As a student at the University of Cambridge, it was crazy seeing the amount of support Jordan got for his talk at the union recently - with over a thousand people queueing upwards of 4 hours for the chance to see him in a venue with a maximum capacity of 400. It's jaw dropping that the overwhelming support for this man was ignored by the University, which instead chose to listen to a minority of people who opposed his visit, on the ridiculous grounds of a photo.
I’d be interested to know if at Cambridge, in the Humanities and social Sciences if an overwhelming majority of professors are also far left or left leaning indoctrination fanatics like they are in North American universities. Any insights?
I'm glad that Dr. PETERSON has been invited back to Cambridge. He has handled this insult with absolute class and dignity coming through it all looking superior to Cambridge on all accounts.
Thank you Dr. Jordan Peterson for your selfless service to all human beings even through your own personal health struggles. You are a tremendous blessing to this world!
Selfless service? Who do you think the most part of those $340 tickets for his shows goes to? You think all the income from his book sales goes to charity? LMAO
@@dellaethington9373 I fail to see how his wealth would contribute to a "better world". I just see a lot of insecure white men simping for a guru who likes to answer simple questions with big words and imo has some questionable opinions on climate change ("don't bother doing anything, it's too complicated"), economics (darwinism, basically) and sexism ("doesn't exist"). To each their own though. Peace.
The recognition of “soft, cuddly totalitarianism” reminded me of J.K. Rowlings’ brilliant illustration of such a figure in the character of Hogwarts Defence Against the Dark Arts teacher, and Ministry of Magic employee, Professor Dolores Umbridge. J.K. writes it like she sees it. And thank goodness for that!
Arif Ahmed you're a hero. If you do nothing else in your life you've been of service to the culture, thank you. Edit: that whole talk should be a template for all serious conversations. Facetiously, I wonder if Professor Gopal would discuss these matters with Professors Ahmed and Peterson sometime? I'm sure the audience would be huge and interested in what she had to say.
Jordan, you are a genius. You are also the patron saint of interruption. Allow others to finish their thoughts before sharing your brilliant insight. It's a win win. If you are going to assume others have something to say that we all might learn from, then let them say it.
Alright these ppl aren’t gods so chill with the worshipping 😂, but yeah freedom of speech is a nice thing so thanx… especially coming from someone in university in the uk
Thank God Cambridge is regaining its sanity. My son quoted Voltaire (or Evelyn - you know what I'm talking about) "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it" in a position paper and the teacher wrote "nah" on the paper! This is Canada. This is junior high.
*"Incredible change happens in your life when you decide to take control of what you have power over instead of craving control over what you don't." - Steve Maraboli*
I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do. I am free, no matter what rules surround me. If I find them tolerable, I tolerate them; if I find them too obnoxious, I break them. I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do. -- Robert A. Heinlein
Accountability is for behavior. Genetics shouldn’t reap credit nor shame. Some who crave control are wanting to undermine accountability itself, holding people responsible for the behavior of others. If I wasn’t directly involved, it wasn’t my behavior. I made no choice. If I wasn’t yet born, this is even simpler. Hold me not accountable for my genetics nor the behavior of others, as neither deserves credit nor blame. Words and actions, by others, give me neither pride nor shame. My DNA, determined prior to birth, is no source for pride nor shame. THESE AREN’T MY ACCOMPLISHMENTS. ⚖️🇺🇸
Every time Jordan is moved to tears I feel so much warmth for this man who is so genuine and tries to hard to be honest and good. God bless you guys. Waiting excitedly for the new lectures!!!!
@@phasespace4700 You really got nothing better to do than actively waiting for and watching the videos of a man you apparently hate, and then scroll through all the comments and use every opportunity you see to reveal to the world how much you hate this man?
So, it’s Monday night and I come home from a long day of work. What am I to do? Watch a movie on Netflix? It’s like, NO! Jordan has released a new podcast. So sit down and learn something! And that’s THAT! ♥️
@@phasespace4700 Hey, buddy. Have you tried the all meat diet? Seems like you consume nothing but resentment and anger. I know, why don’t you actually watch one of his lectures? You need all the help you can get, but you already know that. Peace be with you!
@@phasespace4700 Funnily enough, advances in the antediluvian historical sciences has increased the likelyhood of this tremendously. Can you imagine what the Atlanteans had?
Disagreement is Not oppression, argument is not assault. Words-even repugnant ones are not violence. The answer to speech we do not like, is not less speech it's more speech. Douglas Murray
@@twntwrs JP is against compelled speech. He has never expressed problems with opposing opinions. He does disagree with people trying to block voices, by force or law. I cannot give you an accurate opinion without more information. What university? What was the lawsuit about? Did it even affect him personally? Were they talking about silencing voices on campus? Was it about bill c-16? Was the conversation you noted even relevant to the lawsuit. The question you stated is inadequate.
This shouldn't need pointing out. Indeed it doesn't. Look up James Lynsay, he's pretty clear and rather special. This is a political agenda masquerading as a culturally benign social movement, its not.
@@OccamsRazor393 I'm referring to Peterson's $1.5-million lawsuit against Laurier university and three individuals for defamation. In a private conversation the opinion was expressed that he is racist, sexist, misogynist and dangerous. An opinion that I not only happen to disagree with but can also see intellectual dishonesty behind. However, I think the irony of precisely a freedom of speech warrior in the midst of a freedom of speech battle launching *this* particular lawsuit is too rich to let go by unremarked.
I still remember how excited I was over ethics and moral subject on my first year in medical school. I went and bought four different books on top of the one from my professor. Every discussion and each subject in his book was his one sided opinion. I couldn't make myself to accept it, even regardin the parts that I actually had a similar points of view with him. So on my final exam, all my essay answers were the exact opposite of what he was professing. I ended up with lowest passing grade (the majority were very high grades and no one was failed). I don't regret it to this day and still hold a grudge on how we were basically silenced and spoon feed someones explicit opinion on fundamental matters of life and death.
@@phasespace4700 wow unless you can back up those claims they are highly untrue and do not hold water. A very tired sentimate from the left and one that has been defeated countless times.
