GeForce GPUs Are "Gross" Now, AI Taking Over: Steve & Steve Discuss

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  • @Hardwareunboxed
    @Hardwareunboxed  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +419

    We also filmed a video with Steve that you can watch on the Gamers Nexus channel here: th-cam.com/video/grvBNip77tY/w-d-xo.html

    • @edellenburg78
      @edellenburg78 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      I think two Steve's in the same frame must be AI generated

    • @robertlawrence9000
      @robertlawrence9000 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      It would have been funny to have one Steve on the left audio channel and the other Steve on the right audio channel and both say at the same time, "AI AI AI." Steve's in Stereo. Good video!

    • @henrythegreatamerican8136
      @henrythegreatamerican8136 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Oh man, did you catch that at 7:58? It was like he suddenly remembered he was in a shampoo commercial. The eye blinks and hair flip combo. If there was a prize for "Most Unintentionally Creepy Fabio Impression," he'd be taking home the gold. The guy next to him must've been thinking, "Did I miss the memo on today's flirtation tactics, or is this just an off-Broadway audition for a new horror flick?"

    • @crossmission
      @crossmission 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      "Thank you Steve, and to out tech correspondent Steve."

    • @insideline158
      @insideline158 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Listen, I know it's great that you two have colab videos. But I think it really harms your credibility as Steves when you've done a few videos already but haven't done a DragonBallZFusionDance.gif yet

  • @GamersNexus
    @GamersNexus 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +984

    Loved this video. Also the outro was the best part. Really fun discussion and great way to end Computex. Can't wait to do this again at the next event where worlds collide!

    • @dertythegrower
      @dertythegrower 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Cheers.

    • @QueenMar1ka
      @QueenMar1ka 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      Appreciate both of you, you bold mofos.

    • @InderjeetSingh-im3eh
      @InderjeetSingh-im3eh 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      Thanks Steve.

    • @RobBCactive
      @RobBCactive 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      And back to you, Steve ...
      thanks Steve!

    • @weltsiebenhundert
      @weltsiebenhundert 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Was this Steve² or 2Steve?

  • @peternicol3439
    @peternicol3439 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1972

    The more you Steve, The more you Steve!

    • @peternicol3439
      @peternicol3439 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

      We need to find another hardware reviewer named Tim so we can have Timception to go with Steveception and maybe try and get Wendellception while we're at it.

    • @qwertyusen
      @qwertyusen 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +65

      Steve from RandomGamingInHD soon will join

    • @IlMemetor72
      @IlMemetor72 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      ​@@qwertyusenyes😂

    • @Tautolonaut
      @Tautolonaut 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      @@peternicol3439 If I understand correctly, you need to combine several Steves to create one Wendel.

    • @zoltak_dj
      @zoltak_dj 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      The more you Steve the more you watch ;)

  • @JamesSmith-sw3nk
    @JamesSmith-sw3nk 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1865

    Right after this was filmed, they both pulled out a sword and yelled: "There can only be one!"

    • @Hardwareunboxed
      @Hardwareunboxed  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +323

      haha :D

    • @VoldoronGaming
      @VoldoronGaming 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      lol!

    • @thegreathadoken6808
      @thegreathadoken6808 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +155

      Steve won.

    • @emmata98
      @emmata98 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +83

      ​@@thegreathadoken6808The one with the beard

    • @AbbasDalal1000
      @AbbasDalal1000 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

      Patreon exclusive*

  • @heickelrrx
    @heickelrrx 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +651

    This is getting out of hand, now there is 2 of them

    • @wfb.subtraktor311
      @wfb.subtraktor311 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      They do move in herds!

    • @charlesballiet7074
      @charlesballiet7074 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      they have gone XXsteveXX-RTX level

    • @peanutnutter1
      @peanutnutter1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@wfb.subtraktor311 Watch out when they Stampeve

    • @GeorgeD1
      @GeorgeD1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      ...Always has been...

    • @juliogodoy8296
      @juliogodoy8296 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      LTT's worst nightmare 😂

  • @JarrodsTech
    @JarrodsTech 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +874

    This completes my TH-cam cinematic universe 😌

    • @HanmaHeiro
      @HanmaHeiro 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Jeez what a fanboy you are 😅 it's always nice seeing another creator watches a peer

    • @JarrodsTech
      @JarrodsTech 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +61

      @@HanmaHeiro I'm Hardware Unboxed numba 1 fan

    • @richied5294
      @richied5294 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Hi Jarrod , strange seeing you here, I just watched your 3050-4050 laptop vid this morning lol

    • @slimal1
      @slimal1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Lame ​@@JarrodsTech
      I'm a Steve fan 😂

    • @SlyNine
      @SlyNine 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is how my brain works too

  • @MarcoGPUtuber
    @MarcoGPUtuber 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +721

    Back to you, Steve!

