Insanity. All I can think about is his mom texting him, “K I can :)” completely unaware that her son is plotting her murder and her husband is already dead. Gives me chills.
This is exactly how I would have responded. Even if I was tired from a long day at work or the grocery store was out of the way. The thought that my son would be at home plotting my death is just unfathomable. Poor woman 😢
@@msangie101183 (((hugs))) Me too. Mine are 16 and 12 now and they’re still my babies. I do joke with them though and say - Hey, if you flunk out of college and feel some way about it, please write me a letter or something. Don’t hit me over the head with a frying pan or anything in my kitchen. We have a weird sense of humor like that ;)
During the testimony hearing his ex start crying anrd her interrogation around the case when she she mentions theyd all play mario cart and just the little detail she always made the yoshi sound, made me sad.
The older I get, the more and more these types of stories bother me. I couldn’t fathom taking advantage of my parent’s trust like that. Just seeing the mothers text “k I can :)” breaks my heart. I imagine all the times my own mother has texted me and gone out of her way to pick something up after work… even thinking about using that against her in such an evil way hurts my soul.
this was one of the things that got me the most too. as a mother myself and someone who ADORES their own mother, i can’t even imagine. i really really feel for her and Bart. this was devastating.
I know it hurts me, too, especially because my mom is named Christa, and I often ask her things. Like "Hey can you pick me up a soda?" So it felt kind of personal and made me feel really sad.
I’m always bewildered by people who think that the best way to avoid being caught in a lie is to kill the people they’ve lied to. They don’t want to be exposed as liars but potentially being exposed as murderers is somehow a preferable outcome.
The way his mom said “K I can :)” after he asked her for something without even saying (please/if you can) just says so much about how kind his mother was . And the dad didn’t even confront him he wanted him to come clean 💔 they were good people
It seems like they saw all of the signs, but didn't want to believe that Chandler was capable of the things he was doing. The way he said, "Pick up soda on your way home" says a lot about their relationship. He used and abused her and she coddled him. It's just totally sick that he robbed his own parents of their lives. 💔💔
@@VioletJoy What I’m wondering about (not to vilify that two people lost their lives) is the money? Did it exist? If it did, was this one of the motivations for killing them? Have the money “disappear” along with his parents?
@@Oregun44It seems like it, but the difference (I’m just playing devils advocate) is when if he had a job in real life when he goes to his job, almost all of things are out of your control and I mean you have a boss telling you what to do, etc. But, if you choose to create a life that is a lie, you’re are in the driver’s seat the whole time, yes you are creating this job because you have to jump through hoops for your parents, but you’re in control and for people that have these kind of personality disorders, control is very important.
I think the scariest part of this story is that Chandler was otherwise a completely normal human being and (up until his web of lies began unraveling) never gave anyone any reason to believe that he was mentally ill.
Not mentally ill just plain evil.And continuing to appeal his sentence instead of just taking the punishment that he deserves,like a damn man.His appeals are for nothing,they will be rejected.
How is this mental illness? It sounds more like psychopathic behavior. ( not certain if that diagnosis even fits the mental illness categories). It is intriguing to me that a person can be born with this tendency. Genetics? Missing chromosome? . His parents sound as if they did all the right things and literally had no control over his outcomes. Proves having children is a crapshoot...no disrespect...
What’s also really sad about this is how his dad still had enough faith in him to think he’d simply come clean. He probably had absolutely no idea that his son was capable of this.
His son was obviously all messed up in the head (normal people don't do this). He should've talked to him directly but who knows how that would've ended just as well. Stupid guy, he should/ve came clean and rebuild his life, now its far to late...
One thing sticks out... Why would Bart make real appointments with actual counselors? Why wouldn't he just tell Chandler that he had, and then depending on Chandler's response say, "I know everything..." Why would he drag Chandler to a meeting just to expose him when it wasn't really necessary? If Chandler denied it, he could always go back and get proof. Weird.
Imagine being the poor brother, Mitchell. Lost everyone all at once. Heartbreaking doesn’t even come close to covering how that must feel for Mitchell.
My goodness, I didn't even think of that till I read your comment. I was too floored by the despicable actions of this incredible coward. Holy shit, both of your parents die on the same day at the hands of a brother you realize you never really knew. I hope he has close extended family.
Imagine being Catherine ( Cat) , one day she found out her “ hubby” was a complete fraud, killer and pathological liar. Everything he was telling her in past 2 years was completely fabricated by “ChazzleDazzle” - Chandler’s name on social media apps. 🤦🏼🤦🏼🤦🏼
I know of a family that I knew personally where the brother and the sister murdered their parents and the poor middle sister lost her whole family in one foul swoop.
@@giakolou2876 did you not watch the video before commenting? He just fell accidentally and faked the whole huge concussion and paralysis thing. And that happened way after he had already lied about going to college and having an amazing job. Now that I think about it, he's so good at manipulating people he even made you believe he's not a monster.
he cut up his mum and dad in to pieces and tried to burn them, then he failed and then dumped the parts randomly everywhere, its just non imaginable. absolute demon.
Unfathomable. His parents obviously would have been mad, but based on everything else, I'm sure they'd forgive Chandler and get him on the right path. How could you kill and cut up your parents? I couldn't do that to an animal.
Just your usual garden variety psychopath coming into his own when his lies no longer are effective. Without any concern in the world, he resorts to silencing the only people that loved him, that have exposed his true colors behind his “Mask of sanity.”
I remember hearing this story a while back. I was halfway in when things started to sound familiar, and then I knew exactly how it ended. I think you did a really great job portraying this story. It was a fresh take, and definitely had me going.
yeah and these days (or at least at every school I've gone to) they won't just hand that information out to you. They will make you verify your identity, you can't just ask for transcripts and then get them
I feel like people don’t mention this enough when covering this case, the poor guy lost his parents and his brother (mentally/emotionally) all at once. So awful. I hope he’s got a good support system
@@ellybean5868 Seriously. I can't imagine how he could even begin to process such a horrible thing. All we can do is pray for him and his remaining family members. 💔🙏🏽🕊️
@@gwendolyn2442 I can't help but wonder if anyone, friends or family, had an inkling that this kid was not quite "right." It's quite scary to think that someone could hide that kind of personality in such a close knit family. I pray that his brother gets the long term support that he will surely need after being orphaned by his own sibling.
As a true crime connoisseur, I recognized this story immediately, but it was so interesting how you were sharing it from Chandler’s false perspective that I kept watching! Very creative story-telling, well done.
Yeah, he always follows the "suspect's narrative," before giving us the "real narrative" of what happened. Keeps that tasty suspense and mystery. Ballen's a great storyteller.
I heard one from My Ballen the other day that makes this seem like a Valentine's day party. These other people weren't lucky enough to be shot to death. I wish I hadn't seen it.
@@divyangverma9880 a young woman whom a couple had helped raise as a child when her parents threw her out came back when she was a young adult with some friends, robbed the old people and then, for no reason at all, slowly buried them alive. They found dirt in the people's lungs from the woman throwing dirt on their faces and laughing and they were covered and still screaming before they died. Why put people through such agony and terror for no reason, especially when they had been kind to you? Maybe rob them, maybe even kill them, but why be so brutal? Clearly she was insane, but still. She and her accomplices were caught and convicted.
As a father of 2, these stories can be really difficult to get through, but John's delivery, attention to detail and respect for the victims makes it impossible to not be riveted until the end.
May you can learn from it. Not a native English speaker. But the father made a big mistake. He didn't confront him with the proof right away. A good old father son interaction. Stop! its okay. To break the house of lies...
@@sanfransoho the son is obviously sick in the head and was a grown adult making the choices he did. Regardless of how the father chose to confront the situation. Not like he could’ve ever imagined his own son was going to murder him over it. And I think the plan to go to the meeting was a good idea. And would’ve taught the son a lesson, had he been any other normal person instead of a crazy killer.
@Ju Gru You know what, that IS a good point, that it may have helped the situation. Maybe, maybe not, though. His son is a psycho-killer. I don't blame anyone but him, but usually stopping the pressure and tension and expectation is a good idea with psychos. Chandler would have lied some more, of course, might have followed through anyway, sure, but at least odds would have been smaller. I don't know what the dad was contemplating; Maybe just knew he would get lied to and oh-so tired of his son's b.s.... But I definitely don't blame him. The parents seemed like rarely wonderful people to keep a house in order, which is not something many of us bother to do with what we own, ourselves.
The thing I love about Mr Ballens stories is that you never see what's coming. As he narrates the story - you find yourself trying to guess what happened and trying to work out what happened & who or what was involved. But, because Mr B is such a great story teller, you never see it coming... He's the Alfred Hitchcock of social media stories 👏👍
This is insane. Imagine how much easier his life would have been if he just admitted to his parents after that first semester he was struggling with school. I don’t see how people get into these huge spiraling lies that don’t possibly hold up under scrutiny
It's possible that he was planning to kill himself. I allowed all kinds of things to get out of hand for a while because there was "no point in trying" because I was not planning to stick around.
Ikr even if he had come clean about everything on the day of the meeting with the college and his dad it still wouldn’t have been that bad for him. I can’t understand how some people can be so stupid.
This is exactly why pathological liars are extremely dangerous, I like how in the beginning of this story you kind of even felt bad for Chandler... Until the truth was revealed... I’ve never seen anyone legitimately put that much effort in order to be lazy.
@@rmsiq148isstruggling3 this absolutely had nothing to do with what was said. So why reply and speak the obvious as well. And yes pathological liars are quite dangerous due to their need to up hold their sense of reality.
the sad fact, he put more effort to be lazy than to be productive. If he would have only took have the initiative to actually do something with himself that he did in order to be lazy and live like a bum, he would have done just fine and then all the troubles that he had would have actually never happened ... its so insane
The fact he refuses to take responsibility is really chilling. After everything, he still is trying to maintain a lie. This is beyond sad for everyone involved. Great stuff as usual Mr. Ballen!!
Exactly. At his sentencing hearing he asked for any good lawyers to help him appeal tge conviction and that he was totally innocent. The boy is delusional
@@kess6698 yes! I almost believe he killed them so he could keep living in his delousion, i dont think he killed them because he was caught but just because he wanted to stay in his bubble
He was about to be exposed as a looser and a huge fraud. I guess he didn't want to confront that fact and didn't think far ahead enough to understand that he was about to ruin the rest of his life anyway by murdering his parents.
They wouldn't. This is far too much work for a "dead beat". All the elaborate accounts, characters, phones, and then killing them and disposing of their bodies would've been a lot of work, just imagine the effort of hacking an adult into pieces, then another, then sitting by a fire for days slowly trying to burn them up... He's obviously emotionally dead, but it's still a tremendous amount of work. So he definitely didn't do it to be a slacker. He must have some very serious mental deficiency like psychosis or schizophrenia. It's nothing like a normal person who decided to do this for some perceived gain. He's not that human.
No kidding, something that could have been rectified so simply turned into this senseless murder of your parents. And it sounds like they would have been happy if he just would have went and got a job at 7-Eleven. Thanks for your great comment 😊
The kid was a loser. His parents would not have helped him to the extent of supporting him the rest of his life while he played video games. So I suppose he killed them thinking he could keep the house and maybe get some insurance money.
It gets to a point when you follow multiple true crime channels you hear of the same cases, yet any time you tell a story I’ve heard or know the outcome of it’s like I’m hearing it for the first time all over again and it’s incredible. So much talent and enthusiasm, us strange dark and mysterious folk sure appreciate you!
Yes! A few weeks ago I watched the video where he was talking about a strange kid at a prom and eating cheeseburgers, and some weird happenings at his apartment a couple of years later… my brain recognised the story and thought oh this sounds like a Dahmer copycat. No, he was actually talking about Dahmer but the way he told it had me convinced until the last minute it was a copycat lol. MrBallen is very good at weaving the details into a cohesive engaging story form.
I totally agree, same here! I spend sooo much time watching true crime stuff, and I’ve watched videos on this case before but its always like hearing it for the first time until the very end!
yeah... same with gangs. Those f**kwits run about doing all kind of bs and then get killed at a young age in a violent shoot-out: when most janitors will have a long life with millions in the bank.
I used to know someone like this. They constantly showed this kid of behavior showing no sympathy or emotion, constantly needing attention and lying about everything they did. They attempted to take over my life, acting and dressing exactly like me. He even tried to steal my SO which of course backfired. Safe to say I avoid him at all costs. You never know when a sociopath will snap.
This story made me gasp out loud several times. People who live double lives are the most selfish individuals. Imagine spreading the body parts of your parents around town and then pretending to be concerned for them... Wow.
@@notthegoodgirl look up the chris benoit murder case. Cte is a thing and both cases are strikingly familiar. Injuries to the brain are something that you wouldn't want to wish unto your worst enemy.
jah that is an insane amount of lying, only ever lying.. so crazy talking about cte though kids get whacks to the head all the time, can't be good during developmental period
Your storytelling has turned every single one of my hikes into life-threatening excursions filled with wrong turns, murderers and cougars. Thanks a lot, dude.
I LOVE how you tell the stories from everyone's points of views, telling the lies as part of the truth. So we don't know the truth until the end!!!! You are the BEST story teller on TH-cam!!!!
If he put as much energy in to making a life for himself as he did covering up his lies he would of made something of himself. Such a waste of lives for no good reason. This story was so well executed it had my attention on every word. Great talent Mr Ballen!
@@SonicXisCanon Just because there's a chance of something bad happening or someone doing something bad to you, doesn't mean you just give up on life. Unless you live off grid, away from people, in a nice secluded part of the world, which actually appeals to me and a lot of other people, you are just going to be full of negativity all the time and that's worse than what you're going to feel, from being shit on by someone. Basically, life has it's great life affirming moments and it has it's soul destroying moments and they're going to happen, no matter what. Once you understand and accept that, its a little easier. Good luck, man.
I remember hearing this story before. I'll never get how anyone can ever feel okay with murdering someone let alone their own family that has cared for them their whole life. The familicide cases really bother me more than the regular random murders. It's basically taking selfishness, entitlement and back-stabbing to the most extreme.
Your right, it’s sick to go after your own family. All murder is grotesque but there’s a particular perversion to kill those who gave you life and helped to sustain you when you were vulnerable as a baby and child.
I can't get past the horror of dismemberment, let alone the relationship with the victim. I find it alarming the number of people who appear to be capable of doing something like that.
