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At event for Christian lawmakers, panelists insist Satanists can't be school chaplains (Livestream)

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  • @TrancingWithSpirit
    @TrancingWithSpirit หลายเดือนก่อน +355

    No public school should have any chaplains, of ANY denomination. you want chaplains in your school, send them to a religious school or church.

    • @dannycarlow8204
      @dannycarlow8204 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      That's the plan. Make them all religious schools.

    • @TrancingWithSpirit
      @TrancingWithSpirit หลายเดือนก่อน +36

      @@dannycarlow8204 , trust me I know, as a non-Christian, I'm fully aware that there are certain factions in this country would go to any lengths to make this a strictly white christain only nation.

    • @danakchampion
      @danakchampion หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      Thank you for calling out Christian supremacy. Christian religion is the one remaining pillar of colonialist heteropatriarchy that people shy away from shaming and as such it's used to continue to institutionalize all matter of harm.

    • @Spaceystace
      @Spaceystace หลายเดือนก่อน

      The education vouchers they want sounds good but it is actually a way to segregate schools again. Then on project 2025 republicans want to abolish the department of education.

    • @randibgood
      @randibgood หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      And those religious schools should not receive any federal or state funds. No private school or charter school should.

  • @Mplsgurl
    @Mplsgurl หลายเดือนก่อน +734

    Remember when the right told us we needed to fear Muslims bc of sharia law?? I told them I feared Christian Nationalists more and they all laughed. Sometimes, I hate being correct.

    • @user-ki1un4jg2d
      @user-ki1un4jg2d หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      You are not correct .
      Try being an outspoken Christian or atheist or even any other belief other than Muslim in countries run by sharia law .

    • @serryx1944
      @serryx1944 หลายเดือนก่อน +52

      @@user-ki1un4jg2d That's a country that has those laws. Not all people of that religion live in those kind of places or follow / enforce said laws

    • @Mplsgurl
      @Mplsgurl หลายเดือนก่อน

      ⁠@@user-ki1un4jg2dI will never cos play a Christian, but thanks for the offer. Your scenario has nothing to do with my rights in America being crushed by Christian nationalists.

    • @GamingWithNikolas
      @GamingWithNikolas หลายเดือนก่อน +106

      ​@user-ki1un4jg2d He's talking about what's happening in the USA. This was probably when immigrants from Muslim countries were banned from Trumps travel ban. And also, if these Christians Nationalist got there way, I genuinely think it would be comparable to sharia law.

    • @markbriten6999
      @markbriten6999 หลายเดือนก่อน +61

      ​@@GamingWithNikolasit would be exactly the same if not worse. Say you are an atheist and got stoned to death, and not in a good way

  • @tbrowder4796
    @tbrowder4796 หลายเดือนก่อน +230

    If I wanted my children taught by chaplains I would send them to a Christian school.

    • @tonywood3660
      @tonywood3660 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      So you don't support child abuse? Good on ya....

    • @raven_glass
      @raven_glass หลายเดือนก่อน

      There is no such thing as a Christian school, because a school is where you are educated. Christians indoctrinate, they don't educate.

    • @AngelusNielson
      @AngelusNielson หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@tonywood3660 They said "If"

    • @LalaWatches
      @LalaWatches 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@tonywood3660 Catholic/Christians schools themselves are abusive to children

    • @MrMarinus18
      @MrMarinus18 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      They want to take that choice away. So that you HAVE to have your children taught by chaplains rather you like it or not.
      It's something the democrats should really hammer the republicans on.

  • @junepearl7993
    @junepearl7993 หลายเดือนก่อน +159

    Schools need social workers, psychologists, and guidance counselors. Not religious people. Go to church for that.

    • @user-bt5qt9pp4x
      @user-bt5qt9pp4x หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      "Not religious people" That is discrimination :p

    • @user-wi9hv2pb2q
      @user-wi9hv2pb2q หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Schools need a principal who handles administrative work and order with the students and Teachers that independently teach their subjects, with degrees in their subjects, and really nothing else.

    • @aetherkid
      @aetherkid หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      ​@@user-wi9hv2pb2qto pretend that children do not have the need for qualified experts to help care for them is just as foolish as insisting they need chaplains

    • @JacksonHoulihan
      @JacksonHoulihan หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@user-bt5qt9pp4x, then it’s every religion or none or it violates the first amendment.

    • @LalaWatches
      @LalaWatches 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      ​@@user-bt5qt9pp4xthat's like saying not allowing racism in school is discrimination against racists....

  • @smoothe14
    @smoothe14 หลายเดือนก่อน +225

    I was a Christian for many years, the evangelical movement is 100% about theocracy. They shield their intentions with lace.

    • @HarryNicNicholas
      @HarryNicNicholas หลายเดือนก่อน +31

      it's in the book, you have to annoy people and force god's rules on folks like it or not. i have to remind people that even "nice" christians will say it's okay for god to kill whoever he feels like just cos they disagree with him, it's an inhuman way of thinking. god is an alien and a criminal (and not real most of all).

    • @user-ey2xp2ge9y
      @user-ey2xp2ge9y หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      They are not fooling anyone

    • @junepearl7993
      @junepearl7993 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I think you means lies.

    • @jjbud3124
      @jjbud3124 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@junepearl7993 That took me back at bit, but then I thought - well, lace is pretty, and their beliefs aren't, so hide the ugly with something pretty? So not too far off. Besides, I'm happy to know that other people besides me start typing a word that starts with certain letters and end up typing a different word entirely. Edited to correct silly mistake (which proved my point). 🤦‍♀

    • @tgriffin3059
      @tgriffin3059 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nonsense, of course. Hardly anybody wants true theocracy. The problem is, your kind want no trace of our Christian heritage...and Christians have finally begun to stand up...

