I happen to live on the Mtl Grand Prix course so I get to watch this race every year. That was the first time I see a rider just ride away with two laps to go. I will never forget Julian Alaphilippe’s look of exasperation when Poggy took off and no one was pulling through. Love your show!
I drove seven hours to see this race in person. My first race I’ve seen in person and seeing the speed of these guys is incredible. I was on the last climb during the last couple laps. Seeing his speed compared to the group behind was amazing. Just flew past me.
I am from Slovenija and I always attend races he is cycling as a spectator. Luckily I have 10 min to 1 hour drive to see him. Small country. To drive 7 hours that is a real heart desire. You are very cool
I was there as well, close to the finish line around the u turn point. I took some video and they flew away and can't really see who is whom in the videos. I'm luckier than you before I actually live in the region, no long drive is needed. :)
Thank you for the amazing in-depth analysis Chris. I just love these kinds of videos, where you seriously break down the tactics. Honestly, I’ve been waiting for this video from the second the race ended. 😂
Hehehe. We tried to the video on Sunday but Garrett and I ran out of time. That whole east coast time racing makes it hard on us. Then we tried again yesterday and even made a video and edited the video but I didn’t like it once I watched it. So it took three tries to get it right. 😂🤪🦋👊🎥
Yet again Chris, you prove yourself to be the #1 cycling pundit due to the lil nuance details that nobody else bothers to impart, bringing a full circle understanding of tactics to even a hardcore multi decade rider like myself 👍
Can't wait for the "coaching" session for the worlds. I usually just respect the results, similar to the Olympics because it's hard for me to get my head around "country" style tactics... Thanks again to you both 💥👊🦋
Yes, Pogi was very impressive in Montreal. I guess he is the heavy favourite for the world in Switzerland. Just hope he doesn't run away with it. A competitive world championship would be nice. Whether you are coaching or storytelling, I come here for your great analytics.👍👍
I predict that this years world championship will be one of the best of all time. Hopefully all the top riders are 100% fit, it will be a cracker of a race.
Thanks, Chris, and with Canada getting two big one-day races at this time of year, why not us here in the States, too? It seems super lame that we are ignored by the Euro scene.
USA races come and go... "Coors International Bicycling Class" / "Tour Dupont" / "Tour of California" ... problem is "when"? And with our current political dilemmas, the "world" of cycling isn't excited to spend time or money supporting that.
It’s sad to see how quickly the Tour of California dropped off. After getting World Tour status and moving to May it was starting to attract bigger riders than the Giro.
Similar issue with ski racing. Mostly Europeans, huge $$$. TOC was great when the weather cooperated. Maybe if they'd just leave the Sierras off the route . Snow cancelled more than one stage up there. Colorado fizzled, too. What happened there?
Appreciate your in depth coverage and analysis so very much, I’ve been getting back into cycling and I’ve learned so much from this channel. Keep up the incredible content, cheers bud
Highly detailed analysis of UAE and Tadej Pogacar’s progression in tactical efficiency. I still think with a healthy Sepp Kuss, Michael Jorgensen, Wout van Aert and especially Jonas Vingegaard Jumbo can give UAE a challenge in 2025. UAE is seriously dominant this year though. It’s amazing what a few hundred million Arab petrol dollars can do, right Man City?
I'm guessing that they WILL try and ride together, with the help of their teammates, at least into the final~where they will then go head-to-head, and 'the best man win!' (i.e. Tadej!)😅
they'll ride for themselves, Tadej will ideally need a leadout on a climb to escape, I'd be buying my teammates gifts, doing what ever it took to get them on my side. Feel Primoz will save himself until the end.
@ixample there is 1 UAE teammate with Tadej - Novak.. but we'll have to wait for Chris.. I think Primos goes for The TT and Tadej the Roadrace... just thinking out loud😅
Some notable differences for the World's that didn't come up in the analysis: Tadej will not be racing with UAE; instead, he'll be racing with his fellow Slovenians: Roglic, Mahoric, Tratnic, Mexgec, Govekar, and Novak. Of these, Novak is the only UAE teammate. In addition, they'll be racing without radios. So, the team will need to plan the various contingencies in advance, including how the leadership split works between Tadej and Primoz. During the race, they won't be able to coordinate via radio if they are separated and won't get input from the team director. For an example of how messy that can be, look at what happened in 2021 when the Belgian team, racing on home ground with WVA and Remco supported by a stellar group of classics riders, lost to Alaphilippe.