    • @saptaksarkar30468
      @saptaksarkar30468 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

      Thank you Steve

    • @WyattOShea
      @WyattOShea 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      69th like :P

    • @SwordQuake2
      @SwordQuake2 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Thanks, Steve!

    • @BlackJesus8463
      @BlackJesus8463 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      lol

    • @dkman123
      @dkman123 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Back to you Steves. FTFY

  • @McElvisss
    @McElvisss 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +393

    It’s Gamers Unboxed! Back to you, Steve.

    • @da-voodoo-shuffle
      @da-voodoo-shuffle 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +53

      Hardware Nexus

    • @hunterfabio
      @hunterfabio 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @@da-voodoo-shuffle That actually sounds nice lol

    • @OfSheikah
      @OfSheikah 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      other two variants found in the backstages of Computex near that secretive quantom computer exhibit would be:
      Gamers Hardware
      Nexus Unboxed

    • @wfb.subtraktor311
      @wfb.subtraktor311 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​​​@@OfSheikahYou forgot Hardware Gamers, Unboxed Nexus, Unboxed Gamers, and, most importantly, Nexus Hardware!

    • @wfb.subtraktor311
      @wfb.subtraktor311 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​​@@OfSheikahNot to mention all the combos you can make using 3 of the terms or all of the terms.

  • @collinkelly7349
    @collinkelly7349 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +290

    Unacceptable. Where is the “Thank you Steve” clip???

    • @recyclebin
      @recyclebin 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

      They did the bit in the GN video (listed ~1 hour ago).

    • @eugkra33
      @eugkra33 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      GN must owns the clip by now

    • @TechNinja.1701
      @TechNinja.1701 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The "Thanks Steve" is more a GN meme - but I'm not sure what the Hardware Unboxed equivalent is.
      Maybe it's something more 'Melburnian' (where HU comes from) like "Go the Steves!" or "Stevie Stevie Stevie, oi - oi - oi!!!"... or maybe we'll just chuck it all in the 'too hard basket' and "go bush" instead.

  • @john_enx
    @john_enx 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +117

    When you read AI stickers in a toaster with zero AI capabilities, literally just analog switches... than you know its a gold fever.

    • @Paul_Sleeping
      @Paul_Sleeping 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      For now it is. Our children generations later will be dealing with a completely different economy where the definition of "having a job" is different than what we had as everything is manufactured and managed by AI and robots.

    • @LtCommanderTato
      @LtCommanderTato 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@Paul_Sleeping It will be awful, the endgame is having zero freedom. Everything will be censored.

    • @chronometer9931
      @chronometer9931 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@Paul_SleepingThat's completely different from what the OP is talking about. You're still not going to have a real AI toaster and why would you, that's the point he's making. This is about sales perception. Maybe in the future you'll have a robot that operates the toaster. This same thing has been happening in China for years now. AI this, AI that and it's all products with no AI in it, just lies to sell products and that's what the OP is talking about...

    • @chronometer9931
      @chronometer9931 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Paul_Sleepingit's cloud computing all over again. Lies to sell products...

    • @DystopianOverture
      @DystopianOverture 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yeah I'm getting gold rush vibes from this. I'm seeing food blenders with AI written on the box. The 'AI features' is just a timer that has a single button to 'activate the AI' 🙄

  • @yonkocommander5531
    @yonkocommander5531 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +81

    “Back to you Steve, thanks Steve”
    Steve.

    • @keovezo
      @keovezo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I wonder what Steve thinks about this

    • @kingqasmoke2802
      @kingqasmoke2802 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@keovezo Probably the same as Steve thinks about it

  • @iceman_official
    @iceman_official 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +81

    The "stalker from the bushes" camera angle is my favorite one, reminds me my best moments enjoying my hobby

    • @OfSheikah
      @OfSheikah 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      they do good practice of viewer engagement just from the comfort of the cameraman

    • @Rogerkonijntje
      @Rogerkonijntje 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      😂 deserves at least 1,5 internets

  • @EEESRAINMAN
    @EEESRAINMAN 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    If "actual" journalists had as much journalistic integrity as the two Steves, perhaps written media wouldn't be dying the way it is

  • @HotDog-yf2je
    @HotDog-yf2je 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +154

    you guys standing in a field of roses and Steve just occasionally fondling and twirling his hair as you guys smile at each other was a bit... well, maybe I am reading into it too much

    • @Hardwareunboxed
      @Hardwareunboxed  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +97

      Yeah I'd keep those thoughts to yourself :D :P

    • @Oniphire
      @Oniphire 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

      No, no, keep reading

    • @TheHighborn
      @TheHighborn 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

      I wasn't ready to Ship the Steves, nor am I ready now but.....
      I'll do what I must.

