they are the best looking revolvers available. But I think of how much customization I could add to a stock 686 for the price difference (roughly $500). Still on the fence.
The korth is just a beautiful revolver don't understand the hate ,unfortunately alot of the bespoke trades are dieing out ,manufacturers these days want quick easy money.
From my research the new Colts are more robust and more finely tuned than the older models. I bought a 4.25” stainless Anaconda, and it is simply beautiful. 👍
For someone who doesn't care about what people think u sure love to address them and mimic them.....broski WHO CARES what people say or think!! U make great videos and u own fantastic pistols....jst keep doing ur thing and ignore the morons.....beautiful revolver by the way! Absolutely gorgeous.
The guys over at Wilson Combat Ken, Bill and Massad have come to really appreciate the Python as well as the Beretta 92. I'm really enjoying my 4.25 Python but I enjoy the S&W R8 just as much too. 👍 You should get another R8 again by the way just saying later
Is that the model TRR8 or the M&P R8 that you have? I'm actually trying to decide between the R8 and the 4.25 Python. If you had to choose one to be the better of the 2 which would u pick?
@DragonzPlay I have the R8 and if I had to choose between the two? That's a really hard decision for me cause they compliment each other so well. One of them is the ultimate home defense/duty revolver and the other is the ultimate beauty queen and I couldn't imagine my safe without either one but it would probably be the Python.
@DragonzPlay The Python is definitely more accurate but the R8 is still very accurate as well. The Python needs the Wilson Combat rear sights however if you're planning on shooting it cause the sights it comes with really suck. I put a square notch combat rear sight on the R8, much better than the one's it comes with works very well. Good luck
Aside from an "assembler" vs. an expert "pistolsmith" putting the gun together. How would you compare that "pistolsmith" a human with the exact tolerances/specs of parts, compared with manufactured and executed parts from a modern CNC machine?? Which is more precise??
Why? $2500 doesn't even buy you a nice one. A vintage python is a safe queen and bragging rights gun and nothing else, not even a suitable target gun. Are you really gonna blast through 100 Magnums in an afternoon with your buddies out of a vintage investment grade python?
😂The old Pythons were very picky with ammo and sensitive all around with hi pressure loads. The new ones are by far superior to the old ones, people need to get out of their shell and realize this.
Machine shops have inspection departments and everything. The people assembling don't have to know anything else other than assembly. If the machine shop is operating properly, hand fitting isn't really necessary. I've worked in a machine shop and have witnessed the process. In some cases, we see sloppy tolerances and reject those parts.(or in some cases, hand fitting can be done) CNC doesn't = low standards. Its just more hands free. Its up to the programmers and the machinist/operators as well as inspection to ensure they aren't producing scrap parts or low quality final product. Oh and trust me, they care about what they are producing. If they wanna keep their job, they won't crank out garbage
Wow, what a beautiful well made gun. For better than your Smith's,but you should sell it. It's easy to hear how jealous you are for your another guns. Colt is the best and more than worth it money they ask. The sight is low quality but it work and is almost always replaced anyway. Iv own several snake guns and they are awesome and worth more than most other revolvers.
Love the 357 Python. After owning several Pythons from the late 70s and early 80s i must say that the new Python outperforms my nearly 50 year old Pythons. The vintage Pythons were so finicky depending on ammo used. These newer ones just feel more ready to do business. Shame Colt puts a cheap useless rear sight on a $1500 revolver.
I have never seen a Korth in the wild. Before the new Pythons came out, I rarely saw them except for gun shows with obscene prices. Never spend more than MSRP for anything period. But, the Colts have an incredibly dependable following, and I have never lost money on a premium Colt. That explains the prices you see. That may not be of interest to some, but it is to me. The Python set the tone for all revolvers to compare to. It’s just reality. The sights, stocks, trigger, serrations, hammer, etc. are all personal taste; nothing more. CNC is desirable to me. It’s called progress. Hand fitting is of no interest to me whatsoever. In fact, it’s detrimental in day to day applications, repairing, replacing, or changing parts. My family had many police officers, prison guards, etc., and the Python was what most of them wanted at that time. They mainly carried Smiths or Smolts however, because Pythons have never been cheap, nor should they ever be. Thanks for taking the time to make the video.
Guns are just tools...the only thing that matters is that they go bang every time. Ergos and looks are secondary to that, and price range is determined by what u can afford. TRAINING is the key to making the gun useful no matter what brand you buy. I find it hilarious, as a competition shooter and retired Army vet, that dudes who probably suck at shooting have such strong opinions of the handguns they choose.
If I was going to part with a ton of cash for a vintage revolver, it would have to be a S&W Pre-model 27 3.5 inch. I looked at one a few years ago at a gun show and the guy was asking $1400ish. I could kick myself for not buying it then, because it would probably fetch 2-3k now. At the same time, it seemed like it didn't lock up quite as tight as I would have wanted. I sort of hate when guns get that "collectable" status. 😑🙄
I'm not sure it's fair to compare the Colt Python to a Korth revolver. The Korth costs at least triple the price of the Python, while the Python costs only thirty or so percent more than a Smith and Wesson. I think it's a more fair comparison to ask if the better finish, recessed crown, forged one-piece screwed-in barrel, minimal use of MIM parts, smooth trigger action, uniqueness, etc., is worth paying the extra premium over the S&W. It was for me.