I learned a ton from you about race tactics even when you were racing. l remember listening to you break down what went down during the course of the race, and I not only found it to be fascinating but highly instructional. Thanks for all you do.
@@ChrisHornerCycling No, it's me that should be thanking you. If not for you I would never have thought about starting my own channel. I was a huge fan towards the end of your racing career not simply because you were a great racer but because you also had the passion to enlighten race fans about how beautiful road racing was with its tactics, personalities and nuances. Thanks again, continued success with "The Butterfly Effect".🐺🚴♂
I started having withdrawals waiting for your video! Thanks Chris and Garret - exceptional as always. How will the fact the teams at the world champs are from different trade teams affect their tactics? Who will be making these decisions?
Calories are so important when racing. My first amateur race was lack of power on my second I had enough power but I bonked right before the ultimate climb.. At least I met Matej Mohorič and he said it happens to everyone 😅 Anyways yeah crazy that pros forget about this as well...
fell in love with cycling in 80s. Seen a lot of talent. remco reminds me of Hinault hes a ball of muscle so strong. Tadej is best Ive seen though. Seems like punch of contador, style of gilbert, instincts of Sagan, and an engine plus desire to win everything I havent seen so id guess similar to Merckx. Coppi is my favorite mainly because hes an enigma and such an outrageous talent so ahead of his time with anquetil and merckx winning one days , Gts, hour record and ITTS. Tadej is that type of generational talent since he beat porte up Mt baldy in amgen at 19 and then podium at vuelta. Hes 25 athletes usually peak 27-32 still having muscle dexterity but develop cerebral advantages from experience. Hes always ridden like a demon but now hes learning and using his team I hope Roglic either marks Remo or works exclusively for Tadej he has perfect team for this both Novak and Mohoric were flying in montreal SLovenia deserves a rainbow for all the entertainment they have given us. Thanks for all the insight always insightful
Traditional tactics don't apply to Tadej Pogacar. He is a once in a generation rider and if he can keep up these performances for the next 5 years will surpass Eddy Merckx😂
I would say Pogi has got to be tied if we were to take 4 seasons and compared four of Merckx’s. Eddy probably has a few more flats wins where I can’t remember Pogi having any purely flat road wins. 🤔🦋👊💪
At GP Montreal, Matteo Jorgenson became the latest in an increasing number of riders who "went too close to the sun and got burned." Just ask Skjelmose and BOC!
(And... 😂 ) The "city lap" looks similar to the course I watched in the early 2000s: it is 26.9km long, or >16 miles. (Can't remember if that was a "GP Zurich"? Probably))... if nobody darts ahead on the 2nd to last lap, Pogacar will most likely use the first sharp ascent to "separate the chaff" and reduce his dark horse rivals. That steep short section has a relatively steep short descent, followed by the last, longer climb... if he distanced the 5th through 20th strongest rivals in that first climb, then we presume he can challenge Primoz & Evenepoel to a manno a manno in the last 15k.... Going to be exotic, if the weather is fine. 🎉❤🎉
but do guys from same country go against each other in the worlds or they come up with gentleman's agreement on who the top dog is before the race and then the other just drops out? asking this because we were robbed of primoz vs tadej for years now since the first 2019 vuelta, 2020 tour and that one basque country.... all others were primoz falling or avoiding each other.
Correct the Zürich Metzgete... Men did I love that race ❣It was one of the hardest races on the calendar together with Lombardy and Liege-Bastogne-Liege.
I have been thru some bad weather back in the day when it was a big one day race. Bad weather makes for some good racing viewing so long as it’s not crazy bad. 😬🤞🦋👊🥶
We're in the peak Tadej phase. My only gripe with UAE is that Almeida and Ayuso wear thenselves out going for GC or white jerseys instead of staying focused like Mika and Yates. 🛋️🦋
What is more important of having the world champ for your country or your team? I can see a situation in team Slovenia, that Tratnik( Bora next year) will work for Roglic while Domen Novak will work for Tadej. 🤔
What if Primoz gets himself into a break mid way into the Zurich race, ahead of Pog? Will Pog chase him down or will he let Primoz go as race etiquette dictates.
Videos to beat Pogačar... Now that's something! In my unprofessional opinion that will be needing tactics that don't restrict or even purely prefer teampolitics... Only the captains can decide to work togehther, with the risk of loosing and displeasing the sponsors... As far as i can see Pogačar will be greater than Merkx. Will Horner be followed? And who will get the glory and who will be 《foollowed 》? But anyways, a channel like is ambitious and denuckelheadisationing.