I have heard and re-heard most of these stories. I think that with 6.5 million subscribers, our beloved Mr. Ballen would think that we are smart enough to know that we remember the stories that he keeps telling over and over again. Nobody tells a story well enough to make me want to hear it recounted so many times that I can say, “NOT AGAIN!
You know. . .something like this has got me wondering about someone that I went to HS with. His mother was super sweet and open-minded. The last time that I saw her was when I was working and she came into the store to buy some new shoes(Payless). A few years later her bones were found(dumped) outside of Fiesta Texas Six Flags. The weirdest thing about him was that her death is highly questionable. He landed up living at home and helping his mom out because his dad left him and his brother to care for her; regardless something isn't right about the whole story. He also had is aggressive girlfriend move into the house, though his description of her was that she demanded she was to move in. I dunno the rest. . .but from what I remember. . .Body Language has "tell-tell signs".
Compassion is the key ingredient for raising children. You have to teach them compassion by the time they're 8 years old. Having a consistent routine and at least one person in their corner is also essential and minimizing trauma as much as is possible. The one thing you can't really control is if they are born with psychopathy and there are ways to tell early on and there are psychologists and psychiatrists that can help the child not turn into a criminal - but psychopathy is pretty rare. Odds are you will not have a child with psychopathy which is basically a type of brain damage/disorder they are born with.
I’d say that his parents created this monster- it’s unfortunate but true that all of their actions & inactions throughout his life whether early life trauma or what but their raising of him led to their son using them until he couldn’t use them anymore. The nail in the coffin was the shame of them finding out he’s a deadbeat all this time, which most likely sent their son into a manic survival mode & instead of owning up to his lies- he decided to throw his parents (which were merely a means to an end) to the side (by killing them) & instead of facing the now, ultra shame- he decided to do what he does best- & that’s to continue the lying & keep his facade going as long as possible. I’m not an expert- this is only my analysis from the story.
There's nothing more frightening than having children, and yet it will be the biggest, most fulfilling thing you'll ever do. Sounds like a cliche, but it's entirely true
As a PARENT, This type of thing just scares the crap out of me! To think the precious baby you poured all your love into, could turn into a MONSTER that murders you, dismembers you, and just go on like NOTHING is wrong! Its mind-blowing! Great Job telling this story John! You are truly the BEST story teller in the WORLD!!!
*Chandler is just one of those people who puts all their effort and energy into **_not_** having to do things/work. While ironically putting in even more effort to avoid having to do whatever, rather than just simply doing it.* *The type of person that would rather die (or kill) than have someone tell them how they should live their life.*
@@camilleshearon5120 maybe, maybe not, he definitely can’t sit and play video games all day anymore and now there’s big black dudes that will rape him so lol
This is the craziest story that I’ve heard from Mr. Ballen. The absolute insanity of what this kid did for no apparent reason other than he wanted to be lazy. It’s just so sickening..
Man, I really gotta give you credit. I watch so much True Crime stuff on YT that there usually ends up being some overlap in stories told by other accounts, but you do such a great job at fleshing out backstory details that totally go untouched on by other channels. Even if I’ve heard the story before, I still stay through because you always introduce some other detail that I never heard before. Great work.
SAME lol I will watch him and Stephanie Soo tell ones I already know and eve Bailey Sarian. I've watched and heard everything to do with John Wayne Gacy yet Bailey said so much I've neverrrr heard it's crazy.
@@eliassanchez420wakenbake I mean yeah everyone copies others it all depends on the information you can get and what is hot in the moment. Kurt Cobain spoke of this. But MrBallen has great delivery I will say
The full trial is on YT. The way they proved what times he was burning them in the fireplace was based on a neighbors camera. It's barely a few pixels wide, but they matched the window from the fireplace room frame by frame that night and you can see the fire build up, and die, and build up again and then burn out of control before going out. That's when the fireplace glass shattered. Their fat cells were rendering out and having fans blowing in caused an "oven fire" or "grease fire". He tried to throw water on it but we all know what happens when you throw water on a grease fire. He was proven guilty more detailed than anyone else I have ever seen. Day by day and hour by hour for a whole week he left evidence EVERYWHERE.
He was absolutely one of the dumbest people I’ve ever witnessed~ let alone trying to cover up a double homicide! I feel so sad for his brother, ex-girlfriend & extended family. Some people question Bart & Christa’s parenting. I honestly believe they were loving, caring, supportive parents. Perhaps naive and a little too soft, but in no way abusive. And considering Kat’s testimony, I don’t think she had ANYTHING to do with it or knew about it, no matter how many people may think she did.
@@VenraeLOL People think that?! Wow! 😳🤯🤢 I’ve watched quite a few videos about the murders & trial but I’ve never heard that. I doubt it, BUT, tbh, considering the horrific things that he did, it wouldn’t surprise me. 🤷🏻♀️
@@VenraeLOL I’m still convinced he took a nibble and that his girlfriend was in on it. No prosecutor will spend 2-3 minutes saying how you didn’t know anything and had nothing to do with it unless you actually did.
I live in DeForest and covered this story on a podcast earlier this year. You did such an amazing job structuring the story! I've heard other people tell the story on various podcasts and almost everyone got things wrong. I watched the whole trial- twice! And you nailed everything while leaving out the right unnecessary details. Perfect storytelling as usual.
What are you talking about? He left out SO MUCH. He didn’t even mention the farm or cress. And the fact that the parade was on the 3rd was something chandler had actually pointed out to the police. It did NOT break the case open. What broke the case open was the farm and Cress telling police about his weird visit. This has to be a fake comment, it couldn’t be more wrong
It was soo devastating to see this case from "the unaware girlfriends" perspective,she seemed really supportive,like she was still in denial after he got locked up,but awhile after she completely cut him off from her life. I heard from another channel that she apparently got herself a dog,but she has gone into complete "hiding" from social medias,wich i totally understand. She is soo sweet,i hope she manages to recover,move on and become the happy,bubbly and energetic,positive young woman she was before all this. She will probably not trust another guy again just like that,poor thing. But with time hopefully. This guy seemed soo harmless at first,but oh man......the personality once his guard was down,and all the evidence pointed towards him. Gave me the chills.
This is a crazy story, I've had cousins that lied about going to college. Which probably happens more often than most think. But this kid took it to the next level, he deserves everything he will endure for the rest of his life.
I know people who lied to their family that they work after they got fired. Get up and leave every morning as if they still work. But this is mainly because they fear he will lose his family's respect when they found out.
There is very little help in America for people suffering from mental illnesses, including severe anxiety. Why do you think he did this? Poor self-esteem and anxiety.
I love the way you tell this story from Chandler's irrational alibi. It really illustrates how implausible his story and how delusional a person he was.
Yes ... the volunteer scuba police diver thing sounded totally fake 🤔but Mr Ballen charged ahead with such a good story that i dismissed my disbelief 🥴
@@j3suisd3 that and the spacex job offer definitely seem like fantasy fodder, but presumably some real ppl do those things so why not some rando from a small town, i guess....
I can't imagine how the brother must feel. All of a sudden his entire family is gone and it's his brothers fault. It really makes you believe that some people, no matter how loved and well cared for, are just evil at their core.
Of course!!! It is a combination of the usual suspects genetics and birth to 3 yr.old environment. Parent, nursery school teachers and community members recognize something off with a toddler need to let someone know.Early intervention sometimes makes a difference. This the main reason I find “family secrets” so toxic and dangerous.I often wonder what percentage of Ancestry, DNA generational family trees have identified a family relation in the last 7-15 generations do not find someone with serious problem. To me it does add up. Kudos ‘Jonathan’!Very creative idea, beautiful execution. we could emphasize with what his parents and brother felt when they realized the truth, because we , as your audience,w a smaller degree, but the same
I didn't even think about that. I wonder how the brother is doing now? I wonder if he communicates with him in prison. I personally think it's better to forgive (for ones own self) then to harbor all the negative feelings that go along with resentment and hate. Just curious.
This has to be one of the most ridiculous true crime stories I've ever heard. It's very sad I feel so sad thinking about the mom happily going to get soda for her brat son not knowing how evil he was. Even after all his lies she bent over backwards for him. Like dude your motive was..emarrassment? The thought of actually having to WORK or use your brain?
the poor Mom and grabbing the soda on the way home from WORK thing really made me feel so sad!!!!! Like Dayum, can it get more cold than this!?? hmmm me thinks not! I am just surprised there isn't a movie about this
There was also the matter of around $1,000,000 in inheritance. Mitchell is lucky, if you call the murder and dismemberment of his parents at the hands of his brother lucky, that he wasn’t living with them at the time. I have no trouble believing Chandler would have killed him too.
Knowing that the first half of the story was Chandler's fallacy the entire time made listening to it even harder. I really feel for his family, Bart and Krista truly loved him and only wanted the best for him. I still can't believe people will go _this far_ to protect lies. I'd much rather be known as a liar than a murderer, I don't get the logic.
Psychopath don't think like normal people. They don't feel like normal people. Look it up. He is a dumb one. Just fooled his parents wich loved him. Other psychopath run whole countries and smash them. Like it is happening now.
Well, he was stupid enough that he thought he would get away with the murder because everyone would just think his mom and dad disappeared on their visit up to their lake house. Therefore no one would know he was a murderer AND no one would know he was a liar because he killed his dad who he was sure was the only person who knew he was a liar. So he would be known as neither. He would just be this super neat, super smart, super successful person he pretended to be.
@@Packarooit takes an adult raised in a loving, nurturing environment to accept responsibility for their actions instead of being a victim and expecting to be treated differently because of trauma or other factors. I completely agree with your point ✌🏻🫶🏻🫡
I watched the trial and it was heartbreaking to watch Kat and Chandlers brother testify about how the parents were such great people. Kat cared more about his parents than he ever did. The sad part is that his parents would have been upset and hurt because he lied to them for years, but they would have forgave him for all of it if he would’ve taken steps to better himself. They really loved him, they were discovering he was a liar, but neither of his parents would have thought for a second he was capable of killing them.
This is the kind of person that results from parents not making their kids suffer the natural and logical consequences of their mistakes, and not raising them with regular church (or temple for Jews) worship and not holding their kids to strict, high morals as an imperative.
@@kayceetaylor2151 raising your child with church does not automatically make them incapable of murder. There have been clergy and children of clergy who have killed. So raising your children without church has nothing to do with it.
@@kayceetaylor2151 I’m not gonna criticize their parenting, they are deceased. They loved their kids, they did their job as parents. Everyone who testified had nothing but good things to say about them. The last thing their other son Mitchel needs is to come across people criticizing his deceased parents on the internet. They had 2 boys, they were raised the same way and were very close in age. Mitchel didn’t turn out the way his brother Chandler did. He graduated from college, had a job, had moved out to live with his fiancée and was very self sufficient. He was thriving. Chandler had every opportunity his brother did, he just wasn’t interested in bettering himself, he used all his time and energy lying to everyone. We can’t always blame the parents, some people are just born evil.
I think my favorite thing about his storytelling is that he can take a story I've already heard from other true crime channels and turn it into something new. Love your style, Mr. B
Yeah; I just heard this story yesterday (!), told by Mike of That Chapter, and yet I didn't recognize it until 16:30 or smth - MrBallen's point of view was Soooo different. What I love about you, both of the dudes, is that you both are really superb in different styles. Keep on going, guys!Raoul, from Estonia
I totally agree! I’ve heard and read about this from a few different places and I didn’t realize this was the same story until about 12:30 into it. Ballen includes a lot of first hand accounts, points of views, and details and thoughts of the people in the stories that no other place has. I don’t know where he gets these tidbits of info that no one else includes but it definitely makes for a much better version of the story!! ❤️
Kimbyrleigha has a three part deep dive on this case which totals about 6 hours. Incredible story the six hours will disappear in a flash. This case brought me back to true crime, but I still watched the whole Mr Ballen video.
@@jamescook6564 hes got a little kid i get the priorities! What i laughed at in the past was one advert would be for mental health the next followed by like some burger advert
If he did more, it'd probably stand to reason that there are more stories to tell. Which would lead to the inescapable conclusion that the world would have to be a worse place. Personally, I'd be inclined to blame the Like button. 😛
Crazy that I’ve heard this story so many times but it took til 23 minutes in for me to recognise it. That’s story telling! Never heard it from this perspective before. Absolutely brilliant
The image of the poor mum walking into her beautiful home she and her husband made, expecting to see her adoring husband and son waiting for her, only to be shot dead by one of her children in cold blood had me shedding tears. Neither she or Bart deserved this.
@@CameronBishop3400 I really hope she never saw him & that he came up from behind... and I hope that piece of trash sees them every night in his sleep and all day, every day, in just the same way they looked after he'd cut them up, I hope he never has a moment's peace. Imagine being so worthless & lazy that you get caught deceiving two good parents for over 4 years & you think you MIGHT, just MIGHT get kicked out (at 23 dang years old!!) so your solution is to murder the only 2 people who care about you, who love you...and when your murdering them will only mean you'll still end up homeless within a few months when the mortgage & bills are not paid (by the people who did work and pay those bills) because you mercilessly and ignorantly killed them?? No wonder he couldn't pass one semester of college, he's a total ingrate & moron without aconscience. He knew he'd stolen thousands of dollars from his parents, telling them he was going to college & stealing the tuition money they gave him; to just sit on his butt doing nothing..
This case is particularly tragic! The need to constantly lie to avoid embarrassment and responsibility is just unbelievable. How narcissistic and deranged do you have to be to resort to murder to cover up your lies?? Great job as always Mr. Ballen!!
I was thinking that too. Why did Chandler feel like he had to lie to his parents and why did he go to such great lengths to continue his lies?!? I'm also curious why his Dad felt the best way to confront his son after discovering he didn't go to school was to back him into a corner for a public humiliation at the school. It just all seems like such a weird family dynamic. I'm sure there is more to the story that had been building for years but what exactly?!? I'm just a curious person wondering about the details. 🤔
@@TheOfficialTarynTots Dude is clearly a psychopath. Lies, manipulation and over the top schemes rather than just going to school and getting a damn job lol. Backed into a corner, he ended up killing both his parents and dismembering their bodies?? Crazy stuff.
I honestly wonder if he has narcissistic personality disorder. So convinced of his greatness even the thought of not being great is unbearable so he has to fabricate greatness and to expose it as a fabrication, unbearable.
@@nostalgicbliss5547 Oh, I wasn't defending him in anyway. I was just curious about the family dynamics leading up to that point. I didn't mean for it to sound that way if that is how you took it.
