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AMD Unveils Ryzen 9000 - Specs, X870 Chipset, Launch Date & More!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ส.ค. 2024
- AMD announces Ryzen 9000 CPUs at Computex 2024. Ryzen 5 9600X, Ryzen 7 9700X, Ryzen 9 9900X, Ryzen 9 9950X & X870 and X870E Motherboards.🔻Click "More" For Links🔻
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📰 Techspot 13600K Review bit.ly/3WBnNHW
AMD announced Zen 5 based Ryzen 9000 CPUs at Computex 2024. AMD unveiled the Ryzen 5 9600X, Ryzen 7 9700X, Ryzen 9 9900X, and Ryzen 9 9950X along with new AM5 X870 & X870E Motherboards. AMD also introduced the Ryzen 5900 XT and Ryzen 5800 XT along with extending their commitment to AM5 "through 2027+" We review specs, performance claims, launch date and potential pricing for the Ryzen 5 9600X, Ryzen 7 9700X, Ryzen 9 9900X, and Ryzen 9 9950X for AM5, and the Ryzen 5800 XT and 5900 XT for AM4.
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0:00 Ryzen 9000 Announcement
0:25 Ryzen 9600X, 9700X, 9900X, 9950X
0:57 Huge Ryzen 9000 Efficiency Gains?
1:58 Ryzen 9800X3D Missing
2:27 IPC Increase over Ryzen 7000
2:58 Ryzen 9 9950X vs i9 14900K
3:27 Gaming & Production Performance Claims
3:42 AMD Extends AM5 Support
4:16 AM4 Ending in 2025?
4:38 X870E & X870 Motherboards
5:14 B850, B650, X670 Compatabilty
5:53 Ryzen 9000 DDR5 Speed Recommendations
6:26 Ryzen 9000 Launch Date & Pricing
7:00 Ryzen 9000 Market Pricing?
7:41 "NEW" AM4 CPUs
8:05 WTF AMD?
8:53 AMD's Explanation
9:18 Extended AM5 Commitment
10:02 Ryzen 9800X3D When??
10:48 Buy Now or Wait for Ryzen 9000?
11:45 HUGE CPU Price Cuts Right Now
12:19 Best 1440p Gaming Monitor 2024
*Note: When showing previous data for the 5950X, the arrow is mistakenly pointing to the 5900X. The % difference stated is correct.*
What do you think of Ryzen 9000? Are you looking to upgrade? Tell your story in a new comment below!
If AMD wants marketshare and allow gamers to really grab their product, they need to lower the price on their launch. If they do, this could make a real dent in the intel market. Also, if they do, they force Intel to do the same and from what the rumours say, the next intel gen might be worse than 14th gen for gaming.
Hopefully they listen to the gamers of the world!
Most informative pc videos as always, thanks for all the great info!!
IT OVER 9000🗣🗣
ITS OVER 9000!! (;
But only 50 TOPS 😂😂😂😂
At least use a different comment on each subscriber page.. lazy
Is that a dbz reference nice
Is that a dbz reference nice
As a broke person who just entered AM4 last year, It’s heart warming to know that I don’t have to worry about upgrading because of platform death.. I can see an upgrade path spanning over years.. I appreciate that
You don't really have to upgrade for years to come when you get on to the higher end cpu on a matured platform. By the time you think of upgrade you should switch to next platform, by then it will be matured and lower price and more performance gain and power efficient.
@@seiyachan lol my brother I am BROKE. When I was buying my cpu I was looking for the literal cheapest AM4 CPU that was available. There is no getting on higher end CPUs until years later like 13years later when 78003xd will be $80 . That’s when I will afford it and even then it’ll still be expensive
@@jordanmntungwa3311 shouldve just went with an 8 or 9th gen intel CPU at that point, used they cost a lot less now.
@@jordanmntungwa3311You could probably get a 5800x3d and be set for a good while.
@@jordanmntungwa3311dude if you're struggling with money as much as you say you are, maybe sort that out before buying a PC?
Sure, not my place to tell you what to do with your money, but seriously, make sure your life is on track before spending on something like building a computer.
