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Like your videos. Glad you restarted doing them. Hope all well. Would like to believe that China is doing as much as they claim. Jinping has caused as more problems than he has helped. Likely he had little to do with this. Hopefully he breaks down and pursues better policies, fingers crossed. This could be even better executed, but little steps.
Every home and business should install a rain water collection and storage system along with solar panels. Even in areas where rain is infrequent it is crazy to waste the little rain that does fall and waste it. We need to stop planting green lawns and switch to local native plantings around homes. It is crazy to plant lawns and build golf courses in dry desert areas. We waste too much water and electricity.
I couldn't agree more. Also, gray water systems should be legal and commercialized for home use. All cleaning products should be non-toxic and environmentally safe so we can confidently use gray water to grow food.
But even if they are better located, the new forests are not healthier. There is a vast difference between naturally-occurring old-growth forests and the monoculture plantation forests that comprise over 80% of TNSP forests. The TNSP grows these plantation forests rather than more natural forests because, in addition to beating back desertification, the trees there can be periodically chopped down for timber (before the area is replanted), thus providing economic benefits. The problem with these monoculture forests is that, whilst they grow faster, they don’t create balanced ecosystems (meaning they cannot be self-sufficient), and are more prone to diseases and pests. In one incident in 2000, a single pest infection wiped out a billion planted poplar trees in Ningxia, northwest China. This loss was enough to prompt the World Bank to advise China to focus on “quality rather than quantity,” but the damage has already been done: after decades of deforestation, only 2% of China’s forests remain old-growth. During another incident in 2014, large swathes of the Bashang plains in north China were dying, essentially of neglect, because monoculture forests had been mismanaged and left to survive on their own.
So what is the solution an old growth forest that has been cut down or died of drought conditions, is gone forever it can’t be an old growth forest again for hundreds or thousands of years can it not? I don’t have a solution but better to try something than not try at all surely.
In this particular project they planted all kinds of different trees and drought hardy shrubs as a shield barrier against the desert. I think on some of the farms planted trees as a corridor around the parameter, they may have planted just one or two species but these are not intended to replicate a natural forest but are part of a working farm and they most likely have a use for the trees.
But just as it takes years for trees to mature, it takes years to accurately measure the success of a forestry project. Results in the short term are often promising, with millions of trees sprouting and looking healthy, but the true viability of the forest won’t be apparent for decades. Right now, the TNSP appears solid, but it is at least partially based on an initially successful reforestation project of the Mu Us Sandland in North China’s Inner Mongolia. However, a 2008 report on the project by Dr Shixiong Cao, a professor at Beijing Forestry University, later discovered that more than 70% of the trees had died within two decades and soil conditions were worse than when the project started.
This would be better if they did smaller, more frequent rainwater catchments, and place them higher in the landscape, avoiding placing them on too steep of land. This will keep the watertable higher. Smaller is less prone to failure, and frequent means less reliance on pumping. Shading the catchments with trees keeps the soil protected, and allows the water to seep in faster, avoiding mosquitos. If they polycrop that also uses less water overall, even if seems counterintuitive, while adding much more net productivity.
This was partly because they had nobody to care for the trees in remote places & lack of water source, as well as monoculture planting which is susceptible to disease, the great thing about this project is that they learned from these hard lessoned and decided to create a new project that would be more successful after extensive studies and learning from mistakes, they decided to create this project where people are living so there are jobs for people to manage and care for newly planted plants, shrubs and trees and work on farms. Hopefully this one will be more successful long term, its already looking more promising than previous projects.
The government never thought they could regreen the desert until one woman proved that it could be done through trial and error over decades of backbreaking work and destitute living in order to afford seedlings. They've used her practices to regreen other areas. She proved that with determination and hard work miracles can happen.
There's not degraded environment in large scale that naturally comes, but it's just as it should be concerning the harsh conditions it has, not even China can shape the vast terrain to its own will, the time and the nature will take what to them belongs, or maybe earlier, the day that the inputs they have to invest into the region are bigger than the outputs they are getting from.
How sure are you of that? Desertification has long been a problem in China. The yellow river wasn't always yellow, long ago, I think the 600's AD? Anyway more than a thousand years back, the Great River turned yellow due to deforestation and desertification causing the soil to loosen and break away into the river
Population needs to be in balance with jobs, resources, nature and the environment. Having a bigger population in any country than the country can support makes no sense. Access to food, water, shelter, energy and jobs should guide population levels. The worlds population is still expected to add another billion people to feed, clothe and produce pollution. Humans are crowding out all other species of plants and animals. Education and birth control are key to reducing poverty and hunger. Having a child that you can not provide for yourself is cruel and irresponsible. We need solutions not just sympathy. Endless population growth is not sustainable on a finite planet. Every country needs to "TRY" to be more self sufficient. When there are not enough resources to sustain a population something has to give. Countries need to focus on quality of life for their citizens and not just quantity of life for cheap labor. Why import fossil fuels when wind and solar energy can be produced locally and solar energy can power electric vehicles. We need solutions not just sympathy.
