Will PHP make YOU Rich in 2025?

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  • @StefanMischook
    @StefanMischook  วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Link to article: unclestef.com/blog/2024/10/25/will-php-make-you-rich-in-2025/

    • @Ezekiel-dude
      @Ezekiel-dude 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      I will probably end my life in a few days, but as my last note: nothing will make u rich anymore! its pointless. dont follow tech, people. do some uber driving and call it a day. working will never get you anywhere but hospital. keep it a bare minimum. no need to give too much effort. maybe that way, u will find peace finally

  • @sylvainbodji1124
    @sylvainbodji1124 วันที่ผ่านมา +41

    i just got a freelance gig from a new client a few days ago. i just copied a previous project and the same day i had the authentication system, security measures, routing , components, even the users table from the old project and everything in place. i will deploy the app in 2 weeks but told the client 30 days. simplicity and reusing old good code is key and speeds up execution

    • @lostinthenarrativve
      @lostinthenarrativve 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Plain PHP or laravel ?

    • @sylvainbodji1124
      @sylvainbodji1124 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@lostinthenarrativve lol React Js + node Js + myql, but i use very fundemmental stuff and dont add unecessary libraries. i keep my code very simple

    • @jiageng1997
      @jiageng1997 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      i hope the clients don't see this because they want you to build from scratch.

    • @sylvainbodji1124
      @sylvainbodji1124 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@jiageng1997 loool good devs don't build from scratch unless they really have to... they reuse, but yes you're right better client doesn't see this🤣

    • @burgular_the
      @burgular_the 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@jiageng1997 if he can copy-paste code from elsewhere to here then its reusable modular code AND/OR the company is doing nothing to differentiate itself in its industry. Either way, its good news for the OP

  • @the-code-reviewer
    @the-code-reviewer วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    People started talking so much about how PHP is not that bad, that PHP will get more popular :) I can tell you that even complex businesses use PHP in Romania. It's not going anywhere, it's just getting better :)

  • @josephp1263
    @josephp1263 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    I love really this channel. Makes you feel as if you have an uncle Stefan giving you advice. Kudos

  • @javabeanz8549
    @javabeanz8549 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

    As someone that has worked with PHP for nearly 20 years, I don't have any argument with where you see it going, or your design/development principles. As to security, the problems usually are generated by those who don't know PHP well, and do not use the proper methods and best practices. Like you said, PDO handles a lot of the SQL interface issues for us, but it has to be used properly. I got to convert a number of PHP 4.x code projects that were just horrific, into PHP 5.x back in the day. Also had to clean up a few hacks where code let user input slip through. PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, *never* trust user input!!!

    • @EtherTrade-g8d
      @EtherTrade-g8d 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      That's the whole point .. if you are on a programming language where you absolutely need granules control say for user input or whatever to be "cleaned" before use ... I'll tell you , you are living in the 90s because that's a waste of developer time, resources, and possibility of errors being introduced.
      You need a programming language that handles some default data cleaning steps by itself or modules which are available by somebody already developed it that you can trust

    • @EtherTrade-g8d
      @EtherTrade-g8d 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      That's the whole point .. if you are on a programming language where you absolutely need granules control say for user input or whatever to be "cleaned" before use ... I'll tell you , you are living in the 90s because that's a waste of developer time, resources, and possibility of errors being introduced.
      You need a programming language that takes care of such trivial tasks and makes your coding more efficient and faster along with being flexible and letting you handle minute detail as and when you need .. php is certainly not the one here

  • @galindoxrafa
    @galindoxrafa วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    Great video!! Thanks for sharing it with us!

  • @lavendercode
    @lavendercode วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    I'm going to check out PHP Laravel. Thanks

    • @christiehill7135
      @christiehill7135 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      You will not be disappointed :) I've been building web apps with it since Laravel v5 and it keeps getting better. It's a pleasure to work with.

    • @CyranicalGoated
      @CyranicalGoated วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@christiehill7135Do you use vuejs with it with Inertia.