  • @craigsewell8692
    @craigsewell8692 หลายเดือนก่อน +156

    Chaplains in public schools sounds like grooming and indoctrination.

    • @randibgood
      @randibgood หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      Exactly like that. The projection is off the charts.

    • @joycej9415
      @joycej9415 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Because it is!

    • @steveoguin6158
      @steveoguin6158 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      And a violation of the separation of church and state.

  • @martinmckee5333
    @martinmckee5333 หลายเดือนก่อน +304

    The idea that someone would refuse to hire someone as an engineer because they were a Satanist is wild. The fact that they care more about their employee's religion than their competence at their job is very telling. Not to mention it's patently illegal.

    • @capt.bart.roberts4975
      @capt.bart.roberts4975 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      Very serendipitous autocabbage there, being a Satirist!

    • @HarryNicNicholas
      @HarryNicNicholas หลายเดือนก่อน +32

      i don't think you are allowed to even ask are you? that would be a lawsuit right there.

    • @serryx1944
      @serryx1944 หลายเดือนก่อน +65

      @@HarryNicNicholas I was working for tempur-pedic and a co-worker was talking about saying prayer at the start of lunch break. When asked I mentioned that I didn't mind but I wouldn't be because I'm atheist. Was "let go" the next day. They can get away with quite a lot of shit in right-to-work states.

    • @markbriten6999
      @markbriten6999 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The other one is that these arseholes say if you like a beer on Friday you are fired. They tried this in the UK and we're told to fuck off. If it's not a night before work and they don't turn up "in drink" they can not be fired. So fuck them on

    • @martinmckee5333
      @martinmckee5333 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      @@HarryNicNicholas True. Though I would guess their approach would be to check social media and then simply claim "better candidates." While still illegal, they'd be totally safe.

  • @ZangariRC
    @ZangariRC หลายเดือนก่อน +198

    Christ psychosis is the number one national security threat.

    • @deconstructing7307
      @deconstructing7307 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      I love this label!

    • @christopherhughes8402
      @christopherhughes8402 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      And their christo-fascist politics.

    • @jjbud3124
      @jjbud3124 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      It wouldn't be if they followed the most important command of their Jesus.

    • @tjenadonn6158
      @tjenadonn6158 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      ​@@jjbud3124Expecting more Jesus to cure the problems with Christianity is like expecting more drinking to cure the problems caused by alcoholism.

    • @qjtvaddict
      @qjtvaddict หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Especially since they were empowered in the 60s and 80s by the deinstitutionalization movement!!!!!

  • @MMuraseofSandvich
    @MMuraseofSandvich หลายเดือนก่อน +78

    "Okay, then, how about Muslims?"
    "NO."
    "Atheists? Agnostics?"
    "Absolutely not."
    "What about J--"
    "Look, we want OUR church to be running the school!"

  • @misinformationwars
    @misinformationwars หลายเดือนก่อน +130

    Christianity would be nonexistent without hypocrisy. 😂

    • @fredriksundberg4624
      @fredriksundberg4624 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Like every other of the Abrahamic trinity god concept religions.

    • @ChefBuckeye
      @ChefBuckeye หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@fredriksundberg4624 The others don't do that "trinity" thing.

    • @fredriksundberg4624
      @fredriksundberg4624 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@ChefBuckeye
      Trinity = Judaism christianity and islam.
      Abrahamic trinity = Judaism christianity and islam.

  • @poigntless
    @poigntless หลายเดือนก่อน +52

    Christos are the first to cry religious persecution and it's always them doing it.

  • @user-sd5go4rr4i
    @user-sd5go4rr4i หลายเดือนก่อน +103

    This is 1st amendment discrimination on an epic level. Start suing.

    • @jswaggart01
      @jswaggart01 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      With most of the courts (and SCOTUS) leaning far right? How’s that going to go?

    • @user-sd5go4rr4i
      @user-sd5go4rr4i หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@jswaggart01 Well as long as you are willing to instantly give up then nothing. Black people in the south didn't know Jim Crow would end. They had huge obstacles but still did it.

    • @emilala9049
      @emilala9049 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Amendment I
      Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
      It's right at the beginning. Effectively, making no law establishing religion means that you cannot have religious artifacts or literature in public schools (or anywhere in government in general), or teach religion, or hold prayer service (individuals praying quietly to themselves is just fine). By not allowing other religions, such as satanism, they are also violating the provision that guarantees the free exercise of religion.

    • @user-sd5go4rr4i
      @user-sd5go4rr4i หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@emilala9049 Christian Nationalists don't care about no pesky constitution. Unless its guns.

  • @ninja1antelope
    @ninja1antelope หลายเดือนก่อน +73

    It makes me sick how much money various levels of American governments pay directly or indirectly to churches.
    Tax the church.

    • @creativewriter3887
      @creativewriter3887 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      EXACTLY.

    • @daciaharms
      @daciaharms หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I was disgusted by how many churches received Covid funds. In my state, some of the churches received multiple funds.

    • @JanWyman-dv1qh
      @JanWyman-dv1qh หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Long overdue!

  • @rokhamler3352
    @rokhamler3352 หลายเดือนก่อน +77

    Chaplains should not be in public schools anywhere

    • @qjtvaddict
      @qjtvaddict หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ohh well Marxists can get into schools it’s their (religion)Jesus

    • @creativewriter3887
      @creativewriter3887 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      THANK YOU!! EXACTLY!! Finally someone addressed and called this out!

