as someone who's been building with laravel for 2 months i can confidently say i made the worst mistake of my life when i listened to internet memes that php sucks bla bla Laravel is the most beautiful thing i've ever come across and my ideas finally came to life
It’s funny, I’ve always used php (and wrote vanilla js) and only recently decided to move forward with “modern” tech like typescript and Lit (chose that instead or react for reasons), and now I see all these videos of people flocking back to php. I always hated the boilerplate that comes with modern js stuff, the webpack or vue or whatever configs. But there’s obviously benefits
ColdFusion was the OG language for the web, not PHP. CF it’s first commercial out in 1995. By 1996 it was already on v2 and had its own IDE. The first version of PHP that had more than one guy working on it didn’t come out until 97. I’m an old and actually had a couple of “webmaster” jobs in the 90s. 😂. In the late 90s myself and some kids even younger than I was built a vacation auction website in ColdFusion. I’m still in the biz in my mid 40s, most recently working in the Kubernetes/Go space.
I fucking love PHP. It's my bread a butter. I used it at my previous company (it was a big company, 12,000 employees). We used Laravel to build a few microservices. Other teams used Ruby. I can tell you my team's microservices ran like well oiled engines. Probably the most reliable services in the company, along with other great systems other teams built in Go. Any new project I start, Laravel is my go to. I am Laravel's whore.
Agreed. I think that PHP has bad reputation simply because it's very easy to write bad and unsecure code in it. AI could help in this though, there aren't that many unsafe things that you need to pay attention too and if you were notified of it while writing your first app (and learning), it would be awesome.
Php started out as a templating engine. Now there's template engines for the template engine. I can say 1st hand that laravel on digital Ocean is easy to set up. DO even has documentation to help you out.
I remember I also got curious about how to make a wordpress website from scratch (you know, without any website builders) and started learning php just for this. I ABSOLUTELY loved it and I understood why it had/has such a buzz in web development. It's so much better when you don't need an overly dynamic frontend.
I used to be a lead engineer at a small chemical company using PHP (LAMP stack). I was the only full time employee and then we only hired local under-grad interns. We were able to have those kids deliver useful code for the business daily within a week or two. Life was simple back then...
same, at first I stole vanilla php with some parts of symfony and some other labs. Much better to pick and chose parts from different frameworks, than to go all in into one
I don't need framework for my website either. Just plain PHP. No need to care about packages, compilation, installation, version updates and so on. Make changes, upload it, it works. 24/7 in my case.
@@jan.tichavsky yeah, but you can still use composer. for once to have auto registering of your own classes. And once you have it, it's trivial to add 3rd party libraries. you can even add some parts of other framewoks. For example I took just the translation component form symfony.
@@jan.tichavskysomeone who need to “sell you” technology, so when you go to some place, you promote the product, it gets famous and obtain a) more money for company support, b) obtain more money from investors. Simple as that… the real programmer needs keyboard, and head, native language is a tool.
PHP was my first language back in 2003. It was really all you had back then. I remember getting the Web 2.0 book, which started talking about XML request in JavaScript and showing how pages can change
Literally everyone and their dog were creating a language for the web just before the 2000's. And I've had the pleasure to work with a few of those languages that no one has seen and will hopefully never see.
In 1995 it was PHP and Coldfusion - two new languages designed specifically for writing web. Both still exist today, both fun to use, and quick to produce results, but also with bad reputation. If you want to have web site quickly, use PHP or CFML, then serve it off any Linux VPS.
Laravel can do serverless too. But it doesn't add a markup like Vercel does. It manages the lambdas on your own AWS account, at the same cost as when you'd create your own lambdas.
My favorite usage for php is still just a single file for a simple API. I don't really like the loosy goosy model-blade connection, was searching for quite a while for the error when the class file and the blade had a minor filename mismatch ... I prefer template+code in the same. but migrations are great (especially since you can just return the class without classname), routing is good, I overall like very opinionated frameworks.
This is one of the great benefits of PHP. You want a simple single file where everything is mixed in? Go ahead. You want a simple front controller that routes to basic PHP files as templates? Also doable in less than a day. Want to do some CLI scripts? No problem. You want full fledged frameworks like laravel? You can do that too.
I have an enterprise inventory management platform for vehicles and laravel is at the heart of it. Honestly php has become my favorite "get it done" language
bad choice to be honest. modern dotnet and c# are beautiful. I am working in PHP now but learning dotnet on the side for fun. c# has so much more syntactic sugar and langauge features compared to php, it's not even funny.
