My husband and I broke ground in January and are hoping to be done building in 60 days (located in Orange, CA). It's been quite ... a revealing experience!
don't let all the negative people scare you, everything will be fine. before you know it the Adu will be built. Just keep your chin up and stay positive.
I did my Adu garage conversation in 2021 for 80k. I did the electrical so that saved me a few thousand. I am located in pomona CA. Los angeles county. It took me about 7 months from architect to final inspection.
Great episode getting different perspectives. This is true journalism. No spin. Just sharing information from all sides and letting the consumer come up with their own opinions on a subject.
I always enjoy your content. Especially because I live in California and I don’t always know what issues we are facing. It keeps your viewer’s abreast. Thanks so much!😊
Sounds like a good idea however the obvious problem is if everyone in the neighborhood adds ADU’s then the density of a once quiet single family neighborhood is affected.
@@carlososcarcomedy Places are noisy due to car centered infrastructure, not density. If you make neighborhoods denser and allow a mix of small businesses and homes within the same zoning district, it will (eventually) lead to the development of trains and encourage people to use modes of transportation beyond noisy cars.
@@Null_Simplex Obviously you don't live in downtown area where parking is a huge issue. You go to any downtown area in California and insufficient parking is a huge issue. Nobody takes the bus that owns a car. It'll just lead to single-family neighborhoods not having enough on-street parking for everyone.
@@kendallisciousharrisonford8253And the neighborhood where my sister’s last landlord built an ADU in the yard requires people to move for street sweeping. It’s going to cause problems lol
@@bigdoggaming7438 Buy a drain auger and go out on your own, you'll quadruple that easily. If you will do after hours and emergency work, double that. Most emergency work either pays well in short time or its something you can subcontract and take a cut after dealing with the emergency part.
I live in San Diego and the rent for these ADUs is super high and many don’t have a proper kitchen or living area yet can be $2k/month and street parking only.
@@AmericanDuck yep, I don’t like it at all. I’m getting a backyard studio but without any bath/kitchen. Just to add an office. People are finding ways to afford to live here but honestly I am not about lower my standards of living. I rather just live the country at this point.
Do you know about what has happened in Clairemont Mesa? Local developer SDRE, 38 y/o owner Christian Spicer. He builds for profit, not to house grandma/grandpa and save old folks from the poor house. Ruining single family home neighborhoods with 12+-unit apartment buildings cleverly labeled ADUs (because there's a house in front of the units). Firestone Ave: 12 ADUs already built, behind a small house. And SDRE has purchased the home next door. So expect another development. Jicarillo Ave: 12 ADUs, in the process of being built, behind a small house (that's being modified to contain a JADU). Shoshoni Ave: 12 ADUs to be built, behind a small house (on a tiny cul-de-sac). Parking is not a requirement for ADUs within 1 mile of transit. No off street parking is provided.
@crowmob-yo6ry you do you, buddy. The rest of us cowards have lives that require a car. I challenge you to get from Rancho Bernardo to somewhere like Ocean Beach using mass transit. You’ll find just how not superior that plan is. 43 minutes versus 3hrs and 7 minutes. Imagine spending over six hours on buses to go there. My daughter uses a bus and train to go to college. Her first week she had to avoid a attempted murder and a tweaker that tried to follow her.
Man you guys are on top of the hit topics. I was looking into building an ADU on our property and this video gave me a lot of insight on where to begin. We have a 3bed 2bath and a big backyard to expand on and to see others doing it gives me a goal to work for.
250k to 325k to build is insane. That's an entire home build. Plus your property tax and insurance goes up. Will take you at least 10+ years to recoup that amount.
No. That becomes part of the value of the property which you can realize immediately should you sell the property. Most people put a construction loan since it will be likely a stable income producing asset. They only put up 20% usually. So long as your rent higher than the monthly loan payments with a margin of safety you should be fine. Plus there is depreciation for accounting and inflation will work with you as time goes by (rent goes up, but loan amortization is constant). You also get all equity from appreciation (if any). And if its a stupid investment, then the renter will be "subsidized" or the next property owner.
The average house in the San Francisco Bay Area is $1.25 million. There are many high paying tech jobs that have driven up the cost of housing, while other workers are struggling - especially low wage service workers.
I built one 800 sqft completed last year. It was the best thing we ever did. And we have great tenants who able to rent cheaper than apartment and love that they enjoy the place.
My ADU in long beach Naples island above my garage is awesome and the rent collected pays my mortgage, otherwise I could not afford to live here, and my tenants over the years are great people..
I live in an ADU in n Turlock, California. I am not working and receiving SSI. I would not be able to live in California if it were not for ADU buildings. I think ADU is a good option to meet the affordable housing demand.
"If it's done responsibly" - Most of the developers literally do not care at all. 1 in 100 maybe. They're absentee landlords that put anyone in the place to rent.
Great video on the current ADU situation in California. We're seeing a boom in San Diego. Mostly homeowners with aging family that want to keep parents close.
Clairemont Mesa. Developer SDRE. Owner Christian Spicer. Not for old folks. He builds for profit. Ruining neighborhoods: Firestone Ave: 12 ADUs already built, behind a small house. Jicarilla Ave: 12 ADUs, in the process of being built, behind a small house. Shoshoni Ave: 12 ADUs to be built behind a small house.
“Most folks care about their neighborhood” this is true but the problem is many ‘Homeowners’ in CA do not actually live in their properties. Thus, they have no connection to their neighbors & their wishes.
In New York City, the rental market has been skewed outrageously by billionaires who buy apartments/condos for investment (or escape from future turmoil on their home countries), and NEVER LIVE in them, all the whole pushing 'what the market will bear' rents into the stratosphere.
@@hotmess9640 tax tax tax. Remember, inflation is a form of tax. You can't forget about the greed as well. In the end, it's just bad politics, and the irs, hedgefunds such as blackrock owned companies. No government body is protecting us from this corruption. We have to take care of ourselves.
Damn. Feels like I was cursed with youth. That’s about 4 years of my rent. Average home is about 800k in my town and that’s to live near murderers. My mother’s home is 700k and you can’t walk around safely.
@@hotmess9640 I hear you. That's why all my kids moved out of state. It's a funky house. Small, but lots of land & critters. My daughter calls it a fixer upper. It's got quitks and surprises. Look for a funky place. A bit away from town. For sale by owner. That's how we got this place.
Enjoyed this content immensely, understanding the ADU situation. I too had thought to do something like this, but I changed my mind, too many cars, no privacy from those living right behind you. I enjoy my backyard because it’s part of my living space as well. I enjoy evenings by the fire-pit and I have a pool for my 4 year old grandson and a couple of picnic tables with a nice barbecue pit for family gatherings. You do give up a lot unless you live out in the countryside with some acreage. But I did see all sides of this type of builds. Thank you for bringing this information to your viewers. 🙏😎
Uh, if you want privacy, you can keep it un-rented, but building one seems like a no-brainer, as it makes the house much more appealing to someone with an elderly parent, who would live in the ADU and still keep a modicum of their previous life, instead of moving into assisted living.
So, does California no longer require a garage or a car port? I remember converting our garage just by adding a wall, and we were required to tear it out when we sold it because you could not sell a house without a garage. That was 1994.
This state already sucked with every house packed and people renting out rooms, now they want to stuff even more people in the same amount of space? insane.
Thank you for the multi view perspectives. Minimum setback of 4' is also a concern. We have noted up to six vans and pickups from an ADU and home remodel project. That is a local street parking congestion problem. This topic is a knee-jerk reaction from Sacramento and needs to have hearing to air these issues for improvement. You are a part of the issue airing process. Good job.
Thank you for sharing this it is something that needed to be brought up and that has been under the radar for quite some time I'm a resident here in the Salinas Valley and there are so many homes that have converted into smaller homes or rooms from the original home and they rent out to gain profit some in need because they can't pay their mortgage and some just see a money game from it it's predominantly the farming community's here in south Monterey County predominantly I understand it benefits the homeowner profit off this but it causes a congestion in its Community from parking the census that needs to be established annually and are these tenants being processed and are the applications being verified the concern to some is do some of these tenants have criminal records that cause concern in the communities that these ADU tenants are living ......... And most importantly are these homeowners providing the proper tax information during tax season to pay the property taxes and other taxes that come involved with renting just my opinion and what I see in the community thank you
I have zero issue with parents trying to take care of their kids or for additional living space / a guest house. My problem is with home owners , who don’t actually live in their home and build a 1000+ sqft ADU and go through their final inspection , only to put up additional walls and cut in doors. Now that single home turns into 3 apartments. Yes this is actually happening and these greedy “ investors “ would never have this in their actual neighborhood. And just like electric vehicles and solar power, California will eventually figure out how charge way more properly taxes on ADUs when they see enough people making money on them.