    • @jpartlow01
      @jpartlow01 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      @@Hardwareunboxed but picture the Steves fanfic subreddit! lol think of the memes!

    • @Henchman314
      @Henchman314 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      5:56 I mean, just look at 'em, looking at each other. 😂

  • @adamhafiddin9564
    @adamhafiddin9564 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +148

    The more you STEVE, the more you STEVE

    • @OfSheikah
      @OfSheikah 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      STEVE STEVE STEVE [STEVE], STEVE STEVE STEVE [STEVE]

    • @Rogerkonijntje
      @Rogerkonijntje 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This deserves moar!

    • @haukikannel
      @haukikannel 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Just believe it!

    • @charlesswenson259
      @charlesswenson259 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Incorrect, even Steven.

  • @AxleLotl
    @AxleLotl 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    GAH! I was so hoping the intro was gonna be, "Welcome to Gamers Unboxed!" Then the two Steve's pull a ribbon on a huge cardboard box next to them, and Tim jumps out 😂😂😭😭

  • @tanmaypanadi1414
    @tanmaypanadi1414 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +64

    4:22 whats going on with those camera angles from the bushes?

    • @JackDangerous
      @JackDangerous 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      They're tapping into the tech perverts user base.

    • @dertythegrower
      @dertythegrower 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      camera man had new ideas, and he forgot to zoom

    • @barfo281
      @barfo281 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      It's just a weird video, overall.

    • @emmata98
      @emmata98 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      More cameras mean more creativity^^

    • @Hardwareunboxed
      @Hardwareunboxed  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +131

      @@barfo281 you're a weird video.

  • @zodwraith5745
    @zodwraith5745 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    As someone that's been reading tech media since a decade before TH-cam even launched, I've long since noted a large difference in narrative between written and video format news and reviews. Traditional written "hobby based" media has generally always handled the companies they write about with kid gloves as they're the main source of income to said media. When you're only making $40k/yr you rely heavily on early samples and advertising from said companies to be able to do your job. While TH-cam may pay shit, that *_view_* is far more valuable to company marketing and advertising than a banner ad on a review website, or printed ad in a magazine.
    Heavier exposure in video format and a far more captive audience has shifted the power of the narrative from the sponsors to the content creators. _You._ This has emboldened the video creator to be more likely to expose when these companies perform in less than reputable ways, where print would generally avoid any controversy unless it was truly egregious.
    And if anything is needed in today's ever increasing inflation while companies continue to post record profits year over year it's a public voice that speaks for the consumer, and not for a sponsor. I, for one, _welcome_ the power of the narrative to be shifted towards the tech media and not the sponsors they're beholden to. That doesn't mean turn into crusaders who's only goal is the hunt for wrongdoing and attacking companies at random, but GN has been more than fair with full disclosure in any expose he's done showing where he gave companies several opportunities to right their wrongs before making anything public. It's exactly that integrity that makes me respect GN all that much more.

    • @EbonySaints
      @EbonySaints 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Replying for slow clap and to get people to read that comment.

  • @whitemoses7913
    @whitemoses7913 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +65

    Rumors are the two Steves enjoy Taipei so much they chose to stay...

    • @cementguy2183
      @cementguy2183 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      They went to the night market to visit the lady selling vegetables.

    • @jasonhurdlow6607
      @jasonhurdlow6607 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And in response China called off all plans for an invasion.

    • @evilhunter64
      @evilhunter64 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Taiwan

    • @jasonhurdlow6607
      @jasonhurdlow6607 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      LOL. My comment was removed. Freaking censorship! Can't offend that country with all those people that's just across the straight! :(

    • @Animal_lives_matter
      @Animal_lives_matter 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@evilhunter64
      cHiNeSe tAiPei

  • @nonamenameless5495
    @nonamenameless5495 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Lol, the MSI laptop event meeting story and the reaction was pure gold :)

  • @thaddeuscosse9527
    @thaddeuscosse9527 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    I imagine a MST3K (Mystery Science Theatre 3k) style show with Steve. Steve, Tim, reacting to the Nvidia Keynote.

    • @ffsireallydontcare
      @ffsireallydontcare 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ahhh! We've got BS Sign!!!

    • @charlesswenson259
      @charlesswenson259 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Steve should do mst3k style reviews of all sorts of stuff. That would rule

  • @Mi2Lethal
    @Mi2Lethal 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Finally a video of Steve just talking to himself for 18 minutes.