  • @ciroelpersa3778
    @ciroelpersa3778 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    8:08 "your career choice should be largely dictated by how you like to live your life"

  • @ZeinotGaming
    @ZeinotGaming วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    PHP is the web greatest programming language ever, JS too but mostly for front-end stuff, i really dislike JS on the backend ... simply because there is no big MVC frameworks like Laravel or Rails for full stack JS... it is best to use an mvc and some framework if needed for js on the front, or in my case, i do not even use any frameworks and im just very well without them .... Vanilla JS is very capable on it's own and i like the fact that there is so many vanilla js libraries to help you with things so that's very cool always hated the fact that vanilla js libraries are very awkward to use with react/vue i want to be able to use them without a react wrapper .... or struggle because the port for that library is only compatible with old versions of react... more dependencies is a liability when you have so many things depending on each other it can become very fragile

    • @reyreyalldayday5708
      @reyreyalldayday5708 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Node, express, with sequelize or mongoose for non relational databases work just fine for most circumstances.

    • @Dgmstudios40
      @Dgmstudios40 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@reyreyalldayday5708 You need all of that plus more for what PHP does out of the box.

    • @Ababeel721
      @Ababeel721 วันที่ผ่านมา

      There is something similar to Laravel for JS its called AdonisJS not sure if you already know about this

    • @bestopinion9257
      @bestopinion9257 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I use Laravel for backend, Vue for frontend and Inertia in between. You send the $data from controller and arrives as props JS object in Vue component with pretty much same structure. Basically you make SPAs with Laravel.

    • @hanmajack935
      @hanmajack935 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Js has mvc framework Nest.js

  • @klesk0s
    @klesk0s วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Always the best advice out there! Love it :)

  • @dividsky
    @dividsky 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    I've been employed programming vanilla php/stack since 1997, and always have jobs to do, developments, security, etc. We must indeed update the code, like every language.

  • @neugey
    @neugey 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    10 thumbs up! If there is one piece of advice I would offer, it is to get a cheap dedicated server and start a side project that excites you. Mine is built in Laravel PHP with some AlpineJS. This allows you to flex your creative muscle and keep software development fun instead of burning out in your daytime career. Having something you can call your own and fully steer the direction of is important. Get back in touch with your inner 10-year old self who figured it out as he went on an Apple IIe. If riches eventually come your way, cool! if not that's fine too.

    • @StefanMischook
      @StefanMischook  21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Agreed! 👍

  • @toddboothbee1361
    @toddboothbee1361 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Rich is relative. I like hanging out in Portugal, where I am now. And don't need to slave to anyone other than myself, if I so choose. I have a house and no mortgage. That's rich enough for now, and possible because I've never been married. You don't need millions, just the recognition you won't live forever.

  • @mahor1221
    @mahor1221 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you for the video!

  • @sgagic
    @sgagic วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks Steph!

  • @r0zzin
    @r0zzin วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I think you said it before but not sure, you need a "Minimum viable product" first and can build from that. Get something out the door first and see if it is even something the market wants. If not you have learned some things and can go back to the drawing bored

  • @ozlemelih
    @ozlemelih วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    What about PCP?

  • @HumanOpinions-bz9ky
    @HumanOpinions-bz9ky 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    U DA MAN!

  • @DerFeindmarkierer
    @DerFeindmarkierer วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    LIGHT! NIMBLE! RUBY!!!!!!!!!!

  • @grimmdanny
    @grimmdanny วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Thanks, Unkie Steph. I've been coding in PHP since the 00's, and made a living off it.

    • @lostinthenarrativve
      @lostinthenarrativve 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      What other languages do you use on a regular basis ?

  • @mosesnandi
    @mosesnandi วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    A programming language itself won’t make you rich! It’s what you do with it. You can literally become rich with just HTML and CSS

    • @danielmbcn
      @danielmbcn วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Tell me, what kind of profitable app or website without any functionality do you build without using any programming language (no, CSS is not a programming language)?