  • @jayejaejjjeijay5648
    @jayejaejjjeijay5648 หลายเดือนก่อน +53

    If i never hear about 'God's presence' anywhere again as long as i live it'll be too soon. I'm so tired of these people.

  • @whitestarlinegoodnight
    @whitestarlinegoodnight หลายเดือนก่อน +198

    Alternate title: the party against groomers admits they want random people to have intimate conversations with your child about Christianity in school.

    • @Mplsgurl
      @Mplsgurl หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Same thing, hits different 😂

    • @deconstructing7307
      @deconstructing7307 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Aren't they the party FOR groomers?

    • @christopherhughes8402
      @christopherhughes8402 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They’re only against grooming if it’s other persons doing the grooming. They reserve grooming for themselves only. Childhood indoctrination of children is child abuse period!

    • @christopherhughes8402
      @christopherhughes8402 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Make that religious indoctrination of children is chil abuse!

    • @down-to-earth-mystery-school
      @down-to-earth-mystery-school หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yep.

  • @forestxander
    @forestxander หลายเดือนก่อน +56

    They have no right to make that determination. They shouldn't be lawmakers if they can't keep their religion out of their jobs.

  • @Bruintjebeer6
    @Bruintjebeer6 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    As a Catholic i would not want my kids to get counseling from an avangelist chaplain
    Neither would an non religious parent have their kids get counseling from a chaplain no matter what his religion is.
    I would be very angry when i put my kids in a public school that will be confronted with religious believes.

  • @qjtvaddict
    @qjtvaddict หลายเดือนก่อน +79

    Finland avoided this by banning private schools now they have the best education system globally

    • @jtorelli7341
      @jtorelli7341 หลายเดือนก่อน

      But we have too much free-dumb in our markets to ban private school markets.

    • @therealjetlag
      @therealjetlag หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I don’t understand how that would fix the problem of allowing chaplains in state schools.

    • @tanepukenga1421
      @tanepukenga1421 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@therealjetlag They educated their kids enough they didn't believe in magic sky wizards who said they are allowed to tread on everyone else. Can't have the inmates running the asylum if they've been cured.

    • @RichWoods23
      @RichWoods23 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      @@therealjetlag The concept would never even come up in a normal country.

    • @petem.3719
      @petem.3719 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Religion ruins everything, especially minds. This is state sanctioned child abuse.

  • @starelise1387
    @starelise1387 หลายเดือนก่อน +164

    If Satanist can’t be included then it’s DISCRIMINATION and it’s a FELONY!
    It’s either ALL or NONE!

    • @Diviance
      @Diviance หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      Not a felony.
      A constitutional violation.

    • @genera1013
      @genera1013 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      They also said no Muslims so that's two counts on discrimination.

    • @valalongtooth1
      @valalongtooth1 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Just imagine a chaplain for all religions and denominations ..... It would be chaos

    • @solosynapse
      @solosynapse หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      ​@@valalongtooth1You mean like the US military?
      All it takes to get a chaplain for your religion assigned to your base is to fill out a form & wait - or become ordained yourself.

    • @barbaraeslick558
      @barbaraeslick558 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@solosynapse Religion doesn’t belong in schools unless it’s a world religion class

  • @t.l.c7481
    @t.l.c7481 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    I’m still recovering from 10 years of church abuse. I don’t want these hateful people. People should know the church abuses your mind, body, and soul (if you believe in souls). It’s run like a cult. I can give you stories from various churches I’ve been to about their various abuses.
    These kids are vulnerable and should be protected from these religious predators. They prey on the vulnerable.

  • @bhambhole
    @bhambhole หลายเดือนก่อน +54

    So much for the freedom of religion and freedom from religion. I thought these folks were "constitutionalists"

    • @SIS3W3N
      @SIS3W3N หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      Only when it suits their agenda.

    • @philhart4849
      @philhart4849 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Those folks are irredeemable idiots.

    • @andiward7068
      @andiward7068 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I mean, they don't want to admit we were founded by religious extrmists looking to practice their cult ish.

  • @crafty-lady6853
    @crafty-lady6853 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    The Federal government should pull the funding for schools that promote Christianity.
    VOTE BLUE STRAIGHT UP AND DOWN THE BALLOT ON NOVEMBER 5, 2024 TO STOP THE INSANITY!

  • @sandramelia3765
    @sandramelia3765 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Seperation of church and state is the reason our Democratic society exists. Founding Fathers understood and intended this.

  • @Onganana
    @Onganana หลายเดือนก่อน +211

    If you're an adult still having an imaginary friend, like a god, you shouldn't be messing with any laws that apply to reality. Period.

    • @user-ki1un4jg2d
      @user-ki1un4jg2d หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      God is not imaginary .
      God has proven himself billions of times .
      Every time a baby is born , it is the gift of life given to us by God .

    • @Onganana
      @Onganana หลายเดือนก่อน +32

      @@user-ki1un4jg2d A non-imaginary god does not need you to speak for it.
      Let it do its perfectly real thing, don’t ruin it with your imperfection, like typing or speaking.
      …at least help its cause by just shutting up and watching it do its tricks.

    • @serryx1944
      @serryx1944 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

      @@user-ki1un4jg2d God has never been proven by anyone or any event.

    • @Mplsgurl
      @Mplsgurl หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      🎯

    • @SIS3W3N
      @SIS3W3N หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      @@user-ki1un4jg2d Run along and play. The adults are talking.