2027+ on AM5 makes it more enticing to swap from Intel to AMD for my CPU
Definitely, AM4 has been legendary and AM5 will most likely reach the same status.
damn, Jason pulled a fast one!
pretty excited to experienced my first computex ever since i joined the pc building world back in november last year
Some exciting stuff happening!
After Intel lied about 11gen cpu's I don't want anything from them anymore. With next build I am changing to AMD. 😊
welcome to the red side Inferno, we are happy to have you.
@@Dwayneff Thx ;)
I did that but trust me there is almost no difference...I had 13700k & RX 6950XT and had in warthunder avg 180fps 2K ultra HQ settings...
Now I have R7 7800x3d & RX 7900XT and my average is still around 180-185fps on 2K Ultra HQ settings...so just wait for intel 15gen or Ryzen 9000series...if you want real difference in performance...
@@gorangrbusic1278 With my 11gen I have to limit to 60fps on 2k all the time. Getting so hot I can't play like a normal person. My plan for now is to change the case and cooling system. No money for anything more then that at the moment.
I went from 11700kf to a Ryzen 7800x3d (2k resolution 1440p) I went from 275fps to 700 on valorant max settings. I’d say it’s best to go amd indefinitely also the dude push 180fps ur settings r fkd up I bet u didn’t prioritize ur game in task manage as high n go to performance on ur pc search bar and set the game to the name of ur gpu. Then turn on xmp or expo. Then turn off ur back ground tasks like having launchers in ur task manager open. I have the same cpu as u and destroy every game I play in raw performance. Ur definitely doing something wrong it’s user error not a cpu thing.
I definitely want to see the benchmarks from reviewers! Thumbs up.
Yes! Looking forward to building with them and checking it all out too
You're the first channel I've ever become a member of. Built my PC back in '19, but always entertained by the future! Keep it up, Jason!
Thanks so much tofu! We appreciate the support--welcome! Glad you're enjoying the channel :)
This is a much better video than Jay2cents. More info and more facts.
Really glad its helpful!
Ive been waiting for the 5700x to drop to $100. Will wait another year if i have to.
I'm committed to my diet until 2027+ too... let's see how that goes too 😂😂😂😂
haha!!!
Honestly, that's 2 years of commitment. In that time frame you can develop a decent physique.
lul
ramen for 3 more years
I was so pumped when I built my machine last year with a 13900k and it seemed great at first, but after wasting extra money upgrading the air cooler, then another upgrade to an AIO, that's one thing and maybe my fault for not understanding "how hot" they really do run. But it's salt in the wound that these BIOS updates now nerfed it down to 13600k performance... All I can say is Ryzen has my name all over it when it's time to upgrade
16% faster is a solid generational uplift but we all know they'll launch at well over 16% more money
I'll be good with my 7800x3d for a few years lol
Absolutely
Yeah hard to beat the efficiency of the 7800X3D
Just got a 7800x3d I need a motherboard suggestion
@44deuce Any b650 board will work tbh. I got a micro center bundle with my 7800x3d for 500 bucks and it came with the cpu 32 gb of 6000 mhz ram and the msi b650 plus wifi motherboard. I dont use alot of ports except usb really so it works for me
@44deuce just do research and find the b650 board with enough usb connections for you. you don't need pcie gen 5 at all. Get something with good power delivery, a decent amount of USB ports, something that has at least one USB-C port, and you're golden
Exellent contents! It's financial year end sale now in Australia but I'll wait for the next gen for lower TDP.
July will come fast!
@@PCBuilderChannel Agreed... It's not a bad idea to get a B650 mobo (w flash buttom & 8+ phases) now if it is sale... X870 will be expensive during first launch.
I'm updating my computer in 2025. I might need to carefully check this chipset
Yes!
I think I’ll stick with my 7950x3d for awhile
Yes I would think so (;
If you are already on 7xxx CPU, simply skip 9xxx series. 9xxx only makes sense if you are about to build a new PC.
Next logical upgrade is when AMD releases next gen in 2025/26 with 16 core per CCD.
looking forward to seeing the new best cpu for gaming video especially the 1440p one
Yes! Looking forward to getting all the testing
Thinking of jumping from the 7600x to the 9700x. I know the 7800x3d is a beast. I've been holding off. But I'm finally going to make a purchase. The lower TDP on the 9700x is a huge selling point. I wonder how the 9700x holds up vs the 7800x3d.