Pjicing for the Python/Anassconda IS a tad high for any production revolver....AGREED. Especialy when you can get a good S&W for half the cost e.g 686. I mean what are we really paying for buyig iether the Python or Colt? The "ribbing " :)) Very hard to justify....even if you can afford the asking price e.g. in Canada they range from $2200-2800 CAD :P Ummm....For what will be a range gun??
Be honest with yourself. You want the Python because it’s absolutely beautiful. If you were looking for an everyday working man’s.357 that’s going to get scratched and dirty you’d buy a GP100.
3,800 for the entry level Korth vs 1,500 for the Python. Guess it comes down to how much you are able to spend on a range gun. Performance center Smith's and now 1,200 and to me they still don't have as good of a double action trigger as the new Python. Never held a Korth for that kind of money it must be heavenly.
very nice! that's the only Python I do not own. I would love a vintage 3" but not practical LOL. The 2nd gen version makes more sense. Enjoy it!!! And yes get a Wilson Combat rear sight for it as well as maybe a different front sight.
Still waiting on my Colt Python, because imho, its still the most beautiful „classic“ revolver. Still cant believe you guys only pay about 1500$, here in Switzerland it cost 2570CHF which equivalents to 2810$.
Easy to shim the rear sight's dovetail slot with dental floss to make it as tight and unmovable as you wish. Don't throw the baby out with the bath water it's not rocket science to shim a simple dovetail slot. The rear sight is just fine with a simple zero cost tweak.
Think about this.....The 2020 Colt Python is all cold hammer forged frame and parts, except for 4 non-stress parts and has a solid one-piece barrel for $1499. Meanwhile, the Ruger Super GP100 357 has a cast frame, a tube and shroud 2 piece barrel, and all MIM internals with no hammered forge parts and a much worse factory trigger than the Colt for a price of $1859. Tell me again who is fucking their customers more, Colt or Ruger?!?!?
I take it your broke or new to the gun world. $1500 is nothing bro. Hell I spend over 3 grand on a 3" and 6" last year. And put a Python next to a out of the box 686, GP100 or Taurus 66 and the differances are light years. The attention to detail is through the roof, the guns a work of art while the others you can spot the flaws a mile away especially a Taurus and next the Ruger and then the Smith.
The first-generation Python cost as much as that Korth that you keep showing these days, and was hand fitted as well. When your Korth is shot a lot and needs a tune-up, it's the same as a first-generation Python doctor bill. The only difference is that Colt don't have many if any of the craftsmen that they used to have.
"It's just a fun revolver. That's all it is to me." Yep - I have one and totally agree. This is a recreational revolver intended to bust bullseyes at the range and to brag about to your friends. They may not say say it, but they all want one too. Eye-popping gorgeous; wonderfully accurate; glorious double action trigger; single action trigger heavier than ideal due to some blue state safety regs, but the gun is so massive that it simply soaks that up. If you miss, it wasn't the gun's fault. Put a set of Hogue coco bolo wood grips on it and you will get wood every time you look at it. Pricey? Yes, but not way over what GP-100s and 686s are going for these days. Buy one - you will be happy you did.
I also hate the serrations on the trigger face also. too bad its not smooth like my smith and wesson revolvers. After a while those serrations will make shooting the python unpleasant
I bought a Smith and Wesson 686 performance center and first time I pulled the trigger it catastrophically failed. Won’t go into detail, however they had it 3 months and I lost my taste for em. ALL guns ALL guns, have issues that don’t fit every individual even Korth and I’d never buy one for that money. Doesn’t interest me.
Get to know your dealer. he will let you use some tools like feeler and pin gauges. Pythons kinda sorta will go out of time but it takes 10k rounds of sorta abusive fast DA work... even then... What goes wrong? the hand. A reproduction hand it like $30. if... you add a trigger stop? you will never wear out a Python... Or any revolver for that matter. Fast DA work really beats up a revolver. Centrifugal force and all that. the Colt just shows up first cause it is more 'precise' and depends more on the lockup of the hand/cyl stop (I am simplifying) Single action or 'slow' DA work and? slow being about a sec or so between shots.. and you will never wear out a Python.. or a smith... If you simply must have super fast DA every time?? get a trigger stop.
I seems to be that people that can’t afford the python are just looking for an excuse to buy a cheaper revolver and are willing to do whatever it takes to find non existing issues with it.
Well, slightly disagree with this guy. The reason Cole pythons are no longer hand fitted is because the machining is so good now they don’t have to hand fit so the argument about hand fitting is not quite correct. The pieces fit better off the production line than they ever did from 1955 to 2002.
Too many issues for a $1,500 revolver. I'll pass and stick with Ruger SP101 GP100 and even my Taurus tracker. I had a python back in 1982 and traded it off for a Smith & Wesson Model 29.