My fiancé worked for the same company as Krista, and I remember him telling me about how people were starting to worry that she wasn’t showing up for work. I was horrified when they figured out what happened. I never would have thought something like this could happen so close to home. Absolutely devastating
Well, it always happens close to someone’s home. It’s crazy how many people are murdered. I knew two people who ended up murdered (separate incidents) and I knew of two other people who were murdered who were brothers of extended family through marriage. Just today, I was thinking about how when something bad happens, people say they thought it was something that happened to other people. What does that even mean? Other people are us, and we are other people. We’re all “other people” to most people.
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I swear every time I listen to one of your stories, I realize it's a story I've already heard before, sometimes more than once. I can't tell exactly what the story is until near the end because you tell the story so differently and so well. You are an amazing story teller and I am HERE FOR IT! AYYYYYYYYY!!!! Lololol keep it up! I listen to your podcast too!
Seeing Bart in that "Incredible Dad" shirt, smiling really broke my heart. It humanized him even more for me. Even when you accept the reality of death and it's inevitability it's so hard to truly *accept* that someone is dead when your staring at a picture of them happy and innocent. Also seeing Krista's text. Informal and happy. It would be easier to believe they were murderers or killed by a stranger. But murdered by their own son with no warning? Truly my brain refuses to grasp it. They were just like us. Living life day-to-day and it all abruptly stopped by someone who they raised and supported and trusted. It's that easy to die. I know this but my brain just refuses to grasp it.
Agreed 💯 First- that is an incredibly horrible way to die. Second- my heart breaks for the surviving brother. How in the world he was/is able to process this tragedy is beyond me. Heartbreaking all the way around.
I've lied to my parents before but this is beyond extreme. Then kill and dismember his parents because he was caught in a lie is beyond insane. Wow...just wow.
He truly must be crazy, killing his own parents, and she was happy to buy him a soda, sending a smiley face, completely unknowing, and then being shot when you enter the house, is truly horrible.
As a Wisconsin resident, this is a case I’m very familiar with. Hearing a Mr. Ballen spin on the events was a treat; this whole story was bonkers. That poor family.
This is the fourth case I've heard where someone killed their parents because they flunked out of college and didn't want to tell them. Why is this a thing.
@Angelofdusk13 It's not just kids killing their parents It's anyone who has constructed a complete web of lies about their life and doesn't want it to be revealed. Lots of times it's a husband who ends up killing the wife and the whole family because he's created a web of lies. These pathological liars are also cowards and often turn violent when it's revealed because they don't want to admit it. The parents definitely should not have spoiled Chandler but this is all on him.
I just want to say I appreciate your acknowledgment that not all your viewers/ listeners are from the US and you take a few seconds to explain something that might not be obvious to foreigners like me , so that I don’t have to pause the vid and check. Yes in this case I do know what July 4th is , but I’ve seen in different videos you explaining American custom stuff on the side which I forgot to thank for so - great job, awesome storytelling, amazing channel❤️ Thanks!
#BoycottBallenTheLiar #AskMeWhy... Also reporting your videos for false info. Go check his Spotify story descriptions he admits that he doesn't always fact check and if he doesn't know something he just makes it up. Y'all really want someone just lying to you? There are better creators out there that tell these same stories without the lies and manipulation. They also don't have mommy write their script
I don't believe you on this at all. I think you have things way off. For one, he has no motive to lie. I don't know who you were interacting with, but it wasn't MrBallen. Also, he writes the scripts for all his TH-cam videos, and his mother writes the scripts of his podcasts. Half of those podcasts, though, are retellings of videos he's already made, so those must be somewhat easier to do. My thinking is that it's great that he and his mother get along so well, to want to tell these stories. I am starting to learn Spanish, and look forward to watching the videos on his Spanish channel! No, I don't believe he's a liar. I think you're one, though! Maybe you aren't aware of it, but you are telling some whoppers, and you can just quit!
If I hadn’t already heard this case I would have felt bad for Chandler, Mr B.Allen is so good at telling stories that even though I already knew what was going to happen I was on the edge of my seat the entire video
The hard realization is that when you're binge watching MrBallen episodes and you realized you have consumed almost every single of his content. Loving every single of your episode and really hoping you can release more MrBallen! Your fans from Malaysia!
Matt Orchard of CS covered this story in a JCS style documentary. Mr Ballen does an amazing job of retelling it from the perspective of those who didn't immediately know about Chandler's evil lies. Both are very different and yet equally very compelling approaches to the same horrific tragedy.
Mr. Ballen has this beautiful performative style of relaying seemingly innocuous details of every crime/weird event he covers, making each video so very compelling and fascinating. Axis, I'm so glad you brought up Matt Orchard because he is so underrated, his crime/controversial subject documentaries are riveting and his narration/style of storytelling is truly unmatched in the vast TH-cam true crime content community. He's so good at dissecting a person's motives and and their decisions leading up to something tragic or controversial from EVERY angle, and furthermore, I appreciate how he always asks us as the audience well-thought-out questions and points of skepticism we may never have thought to ask ourselves, even those of us already familiar with some of the infamous stories he covers. I love how engaged and engrossed i get with each video. His weird cult video was soooo good, i couldn't even be bothered to multi-task whilst watching it. My eyes were just glued on the video from start to finish. Also IF you like Matt Orchard and Mr. Ballen, PLEASE do me a favor and check out the channel: "dreading (crime and psychology)". The narrator's voice takes a bit to warm up to, but his way of delivering his content and his acute observations on the crimes/stories/events he creates are just all gems, truly. He has this way of throwing in underhanded comments throughout his videos (he probably has an outline for his videos and then will remember, as he's telling the story, some offensive or horrid detail about the various vile criminals featured in his videos, and he'll suddenly say something along the lines of "What the f*ck" under his breath, referring to the criminal's motives or decision-making for example. There's nothing contrived about it. I cant really describe the "je ne sais quoi" appeal of his videos. They're just special, like Matt Orchard's. You won't regret it! A lot like Matt's, kind of, they're each unique in their own way. Sorry guys for this ridiculously long unnecessary tangent.
This gives me chills. I’m a mother, and as sad as it is, cases like this is possible and it clearly happens. Probably why I’m cautious about everyone and my surroundings. Freaky
The Son clearly would have presented a Lot of red flags, early in his developing childhood. The parents clearly ignored his perpetual lies and manipulation games, and probably figured he might grow out of it... rather than having him diagnosed for a personality disorder. A normal healthy person, does not do these types of things. This is a Mentally Ill radical, with Narcissistic personality Disorder. He was obsessed with "IMAGE", and was far too lazy, to be bothered to work hard to achieve his goals. His parents were infringing on his chosen lifestyle of being a bum... and so he did what the worst Narcissists would do: To exploit and end them. Thing is... Narcissists may come off as being intelligent.. but they tend to lack any depth of common sense, and logical thinking. This is why they tend to end up getting caught. Look at Amber Heard's trial.. and you will see the same thing. Females in general, are very cautious, and have greater (over-amplified) levels of emotional connection. Its part of the developed Biological traits... which are designed to connect deeper with their children, so that they do no just leave them when danger approaches. The obsessive nature over the environment, was also developed, to help prevent the children from getting sick or injured. As such, its in your very Genetics, to be cautious and careful.
Agree, these people who die deserve it. Why deserve? You know what naturals selection is. When nature goes bad it will destroy itself in some ways. Well this ignorance and this blind faith parents had even while doubting still turning your back, letting someone you doubt live in your house. Then you have it coming for you. If his father had done more before this, and did actions to seperate him out of doubt until he shows proof of some then this could maybe been avoided. and if it still happened then it would be tragic. But this is deserved. Ignorance comes with a price. Sometimes that means your life. Never be ignorant.
I have 3 kids. Should I be triple paranoid about it now 😂😂😂 I'm going to kick them all out of the house because maybe one day they are going to kill me 😏😏😏
Man as a mother, this story is terrifying. I just couldn't even imagine, the child you think you know and love, turning on you and doing such an unthinkable act. It's scary. My prayers go out to the brother and the rest of the family. John, thanks for all of your hard work. Been watching since day 1. And love your videos. My favorite storyteller on TH-cam. ♥️
That's ok... as a son I couldn't even imagine turning on my Mother or Father and doing such an unthinkable act. Though I had a Brother who threatened to do just that. He threatened to Kill us all, all but our other Brother--whom he claimed to have loved--yet he killed HIS son. He was pure evil, and spent his life in and out of Prisons. He died from injuries sustained in Prison--injuries from the Guards, who he was beating to a pulp at the time. (It took 20 of them to subdue him) He died several years after my Parents had died (from cancer). They had lived to the age of 80, my brother made it to nearly 58. So imagine me trying to figure out just how this evil spawn could threaten all of us... and actually kill several others including his OWN (20 year old) NEPHEW over the course of 58 years. I'm still baffled at how someone could be so evil.
I watched the trial on this. What a sad story, I can’t believe he kept up with all his lies. He could of come clean and take responsibility. Now his life is completely over. RIP to both of these amazing parents.. to know your baby is the one to kill you. I could not even imagine what they were feeling. 😥☹️
Yeah that is a LOT of lies to keep track of. However if you're not working or doing anything with your life it's likely not as hard as we might think to be able to keep track of all the lies and what not. Hell part of his time he spent "working at home" could have been him reflecting/taking notes on his lies to make sure he always had his story straight. The guy just looks like a slippery dirt bag at first glance honestly. What a terrible thing to do though... your family are the only people you can ever really depend on throughout all the changes in your life as friends come and go... so for him to destroy that aspect of his life to protect a lie rather than let them help him get his life together (after a huge argument of course and having to feel feelings of having let everyone down) and have a shot at a decent future just goes to show how unintelligent and selfish this guy truly is. I truly hope he never gets out of prison. People like that have no place in society and I think it's pretty much impossible for someone like him to ever redeem themselves.
One of the most disturbing cases I've come across. That delusional freak literally felt more convenience in killing his own mom and dad than owning up the mess of his own creation. No wonder he, even after getting caught and proven to be guilty, hasn't owned up to his crimes. And kuddos to your storytelling, sir. You are the best storytellers I know.
The mess is not entirely his fault though. Americans really think the white picket fence suburbia is still the perfect life to live. I'm pretty sure they played a huge part in their son's failed life.
@@SonicXisCanon Well now it seems as if you Drew may have some of what was inside Chandler inside of you.. Do your Parents know that you harbor these feelings or think this way Drew, your brothers or sisters anyone in your Family ? Because, to be Completely Honest with you, that is Far From the Normal way of looking at this situation. Maybe be proactive here Drew and think about this and the way you might see other terrible outcomes of situations. It may be a Great decision to talk to a professional! Just Sayn..
@@georgemanize And as for you CrueShader.. That Mess Was Absolutely All Chandlers Creation Fault And Doing !! It's Now Remove Head From Ass Time !! @Crue and Drew I can Only Imagine Two separate yet equally Stupid Pre-Pubecent Boy's/Children typing feverishly on their Keyboards desperately needing to get their Most Dipshit of Thoughts about the Real Issues going on With This Family's Dynamics in this comment thread n to make it sound as if it's the Truth..And it's The Truth coming from a Mature Man who thought it thru yet were Denied Simply Because They Are Only Kids w/o a Stitch of Common Sense !!!
@@georgemanize there was nothing that suggested the parents were, in any way, responsible for that kid's failure. From what we have been told in this video, the parents loved their kids and cared a lot about their family. They tried their very best to provide the kids with everything they could have possibly needed to grow. The elder kid turned out to be a responsible man whereas the younger one turned out to be someone pathetic who literally lived two lives. Lied about going to college, lied about graduating from college, lied about working in an insurance company, lied about getting a job from SpaceX, lied about getting a life threatening injury. Let's be honest, that dude was a freak.
This is perhaps one of the saddest of all the stories you've presented. That poor boy Mitchell. As a parent you try to do everything for your kids, try to get them to understand what unconditional love really is. For it to end up like THIS....truly tragic.
My cousin did the same. Kept saying he made it into medical school like his sister. My aunt was so proud that her son was going to be a doctor. Paid his tuition (at great cost to herself), paid his housing and whenever he came close to quitting she paid for vacations to Acapulco or Cancun to take his mind off of school. In reality he was just lying the entire time. Thankfully when he got caught he just threw a tantrum. Jesus Christ, a landmine would deal with pressure better than Chandler. It might have killed less people as well.
Lol it so crazy tht people do that I mean we all.want to impress our parents but people should learn to be themselves ur an adult do whatever u want if ur parents can't support tht so what it's not worth living a big lie smh lol ridiculous
I understand not wanting to disappoint your parents but where is the line drawn in this situation I mean maintaining a double life has got to be so stressful and exhausting.
I mean is your aunt willing to adopt someone willing to do the work?! lol I grew up in a poor family and have been working since i was 12 and full time since I was 15 started high school in senior classes but having to work I couldn’t do my homework. I wish I had the ability to just focus on my work! If only these people knew what they had! So sad! 😢
I've heard this case a couple of times before, but this is the first time I've heard it told from the family's/police's perspective first. For me, it makes the story much more impactful this way.
That little smiley face on his mothers message, replying about the soda... That killed me. That tiny little thing made it feel all too real to me. My mother puts those on messages too.
i really couldnt agree more malady, i hardly have any feelings but when i saw that it pulled the little i have left right out of me, sad times we live in today and im scared to see the sad times to come in the future.
@@kjc1878 good sir i can assure you a higher percentage of his money goes to wounded veterans, deceased veterans and other charities that are associated with that topic then what he pockets, im not saying he isnt making good money but unlike the other 500k youtubers hes trying to make the world a better place for tomorrow, dont criticize this man for something as petty as money cuz im sure theres something more important u can put ur attention into right?