Honestly I don't get it. When Pogacar is losing to Vingegaard it's always the calorie issue. Don't get me wrong that's possible but I don't buy it. Vingegaard is top notch rider he is 1st page rider so he has better days than Pogacar no doubt about it. Somehow its always looks like Pogi loosing-its his fault you never considering others riders having better legs. Good video 👍
Certainly Jonas and Jumbo had pressure put on Pogi for many of those races that Pogi lost or maybe better/more correct to say that Jonas won. That pressure makes Pogi (all riders for that matter) forget some important steps that every rider has to do to be good during a race, such as eating, not going on ridiculous attacks, and leaving your teammates behind that could still be there to help you. So when I am saying that Pogi messed up during any of those races I am not saying he did not have some help from Jonas to make that happen. I’m just saying that Pogi still had the legs to win on those days especially when we are discussing the ’22 & ‘23 T’sdF but Pogi and his team UAE played a big part in their losing. Now the one race that Jonas 100% just flat out beat Pogi was stage 16 itt of the ‘23 TdF. Jonas was incredible there, probably the best we have ever seen from him against Pogi. If Jonas was to repeat that form then I would never say Jonas needed Pogi to mess up in order for Jonas to win. But when we see Pogi not just getting second to Jonas but also losing 3,4,5, and 6th place to other riders. Well, it’s clear UAE and Pogi messed up some where along the line during those races. I do believe Jonas is better tactically than Pogi and is more consistent with his form day to day, so it’s clear that Jonas pays attention to the small details at every race he does and doesn’t get over excited. 🤔🦋👊💪
(Unfortunately, IMO) I think Alaphilippe still has a good chance despite the higher level competition. Tadej's power might not be decisive on this climb, Julian can descend AND sprint pretty well, and overall, he's craftier.
I wouldn’t say pogacar bonked on stage 11 of the Tour de France I think he saw jonas gaining on him waited up to hit him again but I think that’s just a failed tactic
Pog and Rog team up for the WC. So it's either disaster or dominator. I'd love to see Rogla wins something. But .. with Pog, he is going to be hard to beat.
Not if Roglic does make the first move...... Pogacar can impossibly ride behind his own fellow countrymen, they would kill him the day he returns to Slovenia where Roglic is still more popular. I can't wait.......
I have to say both so it gives time for you to see the picture that gets put up. Other wise the picture is worthless because it would just flash and disappear. Also when I say both names my mind is goes on autopilot which allows me to arrange the next story to smoothly add it into the video. 😉🦋👊🎥
That is your opinion and not proven yet If he is into doping what harm does it bring to you? That is his story not yours Chill and enjoy what these guys are bringing
2022 tdf ok, Tadej could won it, but Jonas was super strong. 2023 Jonas was 7 minutes ahead and had that historical TT, Tadej attacked him so many times and could never make more than 20 secs, and if i remember correclty on stage 5 Jonas gave him 1 min....2023 Jonas was definitly stronger. Very disrespectful to disscredit Jonas like that... Sorry for bad english
His strategy to wait for his biggest rival to suffer a catastrophic injury in the spring was genius for finally reclaiming the top spot on the podium at the Tour de France. Chapeau, Tadej! Well done!
If Jonas would not had crashed and if Jonas would had been the team leader in 2021 and if Jumbo would not made stupid tactics in the Vuelta 2023, Jonas would now had 5 Grand Tour wins and Tadej would had two. This makes the same nonsense sense likes Chris analyse how many wins Tadej would had. Same with his analyse, that everytime when Tadej is distanced, he buncked. Every other rider who get distanced by Tadej is not buncked. Makes no sense. Its always black and white, or who he loves more. This channel gets worse and worse if it comes to his rides he loves....
Honestly, as a viewer, its getting old watching the race for 2nd place. Group 2 syndrome in GP Montreal led me to stop watching with 10k to go. Either the others need to step it up, or a new talent is desperately needed to keep interest in some of these races.
Fascinating… we’re watching history unfold. Could watch Tadje do his thing and win for years to come and never get tired of it. To each their own though, of course!
