There are tyre reviews and then there are your tyre reviews. The information you provide is very detailed but what makes your videos head and shoulders above some other, similar content is the phenomenal camera work editing, colour grading and breath-taking locations!
Ooohhh ☺️ thank you so much Matt…. I really appreciate you telling me this. I always try to make my videos as good as i can, and like to show real life examples instead of just standing with a tire in my hand. Really glad you liked it. Cheers
Perfectly said Sir. The video's that Thomas produces are always top notch, and a pleasure to watch. His cabin is a wonderful place to unwind too. Not that I've ever been there. Norway is just so beautiful. 🏍🏍
Thanks for making the video Thomas. The English word is sleet - sounds the same. After trying every tire out there, from Alaskan back roads, British Columbia Backroads, highways, and rain, to Mexican sand, I'm now married to Motoz Adventure for durability, and overall traction. I don't think any one tire is perfect however, all have limitations. I used TKC 80 (on the front) on my last Baja tour spending a week in soft Mexican sand - it did OK, nothing remarkable. It's just what is the best balance for you as the rider. I know professional Baja racers and trainers that like Kenda Big Blocks on their ADV bikes ( Jimmy Lewis - KTM 1090R/ 1190R) - I've never tried them but know they are pretty soft compounds. With Jimmy, I'm sure he could ride with bald tires more effectively than 99% of riders anyway, so not sure how much tires play into his selection, besides sponsors....So there you go.
Appreciate it Shayne. Sleet is a word I have never used before so I'm learning new stuff every day 👏🏻 Thank you. I had the Motoz Adventure on my 690 back a some years ago, I should probably try them again on this bigger bike. They can be a little bit hard to come by here in Norway, and the price is normally higher than the other tires I get. And as you say, there is no perfect tire, there is just rubber between the surface and the rider that suits you or not. Cheers mate.
Hello Thomas! I have TKC70 Rocks now. I can't say a bad word about them. Lasted 10k km with almost always 2up + luggage. Great tyres! Gonna change them on friday because it's like 1mm in center left 🤣 Great video as always and really good review 😀
Hello my friend, I saw you had the same rear tire as me when we meet. Really nice to finally meet you in person and shake hands. Next time we must share more stories and maybe a coffee or beer 🔥 Cheers
Trailmax Mission is the tire. It will easily more than double your mileage. I have 12000km on my Super T with 60% 2up. Still only worn 30% and front much less wear. I can’t believe the tire wear and sticks great in twisties
Thanks for the excellent review again Thomas! Just mounted the Mitas E07+ upon your recommendation previously, will try this one next so that I can also compare the 2. Have a great riding weekend!
You are welcome Tim. I just put on a new Mitas e-07+ rear my self yesterday. But i have one tkc70 rocks and tkc80 in back order at my local dealer. Cheers
Sleet... haha, there you go! I don't think I have ever used that word. Glad to learn it as I'm beginning to be old man 🤣 How are them holding up on the big heavy adventure bike? I know the TKC80 has a different tread pattern on the smaller front. Cheers
@@tshansen yeah the rear wears out about 5k miles. Front 70 got real bad cupping as you said elsewhere. It’s my first 80 front so will see how long it lasts. Hoping about the same as rear 🤞
Hello James, nice to see you hare again as well. Well, i have way to many plans, but i hope that i manage to do some of them before season is ending. Will make the best out of every free period i got 😆 Cheers
It is one of the best I have tired, no problems stating that 😊 If it is the best of all tires? That is impossible to say, because it comes into personal preference, like music, that is the best music. All depends on the rider 👍🏻 Thank you. Cheers
Thank you Hestad 🤩👏🏻 I have a hard time making these reviews, because I’m not sure how much info i should add etc. Because everyone just seam to read out of a manual when they do reviews. I rather do it like this and show to my experience and let people decide if they think it is helpful or not. Cheers 👏🏻
Thank you for the review 👍. I’m going to try out that set up with the new bike. I had TKC80 front and rear on my XT660Z and did well on TET routes in Netherlands and Belgium. Looking for a T7 now and want to travel further while doing TET in other country’s. Thanks again 😎👌💨
I just spent the weekend at the Skog event. Two of my mates survived on TCK 70 Rocks, while I had 07+. Sufficient in dry gravel and easy single track. Btw, I had 4 perfect nights in my new tent, which your last video convinced me to finally buy.
I messed up SKOG this year, I thought it was this weekend, and when I met up with Mattias and he told me it was the weekend I was there I would have come, at least to say hello to some friends. Yeah, that is my exact experience as well. A great adv tire that holds up great on the gravel and single tracks! 👏🏻 You bought the Reinsfjell yes? Congrats mate. Really glad you enjoyed it. Cheers 🍻
Ahh, alot of great things in this video Tjommi 😁. Top quality! It is as much a hint on a ADV trip as the review. I have never thought of TKC 80 as a really great offroad tyre, but for many years one of few options for heavy ADV bikes. These TKC 70 looks a tad less "aggressive" than the E07+ but both seems great for the travel with a few surprises. I have some footage from the last ride where i really tried the limits of the E07+ 😂👍. Let's see what i can do with that. One of the riding buddies just said in the end of the day "Mattias, those tires have really delivered today", i was teh only one at that meeting with "road tyres" 👀😅. Thats how it goes when you are stubborn, cheap and want to try things out...
Hahaha, you know it Tjommi, always a secret message in between the lines 😂 That’s the way we do it. That is actually a really good point. The TKC80 was probably the only knobby tires in the size for large adventure bikes, and made it way into the myth or legend about being the best adventure tire. Never thought of it like that, but it make perfect sense. Hahaha, was that the trip when you had a little bath? 😂 You better make that a video. We all want to see how that tire delivered. Yes, i think the mitas looks more aggressive as well, but there is just something about the logs on the rear on the Rocks that makes it really easy to control (when spinning in corners) and it bites better in some of the loose stuff. Hard to explain. Stubborn is a treat my good friend 👏🏻👏🏻🔥 Cheers
Hi Thomas, nice review...and nice filming and editing too. Sounds like a good tyre...but it's such a personal thing. I have TKC 80's on my XR650R...but very happy with the Pirelli Scorpion Rally str's on the T7. My order of importance is wet/cold grip on the road and ' reasonable ' grip off road. I know they are not great in mud and wet grass, but not many so called adventure tyres are. The Pirelli's do fine on the hard pack trails and little grey lanes i love and are brilliant on the road rain or shine! It's a confidence thing i guess. Cheers, Steve
Hello Stephen… i could not agree more. It always amaze me how much attention something silly as a tire review can get. It seams like the average joe is terrified of buying the “wrong” tire. But the fact is, it is so damn personal, style, bike etc. So you just need to try out a couple for yourself and find what you love and stick to it. I loved the Pirelli on road, but not off-road so much. I have my combo that i love, and i understand that people want to know why and what tires i recommend, but it can still be completely wrong for you or the next person. Cheers mate. Appreciate your comment.
