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Hi! Great video. I have around 20K~ hours in Cata alone. (OG retail and multiple private servers over the years.) With a big part of that being maining warlock in PVE. I could provide some additional information for those few who are interested but have never played Cataclysm warlock. I am, by no means an absolute, total expert, but I have did a fair bit of research and put a lot of time into playing this class. 1. If you decide to play Warlock in pve, prepare to practice your snapshotting. It is used on every single spec, and can make or break your dps. It is very important to get good snapshots. 2. All three specs are PVE viable, but 99,9999% it's either gonna be Affliction or Demonology, if you feel like being competitive. Affliction for, obviously, cleave or long multi-target fights. But I have seen some skilled affliction locks do some serious ST dps as well. And Demonology for ST / Burst AOE situations. Destruction is... Well, far more simple, and can do some /okay/ cleave with Bane of Havoc, but it is, as one would say 'Jack of all trades, master of none.' 3. Demonology warlocks also use what's called mastery snapshot before pull. = Gather gear with as much mastery as possible, and set up 2 item sets. One is with mastery gear, the other is with your normal gear. And before pull (1-2 seconds) You use your mastery gear, pop everything, including meta and swap back into the normal gear. Metamorphosis snapshots the mastery value and can give you some ridiculous % damage boosts. But, it can also mean that if you do this late, it can brick you completely for the rest of the fight. (No hit%, no haste%... often even non-int items). 4. Demonology warlocks have 3 major variations of spec that I know of / I played. Shadowbolt filler spec that's very, very slightly better on multi target but with slightly more complex rotation (Switching to Incinerate when Molten Core procs, + You play with Glyph of Corruption for occasional instant SB procs.) Then there's Incinerate spec that pretty much just eliminates the complexity of SB spec at the trade off of very small dps difference. (You Swap Glyph of Corruption for Incinerate). And a variation of Incinerate spec, that takes away 2 talent points out of Improved Corruption and instead puts them into Doom and Gloom talent which Improves Bane of Doom crit chance. (That dot by itself can have some disgusting crits if snapshotted right. But on its own, since Demo doesn't really stack crit, the crit chance is pretty low. 5. Demonology actually weaves between demons during the rotation! For burst, You use Fel Guard, for the Demon Soul Buff (And felstorm), And then, You shadowburn-swap into Fel Hunter because it simply beats Felguard in Single target damage. Yes, that means, when your cooldowns (and procs) are coming up again, Demonology hard-cast-summons Felguard again for the Demon Soul buff, and repeats the process. 6. All three specs benefit (but are not forced to) being in the melee range so they can weave in Shadowflame. 7. You very rarely actually get to use Fel Flame. There are instances, but more often than not, Warlocks take use of the movement time to squeeze in a life tap or two when needed. 8. Affliction Warlock has by far the best execute phase of all three specs. Not only you get 12% bonus damage bellow 25% health for basically all your spells, your Drain Soul also does double the damage bellow 25% health. Drain Soul, Haunt and Drain Life refreshes your Corruption with each tick. (With a good Corruption snapshot, you're peachy with Corruption for the rest of the fight.) *A good Demonology Warlock would still probably pull ahead, simply just because of how good their single target is. 9. And one more thing, Alysrazor flying. Affli only. But so much fun! That fight by itself would convince you to learn Affliction.
Can you explain for a noob (not me of course) what snapshotting is? From point 3, I can gather it is to do with changing gear in order to maximise the buff output from mastery by changing gear, but is snapshotting like this in general? I've mained warlock since I started in OG WotLK, but back then I had no clue what I was doing.
@@PoorWax Sure! Snapshotting, as simple as possible: Unlike modern wow, When you cast a spell, let's say in this case, Immolate, the game takes a 'snapshot' of your stats at the moment of you casting them. IE: You have 100% crit chance, that 100% crit chance will remain applied to Immolate for the entirety of the dots duration, even if the buff falls off. This applies to everything. Crit, Haste, % damage bonuses, spell power, etc. So, you practically try to make your dots as powerful as they can be by casting them when you have as many buffs up as possible. About the Point 3. Your mastery increases the damage of your demons, as well as the Bonus % damage you get from your Metamorphosis. So, you stack as much mastery as possible, and same like with dots, the game takes a snapshot of your mastery, and that bonus damage % stays for the entirety of duration of your Metamorphosis. (I've seen it go as high as 115%+) And before you enter combat, you swap back to your normal gear with hit cap and haste caps and everything, and just nuke the ever living S out of the boss. Hope that answers it well! Feel free to ask anything if I haven't explained it well, or if you have any other questions.
