The Big Build Fitting a staircase Part 1 Episode 43
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ส.ค. 2024
- We are fitting the new Stairbox staircase at the Big Build and it is super satisfying to be at this stage of the project, This is also Ed's first staircase so I am showing hime the tips a tricks along the way
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Nice to see Ed is actually being taught! Not just "pass this, pass that, go to the van, put the kettle on"!
That's called a gopher. Go for this, go for that...
Has he been sent for tartan paint yet...? ☺️
Sweet job ! American carpenter watcher here.
Great company stairbox …. So professional and helpful …. And of course a great product
Thanks Robin .. the time flies by soo fast with these longer vids ... super packed with your wisdom, great education and stellar results. Cheers!
I thank you for putting in an oak staircase. As a sandblaster myself I love the oak staircases instead of the cheap stuff. Oak blasts well and will always give a nice rich look when you finish it.
Top video Robin 👍 My little tip if anyone interested. Before I put my dowels in I slide them into the newel post before attaching it to the tenon and push it in until it will go no further. I put a line on the dowel as a reference point for when I finally tap them in I know how far I can knock it home to prevent busting the newel post out. It just saves relying on the sound change alone 👌
Love StairBox! They always go together spot on, super helpful company to deal with and if there’s every any issues then they sort it very quickly.
Oak is such a great material, staircase is adding quality to a lovely house project.
Its like watching Ronnie Corbett and Greg Davies at work. Nice work as always Robin 👌
Love stairbox . Never had a bad set. This one looks amazing 👏
Yes give the big lad the jobs in the small spaces! 😄
Nice job Robin and nice to see apprentices being taught properly, you really are a credit to the carpentry and building trade. Years ago we use to have to fit 2 winding flights or 4 straight flights in a day on site work, once you knew the system it was ok. Not much time for a tea break though. We must have been mad, I think they were Boulton and Paul Joinery stairs if memory serves.
Brilliant video Robin, so easily to forget temperature and humidity when working with beautiful timber.
Great learning curve for Ed to see and be involved in the assemble and to highlight how important it is to keep everything clean as you go along!
Fantastic craftsmanship as always.
Takes me back some 40 years when I did my apprenticeship, I always remember the tradesman which taught me say “engineers work to a 1000th on an inch, carpenters work to spot on !
All the best chaps 👍
Looks amazing Robin. 👏🏼
Thank you! 😊
Hi Rob,,,absolutely love your channel,,, i have a small joinery business and specialize in making stairs,, and as you know there is so much satisfaction in making and fitting i nice oak winder with all the trims etc,, You explain things very clearly and have the balance of work and talk just perfect, as i finish a hard day putting together and fitting the latest set, i still come home and fire up the youtube and watch you do exactly the same thing ive done that day,,, much easier watching you Rob,, and your tools are not covered in pu glue like most of mine are.
May i just say that myself and im sure many others would love to see you measure up and set out a hand made set,
I dont use a cnc or anything like that,, im an old school chippy 55, who makes it all by hand. Anyway Rob,,, great channel mate, infact its the best channel to watch.
Best regards Staircase Dave
Hi David, I have built many staircases from scratch mainly onsite where there was an awkward detail that was hard to convey to the bench in a remote workshop, I will try at some point to get the time to make a staircase on camera just for you!! Thanks for watching the channel mate and your kind words!!
@@ukconstruction thanks Rob,,, will look forward to that
Perfect perfect perfect Robin .. A must watch for any Carpenter Aprentice. ED will remember this for the rest of his life. This has brought back so many memory's of my years of learning days with a really wonderfull all purpose joinary company and I was tought by some amazing Carpenters & Joiners. I started in 1978 and still learning better ways today at the age of 60. Keep up the good work Ed and Robin
Thank you Mark. 😊
Nice seeing that you use Stair Box as well
Ed is a lucky boy to have such a great teacher Robin. He will become an excellent Carpenter
I am a lucky guy to have Ed too, he is hard working, reliable, fun and really wants to get on in life!! And as you say he will be an excellent carpenter!
Amazing gives me a nice warm glow watching your videos, the details are fantastic.