The snow and rain mix is Slush in American. I’m a fan of your photography. I hope we see a lot more videos now that Norway is warming up. What kind of mileage/kilometers were you getting out of the Mitas E-07+? I ask because, in Texas, I do have to go a long way for any significant gravel roads. Ride safe and have fun. 🇺🇸
Good day Darryl 👏🏻🔥 i hope to get out there and ride so much more now when the season has finally started. I get about 10-12.000km out or the mitas rear! I could probably get a little bit more if i go all the way down on the tread pattern 👌🏻
Hey Thomas, I watched attentively your review of these tires. I am on my third different brand since getting my ATAS (Shinko when I purchased, Motoz for my x Canada trip and now Dunlops). I find it difficult to see the difference between the Shinko and the Dunlops. I feel that the TKC look similar to the Dunlops. So far my favorite are the Motoz although they are noisy as f*** on the highway! Thanks for the review and glad to see that you are home safe and sound. Cheers!
Hello Roger. I think that in todays market, tires are pretty much the same except the tread pattern. You can’t hardly miss on choosing any tire in a certain category, but like you say. You need to find the tires that fits your style, type of surface and noise if you think that is bad. I had the anakee 3 on my R1200… those are the most noisy tires i have ridden. Holy crap. Sing me a song every time you hit about 50-60 km/h 😂 Back to work today, back out on the road again tomorrow 🤌🏻 Cheers
Nice review buddy. I still go for metzeler tourance cause of the amount of km you get on it. 8000km are just to little for my commuting at 12500km a year. Tourance do 2 sesons for me in just commuting. And they do very good on gravel roads too. Great video mate. You know to find ☕. Cheers Toby
Thank you mate! That is some serious milage on one set of tires! A rear for me holds up around 10.000 (wich i’m happy with) but if the rocks holds up around 8 i can ride two of them on one tkc80 front! The price is quite Nice as well! Really appreciate it buddy! We have to make it happen this year ☕️🔥👏🏻
@@tshansen metzeler has always been good on the milage for me, even on my racing bikes. The ryfast tunnel is killing my tyres.. If you passing by, give me a pip... Almost always at home😃
Great review.... many thanks! - Do you feel that by choosing the TKC80 up Front you risk a bit of On Road (Cold/Wet) performance ? or is it "good Enough?"
Just the review I was after as I'm. Considering between e07+ & TKC 70 Rocks.. I'm probably 60/40 road/gravel.. The weather you are unsure of is "sleet".
Perfect then... I would just go with the ones I get the best price on. You really can't pick wrong with any of these two tires. Sleet! Hahaha, learn something new every day. Thank you Bucky 👏🏻
in 2021 I did a trip to spain and portugal riding a mix of twisties, tet and act routes. I did it on my heavy r1200gs mounted with a tkc 70 rocks rear. I loved almost everything about the tyre, it did decent on gravel and sand, it did great on twisty roads, it was less noisy and vibrated less on highways than the e-07. The major downsides to me were price and durability, where I am the tkc 70 cost about twice of the e-07 and lasts half as long. I know the e-07 sacrifices some road performance to get more durability but the tkc-70 rocks just melted too quickly for me to buy it again, I just barely got over 6000km out of it.
Yeah, that is just to fast and for mixed use, i think a tire should last around 10.000km. Mine was gone after 8000, but i will try it again to see if i get similar result. If not, I’m sticking to the mitas my self.
Interesting... I had a pair on my BMW r1200GSA last year - Rocks back and TKC70 in front (not 80, like you). I found the noise to be really loud. More than acceptable. And I wore them out much sooner then I expected - with a lot of 'stepping' in the front... In addition I felt the rear 'slipping' when cornering on tarmac, so I didn't feel comfortable with them at all... Since I had to replace them in Montenegro, my only option in the little town were a pair of Metzeler Tourance Next 2. Fantastic road tires, which were OK, since I was going on tarmac all the way home to Norway. I think my next set will be Dunlop TrailMax Mission... Thanks for good videos!
Strange. I ride winter in uk and below freezing on wet tarmac I have never had a slide on the rocks rear. Agree with noise on front and actually find the 80 about as loud if on a slightly different pitch. 80 just gives me a lot more confidence on broken roads and gravel. Will be riding this combo to Nordcapp this summer after visiting my parents in Sweden. I ride a GSA1250 for reference.