  • @pivorsc
    @pivorsc 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    nVidia just dont consider consumer GPU as their main market, GeForce is just there to keep competition in check, meanwhile they do real money in enterprise industry

  • @supabass4003
    @supabass4003 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    2 Fast 2 Steve

    • @CptJistuce
      @CptJistuce 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      2 Steve 2 Quit

    • @charlesswenson259
      @charlesswenson259 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@CptJistuceMo' Steve, Mo' problems

  • @ma-saracen
    @ma-saracen 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +121

    Multiverse tech is getting wild

  • @WayStedYou
    @WayStedYou 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +48

    The two Steve of the apocalypse, there better be a "back to you Steve" in this.

    • @chrislee8970
      @chrislee8970 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Haha, yes! Random video cut collaborations. Turn it into a complete SNL skit "Wrong Steve, control...cut to the other one quick!"

  • @CantankerousDave
    @CantankerousDave 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +78

    14:00 - clearly too young to remember that Intel actually *did* run ads featuring “chipset nerds” around 15 years ago. A guy struts into an office to rock music, women swoon and men hold up pictures for him to autograph. The lower third IDs him as the co-inventor of USB. “Our rock stars aren’t your rock stars. Intel.”

    • @Markyparky56
      @Markyparky56 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      "Intel Rock Star Spot" for those looking to search this up

    • @rogehmarbi
      @rogehmarbi 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I sort of remember this... I think it ended with a group of people chanting the "Intel chime" IIRC

    • @CantankerousDave
      @CantankerousDave 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@Markyparky56There were also the ads with the dancers in the clean room suits. And the ones with the Blue Man Group. That’s like MMX and Pentium II era.

    • @Akkbar21
      @Akkbar21 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I remember that

    • @GewelReal
      @GewelReal 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I mean, who wouldn't want to meet inventors of USB?

  • @somedude96
    @somedude96 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    Steveception

  • @KieranShort
    @KieranShort 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    4:11 Stalker cam! 👀

    • @zoltak_dj
      @zoltak_dj 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Creeper Cam

  • @likemetoo2
    @likemetoo2 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    It's the same as when taco bell win the franchise wars and only the rich can afford to eat there while we are left to eat rat burgers underground.

  • @libertyninetyone
    @libertyninetyone 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    The more you merge the more you AI

  • @MrBuraksan
    @MrBuraksan 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    15:59 How Steve changes his approach when he heard MSI is Steve's sponsor. Guys, too many Steves. I am confused too :D

    • @Fluke1x
      @Fluke1x 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I thought it was a joke, but then I went back to the ad after reading this comment, and it really was. lmao

  • @thegreathadoken6808
    @thegreathadoken6808 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    American Steve would make an awesome Dwarf in a Lord of the Rings show. Would also make a pretty convincing Klingon.

    • @sanitychecktv
      @sanitychecktv 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Klingon Steve complaining about the dropping quality of gagh would definitely be a treat.

  • @HablaConOwens
    @HablaConOwens 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

    Game of thrones betrayal in the gardens camera angles

  • @ckmichael8
    @ckmichael8 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I mean when you think in Jansen or Lisa's perspective, so now you get this very limited 3nm die from TSMC, and you can make it a gamer chip, price it at 2k and get cursed by gameds, or those AI companies will beg you to sell it to them at 20k, or even 40k for Nvidia, it is pretty obvious what you should do.

  • @bigjohn2811
    @bigjohn2811 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    All the money pumping into AI and other non gaming endeavors will help the PC gaming in the long run. Expensive technology always trickles down to consumer components. Nvidia wouldn't have a $3 trillion plus market cap if it was only selling gaming gpus. This market cap helps Nvidia helps enhance developing next generations of GPUs. It's good that Nvidia has diverse product lines.

  • @johnnygreene4658
    @johnnygreene4658 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Two of the best Tech TH-cam's on here. Good episode guy's.

  • @bradeinarsen
    @bradeinarsen 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The "MSI is a sponsor" part is so epic. (they rock, by the way)

  • @em.dot.2
    @em.dot.2 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    The "cameraman behind the bush" alternate angle shot makes me feel like Tim is spying on the conversation

  • @MNaka-uf9yz
    @MNaka-uf9yz 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Steve said it!
    At the wafer scale if you pit individuals against big corporations that are able to afford AI chips like H100, that's a no brainer, GeForce is now just the TSMC/Samsung leftovers (best case scenario) or some "charity" done by nVidia because you can't give up on the market that made you right away.
    In the entire history of GPUs or even semi conductors, nothing disrupted wafer square cm ROI more than AI.
    For that reason alone, i have little to no hope for next GPU generations pricing, the GPU market will be stale in few generations unless the AI market deflates.

    • @EdDale44135
      @EdDale44135 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’m expecting the 5090 to not be released. They have no pressure from AMD or Intel, the chips could be sold for 10x more as AI acceleration tools, and games can’t stress the 4090. We are only going to get AI chips that failed into being 5080 or 5070 level performance.