To DR. PETERSON i started to watch your video last year. Everytime i feel worthless and alone i go back here to listen to you. Please dont stop what youre doing you are like a father that i never had . Greetings from asia.(hong kong)
A few gems that resonated for me were: 45:45 'There's no such thing as a joke that isn't a micro aggression' 47:35 'Compassion is devouring. An excess of compassion is a vice' 47:43 A 'serious conversation about female totalitarianism' (48:08 aka 'soft totalitarianism') is 'long overdue' 47:57 'Totalitarianism of compassion is no joke' Take aways: over-sensitive people need to develop skin thick enough to take a joke, and toxic idea pathogens need some vitamin D - discernment, dissection and dismissal. And: 58:43 'The process is the punishment' - a great point related to having your name dragged through the mud, etc. Terrific work fellas. Wonderful conversation. All the efforts past and continued are greatly appreciated.
I see the issue with females in power everywhere. Females are fantastic. But being leaders with a mind that uses emotion to make decisions isnt a trait that is desirable for a leader. Theres a reason kings and great thinkers and leaders were never women. Its not because they arent necessary, beautiful and amazing creatures. Its because leaders think with logic not emotion. Just look at female cops. They are either called quota hires because they are only hired because the departments have to hire them to meet quotas. They rule with an iron opinion. If you cross them youll go to jail. Despite the law.
I felt shame for my country's highest learning institutions upon hearing that Dr Peterson had been uninvited for ideological reasons. I'm glad that they've rectified their mistake.
@@phasespace4700 The fact that your blood is boiling demonstrates how Dr Peterson's intellect, articulacy & profile strikes the fear of God into you & your dogmatic chums in the Dark Triad. Now, do run along! I'm sure you have some compassion to weaponise on Twitter, or something?! 😁
There's still ubiquitous acquiescence in all areas of society due to a desire for an "easy life." For example, who really believes that all large corporation's CEOs are fully behind Marxist organisation, BLM?! No, they just want to avoid awkward publicity, controversy...& being targeted by the sanctimonious & vitriolic Twitterati woke mob.
Thank you god for the return of Jordan' s strength and health at a time Canada needs you so badly, my arms are raised and tears in my eyes .for our children.
Jordan, I've been trying to comment on some of your videos for the past few days with absolutely no success. (Something/someone's erasing them almost immediately.) It may have to do with the subject I've been trying to communicate. (The story of the hell I've been through here in Argentina, related to all this Orwellian-type nonsense we're living in.) Has anyone else experienced the same thing happen?
@Aunt Jemima's Revenge It appears to be automatic and without a single warning. It even disappears from Google's activity history. Can't say I'm surprised tho.
Neither Genesis nor Exodus actually happened even though Peterson won't admit it since he needs to keep his godbothering clientele under the illusion that he believes they did or they will abandon him.
@@twntwrs Lucky you were there 4000 years ago and know all the details. Btw, JP talk about the PSYCHOLOGICAL SIGNIFICANCE, not the historical or religous significance
The most important idea I got from this podcast was James Orr explaining the spiral of silence. This is a crucial topic and it is of the utmost importance that as many people find out about as possible because this is what has happened and is happening ever more rapidly to western society. It's probably the single most important anti-woke idea.
@@allisonanne571 There are a few like phasespace (and all the Jerry Greene accounts) who spam the comments with their cynicism, but eventually they seem to stop and start paying attention. I don't enjoy reading their crass posts, but if I had to pick a channel for the nihilists and cynics to hate follow, it would probably be JBP :). Some of them must be improving and treating the other people in their lives better, even while they spam hate online.
@@phasespace4700 I'm glad you are here. I hope you mature out of your cynicism and realize there are more productive ways to use your time than spamming hate in online posts.
Love how gracefully Jordan asks the hard questions of these folks and how humbly he listens to them. He’s really wonderful to listen to no matter who he’s speaking with by making them interesting. WOW.
Well said Mark. Jordan is the best academic example in my lifetime. He elucidates all the good values that one hopes to grow up to be able to portray. Orr and Ahmed, two Cambridge blokes who are brave in their own right, are heroes, in my view, for bringing Cambridge to its senses.
I salute these professors, Dr. Arif Ahmed and Dr. James Orr, for coming on JPP and answering and discussing all the important issues they undertook. Never let "free speech" be muted, especially speech one may abhor.
You look good JP. Seeing you look more and more healthy has genuinely brought me to tears as I write this. I’m so fucking glad you’re still here, doing more for EVERYONE than anyone could ever ask of you. You’ve done more for me than I could ever properly quantize. God speed.
Jordan Please keep doing what you do. You open so many minds and basic concept points that I feel are just pushed out of media. You’ve been a huge inspiration and I’d pay to take a class with you just to finance your path. I don’t care if I have to do homework, heh
Access to a conversation like this, 24/7, free, nearly anywhere on the planet through a device that is almost universally possessed by anyone who even marginally functions in society has enormous impact on human life. I imagine the Ottowa truck drivers on the road listening to this level of discourse and formulating their opinions. It gives me hope that the average human being has more than enough intelligence, faith and reason to motivate them to stand up to the arrogance of the power elite and the weak tyrants who are manipulated by them.
I did a lesson on human rights (secondary, year 10 students in uk) and they had to pick which one they thought was most important and explain why. They chose freedom of expression (speech) because if you can’t express yourself there’s no point in being alive.
Sure. But you can speak. As long as you continue to work so you can pay your masters to be your masters. Youre a slave like we all are. But its great you can speak.
I was pleasantly surprised to see you invited back to Cambridge, free speech and freedom of choice is so important …Jordan you should speak to this Sophie Watson they’re referring to
I'm so happy that Dr. Orr brought up Professor Kathleen Stock! It's shocking what happened with her for basically standing up for women. Another wonderful conversation! Thank you to Dr. Petersen, Dr. Ahmed as well as Dr. Orr! I really hope their optimism around the free speech issue at universities is not misplaced or short lived! God bless you all!