Some experts have estimated that the earth can sustainably support 3-4 billion people. We are at 8.3 billion. A lot of us need to get out of here and mother nature will do that for us with the spread of disease, floods, drought, fires, heat domes, polar vortices, typhoons, etc. Buckle up!
An oasis is defined by having a body of water in the desert, deserts are complex ecosystems and can include water. In the region there are literally dunes right next to the river bed, its still a desert regardless of the river and the river makes it possible to become an oasis in a more sustainable way than just ground water extraction.
yeah and destroying land and not addressing the issue this idea is stupid and will never work. but they too dumb to do real research and look at what they are actually doing lol
@@LeafofLifeWorld You actually mention in the video how extracting water from the Yellow River is causing it to dry up, how on earth is this wine growing enterprise sustainable?
@@jamieheald8732 I'm afraid I'm inclined to agree. It's not the only video they've done uncritically singing the praises of the CCP. The footage they use is clearly CCP produced, party leader touring the site, look how much we care about the peasants, world leaders in the environment, bla bla bla, greenwashing and outright lies.
Wow. Wine doesn't feed people. So, does the money from wine sales fund space exploration and administrative corruption or does it buy food on the international commodities market to feed the Chinese people? Feed the people first, play games later.
They have other kinds of farms there too growing fruit and grain but the wine is the cash crop for the area. wine comes from grapes and grapes can be eaten too.
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Other deserts could be countered this way hopefully.
Like your videos. Glad you restarted doing them. Hope all well.
Would like to believe that China is doing as much as they claim. Jinping has caused as more problems than he has helped. Likely he had little to do with this. Hopefully he breaks down and pursues better policies, fingers crossed.
This could be even better executed, but little steps.
Every home and business should install a rain water collection and storage system along with solar panels.
Even in areas where rain is infrequent it is crazy to waste the little rain that does fall and waste it.
We need to stop planting green lawns and switch to local native plantings around homes.
It is crazy to plant lawns and build golf courses in dry desert areas. We waste too much water and electricity.
I couldn't agree more. Also, gray water systems should be legal and commercialized for home use. All cleaning products should be non-toxic and environmentally safe so we can confidently use gray water to grow food.
Sterile looking treed areas and monoculture will threaten long term...not mother natures way of guarantee of success. Only a good start.
monocultures are not successful, thankfully they have been planting a mixture of different trees, plants and shrubs
China seems to be very good at everything they do. Good for them.
But even if they are better located, the new forests are not healthier. There is a vast difference between naturally-occurring old-growth forests and the monoculture plantation forests that comprise over 80% of TNSP forests. The TNSP grows these plantation forests rather than more natural forests because, in addition to beating back desertification, the trees there can be periodically chopped down for timber (before the area is replanted), thus providing economic benefits. The problem with these monoculture forests is that, whilst they grow faster, they don’t create balanced ecosystems (meaning they cannot be self-sufficient), and are more prone to diseases and pests. In one incident in 2000, a single pest infection wiped out a billion planted poplar trees in Ningxia, northwest China. This loss was enough to prompt the World Bank to advise China to focus on “quality rather than quantity,” but the damage has already been done: after decades of deforestation, only 2% of China’s forests remain old-growth. During another incident in 2014, large swathes of the Bashang plains in north China were dying, essentially of neglect, because monoculture forests had been mismanaged and left to survive on their own.
So what is the solution an old growth forest that has been cut down or died of drought conditions, is gone forever it can’t be an old growth forest again for hundreds or thousands of years can it not? I don’t have a solution but better to try something than not try at all surely.
@@kevdimo6459agree
In this particular project they planted all kinds of different trees and drought hardy shrubs as a shield barrier against the desert. I think on some of the farms planted trees as a corridor around the parameter, they may have planted just one or two species but these are not intended to replicate a natural forest but are part of a working farm and they most likely have a use for the trees.
But just as it takes years for trees to mature, it takes years to accurately measure the success of a forestry project. Results in the short term are often promising, with millions of trees sprouting and looking healthy, but the true viability of the forest won’t be apparent for decades. Right now, the TNSP appears solid, but it is at least partially based on an initially successful reforestation project of the Mu Us Sandland in North China’s Inner Mongolia. However, a 2008 report on the project by Dr Shixiong Cao, a professor at Beijing Forestry University, later discovered that more than 70% of the trees had died within two decades and soil conditions were worse than when the project started.
This would be better if they did smaller, more frequent rainwater catchments, and place them higher in the landscape, avoiding placing them on too steep of land.