Certainly was ridiculous riding from Visma, Trek, Q/S, EF, IP/T, Bora, and two other teams. But I still watched Pogi finish and appreciated what he was doing. I would have bet money that the peloton could have kept Pogi within ten seconds until the last lap climb started. That would have been good viewing. Why big teams race for second is unbelievable. 🤔😳🦋🥲💪🔥🇸🇮
I want to know Chris Horner opinion about GCN and euro sport calling POG for a triple crown because seems like Vuelta now is Not a big price as world championship ... my non educated history tells me triple crown is win the 3 in one year (or kinda) Giro-tour-vuelta BUT. is /or can POG can be called a triple crown winner if he wins the Worlds?
The Butterfly Effect is the most comprehensive and informative cycling racing channel on TH-cam. Hands down. Thanks Chris.
I happen to live on the Mtl Grand Prix course so I get to watch this race every year. That was the first time I see a rider just ride away with two laps to go. I will never forget Julian Alaphilippe’s look of exasperation when Poggy took off and no one was pulling through. Love your show!
I drove seven hours to see this race in person. My first race I’ve seen in person and seeing the speed of these guys is incredible. I was on the last climb during the last couple laps. Seeing his speed compared to the group behind was amazing. Just flew past me.
Lucky you😊😊😊
It is pretty cool seeing it live. 👊🦋
I am from Slovenija and I always attend races he is cycling as a spectator. Luckily I have 10 min to 1 hour drive to see him. Small country. To drive 7 hours that is a real heart desire. You are very cool
I was there as well, close to the finish line around the u turn point. I took some video and they flew away and can't really see who is whom in the videos. I'm luckier than you before I actually live in the region, no long drive is needed. :)
because, not before
The province of Quebec was thrilled to host Tadej Pogacar's mini training camp for the world championship last weekend.
Canadians live their bike racing. 🇨🇦🦋👊
Thanks Chris. Cycling is so much fun to watch. Hearing you analyze it takes the pleasure to another level.
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Thank you for the amazing in-depth analysis Chris. I just love these kinds of videos, where you seriously break down the tactics. Honestly, I’ve been waiting for this video from the second the race ended. 😂
Hehehe. We tried to the video on Sunday but Garrett and I ran out of time. That whole east coast time racing makes it hard on us. Then we tried again yesterday and even made a video and edited the video but I didn’t like it once I watched it. So it took three tries to get it right. 😂🤪🦋👊🎥
A new category~ 'Extreme Knuckleheads?!?'🤪
LOVE it, Chris!!!👊🔥
Will we be seeing 'HC knuckleheadism' at some stage soon???🤣
@@willavinou1507 And maybe Beyond Solerism? 😀
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Yet again Chris, you prove yourself to be the #1 cycling pundit due to the lil nuance details that nobody else bothers to impart, bringing a full circle understanding of tactics to even a hardcore multi decade rider like myself 👍
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Tadej can win any race, he that good
Yo, he be good.
Except the flats. Pogi has to go get one of those to complete the resume. 😂🦋👊🤞
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@@JosesAmazingWorlds he can win it if he puts on a couple of kgs
@@barneystinsom that would be interesting
Thank you for all your time and work on the show Chris and Garrett
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Lets get this straight , YOU ARE A COACHING CHANNEL .
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Pogi was epic in Montreal.
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Can't wait for the "coaching" session for the worlds. I usually just respect the results, similar to the Olympics because it's hard for me to get my head around "country" style tactics... Thanks again to you both 💥👊🦋
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Yes, Pogi was very impressive in Montreal. I guess he is the heavy favourite for the world in Switzerland. Just hope he doesn't run away with it. A competitive world championship would be nice.
Whether you are coaching or storytelling, I come here for your great analytics.👍👍
We got to hope that MVDP and Remco are at their best. 👊🦋💪🔥
I predict that this years world championship will be one of the best of all time.
Hopefully all the top riders are 100% fit, it will be a cracker of a race.
Tadej NEEDS that Rainbow jersey!
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Pogi looked really good for the first race in 2 days 😉
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Thanks sir Chris horner
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Thanks, Chris, and with Canada getting two big one-day races at this time of year, why not us here in the States, too? It seems super lame that we are ignored by the Euro scene.
USA races come and go... "Coors International Bicycling Class" / "Tour Dupont" / "Tour of California" ... problem is "when"? And with our current political dilemmas, the "world" of cycling isn't excited to spend time or money supporting that.
It’s sad to see how quickly the Tour of California dropped off. After getting World Tour status and moving to May it was starting to attract bigger riders than the Giro.
