hey man it's super cool to see other lore youtubers here commenting and charing their thoughts and feelings, also your videos are truly some of the best
Spiral? Like how a new born gets bigger by eating and sleeping and eating and sleeping. Until it makes a mimic of itself in the form of another new born. And childbirth is painful. Growing up is painful. Dying is painful. Who's crying? All of us!
this feels like a video essay for the phrase: ''Imitation is the greatest form of flattery.'' but if you just decided to cut it down to ''imitation is the greatest form.''. And I'm here for it. Good job.
@@Zythryl Yes. I’ve seen many hour(s)-long essays on this platform that left me feeling like I could have watched a 15-minute summary instead and gotten the same experience.
This was like an everything everywhere all at once moment lol I love it! It’s still so shocking to me to hear my voice in the end track! Can’t wait to see what you do next!
It's charming in a way, like a child playing with all their favorite toys at once while making up storylines that are also mishmashes of their favorite movies and TV. It's what I loved to do.
"Mimics all over the shop...you'll be one of them, sooner or later." I've thought that the Larval Tears look a bit like the Elden Beast too, maybe that's intended?
Your pacing, narration and genuineness in delivery are such welcomed qualities. Great writing as always and your presentation stands out in such a fantastic way.
This is exactly what I like about Jack's stuff. I don't agree with plenty of his conclusions, but his videos always make me excited to watch them when they appear. Even when he did that hours long History of Caria video, it kept me engaged with just how well structured and paced it was. You're no slouch, either :p
Okay but this actually has my head spinning thinking about Centered Tarnished's take on the Weeping Peninsula and the psychological meta-theme and symbolism of the whole game. I didn't need to sleep tonight, it's cool. Oh my goodness, and in that Evergaol, you fight a... Zamor Warrior 🤯. Yeah I'm sold.
Okay one more... The island off the coast of this inverted Weeping Peninsula is where the Cathedral of Dragon Communion is. And there's your mini-Farum Azula.
And it all comes back to the humble kidney bean. Beans from a pod, a magic pod of magic beans, planted by a hero long ago, stalks rising up into new worlds of giants as the land flooded...
I like that you only use in-game parallels and thematic connections to piece all this together. It meshes with my theory that all the mysteries of this game are IN the game itself and the devs gave us the specific task of uncovering this mystery by ourselves. Can't wait for your next video!
hmm the lands between look like a fetus, the lands of shadow looks like a hand reaching for you, miquella's haligtree look like a spider web.... there is a pattern...
I was not prepared. I love it. The lands betweens is a factale, it was their in plain sight. We were stuck on "lol the lands betweens looks like a finger"
YES PLEASE. Me and my friends have been talking for months of how the Lands Between seem to be fractal and recursive and I can't wait for you to put everything in order for us and save us from perpetual confusion 😂
Can't believe I can still be surprised by stuff that was right under my nose. The Peninsula always been a mysterious place especially why would the grace of gold guide us there. There must be some some important lesson Marika wants us to learn in our journey to lordship. How it mimic the Lands Between is an awesome discovery. Can't wait to see where you go from here
There's a bunch of Sacred Tears there for bolstering our flask. The Guidance of Grace actually points towards Castle Morne, though. Could just be a gameplay thing, where the Guidance directs you to major points of interest. The Grafted Blade Greatsword is also considered a legendary weapon, though I don't think that alone would be sufficient reason to guide you there. I'm still not 100% clear on whether the Guidance of Grace (or Grace in general) is something that comes from Marika, the Erdtree, or the Greater Will.