This is happening in my neighborhood. The home next to my parents house built a 6 bed 4 bath home and rent out each bedroom, which was designed with two separated entrances and and outdoor stairs for tenants to go their rooms. it has created a problem with parking on the street and privacy because we have have 3 huge windows looking down on the backyard.
Depending on the community, it is turning into 19th century tenement buildings. That is the reality. No parking. No space. Angry people. And they are also very expensive. It completely defeated the purpose of affordable housing.
I totally understand why some neighbors would be mad with this and go NIMBY. This was a great idea in theory, and still could work as long as there is conditions met. The city should force people to expand their driveways or have parking on the property if they’re renting it out. Also making sure renters on those properties aren’t violent criminals.
@california.insider Excellent job of presenting various viewpoints of the issue. For me, this is much more educational and effective than the usual format of interviewing a single person who represents a single viewpoint. Thank you.
because the big population areas in the country make the same mistake over and over again. Consider this scenario: I'm a wealthy individual as an example, you recognize that the cost of living is determined by what people are willing to pay. In an area with many ADUs (Accessory Dwelling Units), what incentive do I have to lower prices, just because there is more availability in the market? The market is saturated with people wanting that space, and the value of the area remains high. Increasing the supply doesn’t change this overnight. The cost of living was set the moment everyone accepted to pay that much to live there. Unlike some major cities worldwide with efficient and fast transportation, in the US when markets here become overpriced, people face two options, build higher density housing or preserve the neighborhood’s character through measures like HPOZ (Historic Preservation Overlay Zones). But you need to remember as a wealthy person, I can profit from either situation. Efforts to push for higher wages to counteract the wealthy’s influence overlook a critical factor, the wealthy have the luxury of choice. They will not change their lifestyle to benefit others. Instead, they will raise prices. As each wealthy-owned company increases costs, the burden falls on the general population again, resulting in higher rent, food prices, and overall cost of living. Those without significant leverage or ownership of essential businesses will always end up at the bottom. Survival at the bottom is possible, but it requires looking to other models, such as Tokyo, where despite lower wages, rent is significantly cheaper in the greater area (the same can't be said about Greater Los Angeles). Just some perspective Greater Tokyo is the size of LACOUNTY, but has 3 times the population, imagine if LACOUNTY tripled in size, how much worse would everyone be? Would cost of living remain the same? But that's a different discussion... But technically, we do have leverage, but automation, outsourcing, and both legal and illegal immigration have hindered its effective use. Additionally, the widespread desire for the best deal, regardless of ethical considerations, means we have never truly leveraged this power. If we all united and collectively stopped working at places like McDonald's, and shunned those who support them until the top executives took a pay cut, the company would face a choice, lose the market or accept the cut. Persistent collective action would eventually force them to give in. Because leaving such markets would allow local business owners to fill the void, keeping income circulating within our local economy rather than funneling it into the pockets of investors who might not even reside in the state. However, our culture, coupled with automation, outsourcing, and immigration, has made it nearly impossible to leverage this power unless there is unanimous participation. If you don't believe me, look at a McDonalds in major cities abroad compared to ours in our major cities. Look at those in Hong Kong vs ours in Beverly Hills, it's a reflection on the truth that we as Americans have no standards, we're okay with "meh". But continuing on, so cost of living rises, now as people seek alternatives and move out, the cities don't grow naturally like a wave but in pockets, shifting markets without drastically affecting overall demand, because you all move collectively city to city. This is where I, as a wealthy individual, come in. By building suburban sprawl I'm welcomed as the hero providing more housing, but through sprawl I can prevent the city from scaling and add more suburban developments to obstruct the creation of fast transportation systems, making a car centric city. At first it works, until more and more people move in, the new homeowners will then preserve their "wealth" by opposing high-density housing, perpetuating the cycle. As long as you need to work in the city center, I can manipulate the cost of living to force you to accept the new expenses or face penalties for leaving (long commutes, traffic, car maintenance, less outside city developments). However, a fast and efficient transportation system would eliminate the punishment for living further away, allowing for more balanced urban development. By interconnecting more locations, you dilute my influence, making it harder for me to control the next hub of growth. This would allow the cost of living to remain stable despite urban development. Why? because relocations are fluid, you are no longer burdened by moving away or disconnected. Unless I can create actual walls to stop development in between, I can't realistically control an entire state. You'd make me shift my focus to the absolute hubs, where people pay regardless of cost. But two main issues hinder this progress, the widespread desire for homeownership and the reliance on cars. These needs are market-driven, controlled by the wealthy, keeping you in a loop. Additionally, the wealthy have deep control over politicians, and many people fail to see how historical actions have shaped current issues. The history of Los Angeles illustrates the extent of this influence. Without the St. Francis Dam disaster, which exposed significant corruption, we might never have known the lengths to which the wealthy will go to maintain control. Kinda makes you question what events are playing out right now and if they're really in our best interests.
@@junkvista61 houses for $2000 available in the Midwest. There are many towns where everybody is leaving boarded up storefronts Plenty of space for cheap.
Utter disaster for California with privacy issues, bringiing unattainable home prices with awful parking problems on the streets impacting safety, mail delivery and increased trash cans. Trash trucks have a hard time when they can't make the turn in a culdesac or trash cans put in the middle of the street and now don't even bother to pick up the trash because of the street being congested with more cars on the street. I have 3 ADU's on my street and now there's nowhere to park. Mailman won't deliver mail if mailboxes are blocked by cars, trash isn't picked up if the truck is unable to pick up the trash cans with adequate space and delivery trucks clogging the residential street as they try to come down the street. Just a terrible decision on the politicians without knowing the negative impacts on the community
People attend the planning commission meetings to complain about traffic, traffic, traffic and parking, parking, parking. However, the city has opted to cut funding for public transportation which was a valid solution to the traffic/parking issue.
Stop letting out of the country people buy house. China has been buying our house but can buy house there. They wanna bring there over prices homes here
Great information from Dennis the first person interviewed. Costs and the permitting process WILL vary based on your city/county requirements but what's the cost to build ADU vs. a remodel for a room(s)?
Parking is the most annoying thing for me in a neighborhood. My neighbors have 2 adult children and their spouse living with them. They have 6 cars and block up the whole dang street
@@ky9616 because it blocks up the whole street. Housing developments are designed for 2-3 cars per home max. And the people don’t even park in their garage because it’s full of everyone’s crap
@@Eric-bh7jy so therefore every adult must pay $2000+ a month for rent? If it were me I would much rather save that money than give it to some landlord and you can't force people to rent in a market that is way overcharging people. If you want an actual solution you would fight for policies that bring down rent to affordable levels and increase the rental stock instead of complaining how people are doing their best to save money. Otherwise it comes off as another rich old person complaining about poor people.
@@ky9616 I’m not saying they can’t live there.. maybe they should clean out the garage to park 2 cars in there and be courteous to the other people that live here
Get used to it because it will become a lot more common now. The days were you can buy a house right after college are over. The economy is down the drain and this will only worsen the current market on rents, leading to more children living with family for longer periods of time.
I wish you talked about the ADU / Lot Splits that are happening. Basically, in LA I've seen ADU get built, then they lot split and both homes and sell at just slightly lower market price but they effectively double dip on profit, it's insane lol
In San Diego...So frustrated with the loss of parking, privacy (neighbor built huge 2 story adu house in backyard one house over from mine, 4 years it took as he did it himself!) Then in middle of that next door neighbor built adu, moved and rented both front house and adu as air bnbs - inconsiderate loud partying people etc...with more people came more dogs - neighborhood sounds like a dog park some days! What was once a predictable, quiet, private serene place to live 8 years ago is now a unpredictable noise fest. This IS NOT the solution to the housing it's a short-sided selfish endeavor with NO consideration of community/neighbor impact. 😮🤔
100% agree. I can see how it benefits renters who pay $2000/month but where is the consideration of the people who are paying over a million dollars, sometimes 2-3 million, with the expectation that their neighborhood is going to be stable, low density, single family homes where you can bond with your neighbors. It would decrease my property value as well as everybody else's. I personally would be pissed if that happened in my neighborhood.