  • @Lucky223
    @Lucky223 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    You guys are awesome. Keep it up 👍

  • @MrAnimescrazy
    @MrAnimescrazy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Yes a lot of gamers are entitled. People keep bitching about A.I. just shut up it is here to stay get over it. You dont have to use it and yeah I see a lot of gamers crying over a gpu they can't afford in the first place or dont even need and crying about other pc components they can't afford. To me it is funny to see. I can't wait to see the 3rd party benchmarks for the 5090 and the next x3d chips. Also one of the biggest things I see is that since people bought the product or products that the company or companies owes you something. You bought the product because you like it and it works. It is really that simple and if you dont like the products there are other companies selling parts.

  • @cassini7677
    @cassini7677 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I missed so much 8600gt/960gtx era :'( all still normal prices, now after pandemic all become so bad and sad era........

    • @yellowblanka6058
      @yellowblanka6058 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Big part of it was basement dwellers buying up cards at ludicrous prices for crypto farming, ruined it for the rest of us.

    • @My_Old_YT_Account
      @My_Old_YT_Account 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@yellowblanka6058I wouldn't be so sure, this all happened before, in 2017 or 2018, and once the crypto crashed, prices went back to normal. The miners buying thousands of overpriced cards eventually sell them for practically nothing, this is why the best bang for buck gpu right now is the RX 580.

  • @reviewforthetube6485
    @reviewforthetube6485 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Dude some of yall cannot take a joke. I like them because of that joke lol also us gamers are entitled and we do complain about everything. Its hard for any conpany or brand not to gain slight destain.
    The community is def way way to sensitive.

  • @mariokuppers5686
    @mariokuppers5686 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Thanks to Roman. Without his sponsoring Steve & Steve wouldn´t happen. Thanks Roman, Thanks Steve and Steve

  • @VatiWah
    @VatiWah 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    once nvidia goes chiplets.. they gonna abandon gamers if AI is still going strong by then. they are using all those defective dies on GPU's for the moment, but yeah, chiplets gonna allow nvidia to use those defective dies on server/AI grade products.

  • @kazioo2
    @kazioo2 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    You will have iGPUs in your SoCs and you will be happy. Look at Apple. Do you see any dGPUs in their computers? They are architecturally 5 years ahead, it's like looking into the future. (ignoring how anticonsumer and antideveloper their software ecosystems are)

    • @bananabro980
      @bananabro980 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      unified ram is the future sadly consumers lose every time

  • @ZeroHourProductions407
    @ZeroHourProductions407 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    nvidia: $2000 user errors for sale
    gamer: wtf we can't afford that
    nvidia: "ew gross" *scam for sale*
    gamer: wtf
    jensen: _laughs in $80k for a glorified quadro_
    crypto&nft bros: *picketing for AI*
    intel Arc division: _laughs in rebar required_
    gamer pc: "No rebar?"
    intel Arc: "0.0000000000000000002fps in Windows 95, take it or leave it"
    AMD Radeon division: _cackles in $900 rx 7600_
    gamer: wtf bro
    Radeon division: _eating paste in the corner_
    gamer: GabeN dammit
    GabeN: _laughs in forsaking TF2_
    Sony&Microsoft: "buy our console!"
    the console: *404*
    gamer: "alright, *FINE!*" _buys the console_
    console maker: "Thanks. Oh, you're banned" *laughs in money stolen*
    gamer: *RAGE DEFEATIST SCREAMING*

    • @bananabro980
      @bananabro980 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i got out sold all my high end stuff built a midrange a770 136k new/used for under 1k now gathering dust really does feel like golden age of gaming is long since dead doesnt it

  • @JogBird
    @JogBird 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    honestly i think that gaming graphics have plateaued and are only limted by the art direction.. the only need for more gpu power is if you want photo realistic visuals, and not everyone wants that

    • @Spitlebug
      @Spitlebug 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I used to say this, but they just keep getting better and better.
      I've been around since monochrome was it.
      My everything hurts.

    • @kazioo2
      @kazioo2 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Art directions are still limited by computing power, especially anything dealing with fluid dynamics, smoke, sand etc. And true dynamic lighting is still taking high end GPUs to heir knees. But it's definitely drastically less limiting than in the past. I realized it playing a mobile port on PC seeing some of the most beautiful locations ever... on PC.

    • @coachmcguirk8277
      @coachmcguirk8277 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      More gpu power lessens the pressure on developers to make everything ultra optimal. I know gamers are going to shout "just don't be lazy and optimize your games", but that's easy for them to say since they're not the ones who have to spend months of their lives doing it. I like being able to leverage the hardware to remove some of the workload. Who wants to spend 5 years working on the same game?