@@Rayne113 thanks for the explanation, it makes good sense. I only have one question left: How can you apply your dots while wearing the mastery gear set (the snapshotting), and then swap your normal gear afterwards without entering combat (which prevents you from swapping gear)?
@@PoorWax The gear swap is exclusively just to boost your mastery for the Metamorphosis bonus. You basically do this during pull countdown. 1-2 seconds left, you pop all your cooldowns with your mastery gear on, then swap your item sets to your normal gear before the combat starts. (There are macros for it, if necessary.) Metamorphosis will keep the mastery bonus you had when you used it (with your mastery gear) even after you switch back to normal gear. The same kind of logic applies to that snapshot like with the dots, except it's for a buff on yourself. This is exclusively just a pre-pull thing. You can not do this in the middle of the fight. (Other than weapons.) I have uploaded a quick 30 second video showcasing the Metamorphosis snapshot.
WillE, Im having a hard time deciding who to level and warlock is one of them. Dont care about if the spec is good or bad. Torn right now with Shadow Priest, Demo Lock, Feral tank druid and rogue. But was really excited to see this video to help out. Thank you for saying demo is gonna be really good
Just try them out in beta and you’ll figure it out pretty quickly. I liked Demo, it gets Felguard at 10 now. My favorites are Survival, Enhance and Unholy.
If you actually want to try all these specs just to feel how they play i would suggest trying the whitemane private server, they have a new deathwing realm that is just cata with like 10x leveling so you can actually try all the classes out and its free
Don't worry bro, as I'm writing this comment I'm gonna generate a random number between 1 and 4, and whichever one it lands on is the class for you. Ready? 4 Play the Rogue.
Demonology will unfortunately be using Felhunter as its primary pet outside of activating the better buff for Dark Soul CD. Your opener is starting with Felguard, commanding it to do Felstorm, using Dark Soul for its much better buff with Felguard, then when Felstorm is over, you instant summon Felhunter with Soul Burn.
If we go off of the logs of private Cataclysm servers, Demonology warlock at the end of the game is by far the strongest burst DPS in the game to the point that they're stacked in guilds going for speed clear runs. During progression, however, they'll still be incredibly powerful but it remains to be seen how they fare in lower levels of gear
@@NICO-mr4ll I do agree, but Legion demo (in PvP) was so much fun. Can't say how it was in PvE, but I can see why players weren't a fan of the spec in Legion outside of PvP.
@@johnlappa5447 It was great. It was my favourite warlock spec. I know affli was often better, but building up to a big Thal'kiel was really fun. Shame they removed that spell in BfA.
what you said about soulburn: soc and nightfall isnt correct. nightfall has a pretty low ppm which isnt increased if you spread corruption. this hasnt changed until somewhere in shadowlands when nightfall scaled with several corruptions up to a specific amount.
I stopped after Wotlk but im just here to see if my old guildies are still missing Azeroth, anyone here fom Rivendare from back in the days? I was with "Final Chapter" "A Naga Stole My Bike" "Mindless Misfits" "Unhappy Circus"
The Goblin jump racial ability is *so good* for warlock in raids, it's for sure my go-to race/class combo. Just get Kalytha's Haunted Locket so you don't look like a little snot creep ;)
I hope they add the new feature from the war within to cataclysm known as the arachnophobia filter because i am deadly afraid of spiders yet want to play a game filled with spiders and blizzard needs to hold my hand instead of figuring out how to make a good game for once
Genuine question here: How bad is it that you need a filter like this? Im not really fond of spiders myself and realistic depictions in games can send a shiver down my spine, but I couldnt imagine how it can make you stop playing alltogether.