I would stick with the 7600X. Maybe grab the 7800X. No point in getting X3D if you don’t have a 4090.
@@Typhon888 I do own a 4090. I'm running an unbalanced build with a 7600x/4090. The plan was to upgrade to a 7800X3D, but I never did.
I might get a 9700x depending on pricing. The 65w TDP is intriguing if it can trade blows with the 7800X3D. I do see your point regardless. I'm capped at 120hz with my OLED. It's a fairly new 2022 TV/monitor, and I don't feel like spending $1300 for 32" 4k OLED when my current display works fine. The 32" would also be a downgrade from my current 42". I'm looking for a core boost mostly.. If I'm being honest the 7600x fits my particular build just fine until I get a new tv/monitor.
I'd wait for the 9800X3D honestly... if the 9700X trades blow, the X3D version will beat it at everything (except price but you got 4090 money 😂)
Let's goooo! 2027+ support is great news.
Hopefully the 3rd party testing data proves some nice fruitfull results!!
Great video and editing as always!!
Thank you!!
As a 5800X owner who used to have an RX6600, I am bemused that they used that card as a benchmark. Um. Okay. It's a fine card. $100 or less for a used one. Great value. But the 5800X much less this new variant is going to be napping waiting for that card. I replaced my with a 6700XT which seems to be an extremely balanced card for the 5800X. Don't think I have ever had a CPU-GPU so evenly and perfectly matched. The updated 5800XT or whatever it's called is probably an even better match. Yippee. I kid. Not really seeing much to celebrate for AM4. There are already a plethora of great AM4 choices, and let's be honest, a lot of interest is only on the X3D variants. Seriously doubt anyone will see a 5800XT over the 5800X and go "wow, now THAT'S what I want today!" And I say that as someone who did purposely choose the X part instead of the X3D everybody else wanted. Still very happy for AMD. They are still killing it. As an AMD fan for ages, and suffering with awful stuff, it makes me very happy to see them finally the top dog and they earned it. Intel has a lot of 'splainin to do. Tell us again about E cores and P cores? I need a good bedtime story to fall asleep.
I'm still ok with my 7 7800X3D
Absolutely
Definitely stick with that. Wait for zen 6
@@sengan2475 if they can, they should just wait for zen 7 3D since there is a high chance that it will be am5 compatible.
Lol I mean. What more could you want right now
What about 5800x3d?
I think this 9000 gen is for people who wants an absolutely new build. For folks like me who has 7000 it doesn't make a lot of sense
Hope 9000 will be really great and 10000 or 11000 will be only better and then we will upgrade our stuff
It seems like 100% of the performance improvements are from uarch/IPC. That's very interesting, I expected at least a slight improvement to clock speed.
Personally I am waiting on 9950X3D or Intel equivalent (yes you read that right, I want cores and cache!)
Will be interesting to see the testing for sure!
Honestly i was expecting secretly that AMD will announce 5600x3D for worldwide but still damn 2025 for AM4 platform GOAT platform so i'll be waiting if AMD will drop new AM4 cpus competing with allready existing 5700x3D/5800x3D
Updated to AM5 in May, was happy with the 7800X3D price, along with the motherboard. I can imagine the pricing will be higher on the new stuff, plus everything that comes good/bad with new tech.
Going to microcenter to pick up one of those 7800x3d bundles this week, thank you for the reporting on the next gen drop because I was worried I shouldn’t!
Glad that was helpful, good luck with your purchases and building! :)
My jump will be so big, from i5-7400 to a ryzen 9 9900x. I'm so excited for the release of 9000 series!
That should be a really good upgrade for you.
It's Jason's PCB AweZen 9000X !! ❤
Thank you for the super thanks!!! :)
@PCBuilderChannel Thank you for your positivity and dedication to PC world and your audience! 🐈🙏✨️
No price, no core count increase, no clock increase? But tons of AI shit
I will wait for the X3D announcements.
Which probably will drop after arrow lake so they can top them again.