I had the tkc70 front on my BMW R1200 GSA back in 2016. And the cupping on that tire was just crazy. So I don't think I would ever ride that tire on a big bike again. The rocks I have never feel slipping, and I find them to be really predictable when spinning in corners on gravel. Interesting to hear that we have so different opinions on this matter, and that is not wrong. It just prove that you really need to test this things out yourself and find the tire that suits your style and bike best. I have tried the Tourance next 2 as well, the front wear out way to fast for my liking, but I think that could have something to do with my suspension leaking on the R1200. They was really stable road tires, but nothing I would prefer on the gravel. The trailmax I have not tried my self, but are on the list of tires I will try If I can get my hands on them. Cheers mate
I had the TKC 70 Rocks in the rear and the TKC 70 in front on my GS 1250. The noise level rose at about 80km/h and went down again at 85. The front was good on tarmac but lousy on deeper gravel etc. No guidance! So I took the advice given by Kyle Bradshaw. TKC80 in front and TKC70 Rocks in the rear. Some noise due to the nobby but very stable on deep gravel terrains. Good enough on dry and wet tarmac roads to bridge between offroad sections. Bad (rear) on wet grass and in mud. Lasted close to 7.000km. However, for TET/ACT I use either Anakee Wild or the new Karoo4. Karoo4 rear performs much better in wet road conditions than the Wild. Off-road both tyres are superb. It is a matter of availability which of the sets I put on. My next long trip will be in the North again. TET Sweden, TET Finland. This summer😊
@@Ray-pc8lm I have not tried the Karoo4 yet, I really hated the Karoo3, probably the most scary tires I have ever ridden on wet tarmac. But I see they have done some changes to the 4
Thanks for the great review, had my TKC70 Rocks fitted yesterday, was torn between the TKC80 front or the 70 but opted for the 70 as most of my travelling will be tarmac with some gravel roads mixed in. One thing I have noticed is that the back tyre wanders a little from side to side causing a slight wobble, did you have the same? Paul. 😎🏍️
Hello Paul. Would love to hear how you experience the 70 front. I found it to be cupping a lot. Funny you mention it, I can't remember the wobble feeling on the tkc70 rocks. but I put on a new rear mitas e-07+ and that felt a little bit wandering on the freeway today. So I do imagine it is a brand new tire feel. It will settle when the tire is ridden in. Cheers
I always wondered what sort of tyres you 50/50 riders use, how well do they perform on a wet road? Because I am going to get into this kind of riding myself eventually. Great video as always mate 👍
Hehe I see you love your T7 WR way more than your previous 890R... How is reliability so far? I tested both, and love the easyness and plush suspension of the WR, its kind but punchy engine... but, man... I've recently tried the new Aprilia Tuareg 660... phiuuu that bike is a real game changer... and my suggestion for your next season's content ;-)
Indeed mate. Absolutely love it 🔥 Reliability so far has been great, no issues at all. There is one recall on the bike, a o-ring that can be damaged if you remove the tank. That will be fixed on the 20.000km service. I have not tired the Tuareg 660 yet, I'm not sure I want to either 😆🙈
Takk for denne testen! Jeg har brukt noen sett av de vanlige TKC70 og tenker å sette på Rocks ved neste bytte. 🙂 (Forøvrig; min kjørestil gjør at det går to fordekk for hvert bakdekk.)
Bare hyggelig Jon 🤩 Jeg gjorde det samme på min R1200 GSA også, den var rimelig hissig på å spise framdekk. Men du har vel oppgradert til Italiensk skjønnhet om man skal tro ryktene?
@@tshansen 😂😂 'noen' må ha vært på fylla og blingsa noe alldeles forferdelig, jeg var på tur med ArcticTiger her om dagen og ble avbildet stående ved min GSA og AT's Multistrada...
Hi, just a question about a possible recommendation for a Trip to Norway. My daughter will follow us this year to Norway with her CB125R from Honda. Final Destination so fare ( Geiranger ) Our plan was to take also some parts of the TET Section 1 and 2. We are well equipped with our GS1250 but Im not sure about the Honda. How difficult will be the TET for that kind of Motorcycle ? What is your opinion on that? Tanks Rene
The Heidenau K60 Scout are the worst tires I've tried on a GS 1200. Stiff, heavy, loud. I drove 500 km and took it off. I need pleasure, not suffering on the road. I think this combination is ideal and I think it will work on the trip from Lithuania to Spain with the new HIMALAYAN 450.
I think you will enjoy this setup a lot. They are really good road tires. I have heard a lot of complains about the same issues with the K60. But I have never tired them myself.
Good, versatile tyres are always a compromise, Thomas. The Heidenau K60 Scout on my old Transalp 600 last longer (about 10.500 km), are better offroad. I ride 50-50 oder 40-60 mostly gravel tracks. I don't know how well the Saxonian tyres (Heidenau) perform in your Norwegian combination of rain and snow (sleet). I've met quite a few people who are perfectly happy with the Conti TKC 70 Rocks (or the Pirelli Scorpion Rally STR). I'm surprised that you still ride the TKC 80 front in wet weather. There are more modern alternatives, but all of them are harder to change on the rims. Cheers from Nürnberg, Günter
That is so true Günter... if a tire is good at one thing, it lack in another. I always try to find the best compromise for my kind of adventure riding. And I'm sorry to say that I travel way more on tarmac then I like, but I always explore a gravel road when I come by them 🤣 I have not tried the K60 my self, but I hear they are really dangerous on wet tarmac? The TKC80 up front is the best front tire I have come across, the 90/90 R21 profile with the small knobs are just perfekt for all conditions. I have yet to find a front that does so well on gravel and on tarmac at the same time. Cheers mate.
@@tshansen The Heidenau K60 Scout is better on the rear than on the front. Especially in mud. Traction from behind, yes, more than expected. But the front is twitchy in such conditions, you're not as planted as on a TKC 80. That's why I'm changing to a bit more aggressive Heidenau Ranger for Romania this summer. Hope that the front performs better in mud. But having said that - I come from a Metzeler Tourance on my Transalp 600, with very rare tipovers offroad ;-) Apart from mud the Heidenau K60 Scout perform very well on my old Honda, also on wet tarmac. Much better than Mitas (which are fairly similar elsewhere). But beware: There are three different tyres called K60 Scout. The narrow one (120/130) with a central groove that I ride. Good traction, good longevity. The middle segment 140/150 without a central groove but with a central strip. Good longevity, but not much traction offroad. And then there is another tyre for the GS heavyweights with a 170 rear. Also not much traction offroad because of rubber in the rear centre for longevity instead of grooves. People tend to talk about the one and only K60 Scout, but there is a difference. TH-camr Frankythereal from Germany loved the K60 Scout on his Africa Twin 750, hated them on his newer Tenere 700. Has to do with the construction/width of the rear tyre. For your T7 you have found your personal best combination, Thomas. Enjoy the season, Günter
@@enduromotorradtouren This is really valuable information for me Günter. I know this is true about the tkc80 front as well, you have two different tires, the narrow good one that fits the 21 inch, and the more like a rear wheel for the lower rims, that is not as good. Yeah, i think there will always be a search for the perfect tires. I love my setup, but also enjoy trying new combinations. Cheers
Tack 👏🏻 Om jeg har tid, prøver jeg å kjøre med eller møte de som er på vei forbi Bergen. Så du får gi meg en lyd når du skal hit så får vi se hva vi kan få til.