Last year a gunstore I visited had a 2020 python priced at $1,849.00, needless to say I definitely felt it was way too overpriced for the potential issues I heard of when they started reproduction in 2020. Ended up Waiting a whole year visiting the local shops around where I live till I found a 6" python for MSRP and decided to jump on it. No issues so far but from a $1,500.00 gun you'd expect a flawless experience at the very least. A great show-and-tell gun though.
only guys who payed over mspr think they are worth it 😂...dont get me wrong i would pay 1400 for one of these even though i wish they were more in the 1000-1200 range..
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The old Colts had to be hand fitted because the parts were roughly machined. The modern CNC parts are checked by the machine itself, and it’s unlikely that the operator would input incorrect dimensions. I own 3 new Pythons, and they’re 100% perfect…except for the rear sights. The Wilson Combat sights are perfect.
The stock rear sights are loose aren’t they? Mine were very loose on my new python. My crowning also looked terrible. I purchased the first week of release so mine was flawed right out of the box.
pretty sure that is not entirely correct. Take a new(ish) Ruger revolver... rough as a cob. It is not just dimensions. It is how the parts mate. That being said... any quality revolver will be smoother after 5k rounds are put through it. Back in the day we would endlessly dry fire new guns. The machines these days are doing a better job for sure but not.... quite... like skilled gunsmiths. I have an old PPC competition gun based on an old model 10 smith with a custom barrel and a trigger stop and action job and crane lockup. it is as smooth as anything ever.
Amen. I own the 2nd gen in 3”, 4.25” and 6” and each are perfect according to my expectations. No failures, high performance.
I agree Frank
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I'm 77 and almost brought a 686 until my wife how much longer you going to live buy the Colt and I did .glad I listened for a change ! 😅
My wife said said the same lol. I've always wanted a Colt python and surprisingly my wife encouraged me to get mine.
This has got to be the first boomer ever in the history of the Internet to make a comment where he doesn't put his wife on a pedestal or paints her as a drill instructor he has to walk on eggshells around. Admits to never listening to her, and when he finally does listen to her, it's because she made a good point that benefited his happiness. Good for him. 👍🏻
I got a Colt Python 4.25 inch in 2022. I try to get to the range once a week. The Python has been very reliable. The trigger pull is even smoother now..
Very nice!! Enjoy it!
Back in around 1984 or '85 I was in a shop that had a sale going on, had a 38 Diamondback for $289 , almost bought it, but then I saw a S&W Model 27 in a presentation box for $210 . Being a low ranking soldier not making much money, I went with the 27. Haven't regretted it yet, but whenever I see a Diamondback , 😢..... Wish I could have bought them both! Thanks for the revolver videos!
I love my new Python. It's alot like my 686 except nicer in every way in my opinion and it doesn't have a damn ugly lock hole in the side.
It has a horrible single action trigger unsuitable for target shooting. It also has a double action trigger that is super long, with a super long reset, that is unsuitable for even relatively rapid fire. It's also only 6 shots.
I agree. I do love Smiths, but I get old ones or new ones without that ridiculous lock.
I won't buy a Hilary Hole smith and if someone gave me one I'd unload it for an older Smith.
If I have to hear about the damn ugly lock hole again! Maybe put some hair around in and all the guys will fall in love 😘
I think some advantages of the new Colt Python are, 1- newly designed/ engineered and less internal parts (less friction) for trigger pull and less chance for timing issues developing. 2- parts cut to exact tolerances via CNC machines (smooth exacting fit). 3 - beefed up top strap by 30% (strengthened frame). 4- easily removable front sight.
The modern CNC processes are far more repeatable than any manual machinist / bench assembler could ever be. There is zero need for any hand fitting anymore. The hand fitting was required because they couldn’t hold the tolerances coming off the manual machines.
Really? Think about that. They are not changing the dimensions when they handfit a revolver. What they are doing is smoothing the mating surfaces. Show me a mirror like finish gotten with a CNC machine. Someday maybe but we are not there yet. I think what you are saying is that what the machine puts out is 'good enough' and I would agree but let me put it this way... after you shoot a new revolver a few thousand times? It will be..... smoother. Trigger pulls will be lighter and more reliable. If things were perfect to begin with that would not happen. Sorta like what my dad said about haircuts. The differnce between a good haircut and a bad one is..... Two weeks.
@@doranmaxwell1755 they wire edm the trigger. No stoning needed.
@@silverstacker8282 Ok... you for sure know more about modern machining tech than I do but. If I am wrong and you are correct... can you explain how guns smooth up with use? Have you looked at the surfaces after say 5k rounds? Why is there a polished look that was not there before... one could almost say high and low spots? If you are saying 'good enough for the girls I go out with' then I would agree.. Without something like a trigger scale and without tearing into the gun? no one would know. I am shocked myself when what I think is a 3lb pull turns out to be something like 5 on a scale. Also... why polish the outside of a gun (or anything) if electrical discharge can make a mirror finish? Not saying you are wrong... just saying the machines have not quite taken over yet.. Skynet still has some glitches. Modern furniture vs old? The new stuff looks just as good mostly but may end up in the dump in 20 years. Old cars vs new (hot rods in my case) ? I am kinda thinking I can live without power mirrors or a ghost that puts my E brake on or lights and buzzers that tell me how to behave... or even power windows for that matter.. Just replaced the window regulators in my 74 C10 pickup.. they wore out after 50 years... But? I did convert the truck to 2010 LS drivetrain with..... computer! LOl Seat belts are optional and I rarely use em.
