What's not to love . I'll be wanting the green one but mostly being happy for the people who can afford them lol . Very cool on both of these and soo much fun to get a good look at as well as the expert run down !
Went to Patek Philippe Museum when in Geneva for Watches and Wonders this past April, and the private tour guide might have talked about Breguet just as much as PP. Really cool how much respect exists between these incredibly high horology houses.
Hallo Teddy, you are absolutely right, Breguet is much overlooked, I would compare that with old money versus new money. I love this brand, for all the reasons you mentioned. It is a difference between going with the trend and going with a classic. I just got an antique Breguet and it is really beautiful. Thank you for this video snd as always love from Switzerland 🇨🇭
Checked both watches out extensively, including the just released bracelet models as well. Here are some of my observations: 1) The new bracelet is amazing. Matte brushed on the surface but polished inbetween the links to give you the ever so slight glimmer. Very tastefully done. Screw in links and solid feeling. Its a butterfly clasp but has around a 1.5mm micro adjustment on the fly on each side which is the same as the vacheron and patek system. Very well done. 2) The civilian model is probably the nicer one. The military one would have worked if that one didnt have the date. But since both have the date, the military one sort of doesnt make sense from a "concept" perspective. The civilian one you can sort of forgive having a date because....well its a civilian oriented model and civilians generally use the date... 3) The movement is probably a one of a kind. 5 patents and an integrated vertical clutch chronograph movement specialised to deal with flyback mechanisms, all beating at 10hz with a 60hr power reserve. This is a power house. 4) The fact that breguet has now 4 different Nato straps available for these watches also shows their commitment. Yes the straps are ridiculously priced but they are very comofortable.
Excellent job, as usual, Teddy 🙂. 42mm is my MINIMUM watch size and my wrist size is identical to yours. As a retired F-16 Fighter Pilot, I love these as much as I love the Breitling Super AVI's. Breguet finally came up with a refresh of the Type XX series. I loved the previous versions, but they were just too thick for me. I will buy the "civilian" version soon. Any suggestions from whom? I just like that iteration better. Keep up the good work!!!
The Breguet Type xx Aeronaval 39mm no date is one of the most iconic chronographs ever made. These new ones are horrendous and not to mention the xx Aeronaval are like 7k and are definitely legendary with a legendary Lemania movement
@@skaz1504 That terrible date window and horrible faux patina just looks so bad. I'm so tired of nice vintage inspired pieces getting ruined by faux patina. I'm just over it the hands look like they been dipped in mustard...Terrible
@@lonewolfemcquade8133 I see your point and to an extent agree, but it is an unfortunate price I'm willing to pay for an otherwise, in my opinion, just about perfect chronograph.
I much prefer the military version. You are correct. Even though I can easily wear a 42mm, the last few years I've been attracted mostly to smaller cases. I think 39's are great in most instances for me.
Great looking watch for sure. The Breitling Classic AVI line looks a lot like this one. I think the Longines Bigeye also looks similar, but without the rotating bezel.
When I saw these yesterday on Hodinkee I was hoping to see a review, enter Teddy✊🏻✊🏻 The one with the fauxtina does seem to be the most beautiful. Despite the date
Please correct me if I'm mistaken, didn't Type XX sell for around 9500 EUR before 2020? And the older version didn't have a jumping minute register for the chronograph. Neither does this one apparently.
Hi Teddy - I left the following comment with the IDGuy review of this watch - I now own one of these new Breguet Type XX Civilian Chronographs. It has everything I was looking for - 60 hr power so I am not always winding it - 5Hz (it keeps PERFECT time) - sapphire back (if I am going to pay big $'s, then I want to see the movement) - 100m water resistance (I don't want to have to worry/think about it when I am around water) - a minute sub dial I can easily see - and a plain numbered bezel that is not a tachymeter so I can time one thing with the bezel and another with the stop watch function. I had never used a flyback before - it is fantastic, and now I will never buy another chronograph without it. Please let me know of another watch that has all these features. Now about the date. Please note that the date numbers are 2/3 - 3/4 the size of the hour numbers. After a brief time the date seems to melt into the background, and I don't even notice it's there. Thanks for the opportunity to comment.