@@DavidSmith-ef4eh you do realise that php and c# are completely different languages? you might as well make a comparison between a strawberry and your left index finger :)
@@EricMaechler they started off the same. dotnet is literally Microsofts response to the popularity of php back in the days. Also, both are OOP with some functional elements. Both are c-like languages. For me they are very much similar. Specially since I know TS very well, and microsoft designed TS type system based on c# I am assuming. It's not 1-1, but similar enough.
I did like PHP a lot. Even the language was horrible, it didn't matter because it was meant mostly for templating HTML, and it was just so CHEAP. Likely it is still the cheapest one make simple dynamic HTML pages on server and there is likely $1-$2/mo priced hosting available.
New PHP is great! It's just that with PHP you have a higher probability of potentially getting clients with legacy codebases still running old PHP. Not all clients have the budget to continuously update the whole code base.
came to PHP at v4 (2002). Nothing else felt as powerful or easy to use. The ability to write just a few lines, return stuff from a database (postgresql natch) was such a revelation at that time. Everything else was so much harder. genuinely loved it for a few years. good times. glad I'm not maintaining any of the code I wrote back then. just sayin'
We are the largest data aggregation software serving all the education centers in Texas. We are Laravel stack. Everything works. PHP is as good as u can make it. Laravel just makes it so you dont pull your hair out trying to implement a queue system or something like that. It just works.
8:01 Yah, scaling is way better if you have a big wallet (and _can be_ far cheaper, in _that_ scenario). The reason is instead of paying say $4k/mo for a bunch of VPS to take care of your “worst case” high traffic scenario, you can instead setup a smaller cluster/service/whatever that will autoscale up as demand increases and (ideally, e.g. Cloud Run or maybe GKE Autopilot) set an upper limit to cap your expenses. Then you should hopefully be paying less overall instead optimizing for your high traffic scenario all the time (or having to manually scale up and down and etc). It all really depends, of course.
and btw php was first made as template engine for Perl. but author could imagine how people will use it. they asked more features (which template language was not for. like running sql queries from template?) but the good thing it become standalone language after
I personally dislike PHP mainly because it's what I used when I knew nothing about software and have nightmares from writing my dissertation project using PHP 5 with no frameworks, it's more likely just the stress of that time. That being said, I am currently writing PHP 8 and Go for work and after doing typescript for a couple of years, I can't help but feel like it's hilarious when I hear js/ts devs hate PHP without ever trying it because PHP is basically js if it was made for the server. I much prefer Go but it's overkill for a lot of things. PHP is probably the best all round server side scripting language available, Ruby and elixir very close but PHP is the most familiar for your average engineer. VPS is definitely the way for most use cases, also it helps keep in touch wit those engineering fundamentals, linux, networking and so on.
For personal websites php is the best choice - compare the price you get php web hosting to price of virtual private server that your spring boot app would need. I think what happens with php is that everybody tells php is bad and then new generation who has never done php themselves take it to be true without fact checking it themselves because if everybody says so then it must be true they assume.
I like php for little things. like adding basic search functionality to my otherwise static html+css website. just add a html form that directs to a search.php file which in turn dumps the results into a result.html file. I couldn’t see myself writing anything major in php tho
The people who say PHP sucks are the tech leads who tried it 25 years ago. Switched to Django, got annoyed, went to React 8 years ago and dug themselves into a cycle of never ending refactoring and now HAVE to like Javascript.
I feel like PHP is not an inherently bad language. It just get horribly abused. Mainly because its templating is so flexible that people mix all the logic and presentation into one giant unreadable and insecure mess.
did java and javascript for web development. came back to php and it felt wonderfull. laravel is nice. does look a lot like on rails but all the good stuff.
Why are tech people starting to make sense in 2024? Of course "serverless" is more expensive when you actually get traffic. Of course a $5 VPS is going to have a more predictable cost - precisely $5. If your needs exceed those $5 on a consisten basis, it means you need to scale up. Serverless only makes sense if you have an app where most of the time you have 5 users and for 30 minutes every month you have 2 million users. I don't know many apps like that.
PHP is a great tool for the things it does well. Also PHP is very palatable for frontend devs, being a scripting language its not too scary for people who have never done any REAL programming. Pros and cons with everything
PHP was bad, in its own way, because the guy who invented it came up with all the concepts for it by himself. Like, they existed in other common and standard programming languages - but the guy who came up with PHP didn't know any of these good standards and just came up with his own ways of doing things. And yeah, they were not always the best, but the #1 thing is that they were *different*.
