Skaven vs Dark Elves & High Elves | NEW SKAVEN DOUBLE FEATURE - Total War Warhammer 2
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"How many Regiments of Renown will you bring?"
Turin: "Yes"
20RoR game when?
"The princess is getting rammed in the back ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)"
- Turin 2019
by giant rat balls
Tag teamed....
*BUTTER HER BREAD*
Teeth Breakers: Exist
40k Orks, Kharybdis and me: So much dakka...What can men do against such flashy bitz....
Dey’ze gonna wreck me teef!
This Skaven firing line is just brutal. Like something out of WW1 where waves of soldiers died mowed down by the machine guns.
Whole point of Skaven: while others are bringing knights, you bring machineguns.
Oh my God, that thumpnail is legendary
It's also lore accurate!
Felkon, after losing the first match:
Hmmm, this clearly needs Dragons...
Love that Chap, he's insane but makes it all work somehow
Treekin as a lynchpin. What a god.
Turin, warp lighting does 224 AP damage per lighting(5 lighting strikes on usual cast and 10 on OVC), so it's can be quite effective against monsters and large targets if you can make them not move around much. They also deal explosion damage around them with 5 normal and 20 AP damage. I once landed ovc WL on a stego and it did almost 2k damage, so satisfying.
Those ratling gunners can really shred some lettuce
13:23 Doomwheel blasts a friendly Rat-Ogre into oblivion
Wouldn’t be skaven without friendly fire.
15:39 "some of the silver helms will be reengaging some dragon ogres"
Clan Moulder: Hold my warpstone
Actually give it back *snorts*
Clan Moulder can hold my warpstone if they made dragon ogre abominations
@@QuestionableObject
In the lore, there are centaur like rat-ogres among the rarest builds. I used them once on the green table. 😬
Ratling Gunners are some of the coolest units in any TW #GitGitSum
What sound does the Skaven Rattling Machin gun do? RA-TA-TA-TA-TA-TA
TOUILLE when they reload? :D
@@aurex8937 YES-YES-YES-YES-YES-YES
"metaphorical steel chair" is now my favourite thing to say
17:16 I would like you to think carefully about what you just said
What? Sometimes you just have to tag team the princess from the rear.
A tag-teamed rear ram can be very effective sometimes!
See what you did there you dirtyyy
The best part of any new TWW content are the spicy memes and thumbnails.
2:52 um anyone else notice the awkward cannon facing the wrong way 🌚😭
How am I just noticing, you have the best thumbnails
Lord Skrolk, under the banner of Clan Mors, using Clan Skryre’s most exclusive weaponry. (With special guests from Clan Moulder and Clan Epishen)
I think this is a good DLC. As far as things go, both sides got some really nice pickups.
Now that being said, I do think this DLC is more generous to Skaven than Lizardmen, but that's more because even before the patch, the Lizardmen were absolutely a force to be reckoned with. They had some of the best infantry available, and their dinosaurs just helped them act like a wrecking ball through anything that wasn't built explicitly to chew through them. Their ranged options were frankly atrocious, but they didn't need it. They could trash-can infantry pretty much every time. With the new troops, they have better access to AP and that should go a long way towards helping them deal with the Dawi menace, and Chaos without breaking the bank on Temple Guard.
Skaven conversely has *terrible* infantry. Their best isn't even middle of the road for most factions. So this DLC dropping and giving them all those ranged tools to really compensate for that melee weakness and helping them mulch through those really heavy troops is a serious pickup. So while both factions got good things, Skaven really needed that hand because prior to this dropping, you really had to go for some cheesy kite builds to compete. Had to make a lot of use of artillery and forcing your opponent to keep switching where the fight was. Now? Set up the ratling guns and put them on that high-value target. Yeah, it'll only get one kill. But that one kill is something you simply didn't have the ability to deal with beforehand without investing massive amounts of money on multiple artillery pieces. They won't be able to compete with Wood Elves on the ranged front, since almost all of their good damage dealers are simply way too short range, but they'll be able to really chew through the meat wall.
This should all go a good ways towards shaking up the meta. Now? Well you have to actually try and guess what sort of build you're facing, rather than just stacking cavalry to rush through and shut down the Warp-Lightning cannons. Or bringing a heavy armor attrition build to chew down the Lizardmen.