Hey teddy! First of all I appreciate all of your effort in bringing such quality videos. Truly love your content. Can you suggest me some watches for engagement and wedding day? I love very minimal designs. My budget is somewhere between 1-2K.
If you don't mind the Breguet aesthetic the type XXI is the one to buy because it has the centrally mounted 60 minute chronograph and when you combine that with the flyback you have a chrono that's far quicker to set than even a smart watch and easier to read at the merest of glances than every 30 minute counter ever conceived. Plus it has the 12hr counter for timing anything for which a calendar would be overkill. Apart from IWC with their newest Yachtclub i don't think anyone makes a watch with these combinations of features but please me know if I'm wrong - or if anyone makes an analogue, digital or smart stopwatch or chronograph that's easier to use.
Great stuff and love this watch. The price is a bit rough though; I got a full gold, including bracelet, 3820 for only a bit more. That movement does look amazing but is it worth $10+k when you can easily get a 38mm 38xx model for cheap?
This is a spot-on and timely video, many thanks. Long awaited by many, some fans though were already familiar with the design of these two given the presentation of the Breguet One Watch 2019 and the One Watch 2021. The therefore not-so-fresh design is less triumphant than the previous Type XX, given their retro approach and the fact that Longines with their Big Eye sell a very similar take. Owners of the previous Type XX will miss the date window at 6 o’clock and the chronograph’s large minute hand (3810) which made the previous iteration stand out among its competitors. So the new movement is a huge and positive surprise. But whether there is a market for the new Type 20/ Type XX given the price tag of A$26k, has to be seen.
Very nice review, as always. 42mm is just the size of a Speedmaster, only without the history of it. It would be nice to compare though how the pushers feel when operated. Also very interesting the rotating bezel. The only thing that spoils it all is the price. 20k is just too freaking much. If one thinks that 15k for a Daytona is a lot then the speedy is definitely going to close any argument before it even starts
Exquisite craftsmanship let down by the date positioning, the choice of fonts -- too many different font types which show a lack of consistency in terms of visual appearance, the slight trapezoidal date window, which pushed Breguet for some reason to make the second (date) figure larger than the first. And I also have to mention the positioning if the "Swiss Made"... I'd really like to learn the reasoning of why it was placed here. This makes for a really busy dial that contrasts negatively to the build quality of these watches. I think that the Longines Big Eye is a much better execution in terms of visual appearance than both these watches.
I own a Breguet Type XX Transatlantique ref 3820 from 2004. Which I acquired in 2009 in mint condition and full set. I love the fact it’s not so common, looks great and runs well. I always get compliments when I wear it.
The Breitling AVI chrono P51 mustang that they just released a couple weeks ago are nice and have similar look, dimensions and date window at 6 o clock
I have always consider type XX -XXI -XXII alongside with zenith and other high beats chronos above mainstream chronographs that people tend to overlooked and overhyped!
I like these watches because i like BREGUET, their history, their knowledges . Reading the other comments, it seems that i am the only one to like BREGUET . I don't talk about the evolution of prices . BREGUET is in a world where you can create and start a company with a unique watch for 500 000 $ (Richard Mille) . BREGUET is underrated . Since 1775 there have designed so many new systems (complications) . I hope that the swatch group will made the maximum to promote BREGUET in the world of billionnaires.
Me too...but I tried the speed master racing on and the 5 Bar WR is a serious let down, no screw down crown. More like 3 bar. Just lazy on Omegas part to not have 10 Bar w screw down crowns.
Sorry to nit-pick, this doesn't represent my overall view of these watches, but aren't there some pretty obvious imperfections on the inside edge of the trailing side of the military version's 30 minute totalizer? 10:31 Quite a surprising lapse in quality.
I've always liked the Type XX/XXI. I aspire to own the 3810 Transatlantique. I'd much rather have one of them than the Daytona. With that said, I'm not sure that I am excited for this release. A new movement is intriguing, but I don't think I could ever bring myself to pay 2-3 times the price of the one that I want for one that is new.