@@Greywander87 In previous videos, Jack made a pretty good point that the grace of gold is Marika guiding us to slay the demi gods and follow Ranni quest line. I agree that it's more of a narrative guidance than a gameplay one. So there must be a big reason plot vise that we go there. My intuition makes me think it maybe related to the Irina/Hyetta, the Flame of frenzy and it's body snatching capabilities. But that feels like a pretty risky plan that could backfire if we follow the Frenzy ending. That's why I always looked for a better explanation. And if someone could clear that up for me it's probably @JackisaMimic ;)
Much of the story is also about repetition, or mimicking as you call it. The Nox challenging the stars, and subsequently Radahn doing the same. The Serpent returning. The rot-flower blooming "once more". Sellen's pursuit of understanding in the stars mimics Azur and Lusat before her, and the unnamed sorcerer in the mountaintops before them. Elden Ring states it so clearly; those who do not learn from history, are destined to repeat it. When history is rewritten to suit the victors, there is no learning from it.
BRUH forget about spirals everyone - the main theme of Elden Ring is now fractals. Erdtree? fractal tree. map? had been self-similar the whole time! who's crying? me, I'm stuck in the bushes in the Abyssal Woods and can't move because them untouchables are spooky as hell 😿
In case you somehow didn't know, they can be parried, which makes them "touchable". Only one parry is required, after that you can just hit them normally. IIRC there's a note in Midra's Manse that alludes to this tactic. So slap Carian Retaliation on a shield and get to it!
@@Greywander87 can u parry with a Carian Regal Scepter (hamster meme music playing in the background) 😔? I’m so used to my cowardly tactics this area is a nightmare… but thanks for the advice!!
@@annekkipu You can't infuse ashes of war on the Carian Regal Sceptor, and in any case staves can't take parry ashes. Just grab any random small or medium shield you meet the stat requirements for and put Carian Retaliation on it. It's widely considered the best parry ash as it has the longest number of active parry frames. Basically that just means you don't have to be as precise with the timing. It will still take some practice before you'll be able to get it right, but the Aging Untouchables don't respawn once killed. Maybe practice a bit on the soldiers in Limgrave. If you don't have Carian Retaliation, you can buy it from Pidia at the Carian Manor. You have to access him from up above, near Ranni's tower. Or you could just use another parry ash if you don't mind the higher difficulty.
"You can find the GEQ hidden amongst demi humans." My guy WHAT are you TALKING about? The shield of the guilty has more to do with those thorn sorcerers found with the fire monks than any hint to what little we know about the GEQ
The identity of the GEQ is so easy, will be included in the next episode Here’s the important words from the Shield of the Guilty. “Shield made to venerate a **maiden** whose eyes were crushed by Briars of Sin before being **reborn** in these lands. Venerating the **repose of the soul**, this shield boosts focus. The briars can be used to attack foes.” For the Demihuman Queens, well one is not like the other. See if you can find what it is
We're crying. We cried first when Morgott kicked our asses, then Godfrey, then the Godskin Duo, then Rikard, then Maliketh then Malenia, and now we cry cause Radahn is kicking our asses. Oh yeah, for the second time, and this time much harder. And we have no backup this time. SO YEAH, I'M CRYING
What if the Nox were banished underground because they know about the suppressing tower, and the real land from where the two fingers relay their messages👀
So basically, look at the entire mechanics of the game. It has the exploration of ds2, the combat pace of bloodborne, the bosses of ds3 with a mix of sekiro and it mimics sekiro because your character can freely jump and SNEAK just like sekiro and it mimics the mechanics of weapon arts of ds3. Coincidence? I think not.
I don't know how you stumbled across the mimicry trend (probably because the game is chalk full of things mimicking things) but this is video is pretty amazing.
This manifestation of madness comes from a mind teetering on the very brink, but has a sane mind ever produced anything of true significance? Truth oft resembles madness, inaccessible to the dull of mind. Those who go mad are merely thoughtful souls who failed to reach any conclusions.
CT... This has me thinking about your analysis. I'll just drop this here. What if it's an actual mother's "middle world" created out of the trauma of losing a child/pregnancy? Heck, what if the mother isn't Marika, but an ultimate portrayal of the child?