@@cioncioff9555 It can be bad, I have a major aversion to larger sliders, like tarantulas. As I had my head pushed into a terrarium holding one when I was 9 years old. It took two adults to pry my arms off the throat of the kid who did that after I completely flipped out on him. I was in shock for the next hour or so after that. Oh, nd the thing was still able to produce venom. Had I been bit in the face at that age, it could have killed me. Unfortunately, back then teachers didn’t lose their job and get sued into oblivion for that level of negligence.
From what I can tell, no. All spell attributes from buffs are re-checked when cast/refreshed. But for demo.... You can still snapshot your mastery when you meta
@@stuartrobertson5062does UA snapshot also? It can be refreshed with felflame and some sources i read say this is the way to go to keep a strong UA on a target but then I read on other sources it's a dps loss to felflame refresh UA.
people say cata killed the OG world but honestly i think its only because blizz never decided to update the game after the fact, so now its 10 years later and the entire world still looks like it was just destroyed by deathwing yesterday
You could make an argument for MoP for certain specs; for Ele it's mostly the same thing, except Lava Surge procs are instant, you get Ascendance, and Elemental Blast. Destro is another one that I feel the peak was in MoP, and the damage was much better to boot. I'm also a MoP Warrior fanboy. I prefer Cata for specs like Ret, Boomie, every Mage spec (because the lvl 90 talents were garbage in MoP), and Hunter. So for me I'd say Cata to MoP was the sweet spot for class design... in MoP I think certain specs had too many extra damage CDs (they all share the same function) that could be cleaned up, and although many MoP additions were good for PvP that was when homogenization was at its height. I think you can make everything viable without giving them all the same tools.
@@naejimba Cata Hunter is great, especially survival but MoP Hunter is quite a bit more enjoyable for both Surv and BM. Beastial Cleave, Trap Launcher baseline Barrage, Glaive Toss, Stampede, Auto Hunter’s Mark, a nice CC stun, better variety and power from pets etc.
You ain't there is a common view that destro is only for pvp or not good enough to bring to raid. Yet, early sims are showing destro on par with demo and better than affliction
... The changes are all good though. It's obviously fine if you want to switch classes, but you're fooling yourself if you think the Cata changes are why.
I look forward to hearing from the Demo tryhards that will farm for the Moonwell Chalice trinket in 4.2 content and complain about the mastery clown set into meta before pulls. That's when Demo and fury warriors reached their peak ridiculous min-max.
enh/dk/rogue/ret also do some pre-pull item swaps with previous tier sets. enh especially suffers if they get stuck in their gear set since it's using icc 2set
soul harvest is a great example of how wow completely went in the wrong direction 55% health heal every 30 seconds? the entire point of warlock in vanilla was that they had amazing sustain, that you balanced with your abilities. now they just press a button? idiotic design was on the fence about cata but after seeing these changes i will def not be playing it
bro just STOP bringing up demon hunter going to take warlock meta away please it's just so depressing ,, blizzard is stupid for removing warlock meta, we can just keep 2 kinds of metas it really doesnt change anything. everyone will be Tmogging Corrupted Ashbringer , who really cares about lore now, we can run around in classic with 2 types of Metamorphosis it's absolutely fine
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I loved the Staysafe corrupted ashbringer reference 😂
I had completely forgotten that happened before he brought it up lol.
Hi! Great video.
I have around 20K~ hours in Cata alone. (OG retail and multiple private servers over the years.) With a big part of that being maining warlock in PVE. I could provide some additional information for those few who are interested but have never played Cataclysm warlock. I am, by no means an absolute, total expert, but I have did a fair bit of research and put a lot of time into playing this class.
1. If you decide to play Warlock in pve, prepare to practice your snapshotting. It is used on every single spec, and can make or break your dps. It is very important to get good snapshots.
2. All three specs are PVE viable, but 99,9999% it's either gonna be Affliction or Demonology, if you feel like being competitive. Affliction for, obviously, cleave or long multi-target fights.
But I have seen some skilled affliction locks do some serious ST dps as well.
And Demonology for ST / Burst AOE situations.
Destruction is... Well, far more simple, and can do some /okay/ cleave with Bane of Havoc, but it is, as one would say 'Jack of all trades, master of none.'