They FINALLY are using a column wheel verticle clutch movement in these, and have added quarter of a minute markers to the 12 hour dial so that the 15 minute subdial makes sense and is usable. However, they added a date and an open caseback. A couple steps forward, a couple steps backwards. And also, shouldn't there be millisecond markers on a proper chronograph?
These watches have very good appeal since it substantially is an uodate to the original Type 20 produced by Breguet for the French Air Force and French Naval Air Arm. The calibers are tasty. That said, I find myself still preferring the Type XXI 3817 over these 2 wonderful releases.
Waw so fast propose a review! Good breguet contact 😊, this watch very iconic but again 42mm.... if it is like 3810 and 3817 it will be again too big for most of wirst, price grow up again 😮 also
Double the price of the last XX with half the watch ... Movement seems great but everything else is a huge miss, even the finishing isnt up to much in comparison to its predecessor
Well, this new movement looks really nice but it needs time to prove that it is worthy and the 36000 frequency means frequent service, which is not going to be cheap to put it nicely and only Breguet can do the job. And money is not the main problem. Breguet are notoriously known for slow service. It takes months and months. Lemania 1350 on the other hand, is a very robust movement tested by time and spare parts are available if you get an old Ebel 1911 as a donor. Not every watchmaker can service Lemania 1350 these days but it is not a big problem.
That date window is unfortunate. Nice movement and the aesthetic excluding that window is great. Have to wear it in person but I'd bet 40mm would wear very strong, just as the older 38mm does.
I think I prefer the bi-compax 20 over the XX. They could have moved that date window on that one though, I hate the date at 4pm. It would stop me buying one I think it looks that bad!
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Why on earth did they put a date on it? I got the type XX lookalike, Longines Avigation BigEye, a few years ago for $1600 on the grey market. Still on the lookout for an original Aeronavale 39mm but the Longines will have to do for now.
Calibre 321 is rare and only about 1000-2000 is made yearly. I called my omega AD and he said yeah it’s probably not going to happen. I’m sure it’s reserved for their high spenders. Just buying a BP FF from him last year wasn’t going to cut it for me. lol
My Seiko Speedtimer unfortunately has the same 4:30 date window, but it also cost many many times less than this Type XX. Breguet should've known better.
I love previous version 38-- . New one look like many other from different companies . And first of all I hate lost of Caseband fluting, what is Breguet signature .
@@bdegrds To my eye the Breitling AVI Ref. 765 1953 Re-editionis much nicer looking and less than half the price. I don't get what this watch is offering over that.
I go with the awesome Breguet type xx Aeronaval 39mm no date with the Lemania. That watch is iconic and you can find them between 5 and7k. These new ones are terrible with a price tag that makes 0 sense
$18,000? Nice watches. I think the GS 5 hz chronograph is a better deal, but Breguet is Breguet. I wouldn’t want to spend that much money when there are other competitors like Zenith and GS at 5hz Chronos substantially cheaper and really good watches.
All they needed to do was update the bracelet, clasp and movement. The 3800s were nearly perfect from a design standpoint. Proof everything only gets worse
The military is the winner here. But come on, why why why the 430 date window? Also did this civilian or Longines Big Eye come first? Extremely similar.
Type XX was never made by Breguet, it has nothing to do with their heritage. They were produced under contract by Mathey Tissot, so neither the design, nor manufacturing was done by Breguet
I hate the 3 o'clock wheel that cuts into the hour numbers. I hate the ugly date window at 4:30. Love Breguet, but would never buy one of these. Love the older type 20's and 21's. Too large also. Looks a little cheap.
Don’t worry. You’ll be able to pick it up at a fraction of MSRP in the preowned market in a few years. Breguet has not been good at keeping their value even during the pandemic period when competitors’ preown prices skyrocketed.
@@rrs1234567 IWC are high end watches contrary to internet trolls, their a brand that attracts hate online, but in the watch world are as highly regarded as breguet, both are high horology, both are some of the finest watch brands.