I left San Diego. You got to be a millionaire to live there. Moved up to LA, got a 3 story condo for the same price of a 2 bedroom apartment in San Diego. Moved out to Pasadena area and its an amazing neighborhood, should have moved before covid. Last 5 years in San Diego were some of the most difficult years in my entire life. If your pulling in 200k as a couple then you can live comfortably anything less than that, you better have bought your house 15 years ago.
@@Jeff-fc7nfI’ve lived in LA, OC & SD at different parts of my life. SD was easily the most expensive for me at least. Even things like car insurance were more. OC was the least expensive.
The ADUs in my neighborhood make me so sad. Our community was built to hold a lot less people. Parking is scarce and traffic has tripled in recent years. Most of the people in my neighborhood who own ADUs don’t even live in the neighborhood, so unfortunately they aren’t well maintained.
ADUs will do nothing to significantly relieve housing needs. At best, extended families can live together so there will be one less buyer for a starter home or condo. What will happen is the livable square footage and the value of the property goes up. That house will no longer be affordable at the time of sale.
There's a lot of talk about allowing the ADU to become a separate legal property so it can be sold separately from the original house. Essentially, a condo conversion.
I don't like this trend. My neighborhood is quiet and calm, with one house on my street that was a rental property. The owner obviously vets the renters well, because they blend in so well. zits only obvious because we see a moving teuck about once per year. Now, my neighbor next to me added an ADU and of course, that's 2 new cars in the neighborhood and their garage is gone. So we have to fight for space to place our garbage cans once per week. And neighbors across the street are converting their garage too! It's feeling crowded, and I'm tired of construction noise... Who else is gonna do this?!
The higher the density, the more likely it is that one or more neighbors will cause problems(late loud parties, trash, taking up all parking, etc) and can't or won't adapt. If they are renters too, then state laws limit and lengthen actions against such people. Imagine finally getting out of renting apartmnts, to leave all that behind, only to have your neighbors all build ADUs, and you find you are back to all the drama and BS. No Thanks, that would be time to move, probably out of CA.
There's a little secret....GATED community!!! This CRAP will NEVER HAPPEN in any gated-community, especially in a 55+ community. Yeppppp, which is why when I turn 55, I am moving (buying) my house in a lifestyle/resort GATED community!!!!! I am 51, I have a little ways to go!😁
Most people are not building adus in California for extra housing stock to be bought or have long term rentals or to house family in 80 percent of the adu's being built in California are listed on Airbnb as temporary rental units
Supply and Demand is a law like the Law of Gravity. It cannot be broken, but people still take risks. Rent control destroyed the supply of new rental housing and moratoriums on eviction destroyed much of the demand to build and rent them in an orderly fashion. It used to be if you wanted lower rent, you could get something old, something small, something with no parking, or no laundry, something in the next town or county over. But the laws try to force everyone to conform to the same standards reducing freedom of choice, especially at the low end. This takes away the on-ramp for young households, and removes housing that used to keep people from living in vehicles or under freeway overpasses. Even when the land was free, homesteaders had to sacrifice to live there. Land is a responsibility and requires sacrifice to own. This is never more true than when providing housing to others.
Looks like investors will be buying these homes and not actual single families bc it’ll bring down the quality of the neighborhood. These are new but in 10-20 years, it’s only a matter of time that the entire property is renters and even accepting Sec8.
Sec8 is guaranteed income that increases with time to fit market...housing cost in CA is out of control - required solar on detached is brilliant! Families need to stay close these days - smart way to save money and help grandkids have better lives - less latch-key kids, too. It raises property values - there's more pluses than minuses ...😊
@@donnadavis9829 over time these as adu’s increase these neighborhoods will become less desirable and homes with adu’s will be bought by corporations or investors and become complete full rentals. Yeah, the value will increase but the quality of the neighborhood will decrease.
Agreed. There was a developer that bought and tore the house down, built 4 ADU's in our city. If every street has a couple of those, the parking situation will be just like any downtown cities
@@donnadavis9829 the people on sec8 are not the people you want as neighbors and it brings down the value of the whole neighborhood. The problem with CA is a far Left Liberal/Progressive legislature having a Super Majority stranglehold for a quarter century.
The huge problem with adu’s OUTSIDE of city sewer districts is the septic tank issue…up to 75k for a septic permit/65% nitrogen system…There are virtually no legal adu’s being put up out in the country of California.No more straight down leach field pits as of 2017.
When there is demand, developers and homeowners can reap without regard to impact beyond the money. In Orange County, the apartment buildings have been going up, right on the freeway and wherever land can be bulldozed.
I was inspecting a home here in San Diego 92109. In the backyard their 6 Adu's almost finished in one lot. It will take a grand total from start to finish around 3 months to completion. Freaking insane.
So solar is not always required on detached ADUs. There are exceptions that T24 can verify typically an ADU under 600sf based on region/area or if there's a tree preventing a certain percent of the roof from receiving solar. Also JADUs is an interchangeable name for an attached ADU, not just for existing conversions.
Contractors are over charging for these little units out here in California. I’ve been beating most written estimates by around 20%. Can someone tell me how much you or someone you know pay for a detached ADU per sq ft for construction only?
This great for everyone except the next door neighbor I have one next door and the privacy and parking issues are horrible it’s all about money for the owners and the city and not about respecting those issues period
My HOA is trying to forbid me from building my garage attached adu going to mediation then prob litigation since state adu laws says they cannot prohibit them
It’s not that easy. I have 25+ acres near a developing town and new schools, but was informed that there are all these loops to go through. It needs to be zone correctly.
Taking away parking from your neighbors that are paying high property tax, so you can pocket cash in your pocket. Nah California needs more neighbors like you
Until you have to evict a tenant in California! Tenant’s are all likely to be living next to their landlord. Does anyone realize how often tenant/landlord relationships go south?? This is going to blow up bad throughout the state!
@@genarolegorreta3418 what a good neighbor you're. Let's make parking on the public street difficult in the community because you wanna run your house like an air b n b while everyone around you pays high tax.
I had an ADU installed. Best investment. Lots of choices and options. I went with a turn-key business, and they took care of everything from start to finish.
This is pretty much the very definition of “the tragedy of the commons”. I’m pretty libertarian about property rights (and find California favoritism to renters over owners to be absurd, on a side note) but this is devastating for everyone’s use of the public commons. My ex lived in pacific beach ca, a beach town that would be dense regardless, but in the 80’s they had an ADU boom and virtually every house has a “back house” and to say parking is a nightmare is such an understatement. The garages are gone and suddenly there’s twice as many people. Where the “tragedy of the commons” comes in, is that when everyone else is doubling (roughly) their value/rent at the cost of the entire neighborhood, you’d be a fool to be the only one NOT to take advantage, and seemingly overnight the quality of living has degraded - and a house with terrible parking loses value, counteracting to some degree the benefit of the adu. The same way that my right to swing my fist ends at your nose, your right to do with your property as you like ends when it harms my property value. That’s how I see it at least, but I’m willing to change my mind.
I made a TH-cam of my "delightful experience" living near a sleeps 14 Airbnb in Bird Rock, close to PB. Check it out: TootsTells Good Stories. a 15 min video, and shorts. We had the police say to us: this (Airbnb guests going wild) isn't as bad as Garnet Ave! It's not supposed to be! It's a quiet, residential street.
The video did not address getting a JADU not Permitted to permitted status . From my understanding 50% are unpermitted ADU built previously. No how do you get it to permitted status ?
The lack of privacy, the clutter of cars, and the unknown habits and behaviors of whoever would be renting an ADU would be enough for me to not consider it.
Hi the problem with ADU is too many people moving in the neighborhood no parking!!!! Also, contractors way overcharge !!!!!! You can convert your garage easily for 50k!!!!
Well done. The state law might have mandated that ADU occupants be initially occupied by direct relatives of the primary property owner. OR tenants of a senior-aged property owner. Other states have done this and it is hard to enforce. Newport Beach has approximately, 200 ADUs in the pipeline with about 100 complete which are managed via a well-defined city policy.
The # of homes needed in a given market each year is roughly equal to the # of babies born 25 yrs ago, divided by 2, plus a little for immigration. That is the minimum. In EVERY market I have studied, where prices are crazy, each year there is a 10-35% deficit in that number. It compounds year over year. Anti-Growth sentiment and increased bureaucracy are the peoblem
Every single project I’ve done I wonder where are they going to park.? It’s even worse when it’s the garage or parking space being lost and so now you lose parking and you’re gonna need more once the tenants move in.