    • @rolandohiebert2144
      @rolandohiebert2144 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Draw distance, crowd density/variety, real time fluid dynamics and other aspects of physics all still have a long way to go. UE5 Nanite is amazing for draw distance but in Fortnite at least it's still not quite there yet.

    • @Argoon1981
      @Argoon1981 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Spitlebug That is a matter of opinion.
      I have games with 11 years that to me look better than some modern games, art direction is king but very underrated by most gamers.
      I used to really care about graphics but that stopped more or less in ~2013 were games reached a "good enough" state to me.

  • @fall1n1_yt
    @fall1n1_yt 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Gamers are the reason why the *consumer* market is dominated by Nvidia.

  • @TheGeneReyva
    @TheGeneReyva 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    I wouldn't say it's "being entitled" when you just want to not be ripped off.

    • @MaaZeus
      @MaaZeus 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Bingo. We were always happy when there was a good GPU that offered us a good bang for the buck without bankrupting us for a year. But lately it feels like Nvidia and AMD are trying to... excuse the mental image... fist us without a lube and telling us to love it. Is it any wonder people are complaining?

    • @andersjjensen
      @andersjjensen 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      This all went tits up when Nvidia retired the Titan branding and introduced the 90 class. They were already there, but common gamers happily ignored them because they weren't called GeForce. Doesn't mean wealthy gamers didn't buy them and brag about it, though.
      But Steve was right: If you look at the $/mm2 of a GPU it's ballpark the same as a CPU. But that doesn't cover the cost of VRAM, half a motherboard's worth of components and a cooling solution. If you set all the peripherals to 30% of a graphics card on average (more for the low end, less for the high end) then you're getting chip real-estate for bargain prices.

    • @fleurdewin7958
      @fleurdewin7958 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Remember what Jensen said on stage after he said " The more you buy, the more you save" ?
      It was followed up with ; "CEO math is not accurate but it is correct"
      So , GeForce not accurately priced for gamers , but it is correct price according to Nvidia

    • @andersjjensen
      @andersjjensen 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MaaZeus Let's imagine for a second that the 90 class disappeared back into being called Titan, and Nvidia never marketed them to gamers. Then currently the (cheapest non-open-box-or-refurb) 4080 Super is $980 and the 7900XTX is $900 on newegg. Let's compare that to:
      TNT2 Ultra, 1999, $300 -> Inflation: $565.
      GeForce 3 Ti500, 2001, $350 -> Inflation $660.
      GeForce FX 5950 Ultra, 2003, $500 -> Inflation $942.
      Those were the "ramping years" where Nvidia found out that A) You have to have the absolute fastest graphics card, no matter what, because that drives sales of you lower offerings, and B) There are enough gamers with deep pockets that it's also financially worthwhile to have stupidly expensive products.
      Nothing has changed... except people's perception and levels of disposable income. But everyone is fixated on the existence of the 4090 but keep forgetting that the "2090" (Titan RTX) was $2500 in 2018, the "1090" (Titan X) was $1200 in 2016, the "990" (GTX titan) was $1000 in 2013, and so on and so forth.
      Currently a good bang for buck GPU would be the 7700XT for $380 or a 4070 for $550 or a 4070 Super for $585. All three will do 4K 60FPS or 1440p 120FPS with very high settings. And those are prices (when adjusted for inflation) that tracks very well with previous "7 class" hardware going back over a decade.

  • @BeyondEllisBeck
    @BeyondEllisBeck 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My question is why AMD or Intel don't combine HBM memory to their mobile SoCs to help iGPU bandwidth? That might be exactly what they need to get an extra 30-50% performance boost. These iGPU are Bandwidth starved and HBM would've been revolutionary on Lunar Lake instead of those two modules of 8533mhz LPDDR5X.

  • @busterbubble5722
    @busterbubble5722 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    the theory of steverything is now complete

  • @CMDR_Shokwave
    @CMDR_Shokwave 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fun fact: If you bought $1600 worth of NVDA stock, about 14 shares iirc when the 4090 released, you would have $16000 now (also, tax-free gains with a roth IRA). This is why you should mix some investment videos into your gaming videos consumption (and why i buy NVDA shares constantly).

  • @DarkPST
    @DarkPST 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Thanks Steves

  • @BriniaSona
    @BriniaSona 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nivida wants you using thier expensive GPUS, or geforce now, they don;t want people having GPU's anymore. There's way more profit in geforce now or selling business grade gpu's.

  • @roguebanana69420
    @roguebanana69420 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +69

    we got steve and steve collab before gta 6

  • @balaran4349
    @balaran4349 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I own a RTX 4090 TUF and I agree they are hideously expensive. I do love the performance of the card tho its ridiculously fast with 24GB of vram. But I do see how people with a smaller budget need better options. Nvidia really should do better...