@@TSpoon823 this was actually my very first analysis of the base game- that Marika’s child died and the game is a reflection of that inner turmoil. Part of me thinks that Messmer is actually the dead child and we fight….. well a memory (remembrance) of him. If Messmer was around and doing things before his banishment to the Shadow Lands, he would not be represented as an infant. Yet, in the Marika statue behind him and the abductor virgins- it is an infant and most certainly meant to be Messmer. So many artistic and item descriptions are about infanticide. I would assume that we are meant to apply that to the main character of the game.
Jack, I saw a video explaining Elden Ring with Necropolitics. Thinking it may be a serious revelation. Had the idea after the first month of play but could never voice my opinion properly. Necropolitics. Look into it please.
HE BE SPIRALLING. I can't wait for your final season.
hey man it's super cool to see other lore youtubers here commenting and charing their thoughts and feelings, also your videos are truly some of the best
Jack hasn’t slept in weeks
Pepe Silvia Meme
Spiral? Like how a new born gets bigger by eating and sleeping and eating and sleeping.
Until it makes a mimic of itself in the form of another new born. And childbirth is painful.
Growing up is painful.
Dying is painful.
Who's crying?
All of us!
Jack's finally snapped.
this feels like a video essay for the phrase: ''Imitation is the greatest form of flattery.'' but if you just decided to cut it down to ''imitation is the greatest form.''. And I'm here for it. Good job.
This is the first video I've seen from you, what the fuck did I just watch.
This short 4-minute video is more exciting and interesting than many hour-long essays. Well done!
Is it?
@@Zythryl Yes. I’ve seen many hour(s)-long essays on this platform that left me feeling like I could have watched a 15-minute summary instead and gotten the same experience.
God those longwinded vids are so full of it
People can make their jokes about you finally snapping but the Lands Between resembling a fetus is 100% correct and I believe intentional.
It's all a show, we're just having fun here. Happy you can see the symbolism!
The Scadutree looks like an umbilical chord.
There was a reddit thread about it the other day.
The map also looks exactly like the Godfrey Icon talisman. Exactly like it.
and it also looks like a giant furled finger
This was like an everything everywhere all at once moment lol I love it! It’s still so shocking to me to hear my voice in the end track! Can’t wait to see what you do next!
It's charming in a way, like a child playing with all their favorite toys at once while making up storylines that are also mishmashes of their favorite movies and TV. It's what I loved to do.
Elden Ring is the refined form of a brilliant child's sandbox castle and I'm here for it
That’s how I describe all souls games in fromsoft, I’ve used that exact analogy when talking to friends about Miyazaki making games
"Mimics all over the shop...you'll be one of them, sooner or later."
I've thought that the Larval Tears look a bit like the Elden Beast too, maybe that's intended?
I think the larval tears are meant to look like a fetus, makes sense in context
@@FarawayFragrance Yes, I definitely agree with that..
Well. That was… something. Glad to see Jack entering his Being John Malkovich phase.
Your pacing, narration and genuineness in delivery are such welcomed qualities. Great writing as always and your presentation stands out in such a fantastic way.
hey your channel is amazing and it's good to see everyone working together in the lore community!
@@flototsawww thank you angel!! 😇❤️
This is exactly what I like about Jack's stuff. I don't agree with plenty of his conclusions, but his videos always make me excited to watch them when they appear. Even when he did that hours long History of Caria video, it kept me engaged with just how well structured and paced it was.
You're no slouch, either :p
Holy shit! I had never realized that about the Weeping Peninsula before!
You're always sparking my imagination dude!
Okay but this actually has my head spinning thinking about Centered Tarnished's take on the Weeping Peninsula and the psychological meta-theme and symbolism of the whole game. I didn't need to sleep tonight, it's cool.
Oh my goodness, and in that Evergaol, you fight a... Zamor Warrior 🤯. Yeah I'm sold.
Okay one more... The island off the coast of this inverted Weeping Peninsula is where the Cathedral of Dragon Communion is. And there's your mini-Farum Azula.
This has sparked my interest more than anything I’ve seen on the subject
that weeping peninsula flip turning out a fractal of the real deal is mind blowing.