  • @zackharvey7027
    @zackharvey7027 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Just had your video pop up on my feed. Born and raised southern Baptist and still follow the teachings of Christ. I absolutely hate it when these religious nutjobs enforce their doctrine on the whole population. Schools are ment for education not religion. Period. Keep church in church.

  • @dannycarlow8204
    @dannycarlow8204 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    They push for this yet cry about DEI. The hypocrisy is insane.

  • @Chris-kl5rw
    @Chris-kl5rw หลายเดือนก่อน +57

    Must be vigilant against these people sue the hell out of them

    • @IaIaCthulhuFtagn
      @IaIaCthulhuFtagn หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Courts don't work that way. First the law has to be passed, then they have to find someone who has been harmed by it and that person can sue. That can often be hard to prove. After all when it's a decision between hiring this person or that person you can always come up with a valid reason to go with the person who shares your beliefs. (Though given all the unwitting testimony they are providing, the lawyer's job is being made much easier.)

    • @qjtvaddict
      @qjtvaddict หลายเดือนก่อน

      Get ready looks like the revolution would be in the courts

  • @JamesG5223
    @JamesG5223 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    So, this is the roadmap for grooming of children. Grooming them into religion. This does not belong in schools at all. BTW, then next argument will be that "we don't discriminate in hiring for the in-school chaplain, but we only have budget for one position, and we hired a Christian. Ugh. All this is unconstitutional.

    • @widdershins5383
      @widdershins5383 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not to mention all the youth pastors and church pastors getting busted for pedophilia these days.

  • @thelyrebird1310
    @thelyrebird1310 หลายเดือนก่อน +81

    You should also check the studies of the increase in suicide rates of youth after receiving Christian counselling

    • @user-pm3mw8xw8d
      @user-pm3mw8xw8d หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I did a little googling. There aren't a lot of studies, but the ones I did find showed significantly less suicides and suicidal ideation among the religious and among those receiving Christian counseling. One study showed an over 50% reduction aftet Christian counseling vs purely secular counseling.
      Do you have different information?

    • @LifeStrike2030
      @LifeStrike2030 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @@user-pm3mw8xw8dwhat you found is evidence that 1) religious people commit s-word at lower rates, and 2) even Christian counseling is better than nothing. What op is referencing is the fact that Christian counseling is far less effective than evidence based secular therapy.

    • @o-hogameplay185
      @o-hogameplay185 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@LifeStrike2030 i have an idea why. i was forced to go to a bible study class every week by my mother (it wanst that bad actually, i made the teacher's and the priest's work a living hell because every time they wanted to tell a story from the bible i was able to just take it apart with logic lol), and one thing they said was that if you S yourself, you will go to hell. so i think it can be a factor for those indoctrinated people to be too afraid to do so because of the threat of ethernal hell

    • @t.l.c7481
      @t.l.c7481 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      I’m among the number of people pushed by a Christian counseling into attempting my life. I’m still in therapy because of 10 years of church abuse.

    • @LifeStrike2030
      @LifeStrike2030 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@t.l.c7481 I’m with you. Solidarity.

  • @tabithabasye2440
    @tabithabasye2440 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    It’s always interesting how an omnipresent & omnipotent deity can’t find its way into a public school.

    • @RichWoods23
      @RichWoods23 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The Christofascists would say that they are the instruments of the Lord. I would have said 'tools', but apparently that makes me the bad person.

  • @Merzui-kg8ds
    @Merzui-kg8ds หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    Declaring yourself THE "righteous" is the first sign you are not.

  • @diannaliggitt360
    @diannaliggitt360 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    I taught in an affluent school district that has a variety of religious groups represented. My answer to this question has always been, Great! Let’s hire a rabbi and an imam. For that matter, how would these folks - who are mostly protestants- respond to a nun? No need to go to satanism, just someone who is not like them.

  • @davidbible1469
    @davidbible1469 หลายเดือนก่อน +293

    School Christian chaplains at public schools? Christianity doesn’t solve problems.

    • @HarryNicNicholas
      @HarryNicNicholas หลายเดือนก่อน +55

      it makes them, guilt from bad sex education must have ruined BILLIONS of lives.

    • @SuperMadman41
      @SuperMadman41 หลายเดือนก่อน +53

      Any religion doesn't solve problems. Get rid of religion in politics😡🙈🙉🙊

    • @HarryNicNicholas
      @HarryNicNicholas หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      @@SuperMadman41 shinto and jainism are pretty good, if i had to pick i'd be shinto, no god, no punishments or rewards.

    • @markbriten6999
      @markbriten6999 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Who you going to put in? RC priests, many known sexual predators, southern baptist ditto

    • @kateganz
      @kateganz หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      It only creates more

  • @grandam195
    @grandam195 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    How many pedophiles do you think will apply and be accepted as chaplains? A lot I think. I know my father would have applied. Probably would have been accepted. Pillar of the community and lay minister. Of course he would have gotten certified as a chaplain and accepted by a school. He would have applied to be the chaplain of the alternative school as that is where the vulnerable youth are.

  • @veronicaharwick9013
    @veronicaharwick9013 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    Chaplains are required to minister equally to all people without ever proselytizing their own religion. It seems that Christian Nationalists want Christian Chaplains to proselytize in schools. 😔

    • @JaniceLHz
      @JaniceLHz หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      And how do we enforce that when they are in a closed room with a 6-year-old?

