I don't know about you, guys, but I adored every moment of seing the interaction between Hatice and Gul Agha. Her small smile upon seeing him, her brow rising in amusement before calling out to him, her chuckle upon seeing him standing up when she startles him, her gesture for him to come closer. Ah, Hatice...Those were the good days.
Let's put something clear. Mahidevran was NEVER a sultana. None of the concubines were until the Haseki title came up with Hurrem. They could be a principal consort (which the Sultan only could have four) and favourites. The only female Sultanas who actually had the title were the Valide (being the first one Hafsa Sultan) and the sisters and daugthers of the Sultan. The firts concubine to recive the Sultana name was Hurrem, but this was only after she married Suleiman and became his lawfull wife, his firts woman, only above the Valide. Haseki made Hurrem more powerfull than the Sultan's sisters, they needed to bown to her after this. After the marriage Hurrem was more powerfull than any other woman in the harem, except for the Valide. You could take the Sultana Haseki as an equivalent of a "Queen", while the other concubines like Mahidevran were mere "consorts"
Sisters never bowed to haseki , otherwise mihrimah would never had high status than nurbanu . They were powerful but they had to respect dynasty daughters. And Suleiman broke the traditions to marry concubine, it was forbidden but they could marry free, Muslim woman , almost every sultan married before Suleiman even more than once , they also had concubines . And they had to follow rule one woman one son . And there are 4 sources about mahidevran origin and 3 of them say that she was married to Suleiman when he was prince . Also in Manisa , amasya and karaman people used to call her valide sultan not because she was mother of heir but because of her contributions , Mustafa is believed to be an only prince who got love and respect by everyone that no one got on whole dynasty and many personalities wrote mahidevran his strength Ayse hafsa sultan was the first woman who got sultan title and same goes for her daughters ( first time sultan title was used with imperial princess for sultan Selim daughters) . Hurrem became haseki as Suleiman broke tradition after his mother's death and married her , and he had more than one son with her . She was the first concubine to marry sultan , but she wasn't first woman to marry .
@@barkaatahmed8137 thank you, from what I could read, although not as specialistically as you, I can say your research is the most accurate. Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge, here!
@@barkaatahmed8137 The sisters of the Sultan could take on the role of Valide Sultan if the position was vacant, for example like Mihrimah did. The position of the Valide was higher than that of the Haseki, so because of this Mihrimah was higher in status than Nurbanu. In normal cases, the Hasekis were ranked above the sisters of the Sultan, but the Mihrimah case was not normal since she was a princess who took on the role of the Valide. Even Hasekis could take on the role of the Valide, like Hurrem did during Suleiman's reign, and that gave them even more power. You are not correct when you say the daughters of the Sultan first got the Sultana title during Suleiman's reign, we clearly have records of princesses being called Sultanas before that, for example the daughters of Sultan Bayezid II (grandfather of Suleiman) all had Sultan as their title, for example Aynisah Sultan.
@@eurechMihrimah is powerful because she is Sultan's daughter and Sultan's sister, she is not a valide sultan Princes and valide sultan have the same rank
I adored every moment of it. Her small smile upon seeing him, her brow rising in amusement before calling out to him, her chuckle upon seeing him standing up when she startles him, her gesture for him to come closer. Ah, Hatice...Those were the good days.
I think the maker of this show is sympathetic towards Mahidevran 😂 that's why Mahidevran is presented as a Sultana and almost a wife and haseki 😂 But in reality she was neither a Sultana nor a wife (haseki) 😂 How pity ,
@@zainablocca6584 in the series they called her Haseki Sultan and that's piss me of xD when she came back Manisa they called her Haseki. When she beat up Hurrem and Suleyman wanted Mahidevran to leave harem, Valide told him that he can't do this because Mahi is Haseki, his wife. She called once or twice alias Haseki. The writers of the show really suck with coming with decision to call Mahi per "Sultana" and "Haseki". I'm so annoy when I'm hearing someone called Mahidevran like this. And never in her life she was a chief of the harem, but in series they also change that xD so dumb
@@zainablocca6584 and of course I didn't call you dumb, sorry if it sounds like that. Decision of directors and scenarios were dumb. English isn't my first language so my grammar and vocabulary are so bad haha
I love how hafsa used to be so happy after hearing the prosperity of sultanate and happinesses of people used to be happy about suleiman good service to his people unlike kosem who was always jealous of Murat they showed hafsa an enemy to hurrem still she didn't exceed the limit she didn't harm her own blood( hurrem's children) to tease her she didn't fall to such level this love of hafsa for her blood and also hurrem's love for her family makes me feel so good after watching kosem being totally absorbed by greed of power and hurting her own family
Well, where or when did Mahi get "mad out of jealousy"? 🤣🤣🤣 She was eternally jealous of Hurrem, to begin with, so this occasion wasn't much of an example of her envy compared to her past tantrums. I should think, instead, it was Hurrem who became a little jealous of the other woman and took initiative to do charity works herself, too.