And it all comes back to the humble kidney bean. Beans from a pod, a magic pod of magic beans, planted by a hero long ago, stalks rising up into new worlds of giants as the land flooded...
3:46 players, fighting consort of miquela
The Greater Will is crying... or rather, it was, when it was dying. Now it's dead, and we're only seeing its tears now, crystallized: glintstone.
Bro went from "oooh, good channel to sleep to" to being the first thing I look up when I wake up.
As an overthinker that comes up with crazy theories that are cool, yet unlikely to be true, I deeply respect this video.
Apparently watching this video on magic mushrooms makes you roll into an eternal kaleidoscopic loop of fractals from which you can never escape.
The Weeping Peninsula being a smaller mirror of the Lands Between is WILD. Excited for the final season!
The correct quote is: "good artists steal, great artists steal and improve."
I've never heard that one. The one I've heard countless times, attributed to Picasso, is "Good artists copy. Great artists steal."
u made that up, but it's true
I like that you only use in-game parallels and thematic connections to piece all this together. It meshes with my theory that all the mysteries of this game are IN the game itself and the devs gave us the specific task of uncovering this mystery by ourselves. Can't wait for your next video!
I believe that all of FromSoftware's titles are like that.
Who's crying? Me. "time is a spiral, not a circle". My favorite berserk quote.
I always thought there was something to do with the map as a whole, but could never put my finger on it.
Metyr is the one who cried mimicking Ebrietas, the other weeping cosmic mother... or perhaps it was Marika, who mourned for their people.
It's the player who's been crying all along
hmm the lands between look like a fetus, the lands of shadow looks like a hand reaching for you, miquella's haligtree look like a spider web.... there is a pattern...
_Visions of tears...could this be a mimicry?_ Looking forward to the finale!
3:27 I want to get off Mr. Miyazaki's Wild Ride.
I was not prepared. I love it. The lands betweens is a factale, it was their in plain sight. We were stuck on "lol the lands betweens looks like a finger"
bro this video literally blew my mind
YES PLEASE. Me and my friends have been talking for months of how the Lands Between seem to be fractal and recursive and I can't wait for you to put everything in order for us and save us from perpetual confusion 😂
Can't believe I can still be surprised by stuff that was right under my nose. The Peninsula always been a mysterious place especially why would the grace of gold guide us there. There must be some some important lesson Marika wants us to learn in our journey to lordship. How it mimic the Lands Between is an awesome discovery. Can't wait to see where you go from here
There's a bunch of Sacred Tears there for bolstering our flask. The Guidance of Grace actually points towards Castle Morne, though. Could just be a gameplay thing, where the Guidance directs you to major points of interest. The Grafted Blade Greatsword is also considered a legendary weapon, though I don't think that alone would be sufficient reason to guide you there. I'm still not 100% clear on whether the Guidance of Grace (or Grace in general) is something that comes from Marika, the Erdtree, or the Greater Will.
@@Greywander87 In previous videos, Jack made a pretty good point that the grace of gold is Marika guiding us to slay the demi gods and follow Ranni quest line. I agree that it's more of a narrative guidance than a gameplay one. So there must be a big reason plot vise that we go there. My intuition makes me think it maybe related to the Irina/Hyetta, the Flame of frenzy and it's body snatching capabilities. But that feels like a pretty risky plan that could backfire if we follow the Frenzy ending. That's why I always looked for a better explanation. And if someone could clear that up for me it's probably @JackisaMimic ;)
Ive seen a video where it was explaining that Marika lost a child and the characters of Elden Ring represent the shattering of her psyche.
Nah man. I am all down for a self-aware Mimic going insane😭 (in the narrative of course)
you could say the weeping peninsula is a Microcosm
Ah, Micro Kos, or some say Micro Kosm.
The Scadu Tree is an Umbilical cord.