Serverless cost explosion reminds me of my last employer pleading with vercel... 😆 And how the person responsible for the sudden spike got promoted to tech lead. I'm all for not having a blameless culture but Jesus, people! Recognize incompetence! (It wasn't the only thing he did.)
Back when PHP first evolved, it was definitely a great alternative to Perl (y’know, those old cgi-bin scripts) and IMHO far better featured than ASP (classic VBScript). There was also Java which I think caught on far more in “enterprise” settings, obviously also very feature rich. But as you said PHP is super easy to pick up which is why I think it really blew up back then.
ASP was also nice because you could call COM from it easily, and you could write the COM in C++. ADO was a common example of calling COM. All nasty old tech now though. Also it ran on Windows which meant you needed Windows Server and IIS (XP also came with IIS but not for prod)
PHP nowadays with dynamic typing is OPTIONAL and it is more advised to typehint your codes as it is now a standard recommendation but it still allow dynamic typing. Its a freebie that allow new developers to get in easily.
Trust me you want the mindless js mob to come to PHP to invent 50,000 packages so you start needing a phd to write a todo app. And then you can charge 300k a year to fix problems.
Developers rediscovering that PHP and PostgreSQL are good. What next? OOP?
imperative programming good
😂😂
programming, much like fashion, is cyclical
class decorators stage3 in JS
;))))
as someone who's been building with laravel for 2 months i can confidently say i made the worst mistake of my life when i listened to internet memes that php sucks bla bla
Laravel is the most beautiful thing i've ever come across and my ideas finally came to life
It's called propaganda,. They don't want LAMP stack to bypass their products
@@airaction6423 no i'm seriously the happiest i've ever been since i turned to PHP i'm building useful stuff now and don't waste my time
Ok, I know it's preferences but try symfony It has more modular structure and also have some nice features
@@wtfdoiputhere it has better documentation and also the community is good.
Symfony > Laravel to me ;)
I work in a company that uses PHP and I love it. We use PHP 8 with Laravel 9.
good stuff!
Time to upgrade we're on 11 now 😉
@@Cyapow I upgraded my company's system from Laravel 7 / PHP 7.4 to Laravel 11 / PHP 8.3 some months ago :). But that thing is still a mess inside ;(
Great combination
rails is next
Bro PHP is just good nowadays. It just works everywhere and all stacks supports it.
It’s funny, I’ve always used php (and wrote vanilla js) and only recently decided to move forward with “modern” tech like typescript and Lit (chose that instead or react for reasons), and now I see all these videos of people flocking back to php.
I always hated the boilerplate that comes with modern js stuff, the webpack or vue or whatever configs. But there’s obviously benefits
ColdFusion was the OG language for the web, not PHP. CF it’s first commercial out in 1995. By 1996 it was already on v2 and had its own IDE.
The first version of PHP that had more than one guy working on it didn’t come out until 97.
I’m an old and actually had a couple of “webmaster” jobs in the 90s. 😂. In the late 90s myself and some kids even younger than I was built a vacation auction website in ColdFusion.
I’m still in the biz in my mid 40s, most recently working in the Kubernetes/Go space.
Word
They have been working really hard to make the language great (not just good, but great).
Sorry but what’s not working everywhere? Python? Javascript? C#? Java? It’s not an advantage.
PHP landed my first job in IT, it has been running backend of my side gig for the last 15 years and it will always have a special place in my heart.
2024 is the year of serverlesslessness.
lol
Yes, programs will run on wood instead of transistors
@@airaction6423 bare wood
I fucking love PHP. It's my bread a butter. I used it at my previous company (it was a big company, 12,000 employees). We used Laravel to build a few microservices. Other teams used Ruby. I can tell you my team's microservices ran like well oiled engines. Probably the most reliable services in the company, along with other great systems other teams built in Go. Any new project I start, Laravel is my go to. I am Laravel's whore.
Agreed. I think that PHP has bad reputation simply because it's very easy to write bad and unsecure code in it. AI could help in this though, there aren't that many unsafe things that you need to pay attention too and if you were notified of it while writing your first app (and learning), it would be awesome.
The world used to much better when you only need PHP, CSS, HTML and a bit of JS to build a working web
I mean what's stopping you? Is there a reason it wouldn't make a "working web" anymore?
I still do it and it works perfectly fine.
For whatever reason this reminds of what Pieter Levels said on the podcast with Lex Fridman about frameworks paying dev influencers.