3. Demonology warlocks also use what's called mastery snapshot before pull. = Gather gear with as much mastery as possible, and set up 2 item sets. One is with mastery gear, the other is with your normal gear. And before pull (1-2 seconds) You use your mastery gear, pop everything, including meta and swap back into the normal gear. Metamorphosis snapshots the mastery value and can give you some ridiculous % damage boosts. But, it can also mean that if you do this late, it can brick you completely for the rest of the fight. (No hit%, no haste%... often even non-int items).
4. Demonology warlocks have 3 major variations of spec that I know of / I played. Shadowbolt filler spec that's very, very slightly better on multi target but with slightly more complex rotation (Switching to Incinerate when Molten Core procs, + You play with Glyph of Corruption for occasional instant SB procs.)
Then there's Incinerate spec that pretty much just eliminates the complexity of SB spec at the trade off of very small dps difference. (You Swap Glyph of Corruption for Incinerate).
And a variation of Incinerate spec, that takes away 2 talent points out of Improved Corruption and instead puts them into Doom and Gloom talent which Improves Bane of Doom crit chance. (That dot by itself can have some disgusting crits if snapshotted right. But on its own, since Demo doesn't really stack crit, the crit chance is pretty low.
5. Demonology actually weaves between demons during the rotation! For burst, You use Fel Guard, for the Demon Soul Buff (And felstorm), And then, You shadowburn-swap into Fel Hunter because it simply beats Felguard in Single target damage. Yes, that means, when your cooldowns (and procs) are coming up again, Demonology hard-cast-summons Felguard again for the Demon Soul buff, and repeats the process.
6. All three specs benefit (but are not forced to) being in the melee range so they can weave in Shadowflame.
7. You very rarely actually get to use Fel Flame. There are instances, but more often than not, Warlocks take use of the movement time to squeeze in a life tap or two when needed.
8. Affliction Warlock has by far the best execute phase of all three specs. Not only you get 12% bonus damage bellow 25% health for basically all your spells, your Drain Soul also does double the damage bellow 25% health. Drain Soul, Haunt and Drain Life refreshes your Corruption with each tick. (With a good Corruption snapshot, you're peachy with Corruption for the rest of the fight.) *A good Demonology Warlock would still probably pull ahead, simply just because of how good their single target is.
9. And one more thing, Alysrazor flying. Affli only. But so much fun! That fight by itself would convince you to learn Affliction.
Can you explain for a noob (not me of course) what snapshotting is? From point 3, I can gather it is to do with changing gear in order to maximise the buff output from mastery by changing gear, but is snapshotting like this in general?
I've mained warlock since I started in OG WotLK, but back then I had no clue what I was doing.
@@PoorWax Sure!
Snapshotting, as simple as possible: Unlike modern wow, When you cast a spell, let's say in this case, Immolate, the game takes a 'snapshot' of your stats at the moment of you casting them. IE: You have 100% crit chance, that 100% crit chance will remain applied to Immolate for the entirety of the dots duration, even if the buff falls off. This applies to everything. Crit, Haste, % damage bonuses, spell power, etc. So, you practically try to make your dots as powerful as they can be by casting them when you have as many buffs up as possible.
About the Point 3. Your mastery increases the damage of your demons, as well as the Bonus % damage you get from your Metamorphosis. So, you stack as much mastery as possible, and same like with dots, the game takes a snapshot of your mastery, and that bonus damage % stays for the entirety of duration of your Metamorphosis. (I've seen it go as high as 115%+) And before you enter combat, you swap back to your normal gear with hit cap and haste caps and everything, and just nuke the ever living S out of the boss.
Hope that answers it well! Feel free to ask anything if I haven't explained it well, or if you have any other questions.
@@Rayne113 thanks for the explanation, it makes good sense. I only have one question left:
How can you apply your dots while wearing the mastery gear set (the snapshotting), and then swap your normal gear afterwards without entering combat (which prevents you from swapping gear)?
@@PoorWax The gear swap is exclusively just to boost your mastery for the Metamorphosis bonus. You basically do this during pull countdown. 1-2 seconds left, you pop all your cooldowns with your mastery gear on, then swap your item sets to your normal gear before the combat starts. (There are macros for it, if necessary.) Metamorphosis will keep the mastery bonus you had when you used it (with your mastery gear) even after you switch back to normal gear. The same kind of logic applies to that snapshot like with the dots, except it's for a buff on yourself.