@@doranmaxwell1755 even with a stoned surface there will still be a wear pattern after 5,000 pulls. The stoning isn’t necessary anymore. The EDM process produces a more accurate engagement without the hand work. All the angles are perfectly in place. And there’s no risk of over doing it or damaging the engagement from stoning. Triggers that are EDM cut are far more consistent for far longer. Because the contact points and angles are perfect. The outside finish of a gun will always need to be blasted / polished to remove the tool marks. That will never change. But the internals are produced better than they ever have been.
@@silverstacker8282 I am sure you are correct on the outside surface thing. But.... why is it true for the outside that it can't be done but not true for the inside. When I talk wear patterns I am saying the wear pattern changes as the parts are mated in a normal fashion. And.... oddly enough? They work better after they have worn in. Stoning an action should remove almost no metal You are not trying to get rid of every scratch or pit. You are trying to get more of both surfaces to mate. If you have a high spot say on one surface and you allow em to mate through friction it will work but that high spot will create a low spot on the other part which will create high spots etc etc. Won't matter a whit if the angles are perfect. What matters is that a very small area is taking all the friction. The more surface area you can get to mate and.... quickly... the better. If machining could be perfected as you say then there would never be a ring around the cyl stops. Eventually the bolt high spots wear enough that they no longer ring the cyl... if bad enough they probly never will tho. And... there is wear happening on the cyl. which is mostly always highly polished and needs no wear. Yet.... there you have it. And... you actually can polish the bolt and completely or almost completely stop that 'ring around the cylinder' thing. Plus... it normally means that the bolt now engages the notch better.
IMO a $990 686 has a MIM hammer and trigger, unworkable and ugly finish, rubber grips, Hillary hole and a stacking coil spring. These are $1400 all day. $400-500 on top of a 686 is inconsequential for the fit, finish and superb lockup on these. This gun would be perfectly fine in a duty holster or OWB if you actually wanted to, there's nothing stopping you from doing it. I have Harrison fiber optic sights and a hogue custom wood grip on my 4.25" and I love every part of it, no malfunctions, no blemishes. Best part is it's not an investment and I don't care if it slides around on the table. Korths are not handfitted, they are made literally the exact same way as new pythons and manurhins, on five axis CNC machines
Handfitting arguments are so lame bro honestly, I don't know what you're even arguing. Every part on the new pythons and cobras are individually inspected, all the MIM parts have real inspection stamps that can be referenced back to a workstation in the factory
I got me a space age python and dont regret it one bit. Shoots as good as ya could ever want it to.
I own a number of original Pythons and several new Pythons in each of the barrel lengths. The new Pythons are excellent except for the rear sight. WC makes a nice click adjustable replacement which is better than the original's Elliason rear sight. Recently picked up a 4.25" Davidson's engraved model. The Colt revolver line is really one of the best values in the market today. Colts don't have sleeved barrels, alloy frames, frame key locks or any other non desirable feature.
All true my friend. They are tremendous values in todays market. And, beautiful to boot.
Love the new Colt revolvers and really would like to get a Python and a Anaconda in my collection. I have a 2" King Cobra and Cobra in my EDC rotation.
FYI: the Colt clockwise rotation vs. Smith counter-clockwise is a company tradition in both instances.
Bought the 4.25" yesterday, put a few cylinders through it. Supplants my factory engraved nickel SAA as my favorite. Had a 1st generation in the 70's and this peice lives up to expectations.
Double action is good for close encounters. But the single action is great for longer distance.
I paid waaaay over MSRP when I bought mine during the pandemic 😢. I feel a little sick when I see how much the prices went down but whatever. I feel like I’ve had good luck with it so far.
Well, you got to enjoy it first. I sold mine for the same as I bought after also paying way over MSRP.
Just curious, how much was too much to pay? I know they were asking 1600 a few years ago. Bought 2 pythons last week 1400 each(2.5&5in)
It’s only money. You can’t take it with you. Enjoy your gun and don’t look back.
Can you say Rick Grimes...?😅 He's sold more Colt Pythons than anyone!
Very nice video. Good honest points presented in a non bias manner. Thank You for taking the time to present your thoughts so that the rest of us can learn and make informed decisions.
I have a colt python with the 4.25 inch barrel like the one in this video.
I had to send it back twice to Colt.
The first time with timing issues.
The second time the 357 cartridges wouldn't eject out of the cylinder after it was fired..the cartridges were jammed in there so tight it took a half hour to dig them out.
Colt reemed out all 6 cylinders and now it works fine.
Yep old Colt parts back in the day were put together with rough machined parts by expert gunsmiths. Today they are fitted with precise parts that can’t be duplicated by human hands
I tell you what! I have all the new sizes Gen - 2 pythons and Anacondas . But my dream revolver hands down is a korth. Good video. Also $1500 bucks for a Gen-2 Python is pennies on the dollar in todays age. Modern Milling processes have caught up to hand precision fitting.