There is something contrary here .. Mahi wasn’t free but she did charity .. hurrem asked suleyman to free her .. to do charity .. mahi was also concubine
Mahidevran aint jealous nor mad in this video? It’s the other way around. Also... I can’t stand what they did to Hurrem. In this show she’s such a crappy human being. Who does charity work for fame? She’s so egocentric. Yikes its shameful to the real Hurrem.
Finally someone who agrees. I don’t like the Hurrem in this series. She wasn’t like this in reality. They made me hate her no matter how hard I tried to like her because I know she was a very cultured and intelligent woman who cared for the poor, not this spoiled power hungry woman
@@rubaiyasahnama2616 mahidevran was a princess before! She was sent to Suleman by her family! Valide sultan was also a princess but i don't know if they were from the same place.
@@nesrinebk2743 in her biography she was not a princess. She was from Circassia or Montenegro and became one of Sulaiman's harem in Manisa whe he was a sehzade sent to his sanjak. Mahidevran was chosen by Valide Hafsa as gift to Sulaiman in his governorship in Manisa. So if she came from Circassia or Montenegro and came to the palace harem, then she is a slave. Valide favored her over Hurrem because of Mustafa the heir to the throne. But not in real life. Valide and Hurrem have a closed relationship as mother and daughter.
@@terecuarinta3749 i don't know if a princess is the right word but both mahidevran and valide sultan came from noble muslim families and not purchased as the other jawari "slaves". Contrary to what is said in the series muslim women could be jawari too. And yes they were all equals. I was just telling the op why mahidevran would feel superior to the other girls. Ps : the thing about the slaves not being allowed to make donations is also made up.
I imagine life for Chinese concubines was a little less boring most were so busy backstabbing each other to win the emperor's favor. Check out Ruyi's love in the palace Chinese TV miniseries. Also the movie Raise the Red Lantern.
In real hystory, of course, none of that happened. :) Mahi couldn`t get the right for charity INSTEAD of or before Hurrem, because she was mere slave, and as they had said before themselves(!), no slave could recieve such right. And since Mahi never got free status, she never could do any charity. So, ALL of this story about Mahi`s charity is fictional. Real Hurrem didn`t have to fight for ANY rights in harem (and in state!), because Suley had already given her EVERY right, both possible and impossible ones for those times :), BEFORE she even could ask. Hurrem`s revolutionary rights for being a statesperson are not even shown in this film! Here she`s mostly portrayed as a hysterical bad-tempered big-haired somebody, who is very apt at playing sly tricks, and desperately trying to keep Suley`s love at all costs, because only that could protect her from "evil everybody". :))) - That`s completely untrue to real hystory, in which Hurrem was MUCH more powerful, reasonable, noble, brilliant and loved by people than it`s shown here... you know, - DRAMA rules here and those, who crave for it, keep watching. :))) So do I. :))) but at least I don`t forget the real hystory...
She's Haseki Hurrem Sultan. The Sultan's legal lawfully wedded wife,mother of four princes, mother of future sultan,Sultan Selim II,a free woman. One of the most powerful Ottoman Queens and the pioneer of the Sultanate of Women. The original Haseki. That's who she is!
Do you know the history of Hurrem and what she accomplished? I assuming with the last name "Haji", you've been to Hajj. Isn't that boasting you've did something that many are too poor to do?
@Hanzala Munir you need to read real history. Don't say anything based on drama. It's mostly fictional. She was really different how they have shown her in drama. And that's why case was file against this drama.
Zakariya Haji , you do know that this is a tv show right? In real history she did charity work for good reasons. This is all just mostly fake from this show.