I live in a 2br ADU in Belmont Heights, Long Beach and it's amazing. We have 2 parking spots in the back which doesn't take away from street parking for all the rest of the neighbors. Our landlord did a really great job. I love the privacy that comes with it being a back house and living in an ADU allows us to live in a safe neighborhood where we can't afford to buy just yet. I'm 100% pro ADUs creating housing for individuals within the neighborhoods that they work in where they can't afford to buy. This creates more diversity as well.
I’m sure I works well for you as a renter but that community is already dense in the long run values will go down because it will turn into apartment city
California insider, first of all I like all your programs they very educational. Second,your connection is good, can you make a program about house remodeling or refresh outside house looks like little modern, how will effect property taxes? Because I want to do but little scary if my property taxes raise a lot.
AdUs were being done for years without permits and help many middle/low income families pay their mortgage. I think it’s great it is legal now, however I do see the issue created in San Diego and it should be looked into so like the man said, only one ADU is built
I have space available because of a wide lot with an oversized driveway and a second driveway I originally put in for a Motorhome. The major issue is adding the utilities necessary to build an ADU. Three other homes in the neighborhood have added them and they don't have the extra driveway or parking and one place is a Clown House. I think they have all the rooms rented out because there are 8 cars and two trucks that all but one leaves every day. Parking space is a huge problem where driveways, streets and even lawns are full ove vehicles.
Scam?? Wow - do you own property or have family? Seen the cost of rentals? Families need to stay closer these days - it gets affordable housing to those who need it - come to California - land if milk and honey and beautiful neighborhoods ❤ for a newly built whole house for 1/3 cost - brilliant !!
@donnadavis9829 land of milk and honey? Are you kidding me? We just had a triple homicide here in Newhall 2 days ago! Stores are closing by the dozens, looting is a daily thing everywhere here, and don't get me started with X, Meta, Google, Rite aid, Pepsico, and Spaceforce leaving! Question, what part of Xommiefornistan do you live?
If California SoCal cities can add another million units to their housing stock thru ADUs the next 15yrs this will be critical to housing stock growth across SoCal which will allow 10% of the SoCal population to have housing. If NorCal Great Bay area can add another 400k ADUs the next 15yrs this will also help support 15% of the population have housing. Net new traditional housing stock might be 1-2 million units across California the next 15yrs So 3m max new housing stock should help 25% of the population have access to housing. This will also slowly stabilize housing costs maybe 50% increase by 2040 as the scale of 200k new units of housing stock a year for 15yrs will slowly make a dent in the housing stock supply. Structurally there needs to be 5 million units added to truly transfer the housing market in California.
Both of the neighbors at my childhood home have ADUs, and they now park on our lawn for street sweeping days(without asking). My parents are too afraid of making enemies of the neighbors to ask them to stop.
I live in a 135 square foot California ADU, with two little dogs and an ex bf and I am tired of this lifestyle! We're stuck together, have no choice but to share a queen bed because we can't afford to live alone. Plus this is the only affordable option, costing $1300 a month, with utilities included. I am a California native who dreams of escaping this state, every single moment of my life! It's too crowded, too much traffic, with no affordable housing. I'm never able to take my dogs to the nearest park and I'm forced to drive over 20 minutes for another because our park is always so crowded! Before I became unemployed because the company shut down, I'd have to be on the road at least an hour each way, for a 14 mile distance! My ex's commute time is over 2 hours each way and he can't find housing near his work. It's a mess.
Why not try and relocate to another state? I don’t understand why people put up with it? The weather is great in California, but it’s not worth dealing with all of the other problems
@@tpfrk8977 I'm in the process. I just need a bit more money. To me the climate doesn't matter anymore, even though I've never lived in a place that snowed. But I'm sure I'll adjust. My favorite state is Kansas.
@@Kitty-ig4yhI live here in Texas, and when I see the property prices in California.. it’s just shocking really.. I don’t see how people do it.. Recently there have been tons of people fleeing California to come to Texas.. They seem to really like Austin in particular
@@tpfrk8977 too bad Austin is becoming more like California. It's expensive there too! I want to live somewhere that's the complete opposite of California. I want to find a safe small town, with wide, green open spaces and very few people. All my life I've been competing to just exist as a human being because of overcrowdedness. The last thing I want is to move to a California copy.
@@Kitty-ig4yhTexas has plenty of small towns that are very affordable.. Even with the recent post covid run up in prices, you can find very affordable real estate in Texas.. You could buy a massive house here for the money it costs in California to rent a shack..Austin is definitely an outlier in terms of price, still way cheaper than California though .. Also pretty good job opportunities here as well. You should give Texas a look
I live in Long Beach California and hate a d u literally fighting for parking because there's so much people smashed into these neighborhoods it's ridiculous
Supply and demand dictates the price. There are some communities with abandoned houses as very few demands therefore rents are dirt cheap. Who forced people live in high price housing areas?
That is where a strong homeowners association comes into play. Can't even put a shed in the backyard without being scrutinized. Now, I am glad they are sticklers on rules NIMBY no ADUs.
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My husband and I broke ground in January and are hoping to be done building in 60 days (located in Orange, CA). It's been quite ... a revealing experience!
Can’t wait to build my ADU on my son’s backyard; I would much rather grow old near my children than die in a nursing home.
@@teedamartoccia6075 true
@@teedamartoccia6075 wait until you get older and no longer support yourself then you can tell your son is real or not.
don't let all the negative people scare you, everything will be fine. before you know it the Adu will be built. Just keep your chin up and stay positive.
@@vayduong6806 Things can go either way,the good the bad or the ugly. Nobody can predict.
What a disaster waiting to happen. Traffic parking in your quiet neighborhood going to be out of control
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Yep, I still like ADU, but after seeing different point of views, I'll be more mindful of the surrounding neighbors if I ever consider putting up one.
@@sonnygsmith3207 There's bound to be a neighbor who won't like it.
I did my Adu garage conversation in 2021 for 80k. I did the electrical so that saved me a few thousand. I am located in pomona CA. Los angeles county. It took me about 7 months from architect to final inspection.
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I converted the garage in a 460sqft JADU in california for less than $70k. The permits were a long process but definitely worthy.
What company did you go with?
What City in California?
Awesome. I did that to my garage and then built another ADU in my backyard.
Good luck getting a response you guys
I always enjoy your content. Especially because I live in California and I don’t always know what issues we are facing. It keeps your viewer’s abreast. Thanks so much!😊
Sounds like a good idea however the obvious problem is if everyone in the neighborhood adds ADU’s then the density of a once quiet single family neighborhood is affected.
@@carlososcarcomedy Places are noisy due to car centered infrastructure, not density. If you make neighborhoods denser and allow a mix of small businesses and homes within the same zoning district, it will (eventually) lead to the development of trains and encourage people to use modes of transportation beyond noisy cars.
@@Null_Simplex Obviously you don't live in downtown area where parking is a huge issue. You go to any downtown area in California and insufficient parking is a huge issue. Nobody takes the bus that owns a car. It'll just lead to single-family neighborhoods not having enough on-street parking for everyone.
@@kendallisciousharrisonford8253And the neighborhood where my sister’s last landlord built an ADU in the yard requires people to move for street sweeping. It’s going to cause problems lol
@@kendallisciousharrisonford8253 it's just a second unit, not an apartment complex, there will be enough parking
@@carlososcarcomedy then go live in a rural area for silence
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Plumbers will be the next billionaires
Hell yeah
For real, I saw a plumber I hired to replace my sewer lateral driving a 911 on the weekend. Dudes will be flush with cash
Not really ..I'm a plumber in Los Angeles and make 20 a hour...I'm broke..
@@bigdoggaming7438 Buy a drain auger and go out on your own, you'll quadruple that easily. If you will do after hours and emergency work, double that. Most emergency work either pays well in short time or its something you can subcontract and take a cut after dealing with the emergency part.
@@RandyCampbell-fk3pf thanks man.
I live in San Diego and the rent for these ADUs is super high and many don’t have a proper kitchen or living area yet can be $2k/month and street parking only.
@@AmericanDuck yep, I don’t like it at all. I’m getting a backyard studio but without any bath/kitchen. Just to add an office.
People are finding ways to afford to live here but honestly I am not about lower my standards of living. I rather just live the country at this point.