This is a interesting comparison. I too felt that the price was too high, especially since my LGS has several in stock. But, tell us about the holster you have!
The price is not bad considering over 90% of the Python is hammer forged steel and a solid lug, one piece barrel. If you want to see a real screw job, look nor further than the Ruger Super GP 100 in 357 Magnum. Cast frame, absolutely no hammer forged at all, MIM internals and a "tube in shroud" two piece barrel for an MSRP of $1859. That is a fucking rip off and laughable price. Bill Ruger is screaming from his grave.
Hey Bro, I just stumbled on your channel. Love the old Colt's. I bought the "New" Python 6" when it came out. I paid north of $2,300 and is one of the first 3000 produced by Colt in 2019. LOVE IT. Is it better than my 71 Royal Blue 4" Python? Naw! Fun Video brother.
thanks! and very nice Python! Stay tuned as there is a heavy request for me to start showing my vintage Pythons...sooooo next vid we'll start looking at the vintage ones.
New pythons are made with 410 steel. Yoke geometry is thicker. Dimensionally it’s slightly different than the old python by like microns.
Long story short. The new one is better and more durable. Anyone that says it isn’t.
A. Is not an engineer
B. They have to find approval elsewhere
C. Most likely divorced
I have a 2022 Anaconda. I can say that it is mechanically miles ahead of the first generation Anacondas. The finished however is straight out of the tumbler. Very blurry in comparison to the revolvers Colt produced with skilled polishers on the line. I also agree with you on the rear sight. For the money I’m disappointed that I have to invest another 100 bucks in a rear site on a gun as expensive as the Anaconda to make it shootable.
I totally disagree with your opinion on cnc vs hand fitted . The reason Pythons were hand fitted is the level machining was not as precise as cnc machining is today . Cnc machining is very precise so hand fitting is not required . I am a retired Toolmaker with 45 years in the trades so l know a little about the subject . Of course thats my opinion and some will disagree . Thanks for your review on the Python . One of the most beautiful revolvers ever 👍✌️🇺🇲
I just shot my new Colt Python this weekend and it was great. Only thing I was expecting the .38 Special rounds to have a little less recoil, but to be fair I never shot .38’s before. Overall I was pretty satisfied. I have no problem with the serrated trigger or how the cylinder pops out and rotated.
I have a Ruger .44mag and I like both guns but for different reasons.
I have this same one and have several S&W’s as well. The only thing that bothers me is the crappy rear sight. I’ll modify it with the Harrison bits. I will say it’s nice to see that there are only 3 mim parts. The hammer and trigger are a lot nicer than modern Smiths.
1:17 "It's funny that some people get themselves into a tizzy that really they should not."
You have just described the Internet
That is one beautiful revolver...I just picked up a S&W 28 Highway Patrolman in 95% not sure if it was ever shot....good to see you again brother
I inherited a 28-2 from my dad. Such a great gun. Enjoy
@@CamdelaCam you have an excellent gun....have fun with it
You are correct about the sights, but like yourself, I still have not changed them ! First thing I "HAD TO CHANGE" was those horrible grips !! First off, they are nothing more than cheap plywood, and not really fancy wood at that ! The upper back corners are kind of square shaped, and my thumb was beaten purple on the first 200 rounds of .357. They came off immediately, and I went to the original "Colt" Pachmayr finger groove Grippers, with the Colt medallion. The original grips will be much modified before they ever go back on the gun. And as a Grip Maker for some 30 years, I may look around for some "special " block of wood and make a new set for it ! The new Python has a very smooth D.A. pull, but compared even to my GP 100's it is way too heavy, and will most likely need a new set of Wilson springs soon. I'm also in the market for a set of the Original old Python grip panels. You have had your Python for a while, but I have only had mine for a couple months, and have not been able to put the time and energy into the improvements I feel are necessary, in order for me to fall back in love with the Python again as I was back in the 1960's !! Mine is the 4.25" Stainless Python! Sadly, . . . . now I need a new 6" blued Python too !!!!!!
I think the Colt cylinders are rotating the right way. The clockwise rotation pushes the crane into the frame. The counter clockwise cylinder rotation of S&W is pushing the cylinder out of the frame. That is the reason why S&W has to put 2 detent on the frame to keep the cylinder in the frame.
I have heard the very first batches that came out had problem but, that has been remedied.
Great video, thanks! I really want one because I think they are the best looking revolvers available. But I think of how much customization I could add to a stock 686 for the price difference (roughly $500). Still on the fence.
The korth is just a beautiful revolver don't understand the hate ,unfortunately alot of the bespoke trades are dieing out ,manufacturers these days want quick easy money.
From my research the new Colts are more robust and more finely tuned than the older models. I bought a 4.25” stainless Anaconda, and it is simply beautiful. 👍
Is it just me, or do their cylinder-latch notches "point" in the wrong direction?
It’s just you.
I bought a King Cobra as a compromise between a Python and Anaconda. Ended up buying an Anaconda and Python anyway.
On the zoom in close up the finish looks a little rough for a $1500 gun. Thanks for sharing.