Similar issue with ski racing. Mostly Europeans, huge $$$.
TOC was great when the weather cooperated. Maybe if they'd just leave the Sierras off the route . Snow cancelled more than one stage up there. Colorado fizzled, too. What happened there?
there was tour of cali (amazing race) but lately nothing in the US. UCI should come to US but I imagine it is dineros.
@@rockhopper01 so true.... just look who won last 2 tour of calis: pogacar and bernal... plus you had s-works dudes like alaphillipe and sagan
Was wondering where you “recap” was 😂🎉
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Appreciate your in depth coverage and analysis so very much, I’ve been getting back into cycling and I’ve learned so much from this channel. Keep up the incredible content, cheers bud
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Grande Tadej!!
Taking a big risk here and predicting Tadej to win Worlds.
Yes you are. 😂🦋👊💪🤞
Highly detailed analysis of UAE and Tadej Pogacar’s progression in tactical efficiency. I still think with a healthy Sepp Kuss, Michael Jorgensen, Wout van Aert and especially Jonas Vingegaard Jumbo can give UAE a challenge in 2025. UAE is seriously dominant this year though. It’s amazing what a few hundred million Arab petrol dollars can do, right Man City?
Money helps. 😉🦋👊
cool as ever Chris...thanks for this
Chris, What will be the dynamic between Primoz and Tadej at the worlds? Because they both won't ride for each other. Could be a big problem.
I'm guessing that they WILL try and ride together, with the help of their teammates, at least into the final~where they will then go head-to-head, and 'the best man win!' (i.e. Tadej!)😅
That video is coming. 👊🦋
they'll ride for themselves, Tadej will ideally need a leadout on a climb to escape, I'd be buying my teammates gifts, doing what ever it took to get them on my side. Feel Primoz will save himself until the end.
@ixample there is 1 UAE teammate with Tadej - Novak.. but we'll have to wait for Chris.. I think Primos goes for The TT and Tadej the Roadrace... just thinking out loud😅
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THESE VIDEOS ARE TOO GOOD 🙌
thanks again you are the best
Thank Sir Chris Horner !
Your analysis is a delight!
We look forward to your thoughts on the UCI World Championship.
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Some notable differences for the World's that didn't come up in the analysis:
Tadej will not be racing with UAE; instead, he'll be racing with his fellow Slovenians: Roglic, Mahoric, Tratnic, Mexgec, Govekar, and Novak. Of these, Novak is the only UAE teammate. In addition, they'll be racing without radios. So, the team will need to plan the various contingencies in advance, including how the leadership split works between Tadej and Primoz. During the race, they won't be able to coordinate via radio if they are separated and won't get input from the team director.
For an example of how messy that can be, look at what happened in 2021 when the Belgian team, racing on home ground with WVA and Remco supported by a stellar group of classics riders, lost to Alaphilippe.
That 2021 worlds was amazing from 175k all the way to the finish. One of the best ever. 🦋👊
Excellent analysis!
Was Julian Alaphilippe and his team any good? It was strange seeing most teams do nothing but watch UAE at the front.
Chris, never underestimate the ability of Bob Roll to mispronounce a rider’s name.. POE-JAH-CAR !!!
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I learned a ton from you about race tactics even when you were racing. l remember listening to you break down what went down during the course of the race, and I not only found it to be fascinating but highly instructional. Thanks for all you do.
Happy to hear you are enjoying the videos Jesse 👊🦋
@@ChrisHornerCycling No, it's me that should be thanking you. If not for you I would never have thought about starting my own channel. I was a huge fan towards the end of your racing career not simply because you were a great racer but because you also had the passion to enlighten race fans about how beautiful road racing was with its tactics, personalities and nuances. Thanks again, continued success with "The Butterfly Effect".🐺🚴♂
I started having withdrawals waiting for your video! Thanks Chris and Garret - exceptional as always. How will the fact the teams at the world champs are from different trade teams affect their tactics? Who will be making these decisions?
Chris, listening to you really helps me enjoy and get a lot more out of my time on the chesterfield!😃
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Calories are so important when racing. My first amateur race was lack of power on my second I had enough power but I bonked right before the ultimate climb.. At least I met Matej Mohorič and he said it happens to everyone 😅
Anyways yeah crazy that pros forget about this as well...