An excellent video Robin. Thanks for covering in such detail. Fantastic work, as always !!
so many tips dropped in this .Thank you Robin , the most detailed video
Great video as usual Robin, only thing I’d like to see is the walls milk coated and a few coats of white emulsion licked about to reduce the amount of paint that would in in proximity to the stairs 👍🏼
My Painter is a master at not getting paint on what should not be painted!! But yes it is a good idea to get as much misting done first!!
As always another great video. Your experience always comes through.
One thing I was looking forward to was to see how you got the first landing in as that seemed to be a tight fit.
I’m always amazed at how accurate you are with everything you do. It’s encouraged me to be a little more accurate in the little projects that I undertake. Thank you. 😊👍
I always am amazed at the precision you work to. My grandfather handled a saw with the same fiancé as yourself great job.
What was your grandad doing to his saw??!!!! Robin had Ed there now so he’s sorted 😜
Possible a spell check error there Kenneth? I think that should read finesse not fiance unless your grandfather had a special way with the ladies?
@@harveysmith100 his grandad knew to use the full length of the tool, long smooth strokes and to a rhythm.
Muscle memory gets it perfect so the end doesn’t fall out the slot and and up jamming into somewhere it shouldn’t 👍🏻
would love to see the stair box factory and how they make/cut/machine all those parts
Maybe I can do a visit and capture some footage
Great Robin, lots of value in your videos. The great thing for me is that in the main, the stairs are self supported.
Yes thats the beauty of a stair construction apart from a few fixings in the wall it will look after itself
I built one of these last summer after the second fix joiners left my client in the lurch. Really enjoyed the build even though the stair designer hadn't allowed for a structural steel bisecting the landing aperture. Some good problem solving and I'd love to do another. Great video as ever Rob 👍👍
Another great video rRobin👍
And you can't beat stairbox, great company and very helpful👍👌
Great job Robin and Ed, Great explanation Robin on how a Staircase fits together, Looks daunting for a beginner like Ed but learning from the best...
Many thanks!
Brilliant video Robin! Thank you and Ed.
Loved that Robin, great craftsmanship at work there 👍
Great work as ever Robin.
the staircase is looking good, lads!
Just awesome craftsmanship
Lovely Robin. I looked at the length of the video and thought it was a bit long so I will watch half tonight and the other half tomorrow. Before I knew it the end had come and I was still wishing it was longer.
I always learn something.
Finally got myself a laser level, fitted some Dado rail on Friday, so much easier with a laser level and a digital tape. Getting there slowly!
Thank you Harvey, I worry about the length of the video, the fact that you watched it all is reassuring!!! Thanks again mate!!
@@ukconstruction You have earned the right to do long videos. I am sure most people looked and thought, it is a bit long but Robin is good company and educational so it's fine.
I still think you should get yourself a Thor 31.712r soft face mallet. Have a look on Amazon
Great video Robin. Loved the outcome.
Great video Rob, thanks for sharing your tips and methodology 👍
That is one set of posh stairs. That company makes a good product. Worth the advertising. Back in the early 90's I did the Carpentry work on a new house for a Plumber mate of mine. Every bit of wood in the place was Oak. From doors to stairs to skirts and archs. All on a massive old world style with forged nail on T hinges etc. The Oak came from the mill a couple of miles down the road and all fell in the 87 hurricane. We had the quickest cleared section of road between the mill and the pub as the mill owner was determined to get there and had the machinery to do it. In Oz if I do trenched stairs the timber is often rough cut off a Lucas mill and far from regular. Tolerances have to be somewhat greater.
Great video Robin as always. Ed’s a lucky young man getting such a rich variety of work to gain experience with, not many get the chance to use such nice products/ materials on the big sites, let alone the guidance and teachings that come with it for him. He will be one to watch in a few years I’m sure! 🍻
Hi Sam, it works both ways, I am lucky to have Ed, he is great fun, has great hand eye coordination, is super hungry to learn and get on in life, is a decent family guy and very reliable and responsible, in today's labour market this is probably the most hardest to find all these qualities!! He will definitely be one to watch!! Thanks for your kind words mate
Great video mate - really enjoyed it - looking forward to seeing the rails etc being fitted ....