Enig. Har du prøvd max mission? Disse er meget utrygge på grov grus, som å kjøre på gelé, sammenlignet med rocks. Skal til Island i sommer, så da må det bli rocks til den turen. (GSA)
Jeg har ikke prøvd Max Mission nei, jeg har alltid vært litt skeptisk til mønsteret i de. Greit å høre dine erfaringer med dekket. Island står høyt på min liste også. Dæven jeg skjønner at jeg ikke har nok tid i året til alt 😂
You have been riding the Dunlop Trailmax Raid now, how do you find them vs. the Rock rear and tkc80 front? I'm about to buy new tires for my old NX650 (a lot lighter than the T7), doing mostly the same as you, some tarmac, some gravel and a single track now and then...
My impression is that they perform better on road! On gravel i have not tried them enough to do a really good comparison, but they feel really good the little i have ridden them! You can’t go wrong with either choice! Get the cheapest ones or be crazy and try the newest tech 👏🏻🔥
No, I have not... I tried a set of dunlop back when I was riding RR bikes, and they burned away in under half the milage as anything else on the market. So I have never dared to try it again. But I should. I have them on my list if I can get my hands on them for a fair price .
@@tshansen ok yes i have seen that the trailmax should have great mileage The Old goat have a couble of metzler gravel tires on when o got it, after 2500km on Road they where gone , used then the Heidenau k60 instead , the first set 9000 km and the second set 50% after 4500km On the new goat is a set of mitas e7+ with 6000km on it , Think about 50% left so next season have to find new tires, i have not found any Scandinavian review off the trailmax , as you know as a dane most of the km are on hard Road not much gravel here, so need a pair of tires with great mileage on Road and some grip on gravel/dirt Road when i am lucky to find some or are a weekend in Sweden , looks better on the bike to
I have a 70 Rocks rear and a TKC70 front, I feel maybe the TKC80 front maybe a better option especially for the gritty roads around the UK countryside as the are less likely to slip out on gravel. What’s your experience of the TKC80 front on the road and in wet conditions. Is there a lot of road noise and are they slippery in the wet?
Well, i have been riding with the tkc80 front for many years now, and i run them in all possible “Norwegian” conditions without a slip or any bad feeling. It is absolutely the best road/gravel tire i have tested. And they are really cheap here in Norway compared to other brands. Cheers
Hello mate, that is perfectly fine, i have the black widdow exhaust on my bike, much cheaper option than most other. And like you say, it looks the same. And it sounds amazing 👏🏻
@@tshansen Thank you,! And is the Tkc 80 on front not too noisy on asphalt / tarmac? I hesitate between Tkc 70 and 80 ( front ), the tkc 80 looks better, but I'm affraid that is very noisy on highway with 150 km/h... what is your opinion? what would be you choice (I'm riding 80-90% on highway and in the city)
@@imreblatt8656 with so much tarmac you will probably find the tkc70 more stable and better ride performance on road. I don’t find them to be noisy at all, but this is highly individual
8000 km is not good. I have run several E07 rear and 1x E07+ rear. I get: > 15000 km with E07 approx. 12000 km with E07+ Trying the E07+ again next. /Chrisss
I don't think 8000 is that bad when you think how much tarmac I have ridden with them (long transport to get to gravel) But I will try a couple of more ones before I conclude on the range. I just put on a new e-07+ my self, I got some of them earlier for a really nice price 1200,- Nok for a rear tire is gold! But now the prices has gone up like crazy over here. So you are lucky to get a rear tire under 2000,-
Problem with tires that hold so long is that the rubber is hard (more plastic og silica and other stuff) ... Hard rubber is not good on cold and wet tarmac. Specially not on Norwegian twisty coast roads with lot of salt on them...
Yeah, i see that this is common in many brands, they don’t have some sizes but a lot in other sizes. Sizes i have never heard of on a motorcycle they have, but not in others 😆
Well, it is free to watch or don’t watch! Thank you for taking the time to give me a heads up on how i should make my videos better for the future! Appreciate it 👏🏻🎥
There are tyre reviews and then there are your tyre reviews. The information you provide is very detailed but what makes your videos head and shoulders above some other, similar content is the phenomenal camera work editing, colour grading and breath-taking locations!
Ooohhh ☺️ thank you so much Matt…. I really appreciate you telling me this. I always try to make my videos as good as i can, and like to show real life examples instead of just standing with a tire in my hand. Really glad you liked it. Cheers
Perfectly said Sir. The video's that Thomas produces are always top notch, and a pleasure to watch. His cabin is a wonderful place to unwind too. Not that I've ever been there. Norway is just so beautiful. 🏍🏍
Well Said, so agree😊👍
Thanks for making the video Thomas. The English word is sleet - sounds the same. After trying every tire out there, from Alaskan back roads, British Columbia Backroads, highways, and rain, to Mexican sand, I'm now married to Motoz Adventure for durability, and overall traction. I don't think any one tire is perfect however, all have limitations. I used TKC 80 (on the front) on my last Baja tour spending a week in soft Mexican sand - it did OK, nothing remarkable. It's just what is the best balance for you as the rider. I know professional Baja racers and trainers that like Kenda Big Blocks on their ADV bikes ( Jimmy Lewis - KTM 1090R/ 1190R) - I've never tried them but know they are pretty soft compounds. With Jimmy, I'm sure he could ride with bald tires more effectively than 99% of riders anyway, so not sure how much tires play into his selection, besides sponsors....So there you go.
Appreciate it Shayne. Sleet is a word I have never used before so I'm learning new stuff every day 👏🏻 Thank you. I had the Motoz Adventure on my 690 back a some years ago, I should probably try them again on this bigger bike. They can be a little bit hard to come by here in Norway, and the price is normally higher than the other tires I get. And as you say, there is no perfect tire, there is just rubber between the surface and the rider that suits you or not. Cheers mate.
Hello Thomas! I have TKC70 Rocks now. I can't say a bad word about them. Lasted 10k km with almost always 2up + luggage. Great tyres! Gonna change them on friday because it's like 1mm in center left 🤣
Great video as always and really good review 😀
Hello my friend, I saw you had the same rear tire as me when we meet. Really nice to finally meet you in person and shake hands. Next time we must share more stories and maybe a coffee or beer 🔥 Cheers
Trailmax Mission is the tire.
It will easily more than double your mileage.
I have 12000km on my Super T with 60% 2up.
Still only worn 30% and front much less wear. I can’t believe the tire wear and sticks great in twisties
Thanks for the excellent review again Thomas! Just mounted the Mitas E07+ upon your recommendation previously, will try this one next so that I can also compare the 2. Have a great riding weekend!
