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- These are the best classes and specs overall that you can play in PvP on Cataclysm!
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imo hunter has the most insane tool set with all the pet resetting and basically a prep for hunters. plus dummy damage
Amazing I'm going for feral druid thanks for the video
Very good choice! 😁
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Nice video thanks a lot man..!! May I Ask you somthing please??? Whats the best race for horde if u wanna play hunter..???
Orc is definitely the best for hunter
Hey, great video. What classes are the easiest to do arenas iyo?
Holy paladin, Unholy and Frost DK
Great video! For feral + healer, what are the advantages and disadvantages of disc, hpala and restoshaman, respectively? Cheers!
For feral disc is your best healer. The comp relies on heavy CC for it to work cause ferals have no MS. You will be ok with either at lower ratings but once you match people who know how to play it will be hard for you to land kills without CC chains. Also the offensive power of disc priest with purges and their dmg will help you burst down targets when one is CC'd.
pro tip, play feral + rogue in 2v2 and.... well see for yourself :D
disc is more offensive and has more ways of how it can be played - with dispels, mana burns, a lot of crowd control, but it's also the squishiest healer and has the highest skill cap of all, r sham and h pal are both a lot more defensive, usually longer games, but safer and easier playstyles
Disc strengths: best cchain potential, mana burn as a win condition, offensive dispels, both cyclone and MC usable to prevent kill target from being healed up, arguably the best mana back, dispel taking off 2 magic effects letting your melee stay on a mage more
Disc weaknesses: easiest to tunnel down, especially by warriors and dks, worst mobility, weaker healing output than the other two. All of those are well compensated since feral has the best survi in the game and one of the best peels as well.
Shaman strengths: the best passive healing, can break cc on his dps through spirit link, purge + shear + grounding makes him very annoying for casters, hex being undispellable by 2 healers, wolf form + earthbind makes it very easy to kite anybody around pillar except dks and ferals.
Shaman weaknesses: least contributing to offensive so be prepared for long and boring games without much of setting up your gos, any rogue can prevent his only big cd for 10 seconds, hex being dispellable by 3 dps classes.
Paladin strengths: BoM brings out full potential from your melee dps, by far most cooldowns so you can have a lot of answers for 2x dps that last long, can trinket your blinds and such via HoP, hardest to train for melee, least necessity for hard casting.
Paladin weaknesses: 4 of their cooldowns are dispellable (so also stealable), has no range defense against hard casted spammable CC like SWD or Shear except for sac, all healing is direct meaning once cchain starts it's reduced to 0, provides slightly better offensive support than shaman but is still far cry from priests. Because of that cc vulnerability, they are basically forced to kiss pillar 24/7 against mages and warlocks.
@@Reality-Distortion wow, thanks for your detailed response!
Just started playing my rogue in cata yesterday.. super fun
Good choice!
Hi meytrix! How hard would you rank feral difficulty wise for pvp. I am a begginer to intermediate sub rogue player.
Hey, veeeery difficult, skill ceiling for it is super high, but for you to be a decent feral isn’t that hard, it’s just that there’s always another way how you could play it, but it’s relatively similar playstyle to rogue
hey, im a retail player - i still have lvl boost since tbc it got now upgraded to lvl 80 boost and i want to make a character to run some bg's and arenas in cata. Which one would you recommend between hunter, mage, warrior and rogue for a casual cata pvp player? want something fun and rather easy :)
None of the 4 are easy, warrior is the easiest but also doesn’t perform as well, so I don’t think I am gonna help you much with choosing the right one 😐 but I made a few videos going through what the classes offer and how they are on Cata, you could check those out to get a better idea
What do you think about your main, Ret Pal? Where in the top 10 would it belong? Ty for the amazing video yet again btw.
Somewhere around 7th place overall, very solid in every regard, all the off healing you can do and support, paired with solid dps and great burst, lacks CC a bit and has no slows or better defensives, that is it’s only weakness
@@MEYTRIXI played double ret to 2400 with a buddy in old Cata. Just selfless healer all your procs and wogs into eachother for bigger heals & dmg buff it's so fun lol
Only issue with ret is no good gap closer and not great cc but if ur teammate is good I would say ret is extremely good for climbing the ladder and will probably be pretty easy to do it with especially since it can crush a rouge pretty easily and that’s what ur gonna face the most
What spec would you choose if you wanted to play PvP casually? Mostly random bgs, a few arenas or rbgs here or there? Are Frost DKs good enough?