Excellent, and as always great gameplay from Turin. Nice to see those Doomwheels keep rollin-rollin-rollin.
More generous? we got 3 units and great RoR, they got 6 new units. (without counting hero and new lord, lizardman also will have the freeLC of TiqTakTo's)
@@Milenos To be fair... This 3 new skaven units can dumpster all others xD Lizardman are literally bringing clubs to a gun fight xD
@@Milenos He meant generous in a competitive/power way not in a quantity way.
Even with all the stuff the Lizardmen got, in my opinion the Skaven stuff is 10 times more awesome.
Turin has that thumbnail game ON LOCK
Kill many elf things yes-yes gooooood
4:53 It's weird that a bunch of arrows coming down on the right side is doing so much more damage than when the ENTIRE unit is BATHED in fire.
Like just for the "we're going limp bizkit" x)
Jfk: in a car
Skaven: fucking DIE DIE
ok that second game was super depressing. dwarves are going to hvae no chance vs those chariots
Benjamin Master don't even talk about the chariots. I don't think they have any counter against the natty bubbo sharpshooters. No counter battery fire. Can't use gyros and their armor and shields means rangers can't threaten them
@@Thongger i agree, those jezzail ror is much more worrying than doomflayers in my opinion. I think that unit with stalk AND 300 range is just ridiculous idea.
Maybe you dwarf players have to use rightclick to move then instead of just turtle and ark
giant slayers: my time has come
@@aname848 Plague monk: So has mine
What you say at the start really sells this as one of the better DLC packs: options. Skaven now have more variety, like using their chariot contraptions like cavalry, or a layered gunline. Lizardmen finally have viable armies besides Kroq'gar with a Saurus frontline, like bringing Tictaq'to and playing for air superiority, or using red-crested skinks on the frontline to save money and go wider elsewhere. Gives both factions some much-needed toys to play with.
Hey brother I really enjoy watching your Warhammer videos alot, so thank you for that
You're one of the only 2 channels that I go to for my Warhammer nerd fix these days. The other being my man indiepride. In fact I have come to the conclusion, that you guys are alter egos/Yin and Yang because you're always calm collected and most of all kind and always respectful to your foes. Indiepride is all fiesty and enjoys ripping on and talking shit ALWAYS (though he isn't mean about it). So anyways sorry about my ramblings friend and thanks for posting these videos as I truly am appreciative of them. I sincerely hope that all is well with you and yours
Always good to see shades getting some love.
a very exciting video!
BEST THUMBNAILS IN THE GAME
The Limp Bizkit Doom Wheels KEEP ROLLING ROLLING ROLLING!!! yes yes YES!!!
AWESOME!
yeah, keed sound turned on , great battles :)
The doom wheels and doom flayers gives me 40k Ork vibes...
I am so eager to play this DLC......and I get a four day weekend for it too
17:17 nice
Wow get her from both ends/sides homie! Giddy Giddy Goo!
Wood elves in suicide watch.
Inb4 somebody asks why the High Elves have tree kin units.
I'll answer it now, Avelorn faction has access to tree kin units. (dryads, tree kin, and treemen)
Goood, Goooood, Your knowledge of the light side makes it easier to bring an end to your foes... dewit!
Tree-kin got a substantial offensive buff with that new patch.
i fucking love your thumbnails
the new unique of the skaven feel like game changer. i alway like to play them ranged, but since they where only close range unit i was feeling like it was kinda risky. but now with the jezzail and the gatling, you are so much safer.
People complaining about mobile chariots. People complaining about spirit leech, a tool against mobile chariots.
They see me rollin'
, they hatin'
Pound for pound slaveslingers are great IMO. Provided you only want the volume of fire, they should be more cost effective
Taking them to TOWN!
Skaven slaves slingers 1k missile damage not accounting focus fire bonuses with 105 unit. challenge is it's not armor piercing but that damage is devastating given you'll break the 100% damage bonus with just 3 units (300)of them firing at same target test it out with high armor reduction spells it's really formidable.
doom flayers on dryads = getting put in the woodchipper
15:40 "in the back the silver helms will be re-engaging with some of the dragon ogres
CA added 3-ways?