You are welcome Tim. I just put on a new Mitas e-07+ rear my self yesterday. But i have one tkc70 rocks and tkc80 in back order at my local dealer. Cheers
Sleet is the word for rain/snow. Cheers for the review. I run the exact same combo on my heavy adventure bike and love it.
Sleet... haha, there you go! I don't think I have ever used that word. Glad to learn it as I'm beginning to be old man 🤣 How are them holding up on the big heavy adventure bike? I know the TKC80 has a different tread pattern on the smaller front. Cheers
@@tshansen yeah the rear wears out about 5k miles. Front 70 got real bad cupping as you said elsewhere. It’s my first 80 front so will see how long it lasts. Hoping about the same as rear 🤞
Thomas, nice to see you posting up again. Hope you are ready for summer adventure. Cheers Brapp Brapp!
Hello James, nice to see you hare again as well. Well, i have way to many plans, but i hope that i manage to do some of them before season is ending. Will make the best out of every free period i got 😆 Cheers
You can not say it is the best whithout having tested Anakee Wild. i havent tested TKC myself though, but I will. Great video.
It is one of the best I have tired, no problems stating that 😊 If it is the best of all tires? That is impossible to say, because it comes into personal preference, like music, that is the best music. All depends on the rider 👍🏻 Thank you. Cheers
Thanks for sharing your experiences. Got this tyre setup on my Tiger 900 after seeing your video, and I am super happy with the result :)
Really glad to hear that mate 👏🏻🔥 i’m putting on a new one myself when my rear is worn out! 👏🏻
Thanks for the review! Absolutely the best type of review when they are based on real life experiences and after long time usage!!! 👍
Thank you Hestad 🤩👏🏻 I have a hard time making these reviews, because I’m not sure how much info i should add etc. Because everyone just seam to read out of a manual when they do reviews. I rather do it like this and show to my experience and let people decide if they think it is helpful or not. Cheers 👏🏻
Thank you for the review 👍.
I’m going to try out that set up with the new bike.
I had TKC80 front and rear on my XT660Z and did well on TET routes in Netherlands and Belgium.
Looking for a T7 now and want to travel further while doing TET in other country’s.
Thanks again 😎👌💨
@@Cees1984 you are welcome mate, glad you liked it and found it informative.
I just spent the weekend at the Skog event. Two of my mates survived on TCK 70 Rocks, while I had 07+. Sufficient in dry gravel and easy single track. Btw, I had 4 perfect nights in my new tent, which your last video convinced me to finally buy.
I messed up SKOG this year, I thought it was this weekend, and when I met up with Mattias and he told me it was the weekend I was there I would have come, at least to say hello to some friends. Yeah, that is my exact experience as well. A great adv tire that holds up great on the gravel and single tracks! 👏🏻 You bought the Reinsfjell yes? Congrats mate. Really glad you enjoyed it. Cheers 🍻
Ahh, alot of great things in this video Tjommi 😁. Top quality! It is as much a hint on a ADV trip as the review. I have never thought of TKC 80 as a really great offroad tyre, but for many years one of few options for heavy ADV bikes. These TKC 70 looks a tad less "aggressive" than the E07+ but both seems great for the travel with a few surprises. I have some footage from the last ride where i really tried the limits of the E07+ 😂👍. Let's see what i can do with that. One of the riding buddies just said in the end of the day "Mattias, those tires have really delivered today", i was teh only one at that meeting with "road tyres" 👀😅. Thats how it goes when you are stubborn, cheap and want to try things out...
Hahaha, you know it Tjommi, always a secret message in between the lines 😂 That’s the way we do it. That is actually a really good point. The TKC80 was probably the only knobby tires in the size for large adventure bikes, and made it way into the myth or legend about being the best adventure tire. Never thought of it like that, but it make perfect sense. Hahaha, was that the trip when you had a little bath? 😂 You better make that a video. We all want to see how that tire delivered. Yes, i think the mitas looks more aggressive as well, but there is just something about the logs on the rear on the Rocks that makes it really easy to control (when spinning in corners) and it bites better in some of the loose stuff. Hard to explain. Stubborn is a treat my good friend 👏🏻👏🏻🔥 Cheers
Hi Thomas, nice review...and nice filming and editing too. Sounds like a good tyre...but it's such a personal thing. I have TKC 80's on my XR650R...but very happy with the Pirelli Scorpion Rally str's on the T7. My order of importance is wet/cold grip on the road and ' reasonable ' grip off road. I know they are not great in mud and wet grass, but not many so called adventure tyres are. The Pirelli's do fine on the hard pack trails and little grey lanes i love and are brilliant on the road rain or shine! It's a confidence thing i guess. Cheers, Steve
Hello Stephen… i could not agree more. It always amaze me how much attention something silly as a tire review can get. It seams like the average joe is terrified of buying the “wrong” tire. But the fact is, it is so damn personal, style, bike etc. So you just need to try out a couple for yourself and find what you love and stick to it. I loved the Pirelli on road, but not off-road so much. I have my combo that i love, and i understand that people want to know why and what tires i recommend, but it can still be completely wrong for you or the next person. Cheers mate. Appreciate your comment.
The snow and rain mix is Slush in American.
I’m a fan of your photography. I hope we see a lot more videos now that Norway is warming up.
What kind of mileage/kilometers were you getting out of the Mitas E-07+? I ask because, in Texas, I do have to go a long way for any significant gravel roads. Ride safe and have fun. 🇺🇸
Good day Darryl 👏🏻🔥 i hope to get out there and ride so much more now when the season has finally started. I get about 10-12.000km out or the mitas rear! I could probably get a little bit more if i go all the way down on the tread pattern 👌🏻
Okay ‘‘twas an excellent review sir 🥰 good job 👍
Thank you sir, appreciate the feedback. Really glad you liked it. Cheers ☕️
Hey Thomas, I watched attentively your review of these tires. I am on my third different brand since getting my ATAS (Shinko when I purchased, Motoz for my x Canada trip and now Dunlops). I find it difficult to see the difference between the Shinko and the Dunlops. I feel that the TKC look similar to the Dunlops. So far my favorite are the Motoz although they are noisy as f*** on the highway! Thanks for the review and glad to see that you are home safe and sound. Cheers!