IMO (relating to this series), Hurrem was envious of Mahidevran's charity. She had made a vow that if Suleyman came back alive from his campaign, she would give to charity, particularly to Mecca, the holy land & Hurrem wanted to fulfill the vow. But Valide will only 'support' her provided the head of the religious body gave his permission & Hurrem will need to write to him. Valide knew full well that a slave was not allowed to give charity to the holy land. So she was actually trying to embarrass & make a fool of Hurrem. Mahi, Hatice & Gulfem's facial expression knew what Valide was up to. Poor Hurrem, all the 4 ladies were ganging up against her. It's no wonder she fought back to survive in such a vile place!
Hurrem is a fighter, she didn't ask for this, but the sultan favored her. Open for opportunity. She's beautiful, smart, witty, kind and loving. In her situation she has to fight against her enemies. Number one enemy is the mother.she dislike Hurrem so much. Feel treathen of Hurrems beauty and grace. Huh...
The family of sultan Suleiman would have been proud but the two witches came mahidevran and hurrem and now the family are suffering because of the two witches
If not of the two witches, there is no MC series, if there is no hurrem-mahidevran the show is boring, no rivalry, no jealousy, no provocative talking, no fights. The show will be so dull and boring.
Mahidevran only did charity locally. Hurrem wanted bigger and wanted to do charity in Holy Lands (outside their country). That is why it needs permission.
I don't know about you, guys, but I adored every moment of seing the interaction between Hatice and Gul Agha. Her small smile upon seeing him, her brow rising in amusement before calling out to him, her chuckle upon seeing him standing up when she startles him, her gesture for him to come closer. Ah, Hatice...Those were the good days.
Let's put something clear. Mahidevran was NEVER a sultana. None of the concubines were until the Haseki title came up with Hurrem. They could be a principal consort (which the Sultan only could have four) and favourites. The only female Sultanas who actually had the title were the Valide (being the first one Hafsa Sultan) and the sisters and daugthers of the Sultan. The firts concubine to recive the Sultana name was Hurrem, but this was only after she married Suleiman and became his lawfull wife, his firts woman, only above the Valide. Haseki made Hurrem more powerfull than the Sultan's sisters, they needed to bown to her after this. After the marriage Hurrem was more powerfull than any other woman in the harem, except for the Valide. You could take the Sultana Haseki as an equivalent of a "Queen", while the other concubines like Mahidevran were mere "consorts"
Really? The sisters had to bow down to her? I didn't know this..thank you
Sisters never bowed to haseki , otherwise mihrimah would never had high status than nurbanu . They were powerful but they had to respect dynasty daughters. And Suleiman broke the traditions to marry concubine, it was forbidden but they could marry free, Muslim woman , almost every sultan married before Suleiman even more than once , they also had concubines . And they had to follow rule one woman one son . And there are 4 sources about mahidevran origin and 3 of them say that she was married to Suleiman when he was prince . Also in Manisa , amasya and karaman people used to call her valide sultan not because she was mother of heir but because of her contributions , Mustafa is believed to be an only prince who got love and respect by everyone that no one got on whole dynasty and many personalities wrote mahidevran his strength Ayse hafsa sultan was the first woman who got sultan title and same goes for her daughters ( first time sultan title was used with imperial princess for sultan Selim daughters) . Hurrem became haseki as Suleiman broke tradition after his mother's death and married her , and he had more than one son with her . She was the first concubine to marry sultan , but she wasn't first woman to marry .
@@barkaatahmed8137 thank you, from what I could read, although not as specialistically as you, I can say your research is the most accurate. Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge, here!
@@barkaatahmed8137 The sisters of the Sultan could take on the role of Valide Sultan if the position was vacant, for example like Mihrimah did. The position of the Valide was higher than that of the Haseki, so because of this Mihrimah was higher in status than Nurbanu. In normal cases, the Hasekis were ranked above the sisters of the Sultan, but the Mihrimah case was not normal since she was a princess who took on the role of the Valide. Even Hasekis could take on the role of the Valide, like Hurrem did during Suleiman's reign, and that gave them even more power.
You are not correct when you say the daughters of the Sultan first got the Sultana title during Suleiman's reign, we clearly have records of princesses being called Sultanas before that, for example the daughters of Sultan Bayezid II (grandfather of Suleiman) all had Sultan as their title, for example Aynisah Sultan.