Also, what spec would you consider the best for purely random BGs? A spec I could play casually and do well with relatively minimum effort? I’m thinking Ele or Affliction?
Thanks!
Edit: oh is Arcane Mage playable in random bgs? If I find a place to hide and turret would it do anything?
For random BGs and low effort - arcane mage or frost DK are both great options, Ele sham basically just spams Chain Lightning and does the craziest AoE pushing 1 button, so all these 3 you wouldn’t go wrong with
@@MEYTRIX thanks mate, love your vids and your presentation, keep up the good work!
Really nice vid man keep it up! What do you think about enha shamman?
i have an old 2.2k weapon enhance video if you wanna watch it to see what numbers the last patch of the expansion were like
@@SurfingJakeOwns Ty for the suggestion! Just checked it out and it looks like enha pumps. I wanna play turbo with a buddy of mine and was a bit worried if it was gonna be viable.
@@kgeo8541 yea go for it haha, who knows how well it will go this time around
It is a solid spec for pvp, not extremely impressive, lacks defensives and struggles with rogues, but otherwise good, can be very competitive
Good vid like always!❤
Thank youuu
Hey there can you help me choose between warlock hunter and sp?
Hey Lethal, the most prominent differences are pet vs no pet and caster or no caster, if this idn’t a big deal to you then you may focus on their performance (which I have made a few video comparisons including tier lists)
ty for vids
Bro is there a Firestorm discord, i had character with very good transmog sets on Freakz but now they merged with Firestorm and i can't remember username and email, maybe they can help me to recover it
They do have a Discord, yes, try looking for it on their website
Looking at the blizzcon finals results from 2011 looks like hunter hpal unholy dk fire mage affliction lock we’re all represented in the last 2 teams.
Yep, I watched that video quite a few times too 😄
hmm i kinda wanna twink one or two classes but the lvling takes so long and i dont wanna boost :(
Which professions should we prefer for Ret Pala in Catac.
Same as anyone else, Tailoring for the proc combined with your burst, Eng for world PvP and BGs, any crafting prof with +80 bonus to your main stat if you wanna play it safe
Will feral/MM or Sub/MM be good for 2v2? That’s what I’m considering playing with my partner
Those are the 2 best comps in the game, I have already made a video about best arena comps so you can check it out
@@MEYTRIX best comps ingame HAHAHAHAHAHAA
Good job !
thank you, sir!
How is ret Pally and death knight specs specifically for 1v1?
Both amazing, ret gets hard countered only by mages rly, and then rogues and ferals are very tough fights, but it can kill almost anything…and unholy DK only has big trouble with rogues and feral which hard counter it, so both are very good classes for 1v1 overall
Reckful still!!
never forget! 🥺
how u get ur healthbar in middle of the screen?
It’s an addon called Galvin’s Unit Bars
brang..this man..i remember him when i was 14...
A legend
Can't decide class for battlegrounds: mage, hunter or feral :/ I love mage playstyle btw.
If you’re talking about fire mage - play that, enjoyable and spreading AoE chaos seeing multiple enemies burn at the same time 💀
@@MEYTRIX Yeah, always loved fire but in wotlk it was squishy. Hunter is kill stealer, for me easier to play and survive - especially vs casters. Always loved survival spells but MM is still the king for pvp I guess. I will probably go mage...
rogues will make you hate life in this xpac.. seriously. Either join them or play a feral and I think hunter too for the counter. Back in the day I just remember hating playing my casters against them.
True, mages are good against rogues too but it’s still a struggle and you pay for every mistake you make
@@MEYTRIX Yeah man, my buddy is playing Shadow/disc so were gonna goof off with shadow play but I was thinking of running a feral or mage with him in twos.. I know feral is better but I have more fun with the mage.
Ahh yes this is why I play rogue the tears of casters 😂😂
im thinking of trying out also rogue with 2 very slow weapons, ,maximize evicerate and hit , for more sustain than rely on backstabs and ambushes to see if its worth it
What is the name of the nameplate addon?