Hello im really wanting to learn and understand that formation you are using. Ive seen so many pros use it but ive never seen a guide for it.
13:23 rat ogre bottom left
at least the poor wood elves have some awnsers
I'm a simple man. I see a Turin double-header, I smash that "like" button.
Ratling Gunners need balancing, either a reduced model count or reduced ammo. They make Trollhammer Torpedoes look like wet noodles
FingerGuns I feel like waystalkers would destroy the new skaven
@@fruitloops1481 Yeh probably, but I probably wouldn't take them against WE anyway. I don't know how they work in table-top but I feel like they should be an anti-chaff unit not the god of all anti-large
FingerGuns Yeah but on the flip side they lost almost half their health on one shade volley, I think we’re just gonna have to play more carefully against skaven now. Obviously don’t charge Ratlings with a monster like the dude did in this video
That Karybdis *(spelling) was taken to 1/2 health in less than 2 inches of screen movement by ONLY 2 ranged units. I can't see waystalkers or any 2 units doing that
@@ckhawk00 so? Balance =/= every faction being the same
@Turin Is it worth using arty to blind fire ground where sharpshooter tracers are coming from?
If I were to guess, It would really come down to what kind of artillery and if you were willing to waste the shots. If Queen Bess or Hellcannon and you have your opponent focusing elsewhere on the battlefield, then maybe it would be worth it. Direct arty like cannons and warp lightning cannons won't do as well, I think.
i didn't get why he did go that heavy on bleaksword/affrelance.
he could have done sooooo much with just a chariot more
Call it “zappy mczapface”
I need the DLC to get the new units. That’s why I didn’t see any alaben snipers in my campaign
Should have brought the regiment of renown clanrats
THICC-IT KLAW 9:25
Nasty elf things trees hiss
This darkelf player knows his line up except black arc corsairs are the infantry for the ravager style dark elf play. All medium threat units great sync doomfire can lower armor and weapon damage so corsairs can have a field day.
There really is no need for anti large as shades focus fire is devastating if the enemy is to fast charge it with warlocks and run poison -24 speed for 10 sec.
so is going with skrolk and range heavy going to be the new meta for skaven ? shame there were never many tools given to the skavenfor the swarm side of their faction
If the skaven were both a ranged and a rush faction they’d be weaker in both respects because of it compared to if they were just one
Exactly this. I’d like to have 5 skavenslaves units to be free and go above the usual 20 units counter.
High Elves > Dark Elves confirmed!
I reiterate my point I made on a previous video, 2 match videos always have the first game win and the second lose, while I still enjoy the matches, knowing the outcome from the start ruins the suspense.
WHO is the most handsomest RAT BOIS!?
Breathe bro xD
Just going off general effectiveness for all situations. What would you take, a doomwheel or doomflayers
Personally I prefer the doomflayers. You lose the ranged burst attack but gain survivablity which imo is huge. I think doom wheels are still good just you can't have as many as the second battle did. A single unit model verus a multiply unit model is almost always gonna have better bang for your buck.
Just call the Doom Flayer & Doom Wheel build the "Doom Riders of Mors" build. It sounds better.
Ikit Claw on the Doom Wheel must from now on be referred to as, Fred Durst.
Would a frost pigeon been viable for that second map? something to slow the wheels, that or a light wiz net boy? Perhaps some bolt throwers for that long range ap
he doesnt slow
bolt throwers suck hard nowadays. Except for unti artillery shot I haven't seem them perform that well
Shouldn't Jezzails be able to take a bit of archer fire? I mean, they have really good armour and silver shields.
MOAR DAKK!!!
a match vs the blessed dread and i still dont see my papi fellheart :(
So, what I'm seeing is that if you want to win. Play Skaven and spam Weapon teams. The Warplocks fire faster than Thunders and Handgunners, and they have a longer range. The Ratling Gunners fucking lawnmower any kind of infantry that get anywhere near them and melt goddamn low model units.
Why did the high elf player even let their princess get killed in the second match??? They entirely chose to keep committing her to a fight they were already winning and lost her.
I have a strong, unpleasant feeling that rattlings and jezzails are going to get nerfed like doomfire warlocks and sisters of slaughter.