I’m not enamoured with these if I’m being absolutely honest. The Longines big eye is nicer and MUCH cheaper. I prefer the type XXs from a few years back Like the ridiculous new ingenieur, this is ridiculously overpriced in my opinion
These are huge let down for me. Feel like the date window placement is a miss and sure some nice upgrades but it's also twice the price of the original. I get it's Breguet who IMO is highly underrated but still 18K MSRP??? that's alot.
The Breguet is undeniably beautiful! However, it seems like Breguet is out of touch with the market. The case size is just too large, and the price is ridiculously inviting the gray market. As someone who appreciates the brand's rich legacy and owns Breguet watches, it's disheartening to see them struggle with product design and marketing. It's particularly surprising since they're part of the Swatch Group, a renowned company. Hopefully, Breguet can realign their approach soon and regain their footing in the industry.
What's not to love . I'll be wanting the green one but mostly being happy for the people who can afford them lol . Very cool on both of these and soo much fun to get a good look at as well as the expert run down !
the date.. :) but agree they are lovely
Just bought the military (green one) pretty much on impulse. It's a beautiful watch and must be seen in the "flesh" to truly appreciate.
Went to Patek Philippe Museum when in Geneva for Watches and Wonders this past April, and the private tour guide might have talked about Breguet just as much as PP. Really cool how much respect exists between these incredibly high horology houses.
Hallo Teddy, you are absolutely right, Breguet is much overlooked, I would compare that with old money versus new money. I love this brand, for all the reasons you mentioned. It is a difference between going with the trend and going with a classic. I just got an antique Breguet and it is really beautiful. Thank you for this video snd as always love from Switzerland 🇨🇭
Checked both watches out extensively, including the just released bracelet models as well. Here are some of my observations:
1) The new bracelet is amazing. Matte brushed on the surface but polished inbetween the links to give you the ever so slight glimmer. Very tastefully done. Screw in links and solid feeling. Its a butterfly clasp but has around a 1.5mm micro adjustment on the fly on each side which is the same as the vacheron and patek system. Very well done.
2) The civilian model is probably the nicer one. The military one would have worked if that one didnt have the date. But since both have the date, the military one sort of doesnt make sense from a "concept" perspective. The civilian one you can sort of forgive having a date because....well its a civilian oriented model and civilians generally use the date...
3) The movement is probably a one of a kind. 5 patents and an integrated vertical clutch chronograph movement specialised to deal with flyback mechanisms, all beating at 10hz with a 60hr power reserve. This is a power house.
4) The fact that breguet has now 4 different Nato straps available for these watches also shows their commitment. Yes the straps are ridiculously priced but they are very comofortable.
Breguet's heritage and legacy are undisputed. These releases are a testimony to their engineering prowess and rich culture.
Excellent job, as usual, Teddy 🙂. 42mm is my MINIMUM watch size and my wrist size is identical to yours. As a retired F-16 Fighter Pilot, I love these as much as I love the Breitling Super AVI's. Breguet finally came up with a refresh of the Type XX series. I loved the previous versions, but they were just too thick for me. I will buy the "civilian" version soon. Any suggestions from whom? I just like that iteration better.
Keep up the good work!!!
The Breguet Type xx Aeronaval 39mm no date is one of the most iconic chronographs ever made. These new ones are horrendous and not to mention the xx Aeronaval are like 7k and are definitely legendary with a legendary Lemania movement
I like both but prefer the older ones as well. The new ones seem to pay homage to the Longines Chrono with the big-eye subdial.
I have the 3820 Transatlantique and agree the older version looks nicer.
@@skaz1504 That terrible date window and horrible faux patina just looks so bad. I'm so tired of nice vintage inspired pieces getting ruined by faux patina. I'm just over it the hands look like they been dipped in mustard...Terrible
@@lonewolfemcquade8133 I see your point and to an extent agree, but it is an unfortunate price I'm willing to pay for an otherwise, in my opinion, just about perfect chronograph.