    • @veronicaharwick9013
      @veronicaharwick9013 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@JaniceLHz As you were replying, I was editing my comment as I realized it could be misinterpreted. 😊

    • @amberinthemist7912
      @amberinthemist7912 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Have you run across religions people ever following their own rules?

    • @veronicaharwick9013
      @veronicaharwick9013 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@amberinthemist7912 Actually, I have found some religious folks living according to their own rules & not using the same to judge, mistreat, or hate others. Of course, there are many, who sadly don't live by those rules. 😑

    • @SakuraInOctober
      @SakuraInOctober หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@amberinthemist7912 I am aware of many military chaplains that follow the chaplain code pretty strictly, even religious people can have ethics, even if many of the *vocal* religious people right now seem to not know the word even exists.

  • @totalcontrol4205
    @totalcontrol4205 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    As a Christian, I was livid when they did this in Australia.

    • @HarryNicNicholas
      @HarryNicNicholas หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      well quit. no use pretending to be "nice". there is no god.

    • @msyoungau
      @msyoungau หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I remember when I was at Peel High School in Tamworth, NSW in the 80's there was a chaplains office as well as the School Counsellor. Peel High is a public school.

    • @hobosapiensxx
      @hobosapiensxx หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@HarryNicNicholas Go back to r/AtheistMoments we don't need you

    • @totalcontrol4205
      @totalcontrol4205 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @HarryNicNicholas that's not logical. It's kinda like saying that your much loved wife did something that you disagree on, that makes you mad, therefore, you're going to get a divorce cause obviously, marriage doesn't work and love must be fake. Your opinion on whether there is or isn't a God is irrelevant to me. I've taken a gamble which I'm comfortable with. I've been an atheist, tried various religions... loved all of those but, I loved my Jesus more, even if it turns out to be wrong, fake, etc, I don't mind. I'm not demanding you take the same gamble, I don't care if you are Christian or not. You don't have to convince me and I don't have any urge to convince you.

    • @serryx1944
      @serryx1944 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@totalcontrol4205 If only more of them would take the mindset you seem to have taken then people would get along a hell of a lot better. Be what you want and believe ( or don't ) in whatever you want. Just do no harm unless you're defending yourself from it or preventing it from being done to others.

  • @valalongtooth1
    @valalongtooth1 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    This is how and why the flying spaghetti monster was invented

  • @SadisticSenpai61
    @SadisticSenpai61 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    It's also illegal to ask about their religion in the hiring process. Just saying. So anyone asking your religion upfront? That's illegal and a form of discrimination.

    • @ethanrappolt6528
      @ethanrappolt6528 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Thats what the certification requirement actually does.
      They dont have to ask, they just make you present your cert and look at where it came from.

    • @SadisticSenpai61
      @SadisticSenpai61 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@ethanrappolt6528 Ah, I forgot this was about chaplains. Good point.

    • @andiward7068
      @andiward7068 หลายเดือนก่อน

      For (some) positions espousing religious beliefs, it has been ruled that asking or not hiring isn't discrimination. Due to the nature of the job, their faith is unavoidably relevant. For a janitor it's irrelevant, for a chaplain it is.

    • @ethanrappolt6528
      @ethanrappolt6528 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@andiward7068 only if youre hiring a chaplain for a specific religion, like for a particular church. Thats not applicable here.

    • @andiward7068
      @andiward7068 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ethanrappolt6528 the schools don't have to ask. They will hire from a pool of candidates that religious groups have already vetted.

  • @onumaytuu
    @onumaytuu หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    The law is not fair to all taxpayers. To be fair a should have a Chaplin from every religion on staff or on call . It just seems like only Christian taxpayer get representation and Hindus , Buddhists , Muslims, and other religions are being told go to your own house of worship . The school district will take your taxes , but won't give your children access to your religion. It just wrong . Chaplains have no business being in schools .

    • @GWNorth-db8vn
      @GWNorth-db8vn หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      To be fair, education and superstitions are polar opposites.

  • @chriss-nf1bd
    @chriss-nf1bd หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I am a Druid. Can I get a job there? I a world in the the grip of climate change I am most needed.

  • @angelaclark2231
    @angelaclark2231 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Chaplains, priests pastors have no LEGAL or MORAL obligation to report abuse. Mandated Reporter Training does not beat religious exemptions.

    • @down-to-earth-mystery-school
      @down-to-earth-mystery-school หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I didn’t realize that, when I worked for a youth organization, we were legally obligated to report. Unfortunately, I had to do it twice in ten years. No wonder there are so many SA cases in churches and youth groups. A story came out the other day about a pastor who was SA a 12 year old, who is now an adult. When confronted, he went into a whole spiel that ‘he strayed from God and asked forgiveness for his sin’. Jail time, that’s the damn consequence. Should be worse really.

    • @angelaclark2231
      @angelaclark2231 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@down-to-earth-mystery-school Considering OVER 80% of CSA cases are committed by a close family member or trusted family friend it's understandable why victims won't report for fear the predator will be killed. If reporting and investigatory agencies along with our justice and probation departments would just do their jobs we wouldn't have to fantasize about 'eliminating' predators. Maybe more victims would report. ✌

    • @andiward7068
      @andiward7068 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Depending on the State, some ARE mandatory reporters, but they don't know or don't care.

  • @juco4682
    @juco4682 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    As Carlin said, it's all about social control.

  • @nhansen197
    @nhansen197 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Schools shouldn't have chaplains in the first place unless we are talking about a private school. Having a Chaplin in a public school violates the constitution. I can see having a trained mental health counsellor, but not a Chaplin.