So basically 13th to 14th gen intel all over again, but this time its ryzen. Weve come full circle now
DOn't compare AMD to Intel.
@@itsatrap4986 OP is not wrong in this call. There is hardly any improvement from Zen 4 to Zen 5 here and Arrow Lake is going to benefit from going down two full nodes, among other changes. AMD needed to do better here and X3D will not boost performance much over base chips as they have to cut clocks for X3D technology. I think they whiffed it here.
I will definitely be buying the next x3d chip but dont know which one yet/ an x870e motherboard/ maybe faster ram/ white rtx 5090 after they release and are tested by 3rd parties so I can see the performance gains.
I am ABSOLUTELY buying an AMD Mobo/CPU, and good chance an AMD GPU by the time i get a new PC in 3-5 years
Yeah zen 6 is rumoured to at last transition to the 1-2 nanometers architectures by then. I bet Intel will not even do it then. So 3 years is a good timeline.
@@notaras1985 what's beyond 1nm lol. .5 and .25nm?
@@zombl337og no, that would probably create weird quantum phenomena and jumping electrons. Then you just start stacking them in a complex 3D structure and using photonic buses or move to quantum bits, if you wish for higher speeds
I have absolutely loved the am4 platform. I'm probably going to be bumping into am5 by the end of 2025 and look forward to using it as long as I did my am4.
Here i am with my 2600x, 2060 super still doing a great job.
Worth waiting to jump to am5 with these processors releasing in July? Or jump on the 7800x3d deal from microcenter before it seemingly goes away?
Honestly its a pretty great deal and if you are anxious to get building go for it, that CPU can power any GPU on the market. But if you really don't mind waiting till July that's solid too
Thank you, Jason.
You're so welcome! Glad you enjoyed this one :)
I was an AMD user since the Athlon days but they fell so far behind that I had to switch to Intel. It's been gratifying to see AMD pick up wins these last few years. And my Ryzen 7 3700X is still going strong with the help of the 7800XT. Thanks for the recommendation on that card!
Glad to help!!
I have a 12900k and a 4070 ti super do you think I can get more performance out of my GPU if I upgrade to rise in 9000 series?
Pretty sure no. Maybe very little, but u nee to change graphics card to get more gpu perf.
Definitely, the 7800x3D would probably give you better performance compared to your current set up, at least for gaming. So next gen would probably be even better.
They jumped over 700 motherboards for quite petty reasons. Because they didn't wanna look like they are "falling" behind INTEL. Cause Intel will be on 800 so the AMD needs to be.
Thanks Jason love the update! Always helpful and appreciate your thoughts on what to do.
I'll be sticking with my 5700X3D this round. Even with a 7900XT im gpu bound at UW QHD. not expecting a jump to 9000 will be worth it
Definitely depends on the game. Plenty of games would see a very significant jump going to a zen 5 x3d chip, whenever those come out
A very good 7500f/7600x/5700x3d comparison with a 7900 XTX. /watch?v=aGnri9yB5iQ&t=6s The 5700X3D is slightly faster than the 7600X stock for stock. If you're building new, the 7500f is the real winner.
Very cool that Amd is extending the am5 platform. Pair this with their more reasonable priced gpus, it will be very hard to beat amd systems
Great video, but at 8:48 you talk ab the 5950x, while pointing to the 5900x. Obviously a nitpick, but wanted to share constructive criticism
Yes sorry about that, I put the correction in the pinned comment already
@@PCBuilderChannel all good, love the channel keep up the good work 👍
Let’s go Jason!!! #CatDads!! What did Mr Beast think of the AMD presentation?!?!
#catdads! The cat approved (;
I was kind of hoping that AM5 would have a long life when i did a new build with it 1,5 years ago. Now i'm happy 😊😊😊😊
Thank you for your videos. They are very entertaining and i like them very much.
Greetings all the way from Germany.
Hello Germany!
Just scooped up microcenter $525 bundle with 5800x3d and 7600.
The had a 7800x3d with ram/mobo for $480 as well.