For someone who doesn't care about what people think u sure love to address them and mimic them.....broski WHO CARES what people say or think!! U make great videos and u own fantastic pistols....jst keep doing ur thing and ignore the morons.....beautiful revolver by the way! Absolutely gorgeous.
It's a beautiful gun but I would do the Pepsi challenge with my 686 plus ANY DAY OF THE WEEK!
I'm glad you said to put a wilson combat rear sight on this python I have the very same gun. I just ordered the wilson combat rear sight
Very good. I have a vide I recorded about that rear sight coming up next.
The guys over at Wilson Combat Ken, Bill and Massad have come to really appreciate the Python as well as the Beretta 92. I'm really enjoying my 4.25 Python but I enjoy the S&W R8 just as much too. 👍 You should get another R8 again by the way just saying later
Is that the model TRR8 or the M&P R8 that you have? I'm actually trying to decide between the R8 and the 4.25 Python. If you had to choose one to be the better of the 2 which would u pick?
@DragonzPlay I have the R8 and if I had to choose between the two? That's a really hard decision for me cause they compliment each other so well. One of them is the ultimate home defense/duty revolver and the other is the ultimate beauty queen and I couldn't imagine my safe without either one but it would probably be the Python.
@@chavo4265 is one noticeably more accurate than the other?
@DragonzPlay The Python is definitely more accurate but the R8 is still very accurate as well. The Python needs the Wilson Combat rear sights however if you're planning on shooting it cause the sights it comes with really suck. I put a square notch combat rear sight on the R8, much better than the one's it comes with works very well. Good luck
@@chavo4265 Thanks for the feedback!
Aside from an "assembler" vs. an expert "pistolsmith" putting the gun together. How would you compare that "pistolsmith" a human with the exact tolerances/specs of parts, compared with manufactured and executed parts from a modern CNC machine?? Which is more precise??
After owning both old and new Pythons, my unsolicited advice for a first time Python owner is to save another $500-$1000 more and get an old one.
Why? $2500 doesn't even buy you a nice one. A vintage python is a safe queen and bragging rights gun and nothing else, not even a suitable target gun. Are you really gonna blast through 100 Magnums in an afternoon with your buddies out of a vintage investment grade python?
😂The old Pythons were very picky with ammo and sensitive all around with hi pressure loads. The new ones are by far superior to the old ones, people need to get out of their shell and realize this.
Machine shops have inspection departments and everything. The people assembling don't have to know anything else other than assembly. If the machine shop is operating properly, hand fitting isn't really necessary. I've worked in a machine shop and have witnessed the process. In some cases, we see sloppy tolerances and reject those parts.(or in some cases, hand fitting can be done) CNC doesn't = low standards. Its just more hands free. Its up to the programmers and the machinist/operators as well as inspection to ensure they aren't producing scrap parts or low quality final product. Oh and trust me, they care about what they are producing. If they wanna keep their job, they won't crank out garbage
Found a nice used 2023 model Colt Python from gun store, $1275. Opinions on buying used revolvers?
You can buy new for same amount. Just remember colt only has one year warranty
Wow, what a beautiful well made gun. For better than your Smith's,but you should sell it. It's easy to hear how jealous you are for your another guns. Colt is the best and more than worth it money they ask. The sight is low quality but it work and is almost always replaced anyway. Iv own several snake guns and they are awesome and worth more than most other revolvers.
Love the 357 Python. After owning several Pythons from the late 70s and early 80s i must say that the new Python outperforms my nearly 50 year old Pythons. The vintage Pythons were so finicky depending on ammo used. These newer ones just feel more ready to do business. Shame Colt puts a cheap useless rear sight on a $1500 revolver.
Highly considering the 2.5in that comes with smaller grips for carry. Unfortunate about the sight though especially for the cost.
Those guns are cool but watching this makes me very content with my Rugers.
Rugers are great. They are creeping up in price though
Was think I will stick with my S&W
@@vicsage83 inflation is part of it, you can find them used for decent prices if you look around
@@kyrozudesoya1829 no doubt. I still think they make an excellent revolver.
Redhawk MSRP is like $1400, too. Glad I bought my 8x 357 5" redhawk for $800 when it came out.
What holster are you using for your Python? I have the same one out the Wilson on front and back and love it now!
Picked up a 4.25 in Charlotte for 1300. They had 19 in stock!
I have never seen a Korth in the wild. Before the new Pythons came out, I rarely saw them except for gun shows with obscene prices. Never spend more than MSRP for anything period. But, the Colts have an incredibly dependable following, and I have never lost money on a premium Colt. That explains the prices you see. That may not be of interest to some, but it is to me. The Python set the tone for all revolvers to compare to. It’s just reality. The sights, stocks, trigger, serrations, hammer, etc. are all personal taste; nothing more. CNC is desirable to me. It’s called progress. Hand fitting is of no interest to me whatsoever. In fact, it’s detrimental in day to day applications, repairing, replacing, or changing parts. My family had many police officers, prison guards, etc., and the Python was what most of them wanted at that time. They mainly carried Smiths or Smolts however, because Pythons have never been cheap, nor should they ever be. Thanks for taking the time to make the video.