  • @codexpcs
    @codexpcs 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Steve™

  • @xExekut3x
    @xExekut3x 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i haven't bought a computer component since the GTX 980, and i doubt i ever will again .. shit's getting outrageously expensive and i refuse to support it. if my work didn't provide me with a laptop, i'd only game on a console.

  • @gsestream
    @gsestream 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    thanks steves. discussting. you have the same sponsors, are you affiliated. lol. yeah those H1000 or A1000 whatnot cards would make a nice arcade real time rt gaming experience. yep fully path traced.

    • @bryce.ferenczi
      @bryce.ferenczi 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They don't have RT cores, only "RTX" cards do.

    • @gsestream
      @gsestream 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bryce.ferenczi compute or dedicated, rt or tpu or whatever. gpu compute. software shaders or hardware. ie not cpu compute. any dedicated compute that can do ray tracing stuff fast. really fast. up to petaflops of ray tracing compute. any manner. only the total usable compute amount matters. not the type.

  • @recherth.robert
    @recherth.robert 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    When two of the best benchmarkers collab, they make life perfect.

  • @PragmaticTornado
    @PragmaticTornado 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I've been buying GeForce GPU's for over 25 years, and apart from one single Radeon chip, have remained faithful. But I am actively rooting for AMD now, due to Nvidias disgusting price hikes, recent attitude towards us and in general being too greedy for their own good.

  • @brucethen
    @brucethen 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Back to you Steve

  • @berndkemmereit8252
    @berndkemmereit8252 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Yes, a lot of gamers behave entitled when it comes to GPU's. 4k gaming is expensive accept it. If you are asking for the same FPS on 4k as you had on 1080, it is logic that you need to pay more for it. 1080 gaming is still cheap and cheaper then ever.

  • @tackyinbention6248
    @tackyinbention6248 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Tanks Steve
    Coming in for that 1min old video

  • @mindsunwound
    @mindsunwound 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    nVidia has been gross for... A while now... How long has it been since the 1060 came out?
    "Let me give a concrete example" _proceeds to give vague non-specific example_ 😂

  • @102728
    @102728 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    If I had a nickel for each Steve, I'd have 2 nickels. Which isn't a lot, but still more than you'd expect

    • @OfSheikah
      @OfSheikah 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      if I too had a nickel for each Tim and Patrick, I'd have three nickles. Which is surprisingly more than counting Steves

  • @zerotactix5739
    @zerotactix5739 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    There is truth to it. Gamers ARE gross now. Bitching and whining over things that don't really matter or matter too much. I'm ashamed to be recognized as a gamer just because I love the hobby. When you have actual problems in life, in-game politics don't affect you nearly as much. If gameplay is good and price is fair, that's all that matters.

  • @ravenkroft
    @ravenkroft 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Thanks, Steves!

  • @GB-zi6qr
    @GB-zi6qr 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I believe the level of Steve has reached critical mass. 😆
    Edit: Outstanding Video!!! I've been subbed to and followed both channels for years!!!
    Had to make the previous comment just because I've been waiting for these to dudes to collaborate on at least one video.
    Thank you gentlemen.

  • @yogurtfluff1
    @yogurtfluff1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    We may have a Steve singularity, a Steveularity if you will

    • @GewelReal
      @GewelReal 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I feel like I know you

    • @Magusslettewestberg
      @Magusslettewestberg 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Steve big bang?

  • @paxvesania2008
    @paxvesania2008 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Like Gordon said, you, PC gamers will buy Nvidia regardless of the loud yapping online about this and that (paraphrasing here).

  • @ivanstefancic8938
    @ivanstefancic8938 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Thanks Steve... And Steve...

  • @sjewkes1
    @sjewkes1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    NVIDIA whinging about gamers that literally allowed them to get to this point sure is an interesting stance to take, and I hope it bites them where it hurts when AI collapses/gets regulated into oblivion. Thanks Steve, back to you, Steve.

  • @Kapono5150
    @Kapono5150 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I can’t believe I’m about to break my rule on 1000 dollar cap for a GPU.

    • @DevouringKing
      @DevouringKing 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      im still on my 400€ Rule since 20 years

    • @NinetyTres
      @NinetyTres 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@DevouringKing 20 yrs ago 400 would buy a few top end cards

    • @DevouringKing
      @DevouringKing 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@NinetyTres 2006 GTX 8800GTS 640mb but i regret it, it was my most expensive card, but only lasted 1,5 years. since then i was on low budged radeons like 199€ HD4770 in year 2009. HD6870 for 129€ in 2011. RX470 for 199€ in 2016, and then RX6700 for 330€ in 2022.

    • @stuartthurstan
      @stuartthurstan 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Please don't.