This is exclusively just a pre-pull thing. You can not do this in the middle of the fight. (Other than weapons.)
I have uploaded a quick 30 second video showcasing the Metamorphosis snapshot.
@@Rayne113 ahh, that makes much more sense.
16:18 look at that gnome psycho smile under the tier set helm, nice lock looking 😂
God i hate gnomes 😂
WillE, Im having a hard time deciding who to level and warlock is one of them. Dont care about if the spec is good or bad. Torn right now with Shadow Priest, Demo Lock, Feral tank druid and rogue. But was really excited to see this video to help out. Thank you for saying demo is gonna be really good
Just try them out in beta and you’ll figure it out pretty quickly. I liked Demo, it gets Felguard at 10 now.
My favorites are Survival, Enhance and Unholy.
If you actually want to try all these specs just to feel how they play i would suggest trying the whitemane private server, they have a new deathwing realm that is just cata with like 10x leveling so you can actually try all the classes out and its free
Don't worry bro, as I'm writing this comment I'm gonna generate a random number between 1 and 4, and whichever one it lands on is the class for you. Ready?
4
Play the Rogue.
bruh, the human is level 86 at 2:27
Back in the day I played Destro, but requires to stand still, but you can hardly ever just stand there and cast for seconds on end
Shaman please!
THIS!
Demonology will unfortunately be using Felhunter as its primary pet outside of activating the better buff for Dark Soul CD. Your opener is starting with Felguard, commanding it to do Felstorm, using Dark Soul for its much better buff with Felguard, then when Felstorm is over, you instant summon Felhunter with Soul Burn.
How much of a DPS difference is it to just keep felgaurd out
I would also like to know!@@emansfield2017
If we go off of the logs of private Cataclysm servers, Demonology warlock at the end of the game is by far the strongest burst DPS in the game to the point that they're stacked in guilds going for speed clear runs. During progression, however, they'll still be incredibly powerful but it remains to be seen how they fare in lower levels of gear
If I remember lock had waaay too many buttons to press in cata but if you wan't to play a dot class Cata was it.
I remember arenas as Aff with Tarecgosa staff and the AoE Shadowbolt trinket from Dragon Soul....probably the most fun I've ever had in WoW.
Appreciate the coverage!
Is hunter or lock or mage better in cata
This is such a good in depth guide thank you
great vid as usual, I personally like the look of the first and third set - the second one doesn't look fiery enough for the theme of the raid
Cata Demo is pretty awesome. Shame that they ruined the spec in Legion when adding Demon Hunter
yea trash legion xpac, let it be a seperate client after MoP. just leave cata/ mop era so we keep the old pattern i dont mind
@@NICO-mr4ll I do agree, but Legion demo (in PvP) was so much fun. Can't say how it was in PvE, but I can see why players weren't a fan of the spec in Legion outside of PvP.
@@johnlappa5447 It was great. It was my favourite warlock spec. I know affli was often better, but building up to a big Thal'kiel was really fun.
Shame they removed that spell in BfA.
what you said about soulburn: soc and nightfall isnt correct. nightfall has a pretty low ppm which isnt increased if you spread corruption. this hasnt changed until somewhere in shadowlands when nightfall scaled with several corruptions up to a specific amount.
I stopped after Wotlk but im just here to see if my old guildies are still missing Azeroth, anyone here fom Rivendare from back in the days? I was with
"Final Chapter"
"A Naga Stole My Bike"
"Mindless Misfits"
"Unhappy Circus"
"A Naga Stole My Bike"
@@goldenmemes51haha knew id find some people. I was the first person to get Shadowmourne. Good times man. Still play wow?
@@FantasyYeetthat guild was on a bunch of servers i played on
@@H41030v3rki110ny0uit was on Rivendare. A decade ago. Its crazy because a decade ago feela like yesterday. Oh. How time flies.