This will keep the watertable higher. Smaller is less prone to failure, and frequent means less reliance on pumping.
Shading the catchments with trees keeps the soil protected, and allows the water to seep in faster, avoiding mosquitos.
If they polycrop that also uses less water overall, even if seems counterintuitive, while adding much more net productivity.
This was partly because they had nobody to care for the trees in remote places & lack of water source, as well as monoculture planting which is susceptible to disease, the great thing about this project is that they learned from these hard lessoned and decided to create a new project that would be more successful after extensive studies and learning from mistakes, they decided to create this project where people are living so there are jobs for people to manage and care for newly planted plants, shrubs and trees and work on farms. Hopefully this one will be more successful long term, its already looking more promising than previous projects.
The government never thought they could regreen the desert until one woman proved that it could be done through trial and error over decades of backbreaking work and destitute living in order to afford seedlings. They've used her practices to regreen other areas. She proved that with determination and hard work miracles can happen.
Well they need to stop stripping the oceans near other countries' coastlines. They will face ships being destroyed if they don't.
Very impressive indeed!! But why are only grape vines for wein grown and not vegetabiles, grains and fruit trees?
yes they have other kinds of farms and fruit trees but the cash crop is wine
There's not degraded environment in large scale that naturally comes, but it's just as it should be concerning the harsh conditions it has, not even China can shape the vast terrain to its own will, the time and the nature will take what to them belongs, or maybe earlier, the day that the inputs they have to invest into the region are bigger than the outputs they are getting from.
It's still a monoculture of industrial agriculture. Mammals aren't living on the land - but the birds like it, I guess.
The desert was created by Mao's "great leap forward", by cutting down all the forests for "development". No trees means desert takes over.
How sure are you of that? Desertification has long been a problem in China. The yellow river wasn't always yellow, long ago, I think the 600's AD? Anyway more than a thousand years back, the Great River turned yellow due to deforestation and desertification causing the soil to loosen and break away into the river
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It helps China, but also all of us!
1500 years of no jobs how to become succesful much love cuatemoc
Is this an computer generated voice or why does it sound so exhausting?
no its not a computer generated voice, why is it exhausting for you?, no idea
yes it is AI generated. the clips are too
Population needs to be in balance with jobs, resources, nature and the environment. Having a bigger population in any country than the country can support makes no sense. Access to food, water, shelter, energy and jobs should guide population levels. The worlds population is still expected to add another billion people to feed, clothe and produce pollution. Humans are crowding out all other species of plants and animals. Education and birth control are key to reducing poverty and hunger. Having a child that you can not provide for yourself is cruel and irresponsible. We need solutions not just sympathy. Endless population growth is not sustainable on a finite planet. Every country needs to "TRY" to be more self sufficient. When there are not enough resources to sustain a population something has to give. Countries need to focus on quality of life for their citizens and not just quantity of life for cheap labor. Why import fossil fuels when wind and solar energy can be produced locally and solar energy can power electric vehicles. We need solutions not just sympathy.
Some experts have estimated that the earth can sustainably support 3-4 billion people. We are at 8.3 billion. A lot of us need to get out of here and mother nature will do that for us with the spread of disease, floods, drought, fires, heat domes, polar vortices, typhoons, etc. Buckle up!
Bravo China! Well done! You show the light to many developing countries!
Think you need to look a bit closer at china's regreening projects......
They not that sussesfull as this video makes out....
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This is how China could help Africa through BRICS+ cooperation
They made farms using a river. Hardly an oasis. Usually love your videos but this one is not for me
An oasis is defined by having a body of water in the desert, deserts are complex ecosystems and can include water. In the region there are literally dunes right next to the river bed, its still a desert regardless of the river and the river makes it possible to become an oasis in a more sustainable way than just ground water extraction.
yeah and destroying land and not addressing the issue this idea is stupid and will never work. but they too dumb to do real research and look at what they are actually doing lol
@@LeafofLifeWorld You actually mention in the video how extracting water from the Yellow River is causing it to dry up, how on earth is this wine growing enterprise sustainable?
@ruthohare9840 Chinese propaganda bro this channel has changed hardddd
@@jamieheald8732 I'm afraid I'm inclined to agree. It's not the only video they've done uncritically singing the praises of the CCP. The footage they use is clearly CCP produced, party leader touring the site, look how much we care about the peasants, world leaders in the environment, bla bla bla, greenwashing and outright lies.
The world needs to be more like China!!! (When it comes to trees)😍😍
Wow. Wine doesn't feed people. So, does the money from wine sales fund space exploration and administrative corruption or does it buy food on the international commodities market to feed the Chinese people? Feed the people first, play games later.
They have other kinds of farms there too growing fruit and grain but the wine is the cash crop for the area. wine comes from grapes and grapes can be eaten too.
Some actual good china is doing?!?!? Crazy. Love it though.