Sure, but have you tried Laravel? It's free 😜
if you also had newbalance shoes with knee-high developer socks, youd be unstoppable
Php started out as a templating engine. Now there's template engines for the template engine.
I can say 1st hand that laravel on digital Ocean is easy to set up. DO even has documentation to help you out.
I remember I also got curious about how to make a wordpress website from scratch (you know, without any website builders) and started learning php just for this. I ABSOLUTELY loved it and I understood why it had/has such a buzz in web development. It's so much better when you don't need an overly dynamic frontend.
Primeagent writing vanilla PHP?! *explodes*
I used to be a lead engineer at a small chemical company using PHP (LAMP stack). I was the only full time employee and then we only hired local under-grad interns. We were able to have those kids deliver useful code for the business daily within a week or two. Life was simple back then...
Vanilla PHP8 is also great.
I write vanilla PHP and I'm not apologising for it. No frameworks at all. PHP _is_ the framework.
same, at first I stole vanilla php with some parts of symfony and some other labs. Much better to pick and chose parts from different frameworks, than to go all in into one
I don't need framework for my website either. Just plain PHP. No need to care about packages, compilation, installation, version updates and so on. Make changes, upload it, it works. 24/7 in my case.
@@jan.tichavsky yeah, but you can still use composer. for once to have auto registering of your own classes. And once you have it, it's trivial to add 3rd party libraries.
you can even add some parts of other framewoks. For example I took just the translation component form symfony.
@@jan.tichavskysomeone who need to “sell you” technology, so when you go to some place, you promote the product, it gets famous and obtain a) more money for company support, b) obtain more money from investors. Simple as that… the real programmer needs keyboard, and head, native language is a tool.
When you're only serving a few million users each month, $5/month will do it. If you've got a few million customers, maybe $15 is well justified.
Underrated comment.
PERL was before PHP and PERL knew what they were doing, the PERL forces you to check all your input and it has done that before PHP existed.
PHP was my first language back in 2003. It was really all you had back then. I remember getting the Web 2.0 book, which started talking about XML request in JavaScript and showing how pages can change
Literally everyone and their dog were creating a language for the web just before the 2000's. And I've had the pleasure to work with a few of those languages that no one has seen and will hopefully never see.
0:50 Writing it like it was PHP 5.2?!? Not even 5.3 when it got namespaces and late static binding? You savage.
This is the crossroads where all developers find them after 10yrs. 😂
As a Laravel developer can confirm. I am really really nice.
In 1995 it was PHP and Coldfusion - two new languages designed specifically for writing web. Both still exist today, both fun to use, and quick to produce results, but also with bad reputation. If you want to have web site quickly, use PHP or CFML, then serve it off any Linux VPS.
I knew it, no one is this cool and not a closet PHP lover. Just look at that stash, says everything. Love Your Work!!
Wait I take it back, you used explode(). Curse you and you wonky keyboard!!!
Laravel can do serverless too. But it doesn't add a markup like Vercel does. It manages the lambdas on your own AWS account, at the same cost as when you'd create your own lambdas.
Rasmus Lerdorf from Disco created PHP and is the reason we have LIMIT clause in SQL!
My favorite usage for php is still just a single file for a simple API.
I don't really like the loosy goosy model-blade connection, was searching for quite a while for the error when the class file and the blade had a minor filename mismatch ... I prefer template+code in the same.
but migrations are great (especially since you can just return the class without classname), routing is good, I overall like very opinionated frameworks.
This is one of the great benefits of PHP. You want a simple single file where everything is mixed in? Go ahead. You want a simple front controller that routes to basic PHP files as templates? Also doable in less than a day. Want to do some CLI scripts? No problem. You want full fledged frameworks like laravel? You can do that too.
I have an enterprise inventory management platform for vehicles and laravel is at the heart of it. Honestly php has become my favorite "get it done" language
There's PHP... and then there's WordPress.
Shame there is no love for symfony.
back then i had the choice betweet php and asp... i choose php
bad choice to be honest. modern dotnet and c# are beautiful. I am working in PHP now but learning dotnet on the side for fun. c# has so much more syntactic sugar and langauge features compared to php, it's not even funny.
@@DavidSmith-ef4eh you do realise that php and c# are completely different languages? you might as well make a comparison between a strawberry and your left index finger :)
@@EricMaechler they started off the same. dotnet is literally Microsofts response to the popularity of php back in the days. Also, both are OOP with some functional elements. Both are c-like languages. For me they are very much similar. Specially since I know TS very well, and microsoft designed TS type system based on c# I am assuming. It's not 1-1, but similar enough.