Yep. All the time really. 🤪🦋👊🥤🍫
fell in love with cycling in 80s. Seen a lot of talent. remco reminds me of Hinault hes a ball of muscle so strong. Tadej is best Ive seen though. Seems like punch of contador, style of gilbert, instincts of Sagan, and an engine plus desire to win everything I havent seen so id guess similar to Merckx. Coppi is my favorite mainly because hes an enigma and such an outrageous talent so ahead of his time with anquetil and merckx winning one days , Gts, hour record and ITTS. Tadej is that type of generational talent since he beat porte up Mt baldy in amgen at 19 and then podium at vuelta.
Hes 25 athletes usually peak 27-32 still having muscle dexterity but develop cerebral advantages from experience. Hes always ridden like a demon but now hes learning and using his team I hope Roglic either marks Remo or works exclusively for Tadej he has perfect team for this both Novak and Mohoric were flying in montreal SLovenia deserves a rainbow for all the entertainment they have given us. Thanks for all the insight always insightful
Traditional tactics don't apply to Tadej Pogacar. He is a once in a generation rider and if he can keep up these performances for the next 5 years will surpass Eddy Merckx😂
I would say Pogi has got to be tied if we were to take 4 seasons and compared four of Merckx’s. Eddy probably has a few more flats wins where I can’t remember Pogi having any purely flat road wins. 🤔🦋👊💪
If other riders join and relay to catch him, he wouldnt win só many classics
Looking forward to the 'How to beat Pogacar' video!
Train harder, hope it's enough. Usually isn't...
@@WattsOnTheUp Which brings us to tactics....
At GP Montreal, Matteo Jorgenson became the latest in an increasing number of riders who "went too close to the sun and got burned." Just ask Skjelmose and BOC!
Pog didnt want to sprint with de lie at quebec
Between Pog, Mathieu and the kid, it will be a fantastic race, can’t wait.
Yeah, and this kid is just a year younger than Pogi 😁
@@me4allu703 Your point being?
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The "city lap" looks similar to the course I watched in the early 2000s: it is 26.9km long, or >16 miles.
(Can't remember if that was a "GP Zurich"? Probably))... if nobody darts ahead on the 2nd to last lap, Pogacar will most likely use the first sharp ascent to "separate the chaff" and reduce his dark horse rivals. That steep short section has a relatively steep short descent, followed by the last, longer climb... if he distanced the 5th through 20th strongest rivals in that first climb, then we presume he can challenge Primoz & Evenepoel to a manno a manno in the last 15k....
Going to be exotic, if the weather is fine.
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but do guys from same country go against each other in the worlds or they come up with gentleman's agreement on who the top dog is before the race and then the other just drops out? asking this because we were robbed of primoz vs tadej for years now since the first 2019 vuelta, 2020 tour and that one basque country.... all others were primoz falling or avoiding each other.
Correct the Zürich Metzgete... Men did I love that race ❣It was one of the hardest races on the calendar together with Lombardy and Liege-Bastogne-Liege.
I have been thru some bad weather back in the day when it was a big one day race. Bad weather makes for some good racing viewing so long as it’s not crazy bad. 😬🤞🦋👊🥶
We're in the peak Tadej phase. My only gripe with UAE is that Almeida and Ayuso wear thenselves out going for GC or white jerseys instead of staying focused like Mika and Yates. 🛋️🦋
Yep. Agreed 😬🦋👍
By far the best year of Pogadcar. The dutch will win the world championship I'm afraid. Pogadcar was the best by far this year, last year vinegard
Another good show Chris. Will we see you back on Peacock, since Phil Liggot, Great Commentator, has retired??
Nope. 🦋👍👊
That's a shame!! Enjoy your commentating and insights much more than TGV and B.Brookwalter. You and Bob Roll would make a good team, I believe!!
"I've made a whole channel out of Knuckleheads "😂
Great breakdown Chris
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What is more important of having the world champ for your country or your team? I can see a situation in team Slovenia, that Tratnik( Bora next year) will work for Roglic while Domen Novak will work for Tadej. 🤔
"Coach" Chris, how about an _INEOS Rebuild_ video?
Cheers to Coach Horner, probably showed me every way it's possible to fall on a descent and why
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What if Primoz gets himself into a break mid way into the Zurich race, ahead of Pog? Will Pog chase him down or will he let Primoz go as race etiquette dictates.
Pogi will only follow. Roglic may chase Pogi down though if it’s the other way around if he treats Pogi like sepp. 🤪🦋👊
You think Ayuso is going to last at UAE?