    • @coder244
      @coder244 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I disagree...
      Just look at the pay scale of node js vs php dev in the market...
      I hear people often say language doesn't matter, but actually it does matter. What stack you're working on decides how much you're gonna get paid.

    • @danielmbcn
      @danielmbcn วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@coder244I believe he is talking about creating your own business, and in that case, the market doesn't care whether your app is made with Node or with PHP, but how well convinces the end users to put their credit card on the table.

    • @Davorge
      @Davorge วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@danielmbcn recipe website with 300 recipes, totally doable with static pages, can be profitable

    • @officialFSTV
      @officialFSTV 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@coder244You probably didn't watch the video to understand what he said, you only watched to respond. The emphasis is on solo entrepreneurs, small business owners and indiemakers who want to build app fast.

  • @Mrkirill578
    @Mrkirill578 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I was expected to hear about how there is a huge demand for devs to migrate some legacy PHP code. I am blown away that it is actually the other way around

  • @jamiemorrissey2858
    @jamiemorrissey2858 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    waddap, im in school still

  • @tomekkicaj700
    @tomekkicaj700 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Php will for sure make rich those who teach it , like uncle Stef😂😂😂

    • @bestopinion9257
      @bestopinion9257 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      well, the gold rush is going to an end. Nobody hires juniors these days.

  • @simonrbone
    @simonrbone วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great advice. I always suggest to new startups to use the simplest most common solution as1. the user really doesn't care WHAT tech you're using 2. you can hire good remote PHP developers for $10/h (just see how much more "exciting" tech stack developers cost :-/) - oh and maybe just get a fixed cost VPS or dedicated server vs. paying for cloud usage to control your costs

    • @Etcher
      @Etcher วันที่ผ่านมา

      $10/h developers are, more than likely, crap.

  • @alan-overthenet
    @alan-overthenet วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks, Uncle Steff,
    Good advice as always. I'm not sure how many will follow it, though-JavaScript, React, Next, Node... they’re in vogue and hard for many to pass up. There's that Fear of Missing Out, I suppose!
    That said, 'Old Al' here tends to wander... JavaScript, React, Next, Node, Express, Vue, Svelte, Python, Flask, Django, Java, Rust, and... RUUUUUBY :)
    And by the way, I love your hat! I was actually going to ask where you got it-no joke!"

  • @jmt2709
    @jmt2709 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It certainly could under the right circumstances! ….. TOTALLY agree with keeping it simple …. Why make the tasks at hand harder then necessary…. Getting back into PHP and starting with that KISS mindset …. I predict success!!!

  • @AGUNGKAYA
    @AGUNGKAYA วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    People outhere said that Angular is the best to learn since it is widely accepted in corporate environments

    • @jeremysmith54565
      @jeremysmith54565 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Is what I am going to try learning, going to be fun I think

    • @gilian2587
      @gilian2587 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Angular is a great typescript framework to learn.

    • @christiehill7135
      @christiehill7135 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The company I work at uses it for some of their stuff, but the applications I work on use Vue and PHP. I had to learn some Angular and really not enjoying it. It's complex and has a steep learning curve. It's not bad, however it is not what I would pick if it was up to me. It's really tiring to work with.

  • @dsmncihagt8187
    @dsmncihagt8187 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    gray shirt matches with the gray cap, which matches with the gray beard

  • @jcy089
    @jcy089 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I had an interview for AI engineer with Bvlgari. One of the questions was if I knew PHP and worked with Laravel. So yea, PHP can give you a good revenue in 2024 if you find a match 😉

  • @jeremysmith54565
    @jeremysmith54565 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Just migrating all the PHP work I did with Rocky Linux fun stuff lol

  • @bestopinion9257
    @bestopinion9257 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You better use a framework than building solo from scratch as a beginner. Otherwise you will make a weak application from a security point of view.