From each scaling according to his ability, to each scaling according to his needs...
"small traffic". you cant even imagine the amount of tech giants running on PHP and Laravel
I did like PHP a lot. Even the language was horrible, it didn't matter because it was meant mostly for templating HTML, and it was just so CHEAP. Likely it is still the cheapest one make simple dynamic HTML pages on server and there is likely $1-$2/mo priced hosting available.
Perl loves to use all the punctuation.
New PHP is great! It's just that with PHP you have a higher probability of potentially getting clients with legacy codebases still running old PHP. Not all clients have the budget to continuously update the whole code base.
came to PHP at v4 (2002). Nothing else felt as powerful or easy to use. The ability to write just a few lines, return stuff from a database (postgresql natch) was such a revelation at that time. Everything else was so much harder. genuinely loved it for a few years. good times.
glad I'm not maintaining any of the code I wrote back then. just sayin'
The next take is the one thing I disagree with. It's insanely easy to dockerize and host outside of vercel.
We are the largest data aggregation software serving all the education centers in Texas. We are Laravel stack. Everything works. PHP is as good as u can make it. Laravel just makes it so you dont pull your hair out trying to implement a queue system or something like that. It just works.
8:01 Yah, scaling is way better if you have a big wallet (and _can be_ far cheaper, in _that_ scenario). The reason is instead of paying say $4k/mo for a bunch of VPS to take care of your “worst case” high traffic scenario, you can instead setup a smaller cluster/service/whatever that will autoscale up as demand increases and (ideally, e.g. Cloud Run or maybe GKE Autopilot) set an upper limit to cap your expenses. Then you should hopefully be paying less overall instead optimizing for your high traffic scenario all the time (or having to manually scale up and down and etc). It all really depends, of course.
Was told to use Laravel for an internal site. Hated it at first, but learned to love it. It's a good stack.
and btw php was first made as template engine for Perl. but author could imagine how people will use it. they asked more features (which template language was not for. like running sql queries from template?) but the good thing it become standalone language after
Prime shilling the php what a time to be alive, love you man
I personally dislike PHP mainly because it's what I used when I knew nothing about software and have nightmares from writing my dissertation project using PHP 5 with no frameworks, it's more likely just the stress of that time. That being said, I am currently writing PHP 8 and Go for work and after doing typescript for a couple of years, I can't help but feel like it's hilarious when I hear js/ts devs hate PHP without ever trying it because PHP is basically js if it was made for the server.
I much prefer Go but it's overkill for a lot of things. PHP is probably the best all round server side scripting language available, Ruby and elixir very close but PHP is the most familiar for your average engineer.
VPS is definitely the way for most use cases, also it helps keep in touch wit those engineering fundamentals, linux, networking and so on.
Blink 3 times if Otwell has your kids hostage
With inertia , js devs still have a chance since you can write react or vue together with laravel and php
8.4 has some great improvements coming.
For personal websites php is the best choice - compare the price you get php web hosting to price of virtual private server that your spring boot app would need. I think what happens with php is that everybody tells php is bad and then new generation who has never done php themselves take it to be true without fact checking it themselves because if everybody says so then it must be true they assume.
This guy just says it. Right in your face.
3:41 you can improve speed by quite a bit if you use Laravel Octane
Would love to see you build with Laravel as a tutorial
I'm probably wrong, but PHP was developed because designers where making styling changes in C (or something).
I like php for little things. like adding basic search functionality to my otherwise static html+css website. just add a html form that directs to a search.php file which in turn dumps the results into a result.html file.
I couldn’t see myself writing anything major in php tho
The people who say PHP sucks are the tech leads who tried it 25 years ago. Switched to Django, got annoyed, went to React 8 years ago and dug themselves into a cycle of never ending refactoring and now HAVE to like Javascript.
PHP can run in a shared webhost for like 5usd a year.
__ FLP DELETE ME OR LINK PROPERLY __ 👀
I feel like PHP is not an inherently bad language. It just get horribly abused. Mainly because its templating is so flexible that people mix all the logic and presentation into one giant unreadable and insecure mess.
Welcome to php back
5$ vps gang hell yeah
Let's be real, the most upset people are the rust and elixir people
The man is in the Arena
We feel dirty
did java and javascript for web development.
came back to php and it felt wonderfull.
laravel is nice. does look a lot like on rails but all the good stuff.