What strikes me here is that there's not a hint of JBP taking any of it personally. He's focussed on the extremely important issue of free speech, and how it may be stifled. Admirable - the sign of a truly mature and sophisticated person.
It's so depressing that this is what you get from the discussion: "so much crap in left wing university". Cambridge isn't a left wing university and that isn't want the discussion is about.
It boggles my brain how most people don’t understand the gravity of this issue. But here we have evidence of incredible work being done by incredible people. Thanking all 3 of you and everyone working by your side for helping to hold global tyranny at bay …which is always so much closer than we think.
Thank you all three for shouldering this weighty matter that is in the balance. I’m deeply sorry for what you had to suffer but am equally proud of you all for your amazing stands. We are grateful for you.
I am not a native English language speaker and where I live there are 2 other people from non English speaking background, but we all follow professor's work and very excited every week to see a new episode. When I finished the first 12 rules for life, I landed to the other guy since he told me $18 is abit over his budget for a book. It doesn't matter wethear you are rich or poor, young or old, black or white, these conversations find their way to your heart.
Arif Ahmed is a personal hero. He was instrumental recently in stopping a change to Cambridge's speech protocols which would have restrained free speech. I wr9re to him. He replied. Wrire to these academuxs. They neex to know that we absolutely support them abd that rhwy are not alone. Abd stand up in yiur own right. As a woman i am personally standing against attempts to remove my sex from the human map. And many feminists are organsing to take the issue of biological sex on and the fate of over 50% of the human population in this regard.
Fantastic discussion. Lots of people are so scared to speak these days and it’s refreshing to see some of these ideas being challenged. My uni age kids keep telling me that many of the view points that seem so prevalent on social media currently don’t really reflect their peer’s views. These very vocal minorities appear to be doing a fantastic job of suppressing what are quite fair challenges from people who are actually reasonable and kind. We do need ways to manage this so we can keep sensible and reasonable discussion open. Well done to you for being brave enough to make a stand.
The one percent gives this minority power to do that so as to control which direction civilization should go. The sooner people realize this main point the better.
When one says "You are abusing me by expressing your opinion." I hear "Your words are causing me emotion distress.". If one was raised in a sheltered environment, where the most dangerous thing was being alone in a room with a gas stove for couple of hours, then hearing thought provoking information could certainly be viewed as abusive.
When I was young The Boy in the Bubble was a movie (kid had no immunity and lived in a 'bubble'). Today, it is 'the' manner by which children are reared and raised, long past 'maturity'. Raised inside and completely detached from nature and its power; dis-associated from human relationships, supplanted with 'technology'; and seldom, if ever, having repeated opportunities to make decisions and suffer the consequences as an individual- like making a bike ramp too steep and getting road rash. Cause and effect- natural laws. Those instances are real, not the 'theoretical' realm that seems to be the ONLY place many can currently survive in. All I know, is that if Judgement Day comes any time soon, I'm sitting in the Catbird Seat.
Unfortunately them inviting him back is the surprising part. This loud minority of cancel culture and identity politics owns the education and media systems in many countries. I do love to hear that this was reversed. This could be a reawakening of intellectual dialog and public disagreement.
"The religion of the spirit requires only unity of experience-uniformity of destiny-making full allowance for diversity of belief. The religion of the spirit requires only uniformity of insight, not uniformity of viewpoint and outlook. The religion of the spirit does not demand uniformity of intellectual views, only unity of spirit feeling." The Urantia Book, 155:6.9 Dr. Peterson, God bless you, and your family. I am grateful, grateful, grateful for your work.
the reinvite is a pretty big deal. It speaks to a degree of regained sanity in this institution and perhaps as individuals at Cambridge emboldened a courageous change there, Cambridge, itself might act as the courageous change for other institutions. Very pleased to hear this conversation. Thanks to each of you three.
Dear doctor Jordan Peterson because of your blessed kind of personality i now can resist my depression for im working hard on it and you make it possible for me. I Thank you simply out of appreciation and strong from brother Arif may allah (god) give you more strength to defend everyone’s legitimate interests in the name of humanity. Kambiz Amini from Germany 🇩🇪 Best podcast of all time
"The problem with the 'perceived harm' principle is that it conferred veto power on the most fragile person in the university" Or, less charitably, it gave ultimate power to the craziest people in the room.
An unintended but nevertheless extremely useful byproduct of JP's decision to agree to the photo-op was to reveal and publish widely the motivations, biases, and methods of academics and authorities at Cambridge.
Hi Jordan! It would be wonderful if you could get an interview with JK Rowling for your podcast. Your analysis of Harry Potter as well as your shared pro freedom of speech attitudes would make for an extremely interesting conversation.
It's funny the number of people I refer your youtube channel to who snicker and say they aren't interested in your politics. It takes me a minute to explain that you are a psychologist and philosopher, and that your views on political issues only arise in conversation for sake of psychological science and the way of the world as you understand it. Your dialogues help me challenge how I see the world. Very thankful for that.
Just saw latest video "D-I-E must die" get pulled down. Got about 10 minutes into it, before it happened. Hope this is not the beginning of a full on censorship campaign, although we know you have bravely fared through much worse. Didn't know where else to comment. I don't have a twitter account, and never will. God bless.
Seeing what has gone on in the UK gives me some hope that perhaps something similar will happen here in Canada and potentially the rest of the western world. It is so sad Jordan hasn't received the amount of acclaim and respect that he deserves within Canada. It is embarrassing to see how he has been treated by our left wing dominated media and universities.
The sheer magnitude of how much they hammered on Jordan Peterson is unfathomable. It would make any man break. It was extraordinary cruelty and now he gets to join back in the great adventure. Decades of stupendous speaking and course work and care by this man met the brick wall of young ignorance only for so many of them later to go "ooooo. I see now". Emm-hmm. They didn't just judge the whole man, they judged the pieces and then the pieces of the pieces of a man. That shattering was unworthy. I have a different style when that comes at me. It's not gracious like him. I pretty much flip the bird to it. He handled it like a champ and a diplomat on a flaming tightwire and never once lost his tongue. Unbelievable.