  • @dezly-macauley
    @dezly-macauley วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I'm giving myself a challenge. I'm going to start with Laravel (because that's the end goal), and learn PHP as I go.
    I think that's a more practical approach than starting with PHP and then releasing that I hate Laravel 🤷🏾‍♂️

    • @kambatukebele
      @kambatukebele วันที่ผ่านมา

      You will get lost. First start by understanding the core language and then move forward with the framework. Otherwise you waste a lot of time and you will end up quiting or relearning all again and again

    • @SiddharthPant
      @SiddharthPant 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      I will suggest first go through "PHP for Begginers" by Jeffery Way from laracasts. It really clears up what a backend framework in any language is doing for you(he makes you build a simple one from vanilla PHP). After that do "30 days to Laravel" from Laracasts. Both are freely available on youtube. And it will set you pretty nicely with most of the necessary fundamentals covered to start your own build journey.

    • @existentialism_01
      @existentialism_01 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      tho i have 0 experience about PHP, i would advise to learn language first and than frameworks

  • @hasnainiftikhar327
    @hasnainiftikhar327 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Hey Stefan Thanks for that video, what you think about PHP vs Flutter as job and freelance potential

  • @not_a_cool_handle
    @not_a_cool_handle วันที่ผ่านมา

    Finally lambo coming soon

  • @mokgatlha
    @mokgatlha 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Thanks, I agree to some an extent with what you say, the latest proliferation of coding support tools driven by AI would also be a factor. I am of the view that processing cost of php based web apps compared to other python based , java based, there seem to be a lot of complexity in that, to achieve the basic functionality now there is a lot more other things tools to use, often offered as SAAS, compare this with the most functionality in basic free tools of php and js

  • @radui7468
    @radui7468 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    PHP is great, I totally agree with you. Also with laravel is even better. The only problem is the salary. The salaries are the smallest in the industry. JavaScript, python, even RUBY developers have bigger salaries.
    Is there a way to go around that? Any ideas?

    • @StefanMischook
      @StefanMischook  ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Xps and negotiations.

  • @sparky4747
    @sparky4747 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If you build a to-do list app in Laravel the PHP fairy brings you a new Lambo.

  • @logato7128
    @logato7128 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Just a reminder, Facebook was initially built in PHP

  • @Jollyprez
    @Jollyprez วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Wouldn't call laravel "small and simple" - not at all.

    • @Ababeel721
      @Ababeel721 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      True but honestly speaking it can handle very big projects likes of bankıng portals etc, i am not php guy but i want to learn it

    • @Jollyprez
      @Jollyprez 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@Ababeel721 Won't argue with that. Use it at work, and using it for side-project upgrade ( from Slim / Angular1.x ). The latter has over 30,000 users and needs to start scaling.

  • @dragonhunter250utub
    @dragonhunter250utub 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    php is a store of value.

  • @andrejota1151
    @andrejota1151 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hi Stefan, whats your opinion on learning Laravel as a newbie to coding and getting started with SaaS.

  • @bhutchin1996
    @bhutchin1996 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Ruby = more servers needed

  • @ZettaiKatsu2013
    @ZettaiKatsu2013 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Over-engineering makes it impossible for juniors to understand how the company software works. Java, nexus, gradle, sonar, jQuery, javafx, Spring, a nightmare

  • @jeremysmith54565
    @jeremysmith54565 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Is what I really need to get at is doing that kind of stuff like database queries (making some kinds of things like limiting the kind of query base or of from the FROM part lol) and the caching is going to be interesting is something I really need to have a good go at.

  • @Harshhasteer
    @Harshhasteer 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Your PHP videos are 100 years old. I would love to learn from you. Are those videos still valid ?

    • @StefanMischook
      @StefanMischook  21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      169 years old. What I teach in PHP has not changed since I recorded the core course. That said, I do update aspects of all my training courses when needed. Fortunately for me, things are pretty stable now with regards to the languages. Good question!

  • @aleksandarstanisic1848
    @aleksandarstanisic1848 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Just want to survive 😂

  • @imdtap1448
    @imdtap1448 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I dont care about rich..but will it get me a stable, REMOTE from anywhere type of job...I've been playing with PHP a bit from Traversy, Laracast, and Geo...