Couldn't help it, prices were so low.
i was thinking about going to AM5 with a 7600X but i was afraid, but since is going to be 2027+ i just decided myself
I'm happy to see the 65W TDP for the R5 and R7. I was hoping that AMD would give us a box cooler with them as well, but it seems unlikely :c
We will get non X versions of both with coolers I suspect atound the holiday season. I'm okay with X variants coming without them but I also don't think there should be a 6c12t X sku but Lisa didn't ask me this time. 😂
I just built a new system with a R5 7600X and an RX 7900GRE. I spent about $1500. I feel like I got good value for the performance. So far I have no complaints and I'm not regretting not waiting.
That's a very powerful PC and anything above is a waste of money IMO. You can build around a GRE and 7500f with 2TB SSD and 750w A tier PSU for under $1,200. On the CPU, the 6 core(7500f is $130 dirt cheap) or 7800X3D are the only 2 chips gamers should be looking at.
Congrats on the new build! And thanks for watching!
I was thinking of getting a 7800x3d this month (didn't know these would be revealed) to upgrade my current setup. Should I still get it or get one of these? Or even wait till next year for the x3d release?
Get the 7800x3D man. Can’t beat the efficiency of this CPU. And it’s a beast!
Why do you need the 7800X3D? If whatever CPU you have right now is fine, I'd wait for the 9800X3D.
What do you have right now?
def get in now, its decent value, these cpus wont be as good and will be expensive, remember you could die tomorrow
Depend on what you have right now. Because the 9800X3D is coming for next year around march 2025
I was hoping for new AMD GPUs announcement at Computex
Hey - I’m trying to build my first ever PC. My budget for the PC alone is $1,500 (give or take $100). You suggested to wait, but I’m a simple person, and feel like the Ryzen 7800 xd3 would be perfect for my need. Are you suggesting to wait because of the possibility of prices coming down in July for chips like that?
Yes the 7800X3D is a great option if you're using it for Gaming and the 7900GRE GPU would be a great pair with it.
It’s possible prices will go down or that with testing and prices on the new CPUs we’ll find out there’s a better price to performance option. But if you want to go for it that’s fine. It’s a great CPU. See our 7800X3D build guide for more
Nothing too exciting in my opinion, just seems like a kinda small improvement imo.
More interested in what Intel might do since they seem to be struggling more than AMD right now. I'm still sticking to my 13600K either way lol
Looking forward to hearing Intel's response!
I will be upgrading my 7800X3D to the 9950X3D when is launches next year.
Well just bought my i7 14700k xD gonna have to keep it for 2 or 3 more years.
Awesome video Jason, everything I need to know in one video!😊
Why thank you! Happy to hear you found this one useful :)
Went from i7-4790k to i3-12100f to then i5-12700kf then switched to 5 7600x waiting to get the 7800X3D and new gpus to come out so the older ones go down in price
I hope with this generation they will deal with long loading times due to long memory training, because Intel seems to have no problem with this (at least I haven’t heard about it, maybe this is a general problem with DDR5 memory with a high frequency, regardless of the cpu)
I also hope they will slightly improve heat dissipation (especially the reduced area and thicker lid)
and they won't charge for 9600x as for 14900
When will we hear of the new APUs? Id like to know what next gen handhelds will perform like
It's crazy how fast products are launching. Are _you_ looking forward to the 9000 series, Jason?
I am! Excited to see 3rd party testing and prices
I'm looking to build a 7800X3D with a 7900 GRE. Do we expect the wait to be worth it for this release? If yes, hold out on everything or just the CPU?
If you need a PC now, just buy the 7800X3D(or 7500f for $130) when you can actually get it for under $270. The 9700X will beat some and lose some to the 7800X3D in games but will smoke the X3D in productivity. You also won't see a 9800X3D in no less than 6 months.
@@itsatrap4986 Thanks. I am mostly looking to game, but there is a promo on Memory Express(CA) where the combo for 7900X is cheaper than 7800X3D by 40 CAD (28-29 USD). Is it still worth considering the 7900x with this announcement?
@@itsatrap4986 Thanks. There is on Memory Express (CA) where the 7900x is cheaper than the 7800X3D by 40 CAD (28-29 USD). Is that deal worth considering with this announcement? I'm mainly looking to game and I know the 7800X3D is better at that, but 7900x is cheaper in this case?