How things have changed. I remember in the 1970s when the words 'student protest' was common parlance. When I went to university in the 1990s I saw with my own eyes how dictatorial the education system was. There was (is) no room for public debate and the expectation was that you didn't question the tutors to come to a common consensus. The idea was that if you wanted good grades, you didn't voice your opinions or theories, let alone discuss them. The theme was to regurgitate exactly what you were told as verbatim as possible to allow you to pass your exams
First, I’d like to thank you for all the podcasts and talks. Second, I wonder if would be possible to invite Thomas Sowell or Niall Ferguson… I’m convinced that would be an absolutely exquisite conversation.
When the people at our top institutions for the generation and guarding of knowledge are labelled as "brave" just for stating facts, our society is desperately ill. Perhaps even terminally so. Well done gents in fighting back. This is a rare instance of ground being made in the other direction.
That was quite something. Well done Drs Ahmed and Orr. The coalition of groups in support of free speech at Cambridge sound like the unlikely coalitions that find themselves fighting side by side in Prof Tolkein's great book. I imagine he and Prof. Lewis would be most pleased at this turn of events and sharpening their pencils to discuss the matters at hand.
Well I like how he continues to address the free speech issue since that is first caught my attention with bill C 16. For all the explanations about hierarchy structures look at what the privileged few at the top do with their power and it's no wonder there is so much resentment and inequality in society. Then the poor are like crabs in a bucket climbing over each other because they feel powerless and are at the mercy of a few wealthy prestigious folks who may not even be qualified for their positions.
@@GentleGiant1969 I beg to differ. It would be better to describe Peterson as a great synthesizer of the thought of great thinkers. "Certain authors, speaking of their works, say, 'my book', 'my commentary', 'my history', etc. They resemble middle-class people who have a house of their own, and always have 'my house' on their tongue. They would be better to say, 'our book', 'our commentary', 'our history', etc., because there is in them usually more of other people's than their own." (Pascal, Pensees, 43) To his great credit, this is what Peterson always does.
Mr. Ahmed I have never heard off you, but I respect you. You seem like an integer and competent man. I fear that these traits will be dangerous for your long term career. Edit: Mr. Orr you were great too, to be able to stand back and let others speak shows of great personality.
As a student at the University of Cambridge, it was crazy seeing the amount of support Jordan got for his talk at the union recently - with over a thousand people queueing upwards of 4 hours for the chance to see him in a venue with a maximum capacity of 400. It's jaw dropping that the overwhelming support for this man was ignored by the University, which instead chose to listen to a minority of people who opposed his visit, on the ridiculous grounds of a photo.
I’d be interested to know if at Cambridge, in the Humanities and social Sciences if an overwhelming majority of professors are also far left or left leaning indoctrination fanatics like they are in North American universities. Any insights?
@@MarkMark-xz4ff are they really like that in US uni’s??
@@kylehardy2235 most professors in europe are left leaning, from what i have come across atleast.
Reassuring to know that people in our elite institutions aren't all brainless drones.
@@gokkul674 I only went an hour early because I thought students would try to boycott the talk, but I was very wrong
I'm glad that Dr. PETERSON has been invited back to Cambridge. He has handled this insult with absolute class and dignity coming through it all looking superior to Cambridge on all accounts.
I'm not sure it's helpful to look at any of this in terms of superiority on one side or the other.
@@BULLTRONHERO Pretty sure it is
@@LeeGee How so?
@Rhett Burgess Did you listen to the conversation? If you did, you seemed to have missed the point of the discussion in it’s entirety.
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Thank you Dr. Jordan Peterson for your selfless service to all human beings even through your own personal health struggles. You are a tremendous blessing to this world!
Couldn't agree more
Selfless service? Who do you think the most part of those $340 tickets for his shows goes to? You think all the income from his book sales goes to charity? LMAO
@@vetzaaak If he became the richest man in the world, then the world would be a better place. He gets it right.
@@dellaethington9373 I fail to see how his wealth would contribute to a "better world".
I just see a lot of insecure white men simping for a guru who likes to answer simple questions with big words and imo has some questionable opinions on climate change ("don't bother doing anything, it's too complicated"), economics (darwinism, basically) and sexism ("doesn't exist").
To each their own though. Peace.
Absolutely, couldn't agree more!
The recognition of “soft, cuddly totalitarianism” reminded me of J.K. Rowlings’ brilliant illustration of such a figure in the character of Hogwarts Defence Against the Dark Arts teacher, and Ministry of Magic employee, Professor Dolores Umbridge. J.K. writes it like she sees it. And thank goodness for that!
We need a Fred and George.
@@JohnDoe-do8fh free spirited populists haha
Brilliant!
I always have think of Umbridge too, and all her kitty pictures!
AOC always reminds me of Professor Umbridge
Arif Ahmed you're a hero. If you do nothing else in your life you've been of service to the culture, thank you. Edit: that whole talk should be a template for all serious conversations. Facetiously, I wonder if Professor Gopal would discuss these matters with Professors Ahmed and Peterson sometime? I'm sure the audience would be huge and interested in what she had to say.
Jordan, you are a genius. You are also the patron saint of interruption. Allow others to finish their thoughts before sharing your brilliant insight. It's a win win. If you are going to assume others have something to say that we all might learn from, then let them say it.
Alright these ppl aren’t gods so chill with the worshipping 😂, but yeah freedom of speech is a nice thing so thanx… especially coming from someone in university in the uk
Are you American? Because the only people I hear over use the word “Hero”, “Freedom” etc are Americans. So are you?
@@MohamedShou No I'm British, one of the reasons why this mattered so much to me. Hope you're well.
There doing this DIE crap at my work, me being a white male I identified as non- binary to protect my self from the far left HR police.
My digital Dad just dropped another pearl. Excited to dig into this one. Love you, JP!
Digital dad 🤣
Can I buy his NFT???
Our digital dad lol
@@Jerkasaur We're the foster children of the internet and Dr. Peterson has unknowingly adopted us all :-)
Love the term...brilliant.
Thank God Cambridge is regaining its sanity. My son quoted Voltaire (or Evelyn - you know what I'm talking about) "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it" in a position paper and the teacher wrote "nah" on the paper! This is Canada. This is junior high.