Lets hope not, They are strong but also have their own counters. If they get nerfed it would hurt Skaven a lot as these are the only things making skaven actually a strong enemy now.
@@Crunchymunchys They honestly might, or they will have to buff globadiers, because they almost extinct in matches now.
Zaaaaaap!
I have to be honest. These new units for skaven are just insane. I have a fear that if I get the new DLC the only thing I'll be fighting late game are skaven.
So are LM, fear not!
ive never played this game so pardon the stupid question: how did turin lose? at end of game he had fewer losses and almost twice as many units remaining. were his units less valuable/weaker than the other guy's?
Turin anyway you could recommend to CA that summons that aren't magical but instead came out of the ground that they break or flee or go back in the ground its really cringe that they die it take you out of the immersion.
Nerf treemen!
Dude they made skaven busted, why give them that much fire power?
Call them I.Z.Z.'s
Skaven firepower ain't much just chillwind upgraded 20 sec minus 40 reload skill fucking op spell.
Really think manticore mount is suicide can't hide spell casters with large hit box. Gotta be sneaky with dem sorceress.
To clarify Manticore do work for AI and players who play like ai.
Hiding in woods is really good I think in mp.
Have fun with the ratling guns boys, it's gonna get nerfed HARD. They are simply amazing to play with.
I doubt they will be nerfed. they cost 1k for the ROR unit and like 900 for the normal one. Its just the first time Skaven have a great answer to most units and now even weaker to cav charges. Most players just like to blob with too much infantry and because of it the Ratling gunners are strong. Imagine if that first game had some real cav to get around the slower infantry and not sending hero/monster into range of those burst damage Ratling gunners. At best the only thing that should be nerfed would be the armour pierce damage being converted into normal damage as if they receive a nerf they won't be a worth it unit for their cost.
It will be interesting to see how the meta shifts, but it seems like the Skaven and just a better Vampire Coast now.
JZ909 not exactly
so, with pausing and slow-mo the first battle was over after around 8min. Eg. 6 or 7min of actual gametime. Imho, that is faaar too quick for total war.
He played the first battle way better than his opponent did though. His opponent started the fight with his bigger units thinking that the AP weapons team and warp cannon wouldn't hurt LOL. It shows that he didn't respect Skaven until the second fight.
He really had a wrong pick he lost gold on those 2 large units(sorc)(tentacle hentai) which could have been 2 dark riders shield or no shield and enough money to upgrade 2 bleakswords to black arc corsairs.
Rarely see Asur win , is it just me or ?
retrohammer
Who's getting rammed in the back now?
Great vid man, but you talk faster than I can listen, lol.
Kinda lame how you can use warpgale on a unit that's not even in the air at the moment. Good play though.
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I can barely recognizes Skaven anymore- they on steroids now
Its wood elves not High elves !
Awesome video, just call them Nattys though. Saying the full RoR jezeels name each time is... a bit much :P
Anyone got the invite to his discord?
discord.gg/Mcf3hm
Jeezils are bluntly overpowered, especially rors they need to reduce range and accuracy.
Petrucci Ibiza
Every new DLC is always op
Especially compared to other supposedly ranged based factions. The dwarfs for example won't stand a chance against skaven if their ranged superiority is taken away from them
Or more players could use cavalry to hit from the rear and not let themselves get tied up on slaves thinking that the should win by smashing their head against a rock hoping it to crack before their skull does. Jeezils do very little damage and if you noticed, they weren't hitting those larger targets too often even when howling was casted. Its a new unit, you need a new strategy to beat it. Just like the second game, he started to respect the skaven and used a very good unit composition. and didn't let hero get focused without having support to help it if the dragon landed.
@@Crunchymunchys but now you are assuming that every faction has access to cavalry that is quick enough, is sturdy enough to finish the job and is cheap enough to make this whole endeavour worthwhile because the cavalry unit will most certainly not survive. And all this will only work if the skaven don't protect their backline succesfully, that's unlikely because protecting your backline from an unsuported cavalry charge really isn't that difficult. Another thing to consider is that the ror jezails are so good they are a must bring, while a cavalry charge might be able to deal with normal jezails, it certainly won't survive long enough to first find and then take out the ror jezails.