Its been a long time but do you remember Phoenix, Tarp, Zephie, Relinquished, Sparta, Tegon, Finalchapter, JeezusKryst lol. All good guildmates :(
The Goblin jump racial ability is *so good* for warlock in raids, it's for sure my go-to race/class combo. Just get Kalytha's Haunted Locket so you don't look like a little snot creep ;)
Orc racial is laughing so hard seeing that comment
Goblin jump is not worth it at all until the distance buff later in WoW.
Isn't troll bis?
Doesn't beat troll warlock sadly
You should be playing fem gob because its based not for a racial
I hope they add the new feature from the war within to cataclysm known as the arachnophobia filter because i am deadly afraid of spiders yet want to play a game filled with spiders and blizzard needs to hold my hand instead of figuring out how to make a good game for once
Genuine question here: How bad is it that you need a filter like this? Im not really fond of spiders myself and realistic depictions in games can send a shiver down my spine, but I couldnt imagine how it can make you stop playing alltogether.
Hes trolling dumbo
Iirc there is one spider boss in firelands
Ok
@@cioncioff9555
It can be bad, I have a major aversion to larger sliders, like tarantulas. As I had my head pushed into a terrarium holding one when I was 9 years old. It took two adults to pry my arms off the throat of the kid who did that after I completely flipped out on him. I was in shock for the next hour or so after that.
Oh, nd the thing was still able to produce venom. Had I been bit in the face at that age, it could have killed me. Unfortunately, back then teachers didn’t lose their job and get sued into oblivion for that level of negligence.
Tips for troll destruction lock?
Do you still need to snapshot dots in Cata Affliction?
From what I can tell, no. All spell attributes from buffs are re-checked when cast/refreshed. But for demo.... You can still snapshot your mastery when you meta
you can snapshot a corruption for the entire fight I believe
@@stuartrobertson5062does UA snapshot also? It can be refreshed with felflame and some sources i read say this is the way to go to keep a strong UA on a target but then I read on other sources it's a dps loss to felflame refresh UA.
@@astrosandorbits5532 i was talking about this build of beta I think its all different now
Felhunter summoning his pet Warlock
Missing the streams mate 😢 @WillE
bummed you didnt talk about the meta glyph that lets you tank
There is none.
That was in MOP afaik.
ah damn it was mop? well nvm then guess im not excited anymore
Just can't beat this class fantasy especially with those great looking raid sets :)
It's pretty great, but all classes are in Cata. It's no wonder Cata was the peak of class design until Shadowlands and Dragonflight.
people say cata killed the OG world but honestly i think its only because blizz never decided to update the game after the fact, so now its 10 years later and the entire world still looks like it was just destroyed by deathwing yesterday
Cata classes were a big step in the right direction but MoP is when classes were at their best imo.
You could make an argument for MoP for certain specs; for Ele it's mostly the same thing, except Lava Surge procs are instant, you get Ascendance, and Elemental Blast. Destro is another one that I feel the peak was in MoP, and the damage was much better to boot. I'm also a MoP Warrior fanboy. I prefer Cata for specs like Ret, Boomie, every Mage spec (because the lvl 90 talents were garbage in MoP), and Hunter.
So for me I'd say Cata to MoP was the sweet spot for class design... in MoP I think certain specs had too many extra damage CDs (they all share the same function) that could be cleaned up, and although many MoP additions were good for PvP that was when homogenization was at its height. I think you can make everything viable without giving them all the same tools.
@@naejimba Cata Hunter is great, especially survival but MoP Hunter is quite a bit more enjoyable for both Surv and BM.
Beastial Cleave, Trap Launcher baseline Barrage, Glaive Toss, Stampede, Auto Hunter’s Mark, a nice CC stun, better variety and power from pets etc.
The peak? You mean the begining of the end for WOW
So is dark intent equivalent to mage focus magic?
Yeah but warlocks don't want to swap it with each other, so it's a bit different, maybe locks and mages can be friends now
Also only arcane gets focus magic in cata vs all lock specs with dark intent
Willie you didn't mention how hard felhunter shadowbite hits as demonololy in cata -.-
And affli
Do warlocks have owls for pets in the fictional world?
Young boys for the most part
@@reenotto4151 What about eagles or falcons?