Yesss. Like I think this story is so messed up because it’s crazy relatable. Like those parents could be mine… they loved their children, my mom was and is kinda a hovering mom no matter old I am and my dad has always gone out of his way for me and the there for sure was a total fear of disappointing them so my brother did great and was also an Eagle Scout and I struggled and then got it it together. Neverrr in a million years could I imagine doing what this kid did and it’s just like scary and disconcerting and heartbreaking because he has the type of parents that would’ve been mad about his lies sure, but they would’ve gotten over it because they loved him but he couldn’t deal with disappointing them so he just murdered them and chopped them up… that’s messed up
Well, now Chandler can be as lazy as he wants as he rots in prison.... I can't imagine how sick a person has to be to not only kill but cut up their parent's corpses.... Dang 😳😬
We can never even remotely think about killing someone, as normal thinking persons. But taking it t a step further, killing your own family which was your whole life kind and loving. But to add some more unbelievable steps forward: to cut them into pieces and burn them? He had no issues with his parents. They weren’t treating him bad so he must have a bad feeling about them. How can you do this? This must me an undetected psychopath. Sure his life was about to fall apart but he had the chance to do a restart. Loosing all the thrust but trying to make out a living, it wasn’t too late. But with his actions he truly destroyed his and his families life.
Went to school with Chaz in middle/early high school, considered us friends of sorts. Horrifying when I had heard what he’d done after being invested in his “missing” parents. Goes to show you don’t always know someone as well as you think you do. *Been watching Mr.Ballen for awhile now, even watching this case firsthand and seeing it on my social media from a more personal aspect - Mr.Ballen’s storytelling does it so much justice! Will forever be a fan of his storytelling!
The brain is an organ and like other organs can become diseased and go awry. Except the sick brain makes people act out odd ways you would never expect from a diseased liver or kidney. I am not sure you can completely know someone and if you do you may not once their brain gets sick. Sad story.
It's not like his "true face was revealed" people are multifaceted and consciousness works kind of like a majority government in your brain. But there are always minorities. Sometimes those minorities are really dangerous and take complete control over you. But its incorrect to say that your consciousness is your brain. Its produced by your brain from a myriad of processes. What im saying is that people are complex and people tend to reduce them to just one assessment. Maybe he was actually friendly in the context you met him in.
I just don’t understand the mental degradation someone goes through to become an extreme psychopath like Chandler here Some people are psychopaths since their kids. (Many serial killers). Some people are abused when their young so they come insane killers Chandler’s is like he casually flipped a crazy switch in his head and abandoned all of his humanity
A friend of mine murdered his father in law, who’s son was another friend of mine. You just never know with people. People change or we never knew them, it’s different for everyone but it’s sad each time because we always feel betrayed or duped.
@@JayDAnderson So you're basically saying some people who go down the wrong path have gotten a diseased brain and got a sick brain? Sorry dude, no. That's just a sociopath or at least sociopath behavior.
I watched this trial. It was horrific. He picked the right kind of girlfriend that would believe everything he said, even once the trial started. He never once showed any feelings. Another creepy sociopath that ruined many lives. Everyone loved his parents. 😞
@@pagejames8754 I get your thoughts but Normal? What is normal? Normal is a setting on a washing machine other than that everyone's normal is different. I would say Average or typical are better words to describe a large entity or mass of people thinking alike. No arrogance intented Peace, I just hate the word normal.
@@ticketyboo2456 buddy I didn't get to move out until I was 30 and so did a lot of my friends, housing is just scarse these days 😂😂 were not all about to kill our parents
I really thought "Oh what a caring son he even went door to door" and then 5 minutes later my jaw hit the floor... Glad to hear he has no chance of parole. Hope that doesn't change no matter how much he appeals. I'm speechless. I feel for Bart and Krista. So heartbreaking
Im so glad John focused on Bart & Krista, telling their story together rather than focusing on the criminal/murderer which is the usual rhetoric on MSM/SM. That glorifies it to the next killer, and so on... John is doing amazing things!
I feel like your post was a total spoiler. It was the top post and you can see it when you hit play so of course I saw it and read it and I knew it was Chandler that Chandler was involved so I still listened to the story to see who Chandler was and what he did.
@@joystrawnhill Ya, it is, along with lots of other spoiler comments..That's why I stay out of the comments until After I finish listening to the whole story..LoL
As an ex addict, I can relate to the feeling of drowning in my lies…I chose to come clean and not murder everyone I’ve lied to….but I can definitely relate to that feeling of drowning in my own lies and not knowing how I’m getting out of it. It’s a devastating, ground falling from beneath you feeling. I’m glad I chose to come clean. It changed my life.
First congratulations on getting clean! Thats not easy so be proud of yourself!❤ what you said is so true. It’s like being smothered. Sometimes it’s impossible to remember which lie was told to who and when. Yes there’s times when lying might be your only option to survive. Not cause you’re lazy and don’t wanna work. It’s very freeing to be honest, as long as it’s not done in a vindictive and hurtful way. But with respect if deserved. I used to lie a lot due to situations I’ve been in but I finally decided no more. All lying does is cause chaos and breaks trust. Sometimes all I have is my word but if I’m lying it’s useless. How can people trust I’d keep my word if I lie? So now I make sure my word means something by being honest at all times. My loyalty, love and any promises I make is never questioned BECAUSE I don’t lie. Stay strong cause you GOT THIS!! 😊
Thank you for your heartfelt honesty. My son is an addict and lies to us about almost everything- serious or inconsequential. We are trying our best to be supportive, but it’s so hard. Your description about drowning in lies hurts my heart because I know that’s what he must be feeling too.
he just needs Jesus. Trust me. I know from experience. Jesus really is the one and only Son of God and Savior of humanity and the world. (Why would we lie about that??? What do we get in return for that "lie"? nothing but ridicule and being cast out of society. Look at what Jesus's original disciples got for telling the world about Him - they were killed. So I hope you can take my word for it. I wish you could understand how true it is - Jesus is pure Good. They say He is "the way, the truth, and the life." That is spot on. If you care about your son, let him know about this please. If you are tired of trying all of the world's ways, just sit with him one night, and tell him about how Jesus loves him and can save him@@susanfirey2033
Can we just appreciate this man stood out in the middle of a road just to tell us this story
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Ikr true legend
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Haha thanks 💪
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Insanity. All I can think about is his mom texting him, “K I can :)” completely unaware that her son is plotting her murder and her husband is already dead. Gives me chills.
@Witty Witty okay buddy
@Witty Witty as a famous tweet says : You can say “I like pancakes” and somebody will say “So you hate waffles?”.
Insecure much, dude?
@Witty Witty bruh, the person was saying the context of the text is chilling given the background behind it.
@Witty Witty that’s literally not what she said clown 🤡
That got to me too, it's the same sort of thing my mum would say if I was to ask her to grab me something.
Also @Witty Witty wtf?
“K, i can :)” actually made me so sad, she sounded like such a nice woman
i thought the same thing.
This is exactly how
I would have responded. Even if I was tired from a long day at work or the grocery store was out of the way.
The thought that my son would be at home plotting my death is just unfathomable. Poor woman 😢
@mkultra42 Yes!! I'd do anything for my babies! (They're grown now - 18 and 21 but still!) Like what a horrific, blood chilling story 😢
@@msangie101183 (((hugs))) Me too. Mine are 16 and 12 now and they’re still my babies. I do joke with them though and say - Hey, if you flunk out of college and feel some way about it, please write me a letter or something. Don’t hit me over the head with a frying pan or anything in my kitchen.
We have a weird sense of humor like that ;)
During the testimony hearing his ex start crying anrd her interrogation around the case when she she mentions theyd all play mario cart and just the little detail she always made the yoshi sound, made me sad.
The older I get, the more and more these types of stories bother me.
I couldn’t fathom taking advantage of my parent’s trust like that. Just seeing the mothers text “k I can :)” breaks my heart. I imagine all the times my own mother has texted me and gone out of her way to pick something up after work… even thinking about using that against her in such an evil way hurts my soul.
Because you’re an empathetic person with prob average to low levels of psychopathy.
this was one of the things that got me the most too. as a mother myself and someone who ADORES their own mother, i can’t even imagine. i really really feel for her and Bart. this was devastating.
I know it hurts me, too, especially because my mom is named Christa, and I often ask her things. Like "Hey can you pick me up a soda?" So it felt kind of personal and made me feel really sad.
I just hope neither of them saw it was their own two faced evil and stupid son..........@@MiloTheBirdLover
A psychopath cannot appreciate anything that comes from the heart. And I believe compulsive lying can make a person psychopath.
I’m always bewildered by people who think that the best way to avoid being caught in a lie is to kill the people they’ve lied to. They don’t want to be exposed as liars but potentially being exposed as murderers is somehow a preferable outcome.
extremely flawed logic.
Right? At least being exposed as a liar you can potentially come back from that and do better but murder? Never.
@@stevensmith8977 Nicely written!
Yea i didn't think about that..yea that makes it worse then it already is.. dang..
They brainwash themselves into thinking they can actually get away with it. If they really thought they would get caught they probably wouldn't do it.
The way his mom said “K I can :)” after he asked her for something without even saying (please/if you can) just says so much about how kind his mother was . And the dad didn’t even confront him he wanted him to come clean 💔 they were good people
It seems like they saw all of the signs, but didn't want to believe that Chandler was capable of the things he was doing. The way he said, "Pick up soda on your way home" says a lot about their relationship. He used and abused her and she coddled him. It's just totally sick that he robbed his own parents of their lives. 💔💔
yeah that made me sad. my mom would probebly answer similarly. i couldnt imagine doing anything to harm her :( shes adorable and a lovely person.
@@VioletJoy What I’m wondering about (not to vilify that two people lost their lives) is the money? Did it exist? If it did, was this one of the motivations for killing them? Have the money “disappear” along with his parents?
@@Peron1-MC Just out of curiosity, would you actually ask your mom or demand like Chandler did?
@@VioletJoy no i wouldnt
It's incredible how much work Chandler put into not working
So true.
Lmfao!
Oh sweet irony 😂
It's easier to just get a job lol
@@Oregun44It seems like it, but the difference (I’m just playing devils advocate) is when if he had a job in real life when he goes to his job, almost all of things are out of your control and I mean you have a boss telling you what to do, etc. But, if you choose to create a life that is a lie, you’re are in the driver’s seat the whole time, yes you are creating this job because you have to jump through hoops for your parents, but you’re in control and for people that have these kind of personality disorders, control is very important.
I think the scariest part of this story is that Chandler was otherwise a completely normal human being and (up until his web of lies began unraveling) never gave anyone any reason to believe that he was mentally ill.
Covert narcissist.
Not mentally ill just plain evil.And continuing to appeal his sentence instead of just taking the punishment that he deserves,like a damn man.His appeals are for nothing,they will be rejected.
I love your narrating / storytelling abilities.... but your hand motions drive me insane 😂😂😂
How is this mental illness? It sounds more like psychopathic behavior. ( not certain if that diagnosis even fits the mental illness categories). It is intriguing to me that a person can be born with this tendency. Genetics? Missing chromosome? . His parents sound as if they did all the right things and literally had no control over his outcomes. Proves having children is a crapshoot...no disrespect...
I've never dismembered a body but I'm pretty sure that it is much more difficult than apologizing for lying.
@@MagnificentDevilweird joke ngl.. at least i hope it’s a joke, I don’t wanna see this in a future mrballen video
Nah it's not harder.
@@MagnificentDevil divorce for the sake of ur wifes/husbands life
@@kittymilkyyy lmao
@@MagnificentDevilif you don’t like your spouse enough to make this joke, just get a divorce
What’s also really sad about this is how his dad still had enough faith in him to think he’d simply come clean. He probably had absolutely no idea that his son was capable of this.
His son was obviously all messed up in the head (normal people don't do this). He should've talked to him directly but who knows how that would've ended just as well. Stupid guy, he should/ve came clean and rebuild his life, now its far to late...
Sheesh
Extremely sad
One thing sticks out...
Why would Bart make real appointments with actual counselors?
Why wouldn't he just tell Chandler that he had, and then depending on Chandler's response say, "I know everything..."
Why would he drag Chandler to a meeting just to expose him when it wasn't really necessary?
If Chandler denied it, he could always go back and get proof.
Weird.
@@itsROMPERS... omg I leeeeeove your profile name!!! 😅😂🤣
Imagine being the poor brother, Mitchell. Lost everyone all at once. Heartbreaking doesn’t even come close to covering how that must feel for Mitchell.
My goodness, I didn't even think of that till I read your comment. I was too floored by the despicable actions of this incredible coward. Holy shit, both of your parents die on the same day at the hands of a brother you realize you never really knew.
I hope he has close extended family.
I seen this story told a number of ways but this was the best! Such a fascinating, unbelievable and brutal tragedy.
Imagine being Catherine ( Cat) , one day she found out her “ hubby” was a complete fraud, killer and pathological liar. Everything he was telling her in past 2 years was completely fabricated by “ChazzleDazzle” - Chandler’s name on social media apps. 🤦🏼🤦🏼🤦🏼
I know of a family that I knew personally where the brother and the sister murdered their parents and the poor middle sister lost her whole family in one foul swoop.
So weird seeing people say my name and the conversation not being about Mitch McConnell lol
the way you tell a story, where I never see it coming, is truly a gift. you’re the best.
I feel sorry for Chandler's brother, Mitchell. He lost both of his parents and found out that his own brother is a monster.
@@giakolou2876are you being serious? Chandler faked that..
@@giakolou2876 did you not watch the video before commenting? He just fell accidentally and faked the whole huge concussion and paralysis thing. And that happened way after he had already lied about going to college and having an amazing job. Now that I think about it, he's so good at manipulating people he even made you believe he's not a monster.
@@Nil_Samathat’s cute thanks for the laugh.
It must have been terrible for him.
Do we call those people evil or mental health victims?
I have not heard a better storyteller ever, I swear this guy could make the directions on a box of shake and bake horrifying.
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Shake and bake is horrifying.
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he cut up his mum and dad in to pieces and tried to burn them, then he failed and then dumped the parts randomly everywhere, its just non imaginable. absolute demon.
I thought he was just having a cook-out.
Unfathomable. His parents obviously would have been mad, but based on everything else, I'm sure they'd forgive Chandler and get him on the right path. How could you kill and cut up your parents? I couldn't do that to an animal.
Just your usual garden variety psychopath coming into his own when his lies no longer are effective. Without any concern in the world, he resorts to silencing the only people that loved him, that have exposed his true colors behind his “Mask of sanity.”
You are correct!
INTO HIS GF’S PARENTS BACK YARD. They probably have MET and his torso is mutilated in their back yard. It’s so TWISTED
I remember hearing this story a while back. I was halfway in when things started to sound familiar, and then I knew exactly how it ended. I think you did a really great job portraying this story. It was a fresh take, and definitely had me going.
The most unbelievable thing about this story is the fact that the dad was able to get all this info from the customer service in 17 minutes
LOL, Sean. Tell me about it. I cannot get a human on the phone for anything anymore!