  • @Ababeel721
    @Ababeel721 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hey Estef,
    Thank you for your videos they are really fun and full of insights to watch.
    I have a question if you could kindly help me answer it
    Right now i am learning vanila JS and i am kind of going well, i know how loops, functions, DOM, OOP works, after JS should i learn PHP for backend with Laravel? Would it be a good move or should i go for Python with Flask and Django?
    Which one you suggest?
    Note: i am a solo developer want to work as freelancer for time being unless untill to get a good job.
    Thank you
    Looking forward

  • @mrxw-m8b
    @mrxw-m8b วันที่ผ่านมา

    What is your opinion on recent wordpress drama
    could it effect php usage
    Also don't you recommend php in freelancing only
    so other languages could be used for someone's own business

  • @xr4nomad
    @xr4nomad วันที่ผ่านมา

    Well I dunno bout PHP never written PHP. Primarily python and c#. But lets not forget that 80% of the internet still runs on PHP. Bout getting rich off of it I think it ain't particularly about the language.

  • @lmpurply
    @lmpurply วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    the long answer: no

  • @bestopinion9257
    @bestopinion9257 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Problem is nobody hires juniors these days and the economy is going down. Plus AI makes juniors obsolete.

  • @claudiocatalani8395
    @claudiocatalani8395 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Useful! Thanks for sharing your 169 years of experience!

  • @bagzhansadvakassov1093
    @bagzhansadvakassov1093 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It's rust. )

  • @yahya-d3y
    @yahya-d3y วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Php is slow why not use go instead

    • @gilian2587
      @gilian2587 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      One can learn both. Opens up more market opportunities if you know both.

    • @yahya-d3y
      @yahya-d3y วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@gilian2587 what about freelancing, can we do a good job with go?

  • @azharalibhutto1209
    @azharalibhutto1209 วันที่ผ่านมา

    ❤❤

  • @nattsurfaren
    @nattsurfaren 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Coding will not make you rich but influencing will.

    • @StefanMischook
      @StefanMischook  21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Tell that to Musk, Gates, Zuckerberg … and your humble nerd influencer here, thought not close to the level of the aforementioned, was able to hang up his keyboard for bucks at 30 years old.

    • @nattsurfaren
      @nattsurfaren 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@StefanMischook Their coding skills had nothing to do with their success. It is right connections. Being at the right place at the right time. Yes having the right idea after market analysis is crucial but coding a MVP and releasing it on for example producthunt will do shit. Hoping more implementation will solve the situation is just stupid. You need to build your brand there is no other way and you do that by influencing. Musk, Gates and Zuckerberg are really good influencers.
      BTW You're a good influencer Stefan but Tell me your influencing skills had nothing do with it?

  • @illegalsmirf
    @illegalsmirf วันที่ผ่านมา

    No.

  • @pacceli2009
    @pacceli2009 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    PHP i am not so sure, but Ruby? that is for sure lol

  • @uspolitics
    @uspolitics วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hey Stef, I just want to let you know that I don't like you... 😊 However, I started watching your videos a few years ago when I decided to become a software engineer... the learning journey was tough, I was angry at you! Several years passed by, I learned to code, changed a couple employers and job titles. During the past 12 months me and my team were working on a startup... and just recently a startup was acquired for a few $ millions!!! Now I'm retired! Thank you Uncle! But I don't like you anyways! 😊

    • @StefanMischook
      @StefanMischook  วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Congratulations! Happy to hear I’ve been able to evoked anger in you towards me!

  • @hipertracker
    @hipertracker 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    PHP is ugly and inconsistent, prefix str_ vs not, CamelCase or snake_style, or both with underscore, it simply looks like shit.

  • @steadywinsdesign
    @steadywinsdesign วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    First.

  • @Adam-yf3ss
    @Adam-yf3ss วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Third.

  • @AnilChhetri-ql8gc
    @AnilChhetri-ql8gc วันที่ผ่านมา

    second

  • @jwoods9659
    @jwoods9659 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Yeppers you don't build REAL businesses on Next.js. Sure sites, some apps but not REAL Businesses.