Hello Roger. I think that in todays market, tires are pretty much the same except the tread pattern. You can’t hardly miss on choosing any tire in a certain category, but like you say. You need to find the tires that fits your style, type of surface and noise if you think that is bad. I had the anakee 3 on my R1200… those are the most noisy tires i have ridden. Holy crap. Sing me a song every time you hit about 50-60 km/h 😂 Back to work today, back out on the road again tomorrow 🤌🏻 Cheers
Nice review buddy. I still go for metzeler tourance cause of the amount of km you get on it. 8000km are just to little for my commuting at 12500km a year. Tourance do 2 sesons for me in just commuting. And they do very good on gravel roads too.
Great video mate. You know to find ☕. Cheers Toby
Thank you mate! That is some serious milage on one set of tires! A rear for me holds up around 10.000 (wich i’m happy with) but if the rocks holds up around 8 i can ride two of them on one tkc80 front! The price is quite Nice as well! Really appreciate it buddy! We have to make it happen this year ☕️🔥👏🏻
@@tshansen metzeler has always been good on the milage for me, even on my racing bikes. The ryfast tunnel is killing my tyres..
If you passing by, give me a pip... Almost always at home😃
Hi Thomas, nice review. Cheers!
Thank you Vitor. Appreciate it mate. Cheers
Great review.... many thanks! - Do you feel that by choosing the TKC80 up Front you risk a bit of On Road (Cold/Wet) performance ? or is it "good Enough?"
Not at all mate, they handle really good on road, both in wet and cold.
performs great in sleet, between rain and snow.💧🏍❄
Thank you my good man 👏🏻 Cheers
Just the review I was after as I'm. Considering between e07+ & TKC 70 Rocks.. I'm probably 60/40 road/gravel..
The weather you are unsure of is "sleet".
Perfect then... I would just go with the ones I get the best price on. You really can't pick wrong with any of these two tires. Sleet! Hahaha, learn something new every day. Thank you Bucky 👏🏻
in 2021 I did a trip to spain and portugal riding a mix of twisties, tet and act routes. I did it on my heavy r1200gs mounted with a tkc 70 rocks rear. I loved almost everything about the tyre, it did decent on gravel and sand, it did great on twisty roads, it was less noisy and vibrated less on highways than the e-07. The major downsides to me were price and durability, where I am the tkc 70 cost about twice of the e-07 and lasts half as long. I know the e-07 sacrifices some road performance to get more durability but the tkc-70 rocks just melted too quickly for me to buy it again, I just barely got over 6000km out of it.
Yeah, that is just to fast and for mixed use, i think a tire should last around 10.000km. Mine was gone after 8000, but i will try it again to see if i get similar result. If not, I’m sticking to the mitas my self.
Interesting... I had a pair on my BMW r1200GSA last year - Rocks back and TKC70 in front (not 80, like you). I found the noise to be really loud. More than acceptable. And I wore them out much sooner then I expected - with a lot of 'stepping' in the front... In addition I felt the rear 'slipping' when cornering on tarmac, so I didn't feel comfortable with them at all...
Since I had to replace them in Montenegro, my only option in the little town were a pair of Metzeler Tourance Next 2. Fantastic road tires, which were OK, since I was going on tarmac all the way home to Norway. I think my next set will be Dunlop TrailMax Mission... Thanks for good videos!
Strange. I ride winter in uk and below freezing on wet tarmac I have never had a slide on the rocks rear. Agree with noise on front and actually find the 80 about as loud if on a slightly different pitch. 80 just gives me a lot more confidence on broken roads and gravel. Will be riding this combo to Nordcapp this summer after visiting my parents in Sweden. I ride a GSA1250 for reference.
I had the tkc70 front on my BMW R1200 GSA back in 2016. And the cupping on that tire was just crazy. So I don't think I would ever ride that tire on a big bike again. The rocks I have never feel slipping, and I find them to be really predictable when spinning in corners on gravel. Interesting to hear that we have so different opinions on this matter, and that is not wrong. It just prove that you really need to test this things out yourself and find the tire that suits your style and bike best. I have tried the Tourance next 2 as well, the front wear out way to fast for my liking, but I think that could have something to do with my suspension leaking on the R1200. They was really stable road tires, but nothing I would prefer on the gravel. The trailmax I have not tried my self, but are on the list of tires I will try If I can get my hands on them. Cheers mate
I had the TKC 70 Rocks in the rear and the TKC 70 in front on my GS 1250. The noise level rose at about 80km/h and went down again at 85. The front was good on tarmac but lousy on deeper gravel etc. No guidance! So I took the advice given by Kyle Bradshaw. TKC80 in front and TKC70 Rocks in the rear. Some noise due to the nobby but very stable on deep gravel terrains. Good enough on dry and wet tarmac roads to bridge between offroad sections. Bad (rear) on wet grass and in mud. Lasted close to 7.000km. However, for TET/ACT I use either Anakee Wild or the new Karoo4. Karoo4 rear performs much better in wet road conditions than the Wild. Off-road both tyres are superb. It is a matter of availability which of the sets I put on. My next long trip will be in the North again. TET Sweden, TET Finland. This summer😊
@@Ray-pc8lm I have not tried the Karoo4 yet, I really hated the Karoo3, probably the most scary tires I have ever ridden on wet tarmac. But I see they have done some changes to the 4
The word you're looking for is sleet (when it's in the air) and slush (when it's on the ground)!
Thank you, sleet in the air and slush on the ground. Slush i have heard before, but never used that much 😂 Cheers
Nice review. Are they noisy at all on the road?
No, not at all!
Tack för att du gör det här, 👌
Takk for at du tar deg tid til å se, ikke minst kommentere 👏🏻
Thanks for the great review, had my TKC70 Rocks fitted yesterday, was torn between the TKC80 front or the 70 but opted for the 70 as most of my travelling will be tarmac with some gravel roads mixed in. One thing I have noticed is that the back tyre wanders a little from side to side causing a slight wobble, did you have the same? Paul. 😎🏍️
Hello Paul. Would love to hear how you experience the 70 front. I found it to be cupping a lot. Funny you mention it, I can't remember the wobble feeling on the tkc70 rocks. but I put on a new rear mitas e-07+ and that felt a little bit wandering on the freeway today. So I do imagine it is a brand new tire feel. It will settle when the tire is ridden in. Cheers
In regards to the wet, snowy word in English you're looking for - in Alaska, we call it "Sleet" - so probably the same thing?