Tidy Plates
Which of the top pvp specs is the easiest to play?
none of these 3, you could consider Unholy DK to be somewhat easier, that one would make it into my top 5
if youre dead set on one of these 3 MM is going to be the easiest.
the king of Cata pvp dps is Feral imo..and its not even close..
Feral is crazy
Is feral unholy good in cata 3s ?
Decent, but both of them have better options to play with
@@MEYTRIX what are the best for unholy ? My friend is playing unholy
@@DH-ht9pl MM hunter, affli warlock, SP, ret paladin
@@MEYTRIX ok thanks ^^ does boomy dk work ? 🤔
@@MEYTRIX or Fire mage even rofl
How is unholy dk ??
he is very good state, R1 viable.
top 5, Unholy in Cata is absolutely amazing
Meh, feral is OP when it comes to burst terms. But they were neutered hard in cata, u can’t break any roots, and offhealing is pretty bad besides frenzied regen. Not that many comp choices for feral either, cata is going to be filled with caster cleaves, infinite roots, cc’s, and slows that feral can’t keep up with. I will be playing feral, but mages and hunters are a big problem for feral. Just my 2 cents.
I have trouble keeping ferals off of me. Everytime I go to scare beast they get out of cat form so all u have is ice trap scatter an monkey stun to keep them off so I'd like to know how you think hunter counters feral, and not the same NPC argument of "cause im not bad 1500 noob". Actually give some logic behind your statement please. I actually want to learn and get better. Thanks for the feedback
You can break roots using dash and stampete roar. Two skills that allow you to break free from roots and give you mobility. With double charge(as you can use interrupt for gap closing the hunter for example) and sprints on root breaks feral sticks like glue.
I agree with most of what has been said here and in the replies, feral has auto-applied slows too, has roots and nature's grasp, and infinite CC as well, so sticking to a target isn't that difficult for him, for 2v2 comps: rogue, hunter, disc priest are all S tier comps for feral, ret and r sham are A tier, that is enough rank 1 viable options for me, and then in 3v3 you can combine those classes and push rank 1 realistically too, that is how I see it
literally the three classes i cant decide from haha
They’re all great, just listen to your heart 😄
Greetings, can you talk me into an Unholy DK to group with my buddies Holy Pally? I have played hunter for a huge portion of my wow career and then played Enhance shaman when wow classic came out. I have never done a DK, but I want something different and powerful for my...maybe last wow go round? Sell me the DK if you wouldn't mind! Thanks!!
Do it, Unholy+Holy is one of the best comps and DK alone is amazing in Cata, it will definitely by one of my 2 most played characters on Cata Classic too
@@MEYTRIX Boosted and ready to rock - thanks for the reply!
rogue hunter druid
hello , what is the best tank in pve in overall ?
Dk main tank, I think Druid off tank.
Blood DK
@@MEYTRIX one more question please , does swordguard embroidery, and on use trinkets like impatience of youth share cd?
@@bloodwindpvp4364 no, they don't share CD
RET PALADIN HERE !
my man!
MM hunters are busted with the pet change mechanic in cata classic at higher ratings. You can only have 1 monkey now :)
Someone said you will be able to swap pets after prepatch
Please some MoP content
Nobody plays MoP 🥲
I'd say hunter isn't as good now,. The devs removed Trap Pet technique.
Do you feel like it nerfed them that much?
@@MEYTRIX For just random Bgs its still up there, but for arenas it's gimped at high level imo.
To be fair, these classes are only OP when played by a good player lol
yep, definitely very high skill ceiling for them all and you will notice if it's being played by a newbie
How is fire mage not on this list 🤔
Gets 1 shotted by the hunters all it has is ice block needs a healer to be S tier. Doesn't matter how skilled you are or the same NPC line: I'm 2k 🤣 doesn't matter 1.2k hunters can kill fire mages without a healer
it would probably be in the top 5 along with Unholy DK, but it's still not up to par with this top 3 IMO
fire is probably top 3 for rbgs I main fire mage and hunters can be dog shit and just smoke you and it’s almost impossible to 1v1 a rogue and Druid as a fire mage
Fire mages are “fire” in BGs for sure 😁 that is where they shine the most
Fire mage good but not even close to these 3.