Absolute insanity!!!
That's such a shame
'Nah'?!
Has there been any follow-up to this?!
I hope you took this up with the school and fought. Bravo to your daughter for understanding the importance of free speech.
*"Incredible change happens in your life when you decide to take control of what you have power over instead of craving control over what you don't." - Steve Maraboli*
I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do. I am free, no matter what rules surround me. If I find them tolerable, I tolerate them; if I find them too obnoxious, I break them. I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do. -- Robert A. Heinlein
Check out Rene Girard’s mimetic desire.
Accountability is for behavior. Genetics shouldn’t reap credit nor shame. Some who crave control are wanting to undermine accountability itself, holding people responsible for the behavior of others.
If I wasn’t directly involved, it wasn’t my behavior. I made no choice. If I wasn’t yet born, this is even simpler. Hold me not accountable for my genetics nor the behavior of others, as neither deserves credit nor blame.
Words and actions, by others, give me neither pride nor shame. My DNA, determined prior to birth, is no source for pride nor shame.
THESE AREN’T MY ACCOMPLISHMENTS. ⚖️🇺🇸
Evil people crave control over what belongs to Mother Nature. Good people crave to master what natures gives them.
We all rush to the comments every time to thank this man. So cool to see. He’s blessing us this week, LONG LIVE THE LOBSTER KING
queue the haters, eh?
Hell yeah!
Which is cult like behaviour.
I'm here to stimulate my mind, you're here as are the majority in the comments to worship.
Every time Jordan is moved to tears I feel so much warmth for this man who is so genuine and tries to hard to be honest and good. God bless you guys. Waiting excitedly for the new lectures!!!!
@@phasespace4700 You really got nothing better to do than actively waiting for and watching the videos of a man you apparently hate, and then scroll through all the comments and use every opportunity you see to reveal to the world how much you hate this man?
Thank you Mr. Peterson for all your guidance that has lead me to a better life and self!
So, it’s Monday night and I come home from a long day of work. What am I to do? Watch a movie on Netflix? It’s like, NO! Jordan has released a new podcast. So sit down and learn something! And that’s THAT! ♥️
@@phasespace4700 Hey, buddy. Have you tried the all meat diet? Seems like you consume nothing but resentment and anger. I know, why don’t you actually watch one of his lectures? You need all the help you can get, but you already know that. Peace be with you!
@@phasespace4700 I did! It was much easier than your mother getting you out of her basement 😃
@@phasespace4700 , you are a fool.
@@MightyChoctaw ad hominems are not arguments. Tsek jou Naai.
@@phasespace4700 Funnily enough, advances in the antediluvian historical sciences has increased the likelyhood of this tremendously. Can you imagine what the Atlanteans had?
Disagreement is Not oppression, argument is not assault. Words-even repugnant ones are not violence. The answer to speech we do not like, is not less speech it's more speech.
Douglas Murray
So as what would you qualify Peterson's lawsuit against a university concerning a private conversation where opinions were expressed he did not like?
@@twntwrs JP is against compelled speech. He has never expressed problems with opposing opinions. He does disagree with people trying to block voices, by force or law. I cannot give you an accurate opinion without more information. What university? What was the lawsuit about? Did it even affect him personally? Were they talking about silencing voices on campus? Was it about bill c-16? Was the conversation you noted even relevant to the lawsuit. The question you stated is inadequate.
This shouldn't need pointing out. Indeed it doesn't. Look up James Lynsay, he's pretty clear and rather special. This is a political agenda masquerading as a culturally benign social movement, its not.
@@OccamsRazor393 I'm referring to Peterson's $1.5-million lawsuit against Laurier university and three individuals for defamation. In a private conversation the opinion was expressed that he is racist, sexist, misogynist and dangerous. An opinion that I not only happen to disagree with but can also see intellectual dishonesty behind. However, I think the irony of precisely a freedom of speech warrior in the midst of a freedom of speech battle launching *this* particular lawsuit is too rich to let go by unremarked.
@@phasespace4700 That was balanced. Ideological possession as Professor Peterson might say.
Thank you Dr. Peterson for hosting this discussion!
I still remember how excited I was over ethics and moral subject on my first year in medical school. I went and bought four different books on top of the one from my professor. Every discussion and each subject in his book was his one sided opinion. I couldn't make myself to accept it, even regardin the parts that I actually had a similar points of view with him. So on my final exam, all my essay answers were the exact opposite of what he was professing. I ended up with lowest passing grade (the majority were very high grades and no one was failed). I don't regret it to this day and still hold a grudge on how we were basically silenced and spoon feed someones explicit opinion on fundamental matters of life and death.
Thank you Sir Peterson for speaking for people like me!!🙏❤️🙏❤️
I really hope people realize just how important Jordan B. Peterson is to today's world!
Agreed
@@phasespace4700 rent free.
@@phasespace4700 wow unless you can back up those claims they are highly untrue and do not hold water. A very tired sentimate from the left and one that has been defeated countless times.
This.
To DR. PETERSON i started to watch your video last year. Everytime i feel worthless and alone i go back here to listen to you. Please dont stop what youre doing you are like a father that i never had .
Greetings from asia.(hong kong)
You aren't alone in feeling that way about Dr. P
I have similar feeling whom associated with HK but living in Canada
A few gems that resonated for me were:
45:45 'There's no such thing as a joke that isn't a micro aggression'
47:35 'Compassion is devouring. An excess of compassion is a vice'
47:43 A 'serious conversation about female totalitarianism' (48:08 aka 'soft totalitarianism') is 'long overdue'
47:57 'Totalitarianism of compassion is no joke'
Take aways: over-sensitive people need to develop skin thick enough to take a joke, and toxic idea pathogens need some vitamin D - discernment, dissection and dismissal. And:
58:43 'The process is the punishment' - a great point related to having your name dragged through the mud, etc.
Terrific work fellas. Wonderful conversation. All the efforts past and continued are greatly appreciated.
thanks!😀
"Female totalitarianism'" I struggled to put this thought in to words. Such a relief to be able to express it now.