Thats the best start of the video i have ever heard 🤣🤣
PHP is only hated by those who never used PHP
I learning Laravel right now. So far I really like it. Anyone else learning Laravel?...what is your process to learn?
If you want Laravel to scale in a 5 dollars vps use octane and job using dispatch after response it will do the same as serverless
Why are tech people starting to make sense in 2024? Of course "serverless" is more expensive when you actually get traffic.
Of course a $5 VPS is going to have a more predictable cost - precisely $5. If your needs exceed those $5 on a consisten basis, it means you need to scale up.
Serverless only makes sense if you have an app where most of the time you have 5 users and for 30 minutes every month you have 2 million users. I don't know many apps like that.
Wasn't java designed specifically for the web? I mean after it was designed for tv sets.
You should stick it to the Big PHP and use Trongate Framework.
😂😂 David Connelly's Trongate - I almost fell for it when I learned PHP. He's delusional but knows what he is trying to do...
Give OVH a shot, they have some super beefy $10 VPS servers.
PHP is a great tool for the things it does well. Also PHP is very palatable for frontend devs, being a scripting language its not too scary for people who have never done any REAL programming. Pros and cons with everything
The name... Is the PHPagen
not trying to piss off JS devs it is just a bonus
2:17 oh my god you just explained to me what i could not figure out for years and that is why the Perl language looks so ugly.....
Laravel + Statamic = 👌
The Drip is solid! i love PHP. I hate frameworks and ecosystems.
PHP was bad, in its own way, because the guy who invented it came up with all the concepts for it by himself. Like, they existed in other common and standard programming languages - but the guy who came up with PHP didn't know any of these good standards and just came up with his own ways of doing things. And yeah, they were not always the best, but the #1 thing is that they were *different*.
I love laravel but after laraval 5 I had no time to learn another version and it going so fast
Why PHP when you can TurboPascal?
Tcl/tk
Laravel + HTMX + TailwindCSS?
I am surprised that htmx wasn’t mentioned or rust 😂
Serverless cost explosion reminds me of my last employer pleading with vercel... 😆
And how the person responsible for the sudden spike got promoted to tech lead. I'm all for not having a blameless culture but Jesus, people! Recognize incompetence! (It wasn't the only thing he did.)
However I don't use php anymore
why not go with django in that case. it comes with an excellent ORM and it gives you an admin panel to boot.
Why not use a different project in a different language that you have to host in a different way, owned by different people? Idk man you tell me.
SST MENTIONED
i pay 2 euro for a 2 virtual core and 80 gig SSD VPS on ionos
Back when PHP first evolved, it was definitely a great alternative to Perl (y’know, those old cgi-bin scripts) and IMHO far better featured than ASP (classic VBScript). There was also Java which I think caught on far more in “enterprise” settings, obviously also very feature rich. But as you said PHP is super easy to pick up which is why I think it really blew up back then.
ASP was also nice because you could call COM from it easily, and you could write the COM in C++. ADO was a common example of calling COM.
All nasty old tech now though.
Also it ran on Windows which meant you needed Windows Server and IIS (XP also came with IIS but not for prod)
@@georgehelyar Yeah. I remember writing Server.CreateObject(“ADODB.Connection”) repeatedly. Oh those were the good ole days…
if js devs are pissed off with someone using php then what kind of community is that?
The problem not in PHP itself, but in projects written in PHP.
why laravel and not django?
Why does bro look like he came out of a dumpster on that twitter picture 😭
I really wish PHP was strongly typed and had types similar to TS...
PHP nowadays with dynamic typing is OPTIONAL and it is more advised to typehint your codes as it is now a standard recommendation but it still allow dynamic typing. Its a freebie that allow new developers to get in easily.
As a PHP dev. Please don't choose PHP in india. Because there is no pay. Like seriously. You may earn more working in service industry.
You won’t keep my hands off of that sweet PHP gold
@@olbluelips I don't wanna take mine off either...but bills
Trust me you want the mindless js mob to come to PHP to invent 50,000 packages so you start needing a phd to write a todo app. And then you can charge 300k a year to fix problems.
I often see Laravel jobs in the US that pay between $150k and $200k.
And between $100k to $120 is extremely common.
Just gotta git gud like Pieter Levels and max out your skill points in PHP and max out your wallet points
sys admins hate laravel for a reason!
php is cool, but it has so many stupid things on it that really pisses me off...
PHP > JS
serverless? more like userless
I feel the strong presence of dark force in you! stop you must!!