Guns are just tools...the only thing that matters is that they go bang every time. Ergos and looks are secondary to that, and price range is determined by what u can afford. TRAINING is the key to making the gun useful no matter what brand you buy. I find it hilarious, as a competition shooter and retired Army vet, that dudes who probably suck at shooting have such strong opinions of the handguns they choose.
If I was going to part with a ton of cash for a vintage revolver, it would have to be a S&W Pre-model 27 3.5 inch. I looked at one a few years ago at a gun show and the guy was asking $1400ish. I could kick myself for not buying it then, because it would probably fetch 2-3k now. At the same time, it seemed like it didn't lock up quite as tight as I would have wanted. I sort of hate when guns get that "collectable" status. 😑🙄
It would fetch $2-3k 5 years ago.
Will you ever get a MR73? Coming from a guy who can never own a gun in my country
Stainless not nickel. Also, huge fan of Korth. Thnaks for the review.
I'm not sure it's fair to compare the Colt Python to a Korth revolver. The Korth costs at least triple the price of the Python, while the Python costs only thirty or so percent more than a Smith and Wesson. I think it's a more fair comparison to ask if the better finish, recessed crown, forged one-piece screwed-in barrel, minimal use of MIM parts, smooth trigger action, uniqueness, etc., is worth paying the extra premium over the S&W. It was for me.
Pjicing for the Python/Anassconda IS a tad high for any production revolver....AGREED. Especialy when you can get a good S&W for half the cost e.g 686. I mean what are we really paying for buyig iether the Python or Colt? The "ribbing " :)) Very hard to justify....even if you can afford the asking price e.g. in Canada they range from $2200-2800 CAD :P Ummm....For what will be a range gun??
You hit the nail on the head when you said the smith and Wesson performance center revolver being a better value ..true statement!
Be honest with yourself. You want the Python because it’s absolutely beautiful. If you were looking for an everyday working man’s.357 that’s going to get scratched and dirty you’d buy a GP100.
Will the original Colt Eliason sight fit the new gun?
3,800 for the entry level Korth vs 1,500 for the Python. Guess it comes down to how much you are able to spend on a range gun. Performance center Smith's and now 1,200 and to me they still don't have as good of a double action trigger as the new Python. Never held a Korth for that kind of money it must be heavenly.
I'm seeing pythons out west for around $1300.
What size 3/4/6 to buy is my question
Bro I just got a 3” that was introduced in 2022!!!!
very nice! that's the only Python I do not own. I would love a vintage 3" but not practical LOL. The 2nd gen version makes more sense. Enjoy it!!! And yes get a Wilson Combat rear sight for it as well as maybe a different front sight.
Was this a discounted "blem" model that Colt is selling?
The new Pythons and Anacondas are great revolvers.
I have been shooting mine and still no turn ring
Saw 4 at a gunshow, 3 at a shop. All were $1500+. Bargain minded...you can brag to your friends, "I saved $1000 ...and bought a Taurus. "
Still waiting on my Colt Python, because imho, its still the most beautiful „classic“ revolver. Still cant believe you guys only pay about 1500$, here in Switzerland it cost 2570CHF which equivalents to 2810$.
Would love to have one, but can't bring myself to choke up the money... Same with the Korth ... maybe if I won the lottery...
The old ones had to be hand fit because their part uniformity was crap. The new Python has superb tolerances, eclipsing those of the Smith & Wesson by some margin in terms of barrel tolerances, chamber tolerances, cylinder throat tolerances, and throat uniformity. Chamber-to-barrel alignment is more precise as well. It's superior to Smith & Wesson, it's superior to Ruger, it's superior to the Dan Wesson revolvers of yesterday, and it's superior even to the old Pythons. It takes VERY expensive machines to achieve this. The Python/Anaconda (New) tolerances in these areas rival those of Korth and Manurhin. I know this because I performance tune revolvers for a living. I have tuned over 2,000 of the New Pythons/Anacondas and I'm very familiar with Manurhin and Korth, occasionally servicing them and owning a couple. The New Colts equal those tolerances and specs. THAT is what you're paying for.
CNC Machining? Colt's documented ISO system mandates that every batch of parts be measured to the print. There will not be 10,000 Pythons with defective parts. Never mind union workers, the "hand craftsmanship" of Wilson, etc.... ARE YOU SERIOUS?? You are describing a $3500+ revolver!! The new Python is stronger, more accurate, they have a better out-of-the-box double-action trigger and we can give you a single-action trigger as light as a CRISP 2 lbs. Old Pythons? We have (Heffron Precision©) competently serviced them for going on 35 years. If you call Colt and want service on an old Colt, or custom work on a new series double-action, they will send you to us.
For the price they should have good rear sights.
I paid $1380 out the door for mine brand new the one thing that really bothered me about it was the rear sight total crap on a nice revolver
Easy to shim the rear sight's dovetail slot with dental floss to make it as tight and unmovable as you wish. Don't throw the baby out with the bath water it's not rocket science to shim a simple dovetail slot. The rear sight is just fine with a simple zero cost tweak.
Talk about the python!