Shoutout to Omar 😂
Ya customer service is never that fast
😂🤣 damnnn
yeah and these days (or at least at every school I've gone to) they won't just hand that information out to you. They will make you verify your identity, you can't just ask for transcripts and then get them
I feel so bad for Mitchell. I can't imagine the heartache he's going through.
I feel like people don’t mention this enough when covering this case, the poor guy lost his parents and his brother (mentally/emotionally) all at once. So awful. I hope he’s got a good support system
Yes, I can't even imagine how difficult this must be for him. He must feel like he is going to wake up and this was all a nightmare.
@@ellybean5868 Seriously. I can't imagine how he could even begin to process such a horrible thing. All we can do is pray for him and his remaining family members. 💔🙏🏽🕊️
I hope he has help and a good support system around him. I feel so bad for him as well.
@@gwendolyn2442 I can't help but wonder if anyone, friends or family, had an inkling that this kid was not quite "right." It's quite scary to think that someone could hide that kind of personality in such a close knit family.
I pray that his brother gets the long term support that he will surely need after being orphaned by his own sibling.
As a true crime connoisseur, I recognized this story immediately, but it was so interesting how you were sharing it from Chandler’s false perspective that I kept watching! Very creative story-telling, well done.
Right! I was like nooo that’s not the truth, but I waited until the end. It was like he filled in holes from the other true crime podcast.
Yeah, he always follows the "suspect's narrative," before giving us the "real narrative" of what happened. Keeps that tasty suspense and mystery. Ballen's a great storyteller.
This is the main reason why I follow this account 🎉 Amazing storytelling ❤
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I can't imagine the betrayal of your own kid killing you. Hopefully they didn't have time to even realize what was happening. Heart breaking.
It's terrifying that you can raise a psychopath who might eventually kill you, even if you were great parents.
Well when he was born he wasnt a sociopath. He just later turned into one.
There is always a bad and a good
@@koheletsmoger2327 Well actually psychopaths are born, sociopaths (which I think is what you are referencing) are made.
you dont know if they were great parents you dont know what went on behind closed doors
@@harleatyler7411 I was more speaking in general and not about this case specifically, but yes you are correct.
That story totally broke my heart. His parents sounded like amazing people.
I heard one from My Ballen the other day that makes this seem like a Valentine's day party.
These other people weren't lucky enough to be shot to death.
I wish I hadn't seen it.
@@itsROMPERS... which case are you talking about
@@itsROMPERS... What case?
@@divyangverma9880 a young woman whom a couple had helped raise as a child when her parents threw her out came back when she was a young adult with some friends, robbed the old people and then, for no reason at all, slowly buried them alive.
They found dirt in the people's lungs from the woman throwing dirt on their faces and laughing and they were covered and still screaming before they died.
Why put people through such agony and terror for no reason, especially when they had been kind to you?
Maybe rob them, maybe even kill them, but why be so brutal?
Clearly she was insane, but still.
She and her accomplices were caught and convicted.
Yes. Completely broke my heart too.
As a father of 2, these stories can be really difficult to get through, but John's delivery, attention to detail and respect for the victims makes it impossible to not be riveted until the end.
May you can learn from it.
Not a native English speaker.
But the father made a big mistake. He didn't confront him with the proof right away. A good old father son interaction. Stop! its okay. To break the house of lies...
@@sanfransoho the son is obviously sick in the head and was a grown adult making the choices he did. Regardless of how the father chose to confront the situation. Not like he could’ve ever imagined his own son was going to murder him over it. And I think the plan to go to the meeting was a good idea. And would’ve taught the son a lesson, had he been any other normal person instead of a crazy killer.
@Ju Gru You know what, that IS a good point, that it may have helped the situation. Maybe, maybe not, though.
His son is a psycho-killer. I don't blame anyone but him, but usually stopping the pressure and tension and expectation is a good idea with psychos.
Chandler would have lied some more, of course, might have followed through anyway, sure, but at least odds would have been smaller.
I don't know what the dad was contemplating; Maybe just knew he would get lied to and oh-so tired of his son's b.s....
But I definitely don't blame him. The parents seemed like rarely wonderful people to keep a house in order, which is not something many of us bother to do with what we own, ourselves.
For real, I have 4 girls, watching these stories makes me paranoid about them being away from me
100% agree!
Can we get this man some Oscars for being the world's best storyteller???
Stephanie Soo/ Rotten Mango
I. But MrBallen is so much better then Stephanie
The thing I love about Mr Ballens stories is that you never see what's coming. As he narrates the story - you find yourself trying to guess what happened and trying to work out what happened & who or what was involved. But, because Mr B is such a great story teller, you never see it coming... He's the Alfred Hitchcock of social media stories 👏👍
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So damn true.... I've seen two awesome deep dives on this case and I still hung on his every word. The way he tells stories is magic.
Even if you’ve already heard it!
So true I'm always like what's next 😂
IKR! I was totally taken by surprise! 🙆🏻♀️ He is SUCH a good storyteller!
This is insane. Imagine how much easier his life would have been if he just admitted to his parents after that first semester he was struggling with school. I don’t see how people get into these huge spiraling lies that don’t possibly hold up under scrutiny
ikr his parents were nice they probablay would have helped him
Probably because he's a narcissist: can't accept responsibility ; the lies, probably because he's a sociopath: lies to everyone starting with himself.
It's possible that he was planning to kill himself. I allowed all kinds of things to get out of hand for a while because there was "no point in trying" because I was not planning to stick around.
Ikr even if he had come clean about everything on the day of the meeting with the college and his dad it still wouldn’t have been that bad for him. I can’t understand how some people can be so stupid.
Narcissists don't see how their lies effect those around them or themselves.
This is exactly why pathological liars are extremely dangerous, I like how in the beginning of this story you kind of even felt bad for Chandler... Until the truth was revealed... I’ve never seen anyone legitimately put that much effort in order to be lazy.
Literally! Mr. Ballen is such an amazing story teller! I've never seen anyone so good at it as him
@@rmsiq148isstruggling3 this absolutely had nothing to do with what was said. So why reply and speak the obvious as well. And yes pathological liars are quite dangerous due to their need to up hold their sense of reality.
the sad fact, he put more effort to be lazy than to be productive. If he would have only took have the initiative to actually do something with himself that he did in order to be lazy and live like a bum, he would have done just fine and then all the troubles that he had would have actually never happened ... its so insane
@@rmsiq148isstruggling3 lol this has nothing to do with the original comment. I hope you don’t think you have a 148 IQ 🤣
@@tyronedelaney174 100 bucks says it’s a bot.
I love how he tells stories in the way he does. Not letting us know what’s REALLY going on until ITS TIME to tell us! LOVE IT!
The fact he refuses to take responsibility is really chilling. After everything, he still is trying to maintain a lie. This is beyond sad for everyone involved. Great stuff as usual Mr. Ballen!!
Exactly. At his sentencing hearing he asked for any good lawyers to help him appeal tge conviction and that he was totally innocent. The boy is delusional
MOST kids are like this. These days.
I heard "refuses to take responsibility" and my first thought was, "of course he won't, he's an entitled POS."
@@kess6698 yes! I almost believe he killed them so he could keep living in his delousion, i dont think he killed them because he was caught but just because he wanted to stay in his bubble
Well he is obviously a sociopath-psychopath. No empathy but totally self absorbed
To think that someone would go to this extreme just so that he could fulfill his desire to live the life of a deadbeat, is absolutely appalling!
He was about to be exposed as a looser and a huge fraud. I guess he didn't want to confront that fact and didn't think far ahead enough to understand that he was about to ruin the rest of his life anyway by murdering his parents.
Right?! Imagine if he'd just put that effort into really doing something?
Probably a saint for the "let it rot" movement.
They wouldn't. This is far too much work for a "dead beat".
All the elaborate accounts, characters, phones, and then killing them and disposing of their bodies would've been a lot of work, just imagine the effort of hacking an adult into pieces, then another, then sitting by a fire for days slowly trying to burn them up... He's obviously emotionally dead, but it's still a tremendous amount of work.
So he definitely didn't do it to be a slacker. He must have some very serious mental deficiency like psychosis or schizophrenia.
It's nothing like a normal person who decided to do this for some perceived gain. He's not that human.
No kidding, something that could have been rectified so simply turned into this senseless murder of your parents. And it sounds like they would have been happy if he just would have went and got a job at 7-Eleven. Thanks for your great comment 😊
The saddest thing about this is knowing his parents would've helped him to the utmost even after lying all those years
The kid was a loser. His parents would not have helped him to the extent of supporting him the rest of his life while he played video games. So I suppose he killed them thinking he could keep the house and maybe get some insurance money.
@@gooddoggo3547 if the parents were really that great, he wouldn’t be such a terrible loser to begin with.. so no
@@mantecastotch4260 - What an awful thing to say. What sewer did you crawl out of?
@@dantegood2195 your mama room. It was pretty trash I can’t lie
@@mantecastotch4260 I don't agree with you
God..the length that some people will go to avoid being a responsible adult is absolutely incomprehensible. Truly fascinating stuff.
It would have been easier to graduate college than keep up this web of lies.
It gets to a point when you follow multiple true crime channels you hear of the same cases, yet any time you tell a story I’ve heard or know the outcome of it’s like I’m hearing it for the first time all over again and it’s incredible. So much talent and enthusiasm, us strange dark and mysterious folk sure appreciate you!
Yes! A few weeks ago I watched the video where he was talking about a strange kid at a prom and eating cheeseburgers, and some weird happenings at his apartment a couple of years later… my brain recognised the story and thought oh this sounds like a Dahmer copycat. No, he was actually talking about Dahmer but the way he told it had me convinced until the last minute it was a copycat lol. MrBallen is very good at weaving the details into a cohesive engaging story form.
Watch the trial the work the on this case is incredible.
I've noticed a few stories that were the same as well but can never really tell til the end
Amen
I totally agree, same here! I spend sooo much time watching true crime stuff, and I’ve watched videos on this case before but its always like hearing it for the first time until the very end!
First ten minutes: “Poor Chandler, that’s horrible!”
By the 25 minute mark: “Hey wait a minute”
"Chandler then took out a rifle he had hidden by the front door..."
Me: Wait what?
Him and his girlfriend's entire interrogations are available on TH-cam. I felt bad for his girlfriend.
Took you a while
mr ballen is a master of getting us wrapped up in the story and the twists
I was thinking Chandler stood out as 'odd' in his photos.
Making all of those emails and keeping up with all of those lies sounds like way more work than just getting a job
Man’s just wanted to play a bit of video games innit
yeah... same with gangs. Those f**kwits run about doing all kind of bs and then get killed at a young age in a violent shoot-out: when most janitors will have a long life with millions in the bank.
and doing well in school
but he got to WFH, doubt spaceX would let him
Right!! Like all that creative stuff he did just to lie could have been put to good use on a amazing job. BUT NNOOOOO
I used to know someone like this. They constantly showed this kid of behavior showing no sympathy or emotion, constantly needing attention and lying about everything they did. They attempted to take over my life, acting and dressing exactly like me. He even tried to steal my SO which of course backfired. Safe to say I avoid him at all costs. You never know when a sociopath will snap.
This story made me gasp out loud several times. People who live double lives are the most selfish individuals. Imagine spreading the body parts of your parents around town and then pretending to be concerned for them... Wow.
You really need to research cte research on the brain. Funnily enough it makes you commit actions you wouldn't usually do.
@@Micfri300 I am familiar with CTE, but Chandler had been living a double life long before his supposed injury.
@@notthegoodgirl look up the chris benoit murder case. Cte is a thing and both cases are strikingly familiar. Injuries to the brain are something that you wouldn't want to wish unto your worst enemy.
jah that is an insane amount of lying, only ever lying.. so crazy
talking about cte though kids get whacks to the head all the time, can't be good during developmental period
Lowest of the low. It's bad enough to do that with anyone but to your own parents you need to don't have a soul at all.
Your storytelling has turned every single one of my hikes into life-threatening excursions filled with wrong turns, murderers and cougars. Thanks a lot, dude.
What kind of cougars? The animals or the women?
@@brandontaylor6677 - Cougars are felines. Women are not "cougars." They are human beings.
I used to say I was always worried I’d end up on an episode of dateline, now I say I’m worried I’ll end up on an episode of Mr Ballen lol
@@rtphotos4691 You maybe wanna inform yoursef about what he was actually saying.
You still hike after Ballen? You're very brave. 😆
I LOVE how you tell the stories from everyone's points of views, telling the lies as part of the truth. So we don't know the truth until the end!!!! You are the BEST story teller on TH-cam!!!!
Major psychopathy happening here. Completely devoid of emotion and yet able to string together complex lies. Yikes.
If he put as much energy in to making a life for himself as he did covering up his lies he would of made something of himself. Such a waste of lives for no good reason.
This story was so well executed it had my attention on every word. Great talent Mr Ballen!
psychotic people and people with mental illiness sometimes do not function well in society
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@@SonicXisCanon bad cop-out.
@ Drew so besides giving up, what's your solution then?? It comes across like that's what your saying.
@@SonicXisCanon Just because there's a chance of something bad happening or someone doing something bad to you, doesn't mean you just give up on life.
Unless you live off grid, away from people, in a nice secluded part of the world, which actually appeals to me and a lot of other people, you are just going to be full of negativity all the time and that's worse than what you're going to feel, from being shit on by someone.
Basically, life has it's great life affirming moments and it has it's soul destroying moments and they're going to happen, no matter what. Once you understand and accept that, its a little easier. Good luck, man.
I remember hearing this story before.
I'll never get how anyone can ever feel okay with murdering someone let alone their own family that has cared for them their whole life.
The familicide cases really bother me more than the regular random murders. It's basically taking selfishness, entitlement and back-stabbing to the most extreme.
Murdering your own parents is sick. On a whole other level
Your right, it’s sick to go after your own family. All murder is grotesque but there’s a particular perversion to kill those who gave you life and helped to sustain you when you were vulnerable as a baby and child.
I can't get past the horror of dismemberment, let alone the relationship with the victim. I find it alarming the number of people who appear to be capable of doing something like that.
I have heard and re-heard most of these stories. I think that with 6.5 million subscribers, our beloved Mr. Ballen would think that we are smart enough to know that we remember the stories that he keeps telling over and over again. Nobody tells a story well enough to make me want to hear it recounted so many times that I can say, “NOT AGAIN!