@@eurechMihrimah is powerful because she is Sultan's daughter and Sultan's sister, she is not a valide sultan
Princes and valide sultan have the same rank
is no one talking bout how hilarious it was when hatice called out Gul Aga😂😂
Exactly heehee😆😆
He just wanted to chill 😂😂😂
🤣🤣🤣
I adored every moment of it. Her small smile upon seeing him, her brow rising in amusement before calling out to him, her chuckle upon seeing him standing up when she startles him, her gesture for him to come closer. Ah, Hatice...Those were the good days.
Hatice is a great example of how sadness can fade one's beauty.
I really like hurrem proud face😆
Thats why most in the harem hated her😅. They want hurrem always bow her head down just like ordinary concubines
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Didn't know pride was such a great quality!!
Sumbul's mincing tiptoe walk cracks me up 🤣🤣🤣
walk like flying in the air..
The kitchen life is more interesting than other places of harem.
Since i already watched until the last part of Hatice , IMO, Hatice is an example of a selfish person.
I love the eye of hurrem color blue she’s beautiful
Blue or green?
@@pahrujamil5943 ???you didn’t see??
@@jooo3691 but i see green colour eyes
@@pahrujamil5943They are blue.
Hurrem is best 😘😘😘
I think the maker of this show is sympathetic towards Mahidevran 😂 that's why Mahidevran is presented as a Sultana and almost a wife and haseki 😂
But in reality she was neither a Sultana nor a wife (haseki) 😂
How pity ,
she’s not his wife in the show- she’s the mother of a prince, she never married suleyman
They just made the series appealing
@@zainablocca6584 in the series they called her Haseki Sultan and that's piss me of xD when she came back Manisa they called her Haseki. When she beat up Hurrem and Suleyman wanted Mahidevran to leave harem, Valide told him that he can't do this because Mahi is Haseki, his wife. She called once or twice alias Haseki. The writers of the show really suck with coming with decision to call Mahi per "Sultana" and "Haseki". I'm so annoy when I'm hearing someone called Mahidevran like this. And never in her life she was a chief of the harem, but in series they also change that xD so dumb
@@zainablocca6584 and of course I didn't call you dumb, sorry if it sounds like that. Decision of directors and scenarios were dumb. English isn't my first language so my grammar and vocabulary are so bad haha
Additionally mahidevran is allowed to do charity as a slave but hurrem is not allowed? How it is possible?
I love how hafsa used to be so happy after hearing the prosperity of sultanate and happinesses of people used to be happy about suleiman good service to his people unlike kosem who was always jealous of Murat they showed hafsa an enemy to hurrem still she didn't exceed the limit she didn't harm her own blood( hurrem's children) to tease her she didn't fall to such level this love of hafsa for her blood and also hurrem's love for her family makes me feel so good after watching kosem being totally absorbed by greed of power and hurting her own family
Well, where or when did Mahi get "mad out of jealousy"? 🤣🤣🤣 She was eternally jealous of Hurrem, to begin with, so this occasion wasn't much of an example of her envy compared to her past tantrums. I should think, instead, it was Hurrem who became a little jealous of the other woman and took initiative to do charity works herself, too.
There is something contrary here ..
Mahi wasn’t free but she did charity .. hurrem asked suleyman to free her .. to do charity ..
mahi was also concubine
She wants in Meka and Medina(holy land). Thats why
The difference is Hurrem wanted to do charity in places she wasn't allowed to go to as a slave, but can do so as a free woman.
@@princess7jasmine being a slave cannot enter holy lands ... thank god wasn’t born
I swear that aquamarine satin and velvet dress got passed around so much (Hatiçe, Mahidevran and Mihrimah) I do think that it looked the best on Nur
On this episode, i see mahidevran, Hatice, hurem, gulfem,Nigar and All women Ferry Beautiful.
Hurrem is the most beatiful person in the palace
NO. MAHI IS
@@lalalandh5125 NO. HURREM IS
Mahidevran is the most beautiful person !😍😍😍😍🥰👸😘💎🌹😇🔝❤👑
@@luizadoca210 NO. HURREM IS!
@@user-jk6iu6lf6b , în your mind!😂
So even during Uncle Sulejman's time Sheker Agha had a sous chef and a bunch of line/prep cooks. How adorable.