Noo he again messed up in Quebec
Think Del Toro is a better investment for the future
He should've done the Vuelta
What is his hemoglobin level, is he clean ? Those where the days when we admire Lance too..
Videos to beat Pogačar... Now that's something! In my unprofessional opinion that will be needing tactics that don't restrict or even purely prefer teampolitics... Only the captains can decide to work togehther, with the risk of loosing and displeasing the sponsors... As far as i can see Pogačar will be greater than Merkx. Will Horner be followed? And who will get the glory and who will be 《foollowed 》? But anyways, a channel like is ambitious and denuckelheadisationing.
Thanks Chris for the Amazing analysis!!! You are the Tony Romo of cycling commentary
Tony Romo sucks, Horner doesn’t
Romo sucks
@@valiantabello the cowboys suck not Romo lol. But as a commentator he is really good
@@stevenmeyer9674 the cowboys suck not Romo. But as a commentator he is good
@@Anothaday676 he has become a real bore. All he’s got is cliches and a horrible speaking voice
He also changed trainers.
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New stage lighting?
Yes. We have been playing around with stage a bit lately. 🦋👊🏆🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🔦
@@ChrisHornerCycling Looks shiny😎👍
Perhaps Lupine Lights 😉
Honestly I don't get it. When Pogacar is losing to Vingegaard it's always the calorie issue. Don't get me wrong that's possible but I don't buy it. Vingegaard is top notch rider he is 1st page rider so he has better days than Pogacar no doubt about it. Somehow its always looks like Pogi loosing-its his fault you never considering others riders having better legs. Good video 👍
Certainly Jonas and Jumbo had pressure put on Pogi for many of those races that Pogi lost or maybe better/more correct to say that Jonas won. That pressure makes Pogi (all riders for that matter) forget some important steps that every rider has to do to be good during a race, such as eating, not going on ridiculous attacks, and leaving your teammates behind that could still be there to help you. So when I am saying that Pogi messed up during any of those races I am not saying he did not have some help from Jonas to make that happen. I’m just saying that Pogi still had the legs to win on those days especially when we are discussing the ’22 & ‘23 T’sdF but Pogi and his team UAE played a big part in their losing. Now the one race that Jonas 100% just flat out beat Pogi was stage 16 itt of the ‘23 TdF. Jonas was incredible there, probably the best we have ever seen from him against Pogi. If Jonas was to repeat that form then I would never say Jonas needed Pogi to mess up in order for Jonas to win. But when we see Pogi not just getting second to Jonas but also losing 3,4,5, and 6th place to other riders. Well, it’s clear UAE and Pogi messed up some where along the line during those races. I do believe Jonas is better tactically than Pogi and is more consistent with his form day to day, so it’s clear that Jonas pays attention to the small details at every race he does and doesn’t get over excited. 🤔🦋👊💪
(Unfortunately, IMO) I think Alaphilippe still has a good chance despite the higher level competition. Tadej's power might not be decisive on this climb, Julian can descend AND sprint pretty well, and overall, he's craftier.
Are you serious? Even his compatriot Hinault thinks that Allaphillipe has no chance against Pogačar
@@me4allu703 I hope you're right...
Zakaj je zašvicu se tko ful?
If things work in Tadej's favor, at which point of which lap will he jump?
(Chris or anyone? Two laps to go?)
Possibly MVDP decides that. 🤔🦋💪👊
Apologize for calling one of your race analysis videos as a recap. My bad 👎 😅
They’re the only recaps I watch 😂
You were a knucklehead for 1 day 🤣
@@musclelessfitness2045🦋 👊 🤡
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is worlds gonna be on max?
I wouldn’t say pogacar bonked on stage 11 of the Tour de France I think he saw jonas gaining on him waited up to hit him again but I think that’s just a failed tactic
Pog and Rog team up for the WC. So it's either disaster or dominator. I'd love to see Rogla wins something. But .. with Pog, he is going to be hard to beat.
Not if Roglic does make the first move...... Pogacar can impossibly ride behind his own fellow countrymen, they would kill him the day he returns to Slovenia where Roglic is still more popular.
I can't wait.......
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@@swissbiggy Nope, Tadej is by far more popular in Slovenia these days.
@@sonckad By you you mean. But that's okay ✌️👍
What kilometer is he going to breakaway for a solo victory
I betting MVDP decides that. 😂👊🦋🔥
We know his full name. Just say Tadej.