@@skaz1504 Well if you get it enjoy it 😉I just think that price tag should be alot lower aswell. 17k is alot of cabbage
I like that Breguet released this two models, with my preference going to the military version! Great video...
I much prefer the military version. You are correct. Even though I can easily wear a 42mm, the last few years I've been attracted mostly to smaller cases. I think 39's are great in most instances for me.
Great review. Can you clarify if the back is snap-on or screwed?
Is a quick release
Excelent video!! 💯🤩
Great looking watch for sure. The Breitling Classic AVI line looks a lot like this one. I think the Longines Bigeye also looks similar, but without the rotating bezel.
The Breitling AVI765 was from 1953, a whole 2 years before the Breguet! So you could say the Breguet looks a whole lot like the Breitling!!
They are wonderful. XX is on my list.
When I saw these yesterday on Hodinkee I was hoping to see a review, enter Teddy✊🏻✊🏻 The one with the fauxtina does seem to be the most beautiful. Despite the date
Please correct me if I'm mistaken, didn't Type XX sell for around 9500 EUR before 2020? And the older version didn't have a jumping minute register for the chronograph. Neither does this one apparently.
Did you ever find out why
Hi Teddy - I left the following comment with the IDGuy review of this watch - I now own one of these new Breguet Type XX Civilian Chronographs. It has everything I was looking for - 60 hr power so I am not always winding it - 5Hz (it keeps PERFECT time) - sapphire back (if I am going to pay big $'s, then I want to see the movement) - 100m water resistance (I don't want to have to worry/think about it when I am around water) - a minute sub dial I can easily see - and a plain numbered bezel that is not a tachymeter so I can time one thing with the bezel and another with the stop watch function. I had never used a flyback before - it is fantastic, and now I will never buy another chronograph without it. Please let me know of another watch that has all these features.
Now about the date. Please note that the date numbers are 2/3 - 3/4 the size of the hour numbers. After a brief time the date seems to melt into the background, and I don't even notice it's there. Thanks for the opportunity to comment.
A G-shock has all those features and then some
Love your videos - is there any chance of doing a review on the new Longines Conquest 2023?
Hey teddy! First of all I appreciate all of your effort in bringing such quality videos. Truly love your content. Can you suggest me some watches for engagement and wedding day? I love very minimal designs. My budget is somewhere between 1-2K.
Longines or Nomos buddy
Throwing in Tissot, Certina & Union Glashütte for around 1-2k, but you can’t go wrong with Longines & Nomos. Junghans with Max Bill?
Hey Teddy, love your reviews. What are your thoughts on Mr. jones watches?
Two gorgeous watches. Well done Breguet.
Such a fantastic watch, and I really appreciate the whole new movement. I feel this is a real Breguet now.
Hi Teddy,
If there any suggestion on automatic caliber watch, with complete arabic numbers face, and date function?
Thx
I love their watches. Beautiful.
Great content. I like it. 🏌🏽♂️🥃
I'm in love with the civilian version immediately! Tempting on saving and buying it...
Love the date window ❤️😍👌
Oh that date? What were they thinking! One thing - are the lugs with fixed bars for that QR system or are they conventional springbars?
Outstanding video
There needs to be more chronographs with rotating timing bezels.
Yes please. I'm specifically looking for this - is insanely useful for timing "nested" intervals.
Heuer Autavia. Very affordable on the secondary market. Large though.
Check out the Sinn 103 or the Fortis B-42
There is no mention of MSRP..... so....I guess I 😊can't afford one😢
A new version with in house movement, two sub dials, rotating bezel, quick release of the strap and no date was the perfect evolution of an icon.
If you don't mind the Breguet aesthetic the type XXI is the one to buy because it has the centrally mounted 60 minute chronograph and when you combine that with the flyback you have a chrono that's far quicker to set than even a smart watch and easier to read at the merest of glances than every 30 minute counter ever conceived. Plus it has the 12hr counter for timing anything for which a calendar would be overkill.