You know. . .something like this has got me wondering about someone that I went to HS with. His mother was super sweet and open-minded. The last time that I saw her was when I was working and she came into the store to buy some new shoes(Payless). A few years later her bones were found(dumped) outside of Fiesta Texas Six Flags. The weirdest thing about him was that her death is highly questionable. He landed up living at home and helping his mom out because his dad left him and his brother to care for her; regardless something isn't right about the whole story. He also had is aggressive girlfriend move into the house, though his description of her was that she demanded she was to move in. I dunno the rest. . .but from what I remember. . .Body Language has "tell-tell signs".
I'm terrified of having kids...even if you do the best you can...you can't control who that person will become. It's scary.
Compassion is the key ingredient for raising children. You have to teach them compassion by the time they're 8 years old. Having a consistent routine and at least one person in their corner is also essential and minimizing trauma as much as is possible. The one thing you can't really control is if they are born with psychopathy and there are ways to tell early on and there are psychologists and psychiatrists that can help the child not turn into a criminal - but psychopathy is pretty rare. Odds are you will not have a child with psychopathy which is basically a type of brain damage/disorder they are born with.
@@litehold1144 have to get it pretty early of course, because sociopaths lack the natural empathy that all social animals (like rats and humans) have
I’d say that his parents created this monster- it’s unfortunate but true that all of their actions & inactions throughout his life whether early life trauma or what but their raising of him led to their son using them until he couldn’t use them anymore. The nail in the coffin was the shame of them finding out he’s a deadbeat all this time, which most likely sent their son into a manic survival mode & instead of owning up to his lies- he decided to throw his parents (which were merely a means to an end) to the side (by killing them) & instead of facing the now, ultra shame- he decided to do what he does best- & that’s to continue the lying & keep his facade going as long as possible. I’m not an expert- this is only my analysis from the story.
As long as your children understand that nothing is as valuable as life then they should turn out fine. Sadly, Capitalism teaches them otherwise
There's nothing more frightening than having children, and yet it will be the biggest, most fulfilling thing you'll ever do. Sounds like a cliche, but it's entirely true
It always blows my mind how much effort people will put into doing horrible things like this instead of just finding a decent job.
As a PARENT, This type of thing just scares the crap out of me! To think the precious baby you poured all your love into, could turn into a MONSTER that murders you, dismembers you, and just go on like NOTHING is wrong! Its mind-blowing!
Great Job telling this story John! You are truly the BEST story teller in the WORLD!!!
Yeah it's sick. Craazy!
It’s terrifying right?? I can’t even imagine! How ??
Horrific
@@hellsbelle7533 The kid was on drugs.
@@COlson-rh3dg Have any proof? Because he had to be on something, or just had mental issues to begin with.
*Chandler is just one of those people who puts all their effort and energy into **_not_** having to do things/work. While ironically putting in even more effort to avoid having to do whatever, rather than just simply doing it.*
*The type of person that would rather die (or kill) than have someone tell them how they should live their life.*
Thank you! That's what made me so mad. He had all this energy to make fake emails and stuff, you could've put all that planning into getting a job.
You don't know chandler. I know chandler.
@@barneyronnie go find the nearest high building, go to the roof, get a running start and.......jump.👍
He’s living the Cush life in prison. Gets fed. Doesn’t have to work. It’s like his dream come true
@@camilleshearon5120 maybe, maybe not, he definitely can’t sit and play video games all day anymore and now there’s big black dudes that will rape him so lol
This case literally takes the "in order to hide one lie you have to say a thousand" to a whole new dimension. Also the parents did not deserve to die.
A web of lies
Who would think they did?
wouldn't it be better to hide a thousand lies with one lie?
@@callumkristofer7793 apparently, a few people here do. At least, they think the parents were negligent and/or abusive
This is the craziest story that I’ve heard from Mr. Ballen. The absolute insanity of what this kid did for no apparent reason other than he wanted to be lazy. It’s just so sickening..
Man, I really gotta give you credit.
I watch so much True Crime stuff on YT that there usually ends up being some overlap in stories told by other accounts, but you do such a great job at fleshing out backstory details that totally go untouched on by other channels. Even if I’ve heard the story before, I still stay through because you always introduce some other detail that I never heard before.
Great work.
Thank you!
SAME lol I will watch him and Stephanie Soo tell ones I already know and eve Bailey Sarian. I've watched and heard everything to do with John Wayne Gacy yet Bailey said so much I've neverrrr heard it's crazy.
Loll what?? He copies other channels word for word. They all copy eachother and then post the same story within the day
@@eliassanchez420wakenbake I mean yeah everyone copies others it all depends on the information you can get and what is hot in the moment. Kurt Cobain spoke of this. But MrBallen has great delivery I will say
@@FabledHero mrballen is cool, he just speaks slow and dumbs it down a bit. Feel like I can do a better job audio wise
The full trial is on YT. The way they proved what times he was burning them in the fireplace was based on a neighbors camera. It's barely a few pixels wide, but they matched the window from the fireplace room frame by frame that night and you can see the fire build up, and die, and build up again and then burn out of control before going out. That's when the fireplace glass shattered. Their fat cells were rendering out and having fans blowing in caused an "oven fire" or "grease fire". He tried to throw water on it but we all know what happens when you throw water on a grease fire.
He was proven guilty more detailed than anyone else I have ever seen. Day by day and hour by hour for a whole week he left evidence EVERYWHERE.
So... what is your opinion on the conspiracy theory (joke really) that Chandler ate his parents?
He was absolutely one of the dumbest people I’ve ever witnessed~ let alone trying to cover up a double homicide!
I feel so sad for his brother, ex-girlfriend & extended family.
Some people question Bart & Christa’s parenting. I honestly believe they were loving, caring, supportive parents. Perhaps naive and a little too soft, but in no way abusive.
And considering Kat’s testimony, I don’t think she had ANYTHING to do with it or knew about it, no matter how many people may think she did.
@@VenraeLOL People think that?! Wow! 😳🤯🤢
I’ve watched quite a few videos about the murders & trial but I’ve never heard that.
I doubt it, BUT, tbh, considering the horrific things that he did, it wouldn’t surprise me. 🤷🏻♀️
Thank you John for sharing these pieces
@@VenraeLOL I’m still convinced he took a nibble and that his girlfriend was in on it. No prosecutor will spend 2-3 minutes saying how you didn’t know anything and had nothing to do with it unless you actually did.
I live in DeForest and covered this story on a podcast earlier this year. You did such an amazing job structuring the story! I've heard other people tell the story on various podcasts and almost everyone got things wrong. I watched the whole trial- twice! And you nailed everything while leaving out the right unnecessary details. Perfect storytelling as usual.
Dean County did an absolutely _outstanding_ job with this trial and that prosecutor is such a good storyteller, himself!
me when I heard "deforest"-
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its now 4am and I live in madison. guess im not sleeping tonight after this. aha
What are you talking about? He left out SO MUCH. He didn’t even mention the farm or cress. And the fact that the parade was on the 3rd was something chandler had actually pointed out to the police. It did NOT break the case open. What broke the case open was the farm and Cress telling police about his weird visit. This has to be a fake comment, it couldn’t be more wrong
Thumbs up for Mr. Ballen
It was soo devastating to see this case from "the unaware girlfriends" perspective,she seemed really supportive,like she was still in denial after he got locked up,but awhile after she completely cut him off from her life. I heard from another channel that she apparently got herself a dog,but she has gone into complete "hiding" from social medias,wich i totally understand. She is soo sweet,i hope she manages to recover,move on and become the happy,bubbly and energetic,positive young woman she was before all this. She will probably not trust another guy again just like that,poor thing. But with time hopefully.
This guy seemed soo harmless at first,but oh man......the personality once his guard was down,and all the evidence pointed towards him. Gave me the chills.
This is a crazy story, I've had cousins that lied about going to college. Which probably happens more often than most think. But this kid took it to the next level, he deserves everything he will endure for the rest of his life.
I know people who lied to their family that they work after they got fired. Get up and leave every morning as if they still work. But this is mainly because they fear he will lose his family's respect when they found out.
Guaranteed he’s someone’s gf at some point
There is very little help in America for people suffering from mental illnesses, including severe anxiety. Why do you think he did this? Poor self-esteem and anxiety.
@@mannylugz5872 Exactly! It's an esteem/self-esteem issue. Americans invest too much in the idea of success.
@@oneoflokis There's also negativity against individuals that have mental issues. Or lack of empathy or understanding.
The moment i heard "Halderson" my heart sank. This case has always messed me up, Bart and Krista never deserved this. Neither did Mitchell or Kat
Proof that you can have good parents but be evil all on your own.
I love the way you tell this story from Chandler's irrational alibi. It really illustrates how implausible his story and how delusional a person he was.
Was plausible enough to fool everyone in his life for a while. Sounds crazy after the fact.
Yes ... the volunteer scuba police diver thing sounded totally fake 🤔but Mr Ballen charged ahead with such a good story that i dismissed my disbelief 🥴
@@j3suisd3 that and the spacex job offer definitely seem like fantasy fodder, but presumably some real ppl do those things so why not some rando from a small town, i guess....
How is it possible children can be so cruel to their parents who have loved and supported them their entire lives…….it is inconceivable 😢
NPD - narcissist personality disorder. My only child has it and I worry about the future.
I can't imagine how the brother must feel. All of a sudden his entire family is gone and it's his brothers fault. It really makes you believe that some people, no matter how loved and well cared for, are just evil at their core.
Yo! Spoiler alert!
SELFISH, LAZY, and SPOILED. Makes delusional TRASH feel entitled.
Of course!!! It is a combination of the usual suspects genetics and birth to 3 yr.old environment. Parent, nursery school teachers and community members recognize something off with a toddler need to let someone know.Early intervention sometimes makes a difference. This the main reason I find “family secrets” so toxic and dangerous.I often wonder what percentage of Ancestry, DNA generational family trees have identified a family relation in the last 7-15 generations do not find someone with serious problem. To me it does add up.
Kudos ‘Jonathan’!Very creative idea, beautiful execution. we could emphasize with what his parents and brother felt when they realized the truth, because we , as your audience,w a smaller degree, but the same
I didn't even think about that. I wonder how the brother is doing now? I wonder if he communicates with him in prison. I personally think it's better to forgive (for ones own self) then to harbor all the negative feelings that go along with resentment and hate. Just curious.
@@dansweda712 Why are you reading comments before watching
This has to be one of the most ridiculous true crime stories I've ever heard. It's very sad I feel so sad thinking about the mom happily going to get soda for her brat son not knowing how evil he was. Even after all his lies she bent over backwards for him. Like dude your motive was..emarrassment? The thought of actually having to WORK or use your brain?
the poor Mom and grabbing the soda on the way home from WORK thing really made me feel so sad!!!!! Like Dayum, can it get more cold than this!?? hmmm me thinks not! I am just surprised there isn't a movie about this
@@lacticacidtrip if there isn't yet, there will be!
This and Chris Watts...absolutely pointless
There was also the matter of around $1,000,000 in inheritance. Mitchell is lucky, if you call the murder and dismemberment of his parents at the hands of his brother lucky, that he wasn’t living with them at the time. I have no trouble believing Chandler would have killed him too.
Honestly... Why kill others because you screwed up your own life. So malicious... Most would take their own lives, not their innocent family members
Knowing that the first half of the story was Chandler's fallacy the entire time made listening to it even harder. I really feel for his family, Bart and Krista truly loved him and only wanted the best for him. I still can't believe people will go _this far_ to protect lies. I'd much rather be known as a liar than a murderer, I don't get the logic.
Psychopath don't think like normal people. They don't feel like normal people. Look it up. He is a dumb one. Just fooled his parents wich loved him. Other psychopath run whole countries and smash them. Like it is happening now.
I had to skip ahead on the buildup
I was over here like im 28 wish I was doing that good in life i guess I truely am
Well, he was stupid enough that he thought he would get away with the murder because everyone would just think his mom and dad disappeared on their visit up to their lake house. Therefore no one would know he was a murderer AND no one would know he was a liar because he killed his dad who he was sure was the only person who knew he was a liar. So he would be known as neither. He would just be this super neat, super smart, super successful person he pretended to be.
@@mazdaspeedg2380 This was the come up we needed
This case is a perfect example of why you cannot always 'blame the parents' when their child goes bad.
Raised the right way or the wrong way, an adult is fully responsible for his actions. My opinion.
@@Packarooit takes an adult raised in a loving, nurturing environment to accept responsibility for their actions instead of being a victim and expecting to be treated differently because of trauma or other factors. I completely agree with your point ✌🏻🫶🏻🫡
Some people are born with a kink and no amount of nurturing will change them.
I watched the trial and it was heartbreaking to watch Kat and Chandlers brother testify about how the parents were such great people. Kat cared more about his parents than he ever did. The sad part is that his parents would have been upset and hurt because he lied to them for years, but they would have forgave him for all of it if he would’ve taken steps to better himself. They really loved him, they were discovering he was a liar, but neither of his parents would have thought for a second he was capable of killing them.
Very well said!
This is the kind of person that results from parents not making their kids suffer the natural and logical consequences of their mistakes, and not raising them with regular church (or temple for Jews) worship and not holding their kids to strict, high morals as an imperative.
Nobody would ever think their child was capable of killing them.
@@kayceetaylor2151 raising your child with church does not automatically make them incapable of murder.
There have been clergy and children of clergy who have killed.
So raising your children without church has nothing to do with it.
@@kayceetaylor2151 I’m not gonna criticize their parenting, they are deceased. They loved their kids, they did their job as parents. Everyone who testified had nothing but good things to say about them. The last thing their other son Mitchel needs is to come across people criticizing his deceased parents on the internet. They had 2 boys, they were raised the same way and were very close in age. Mitchel didn’t turn out the way his brother Chandler did. He graduated from college, had a job, had moved out to live with his fiancée and was very self sufficient. He was thriving. Chandler had every opportunity his brother did, he just wasn’t interested in bettering himself, he used all his time and energy lying to everyone. We can’t always blame the parents, some people are just born evil.