Thank you for this comment!! And summing it up 👍
I see the issue with females in power everywhere.
Females are fantastic. But being leaders with a mind that uses emotion to make decisions isnt a trait that is desirable for a leader.
Theres a reason kings and great thinkers and leaders were never women. Its not because they arent necessary, beautiful and amazing creatures.
Its because leaders think with logic not emotion.
Just look at female cops.
They are either called quota hires because they are only hired because the departments have to hire them to meet quotas.
They rule with an iron opinion.
If you cross them youll go to jail. Despite the law.
Like pulling out the points I would push back on. Intent vs outcome. Compassion is a topic I would urge Dr. Peterson to think more on.
I felt shame for my country's highest learning institutions upon hearing that Dr Peterson had been uninvited for ideological reasons. I'm glad that they've rectified their mistake.
@@phasespace4700 Tell everyone you know nothing without saying it.
@@phasespace4700 The fact that your blood is boiling demonstrates how Dr Peterson's intellect, articulacy & profile strikes the fear of God into you & your dogmatic chums in the Dark Triad.
Now, do run along! I'm sure you have some compassion to weaponise on Twitter, or something?! 😁
Bravo. hopefully this is a sign of pushback against this type of lunacy, both within education but also greater society.
There's still ubiquitous acquiescence in all areas of society due to a desire for an "easy life." For example, who really believes that all large corporation's CEOs are fully behind Marxist organisation, BLM?! No, they just want to avoid awkward publicity, controversy...& being targeted by the sanctimonious & vitriolic Twitterati woke mob.
Thank you James and Arif, especially Arif, taking a stand on something as important as free speech is greatly appreciated.
Thank you god for the return of Jordan' s strength and health at a time Canada needs you so badly, my arms are raised and tears in my eyes .for our children.
Jordan, I've been trying to comment on some of your videos for the past few days with absolutely no success. (Something/someone's erasing them almost immediately.)
It may have to do with the subject I've been trying to communicate. (The story of the hell I've been through here in Argentina, related to all this Orwellian-type nonsense we're living in.)
Has anyone else experienced the same thing happen?
@@janaenae1338 Can't seem to understand what you're trying to say. Could you be a little more specific?
@Aunt Jemima's Revenge It appears to be automatic and without a single warning. It even disappears from Google's activity history. Can't say I'm surprised tho.
The fascist google is very active
I would absolutely love to see Dr. Peterson lecture on Exodus. The Genesis lectures were so riveting and amazing.
Neither Genesis nor Exodus actually happened even though Peterson won't admit it since he needs to keep his godbothering clientele under the illusion that he believes they did or they will abandon him.
@@twntwrs why you assume things and judge on your assumptions.
The title itself says "Psychological Significance Of Biblical Stories"
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Lucky you were there 4000 years ago and know all the details. Btw, JP talk about the PSYCHOLOGICAL SIGNIFICANCE, not the historical or religous significance
Not until now have 40 years in the desert been something to look forward to
The most important idea I got from this podcast was James Orr explaining the spiral of silence. This is a crucial topic and it is of the utmost importance that as many people find out about as possible because this is what has happened and is happening ever more rapidly to western society. It's probably the single most important anti-woke idea.
@@phasespace4700 You’ve posted nearly 200 comments on this channel. The only person who can’t seem to shut up here is you.
@@allisonanne571 There are a few like phasespace (and all the Jerry Greene accounts) who spam the comments with their cynicism, but eventually they seem to stop and start paying attention. I don't enjoy reading their crass posts, but if I had to pick a channel for the nihilists and cynics to hate follow, it would probably be JBP :). Some of them must be improving and treating the other people in their lives better, even while they spam hate online.
@@phasespace4700 I'm glad you are here. I hope you mature out of your cynicism and realize there are more productive ways to use your time than spamming hate in online posts.
Love how gracefully Jordan asks the hard questions of these folks and how humbly he listens to them. He’s really wonderful to listen to no matter who he’s speaking with by making them interesting. WOW.
Well said Mark. Jordan is the best academic example in my lifetime. He elucidates all the good values that one hopes to grow up to be able to portray. Orr and Ahmed, two Cambridge blokes who are brave in their own right, are heroes, in my view, for bringing Cambridge to its senses.
Recording freezes at 1:06:21, unintentionally capturing Arif as the best Zoolander impression I've seen in years.
weirdly it happens on my laptop but not my ipad
I salute these professors, Dr. Arif Ahmed and Dr. James Orr, for coming on JPP and answering and discussing all the important issues they undertook.
Never let "free speech" be muted, especially speech one may abhor.
You look good JP. Seeing you look more and more healthy has genuinely brought me to tears as I write this. I’m so fucking glad you’re still here, doing more for EVERYONE than anyone could ever ask of you. You’ve done more for me than I could ever properly quantize. God speed.
Normally I never watch videos longer than an hour or so... But somehow Dr. Peterson manages to make it a great experience
Double time JBP
Jordan
Please keep doing what you do.
You open so many minds and basic concept points that I feel are just pushed out of media.
You’ve been a huge inspiration and I’d pay to take a class with you just to finance your path. I don’t care if I have to do homework, heh
Access to a conversation like this, 24/7, free, nearly anywhere on the planet through a device that is almost universally possessed by anyone who even marginally functions in society has enormous impact on human life. I imagine the Ottowa truck drivers on the road listening to this level of discourse and formulating their opinions. It gives me hope that the average human being has more than enough intelligence, faith and reason to motivate them to stand up to the arrogance of the power elite and the weak tyrants who are manipulated by them.
I did a lesson on human rights (secondary, year 10 students in uk) and they had to pick which one they thought was most important and explain why. They chose freedom of expression (speech) because if you can’t express yourself there’s no point in being alive.
Sure. But you can speak. As long as you continue to work so you can pay your masters to be your masters.
Youre a slave like we all are.
But its great you can speak.
I'd chose "right to life", because all the other types of human rights hinge on that single right.