Apart from IWC with their newest Yachtclub i don't think anyone makes a watch with these combinations of features but please me know if I'm wrong - or if anyone makes an analogue, digital or smart stopwatch or chronograph that's easier to use.
I was going to sell my XXI in anticipation that the new one would be amazing.....I think I’ll keep it now
Great stuff and love this watch. The price is a bit rough though; I got a full gold, including bracelet, 3820 for only a bit more. That movement does look amazing but is it worth $10+k when you can easily get a 38mm 38xx model for cheap?
Love the military green version. Ill wait for price to come down on grey market or pre-owned.
This is a spot-on and timely video, many thanks. Long awaited by many, some fans though were already familiar with the design of these two given the presentation of the Breguet One Watch 2019 and the One Watch 2021. The therefore not-so-fresh design is less triumphant than the previous Type XX, given their retro approach and the fact that Longines with their Big Eye sell a very similar take. Owners of the previous Type XX will miss the date window at 6 o’clock and the chronograph’s large minute hand (3810) which made the previous iteration stand out among its competitors. So the new movement is a huge and positive surprise. But whether there is a market for the new Type 20/ Type XX given the price tag of A$26k, has to be seen.
Very nice review, as always. 42mm is just the size of a Speedmaster, only without the history of it. It would be nice to compare though how the pushers feel when operated. Also very interesting the rotating bezel.
The only thing that spoils it all is the price. 20k is just too freaking much. If one thinks that 15k for a Daytona is a lot then the speedy is definitely going to close any argument before it even starts
Great segment and suit Teddy. Nice watch too, all the best.
Exquisite craftsmanship let down by the date positioning, the choice of fonts -- too many different font types which show a lack of consistency in terms of visual appearance, the slight trapezoidal date window, which pushed Breguet for some reason to make the second (date) figure larger than the first. And I also have to mention the positioning if the "Swiss Made"... I'd really like to learn the reasoning of why it was placed here. This makes for a really busy dial that contrasts negatively to the build quality of these watches.
I think that the Longines Big Eye is a much better execution in terms of visual appearance than both these watches.
@8rick1ane No, you're not, it is :)
I own a Breguet Type XX Transatlantique ref 3820 from 2004. Which I acquired in 2009 in mint condition and full set. I love the fact it’s not so common, looks great and runs well. I always get compliments when I wear it.
Great looking watch! 😍
I am proud of my Longines Bigeye!
The Breitling AVI chrono P51 mustang that they just released a couple weeks ago are nice and have similar look, dimensions and date window at 6 o clock
I have always consider type XX -XXI -XXII alongside with zenith and other high beats chronos above mainstream chronographs that people tend to overlooked and overhyped!
No need to time something in 1/10th of a second... Zenith should ditch that useless feature.
I like these watches because i like BREGUET, their history, their knowledges . Reading the other comments, it seems that i am the only one to like BREGUET . I don't talk about the evolution of prices . BREGUET is in a world where you can create and start a company with a unique watch for 500 000 $ (Richard Mille) . BREGUET is underrated . Since 1775 there have designed so many new systems (complications) . I hope that the swatch group will made the maximum to promote BREGUET in the world of billionnaires.
What "other" comments did you find criticizing Breguet? Huge majority, including myself, love them.
Now i am undecided i like the speedmaster racing but i saw this i like the xx with the aviation heritage
Me too...but I tried the speed master racing on and the 5 Bar WR is a serious let down, no screw down crown. More like 3 bar. Just lazy on Omegas part to not have 10 Bar w screw down crowns.
Very glad I got the now dicontinued type XXi instead.
Sorry to nit-pick, this doesn't represent my overall view of these watches, but aren't there some pretty obvious imperfections on the inside edge of the trailing side of the military version's 30 minute totalizer? 10:31
Quite a surprising lapse in quality.
I've always liked the Type XX/XXI. I aspire to own the 3810 Transatlantique. I'd much rather have one of them than the Daytona.
With that said, I'm not sure that I am excited for this release. A new movement is intriguing, but I don't think I could ever bring myself to pay 2-3 times the price of the one that I want for one that is new.