  • @MasterSpade
    @MasterSpade หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Even bible believers should be against "christian chaplains" in Public Schools because with the 40K+ different denominations, those chaplains will most likely teach your kids DIFFERENT versions of that claimed god!

  • @Urzalyr
    @Urzalyr หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    Chaplaincy has no place at schools. Schools serve the public standard of education, churches serve the individual’s desire for magic to be real.
    Sadder still, Texas’ TEKS only require A SINGLE SEMESTER of Civics education, and the religiosity of the old guard is becoming ever more apparent.

  • @JGM0JGM
    @JGM0JGM หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    What? Texas lawmakers tried a thing and it was a disaster? Colour me shocked!

  • @wffarrell
    @wffarrell หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    The states, like Texas, have cut public school funding which has led to layoffs of staff and the focus has been on librarians and counselors. With a counselor shortage the same states have proposed backfilling with chaplain volunteers. In Texas a counselor has to pass a certification exam, have a BA in Education with a subject major, Masters in counseling, and 600 hours of classroom experience. A chaplain, on the other hand, doesn't even need a drivers license.

    • @crochetpurplecats
      @crochetpurplecats หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Not to mention that the few certified counselors left are solely involved with test administration. I believe these laws and moves being made in public schools are to make public schools so unacceptable that more parents will demand voucher systems. It used to be that only Christian parents homeschool their children for religious purposes. I recently read an article that reported that the huge influx of tech works coming from California and New York to Texas are homeschooling their children because our public education system in Texas is so behind where they came from. My belief from watching it on the inside as a Texas teacher is Texas is behind because of deliberate actions within our state government to destroy the public education system.

    • @smokyquartz5817
      @smokyquartz5817 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@crochetpurplecats 💯

    • @wffarrell
      @wffarrell หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@crochetpurplecats In my experience school counselors spend most of their time helping students with their educational career, class choices and college guidance. "Chaplains" are woefully unprepared to do any of that work. Sadly, the legislators don't give a rat's about what students actually need.

    • @crochetpurplecats
      @crochetpurplecats หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @wffarrell I've worked in three different districts in Texas during my careers and the counselors were never available to help kids with emotional problems and only spent time on careers or schedules after testing or for the first two weeks of the school year. It was different during the first 8 years I taught (more like you said). But after that it started getting worse and worse. There was even one school year, we went the whole year without a counselor because we were an elementary school so we didn't really need a counselor. I've taught every level during my career and counselors were mostly unavailable. I've had to handle suicide outcries myself several times. All of it started because they started cutting out counselors and librarians to save money in the budget. Teachers become more and more responsible for doing many of the jobs. Now we don't have enough teachers because we started to be forced to be clerks, custodians, counselors, etc. It is one of the reasons I retired as soon as I could. I really miss the kids and the teaching but not the rest of it.

  • @androgynylunacy
    @androgynylunacy หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Um, we need coverage on the fact that Louisiana signed into law that the Ten Commandments are to be displayed in public classrooms. Tf...
    What a fuckin step back from progress...

  • @Acidfunkish
    @Acidfunkish หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    If you're a parent in one of these states, and you're concerned that your kid doesn't have access to an actually qualified counselor, you can contact a variety of organisations that will bring a lawsuit with you - and probably others - named as those harmed by a purposefully exclusionary law. Organisations like the ACLU, and even TST, plus many, many others, will often foot the bill in cases like this, but, generally, there needs to be some evidence of harm done for the suits to be effective.
    Maybe not in this case, because of how egregious this example is, but it couldn't hurt to contact one of them. Especially if your kid definitely needs a school counselor, but doesn't feel comfortable opening up with a Christian chaplain. There could be many, many, extremely valid reasons for that.

  • @mikehart5619
    @mikehart5619 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    I don't know about Satanists but the DOD does approve Pagan chaplains.

    • @samanthagibson5791
      @samanthagibson5791 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I was thinking just ask a Muslim. I'm sure plenty of Muslims would be happy to volunteer, and no-one could claim Islam is not a valid religion.

  • @LeahKoahal
    @LeahKoahal หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    We should start calling is Christian Sharia law.

    • @CricketsBay
      @CricketsBay หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Sharia is literally the word Law. I wish Americans were educated enough to know this.

    • @joshshultz1250
      @joshshultz1250 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@CricketsBay In Arabic, Sharia literally means "the clear, well-trodden path to water".

  • @JS-L90
    @JS-L90 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    It amazes me how freely people who supposedly follow "Thou shalt not bear false witness" spew outright misinformation

  • @LoveProWrestling
    @LoveProWrestling หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    "That's how we got around that". We see who you are.

    • @DawnDavidson
      @DawnDavidson หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yep. Saying the quiet parts out loud, they are.

  • @BigFish0047
    @BigFish0047 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    Don’t you think that they’re saying it out loud, not fearing lawsuits because of the signs from Supreme Court which are saying it out loud as well?

    • @VAwitch
      @VAwitch หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I think even this joke of a SCOTUS bench would be hard pressed to uphold the constitutionality of these laws. If the US Chaplain Corps wasn't able to keep out non Abrahamic chaplains, I can't see how any state can write a law to get their desired goal that won't run afoul of multiple Fed laws along with hundreds of years of precedent.

    • @BigFish0047
      @BigFish0047 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I hope you are right but with the way things have been going and the organization of project 2025, I feel whats is constitutional or correct will not be observed. They have weaponized religion and ignorance.

    • @andiward7068
      @andiward7068 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@VAwitch ha. Have you not been paying attention? Chevron case, overturning R v W? Bribing officials is a "gratuity"? The party DOESN'T CARE about States rights and precedent and are making sure they can get away with this ish.