0:28 0:31 elvis and me own pythons
I have two Pythons. My old one was made in 1956. Bought the new one in 22. The old one is not even in the same league as the new one.
I've never understood the fascination with these. Sure they're nice looking but $1500? Come on.
Think about this.....The 2020 Colt Python is all cold hammer forged frame and parts, except for 4 non-stress parts and has a solid one-piece barrel for $1499. Meanwhile, the Ruger Super GP100 357 has a cast frame, a tube and shroud 2 piece barrel, and all MIM internals with no hammered forge parts and a much worse factory trigger than the Colt for a price of $1859. Tell me again who is fucking their customers more, Colt or Ruger?!?!?
Are you poor? Serious question. $1500 is nothing in the world of guns
I take it your broke or new to the gun world. $1500 is nothing bro. Hell I spend over 3 grand on a 3" and 6" last year. And put a Python next to a out of the box 686, GP100 or Taurus 66 and the differances are light years. The attention to detail is through the roof, the guns a work of art while the others you can spot the flaws a mile away especially a Taurus and next the Ruger and then the Smith.
Cheaper than the old, not as smooth as the old, but for yhe price this one can actually afford to be shot instead of being a safe queen
The only beef I have with the 2nd gen is that g** d*** red mark on the front sight!
The first-generation Python cost as much as that Korth that you keep showing these days, and was hand fitted as well. When your Korth is shot a lot and needs a tune-up, it's the same as a first-generation Python doctor bill. The only difference is that Colt don't have many if any of the craftsmen that they used to have.
Older pythons can appear new but out of time so bad they'd be unsafe to fire , the newer ones are definitely built better
Pretty Cool But The Korth Has it Beat Hands Down 😀😊
Five thousand dollars, it should be.
Nah, ugly gun.
"It's just a fun revolver. That's all it is to me." Yep - I have one and totally agree. This is a recreational revolver intended to bust bullseyes at the range and to brag about to your friends. They may not say say it, but they all want one too. Eye-popping gorgeous; wonderfully accurate; glorious double action trigger; single action trigger heavier than ideal due to some blue state safety regs, but the gun is so massive that it simply soaks that up. If you miss, it wasn't the gun's fault. Put a set of Hogue coco bolo wood grips on it and you will get wood every time you look at it. Pricey? Yes, but not way over what GP-100s and 686s are going for these days. Buy one - you will be happy you did.
Dude had the stupid Korth in frame more than the Colt lol
I also hate the serrations on the trigger face also. too bad its not smooth like my smith and wesson revolvers.
After a while those serrations will make shooting the python unpleasant
I bought a Smith and Wesson 686 performance center and first time I pulled the trigger it catastrophically failed. Won’t go into detail, however they had it 3 months and I lost my taste for em. ALL guns ALL guns, have issues that don’t fit every individual even Korth and I’d never buy one for that money. Doesn’t interest me.
Get to know your dealer. he will let you use some tools like feeler and pin gauges. Pythons kinda sorta will go out of time but it takes 10k rounds of sorta abusive fast DA work... even then... What goes wrong? the hand. A reproduction hand it like $30. if... you add a trigger stop? you will never wear out a Python... Or any revolver for that matter. Fast DA work really beats up a revolver. Centrifugal force and all that. the Colt just shows up first cause it is more 'precise' and depends more on the lockup of the hand/cyl stop (I am simplifying) Single action or 'slow' DA work and? slow being about a sec or so between shots.. and you will never wear out a Python.. or a smith... If you simply must have super fast DA every time?? get a trigger stop.
I doubt the trolls have ever shot a korth probobly never even shot a python...
I seems to be that people that can’t afford the python are just looking for an excuse to buy a cheaper revolver and are willing to do whatever it takes to find non existing issues with it.
Well, slightly disagree with this guy. The reason Cole pythons are no longer hand fitted is because the machining is so good now they don’t have to hand fit so the argument about hand fitting is not quite correct. The pieces fit better off the production line than they ever did from 1955 to 2002.
Colt made several mistakes which they continue to make. Not tightening screws, damaging the crowns, and putting junk sights on a quality revolver.
Too many issues for a $1,500 revolver. I'll pass and stick with Ruger SP101 GP100 and even my Taurus tracker. I had a python back in 1982 and traded it off for a Smith & Wesson Model 29.
Shows a Korth and than complains about $1500 price point of Colt..... Yeah you lost me right there buddy
Dont know what your smokeing my colt is very fine gun
Last year a gunstore I visited had a 2020 python priced at $1,849.00, needless to say I definitely felt it was way too overpriced for the potential issues I heard of when they started reproduction in 2020. Ended up Waiting a whole year visiting the local shops around where I live till I found a 6" python for MSRP and decided to jump on it. No issues so far but from a $1,500.00 gun you'd expect a flawless experience at the very least.
A great show-and-tell gun though.
I strongly believe colt pythons are waaaaaaaay over priced. I saved and saved for mine only for it to be crap
I paid $1199 for mine
K frames rule.
only guys who payed over mspr think they are worth it 😂...dont get me wrong i would pay 1400 for one of these even though i wish they were more in the 1000-1200 range..