    • @haukikannel
      @haukikannel 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      $10000 sounds so much better!
      Jensen will be proud of you! You will be real customers and not some game beggard!
      😂

  • @freedom_fighta
    @freedom_fighta 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    GPU's are really expensive now and we need to upgrade every 3-4 years.
    Unless we want the newest games looking like Minecraft and running at 20 fps we are forced to upgrade.

  • @Kmcornell23
    @Kmcornell23 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Thanks Steve! Back to you Steve!

  • @4ssiduous
    @4ssiduous 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hardware Nexus legends 😆 pointing out speculative greed and worst of capitalism on display in AI profit scramble by dominant market power nvidia as gamers thrown under the bus.

  • @Zombie101
    @Zombie101 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Hagrid is looking good these days

  • @patrickprafke4894
    @patrickprafke4894 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nvidia is becoming the next Apple. Overly charging for their product because the fans will always believe all the marketing hype and every excuse to increase the prices. As long as they are riding the money high, they will continue doing it.

  • @YaNKeeR_
    @YaNKeeR_ 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    First!

  • @electricindigoball1244
    @electricindigoball1244 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If Nvidia wants to pivot 100% to the AI market because all of their silicon sells for that much more there then they are free to do so. AMD and Intel will gladly take over the consumer graphics market for themselves. Of course this will never happen, they need to maintain presence in the consumer space so they have somewhere to sell their products in case the demand for their GPUs dries up in the AI market.

  • @TuxPenguino
    @TuxPenguino 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If you ate making an emotional, or nostalgic purchase, then you are the problem. You didn't do anything to get nvidia or any company to where it is today. You bought into a brand or product due to the grand stretegy to ensure a purchase. As a brand strategist, we know that a completely rational purchase doesn't exist on mass.

  • @matthewsalmon8194
    @matthewsalmon8194 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Asrock do make good boards in fairness..Their mid to high end stuff is pretty competitive

  • @ps3301
    @ps3301 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Gamers are kids who whine and complain and have no money. Nvidia don't want your business.

  • @PaulRoneClarke
    @PaulRoneClarke 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Gamers will get the stuff a year or two later when the process is older and cheaper to make (or they have tons of overstock)
    Just wait to years and catch the tide then

  • @Shelldamage
    @Shelldamage 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very nice-to-see-format!
    My mindset always was, real AI is a software-topic.
    Different CPUs and other compute-units like graphics cards are able to do real AI with the right software.
    But it seems, NVidia is making specific compute-units to do AI...
    I have a real (non-sarcastic) question for both Steve:
    What is the actual AI-Hardware that are NVidia and maybe other companies producing..., what is different in the compute-chips for AI?
    How they are different to rasterization-units and raytracing compute-units in the graphics chip?

    • @aravindpallippara1577
      @aravindpallippara1577 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      3d rendering/display engine kind of devices while sharing a lot of aspects of the heavy parallel computing necessary for AI hardware also has a lot of latency sensitive areas, like pixel fill rate, texture fill rate - dedicated hardware to deal with display out and things like that.

  • @AdamBondAudio
    @AdamBondAudio 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Brilliant! 😂 Am a big fan of both of you, keep up the great work! 😊

  • @gettcouped
    @gettcouped 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Too bad Jensen is now mega rich billionaire. Doubt he has any empathy or self awareness to see what got him where he is today.

  • @NinjaScorpio
    @NinjaScorpio 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is why we love AI to join Steve and Steve in one video. Thank you AI and Hardware AIboxed.

  • @lexzbuddy
    @lexzbuddy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    nVidia seem to moving towards the business sector, a bit like Dell and others did in other sectors years ago.

  • @Taorakis
    @Taorakis 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thanks Steves!

  • @M0HAK0
    @M0HAK0 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Nice HUB and Gamers Nexus in same video. Much respect to both platforms!

  • @AcuraAddicted
    @AcuraAddicted 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Lovely banter, guys! Would be great to see more of that!

  • @draxrdax7321
    @draxrdax7321 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I think Steve is a better presenter and has more technical knowledge than the other guy. Thanks, Steve!

  • @mrshinobigaming8447
    @mrshinobigaming8447 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Legs reveal yay😁

  • @nomad090
    @nomad090 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very cool Steve. Now do this with Linus.

  • @blendrugova2426
    @blendrugova2426 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Guys loved the video, just a quick feedback the audio on Gamers Nexus video sounds a bit clearer and less noise wind. Even though these interviews are rare it would be nice to have clearer voice quality. I know that Gamers Nexus does more outside videos so they are probably more experienced at this.

  • @citizenblue
    @citizenblue 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I should have bought the stock instead of buying my 3090

    • @bananabro980
      @bananabro980 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      THE MORE YOU BUY