Will there be a new type XXI and XXII?
Yes, where is a new XXII please ???????
Put the date in 6 o clock position ., Look more balance .
Sehr schöne sportliche Breguet Uhren! ❤😊❤
Love both watches. It would be tough to pick between the two
EBEL uses the same Lemania based movement on their 1911 Chronographs.
They FINALLY are using a column wheel verticle clutch movement in these, and have added quarter of a minute markers to the 12 hour dial so that the 15 minute subdial makes sense and is usable. However, they added a date and an open caseback. A couple steps forward, a couple steps backwards. And also, shouldn't there be millisecond markers on a proper chronograph?
Fantastique watch.
A gmt bezel with a chrono is a great combo
Wow is a nice video!
Elegant
lot of Longines BigEye vibe!
Breguet is the big brother of Longines in the Swatch Group, so it makes sense.
Breitling AVI Ref 765 too!
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Just adorable 🥰 😍😍😍😍
These watches have very good appeal since it substantially is an uodate to the original Type 20 produced by Breguet for the French Air Force and French Naval Air Arm. The calibers are tasty.
That said, I find myself still preferring the Type XXI 3817 over these 2 wonderful releases.
3815, still my favorite
The movement is nice but the watch itself is so so, not for me definitely, but they do have the classics that o really like.
Waw so fast propose a review! Good breguet contact 😊, this watch very iconic but again 42mm.... if it is like 3810 and 3817 it will be again too big for most of wirst, price grow up again 😮 also
Double the price of the last XX with half the watch ... Movement seems great but everything else is a huge miss, even the finishing isnt up to much in comparison to its predecessor
Agree 100%. With the exception of the new movement, the rest is just a complete miss, particularly relative to OnlyWatch Type 20s
The previous gen you couldnt even see the caseback....amd it was an out of house movement
Well, this new movement looks really nice but it needs time to prove that it is worthy and the 36000 frequency means frequent service, which is not going to be cheap to put it nicely and only Breguet can do the job. And money is not the main problem. Breguet are notoriously known for slow service. It takes months and months. Lemania 1350 on the other hand, is a very robust movement tested by time and spare parts are available if you get an old Ebel 1911 as a donor. Not every watchmaker can service Lemania 1350 these days but it is not a big problem.
Just make that only watch a production model and they would have had a home run
18k for a tool watch is too much!
Like 99.9999% of chronographs it's for admiring. Definitely not a tool watch.
The military one looks very similar to my Hanhart 417es. 😂😂😂😉
That date window is unfortunate. Nice movement and the aesthetic excluding that window is great. Have to wear it in person but I'd bet 40mm would wear very strong, just as the older 38mm does.
The dial doesn’t need the date…..it looks over crowded to me
Nice. But I prefer the older type xxi. I just found it to be more elegant, more "Breguet..."
The older type XXI was a big beast of a watch though (42.5mm)
@@rey_s90 it was, and quite tall as well, especially with the domed crystal, but God help me, I love it. 😁😎
wonderful watch, but that date placement!
I can’t be objective. I love the brand.
I think I prefer the bi-compax 20 over the XX.
They could have moved that date window on that one though, I hate the date at 4pm. It would stop me buying one I think it looks that bad!
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Why on earth did they put a date on it? I got the type XX lookalike, Longines Avigation BigEye, a few years ago for $1600 on the grey market. Still on the lookout for an original Aeronavale 39mm but the Longines will have to do for now.
What a missed opportunity
Plus who decided on the date!!&
Type 20 military 39mm no date and will be mine…..
Omega speedy 321 or new type xx? Can’t decide between the two.
Type XX. I have them both and one is very common, the other more unique. You will enjoy either, I am sure. Good luck!
Definitely 321, based on looks alone.
Calibre 321 is rare and only about 1000-2000 is made yearly. I called my omega AD and he said yeah it’s probably not going to happen. I’m sure it’s reserved for their high spenders. Just buying a BP FF from him last year wasn’t going to cut it for me. lol
Get yourself a Type XX ref.3800 second hand in good condition with box / papers at < $7k, and be done with.