I was pleasantly surprised to see you invited back to Cambridge, free speech and freedom of choice is so important …Jordan you should speak to this Sophie Watson they’re referring to
I'm so happy that Dr. Orr brought up Professor Kathleen Stock! It's shocking what happened with her for basically standing up for women. Another wonderful conversation! Thank you to Dr. Petersen, Dr. Ahmed as well as Dr. Orr! I really hope their optimism around the free speech issue at universities is not misplaced or short lived! God bless you all!
How is active discrimination "standing up for women"?
I hope the lecture will be recorded and posted on TH-cam.
Arif Ahmed and all that refused to step aside BRAVO !
This man did not just say "cuddly totalitarianism" 😂🤣😂🤣
J.P. is a treasure, I am so glad he is back on his feet.
What strikes me here is that there's not a hint of JBP taking any of it personally. He's focussed on the extremely important issue of free speech, and how it may be stifled. Admirable - the sign of a truly mature and sophisticated person.
Thank you Dr Peterson for making me (and helping me) think
Great to see your optimism. We can do this.
Congratulations on the achievement of the amendments, on making a difference, on persevering in the face of adversity and on this conversation
I could listen to Jordon Peterson all day, so much crap around in left winged universities! Thank you
Me too!! I love him and I don’t even know him. He is a light in so much darkness.
It's so depressing that this is what you get from the discussion: "so much crap in left wing university". Cambridge isn't a left wing university and that isn't want the discussion is about.
Thanks James, Arif and Jordan!
I love your honesty. I love your humility. I love your questions and deep thinking. Just love you!
It boggles my brain how most people don’t understand the gravity of this issue. But here we have evidence of incredible work being done by incredible people. Thanking all 3 of you and everyone working by your side for helping to hold global tyranny at bay …which is always so much closer than we think.
Thank you all three for shouldering this weighty matter that is in the balance. I’m deeply sorry for what you had to suffer but am equally proud of you all for your amazing stands. We are grateful for you.
I am not a native English language speaker and where I live there are 2 other people from non English speaking background, but we all follow professor's work and very excited every week to see a new episode. When I finished the first 12 rules for life, I landed to the other guy since he told me $18 is abit over his budget for a book. It doesn't matter wethear you are rich or poor, young or old, black or white, these conversations find their way to your heart.
Arif Ahmed is a personal hero. He was instrumental recently in stopping a change to Cambridge's speech protocols which would have restrained free speech. I wr9re to him. He replied. Wrire to these academuxs. They neex to know that we absolutely support them abd that rhwy are not alone.
Abd stand up in yiur own right. As a woman i am personally standing against attempts to remove my sex from the human map. And many feminists are organsing to take the issue of biological sex on and the fate of over 50% of the human population in this regard.
apologies for typos
@@advocate1563 Don't you know that an apology isn't enough? : )
"academuxs"
Hope you don't mind but I am actually going to save this word for something. It's just sounds cool.
Well done you. I am with you on this as a woman. Very imaginative typos especially the 'academuxs'.:)
@@andrefilipe9042 an intellectual who likes mud wrestling perhaps?
'Educating the mind without educating the heart, is no education at all' - Aristotle
To silence words of wise
is to slay the gods of reason,
and to challenge darkened minds
sees the prophet hung for treason.
The Phoenix is rising. Hallelujah. Truth is Great!
"When your afraid of doing something, you're only afraid of it because your not afraid enough of not doing it" POGGERS quote there
Dr. Peterson is a shining, guiding light in a future world of 'unknown'.
Fantastic discussion. Lots of people are so scared to speak these days and it’s refreshing to see some of these ideas being challenged. My uni age kids keep telling me that many of the view points that seem so prevalent on social media currently don’t really reflect their peer’s views. These very vocal minorities appear to be doing a fantastic job of suppressing what are quite fair challenges from people who are actually reasonable and kind. We do need ways to manage this so we can keep sensible and reasonable discussion open. Well done to you for being brave enough to make a stand.
The one percent gives this minority power to do that so as to control which direction civilization should go. The sooner people realize this main point the better.
Thank you for all you do!
This is wonderful to see and to hear! ♥️
So much respect to you sir Peterson, from Belgium.
The in-comfortableness of Mr Orr's speech is palatable.
Eh?
Thank you to three strong men!
When one says "You are abusing me by expressing your opinion." I hear "Your words are causing me emotion distress.". If one was raised in a sheltered environment, where the most dangerous thing was being alone in a room with a gas stove for couple of hours, then hearing thought provoking information could certainly be viewed as abusive.
When I was young The Boy in the Bubble was a movie (kid had no immunity and lived in a 'bubble'). Today, it is 'the' manner by which children are reared and raised, long past 'maturity'. Raised inside and completely detached from nature and its power; dis-associated from human relationships, supplanted with 'technology'; and seldom, if ever, having repeated opportunities to make decisions and suffer the consequences as an individual- like making a bike ramp too steep and getting road rash. Cause and effect- natural laws. Those instances are real, not the 'theoretical' realm that seems to be the ONLY place many can currently survive in. All I know, is that if Judgement Day comes any time soon, I'm sitting in the Catbird Seat.
I feel physically sick when I think of how JP was treated back then. Some of my ancestors were turning in their graves. Come on Cambridge!!!
Unfortunately them inviting him back is the surprising part. This loud minority of cancel culture and identity politics owns the education and media systems in many countries.
I do love to hear that this was reversed. This could be a reawakening of intellectual dialog and public disagreement.
@@craigape I do believe the tide is beginning to turn. Sincerely hope so anyway.
"The religion of the spirit requires only unity of experience-uniformity of destiny-making full allowance for diversity of belief. The religion of the spirit requires only uniformity of insight, not uniformity of viewpoint and outlook. The religion of the spirit does not demand uniformity of intellectual views, only unity of spirit feeling." The Urantia Book, 155:6.9
Dr. Peterson, God bless you, and your family. I am grateful, grateful, grateful for your work.
the opening statement is so powerful to current problems.