Never let him cook again
Macrocosms, Microcosms, and Mimics should be the name of this series
Much of the story is also about repetition, or mimicking as you call it. The Nox challenging the stars, and subsequently Radahn doing the same. The Serpent returning. The rot-flower blooming "once more". Sellen's pursuit of understanding in the stars mimics Azur and Lusat before her, and the unnamed sorcerer in the mountaintops before them.
Elden Ring states it so clearly; those who do not learn from history, are destined to repeat it. When history is rewritten to suit the victors, there is no learning from it.
The formless mother is gonna be pissed
Bahaha, that was great. But yeah, who is weeping? The willow?
BRUH forget about spirals everyone - the main theme of Elden Ring is now fractals. Erdtree? fractal tree. map? had been self-similar the whole time! who's crying? me, I'm stuck in the bushes in the Abyssal Woods and can't move because them untouchables are spooky as hell 😿
In case you somehow didn't know, they can be parried, which makes them "touchable". Only one parry is required, after that you can just hit them normally. IIRC there's a note in Midra's Manse that alludes to this tactic. So slap Carian Retaliation on a shield and get to it!
@@Greywander87 can u parry with a Carian Regal Scepter (hamster meme music playing in the background) 😔?
I’m so used to my cowardly tactics this area is a nightmare… but thanks for the advice!!
@@annekkipu You can't infuse ashes of war on the Carian Regal Sceptor, and in any case staves can't take parry ashes. Just grab any random small or medium shield you meet the stat requirements for and put Carian Retaliation on it. It's widely considered the best parry ash as it has the longest number of active parry frames. Basically that just means you don't have to be as precise with the timing. It will still take some practice before you'll be able to get it right, but the Aging Untouchables don't respawn once killed. Maybe practice a bit on the soldiers in Limgrave.
If you don't have Carian Retaliation, you can buy it from Pidia at the Carian Manor. You have to access him from up above, near Ranni's tower. Or you could just use another parry ash if you don't mind the higher difficulty.
A 4 minute video that will give us food for thought for hours. This is fucking brilliant.
The human animal is so talented at seeing patterns, that they will find patterns, even where they don’t exist
Quality video
Mind blown 🤯
I should probably get some sleep lol
That maiden of astraea theme always hits hard 1:55
had me reeling in my chair fr
OMG NOW I CAN NOT UNSEE THE BABY!!!!!!!!!!
Weeping peninsula is Australia
He is the one chosen that will go beyond the pattern seeking skill cap🥺
Bro what, the Weeping Pensinsula bit shocked me
Whats that song at the end?!?!
Elden John has been really silent since this banger dropped.
Oh wow. You blew my mind with the mimic map!
Ra, Rauh, is crying, in Egyptian mythology tears of the gods formed honeybees and humans. I actually think this is incredible.
"You can find the GEQ hidden amongst demi humans."
My guy WHAT are you TALKING about? The shield of the guilty has more to do with those thorn sorcerers found with the fire monks than any hint to what little we know about the GEQ
The identity of the GEQ is so easy, will be included in the next episode
Here’s the important words from the Shield of the Guilty.
“Shield made to venerate a **maiden** whose eyes were crushed by Briars of Sin before being **reborn** in these lands.
Venerating the **repose of the soul**, this shield boosts focus. The briars can be used to attack foes.”
For the Demihuman Queens, well one is not like the other. See if you can find what it is
We're crying. We cried first when Morgott kicked our asses, then Godfrey, then the Godskin Duo, then Rikard, then Maliketh then Malenia, and now we cry cause Radahn is kicking our asses. Oh yeah, for the second time, and this time much harder. And we have no backup this time. SO YEAH, I'M CRYING
I always thought the lands between map looked like a furled finger, but that's pretty good
MAY CHAOS TAKE THE WORLD! MAY CHAOS TAKE THE WORLD!
Jack the Cracked Pot
Im still trying to figure out the fire link shrine thing personally
My boy done lost his damn mind and I'm all here for it 😂😂
Bravo! Short, sweet, insane; this has everything I love from a good lore video in a tight package. (:
Just getting started!