Do you know about what has happened in Clairemont Mesa? Local developer SDRE, 38 y/o owner Christian Spicer. He builds for profit, not to house grandma/grandpa and save old folks from the poor house. Ruining single family home neighborhoods with 12+-unit apartment buildings cleverly labeled ADUs (because there's a house in front of the units). Firestone Ave: 12 ADUs already built, behind a small house. And SDRE has purchased the home next door. So expect another development. Jicarillo Ave: 12 ADUs, in the process of being built, behind a small house (that's being modified to contain a JADU). Shoshoni Ave: 12 ADUs to be built, behind a small house (on a tiny cul-de-sac). Parking is not a requirement for ADUs within 1 mile of transit. No off street parking is provided.
@@tootstells crazy. People voted for it.
@crowmob-yo6ry you do you, buddy. The rest of us cowards have lives that require a car. I challenge you to get from Rancho Bernardo to somewhere like Ocean Beach using mass transit. You’ll find just how not superior that plan is. 43 minutes versus 3hrs and 7 minutes. Imagine spending over six hours on buses to go there.
My daughter uses a bus and train to go to college. Her first week she had to avoid a attempted murder and a tweaker that tried to follow her.
Man you guys are on top of the hit topics. I was looking into building an ADU on our property and this video gave me a lot of insight on where to begin. We have a 3bed 2bath and a big backyard to expand on and to see others doing it gives me a goal to work for.
250k to 325k to build is insane. That's an entire home build. Plus your property tax and insurance goes up. Will take you at least 10+ years to recoup that amount.
@@johnsris7640 that's correct. This example was for a 1000sf entire house with the average payback of 7 years (which is great for southern California)
No. That becomes part of the value of the property which you can realize immediately should you sell the property.
Most people put a construction loan since it will be likely a stable income producing asset. They only put up 20% usually.
So long as your rent higher than the monthly loan payments with a margin of safety you should be fine. Plus there is depreciation for accounting and inflation will work with you as time goes by (rent goes up, but loan amortization is constant). You also get all equity from appreciation (if any).
And if its a stupid investment, then the renter will be "subsidized" or the next property owner.
The average house in the San Francisco Bay Area is $1.25 million. There are many high paying tech jobs that have driven up the cost of housing, while other workers are struggling - especially low wage service workers.
Building costs are high, but it is an investment. Not many investments adjust for inflation too
Not insane for socal honestly lol. I know, its sad
I built one 800 sqft completed last year. It was the best thing we ever did. And we have great tenants who able to rent cheaper than apartment and love that they enjoy the place.
My ADU in long beach Naples island above my garage is awesome and the rent collected pays my mortgage, otherwise I could not afford to live here, and my tenants over the years are great people..
For the construction of your ADU. Did you take out loan on the equity of your home? Unless you paid all cash plus permit?
How much did it cost?
I live in an ADU in n Turlock, California. I am not working and receiving SSI. I would not be able to live in California if it were not for ADU buildings. I think ADU is a good option to meet the affordable housing demand.
@@viethuynh6808 hi
What is your rent in Turlock?
@@BhupinderSingh-eg1bd $450 a month
"If it's done responsibly" - Most of the developers literally do not care at all. 1 in 100 maybe. They're absentee landlords that put anyone in the place to rent.
They do background checks and credit checks. What else should they screen for hmm?
@@hotmess9640 its illegal for landlords to do credit checks and background checks in CA
@@hotmess9640 In Oakland you’re not allowed to do a criminal background check
Great video on the current ADU situation in California. We're seeing a boom in San Diego. Mostly homeowners with aging family that want to keep parents close.
Clairemont Mesa. Developer SDRE. Owner Christian Spicer. Not for old folks. He builds for profit. Ruining neighborhoods: Firestone Ave: 12 ADUs already built, behind a small house. Jicarilla Ave: 12 ADUs, in the process of being built, behind a small house. Shoshoni Ave: 12 ADUs to be built behind a small house.
Too bad, San Diego needs more housing.
@@magesalmanac6424 Yes, much needed.
“Most folks care about their neighborhood” this is true but the problem is many ‘Homeowners’ in CA do not actually live in their properties. Thus, they have no connection to their neighbors & their wishes.
In New York City, the rental market has been skewed outrageously by billionaires who buy apartments/condos for investment (or escape from future turmoil on their home countries), and NEVER LIVE in them, all the whole pushing 'what the market will bear' rents into the stratosphere.
@@amandamcmurray4964 neither political party benefits from stopping it, too. That’s why we never hear about this BS on the news!
Most contractors are charging WAY too much. That’s the problem
A lot of contractors I have dealt with are not trust worthy to say the least.
@@Manskilzwow. Why is this? Is it strictly inflation? Or is there a shortage of materials available?
@@hotmess9640 tax tax tax. Remember, inflation is a form of tax. You can't forget about the greed as well. In the end, it's just bad politics, and the irs, hedgefunds such as blackrock owned companies. No government body is protecting us from this corruption. We have to take care of ourselves.
Nah. They charge what people pay. Period.
True I had a Neihbor pay the same for a 285 sf studio as I paid for a 1000sf 3 bdr 2 bth. People don’t research get ripped off
Unbelievable cost. We bought our small house with 1.5 acres for $140K in 2008. Now that's the cost of a garage conversion?
Damn. Feels like I was cursed with youth. That’s about 4 years of my rent. Average home is about 800k in my town and that’s to live near murderers. My mother’s home is 700k and you can’t walk around safely.
@@hotmess9640 I hear you. That's why all my kids moved out of state.
It's a funky house. Small, but lots of land & critters. My daughter calls it a fixer upper. It's got quitks and surprises.
Look for a funky place. A bit away from town. For sale by owner. That's how we got this place.
We got quoted $100k for converting our closet to a bathroom here in Mountain view. 😂
@@angelmarauder5647 Unbelievable. We just got quoted $12K to fix a carport. 🙄
Come on 2008 :)
Enjoyed this content immensely, understanding the ADU situation. I too had thought to do something like this, but I changed my mind, too many cars, no privacy from those living right behind you. I enjoy my backyard because it’s part of my living space as well. I enjoy evenings by the fire-pit and I have a pool for my 4 year old grandson and a couple of picnic tables with a nice barbecue pit for family gatherings. You do give up a lot unless you live out in the countryside with some acreage. But I did see all sides of this type of builds. Thank you for bringing this information to your viewers. 🙏😎
Uh, if you want privacy, you can keep it un-rented, but building one seems like a no-brainer, as it makes the house much more appealing to someone with an elderly parent, who would live in the ADU and still keep a modicum of their previous life, instead of moving into assisted living.
I respect your life style but people have different circumstances and-or conditions of life so they choose to live accordingly.
So, does California no longer require a garage or a car port? I remember converting our garage just by adding a wall, and we were required to tear it out when we sold it because you could not sell a house without a garage. That was 1994.
This state already sucked with every house packed and people renting out rooms, now they want to stuff even more people in the same amount of space? insane.
liberals are obsessed with forcing us to live on top of each other by whatever means possible. They want to destroy the suburbs
Thank you for the multi view perspectives. Minimum setback of 4' is also a concern. We have noted up to six vans and pickups from an ADU and home remodel project. That is a local street parking congestion problem. This topic is a knee-jerk reaction from Sacramento and needs to have hearing to air these issues for improvement. You are a part of the issue airing process. Good job.
Always top notch reporting! 👍
Thank you for sharing this it is something that needed to be brought up and that has been under the radar for quite some time I'm a resident here in the Salinas Valley and there are so many homes that have converted into smaller homes or rooms from the original home and they rent out to gain profit some in need because they can't pay their mortgage and some just see a money game from it
it's predominantly the farming community's here in south Monterey County predominantly I understand it benefits the homeowner profit off this but it causes a congestion in its Community from parking the census that needs to be established annually and are these tenants being processed and are the applications being verified the concern to some is do some of these tenants have criminal records that cause concern in the communities that these ADU tenants are living ......... And most importantly are these homeowners providing the proper tax information during tax season to pay the property taxes and other taxes that come involved with renting
just my opinion and what I see in the community thank you
I have zero issue with parents trying to take care of their kids or for additional living space / a guest house. My problem is with home owners , who don’t actually live in their home and build a 1000+ sqft ADU and go through their final inspection , only to put up additional walls and cut in doors. Now that single home turns into 3 apartments. Yes this is actually happening and these greedy “ investors “ would never have this in their actual neighborhood. And just like electric vehicles and solar power, California will eventually figure out how charge way more properly taxes on ADUs when they see enough people making money on them.
This is happening in my neighborhood. The home next to my parents house built a 6 bed 4 bath home and rent out each bedroom, which was designed with two separated entrances and and outdoor stairs for tenants to go their rooms. it has created a problem with parking on the street and privacy because we have have 3 huge windows looking down on the backyard.