Yeah, I do understand now that it's called sleet and slush. So it is probably the same term for different state of it. Cheers
I always wondered what sort of tyres you 50/50 riders use, how well do they perform on a wet road? Because I am going to get into this kind of riding myself eventually. Great video as always mate 👍
The tic 70 rocks perform really great on wet roads. I can highly recommend them as a good adventure tire. Cheers
Hehe I see you love your T7 WR way more than your previous 890R... How is reliability so far? I tested both, and love the easyness and plush suspension of the WR, its kind but punchy engine... but, man... I've recently tried the new Aprilia Tuareg 660... phiuuu that bike is a real game changer... and my suggestion for your next season's content ;-)
Indeed mate. Absolutely love it 🔥 Reliability so far has been great, no issues at all. There is one recall on the bike, a o-ring that can be damaged if you remove the tank. That will be fixed on the 20.000km service. I have not tired the Tuareg 660 yet, I'm not sure I want to either 😆🙈
Takk for denne testen! Jeg har brukt noen sett av de vanlige TKC70 og tenker å sette på Rocks ved neste bytte. 🙂 (Forøvrig; min kjørestil gjør at det går to fordekk for hvert bakdekk.)
Bare hyggelig Jon 🤩 Jeg gjorde det samme på min R1200 GSA også, den var rimelig hissig på å spise framdekk. Men du har vel oppgradert til Italiensk skjønnhet om man skal tro ryktene?
@@tshansen ??? hva sier ryktene?
@@tubejon Ducati 🔥
@@tshansen 😂😂 'noen' må ha vært på fylla og blingsa noe alldeles forferdelig, jeg var på tur med ArcticTiger her om dagen og ble avbildet stående ved min GSA og AT's Multistrada...
@@tubejon Hahaha, det er sikkert alt for mye multelikør 🙈 Så du har GSA enda altså, det er faktisk veldig betryggende å høre 🍻
Word for mixture rain and snow is SLEET
Aaahhh, Thank you sir! Really appreciate that! I never heard that Word i think 👀🙈
Very fantastic
Thank you 👏🏻
Hi, just a question about a possible recommendation for a Trip to Norway. My daughter will follow us this year to Norway with her CB125R from Honda. Final Destination so fare ( Geiranger ) Our plan was to take also some parts of the TET Section 1 and 2. We are well equipped with our GS1250 but Im not sure about the Honda. How difficult will be the TET for that kind of Motorcycle ? What is your opinion on that?
Tanks Rene
Hello mate... the 125 on Norwegian gravel roads are no problem at all. it is only easy gravel and no technical stuff at all. You will mange fine 👏🏻
The Heidenau K60 Scout are the worst tires I've tried on a GS 1200. Stiff, heavy, loud. I drove 500 km and took it off. I need pleasure, not suffering on the road.
I think this combination is ideal and I think it will work on the trip from Lithuania to Spain with the new HIMALAYAN 450.
I think you will enjoy this setup a lot. They are really good road tires. I have heard a lot of complains about the same issues with the K60. But I have never tired them myself.
Good, versatile tyres are always a compromise, Thomas. The Heidenau K60 Scout on my old Transalp 600 last longer (about 10.500 km), are better offroad. I ride 50-50 oder 40-60 mostly gravel tracks. I don't know how well the Saxonian tyres (Heidenau) perform in your Norwegian combination of rain and snow (sleet). I've met quite a few people who are perfectly happy with the Conti TKC 70 Rocks (or the Pirelli Scorpion Rally STR). I'm surprised that you still ride the TKC 80 front in wet weather. There are more modern alternatives, but all of them are harder to change on the rims. Cheers from Nürnberg, Günter
That is so true Günter... if a tire is good at one thing, it lack in another. I always try to find the best compromise for my kind of adventure riding. And I'm sorry to say that I travel way more on tarmac then I like, but I always explore a gravel road when I come by them 🤣 I have not tried the K60 my self, but I hear they are really dangerous on wet tarmac? The TKC80 up front is the best front tire I have come across, the 90/90 R21 profile with the small knobs are just perfekt for all conditions. I have yet to find a front that does so well on gravel and on tarmac at the same time. Cheers mate.
@@tshansen The Heidenau K60 Scout is better on the rear than on the front. Especially in mud. Traction from behind, yes, more than expected. But the front is twitchy in such conditions, you're not as planted as on a TKC 80. That's why I'm changing to a bit more aggressive Heidenau Ranger for Romania this summer. Hope that the front performs better in mud. But having said that - I come from a Metzeler Tourance on my Transalp 600, with very rare tipovers offroad ;-) Apart from mud the Heidenau K60 Scout perform very well on my old Honda, also on wet tarmac. Much better than Mitas (which are fairly similar elsewhere). But beware: There are three different tyres called K60 Scout. The narrow one (120/130) with a central groove that I ride. Good traction, good longevity. The middle segment 140/150 without a central groove but with a central strip. Good longevity, but not much traction offroad. And then there is another tyre for the GS heavyweights with a 170 rear. Also not much traction offroad because of rubber in the rear centre for longevity instead of grooves. People tend to talk about the one and only K60 Scout, but there is a difference. TH-camr Frankythereal from Germany loved the K60 Scout on his Africa Twin 750, hated them on his newer Tenere 700. Has to do with the construction/width of the rear tyre. For your T7 you have found your personal best combination, Thomas. Enjoy the season, Günter
@@enduromotorradtouren This is really valuable information for me Günter. I know this is true about the tkc80 front as well, you have two different tires, the narrow good one that fits the 21 inch, and the more like a rear wheel for the lower rims, that is not as good. Yeah, i think there will always be a search for the perfect tires. I love my setup, but also enjoy trying new combinations. Cheers
@@tshansen There never is a perfect tyre match. Only one that's tolerable ;-)
Du gör fina videor 😊 Vi kankse kan köra ihop någon gång? Jag planerar en Norge-tur någon gång nästa sommar (typ Vestlandet).
Tack 👏🏻 Om jeg har tid, prøver jeg å kjøre med eller møte de som er på vei forbi Bergen. Så du får gi meg en lyd når du skal hit så får vi se hva vi kan få til.
Enig. Har du prøvd max mission? Disse er meget utrygge på grov grus, som å kjøre på gelé, sammenlignet med rocks. Skal til Island i sommer, så da må det bli rocks til den turen. (GSA)
Jeg har ikke prøvd Max Mission nei, jeg har alltid vært litt skeptisk til mønsteret i de. Greit å høre dine erfaringer med dekket. Island står høyt på min liste også. Dæven jeg skjønner at jeg ikke har nok tid i året til alt 😂
You have been riding the Dunlop Trailmax Raid now, how do you find them vs. the Rock rear and tkc80 front?