For gaming, no. I'd avoid the 7900X as it is for productivity. Maybe, perhaps, you can make an exception for the 7900X3D. But overall for gaming, nothing beats the 7800X3D and if you're on a lower budget, the 7500f. These prices I've mentioned here are shipped from China. I got my R5 5600 for $90 shipped and came in 6 days to West Coast, US.@@darkyoshi106
Same bruhh....
I planned my first build with the same specs and was going to buy the parts in 2-3 days and now these new chips are going to be released.... I'm super confused 🥲
I've been wanting to upgrade to the AM5 platform but I'm going to wait until RTX5000 series comes out or I might just keep my 3080
Hey I'm new to the amd product. What is the different between having X3D and not? Is it better in anyway?
Du ma, the X3D cache is useful for gaming. It's about 20% stronger in gaming on average compared to the non-X3D. But if you don't care about max fps then regular 7000/9000 series is fine.
X3d chips are for gamers. They have more cache that equals less latency+great performance while gaming. They are architecturally built differently based on vertical 3d cache stacking technology. X and non X amd cpus are for content creators, average users.
@girishchandra8996 thank you sir! I will wait X3D version
@@trung12808To add one other thing, just because the X3D chips are for gamers doesn't mean they're bad for content creation. Some people get the idea somehow that if it's good at gaming, it has to suck at everything else lol
I'll be really interested in the new MBs! Better specs = higher prices, but as long as they arent $400 they will sell well
I recently found out that the “new” chipset isn’t new at all. It’s the exact same as 670e/650e. Only difference is the required usb4, which was optional for 670/650 boards. Kind of underhanded imho calling it New. P21 is the same chipset on the 670/650 boards
Thanks for the top upload!
The cpus look most interesting.
I can't wait for the X3D version.
Happy you liked this one! Hope you keep on enjoying all the videos. :D
Good reporting. Thanks Jason.
You got it! And thanks for tuning in!
Do you think the decreased TDP on the Ryzen 9600X and 9700x means better thermals?
im sticking to my pc list even if new things come out, stuff already is going donw in price so even if its a generation old it will still play my games without a problem, if am5 is supported till 2027 and more then thats good, i can update later down the line
edit: i plan to build my pc on amazon prime day since that has the best deals so im waiting a month either way
The 9950x 170W is great compared to the 14900K that needs 253W to achieve it's marketed performance.
I was thinking about building a pc with the 7900xt and the r7 7800x3d. Should i still wait on the cpu even if there is a good deal going on?
No now is good for you because the X3D versions weren't announced here.
That’s a good combo
I have a 14900k and I’m having FOMO on this already 😭😂
This is why competition is needed can’t wait to see what Intel brings to the table
What's the problem?
All else fails you limit to 300A and still beat a World record 7800x3d in productivity. And still hit 5.8Ghz in gaming. Also idle on 5W average using power saver in web surfing and simple tasks.
You have to watch the lite load on MSI boards, but limiting the AMPS is the surefire way to bring usage down.
If you do ALL CORE voltage apply mode and not Offset mode your idle Wattage will be much higher.
You watch, they'll be bragging on everything at black friday anyways. Just like they did on the 14900K. Took 2 years for these guys to say that Intel was unstable, cause they wanted to sell some last year.....
I’m a 3D animation student. I have a 5900X, 3080ti amd 128 gigs of ram. Would you say upgrading to a 5900xt would be worth it for rendering on MAYA?
Really it's like 2 Months since July 31, 2024 seems to be the Release Date for the Ryzen 9000.
time flies
i remember was like lying on bed confused until like january-february then decided to use the laptop
though the audio really been there for years, it was just me didnt notice
just happened out of boredomness
think ive documented it, the day we start developing audio, maybe deleted
Lackluster release, the benchmark was against 14900k with 6400mhz memory, with higher speed memory, it will just be on par with raptor lake,
🧂🧂🧂😂😂😂intel fanboys
@@itsatrap4986 I’m just being objective here, all I care about is fps,
So no Ryzen 3 again😔
I just got a 7800x3d for 266$ from AliExpress. I was going to buy a motherboard next but now I think I'll wait till the b850 or x870 come out .