I have to say both so it gives time for you to see the picture that gets put up. Other wise the picture is worthless because it would just flash and disappear. Also when I say both names my mind is goes on autopilot which allows me to arrange the next story to smoothly add it into the video. 😉🦋👊🎥
Pog, Vingegaard and a couple of other riders are unbelievable cyclists. So far above the rest of the peleton I gotta question their validity.😢
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They are operating as a team when tadej is Racing. When he is not they are all over the place and tatics are horrible
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Huhummmm🚴
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Welcome to the only place in the world 🌎 where re-cap is a four letter word.
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Worlds:
1) van der Poel
2) Pogi
3) Mauro Schmid
Can’t spell Tadej Pogacar without DOPE…
That is your opinion and not proven yet If he is into doping what harm does it bring to you? That is his story not yours Chill and enjoy what these guys are bringing
That might be true for Jonas and Remco as well.. but no pos tests for any of them..
Kindergard without dope and wheelsucking.😂
2022 tdf ok, Tadej could won it, but Jonas was super strong.
2023 Jonas was 7 minutes ahead and had that historical TT, Tadej attacked him so many times and could never make more than 20 secs, and if i remember correclty on stage 5 Jonas gave him 1 min....2023 Jonas was definitly stronger.
Very disrespectful to disscredit Jonas like that...
Sorry for bad english
His strategy to wait for his biggest rival to suffer a catastrophic injury in the spring was genius for finally reclaiming the top spot on the podium at the Tour de France. Chapeau, Tadej! Well done!
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Pogi is on juice 💉💉
For that sport to be attractive, we need Pogacar to start each race with an handicap. Otherwise, it's not funny.
If Jonas would not had crashed and if Jonas would had been the team leader in 2021 and if Jumbo would not made stupid tactics in the Vuelta 2023, Jonas would now had 5 Grand Tour wins and Tadej would had two. This makes the same nonsense sense likes Chris analyse how many wins Tadej would had. Same with his analyse, that everytime when Tadej is distanced, he buncked. Every other rider who get distanced by Tadej is not buncked. Makes no sense. Its always black and white, or who he loves more. This channel gets worse and worse if it comes to his rides he loves....
Lets all hold hands together and pray to Primoz Roglic, our God. May the world know Roglification during this years world championship race.
Kaj je s tabo? Si bolan?😮
Honestly, as a viewer, its getting old watching the race for 2nd place. Group 2 syndrome in GP Montreal led me to stop watching with 10k to go. Either the others need to step it up, or a new talent is desperately needed to keep interest in some of these races.
I get it, but don't take it for granted. Life happens, problems come up, new blood. This too shall pass. Who'll it be?
Fascinating… we’re watching history unfold. Could watch Tadje do his thing and win for years to come and never get tired of it. To each their own though, of course!
Certainly was ridiculous riding from Visma, Trek, Q/S, EF, IP/T, Bora, and two other teams. But I still watched Pogi finish and appreciated what he was doing. I would have bet money that the peloton could have kept Pogi within ten seconds until the last lap climb started. That would have been good viewing. Why big teams race for second is unbelievable. 🤔😳🦋🥲💪🔥🇸🇮
Probably the best races happened when he did manage to lose: Milano-San Remo, 1st stage of the Giro, stage 7 TT and stage 11 of Tour.
@@recrevs963And UAE bought Narvaez - the punishment for beating their golden boy. 😂😂😂
His doctor is a genius
blablabla… everyone in the peleton has a great doctor just accept that hes the goat😊
Everyone is doping
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Let’s hope we are past that. 🤞🦋🤞
His wins are too dominant. He must be doping.
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Do you feel the same about Jonas's ITT win in last years TdF?
sprint finish i think , so , good luck to poggy . many riders for the rainbow ! not uae in this race ; only nation team ! .remco !!!? njoylife
Yeah a sprint finish after a race with 4500 meters of elevation... Sure kiddo... 🙄🤭
@@swissbiggy most race finsh in a sprint even if there is 2 riders they sprint to win!
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I want to know Chris Horner opinion about GCN and euro sport calling POG for a triple crown because seems like Vuelta now is Not a big price as world championship ... my non educated history tells me triple crown is win the 3 in one year (or kinda) Giro-tour-vuelta BUT. is /or can POG can be called a triple crown winner if he wins the Worlds?