I'm about to buy new tires for my old NX650 (a lot lighter than the T7), doing mostly the same as you, some tarmac, some gravel and a single track now and then...
My impression is that they perform better on road! On gravel i have not tried them enough to do a really good comparison, but they feel really good the little i have ridden them! You can’t go wrong with either choice! Get the cheapest ones or be crazy and try the newest tech 👏🏻🔥
@@tshansen - Takker og bukker 😇
Hmm Thomas have you ever testet the trailmax mission ??
No, I have not... I tried a set of dunlop back when I was riding RR bikes, and they burned away in under half the milage as anything else on the market. So I have never dared to try it again. But I should. I have them on my list if I can get my hands on them for a fair price .
@@tshansen ok yes i have seen that the trailmax should have great mileage
The Old goat have a couble of metzler gravel tires on when o got it, after 2500km on Road they where gone , used then the Heidenau k60 instead , the first set 9000 km and the second set 50% after 4500km
On the new goat is a set of mitas e7+ with 6000km on it , Think about 50% left so next season have to find new tires, i have not found any Scandinavian review off the trailmax , as you know as a dane most of the km are on hard Road not much gravel here, so need a pair of tires with great mileage on Road and some grip on gravel/dirt Road when i am lucky to find some or are a weekend in Sweden , looks better on the bike to
Great, but how does these compare to oem tenere tires: Pirelli Scorpion Rally Str?
I find them to be much better on gravel than the OEM! On road they are not that far apart! But i really did not like the scoepions on gravel 👀
I have a 70 Rocks rear and a TKC70 front, I feel maybe the TKC80 front maybe a better option especially for the gritty roads around the UK countryside as the are less likely to slip out on gravel. What’s your experience of the TKC80 front on the road and in wet conditions. Is there a lot of road noise and are they slippery in the wet?
Well, i have been riding with the tkc80 front for many years now, and i run them in all possible “Norwegian” conditions without a slip or any bad feeling. It is absolutely the best road/gravel tire i have tested. And they are really cheap here in Norway compared to other brands. Cheers
And what do you think of the tkc rock rear tire on the road? do you hear a lot of noise because of the opening of the tears in the rubber?
I think the road performance is where this tire shines, and no! For me there is no noise at all 🔥
Where I live this tire is twice the price of the Shinko 805.
How is the shinko performance
We call it slush. That in between melted and packed or fresh snow.
I hear from many that it’s called Sleet in the English language 😂 But i guess you call it slush when it’s on the ground?
Final conclusiones are: this one or mitas? And why if they cost the same?
Since i just ordered a new TCK 70 Rocks rear, i would say the Rocks! They are just more fun to ride on tarmac 🤩🔥
Do you regret changing to the Yamaha? Do you miss the KTM at all? Wich in your opinion is the better bike?
Not for one second! I do miss the extra power on the freeway sometimes when overtaking cars etc! But 95% of my riding i enjoy the tenere more 👏🏻🔥
Hey not a tire question. But what exhaust are u using. Kinda looks leo v but I can't not tell
Hello mate, that is perfectly fine, i have the black widdow exhaust on my bike, much cheaper option than most other. And like you say, it looks the same. And it sounds amazing 👏🏻
Muito legal o vídeo 👏👏👍👍👊👊😄😄🇧🇷🇧🇷
Thank you Edmar. Glad you liked it 👏🏻
Hi, which is the best between these or the pirelli scorpion rally str?
Depends on where you are using them? On tarmac? Gravel?
@@tshansen thx so much for the replay 70% street 30% grave light off road
how is your tenere? better than ktm?
It is fantastic, but if it's better depends on your needs I think. and if you just rate it from quality, it is way better 🤪
Fellow ADV riders. If your curious what colour Crocs Thomas has on please go to 4:40 (But watch the excellent review first).
Hahaha... I hate to say it, but I have them In all colours 🤣😆 could you go on an adventure without crocs? I think no uncle 👏🏻
TKC 70 Rocks(rear) is noisy on highway? how many speed from (km/h)? Thank you!
No, the rocks is not noisy at all in my opinion! I have not ridden them faster than 150km/h
@@tshansen Thank you,! And is the Tkc 80 on front not too noisy on asphalt / tarmac? I hesitate between Tkc 70 and 80 ( front ), the tkc 80 looks better, but I'm affraid that is very noisy on highway with 150 km/h... what is your opinion? what would be you choice (I'm riding 80-90% on highway and in the city)
@@imreblatt8656 with so much tarmac you will probably find the tkc70 more stable and better ride performance on road. I don’t find them to be noisy at all, but this is highly individual
8000 km is not good.
I have run several E07 rear and 1x E07+ rear.
I get:
> 15000 km with E07
approx. 12000 km with E07+
Trying the E07+ again next.
/Chrisss
I don't think 8000 is that bad when you think how much tarmac I have ridden with them (long transport to get to gravel) But I will try a couple of more ones before I conclude on the range. I just put on a new e-07+ my self, I got some of them earlier for a really nice price 1200,- Nok for a rear tire is gold! But now the prices has gone up like crazy over here. So you are lucky to get a rear tire under 2000,-
Problem with tires that hold so long is that the rubber is hard (more plastic og silica and other stuff) ...
Hard rubber is not good on cold and wet tarmac. Specially not on Norwegian twisty coast roads with lot of salt on them...
What happened
with your Instagram?
Been gone since January. Had to delete it, found myself scrolling those damn reels for hours without even knowing. Sorry 🙈
@@tshansen ok i´ll folow you here anyway
@@gustavovallejo19 Thank you mate! 👏🏻🔥 appreciate that
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Limited sizes to choose from, especially if you are on a 18" .rear. Bye bye Continental..
Yeah, i see that this is common in many brands, they don’t have some sizes but a lot in other sizes. Sizes i have never heard of on a motorcycle they have, but not in others 😆
Enough of the cringe music. Im not watching anymore
Well, it is free to watch or don’t watch! Thank you for taking the time to give me a heads up on how i should make my videos better for the future! Appreciate it 👏🏻🎥
km????
8000 km when i changed it