Depending on the community, it is turning into 19th century tenement buildings. That is the reality. No parking. No space. Angry people. And they are also very expensive. It completely defeated the purpose of affordable housing.
But they will still vote democrat, the fools
Future slums
Well, anything built in California is doomed to turn to shit at this point.
Agree!!!
I totally understand why some neighbors would be mad with this and go NIMBY. This was a great idea in theory, and still could work as long as there is conditions met. The city should force people to expand their driveways or have parking on the property if they’re renting it out. Also making sure renters on those properties aren’t violent criminals.
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Still, the cost of rent is still too high on adu
True, I pay 2k a month for a ADU its 700 sq ft. All utilities and bills included but its temp spot in central valley california
because the big population areas in the country make the same mistake over and over again.
Consider this scenario: I'm a wealthy individual as an example, you recognize that the cost of living is determined by what people are willing to pay. In an area with many ADUs (Accessory Dwelling Units), what incentive do I have to lower prices, just because there is more availability in the market? The market is saturated with people wanting that space, and the value of the area remains high. Increasing the supply doesn’t change this overnight. The cost of living was set the moment everyone accepted to pay that much to live there.
Unlike some major cities worldwide with efficient and fast transportation, in the US when markets here become overpriced, people face two options, build higher density housing or preserve the neighborhood’s character through measures like HPOZ (Historic Preservation Overlay Zones). But you need to remember as a wealthy person, I can profit from either situation.
Efforts to push for higher wages to counteract the wealthy’s influence overlook a critical factor, the wealthy have the luxury of choice. They will not change their lifestyle to benefit others. Instead, they will raise prices. As each wealthy-owned company increases costs, the burden falls on the general population again, resulting in higher rent, food prices, and overall cost of living. Those without significant leverage or ownership of essential businesses will always end up at the bottom. Survival at the bottom is possible, but it requires looking to other models, such as Tokyo, where despite lower wages, rent is significantly cheaper in the greater area (the same can't be said about Greater Los Angeles). Just some perspective Greater Tokyo is the size of LACOUNTY, but has 3 times the population, imagine if LACOUNTY tripled in size, how much worse would everyone be? Would cost of living remain the same? But that's a different discussion...
But technically, we do have leverage, but automation, outsourcing, and both legal and illegal immigration have hindered its effective use. Additionally, the widespread desire for the best deal, regardless of ethical considerations, means we have never truly leveraged this power. If we all united and collectively stopped working at places like McDonald's, and shunned those who support them until the top executives took a pay cut, the company would face a choice, lose the market or accept the cut. Persistent collective action would eventually force them to give in. Because leaving such markets would allow local business owners to fill the void, keeping income circulating within our local economy rather than funneling it into the pockets of investors who might not even reside in the state. However, our culture, coupled with automation, outsourcing, and immigration, has made it nearly impossible to leverage this power unless there is unanimous participation. If you don't believe me, look at a McDonalds in major cities abroad compared to ours in our major cities. Look at those in Hong Kong vs ours in Beverly Hills, it's a reflection on the truth that we as Americans have no standards, we're okay with "meh".
But continuing on, so cost of living rises, now as people seek alternatives and move out, the cities don't grow naturally like a wave but in pockets, shifting markets without drastically affecting overall demand, because you all move collectively city to city. This is where I, as a wealthy individual, come in. By building suburban sprawl I'm welcomed as the hero providing more housing, but through sprawl I can prevent the city from scaling and add more suburban developments to obstruct the creation of fast transportation systems, making a car centric city. At first it works, until more and more people move in, the new homeowners will then preserve their "wealth" by opposing high-density housing, perpetuating the cycle.
As long as you need to work in the city center, I can manipulate the cost of living to force you to accept the new expenses or face penalties for leaving (long commutes, traffic, car maintenance, less outside city developments). However, a fast and efficient transportation system would eliminate the punishment for living further away, allowing for more balanced urban development. By interconnecting more locations, you dilute my influence, making it harder for me to control the next hub of growth. This would allow the cost of living to remain stable despite urban development. Why? because relocations are fluid, you are no longer burdened by moving away or disconnected. Unless I can create actual walls to stop development in between, I can't realistically control an entire state. You'd make me shift my focus to the absolute hubs, where people pay regardless of cost.
But two main issues hinder this progress, the widespread desire for homeownership and the reliance on cars. These needs are market-driven, controlled by the wealthy, keeping you in a loop. Additionally, the wealthy have deep control over politicians, and many people fail to see how historical actions have shaped current issues. The history of Los Angeles illustrates the extent of this influence. Without the St. Francis Dam disaster, which exposed significant corruption, we might never have known the lengths to which the wealthy will go to maintain control. Kinda makes you question what events are playing out right now and if they're really in our best interests.
Supply and demand dictates the price. There are some communities with abandoned houses as very few demands therefore rents are dirt cheap.
The only problem is they become gettos.
@@junkvista61 houses for $2000 available in the Midwest. There are many towns where everybody is leaving boarded up storefronts Plenty of space for cheap.
Utter disaster for California with privacy issues, bringiing unattainable home prices with awful parking problems on the streets impacting safety, mail delivery and increased trash cans. Trash trucks have a hard time when they can't make the turn in a culdesac or trash cans put in the middle of the street and now don't even bother to pick up the trash because of the street being congested with more cars on the street. I have 3 ADU's on my street and now there's nowhere to park. Mailman won't deliver mail if mailboxes are blocked by cars, trash isn't picked up if the truck is unable to pick up the trash cans with adequate space and delivery trucks clogging the residential street as they try to come down the street. Just a terrible decision on the politicians without knowing the negative impacts on the community
People attend the planning commission meetings to complain about traffic, traffic, traffic and parking, parking, parking. However, the city has opted to cut funding for public transportation which was a valid solution to the traffic/parking issue.
Stop letting out of the country people buy house. China has been buying our house but can buy house there. They wanna bring there over prices homes here
Many countries protect their citizens and expressly forbid foreign ownership of property.
Cities will never do this because more buyers means higher prices means more tax revenue for them.
Amen
Thank you !
Don’t forget about Vanguard, state street, blackrock etc… they can outbid anyone.
Great information from Dennis the first person interviewed. Costs and the permitting process WILL vary based on your city/county requirements but what's the cost to build ADU vs. a remodel for a room(s)?
125k to convert a garage is a rip off. It is really only about 40k.
You should search "Precut ADU". Good luck
Do it yourself and make the money. Learn how to do it on TH-cam.
@@redwood6737
Im a boss, i hire workers like yourself.
Parking is the most annoying thing for me in a neighborhood. My neighbors have 2 adult children and their spouse living with them. They have 6 cars and block up the whole dang street
Why should the adult children be forced to pay market rate rent? If they want to save money that's their business not yours.
@@ky9616 because it blocks up the whole street. Housing developments are designed for 2-3 cars per home max. And the people don’t even park in their garage because it’s full of everyone’s crap
@@Eric-bh7jy so therefore every adult must pay $2000+ a month for rent? If it were me I would much rather save that money than give it to some landlord and you can't force people to rent in a market that is way overcharging people. If you want an actual solution you would fight for policies that bring down rent to affordable levels and increase the rental stock instead of complaining how people are doing their best to save money. Otherwise it comes off as another rich old person complaining about poor people.
@@ky9616 I’m not saying they can’t live there.. maybe they should clean out the garage to park 2 cars in there and be courteous to the other people that live here
Get used to it because it will become a lot more common now. The days were you can buy a house right after college are over. The economy is down the drain and this will only worsen the current market on rents, leading to more children living with family for longer periods of time.
I wish you talked about the ADU / Lot Splits that are happening.
Basically, in LA I've seen ADU get built, then they lot split and both homes and sell at just slightly lower market price but they effectively double dip on profit, it's insane lol
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In San Diego...So frustrated with the loss of parking, privacy (neighbor built huge 2 story adu house in backyard one house over from mine, 4 years it took as he did it himself!) Then in middle of that next door neighbor built adu, moved and rented both front house and adu as air bnbs - inconsiderate loud partying people etc...with more people came more dogs - neighborhood sounds like a dog park some days! What was once a predictable, quiet, private serene place to live 8 years ago is now a unpredictable noise fest. This IS NOT the solution to the housing it's a short-sided selfish endeavor with NO consideration of community/neighbor impact. 😮🤔
@@Karen-ff4os agreed. As a native I’m sickened at what is happening
100% agree. I can see how it benefits renters who pay $2000/month but where is the consideration of the people who are paying over a million dollars, sometimes 2-3 million, with the expectation that their neighborhood is going to be stable, low density, single family homes where you can bond with your neighbors. It would decrease my property value as well as everybody else's. I personally would be pissed if that happened in my neighborhood.