I think my favorite thing about his storytelling is that he can take a story I've already heard from other true crime channels and turn it into something new. Love your style, Mr. B
Yeah; I just heard this story yesterday (!), told by Mike of That Chapter, and yet I didn't recognize it until 16:30 or smth - MrBallen's point of view was Soooo different. What I love about you, both of the dudes, is that you both are really superb in different styles. Keep on going, guys!Raoul, from Estonia
I totally agree! I’ve heard and read about this from a few different places and I didn’t realize this was the same story until about 12:30 into it. Ballen includes a lot of first hand accounts, points of views, and details and thoughts of the people in the stories that no other place has. I don’t know where he gets these tidbits of info that no one else includes but it definitely makes for a much better version of the story!! ❤️
Kimbyrleigha has a three part deep dive on this case which totals about 6 hours. Incredible story the six hours will disappear in a flash. This case brought me back to true crime, but I still watched the whole Mr Ballen video.
The worst thing about Mr Ballen is that he doesn't do enough stories! He is so goooood!
Obviously there are hundreds to catch up on!
Haha hes putting the graft in credit due
He used to put out 3 a week, now only one. Sometimes I get MrBallen withdrawals.
@@jamescook6564 hes got a little kid i get the priorities! What i laughed at in the past was one advert would be for mental health the next followed by like some burger advert
If he did more, it'd probably stand to reason that there are more stories to tell. Which would lead to the inescapable conclusion that the world would have to be a worse place.
Personally, I'd be inclined to blame the Like button. 😛
Crazy that I’ve heard this story so many times but it took til 23 minutes in for me to recognise it. That’s story telling! Never heard it from this perspective before. Absolutely brilliant
The image of the poor mum walking into her beautiful home she and her husband made, expecting to see her adoring husband and son waiting for her, only to be shot dead by one of her children in cold blood had me shedding tears. Neither she or Bart deserved this.
It’s so sad that her last memory of being on this earth is being killed by her own child
Talk about betrayal
@@CameronBishop3400 I really hope she never saw him & that he came up from behind... and I hope that piece of trash sees them every night in his sleep and all day, every day, in just the same way they looked after he'd cut them up, I hope he never has a moment's peace.
Imagine being so worthless & lazy that you get caught deceiving two good parents for over 4 years & you think you MIGHT, just MIGHT get kicked out (at 23 dang years old!!) so your solution is to murder the only 2 people who care about you, who love you...and when your murdering them will only mean you'll still end up homeless within a few months when the mortgage & bills are not paid (by the people who did work and pay those bills) because you mercilessly and ignorantly killed them??
No wonder he couldn't pass one semester of college, he's a total ingrate & moron without aconscience. He knew he'd stolen thousands of dollars from his parents, telling them he was going to college & stealing the tuition money they gave him; to just sit on his butt doing nothing..
This case is particularly tragic! The need to constantly lie to avoid embarrassment and responsibility is just unbelievable. How narcissistic and deranged do you have to be to resort to murder to cover up your lies?? Great job as always Mr. Ballen!!
I was thinking that too. Why did Chandler feel like he had to lie to his parents and why did he go to such great lengths to continue his lies?!? I'm also curious why his Dad felt the best way to confront his son after discovering he didn't go to school was to back him into a corner for a public humiliation at the school. It just all seems like such a weird family dynamic. I'm sure there is more to the story that had been building for years but what exactly?!? I'm just a curious person wondering about the details. 🤔
@@TheOfficialTarynTots Dude is clearly a psychopath. Lies, manipulation and over the top schemes rather than just going to school and getting a damn job lol. Backed into a corner, he ended up killing both his parents and dismembering their bodies?? Crazy stuff.
thing is this happens way too often, MB has a couple that turn out this way, spoiled brats.
I honestly wonder if he has narcissistic personality disorder. So convinced of his greatness even the thought of not being great is unbearable so he has to fabricate greatness and to expose it as a fabrication, unbearable.
@@nostalgicbliss5547 Oh, I wasn't defending him in anyway. I was just curious about the family dynamics leading up to that point. I didn't mean for it to sound that way if that is how you took it.
My fiancé worked for the same company as Krista, and I remember him telling me about how people were starting to worry that she wasn’t showing up for work. I was horrified when they figured out what happened. I never would have thought something like this could happen so close to home. Absolutely devastating
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@@funnyfack9854 why
Riiiiiiight…
We won! Yeah, no.
Well, it always happens close to someone’s home. It’s crazy how many people are murdered. I knew two people who ended up murdered (separate incidents) and I knew of two other people who were murdered who were brothers of extended family through marriage. Just today, I was thinking about how when something bad happens, people say they thought it was something that happened to other people. What does that even mean? Other people are us, and we are other people. We’re all “other people” to most people.
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Please don’t believe in witchcraft Deuteronomy 18:9-12, Exodus 22:18, 1 Samuel 15:23, Leviticus 20:27, Leviticus 19:31, Isaiah 8:19-20
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Lastly don’t say God’s name in vain it or blaspheme it means your saying his name has no meaning please say Oh my gosh
Lastly don’t Hold grudges God forgave you so we must forgive other as he forgives us
I swear every time I listen to one of your stories, I realize it's a story I've already heard before, sometimes more than once. I can't tell exactly what the story is until near the end because you tell the story so differently and so well. You are an amazing story teller and I am HERE FOR IT! AYYYYYYYYY!!!! Lololol keep it up! I listen to your podcast too!
Seeing Bart in that "Incredible Dad" shirt, smiling really broke my heart. It humanized him even more for me. Even when you accept the reality of death and it's inevitability it's so hard to truly *accept* that someone is dead when your staring at a picture of them happy and innocent.
Also seeing Krista's text. Informal and happy.
It would be easier to believe they were murderers or killed by a stranger. But murdered by their own son with no warning? Truly my brain refuses to grasp it.
They were just like us. Living life day-to-day and it all abruptly stopped by someone who they raised and supported and trusted. It's that easy to die. I know this but my brain just refuses to grasp it.
💯 literally no words 😞💔
I feel that same way. I’ll just never understand it 😞
Agreed 💯
First- that is an incredibly horrible way to die.
Second- my heart breaks for the surviving brother. How in the world he was/is able to process this tragedy is beyond me.
Heartbreaking all the way around.
As a writer I have to say that the way you structure the stories to make them transparent and easy to follow is impressive.
I've heard this story before, but no one tells it better than Mr. Ballen. You are a master story-teller, sir!!!!
Amen there brother, uniquely & sincerely naturally gifted.
@Major Penile fucking what lmao when does he say Japanese people are evil? And words get lost in translation, it's not that deep bro
@Major Penile
i ain't reading all that
i'm happy for you tho
or sorry that happened
@@sonofbattles omg that was a brilliant response 🤣🙊
@@sonofbattles i read it, be glad you didn't! It was a rant for 0 reason and didn't make alot of sense. Ballen is awesome, that dude can kick rocks!
You have the gift for storytelling. Enjoy your episodes very much. And thanks for not cussing 😂.
I've lied to my parents before but this is beyond extreme. Then kill and dismember his parents because he was caught in a lie is beyond insane. Wow...just wow.
Spoiler alert lol
We’ll thanks for ruining it
😂😂😂
"they don't raise em like they used too"
@@domnotabum818 dont go to comments if you dont want spoilers
Chandler’s parents sound like amazing people. Not many kids have such supportive parents like them. They all didn’t deserve this to happen to them
He truly must be crazy, killing his own parents, and she was happy to buy him a soda, sending a smiley face, completely unknowing, and then being shot when you enter the house, is truly horrible.
As a Wisconsin resident, this is a case I’m very familiar with. Hearing a Mr. Ballen spin on the events was a treat; this whole story was bonkers. That poor family.
As a fellow wisconsinite I have never heard of this terrible crime
I was actually born in Madison and this is the first time I’ve heard this story
Im actually from deforest and I remember hearing about this case and being so freaked out. Like I was terrified hearing it all play out.
@@rowan666 my friend is from defo, he once when to the house to ask if he could fish their pond. nobody was home.
@@RaidifyLifts Yeah, it's so freaky to know I was just a short walk from a murderer.
This is the fourth case I've heard where someone killed their parents because they flunked out of college and didn't want to tell them.
Why is this a thing.
@Angelofdusk13 It's not just kids killing their parents It's anyone who has constructed a complete web of lies about their life and doesn't want it to be revealed. Lots of times it's a husband who ends up killing the wife and the whole family because he's created a web of lies. These pathological liars are also cowards and often turn violent when it's revealed because they don't want to admit it. The parents definitely should not have spoiled Chandler but this is all on him.
liberty gets it
I just want to say I appreciate your acknowledgment that not all your viewers/ listeners are from the US and you take a few seconds to explain something that might not be obvious to foreigners like me , so that I don’t have to pause the vid and check. Yes in this case I do know what July 4th is , but I’ve seen in different videos you explaining American custom stuff on the side which I forgot to thank for so - great job, awesome storytelling, amazing channel❤️ Thanks!
#BoycottBallenTheLiar #AskMeWhy... Also reporting your videos for false info. Go check his Spotify story descriptions he admits that he doesn't always fact check and if he doesn't know something he just makes it up. Y'all really want someone just lying to you? There are better creators out there that tell these same stories without the lies and manipulation. They also don't have mommy write their script
He's not amazing like you think
@@Unethical_Ethical_HackTips doesn't say that anywhere in his spotify...
I thought the exact same thing. He also does that with units of measure (distance, height, etc). Very thoughtful of him.
I don't believe you on this at all. I think you have things way off. For one, he has no motive to lie. I don't know who you were interacting with, but it wasn't MrBallen. Also, he writes the scripts for all his TH-cam videos, and his mother writes the scripts of his podcasts. Half of those podcasts, though, are retellings of videos he's already made, so those must be somewhat easier to do. My thinking is that it's great that he and his mother get along so well, to want to tell these stories. I am starting to learn Spanish, and look forward to watching the videos on his Spanish channel! No, I don't believe he's a liar. I think you're one, though! Maybe you aren't aware of it, but you are telling some whoppers, and you can just quit!
If I hadn’t already heard this case I would have felt bad for Chandler, Mr B.Allen is so good at telling stories that even though I already knew what was going to happen I was on the edge of my seat the entire video
Me, too. In fact, I was feeling sick long before John exposed the truth about Chandler.
I know what you mean. Anytime he does a story I've heard before I always listen just to hear his take on the story. He's an amazing storyteller
Yep, me too. This is crazy.
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My thoughts exactly
The hard realization is that when you're binge watching MrBallen episodes and you realized you have consumed almost every single of his content. Loving every single of your episode and really hoping you can release more MrBallen!
Your fans from Malaysia!
I love the way you told this story , it humanizes him in a way then you just drop the plot twist
Matt Orchard of CS covered this story in a JCS style documentary. Mr Ballen does an amazing job of retelling it from the perspective of those who didn't immediately know about Chandler's evil lies. Both are very different and yet equally very compelling approaches to the same horrific tragedy.
I was just thinking that "has he not already made a video about this?", but I guess I remember it from watching the CS video about this case.
Thought is seemed familiar but told so differently had me second guessing my own memory lol
Ooo Matt Orchard is one of the best JCS copycats, thanks. Love him and EWU.
Mr. Ballen has this beautiful performative style of relaying seemingly innocuous details of every crime/weird event he covers, making each video so very compelling and fascinating. Axis, I'm so glad you brought up Matt Orchard because he is so underrated, his crime/controversial subject documentaries are riveting and his narration/style of storytelling is truly unmatched in the vast TH-cam true crime content community. He's so good at dissecting a person's motives and and their decisions leading up to something tragic or controversial from EVERY angle, and furthermore, I appreciate how he always asks us as the audience well-thought-out questions and points of skepticism we may never have thought to ask ourselves, even those of us already familiar with some of the infamous stories he covers. I love how engaged and engrossed i get with each video. His weird cult video was soooo good, i couldn't even be bothered to multi-task whilst watching it. My eyes were just glued on the video from start to finish.
Also IF you like Matt Orchard and Mr. Ballen, PLEASE do me a favor and check out the channel: "dreading (crime and psychology)". The narrator's voice takes a bit to warm up to, but his way of delivering his content and his acute observations on the crimes/stories/events he creates are just all gems, truly. He has this way of throwing in underhanded comments throughout his videos (he probably has an outline for his videos and then will remember, as he's telling the story, some offensive or horrid detail about the various vile criminals featured in his videos, and he'll suddenly say something along the lines of "What the f*ck" under his breath, referring to the criminal's motives or decision-making for example. There's nothing contrived about it. I cant really describe the "je ne sais quoi" appeal of his videos. They're just special, like Matt Orchard's. You won't regret it! A lot like Matt's, kind of, they're each unique in their own way.
Sorry guys for this ridiculously long unnecessary tangent.
I remember this now
This gives me chills. I’m a mother, and as sad as it is, cases like this is possible and it clearly happens. Probably why I’m cautious about everyone and my surroundings. Freaky
The Son clearly would have presented a Lot of red flags, early in his developing childhood. The parents clearly ignored his perpetual lies and manipulation games, and probably figured he might grow out of it... rather than having him diagnosed for a personality disorder.
A normal healthy person, does not do these types of things. This is a Mentally Ill radical, with Narcissistic personality Disorder. He was obsessed with "IMAGE", and was far too lazy, to be bothered to work hard to achieve his goals. His parents were infringing on his chosen lifestyle of being a bum... and so he did what the worst Narcissists would do: To exploit and end them.
Thing is... Narcissists may come off as being intelligent.. but they tend to lack any depth of common sense, and logical thinking. This is why they tend to end up getting caught. Look at Amber Heard's trial.. and you will see the same thing.
Females in general, are very cautious, and have greater (over-amplified) levels of emotional connection. Its part of the developed Biological traits... which are designed to connect deeper with their children, so that they do no just leave them when danger approaches. The obsessive nature over the environment, was also developed, to help prevent the children from getting sick or injured. As such, its in your very Genetics, to be cautious and careful.
I’m a father and I feel the same way. Specially my elder one shows very little gratitude or remorse.
Agree, these people who die deserve it. Why deserve? You know what naturals selection is. When nature goes bad it will destroy itself in some ways. Well this ignorance and this blind faith parents had even while doubting still turning your back, letting someone you doubt live in your house. Then you have it coming for you.
If his father had done more before this, and did actions to seperate him out of doubt until he shows proof of some then this could maybe been avoided. and if it still happened then it would be tragic. But this is deserved. Ignorance comes with a price. Sometimes that means your life. Never be ignorant.