Pvp has turned into a noskill 1 shot fest even with same gear in prepatch. people kill eachother in 4 second or less leaving only room for CD spam and virtually 0 tactics outside of mashing your burst as fast as possible.
That is how expansions’ prepatch normally are, it’s not gonna last too long
Resi is bugged in pre-patch right now ..... its getting hot fixed with weekly reset for EU on 8th May. ....... they just need to reduce pvp gear cost even more than the 66% they did yesterday, its still too much for how little honour we get outside of Wintergrasp.
Hunter got only 1 pet in official servers
wtf did they disable pet swapping or what?
@MEYTRIX yes, no more pet dismissing spam. The cd will all be shared, no having 5 monkeys back to back for new stuns. There is a blue post about it, curious to hear your thoughts on how big of a change that would be to their overall balance
Tbh, im glad they fixed it. I love to play hunter, but i hate this constant pet swap. Makes it not fun to Play, even it was op
@@gx92muc I agree, it was pretty ridiculous seeing hunters swap their pet constantly throughout the fight, I don’t think it would be a big nerf, hunters will still be amazing
@@MEYTRIX When they release the content of the Cataclysm expansion, the Hunters' pets will work again the same as they did in the original Cataclysm. I already read Blizzard's post and that's what they say, so on May 20, Monkey Hunters lol
nah fam, this aint it . Top 3 based off purely damage is Mage Ret & rogue. Feral overall was broken, but not highest damage output over those 3
this is not a PvE dps meter list, this is performance in PvP, that is why I don't talk about dps only but CC and so on, I thought it would be perfectly obvious 🤐
@@MEYTRIX my exp and rating is x20 higher than yours, why would I be referring to pve guy
@@MEYTRIX for some reason you act like you're some top rated ret and you're literal dog water, and whenever you're corrected about your bad takes, you get defensive and sarcastic. Know your place
@@TrustXynEven if what your claiming is right, that's got to be the lamest fucking way to say it. That's literally how every shitter rages in chat when they are getting stomped.
@TrustXyn dang x20 higher exp.. you have 60k pvp rating ? What a god
Arms warrior ,sub rogue and bm hunter wete the most op specs in cata.
Arms warriors are trash on cata
idk about the OG 2010 Cata, I only played it since 2014 on privates, but many of the specs that were somewhat viable 15 years ago were pushed out later since people figured out the meta over time, but I have seen enough videos to say that arms warrior was pretty bad even back then
@@MEYTRIX yerah, I dont see many warriors on the top of the ladder on cata private servers
And all three classes/specs are super hard to play...
And the game would be super boring. If all specs and classes were super easy…
But hey! Practice makes perfect.
Yep, they are, there’s ways how to make it easier, playing heal comps in 2v2 etc, but in the end - the better the player, the stronger the class
this vid is for those who wants to stop having fun in s2, cuz playing all these specs is repeating the same shit over and over again vs any enemy comp
rogues are not that good until DS, hunters are solid and ferals just melt to spell cleaves...
this guy is defo exped but on whitemane with its solo q and free pve shit
I actually never played much soloque at all on Whitemane
pve worship center bgs no thanks
Uh that’s reckful
Feral druid lost the ability to remove roots by shapeshifting. Saying feral druid is overpowered is a crime. Decent in arenas? Ok. Useless in BG? Probably. Overpowered? Definitely not.
Yea their dmg is over the roof and their survability too but saying they are OP is a bit too much. They don't even fit in many comps in either 2s or 3s to be in that category.
Did you just say Ferals are useless in BG's? Do you know what flag carrying is lol, what a bad take
@@Captain_Guts7 Could you carry my team's flag in Battle for gilneas please? I was doing it wrong all along it seems.
@@Lolecnik You made a blanket statement about Ferals being "probably" useless in BG's. They are the best flag carrier by leaps and bounds. Now you mention one BG where there is no flag as a valid example of Feral being useless in BGs?
Have fun whining on the internet nerd.
@@Captain_Guts7in cata they arent mandatory FC anymore. There’s tons of mobility added now in the game. Feral is good FC for bearform in cata, not because of mobility