Smart. I got my 5600 for $90 shipped and it came in 6 days. The 5700X3D is only $180.
Congrats on the purchase! Good luck with the rest of your buys, and thanks for tuning in :)
I wonder how much the new motherboard are going to be I have am4 motherboard but eventually wanna go am5 and just want to buy a motherboard and ram and sit on it until I heard about the new cpus.
I would say if you're going AM5 wait just in Case the new Motherboards cause B650 Motherboards to drop in price.
Will the new 9000 cpus have graphics? What type? 8xxm?
Hello, I am researching midrange desktop PC's for Windows 11 in the hope of upgrading one with a standard ATX PSU and video card. I have so far looked at the Dell Optiplex 7070, Dell Inspiron 3020 and the Acer T-1760. All good systems but very difficult to upgrade the PSU for a good video card. Currently a Radeon RX 6400, but planning to upgrade to at least a RX 6600.
I am on fixed budget however it is beginning to appear I may have to build a PC from scratch. That is fine however it has been over a decade since I have done that. It might be more expensive but at least I could buy the parts over the next few months.
I have ancient Compaq Presario with a Seasonic 520 watt PSU that has only been turned on a few times in the last few years. That old Compaq has three features not found on most modern mid range desktops from what I have seen.
1. a motherboard that has a 24 pin ATX connector.
2. A case that easily accepts a standard ATX PSU. I had no trouble upgrading the original 300 watt to the 520 watt Seasonic.
3. A case fan not found in the Acer T1760.
I am toying with the idea of using that old case to modernize with maybe a motherboard etc. from one of these systems. On the other hand I may buy new parts to install into that case unless I am forced into buying a new case.
Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks.
So if you do decide to build from scratch here's a build for you.
It's about the cheapest I could get using good new parts.
It's list / 9V43YN in PC Part Picker
@@kelley09162 Thank you very much.🙂
Over 9000! Was perfect 😂. AMD vs Intel is getting spicy
What is max RAM capacity on x870 boards? 128, 192, 256?
I hope they make a 5950x-3D chip but I doubt it
Any idea what the igp is on the Ryzen 9000? I am assuming it won't be the same as the mobile AI.
Is there any increment to the number of cpie lanes ?
I would have loved a 5800x3D on a smaller node.
If eventually want to build a pc for both gaming and productivity (video editing etc) but want it to be great for gaming as well is it better to take the "3D" or non 3D cpu?
If you're doing video editing very often or as a job, go with an Intel CPU with igpu for the benefits of quicksync. If it's just something you do occasionally and gaming is your main thing, get an X3D CPU if you can.
For a gaming majority and production secondary I’d go 7800X3D. Still a beast at production. If you’re a professional and plan to do some gaming than a 14700K is the best for that
Jason. Would you take a 9700x over the top epyc 4000s 65w equivalent for a server build?
Server isn't something I'm really qualified to comment on and I don't know the EPYC lineup the way I know the consumer CPUs. Maybe Wendel from Level 1 Techs?
I'm Exited about these Announcements: 1. AM 4 Platform Life Extension! 2. AM 5 Platform Life Extended to 2027! I may still have time to make the Jump to AM5 ??
so glad I picked a Asrock B650e Taichi Lite. basically all x870e features lmao
Nice!
Why wait for the new CPU for gaming , while 7 7800x3d is never going to be a bottleneck for any GPU( may be only for 4090 in some cases) . New cpu for gaming is simply not needed as of now
I hope the new motherboard chipset brings with it no memory training and posts just as fast as Intel.
The pairing of graphics card and CPU isn't that strange. I'm currently planning on building a computer with a 5950X, which costs about $50 more than the CPU they used, and the graphics card I'm planning to use is exactly the same.
This goes against the standard advice on your channel (and others) about trying primarily to get a CPU strong enough to not bottleneck alongside a graphics card that's as powerful as you can afford. And that's good advice ... *if* your only goal is to make a powerful gaming computer which doesn't get used for anything more CPU intensive.