Freedom of speech 🗣 = freedom of thought 💭
Thank you jordan we appreciate your selfless work
Thank you for speaking truth!
the reinvite is a pretty big deal. It speaks to a degree of regained sanity in this institution and perhaps as individuals at Cambridge emboldened a courageous change there, Cambridge, itself might act as the courageous change for other institutions. Very pleased to hear this conversation. Thanks to each of you three.
Dear doctor Jordan Peterson because of your blessed kind of personality i now can resist my depression for im working hard on it and you make it possible for me. I Thank you simply out of appreciation and strong from brother Arif may allah (god) give you more strength to defend everyone’s legitimate interests in the name of humanity. Kambiz Amini from Germany 🇩🇪
Best podcast of all time
"The problem with the 'perceived harm' principle is that it conferred veto power on the most fragile person in the university"
Or, less charitably, it gave ultimate power to the craziest people in the room.
That was exactly my conclusion..... let the weak lead the way? Include them, encourage them to keep up but lead? No thanks.
An unintended but nevertheless extremely useful byproduct of JP's decision to agree to the photo-op was to reveal and publish widely the motivations, biases, and methods of academics and authorities at Cambridge.
I LOVE you dr. JORDAN BLING PETERSON. I listened to every video on your channel. Keep up the GREAT work...
Hi Jordan! It would be wonderful if you could get an interview with JK Rowling for your podcast. Your analysis of Harry Potter as well as your shared pro freedom of speech attitudes would make for an extremely interesting conversation.
It will be amazing to listen to any conversation between JK Rowling and Dr Peterson!
I really like the new thumbnails on this channel. Amazing.
It's funny the number of people I refer your youtube channel to who snicker and say they aren't interested in your politics.
It takes me a minute to explain that you are a psychologist and philosopher, and that your views on political issues only arise in conversation for sake of psychological science and the way of the world as you understand it.
Your dialogues help me challenge how I see the world. Very thankful for that.
Jordan Peterson turns the other cheek. You're a hero and legend Dr. Peterson
Just saw latest video "D-I-E must die" get pulled down. Got about 10 minutes into it, before it happened. Hope this is not the beginning of a full on censorship campaign, although we know you have bravely fared through much worse. Didn't know where else to comment. I don't have a twitter account, and never will. God bless.
This was a fascinating talk. Thanks to all three for being willing to let us in on the conversation
Seeing what has gone on in the UK gives me some hope that perhaps something similar will happen here in Canada and potentially the rest of the western world. It is so sad Jordan hasn't received the amount of acclaim and respect that he deserves within Canada. It is embarrassing to see how he has been treated by our left wing dominated media and universities.
Dr Peterson is a breath of fresh air in this world where the hunger games society is taking over the everyday life.
The sheer magnitude of how much they hammered on Jordan Peterson is unfathomable. It would make any man break. It was extraordinary cruelty and now he gets to join back in the great adventure. Decades of stupendous speaking and course work and care by this man met the brick wall of young ignorance only for so many of them later to go "ooooo. I see now". Emm-hmm.
They didn't just judge the whole man, they judged the pieces and then the pieces of the pieces of a man. That shattering was unworthy.
I have a different style when that comes at me. It's not gracious like him. I pretty much flip the bird to it. He handled it like a champ and a diplomat on a flaming tightwire and never once lost his tongue. Unbelievable.
❄️recorded back in October…please, keep the conversations coming❄️
I love "On Certainty" one of my favorite philosophical works!
Good discussion gentlemen, Thank you.
The great man is on fire 🔥 with some great content this past week
Wonderful interview! Thank you. Very insightful, this is everywhere and needs to be clarified, and really resisted.
How things have changed. I remember in the 1970s when the words 'student protest' was common parlance. When I went to university in the 1990s I saw with my own eyes how dictatorial the education system was. There was (is) no room for public debate and the expectation was that you didn't question the tutors to come to a common consensus. The idea was that if you wanted good grades, you didn't voice your opinions or theories, let alone discuss them. The theme was to regurgitate exactly what you were told as verbatim as possible to allow you to pass your exams
💙 a conversation I needed and getting.
First, I’d like to thank you for all the podcasts and talks. Second, I wonder if would be possible to invite Thomas Sowell or Niall Ferguson… I’m convinced that would be an absolutely exquisite conversation.
We just have to be courageous at this point. Every one of us.
Thanks for the discussion.
When the people at our top institutions for the generation and guarding of knowledge are labelled as "brave" just for stating facts, our society is desperately ill. Perhaps even terminally so. Well done gents in fighting back. This is a rare instance of ground being made in the other direction.
That was quite something. Well done Drs Ahmed and Orr. The coalition of groups in support of free speech at Cambridge sound like the unlikely coalitions that find themselves fighting side by side in Prof Tolkein's great book. I imagine he and Prof. Lewis would be most pleased at this turn of events and sharpening their pencils to discuss the matters at hand.
Well I like how he continues to address the free speech issue since that is first caught my attention with bill C 16. For all the explanations about hierarchy structures look at what the privileged few at the top do with their power and it's no wonder there is so much resentment and inequality in society. Then the poor are like crabs in a bucket climbing over each other because they feel powerless and are at the mercy of a few wealthy prestigious folks who may not even be qualified for their positions.
He's back!
I love James Orr.
JBP is one of the greatest thinkers of the 21st century
Amen!🙏❤️
@@GentleGiant1969 I beg to differ. It would be better to describe Peterson as a great synthesizer of the thought of great thinkers.
"Certain authors, speaking of their works, say, 'my book', 'my commentary', 'my history', etc. They resemble middle-class people who have a house of their own, and always have 'my house' on their tongue. They would be better to say, 'our book', 'our commentary', 'our history', etc., because there is in them usually more of other people's than their own." (Pascal, Pensees, 43)
To his great credit, this is what Peterson always does.
Jordan, at 1:06:22 the video freezes until 1:19:30. At least for me. Thank you for all you do.
for me it keeps playing but the sound goes away.
The most important man of our times.
Mr. Ahmed I have never heard off you, but I respect you. You seem like an integer and competent man. I fear that these traits will be dangerous for your long term career.
Edit: Mr. Orr you were great too, to be able to stand back and let others speak shows of great personality.