Now all I need is to win a lottery
They did these right
Ugh that date window🤮
Agreed, looks out of place and ugly.
Idk I love it 🙃
My Seiko Speedtimer unfortunately has the same 4:30 date window, but it also cost many many times less than this Type XX. Breguet should've known better.
I don't like it too lol
Its not that bad
I love previous version 38-- . New one look like many other from different companies . And first of all I hate lost of Caseband fluting, what is Breguet signature .
How have they messed up so badly? They just needed to do a no date at 40mm 🤷♂
Watch is nice
@@bdegrds To my eye the Breitling AVI Ref. 765 1953 Re-editionis much nicer looking and less than half the price. I don't get what this watch is offering over that.
I go with the awesome Breguet type xx Aeronaval 39mm no date with the Lemania. That watch is iconic and you can find them between 5 and7k. These new ones are terrible with a price tag that makes 0 sense
The one of one they made a few years ago was stunning, all they needed to do was release that in a slightly different colour...
$18,000? Nice watches. I think the GS 5 hz chronograph is a better deal, but Breguet is Breguet. I wouldn’t want to spend that much money when there are other competitors like Zenith and GS at 5hz Chronos substantially cheaper and really good watches.
All they needed to do was update the bracelet, clasp and movement. The 3800s were nearly perfect from a design standpoint.
Proof everything only gets worse
The military is the winner here. But come on, why why why the 430 date window? Also did this civilian or Longines Big Eye come first? Extremely similar.
Wow they fixed these
Looks very similar to the Breitling AVI ref. 765 1953 re-edition…….?
The Breitling is way way nicer looking though.
Type XX was never made by Breguet, it has nothing to do with their heritage. They were produced under contract by Mathey Tissot, so neither the design, nor manufacturing was done by Breguet
I hate the 3 o'clock wheel that cuts into the hour numbers. I hate the ugly date window at 4:30. Love Breguet, but would never buy one of these. Love the older type 20's and 21's. Too large also. Looks a little cheap.
Oh man...take my money. I sorta wish it had Breguet hands, but I understand that they wouldn't make sense on this watch.
I love how they destroyed this iconic chrono with an effin date window at 4? Damn….
Unless money's no object and you REALLY love Breguet, it makes no sense to get this over a Breitling 765, which is what inspired the Type XX.
I like the watch, but the price doesn't make sense, it should be priced competitively with IWC pilot.
Breguet is in a different league... You cannot compare with the IWC Pilot. Having said that, I agree it's priced aggressively.
Don’t worry. You’ll be able to pick it up at a fraction of MSRP in the preowned market in a few years. Breguet has not been good at keeping their value even during the pandemic period when competitors’ preown prices skyrocketed.
@@gripeace That's right. The older Type XX is still a decent bargain.
@@rrs1234567 IWC are high end watches contrary to internet trolls, their a brand that attracts hate online, but in the watch world are as highly regarded as breguet, both are high horology, both are some of the finest watch brands.
@@gripeace unfortunately you are correct, breguet don't hold value as well as they should
I’m not enamoured with these if I’m being absolutely honest.
The Longines big eye is nicer and MUCH cheaper.
I prefer the type XXs from a few years back
Like the ridiculous new ingenieur, this is ridiculously overpriced in my opinion
These are huge let down for me. Feel like the date window placement is a miss and sure some nice upgrades but it's also twice the price of the original. I get it's Breguet who IMO is highly underrated but still 18K MSRP??? that's alot.
That date window at 4.30? Oh dear ...
The Breguet is undeniably beautiful! However, it seems like Breguet is out of touch with the market. The case size is just too large, and the price is ridiculously inviting the gray market. As someone who appreciates the brand's rich legacy and owns Breguet watches, it's disheartening to see them struggle with product design and marketing. It's particularly surprising since they're part of the Swatch Group, a renowned company. Hopefully, Breguet can realign their approach soon and regain their footing in the industry.