*Triumphant Delight Emote*
Yoo that Melina in "UZUMAKI" style 💀
i thought it looked like a giant furled finger
Its me, I'm crying , like how am I supposed to beat Promised Consort Radahn??
What if the Nox were banished underground because they know about the suppressing tower, and the real land from where the two fingers relay their messages👀
What do we mean by "Final Season"? Don't tell me your leaving us so soon?!
Elden Ring was most on the nose in the series, more than DS2.
So basically, look at the entire mechanics of the game. It has the exploration of ds2, the combat pace of bloodborne, the bosses of ds3 with a mix of sekiro and it mimics sekiro because your character can freely jump and SNEAK just like sekiro and it mimics the mechanics of weapon arts of ds3.
Coincidence? I think not.
Truly, a Patchwork of Champions.
It’s the tears of gamers who can’t beat a boss.
The best loretuber of ALLL TIME . Dude you are and HAVE BEEN RIGHT
i see fractals in world gov.. now it is here..
I don't know how you stumbled across the mimicry trend (probably because the game is chalk full of things mimicking things) but this is video is pretty amazing.
Alright, VIDEO PHILOSOPHY COMPREHENSION CHALLENGE!!!(explosion effect)
What the hell is this guy talking about?
Who is crying? Fallen leaves tell a story. And they are falling like tears. Or like Erdtree's seeds, which long time ago were considered not possible.
everyone is, the runes are eyes
This is insane, I'm so hooked rn
Miyazaki is crying. mystery solved here first!!!!
This video grew eyes on my brain
Bro are you f****** kidding me right now 💀💀💀
Stunned
Incredible video... ngl, very anxious for your next one ❤ thx for this man, have a great week o/
This manifestation of madness comes from a mind
teetering on the very brink, but has a sane mind ever
produced anything of true significance?
Truth oft resembles madness, inaccessible to the
dull of mind. Those who go mad are merely thoughtful
souls who failed to reach any conclusions.
Chef’s kiss👏👏
CT... This has me thinking about your analysis. I'll just drop this here.
What if it's an actual mother's "middle world" created out of the trauma of losing a child/pregnancy? Heck, what if the mother isn't Marika, but an ultimate portrayal of the child?
@@TSpoon823 this was actually my very first analysis of the base game- that Marika’s child died and the game is a reflection of that inner turmoil.
Part of me thinks that Messmer is actually the dead child and we fight….. well a memory (remembrance) of him. If Messmer was around and doing things before his banishment to the Shadow Lands, he would not be represented as an infant. Yet, in the Marika statue behind him and the abductor virgins- it is an infant and most certainly meant to be Messmer. So many artistic and item descriptions are about infanticide. I would assume that we are meant to apply that to the main character of the game.
Would be funny if people started mimicking each other in the ocmments
Would be funny if people started mimicking each other in the ocmments
Would be funny if people started mimicking each other in the ocmments
Would be funny if people started mimicking each other in the ocmments
everyone is saying different things, that is, we are doing the same thing saying different things, we are already mimicking
Would be funny if people started mimicking each other in the ocmments
we entering schizo era 💯
@@EmperorMist that’s where you live with your bottomless bag of crisps💜💜💜
Waiter!! Waiter!! I'll take whatever shrooms that gentleman is having
I thought the map was a mimic of a furled finger
This one made me chuckle. I loved it.
I've always seen the lands between map as being a furled finger
Furled Finger, Godfrey Icon, a fetus, a dragon, or a larval tear - mimics can look like anything
Jack, I saw a video explaining Elden Ring with Necropolitics. Thinking it may be a serious revelation.
Had the idea after the first month of play but could never voice my opinion properly.
Necropolitics. Look into it please.
Who's crying? Caitha...
I think the lands between is supposed to look like a finger.
What song was played at the end there???
So, what if everything in elden ring is just a Mimic? That replaced the real thing eons ago