I left San Diego. You got to be a millionaire to live there. Moved up to LA, got a 3 story condo for the same price of a 2 bedroom apartment in San Diego. Moved out to Pasadena area and its an amazing neighborhood, should have moved before covid. Last 5 years in San Diego were some of the most difficult years in my entire life. If your pulling in 200k as a couple then you can live comfortably anything less than that, you better have bought your house 15 years ago.
SD is easily the hardest hit. Pacific Beach has turned into a party city, similar with OB. Need the cities to make a change.
@@Jeff-fc7nfI’ve lived in LA, OC & SD at different parts of my life. SD was easily the most expensive for me at least. Even things like car insurance were more. OC was the least expensive.
The ADUs in my neighborhood make me so sad.
Our community was built to hold a lot less people. Parking is scarce and traffic has tripled in recent years. Most of the people in my neighborhood who own ADUs don’t even live in the neighborhood, so unfortunately they aren’t well maintained.
ADUs will do nothing to significantly relieve housing needs. At best, extended families can live together so there will be one less buyer for a starter home or condo. What will happen is the livable square footage and the value of the property goes up. That house will no longer be affordable at the time of sale.
1 in 200 homes have an adu. I think there will be plenty affordable housing
There's a lot of talk about allowing the ADU to become a separate legal property so it can be sold separately from the original house.
Essentially, a condo conversion.
I don't like this trend. My neighborhood is quiet and calm, with one house on my street that was a rental property. The owner obviously vets the renters well, because they blend in so well. zits only obvious because we see a moving teuck about once per year.
Now, my neighbor next to me added an ADU and of course, that's 2 new cars in the neighborhood and their garage is gone. So we have to fight for space to place our garbage cans once per week. And neighbors across the street are converting their garage too! It's feeling crowded, and I'm tired of construction noise... Who else is gonna do this?!
The higher the density, the more likely it is that one or more neighbors will cause problems(late loud parties, trash, taking up all parking, etc) and can't or won't adapt. If they are renters too, then state laws limit and lengthen actions against such people. Imagine finally getting out of renting apartmnts, to leave all that behind, only to have your neighbors all build ADUs, and you find you are back to all the drama and BS. No Thanks, that would be time to move, probably out of CA.
I understand both sides, but what should be done about the housing crisis? This is a bandaid that could work in some places
There's a little secret....GATED community!!! This CRAP will NEVER HAPPEN in any gated-community, especially in a 55+ community. Yeppppp, which is why when I turn 55, I am moving (buying) my house in a lifestyle/resort GATED community!!!!! I am 51, I have a little ways to go!😁
My 2 Friends Did - One For Sister and another For Her Mother Being Cared Next To Her …..Good Idea in Some Very Sense …..🌞
Most people are not building adus in California for extra housing stock to be bought or have long term rentals or to house family in 80 percent of the adu's being built in California are listed on Airbnb as temporary rental units
2 Bedroom does not need 2 baths- Put the tub room seperate from the toilet - Sink room- We did with 10 kids- IT WORKS
Supply and Demand is a law like the Law of Gravity. It cannot be broken, but people still take risks. Rent control destroyed the supply of new rental housing and moratoriums on eviction destroyed much of the demand to build and rent them in an orderly fashion. It used to be if you wanted lower rent, you could get something old, something small, something with no parking, or no laundry, something in the next town or county over. But the laws try to force everyone to conform to the same standards reducing freedom of choice, especially at the low end. This takes away the on-ramp for young households, and removes housing that used to keep people from living in vehicles or under freeway overpasses. Even when the land was free, homesteaders had to sacrifice to live there. Land is a responsibility and requires sacrifice to own. This is never more true than when providing housing to others.
Looks like investors will be buying these homes and not actual single families bc it’ll bring down the quality of the neighborhood.
These are new but in 10-20 years, it’s only a matter of time that the entire property is renters and even accepting Sec8.
Sec8 is guaranteed income that increases with time to fit market...housing cost in CA is out of control - required solar on detached is brilliant! Families need to stay close these days - smart way to save money and help grandkids have better lives - less latch-key kids, too. It raises property values - there's more pluses than minuses ...😊
@@donnadavis9829 over time these as adu’s increase these neighborhoods will become less desirable and homes with adu’s will be bought by corporations or investors and become complete full rentals. Yeah, the value will increase but the quality of the neighborhood will decrease.
Agreed. There was a developer that bought and tore the house down, built 4 ADU's in our city. If every street has a couple of those, the parking situation will be just like any downtown cities
@@donnadavis9829 the people on sec8 are not the people you want as neighbors and it brings down the value of the whole neighborhood. The problem with CA is a far Left Liberal/Progressive legislature having a Super Majority stranglehold for a quarter century.
This gentleman knows what he's talking about. 😊
The huge problem with adu’s OUTSIDE of city sewer districts is the septic tank issue…up to 75k for a septic permit/65% nitrogen system…There are virtually no legal adu’s being put up out in the country of California.No more straight down leach field pits as of 2017.
didnt know that, thanks!
If I was not over 80, I would move back to California to support this. I am still a California Professional Civil Engineer.
When there is demand, developers and homeowners can reap without regard to impact beyond the money. In Orange County, the apartment buildings have been going up, right on the freeway and wherever land can be bulldozed.
This is great FOR INVESTORS AND city revenue…… too bad for us. We are already tight in San Diego….. now we are piling in more people….
I was inspecting a home here in San Diego 92109. In the backyard their 6 Adu's almost finished in one lot. It will take a grand total from start to finish around 3 months to completion. Freaking insane.
This mom is wonderful
So solar is not always required on detached ADUs. There are exceptions that T24 can verify typically an ADU under 600sf based on region/area or if there's a tree preventing a certain percent of the roof from receiving solar. Also JADUs is an interchangeable name for an attached ADU, not just for existing conversions.
What about building an ADU 1/1 in a barn? Split a 40 x 40 in half so you have a granny flat and the other half is still a work shop.
Contractors are over charging for these little units out here in California. I’ve been beating most written estimates by around 20%. Can someone tell me how much you or someone you know pay for a detached ADU per sq ft for construction only?
I have done many and the comments of traffic and changing neighborhood is not true. Most at studio or one bedroom for family members.
Very informative! Thank you.
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This great for everyone except the next door neighbor I have one next door and the privacy and parking issues are horrible it’s all about money for the owners and the city and not about respecting those issues period
My HOA is trying to forbid me from building my garage attached adu going to mediation then prob litigation since state adu laws says they cannot prohibit them
It’s not that easy. I have 25+ acres near a developing town and new schools, but was informed that there are all these loops to go through. It needs to be zone correctly.
I built a 1200 sq foot ADU in my large backyard and have no regrets. It’s a great investment so far.
Taking away parking from your neighbors that are paying high property tax, so you can pocket cash in your pocket. Nah California needs more neighbors like you
Until you have to evict a tenant in California! Tenant’s are all likely to be living next to their landlord. Does anyone realize how often tenant/landlord relationships go south?? This is going to blow up bad throughout the state!
@@genarolegorreta3418 what a good neighbor you're. Let's make parking on the public street difficult in the community because you wanna run your house like an air b n b while everyone around you pays high tax.
@@JENNIFamily go get a bike and stop crying like a NIMBY. Go and move to rural Idaho if you want near infinite street parking space.
@@ambermyers7463 you are correct I’m getting out of the business
Cool change up from other videos.
I had an ADU installed. Best investment. Lots of choices and options. I went with a turn-key business, and they took care of everything from start to finish.
I bet your neighbors don’t love it.
It’s not for the neighbors
Price?
This is pretty much the very definition of “the tragedy of the commons”. I’m pretty libertarian about property rights (and find California favoritism to renters over owners to be absurd, on a side note) but this is devastating for everyone’s use of the public commons. My ex lived in pacific beach ca, a beach town that would be dense regardless, but in the 80’s they had an ADU boom and virtually every house has a “back house” and to say parking is a nightmare is such an understatement. The garages are gone and suddenly there’s twice as many people. Where the “tragedy of the commons” comes in, is that when everyone else is doubling (roughly) their value/rent at the cost of the entire neighborhood, you’d be a fool to be the only one NOT to take advantage, and seemingly overnight the quality of living has degraded - and a house with terrible parking loses value, counteracting to some degree the benefit of the adu.