Hurrem Will always be the cheerful one❤️❤️
Very sad these two women did not team up
Mahidevran aint jealous nor mad in this video? It’s the other way around. Also... I can’t stand what they did to Hurrem. In this show she’s such a crappy human being. Who does charity work for fame? She’s so egocentric. Yikes its shameful to the real Hurrem.
Finally someone who agrees. I don’t like the Hurrem in this series. She wasn’t like this in reality. They made me hate her no matter how hard I tried to like her because I know she was a very cultured and intelligent woman who cared for the poor, not this spoiled power hungry woman
Mahidevran also do charity for her ego, to have people talk about her, theyre all the same.
Does Mahidevran always sit on the floor when she is with Valide? I just noticed that today.
In this reason why Hurrem freed ...they put hurrem higher😂
hatice /mortisha adams
Mahidevran was not even a Sultana , nor a wife
Yes .but why valida support mahidevran?mahidevran and hurrem both are slaves this time. If mahidevran allowed for do charity then why not hurrem
@@rubaiyasahnama2616 mahidevran was a princess before! She was sent to Suleman by her family! Valide sultan was also a princess but i don't know if they were from the same place.
@@rubaiyasahnama2616 in this show mahidevran was not a slave, the show made her a sultana and haseki.
@@nesrinebk2743 in her biography she was not a princess. She was from Circassia or Montenegro and became one of Sulaiman's harem in Manisa whe he was a sehzade sent to his sanjak. Mahidevran was chosen by Valide Hafsa as gift to Sulaiman in his governorship in Manisa. So if she came from Circassia or Montenegro and came to the palace harem, then she is a slave. Valide favored her over Hurrem because of Mustafa the heir to the throne. But not in real life. Valide and Hurrem have a closed relationship as mother and daughter.
@@terecuarinta3749 i don't know if a princess is the right word but both mahidevran and valide sultan came from noble muslim families and not purchased as the other jawari "slaves".
Contrary to what is said in the series muslim women could be jawari too.
And yes they were all equals. I was just telling the op why mahidevran would feel superior to the other girls.
Ps : the thing about the slaves not being allowed to make donations is also made up.
In history Hürrem has did charity was send to Holy City Mecca I'm forget what kind is it
What a boring life of that concubines
What do they do all day?
nah the other low rank concubines are enjoying the topkapi tea 🍵
I imagine life for Chinese concubines was a little less boring most were so busy backstabbing each other to win the emperor's favor. Check out Ruyi's love in the palace Chinese TV miniseries. Also the movie Raise the Red Lantern.
@@teejay5432 they do household works
@@nelliethursday1812 I love that movie
can anyone tell me which episode this is, because the link doesn't work
me dont like valide sultan because she alway protect mahidevran.. and hurem is like anemy to her.. bias person.
They are all jealous of hr, even the Valid !
In real hystory, of course, none of that happened. :)
Mahi couldn`t get the right for charity INSTEAD of or before Hurrem, because she was mere slave, and as they had said before themselves(!), no slave could recieve such right.
And since Mahi never got free status, she never could do any charity. So, ALL of this story about Mahi`s charity is fictional.
Real Hurrem didn`t have to fight for ANY rights in harem (and in state!), because Suley had already given her EVERY right, both possible and impossible ones for those times :), BEFORE she even could ask.
Hurrem`s revolutionary rights for being a statesperson are not even shown in this film! Here she`s mostly portrayed as a hysterical bad-tempered big-haired somebody, who is very apt at playing sly tricks, and desperately trying to keep Suley`s love at all costs, because only that could protect her from "evil everybody". :))) - That`s completely untrue to real hystory, in which Hurrem was MUCH more powerful, reasonable, noble, brilliant and loved by people than it`s shown here... you know, - DRAMA rules here and those, who crave for it, keep watching. :))) So do I. :))) but at least I don`t forget the real hystory...
The actress who plays Mahidevran is truly gorgeous.
She is Turkish german.