Really nice, thanks
Glad you like it!
Perfect starting new job and needed to be reminded how to do this. Cheers buddy
Proper stairs, not the horrible notched out ones that remove all the strength from the stringers. Nice job.
I've been waiting to see that go in. Its a beautiful staircase.
Master class👍
Great video, from start to finish, more please!
I could smell the oak as you cut the piece out of the newel 😁. Nice stair case
Great video Guys , thanks !!!!!
Would love a loft conversion so my grandsons could come and spend time with me.
Great video. Also I couldn’t help but notice how good the plastering is it looks perfect 👍
Fantastic video. Really enjoyed watching. 👍
Great job mate, well done 👍
class video. i love a staircase job. last one i did came from a staircase manufacturer in sunderland although he has since retired. it was made on a cnc machine so was absolutely spot on. you are right what you say about them being different. That staircase the middle stringer changed angle in the middle of it so it made the handrail a head scratcher... if i had ran the handrail straight it would have been really high in the middle of the run and then back to normal at the top and bottom of the run. so i had to follow the shape of the stringer with the handrail. It did my head in at the time. That staircase was a double winder.
If Ed was to jump, he could touch the ceiling on the second floor, having an 8ft. human prop is very advantageous.
Brilliant work. 👌
Like it grew there! 👍🏻
Using an old pair of Roger Bisbys underpants as a damp rag makes sense
Wow,fantastic well done
Good job!
I want to build the same , but L on the right.
I've no experience. No big space..
Excellent - another sub for you!
Well explained, educational stuff, as always Sir! So glad to see you use a rubber mallet instead of your fist! I'm wearing 3 hammers on my Diamondback lately, but I never hit wood or tin/metal with my palm or fist. I can't buy new one of those!
Really enjoyed this robin well done 👍
i didn't know andy burnham could build stairs as well
Nice job fitting the stairs,why not make a feature on the newel dowels by cutting a piece of Formica and drilling a hole same diameter as the dowel and place it over the dowels and trim them flush to the Formica to leave them slightly proud.
Should there be flooring shims under the front newels like all others?
A shorter version would be nice for my attention span 😅, but great build and commentary. Would be great to see more of the design process and how framing member sizes and brackets have been calculated etc. Although I guess this is more like just putting a puzzle together for a kitset design.
great content
Nice!
We got our stairs from stair box, excellent value and really good service. Only issue was our joiner wasn’t so good at installing and now we’ve got squeaks most of the treads. Any recommendations on methods for fixing the squeaks retrospectively?
That is a stunning staircase
Thanks Ashley
👏👍☘️🇮🇪👋 nice job 👌
Intriguing. Am I right that some newel posts stand on finished floor offcuts and some not?
Beautiful work, I enjoyed a lot the whole process.
Pardon my lack of knowledge, how does a stair like this hold up with regards to squeeking sounds that may occur in time? I know different rubber profiles can be added in order to reduce or avoid squeezing sounds, but maybe you can get away without those, or maybe not and you just assume it's gonna squeeze in time? Thanks!
Nice work! At the end of the day, what did this staircase cost? Total price of the manufactured woodwork and then the fitting charges?
Get that nail bag on young fella
Robin, great video as usual, it would be amazing if you could schedule a video on how to fix creaking and loose stairs - I’ve tried twice and had limited success my most recent lasting around 4 months until the problem returned (point to note in my case, I do not have access to the underside to add new blocking and reset wedges)
a little trick i use if no access to behind the staircase to stop squeeks is to pull the carpet off and rip down a 6mm plyboard and fix to the face of the riser below the offending tread 8 times out of ten it works , good luck
cracking video
😱 resting boxes against the VW Transporter. I have a Transporter also.
If it was my vehicle, I'd be p***ed
I didn't see any packing pieces the thickness of the flooring under the last two newels?
Question: wood pva or foam gorilla type?
Job-sa-good-un.👍👍
What a super video. Just when the tenons fit just right, is a joy to watch
Look forward to part 2.👍👏👏
Thank you Robin & Ed
Also loved your earlier video on fitting another staircase, which was a bit more fiddly than this one
Just for clarity. Is that wood Red Oak? I.e. The oak tree where the leaves turn red & the wood is white?