  • @user-co6wc8di5l
    @user-co6wc8di5l หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    Rocky Malloy sounds like the name of the unhinged muscle in the old school 1920s mafia.

  • @IIARROWS
    @IIARROWS หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    5:10 Malloy: how do I look?
    Photographer: like a movie villain
    Malloy: perfect! Publish it to our website.

  • @david-wc6mi
    @david-wc6mi หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    considering the number of C.S.A. cases systemic within the christian community this really is a terrible idea!

  • @Thatchxl
    @Thatchxl หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    In the Texas chaplain bill, the house narrowed the definition of Chaplain to only organizations recognized by a few federal agencies (which actually had some standards), but then the senate threw that away.

  • @deconstructing7307
    @deconstructing7307 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    These kids will go no-contact with these lawmaker parents and grandparents.

  • @toughenupfluffy7294
    @toughenupfluffy7294 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    All of these so-called 'law makers' sure don't seem to know much about the law.

    • @Whitehorse_crimefighter
      @Whitehorse_crimefighter 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Because people vote for the guy who reads the prepared script better instead of someone who is actually qualified

  • @ih8myfriends
    @ih8myfriends หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    They want to put people from the highest demographic of PDF files in schools.

    • @CricketsBay
      @CricketsBay หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yup. Party against groomers, literally trying to force schools to have groomers on staff. GOP always doing the opposite of what they say.

  • @user-co6wc8di5l
    @user-co6wc8di5l หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I still don't understand why chaplains are a thing in any context. My Canadian brain doesn't understand since we only have them in the military apparently.

    • @CricketsBay
      @CricketsBay หลายเดือนก่อน

      Many hospitals in the U.S. have chaplains. An actual Chaplain cannot "represent" any religion. They must be there without judgment for all people, regardless of faith or lack thereof.

  • @masterskrain2630
    @masterskrain2630 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    One imaginary diety is just the same as any other imaginary deity.

  • @Caldenor328
    @Caldenor328 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    What happens when the Supreme Court decides this is ok because of cultural history? Or some governors say “I will not comply, because I serve God first”?

  • @ConsciencepartyUSA
    @ConsciencepartyUSA หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Well, maybe they are saying that Satanists do not exist because it is too new, but then what about Jews Buddhism Taoism Islam hinduism etc? Some of them have been around way before even christianity was right?

    • @markwilder1860
      @markwilder1860 หลายเดือนก่อน

      These “special” people only want their evangelical extremist proselytizers in place. These are white nationalists who want to eliminate everything and everyone who isn’t them.

    • @kristianhartlevjohansen3541
      @kristianhartlevjohansen3541 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      But Satan is in THEIR book ? 😮😮

    • @down-to-earth-mystery-school
      @down-to-earth-mystery-school หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Paganism is the oldest religion, I am a registered chaplain, maybe I should apply?

    • @ConsciencepartyUSA
      @ConsciencepartyUSA หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@down-to-earth-mystery-school exactly. And Christmas wasn’t even Christmas it was originally a pagan event.

  • @user-pr8gx3vb9h
    @user-pr8gx3vb9h หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    How very predictable for theists to do such a thing.

  • @xxbatflowerxx
    @xxbatflowerxx หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    The lunatics have taken over the asylum.

  • @Jhenryx60
    @Jhenryx60 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    It's fairy tales, it's the Easter Bunny, it's Santa Clause, it's flat-earth, it's nonsense.

  • @OriginalBernieBro
    @OriginalBernieBro หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Ah SATAN their other diety. Lol

    • @down-to-earth-mystery-school
      @down-to-earth-mystery-school หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I am pagan and when I told one of my neighbors, he accused me of worshipping Satan. How surprised he was to learn that pagans don’t believe in Satan, that he is a Christian mythological entity😆

  • @EwanMarshall
    @EwanMarshall หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    I'm sure TST is going with, challenge accepted :D

    • @HarryNicNicholas
      @HarryNicNicholas หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      i hope so, but even muslims applying would shake things up. or any other religion, it's clear "they" just want christians, unfortunately for them the US is a secular nation and the first amendment conflicts with the first commandment - thou shalt worship whoever you feel like worshiping.

    • @SIS3W3N
      @SIS3W3N หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      No question. This is their raison d'être.

  • @chibinyra
    @chibinyra หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Whoa x3, you want our rules applied eQuaLLy 2 eVeRY1!?!
    The nerve!
    I'm so persecuted!

    • @markbriten6999
      @markbriten6999 หลายเดือนก่อน

      For Christians in the USA and toa lesser extent in the UK anything that stops them being a bunch of twats is persecution.i believe I'm a racist twat so I'll be a twat who says you must obey me 9:01

  • @markkozlowski3674
    @markkozlowski3674 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Where do they stand on Muslim imans, Zen masters, Hindu gurus?

    • @timo72455
      @timo72455 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      The man said only "Certified champlains". Meaning "Only Christians because Christianity is the only religion that we want in schools". Not only is it discrimination but they are openly saying that they will discriminate against other religions.

    • @markkozlowski3674
      @markkozlowski3674 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@timo72455 If that is what they mean, then they are advocating a blatant violation of the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment.

  • @apburner
    @apburner หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I no longer have children in school. However is my school were to higher a Chaplin I would show up at the school and have a talk with that Chaplin. I would record it and I would let then know that they were no to talk to my child.