Love gul aga
Which is wrong allah said do charoty privately also jealousy is a disease of the heart
Aap Allah ka pahla letter A capital kur lain r capital hee likha karain plz
Plz write the first letter of Allah A capital plz
Edit ur comment and correct ur mistake plz
also God but for some reason people post it on fb,ig, youtube and tik tok like crazy when they do some "Charity"
This is a show dear😊
Very hilarious aga😄
Why were women in the imperial kingdoms reduced to hating each other
"Speaking of Cow.. Where is he?" And Sumbul appears oh my god... these eunuchs a nd they're drama!!!
Who is she to do charity work to Kaaba.
Allah bless your soul walida hafsa sultan
🤪🤪🤪
Btw she did some work in Mekka❤
She's Haseki Hurrem Sultan.
The Sultan's legal lawfully wedded wife,mother of four princes, mother of future sultan,Sultan Selim II,a free woman.
One of the most powerful Ottoman Queens and the pioneer of the Sultanate of Women. The original Haseki.
That's who she is!
Maria anyone can do charity. Guess you are not good human
@@sujathavijayan5921 Maria just repeated the dialogue
The series are so cliche and boring but the characters and their features are so unique
Lots of spelling mistakes
Sultanna. Que grasiosos. Pero que malditos todos, todos contra todos. El Imperio, algun dia terminará. 🤣🤣😂🤣😂
Jajaja
Hurran jyda jelous krti thi.. mahedora se ... Kyoki usko hr chis whi chahiye thi jo..... Mahedora ke pass thi.....
Well said
Even she said once that may mustafa will her son
Hurrem never did it out of kindness she did it out of jealousy and she wanted more fame
Do you know the history of Hurrem and what she accomplished? I assuming with the last name "Haji", you've been to Hajj. Isn't that boasting you've did something that many are too poor to do?
@Hanzala Munir you need to read real history. Don't say anything based on drama. It's mostly fictional. She was really different how they have shown her in drama. And that's why case was file against this drama.
Zakariya Haji , you do know that this is a tv show right? In real history she did charity work for good reasons. This is all just mostly fake from this show.
IMO (relating to this series), Hurrem was envious of Mahidevran's charity. She had made a vow that if Suleyman came back alive from his campaign, she would give to charity, particularly to Mecca, the holy land & Hurrem wanted to fulfill the vow. But Valide will only 'support' her provided the head of the religious body gave his permission & Hurrem will need to write to him. Valide knew full well that a slave was not allowed to give charity to the holy land. So she was actually trying to embarrass & make a fool of Hurrem. Mahi, Hatice & Gulfem's facial expression knew what Valide was up to. Poor Hurrem, all the 4 ladies were ganging up against her. It's no wonder she fought back to survive in such a vile place!
Hurrem is a fighter, she didn't ask for this, but the sultan favored her. Open for opportunity. She's beautiful, smart, witty, kind and loving. In her situation she has to fight against her enemies. Number one enemy is the mother.she dislike Hurrem so much. Feel treathen of Hurrems beauty and grace. Huh...
no perden! oportunidad de puterase!
I think she wants the charity thing.....in order to get the honor for herself and not for doing good!
Really botttt? Go read history! Hurrem did milllions charities for people! Lmaooo
Lmaoooo! Hurrem did many charitied for 40 years! She was always kiind! Read history! Hahaha
Hurrem had a soft heart for poor, go & read about it
Ya quk komik gyl aga
The family of sultan Suleiman would have been proud but the two witches came mahidevran and hurrem and now the family are suffering because of the two witches
That's it. basically After the hurrem came harem is going to hell
Yes . People praising hurremm but
If not of the two witches, there is no MC series, if there is no hurrem-mahidevran the show is boring, no rivalry, no jealousy, no provocative talking, no fights. The show will be so dull and boring.
@@ananthiskidslunchideas3342 hurrem is the lead actress, without hurrem, no MC drama series, lol🤣🤣🤣
Махидевран не ведьма
i pity Mahidevran, she was a witch, but not so much as Hürrem
Hurrem was never whitch! She was smartest! Hahahaha
Hurrem is always beautiful
I cannot understand. Mahidevran was also a slave. Why she could have charity works but hurrem couldn't
Mahidevran only did charity locally. Hurrem wanted bigger and wanted to do charity in Holy Lands (outside their country). That is why it needs permission.
Hurremwas the one who was jaloues from mahidevran charities so she foolef suly in that way
H breathes
M jealous
Уо3 у коуьуул. Кькокк 3кл
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😂хюрем хитрая завистливая