Your welcome!!, this is white oak, we tend to is a lot of American white oak here, however there is lots of European oak in use too
Hi Robin. You mention moisture readings several times on this new build. Can you do a video covering this aspect? In the middle of a new build with windows delayed 4 times and can’t find much info moisture content.
Hi Ian, it's a bit niche for my audience so I would only include that content in a video about other aspects of building, however if you are concerned about parts of your build being affected by the late arrival of your windows then try not to get to much done that would take on moisture like plasterboard, joinery etc as it may affect the finishes, especially when you are all sealed up and the heating goes on.. I tend to get the external envelope of the building as complete as possible before we start internal finishes etc
@@ukconstruction - Thank you for getting back so fast Robin. It is an issue as the builders naturally want to crack on. The walls are now plastered and taking too long to dry out in places. As an ex-carpenter, I am designing and building my own mono-stringer stairs. Sadly the excellent Stair Box company does not offer this option (yet) Joiners are quoting £20k with the glass which I think is crazy compared to oak stairs from StairBox. Your video popped up in good time to ensure I did not go too far. Love your channel, 65 and still learning :)
Could you have used draw bore pins to line up the holes in the newel post and stringer?
Yes mate absolutely
50 mins, perfect. Stunning job, suits the build beautifully!! Will the finished floor be slid under the newel posts?
Interesting one, it’s a ‘floating’ floor, so technically it shouldn’t be. The curtail isn’t that’s why robin said he’s leaving it loose, so the can scribe round it it think.
Really the newl posts should go to the concrete floor and then be notched to accept the floating floor as the weight of the stairs could trap the floor preventing it from being able to move.
I noticed you have some gaps where the glue blocks meet the treads/risers, i have this same issue on a new staircase i have just received from stairbox, would you be concerned about squeaking in the future or them failing? My staircase is going to be boarded and skimmed underneath so no access afterwards for repair. Thanks
Good job of fitting but why do they build stairs now without a shouldered tenon and just let in the whole thickness of the string ? and no mortise for the handrail ? Must be to cut costs I guess.
My thoughts also!
Robin. Why do you carry around the scaffold spanner/podger when you are working indoors and especially today when there is lots of vulnerable oak about?
I carry all manner of tools in the pouch, I do not remember that they are even there sometimes, The diamondback pouch holds the podger secure and the maerial that holds it would stop it bruising any material if you where to get to close!!
Could you use an adjustably foot at the bottom of the newel?
Nice job, Robin; pushing an old guy down those stairs would get the poor sod well pissed off but content to have bashed their ancient skulls against a masterpiece. :D I think all carpenters should test their staircases by pushing down obnoxious old people and politicians..
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What kind of joint is used to attach the level wall string to the top flight of stairs, on the quarter landing?
Thats a domino Kevin, it's a great joint mate
@@ukconstruction Thank you, thought it might be after I asked.
Hi Robin can I ask you what is the size of the square at 3:31 and where can I get one from. Love your videos please keep them going. Cheers.
Hi Gary, this is my metric rafter square that I am planning to produce and sell, it's slightly bigger than a typical framing square with specific markings and an App that comes with it, thanks for you kind words and watching!!
is there a reason you don't use polyurethane glue? I was taught to use it with a staircase however now I'm thinking that's wrong considering you don't.
How much assembly time does that glue give you? "Longer" is meaningless.
hi robin why dont the stair posts lineup in height, thats the only thing that looks unusual
They are all following the sloping strings parallel, when the hand rails go in then they will look completely different,
@@ukconstruction yes that makes perfect sense, never in doubt robin true professional in every sense of the word
no glue ed on those dowels
Nice work as always. Is it the camera angle or is Ed 2 feet taller than Robin?
Hi Robin, been following your channel for a while, in fact had Southern Screed in three weeks ago after your Capel build series on SB. Out of interest, what humidity sensor/ app do you use? Thanks!
Hi Gavin, I use a small device and it's called sensor push check it out at my amazon store just search for me on Amazon!! Its brilliant
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