If you have CPU intensive tasks as well, a better CPU helps a lot. And if your goals for gaming aren't that intensive, the 6600 gives you plenty of performance.
The 12 year old potato graphics card I have often struggles with 1024x768 at low settings. The worst is Path of Exile, where I can't go over 800x600. Mostly it stays around 12-15 fps, but occasionally it drops to 5 fps.
I don't know if you've ever played a game at 5 fps, but it feels less like frames per second, and more like seconds per frame.
All I need from my graphics card is that it isn't a potato. I want to be able to play modern games without worrying that I won't be able to run it at all, and I want better than slideshow frame rates.
Any chance this will make the 7800x3D even cheaper?
I really want to upgrade to an AMD board & looking for a new CPU
Eventually yes but not right away, they usually keep prices steady or bring them up on existing gens to encourage people to buy the latest gen
I think it's intersting that the opinions on screen resolutions differs so much. On this channel it's "Get a 1440P gaming monitor!" while on some others it's more "Get a 4K monitor, don't bother with 1440P.
Personally I like 1440 monitors. Thing is 4K is just too much for the affordable GPU's. Besides my eyes might be part of it as I can just read text on a 27" 1440p display. On 4K the text is just too small. "So up the scale!" No, because not all programs respect the scaling that Windows provides. Besides I like having more text on screen as long as I can read it.
There are dravbacks of using a lower res. For instance when gaming I really prefer to run at native resolution, but if the system can't produce the frame rate it's preferable to lower the resolution to some decent fraction. A fraction of two for the resolution is often the best. With a 4K display this is 1920 x 1080 pixels or a quarter the number of pixels. The scaling is simple using 2 by 2 pixels on the 4K screen for each 1080p pixel. Sure it look a bit rough, but there isn't any other scaling artifacts necessary. With a 1440p display it's 1280 x 720 that can be represented by 2 by2 monitor pixels per game pixel. That's a much lower resolution and not really all that attractive if projected on a 27" screen or larger.
Another thing that's sometimes irritating with 4K screens are the maximum refresh rate. Now I'll admit that it doesn't bother me but 4K monitors are limited to about 240 Hz refresh, and that requires a Display Port 2.1 capable of supporting 80Gbs. First of all GPU's supporting this is limited, and second of all the longest cables handling this is currently 1 or 1.2 meters long. More than that and severe signal problems will occur.
Now personally I'm perfectly happy at about 100 Hz refresh rate, but there are a lot of people who really want to hit 240Hz or preferably even more.
1440p monitors have less problems with the ports and cables needed for high refresh rates.
Now most of this is problems that will get resolved in a few years. But for now I think I prefer 1440p screens.
AMD stepping up their game
I was just about to buy a 7800x3D with a B650 motherboard total build is about $1600. Should I wait or build now?
If it's for Gaming no because the X3D versions didn't come out.
The 7800X3D is a great CPU choice.
You can wait if you want to but that’s an amazing CPU and your time has value too. See our 7800X3D build guide if that’s helpful
I think I’ll upgrade my 3900X to the 5900XT im not jumping the ship to AM5 still
I’d strongly recommend the 5800X3D or 5700X3D instead
I’m new to this trying to build my first pc, I am in the upper range budget for just starting but need guidance. I will be prioritizing machine learning and gaming. Which cpu should I go with? Which brand do people recommend?
Also should I be prioritizing this or the gpu, currently I am looking at
RTX 4070 Ti 600-700 12GB
@@rushaddaruwalla5887 what's your budget for this PC, and is your primary use Gaming or Machine Learning, or is it a 50/50 split?
@@kelley09162 my budget is just under 2000, I am leaning towards i7 14700 with sapphire pulse Radeon RX 7900 TX. I already have a solid 4k monitor. I want a solid mix of both (60% machine learning ,40% gaming) so I think this would give me the best of both worlds. If you like this combo which mother board do you
Recommend. I am trying to go much lighter in price on this.
@@rushaddaruwalla5887so here's a build for you with a 14700K and 7900XTX.
It's list / Jx2CRK in PC Part Picker
@@rushaddaruwalla5887if you want to be cheaper you can go 7900X on the CPU instead.
It's list / NJktDZ in PC Part Picker