Did he skip explaining destro or am I tripping
Destruction is for pvp
You ain't there is a common view that destro is only for pvp or not good enough to bring to raid. Yet, early sims are showing destro on par with demo and better than affliction
Mans didn’t watch all the way thru 😂
@@Sammysapphiraeverything I've been seeing online is saying destruction isn't great in pvp and affliction is the best pvp spec by far 🤔
13:00 thank god
Ty for adding tier sets lol
Voidwalkers had stealth detection in wotlk and grimoers were last used in TBC
Grimories?
@@cristhianmlru buy them from vendors to teach demons new spells & ranks
@@cristhianmlr Gizmos!
@@cristhianmlr Grimoires
I gonna have fun in Cata will main a Blood DK :D
I can't die through melee attacks :)
2:25 Am I the only one who's gonna mention that they were 86?
Was cata any good though
Warrior next please good sir.
I'm gonna make a worgen warlock called Wargen. Get it? Don't you steal my idea now!
Have there been any news if we are getting any fresh servers for cata?
Nope and I highly doubt we will. They were a huge flop for wotlk and to add on to that after a month or two they were just like any other server.
@@parkerfrode5101 tbf at this time not all PVP server were 99%/1% pop , could be a reason why it would work now
will people play cata ?
yes
That or shaman...the classes I'm interested in lol
Same... I cant decide 😢😢😢
Hi Will!
Really enjoyed Affliction warlock in Wrath. The changes are making me look elsewhere for Cata
... The changes are all good though. It's obviously fine if you want to switch classes, but you're fooling yourself if you think the Cata changes are why.
I look forward to hearing from the Demo tryhards that will farm for the Moonwell Chalice trinket in 4.2 content and complain about the mastery clown set into meta before pulls. That's when Demo and fury warriors reached their peak ridiculous min-max.
enh/dk/rogue/ret also do some pre-pull item swaps with previous tier sets. enh especially suffers if they get stuck in their gear set since it's using icc 2set
@@Zalorel4112as it looks to be 10mans mostly i dubt enhance will see much play at all
"Instant Soul Fire every 10 seconds..." WTF u talkin about? Soulburn has 45 secs cooldown.
dear god these tier sets look horrendous.
Rogue next please :)
Tomes weren't even a thing in Wrath 😅
I originally leveled my warlock during Cataclysm. I loved demonology but disliked Metamorphosis.
NO LEGION PLEASE, Separate Legion server . keep cata / MoP
1 more expansion until we get to literally the best iteration of every warlock spec to date. Who else is excited?
Demo in mop was a mess otherwise I agree
soul harvest is a great example of how wow completely went in the wrong direction
55% health heal every 30 seconds? the entire point of warlock in vanilla was that they had amazing sustain, that you balanced with your abilities. now they just press a button? idiotic design
was on the fence about cata but after seeing these changes i will def not be playing it
Looking forward to making a gobbo warlock, n make him look gobby AF
Demo lock here i played demo since end of bc i liked demo in wrath and i cant wait for demo in cata going to finally pump!
chaos bolt got heavily nerfed in cata
Epic!!!! Warlock is my main as well as I have some videos on my channel also👍🏼👍🏼💯
Way legit videos, thank you!! Wow!!👏👏👏👏🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼😲😎💫💫✨✨💥💥
Warrior next pleae
Cata is the game
bro just STOP bringing up demon hunter going to take warlock meta away please it's just so depressing ,, blizzard is stupid for removing warlock meta, we can just keep 2 kinds of metas it really doesnt change anything. everyone will be Tmogging Corrupted Ashbringer , who really cares about lore now, we can run around in classic with 2 types of Metamorphosis it's absolutely fine
You're using "though" incorrectly.
You are living incorrectly, go find a girlfriend
@@STANKORachev😢😢😢 personally offended i see? Self reflection, hope you will be ok
@@MoonTurky there is the guy who thinks he has some degree in psychology
@@STANKORachev You are not that special, anybody can tell you are a dumbass
Deleted my warlock F
I hope meta snapshot gets removed, I really don't want to have to get a whole different set of gear for mastery snapshotting lol
terrible class, a reason why you sometimes only see 1 in an 80 man world pvp raid
unpopular opinion
its a good class, just harder to play
@@hoodsaamuraii its horribad, dead class
I'll unalive anyone who says it wasn't.
Super hyped for aff PvP