I have 3 kids. Should I be triple paranoid about it now 😂😂😂
I'm going to kick them all out of the house because maybe one day they are going to kill me 😏😏😏
@@saipawankumar5297 oh man that is very unfortunate! That must be hard to admit. I wonder if therapy would help
Man as a mother, this story is terrifying. I just couldn't even imagine, the child you think you know and love, turning on you and doing such an unthinkable act. It's scary. My prayers go out to the brother and the rest of the family. John, thanks for all of your hard work. Been watching since day 1. And love your videos. My favorite storyteller on TH-cam. ♥️
The thing is you don’t know how he was raised. Sounds like he was a spoiled brat and his parents spoiled him and never had authority over him
You should be fine with this level of evil, I mean your pfp is a Commie logo.
It's nice he doesn't cuss! So refreshing!
As a Parent I agree
That's ok... as a son I couldn't even imagine turning on my Mother or Father and doing such an unthinkable act. Though I had a Brother who threatened to do just that. He threatened to Kill us all, all but our other Brother--whom he claimed to have loved--yet he killed HIS son. He was pure evil, and spent his life in and out of Prisons. He died from injuries sustained in Prison--injuries from the Guards, who he was beating to a pulp at the time. (It took 20 of them to subdue him) He died several years after my Parents had died (from cancer). They had lived to the age of 80, my brother made it to nearly 58. So imagine me trying to figure out just how this evil spawn could threaten all of us... and actually kill several others including his OWN (20 year old) NEPHEW over the course of 58 years. I'm still baffled at how someone could be so evil.
If this guy would have put that much dedication to college or a carreer, he'd be the richest man in the world
I watched the trial on this. What a sad story, I can’t believe he kept up with all his lies. He could of come clean and take responsibility. Now his life is completely over. RIP to both of these amazing parents.. to know your baby is the one to kill you. I could not even imagine what they were feeling. 😥☹️
Also, I feel really bad for his brother. Lost his entire family.
I hope it was quick and they didn't see who did it.
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Yeah that is a LOT of lies to keep track of. However if you're not working or doing anything with your life it's likely not as hard as we might think to be able to keep track of all the lies and what not. Hell part of his time he spent "working at home" could have been him reflecting/taking notes on his lies to make sure he always had his story straight. The guy just looks like a slippery dirt bag at first glance honestly. What a terrible thing to do though... your family are the only people you can ever really depend on throughout all the changes in your life as friends come and go... so for him to destroy that aspect of his life to protect a lie rather than let them help him get his life together (after a huge argument of course and having to feel feelings of having let everyone down) and have a shot at a decent future just goes to show how unintelligent and selfish this guy truly is. I truly hope he never gets out of prison. People like that have no place in society and I think it's pretty much impossible for someone like him to ever redeem themselves.
me too. I still believe his innocence
One of the most disturbing cases I've come across. That delusional freak literally felt more convenience in killing his own mom and dad than owning up the mess of his own creation. No wonder he, even after getting caught and proven to be guilty, hasn't owned up to his crimes.
And kuddos to your storytelling, sir. You are the best storytellers I know.
The mess is not entirely his fault though. Americans really think the white picket fence suburbia is still the perfect life to live. I'm pretty sure they played a huge part in their son's failed life.
@ Drew That is the most ridiculous excuse. Get out of jail free cards anyone??? How old are you 12??
@@SonicXisCanon Well now it seems as if you Drew may have some of what was inside Chandler inside of you.. Do your Parents know that you harbor these feelings or think this way Drew, your brothers or sisters anyone in your Family ? Because, to be Completely Honest with you, that is Far From the Normal way of looking at this situation. Maybe be proactive here Drew and think about this and the way you might see other terrible outcomes of situations. It may be a Great decision to talk to a professional! Just Sayn..
@@georgemanize And as for you CrueShader.. That Mess Was Absolutely All Chandlers Creation Fault And Doing !! It's Now Remove Head From Ass Time !! @Crue and Drew I can Only Imagine Two separate yet equally Stupid Pre-Pubecent Boy's/Children typing feverishly on their Keyboards desperately needing to get their Most Dipshit of Thoughts about the Real Issues going on With This Family's Dynamics in this comment thread n to make it sound as if it's the Truth..And it's The Truth coming from a Mature Man who thought it thru yet were Denied Simply Because They Are Only Kids w/o a Stitch of Common Sense !!!
@@georgemanize there was nothing that suggested the parents were, in any way, responsible for that kid's failure. From what we have been told in this video, the parents loved their kids and cared a lot about their family. They tried their very best to provide the kids with everything they could have possibly needed to grow. The elder kid turned out to be a responsible man whereas the younger one turned out to be someone pathetic who literally lived two lives. Lied about going to college, lied about graduating from college, lied about working in an insurance company, lied about getting a job from SpaceX, lied about getting a life threatening injury. Let's be honest, that dude was a freak.
This is perhaps one of the saddest of all the stories you've presented. That poor boy Mitchell.
As a parent you try to do everything for your kids, try to get them to understand what unconditional love really is. For it to end up like THIS....truly tragic.
agree.. it is very sad for Mitchell. Finding out he lost both parents due to his brother. Basically he lost all his immediate family in an instant.
I would have loved parents like them.
This is that moment where you realize. Youve watched all of mr. Ballen's content and are on the second loop. 😅
My cousin did the same. Kept saying he made it into medical school like his sister. My aunt was so proud that her son was going to be a doctor. Paid his tuition (at great cost to herself), paid his housing and whenever he came close to quitting she paid for vacations to Acapulco or Cancun to take his mind off of school.
In reality he was just lying the entire time. Thankfully when he got caught he just threw a tantrum.
Jesus Christ, a landmine would deal with pressure better than Chandler. It might have killed less people as well.
Lol it so crazy tht people do that I mean we all.want to impress our parents but people should learn to be themselves ur an adult do whatever u want if ur parents can't support tht so what it's not worth living a big lie smh lol ridiculous
I understand not wanting to disappoint your parents but where is the line drawn in this situation I mean maintaining a double life has got to be so stressful and exhausting.
I mean is your aunt willing to adopt someone willing to do the work?! lol I grew up in a poor family and have been working since i was 12 and full time since I was 15 started high school in senior classes but having to work I couldn’t do my homework. I wish I had the ability to just focus on my work! If only these people knew what they had! So sad! 😢
Miguel
Please don’t use the name of Jesus in vain. God bless you.
@Connie DeTevis What if he doesn't believe? Who's to say anything to him about the words he chooses?
I've heard this case a couple of times before, but this is the first time I've heard it told from the family's/police's perspective first. For me, it makes the story much more impactful this way.
That little smiley face on his mothers message, replying about the soda... That killed me. That tiny little thing made it feel all too real to me. My mother puts those on messages too.
i really couldnt agree more malady, i hardly have any feelings but when i saw that it pulled the little i have left right out of me, sad times we live in today and im scared to see the sad times to come in the future.
He's basically the male version of Jennifer's solution
Sure I would to if I'm making millions of dollars literally. For telling stories kidding me.
@@kjc1878 good sir i can assure you a higher percentage of his money goes to wounded veterans, deceased veterans and other charities that are associated with that topic then what he pockets, im not saying he isnt making good money but unlike the other 500k youtubers hes trying to make the world a better place for tomorrow, dont criticize this man for something as petty as money cuz im sure theres something more important u can put ur attention into right?
Yesss. Like I think this story is so messed up because it’s crazy relatable. Like those parents could be mine… they loved their children, my mom was and is kinda a hovering mom no matter old I am and my dad has always gone out of his way for me and the there for sure was a total fear of disappointing them so my brother did great and was also an Eagle Scout and I struggled and then got it it together. Neverrr in a million years could I imagine doing what this kid did and it’s just like scary and disconcerting and heartbreaking because he has the type of parents that would’ve been mad about his lies sure, but they would’ve gotten over it because they loved him but he couldn’t deal with disappointing them so he just murdered them and chopped them up… that’s messed up
I just could NEVER imagine harming my mother, even hurting her feelings would GUT me. How someone with a loving mother could do that is way beyond me.
Well, now Chandler can be as lazy as he wants as he rots in prison.... I can't imagine how sick a person has to be to not only kill but cut up their parent's corpses.... Dang 😳😬
yeah cut up and burn body parts is next level sinister
We can never even remotely think about killing someone, as normal thinking persons. But taking it t a step further, killing your own family which was your whole life kind and loving. But to add some more unbelievable steps forward: to cut them into pieces and burn them? He had no issues with his parents. They weren’t treating him bad so he must have a bad feeling about them. How can you do this? This must me an undetected psychopath. Sure his life was about to fall apart but he had the chance to do a restart. Loosing all the thrust but trying to make out a living, it wasn’t too late. But with his actions he truly destroyed his and his families life.
Well fuck. I read the comments too soon
Thats what entitlement does. Instead of admitting their incompetence and wrong doings, they'd rather blame it on someone or kill someone .
@@asmallhick Welcome in the Club! I „must“ always read while listening to the video, getting spoiled.
Went to school with Chaz in middle/early high school, considered us friends of sorts. Horrifying when I had heard what he’d done after being invested in his “missing” parents. Goes to show you don’t always know someone as well as you think you do.
*Been watching Mr.Ballen for awhile now, even watching this case firsthand and seeing it on my social media from a more personal aspect - Mr.Ballen’s storytelling does it so much justice! Will forever be a fan of his storytelling!
The brain is an organ and like other organs can become diseased and go awry. Except the sick brain makes people act out odd ways you would never expect from a diseased liver or kidney. I am not sure you can completely know someone and if you do you may not once their brain gets sick. Sad story.
It's not like his "true face was revealed" people are multifaceted and consciousness works kind of like a majority government in your brain. But there are always minorities. Sometimes those minorities are really dangerous and take complete control over you. But its incorrect to say that your consciousness is your brain. Its produced by your brain from a myriad of processes. What im saying is that people are complex and people tend to reduce them to just one assessment. Maybe he was actually friendly in the context you met him in.
I just don’t understand the mental degradation someone goes through to become an extreme psychopath like Chandler here
Some people are psychopaths since their kids. (Many serial killers). Some people are abused when their young so they come insane killers
Chandler’s is like he casually flipped a crazy switch in his head and abandoned all of his humanity
A friend of mine murdered his father in law, who’s son was another friend of mine. You just never know with people. People change or we never knew them, it’s different for everyone but it’s sad each time because we always feel betrayed or duped.
@@JayDAnderson So you're basically saying some people who go down the wrong path have gotten a diseased brain and got a sick brain? Sorry dude, no. That's just a sociopath or at least sociopath behavior.
I watched this trial. It was horrific. He picked the right kind of girlfriend that would believe everything he said, even once the trial started. He never once showed any feelings. Another creepy sociopath that ruined many lives. Everyone loved his parents. 😞
Well a normal person wouldn't suspect her boyfriend killed & burned & dismembered his parents when he says they're out of town.
Was he ever tested for schizophrenia?
jettsoma The fact that he was still living in the family home at 23 was a bit of a clue.
@@pagejames8754 I get your thoughts but Normal? What is normal? Normal is a setting on a washing machine other than that everyone's normal is different. I would say Average or typical are better words to describe a large entity or mass of people thinking alike. No arrogance intented Peace, I just hate the word normal.
@@ticketyboo2456 buddy I didn't get to move out until I was 30 and so did a lot of my friends, housing is just scarse these days 😂😂 were not all about to kill our parents
Thank's for all of the most strange , dark and misterios storys ❤
I really thought "Oh what a caring son he even went door to door" and then 5 minutes later my jaw hit the floor... Glad to hear he has no chance of parole. Hope that doesn't change no matter how much he appeals. I'm speechless. I feel for Bart and Krista. So heartbreaking
Im so glad John focused on Bart & Krista, telling their story together rather than focusing on the criminal/murderer which is the usual rhetoric on MSM/SM. That glorifies it to the next killer, and so on... John is doing amazing things!
I was thinking the exact same thing 💯
i feel like Chandler worked harder trying not to work than just actually working...
Some of us are extremely busy being lazy
@@bellboy4020 Lmao
I feel like your post was a total spoiler. It was the top post and you can see it when you hit play so of course I saw it and read it and I knew it was Chandler that Chandler was involved so I still listened to the story to see who Chandler was and what he did.
@@joystrawnhill since discovering this chanel ive trained my eyes to not look down at the comments & just quickly hit full screen mode.
@@joystrawnhill Ya, it is, along with lots of other spoiler comments..That's why I stay out of the comments until After I finish listening to the whole story..LoL
As an ex addict, I can relate to the feeling of drowning in my lies…I chose to come clean and not murder everyone I’ve lied to….but I can definitely relate to that feeling of drowning in my own lies and not knowing how I’m getting out of it. It’s a devastating, ground falling from beneath you feeling. I’m glad I chose to come clean. It changed my life.
❤ I'm very happy for you. May you continue to stay clean and prosper. The truth indeed does set us free..
First congratulations on getting clean! Thats not easy so be proud of yourself!❤ what you said is so true. It’s like being smothered. Sometimes it’s impossible to remember which lie was told to who and when. Yes there’s times when lying might be your only option to survive. Not cause you’re lazy and don’t wanna work. It’s very freeing to be honest, as long as it’s not done in a vindictive and hurtful way. But with respect if deserved. I used to lie a lot due to situations I’ve been in but I finally decided no more. All lying does is cause chaos and breaks trust. Sometimes all I have is my word but if I’m lying it’s useless. How can people trust I’d keep my word if I lie? So now I make sure my word means something by being honest at all times. My loyalty, love and any promises I make is never questioned BECAUSE I don’t lie. Stay strong cause you GOT THIS!! 😊
God bless you, man
Thank you for your heartfelt honesty. My son is an addict and lies to us about almost everything- serious or inconsequential. We are trying our best to be supportive, but it’s so hard. Your description about drowning in lies hurts my heart because I know that’s what he must be feeling too.
he just needs Jesus. Trust me. I know from experience. Jesus really is the one and only Son of God and Savior of humanity and the world. (Why would we lie about that??? What do we get in return for that "lie"? nothing but ridicule and being cast out of society. Look at what Jesus's original disciples got for telling the world about Him - they were killed. So I hope you can take my word for it. I wish you could understand how true it is - Jesus is pure Good. They say He is "the way, the truth, and the life." That is spot on. If you care about your son, let him know about this please. If you are tired of trying all of the world's ways, just sit with him one night, and tell him about how Jesus loves him and can save him@@susanfirey2033
Man he really picked a good day to tell this story outside. Absolutely no wind 👌👌👌👌
this is hilarious 😂