  • @ivanzed
    @ivanzed หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    They don't want religious freedom. They was freedom of Christianity. The height of hypocrisy

  • @Sean-oy8xm
    @Sean-oy8xm หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    National Association of Christian Lawmakers? WHAT?! The oxymoron of the year.

  • @robwilkes3351
    @robwilkes3351 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I'd totally become a Hemantarian. I'd imagine the gatherings would be far more enlightening than any Evangelical service.

  • @toonman361
    @toonman361 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Having been a public school teacher for quite some time, I believe these devout Christian chaplains will have their work cut out for them. Fewer students are expressing positive religious sentiments these days. In my classroom, my teenagers openly discuss their non-theist beliefs along with topics that you'd expect from adults. The chaplains are not ready for the pushback.

    • @CricketsBay
      @CricketsBay หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I worry that it's more about allowing groomers to have access to children. GOP always saying they're the party against groomers, but high rates of CSA in Catholic, Baptist, Evangelical, etc. churches belies their rhetoric.

  • @arenee118
    @arenee118 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    My daughter was harmed emotionally by the church she attended. I don't want chaplains in schools, harming the students emotionally by spewing their hate. If you want your children to see a chaplain, take them to church. No chaplains in schools.

  • @danh6720
    @danh6720 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    It Satanism isn’t a religion, then it’s legal for the government to promote it and even require it. Interesting.

  • @josephbearpaw
    @josephbearpaw หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Their going to be taken to court and , they will Loose

  • @suckdogofficial
    @suckdogofficial หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I don't fear anyone as much as I fear a conservative Christian.

    • @scottadkinshill2493
      @scottadkinshill2493 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don't fear them, I just can't stand them.

  • @barbaradavis393
    @barbaradavis393 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I am with you. I went to religious school because my parents believed in it and felt it was their duty to support it. My kids went to public school. I knew a lot of good, honest, spiritual teachers. However, there is no place where you can see hate, meaness, and power obsession more than in a religious school.

  • @rskeyesful
    @rskeyesful หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The military calls it Pagan. And last I looked, it was still there.

  • @victorialawhon2251
    @victorialawhon2251 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Pretty much everyone in Lynchburg despises LU.
    It would be awesome if someone were to change the giant LU on the mountain to a giant FU. 😂

  • @leeproulx7412
    @leeproulx7412 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I think that you’re right about them being challenged, they’ll find out soon enough as you’ve said. People have taken enough abuses from the Christian churches spanning decades and decades, of cover-ups etc. Many of us left our churches for those reasons. Now they want proprietary positions in Publicly funded schools as chaplains? I can’t see that happening unless parents don’t pay attention.

  • @Valhan177
    @Valhan177 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    These people never believed in the religious rights of others, yet they demand we respect theirs.
    Goes both ways.

  • @Eam4375
    @Eam4375 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Follower of the teachings of Christ here and I love your channel. Also an ordained minister (on pretty much permanent sabbatical). I am vehemently against this type of legislation. I intentionally refuse to put my son in a private or religious school because I recognize them for what they are- havens for bigots and nationalistic indoctrination. I don't want to make my son believe anything except that I love him unconditionally. He is already the smartest kid I know. Thoughtful and kind. Not afraid to ask for preferred pronouns because he cares about the peoples feelings. Marches with me in Pride every summer. If I don't want that for my kid (and I don't think anyone that follows the golden rule would), why the hell would I want it for other kids. Heck, I am already having enough issues with the schools in NH trying to guilt my son into saying the pledge of allegiance! Keep up the good work. It's doing more good than almost any church I know of.

  • @jacobh9241
    @jacobh9241 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Who said they read that _first_ book?

  • @TobyFloof
    @TobyFloof หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Why weren't these people all arrested???

  • @cjhan47
    @cjhan47 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    A striking lack of diversity in their leadership.

  • @HummaKavula-DontVoteForStupid
    @HummaKavula-DontVoteForStupid หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    When I was in the 6th grade we had an ordained Catholic priest in a public school. He was a 6th grade teacher. How this happened? Who knows.
    My teacher, Mrs. Coleman, told us to call him “Father Nick”. I wasn’t an atheist then but I knew calling him Father was wrong. I called him Mr. Nick and this didn’t bother him but it bothered my teacher. I was sent to the office. My mother had my back. She told them that I’m not required to call him Father. She reminded them that I was in a *public school* NOT a *church*

  • @robinhood20253
    @robinhood20253 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    How many cases of sexual abuse will result from this?

  • @UlshaRS
    @UlshaRS หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    God of the old testament, all poweful being that is powerless against a teacher's union. Must be those iron chariots they drive to work in

    • @stylesrj
      @stylesrj หลายเดือนก่อน

      Don't forget that some of the teachers probably know how to wrestle? Like Gym or P.E teachers?

  • @grayj7441
    @grayj7441 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Right now they say Christians. But don't realize the trap of being the right kind.

  • @dca4840
    @dca4840 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Not the first time the church has decided they’re the authority on what is a valid religion. Why is anyone surprised?

  • @MySerpentine
    @MySerpentine หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Separation of church and state, anyone? Anyone?

  • @jimkonen1913
    @jimkonen1913 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The best way to create or make an already problematic situation worse is to use less qualified people when it's obvious a professional is required. Hope they at least check into the backgrounds of these "chaplins".

  • @tooltroll
    @tooltroll หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Satanists or not, how are 'school chaplains' even legal?!? SMH.

  • @jbauerlu2
    @jbauerlu2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    a monotheist wants to have a monopoly in everyones beliefsystems.