The same way that my right to swing my fist ends at your nose, your right to do with your property as you like ends when it harms my property value. That’s how I see it at least, but I’m willing to change my mind.
Thank you for mentioning PB. I’ve watched the area transform as well and it’s the best case study for why ADUs need to be limited.
I made a TH-cam of my "delightful experience" living near a sleeps 14 Airbnb in Bird Rock, close to PB. Check it out: TootsTells Good Stories. a 15 min video, and shorts. We had the police say to us: this (Airbnb guests going wild) isn't as bad as Garnet Ave! It's not supposed to be! It's a quiet, residential street.
The video did not address getting a JADU not
Permitted to permitted status .
From my understanding 50% are unpermitted ADU built previously.
No how do you get it to permitted status ?
damn these is crazy! in Wisconsin a 300K to 350K buys you a real house
Yeah but on the downside, you’d be living in Wisconsin.
The lack of privacy, the clutter of cars, and the unknown habits and behaviors of whoever would be renting an ADU would be enough for me to not consider it.
Hi the problem with ADU is too many people moving in the neighborhood no parking!!!! Also, contractors way overcharge !!!!!! You can convert your garage easily for 50k!!!!
We have no water, so let's build build build.
Well done. The state law might have mandated that ADU occupants be initially occupied by direct relatives of the primary property owner. OR tenants of a senior-aged property owner. Other states have done this and it is hard to enforce. Newport Beach has approximately, 200 ADUs in the pipeline with about 100 complete which are managed via a well-defined city policy.
The # of homes needed in a given market each year is roughly equal to the # of babies born 25 yrs ago, divided by 2, plus a little for immigration.
That is the minimum.
In EVERY market I have studied, where prices are crazy, each year there is a 10-35% deficit in that number. It compounds year over year.
Anti-Growth sentiment and increased bureaucracy are the peoblem
Every single project I’ve done I wonder where are they going to park.? It’s even worse when it’s the garage or parking space being lost and so now you lose parking and you’re gonna need more once the tenants move in.
I live in a 2br ADU in Belmont Heights, Long Beach and it's amazing. We have 2 parking spots in the back which doesn't take away from street parking for all the rest of the neighbors. Our landlord did a really great job. I love the privacy that comes with it being a back house and living in an ADU allows us to live in a safe neighborhood where we can't afford to buy just yet. I'm 100% pro ADUs creating housing for individuals within the neighborhoods that they work in where they can't afford to buy. This creates more diversity as well.
I’m sure the neighbors are thrilled that area is already densely populated great for you but total shit for the community
I’m sure I works well for you as a renter but that community is already dense in the long run values will go down because it will turn into apartment city
California insider, first of all I like all your programs they very educational. Second,your connection is good, can you make a program about house remodeling or refresh outside house looks like little modern, how will effect property taxes? Because I want to do but little scary if my property taxes raise a lot.
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AdUs were being done for years without permits and help many middle/low income families pay their mortgage. I think it’s great it is legal now, however I do see the issue created in San Diego and it should be looked into so like the man said, only one ADU is built
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18:25 - the property owner could've added to their home and had the same outcome. Its not an ADU thing.
I have space available because of a wide lot with an oversized driveway and a second driveway I originally put in for a Motorhome. The major issue is adding the utilities necessary to build an ADU. Three other homes in the neighborhood have added them and they don't have the extra driveway or parking and one place is a Clown House. I think they have all the rooms rented out because there are 8 cars and two trucks that all but one leaves every day.
Parking space is a huge problem where driveways, streets and even lawns are full ove vehicles.
Campers , mobilehomes and r.v.'s . We've had em for years just like garden sheds .
WHAT A SCAM. CALIFORNIA IS GREED, GREED, GREED. THOSE COSTS ARE TOTAL BULLSHIT.
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That’s why we are leaving. I just canceled my contractors license and not planning to ever go back!
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Scam?? Wow - do you own property or have family? Seen the cost of rentals? Families need to stay closer these days - it gets affordable housing to those who need it - come to California - land if milk and honey and beautiful neighborhoods ❤ for a newly built whole house for 1/3 cost - brilliant !!
@donnadavis9829 land of milk and honey? Are you kidding me? We just had a triple homicide here in Newhall 2 days ago! Stores are closing by the dozens, looting is a daily thing everywhere here, and don't get me started with X, Meta, Google, Rite aid, Pepsico, and Spaceforce leaving! Question, what part of Xommiefornistan do you live?
I hope the owners will not overcharge on the rent...greed is deadly to the community.
This is one of the primary issues with housing in our state; no one wants their neighborhood to change. We need more homes.
If California SoCal cities can add another million units to their housing stock thru ADUs the next 15yrs this will be critical to housing stock growth across SoCal which will allow 10% of the SoCal population to have housing.
If NorCal Great Bay area can add another 400k ADUs the next 15yrs this will also help support 15% of the population have housing.
Net new traditional housing stock might be 1-2 million units across California the next 15yrs
So 3m max new housing stock should help 25% of the population have access to housing.
This will also slowly stabilize housing costs maybe 50% increase by 2040 as the scale of 200k new units of housing stock a year for 15yrs will slowly make a dent in the housing stock supply.
Structurally there needs to be 5 million units added to truly transfer the housing market in California.
I could see why people want to add an ADU, but I would never do it, we bought a house for privacy and having our own space.
Both of the neighbors at my childhood home have ADUs, and they now park on our lawn for street sweeping days(without asking). My parents are too afraid of making enemies of the neighbors to ask them to stop.
I live in a 135 square foot California ADU, with two little dogs and an ex bf and I am tired of this lifestyle! We're stuck together, have no choice but to share a queen bed because we can't afford to live alone. Plus this is the only affordable option, costing $1300 a month, with utilities included. I am a California native who dreams of escaping this state, every single moment of my life! It's too crowded, too much traffic, with no affordable housing. I'm never able to take my dogs to the nearest park and I'm forced to drive over 20 minutes for another because our park is always so crowded! Before I became unemployed because the company shut down, I'd have to be on the road at least an hour each way, for a 14 mile distance! My ex's commute time is over 2 hours each way and he can't find housing near his work. It's a mess.
Why not try and relocate to another state? I don’t understand why people put up with it? The weather is great in California, but it’s not worth dealing with all of the other problems
@@tpfrk8977 I'm in the process. I just need a bit more money. To me the climate doesn't matter anymore, even though I've never lived in a place that snowed. But I'm sure I'll adjust. My favorite state is Kansas.
@@Kitty-ig4yhI live here in Texas, and when I see the property prices in California.. it’s just shocking really.. I don’t see how people do it.. Recently there have been tons of people fleeing California to come to Texas.. They seem to really like Austin in particular
@@tpfrk8977 too bad Austin is becoming more like California. It's expensive there too! I want to live somewhere that's the complete opposite of California. I want to find a safe small town, with wide, green open spaces and very few people. All my life I've been competing to just exist as a human being because of overcrowdedness. The last thing I want is to move to a California copy.
@@Kitty-ig4yhTexas has plenty of small towns that are very affordable.. Even with the recent post covid run up in prices, you can find very affordable real estate in Texas.. You could buy a massive house here for the money it costs in California to rent a shack..Austin is definitely an outlier in terms of price, still way cheaper than California though .. Also pretty good job opportunities here as well. You should give Texas a look
I love this orange chair where'd you get it ?????
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I want to build one of these on my property.
i built mine for $200/SF with MEOD modular
I live in Long Beach California and hate a d u literally fighting for parking because there's so much people smashed into these neighborhoods it's ridiculous
Housing should not be an appreciating asset. It’s a place for people to live. More stock and therefore density is required to lower housing prices.
Supply and demand dictates the price. There are some communities with abandoned houses as very few demands therefore rents are dirt cheap. Who forced people live in high price housing areas?
Accessory Dwelling Unit.
ADU should be secondary housing for the family use.
Not for the rentals.
Glad justice was done in the case where that homeowner built too close to the neighbor.
That is where a strong homeowners association comes into play. Can't even put a shed in the backyard without being scrutinized. Now, I am glad they are sticklers on rules NIMBY no ADUs.
The woman home developer was disgusting. You can tell all she saw was dollar signs, literally foaming at the mouth to make that money.
Bad bad! Why didn't you say out loud which city he is a mayor of? I can't see the name on my tiny smartphone screen!
The Mayor (3rd speaker) is John Cruikshank, mayor of Rancho Palos Verdes in Southern California.